What is your thoughts on it Cinemaphile
Also SBN3 thread
My thoughts is it’s gonna be the same level as the boondocks i don’t know why but it reminds me of the boondocks
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Class of 09 the anime
What is your thoughts on it Cinemaphile
Also SBN3 thread
My thoughts is it’s gonna be the same level as the boondocks i don’t know why but it reminds me of the boondocks
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Unfunny
Why would I want to watch unattractive chick?
This should be picked up and turned into a show. Also the voice actors should all marry me.
I hope it gets picked up by adult swim.
It’d be nice to have something in the realm of boondocks back on the block (or at least adult animation that isn’t generic or ugly)
It's going to crash and burn because the creator has no idea what he's doing.
Soulbro is insufferable. Dude keeps insulting nerds who enjoy anime yet keeps making anime parodies.
>The creator of '09 made another thread
Frick off.
Soulbro is a coward that won't do anything that draws public ire. He'll only go after societally agreed upon punching bags like men, nerd and paedophiles.
he's a nerd himself. he just thinks that nerds should lighten up, broaden their surroundings, and be self-aware because it will improve their craft
Platitudes aside. Soulbro has a very obvious outsider's opinion on nerd culture and it's especially obvious with visual novels. Class of '09 is billed as the anti-visual novel for people who don't like visual novels. But this is based solely on the fact that you play an abrasive protagonist that turns down all of her potential suitors. Sometime that has been common to visual novels for so long that its been parodied in anime like Gekkan Shoujo. Class of '09 really only got popular because vtuber tryhards like pipkin pippa played it.
so he's a normie
>nerds
If you mean Jeffrey he's both is a sex pest and probably autistic. Not all anime fans are like that. Some are just pedophiles, others like fiction and not live action trash, others want to animate themselves.
Fell into the irony trap of fitting in by trying to be countercultural as safely as possible, many such cases.
>Dude keeps insulting nerds who enjoy anime yet keeps making anime parodies
What makes someone do this? Can't they just ignore anime?
>le parody of anime
typical narcissistic west shit i guess
imagine if some chinks who listened 15 well known hip hop albums start doing le deconstruction of hip hop
Isn’t that just panty and stocking
no
>some chinks who listened 15 well known hip hop albums start doing le deconstruction of hip hop
You're giving these people too much credit. I doubt any of them have played a single actual VN in their entire life.
I like that in the re up you can turn a lesbian straight.
It's funny as frick and I love it. Since I was in Middle School in 2009, I remember all this very well. This is a game for old people like me, you see.
the only content creator that's consistently funny to me
also the how to be a voice actor series is really good
It's also some of the most unnatural dialogue ever written.
objectively wrong
You mean right.
His humor always just been random nonstop 2000's/90's references and everyone being an butthole.
Kino
Girls don't talk like this, especially in 09.
I don't know how girls talk, so I think it's fine.
I'll go even further and say humans don't talk like this.
Girls do in fact talk and act like this. Not in front of you though
And were you born with a vegana to confirm this? No? So shut it.
It's so cringe when westerners say that they "made" an anime, like did disney make an aeni with big city greens since it was animated in south korea?
I just skipped to 3 random scenes from a playthrough of this shit and each one made me want to gouge out my eyes and ears.
i hope it succeeds
Feels like it was written by the same people that made videogame webcomics with the girl gamer you know the ones.
I used to like SouBro until I realized his "too cool for you" attitude wasn't even remotely a bit and that he wasn't an ounce more creative or competent than the people he was making fun of.
The Best Gamers/LoudHouse did the "nerds too cool for nerd culture" thing better and were able to still be funny and insightful without that gimmick. SouBro just couldn't play it loud enough.
Erin Dies Alone?
>tranime
Betcha 9/10 the person who made this is either a troony or a fat slob.
I will never understand people who get butthurt over an artstyle. Is it just sour grapes?
It's not the artstyle. It's the story & the fact all the characters are female. It's called tranime because it features nothing but female characters in slice of life setting, which is what troony weebs mostly watch.
It's called tranime because braindead election tourists like you invaded.
Election tourists came in 2016, moron. There was no notable influx during 2020.
Is that the best retort you could come up with, newbie? Take your dumb anti anime psyops and frick off.
2016 was the year the election tourists came to the site since the r/TheDonald got purged by the Reddit mods, but that was only one specific group of Redditors. 2020 on the other hand was when a massive influx of Reddit & Twitter tourists started flooding the site, since Reddit went full USSR on it's users. Even subreddits that weren't "right-wing" got purged by mods. Also it was during this time when mootkun stepped down as an admin of Cinemaphile & a huge influx of Discord /leftypol/ trannies took over janitor positions. Your graph actually represents the janny troony infiltration of the site. Cinemaphile & /misc/ outed those jannies as being demented otaku jannies. Hence where the term "tranime" came from.
Sounds like conspiracy shit. I've seen no difference in the mods behavior pre or post 2020. They were always gays.
>mootkun stepped down as an admin
No one tell him who became head admin of this site since and what their politics and agenda are.
Hint: It's not Hiro dumbass.
Is it rapeape?
Yeah.
Cinemaphile has gained a /misc/ite trying to bastardize the site ever since.
Moot sold the site in 2015. Discord was like 3 months old. You're every kinda tard.
I have nothing else to say, just read my name tard.
>costs 250k for a 30 min ep
So why is most anime full of filler level garbage and bad writing? the animation is the expensive part. for that money you would be better off paying a better writer more money so you can pack more punch with half as many episodes. does japan not have accountants?
looks pretty but i wouldn't pay to watch it
This isn't even made by Japan.
that wasn't what i said
Oh God the pain.
This is that game with the mall cop who shoots her, right? Thats the only thing I know about it.
Great scene, though.
>Anime
>Western
This needs to stop. I fricking hate you homosexuals so fricking much.
>2009
>Xanax
What?
>Cartoon girls
>But drugs and saying FRICK
Didn't notice I step into a time-machine back to 2014,
Next thing you'll tell me Ironic Otaku Rapping is a thing.
>dude
>DUDE
>what if we like, made a parody of VNs
>but not just any VNs
>specifically of dating sims
>those pieces of crap only like 10 weirdos outside of japan have even touched
>and it'll be incredibly RAUNCHY and SUBVERSIVE of all their cliches that our audience is completely unfamiliar with
>oh, and it'll be incredibly popular with terminally online middle schoolers for some fricking reason
how many times has this happened now? from hatoful boyfriend and KFC to doki doki literature club... it's all so tiresome.
>KFC
What?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1121910/I_Love_You_Colonel_Sanders_A_Finger_Lickin_Good_Dating_Simulator/
>KFC
Attempt to ride the
>Brand Memes!
wave.
>Doki Doki
Literally a inferior copy of a VN that came years before. But obviously normalhomosexuals don't know about it so LE MONIKA gets hyped around.
Also I still don't get it
>2009
>Xanax
I'm almost sure that Xanax/Benzos only started getting really popular around the late 2010s?!
>Literally a inferior copy of a VN that came years before.
And what is that game?
It's ironic since most dating sims fans are women who play otome games.
Why does everyone seethe at this?
it is bad
Impotent rage. Yeah, this shit's funny if you're 12, but getting this upset about it is ridiculous.
>but getting this upset about it is ridiculous.
You are exaggerating the reaction of the anons.
hes a pretentious hack
Why does everyone seethe at this?
Deep down, we know she's right.
ccuuttee
These guys always hide behind the parody mantra because they are to scared that doing something sincere would be considered shit by others.
It feels like it was made completely out of spite. Like it was made by people who hate visual novels, for people who hate visual novels. Like the dudebros in picrel.
>Woah dude. This visual novel sucks. There's like 10 different high school girls with neon coloured hair and massive boobies and they all want to have sex with the protagonist? Bleurgh! I'm going to make a visual novel that makes fun of this and the people who enjoy it. Call it a "deconstruction".
Then again, the visual novel genre isn't that very respectable. I read them regularly, and the only visual novels that are actually worth reading is just The House in Fata Morgana and maybe Narcissu. The others are just animu slop.
>"anime" with white women in it
it's so joever...
why are these Black person haters so obsessed with deconstructing shit. do they think ruining shit for everybody is based or something?
THIS GAY Black person STYLE OF WRITING MUST END
People have been complaining about post-modern ironic meta writing for literal decades now. But I think the best breakdown is that meta-awareness and irony have no redemptive qualities. It's too cynical and nihilistic for optimism. Too self-referential and self-aware to be played straight and taken seriously. And too dependent on it's original inspiration to be inspiring. So all that's left are these negative functions. Irony and meta-aware writing isn't capable of being genuine. It can only be a crude takedown of what's come before with no room to grow or develop. Class of '09 fits right into this. The protagonist can only ever be a cynical person attacking as the author's attack on typical romance visual novels. So, she can't have character growth because that would require sincerity in a story that has been nothing but insincere up until this point.
Wonderfully put.
it's haunting to think that generations have been warning about the degradation of writing quality for decades and no one listened. hopefully I can make something that isn't like that.
I also that hope you can make something truly genuine. Good luck.
Working on a zine that I’m putting for sale online soon.
You think it's possible to do a regression story? Since they're trying to do cynical and nihilistic deconstruction, by having the character worsen via the experience be a better plan?
You can have the character worsen. That's your standard Greek tragedy. But nihilism and cynicism is only part of the problem. Ironic writing is disingenuous and can't be made into something genuine once that line has been crossed. Nicole has already been shot, arrested for drug dealing, committed suicide and murdered in the game's multiple endings. Yet none of these endings were taken seriously and were instead written with total irreverence. Because, as a meta-commentary on the multiple endings of your standard visual novel, class of '09's endings are all bad ends. You can't tell a tragic story and constantly elbow and wink at your audience.
>for literal decades now
Are you sure? Whedon writing only became a real topic this decade
>she can't have character growth
Her whole point is being a total, unredeemable b***h. The VN never proposes to have "character growth", it's just for shits and giggles. Jecka is slightly more tri-dimensional than her, and also way hotter, anyway.
>slightly more tri-dimensional than her
>tri-dimenstional
ESL's would do well to be silent amongst their betters.
Rent free
Only option, none of you have marketable skills. That's why you had to leave and go somewhere else, right?
What are you talking about?
About Cinemaphile - Comics & Cartoons, friendo. Got a problem?
Don't be so hard on yourself, anon.
If you want a half decent western visual novel made by actual people who actually love visual novels and don't hide behind walls of irony and aren't afraid of being sincere, give Corpse Factory a shot. It's not perfect by any means, but it's a helluva cerebral wild ride from start to finish. Nothing much in way of cheap animu fanservice either.
In this scene, she received news that some random person has died, so she stumbles into a bathroom stall and proceeds to flick the bean before passing out on the bathroom floor for an hour.
>someone thinks narcissu is good
Okay what do you actually like about it I'm curious
>person that has watched 5 anime makes a parody
Always extremely cringe tbh. Make your own original stuff.
He tried. It's garbage.
Wow, (you) are so insufferable, (you) can't even enjoy this funny thing
I didn't think the vn was all that funny or had much to say and I expect this will be more of the same
It's probably gonna be kinda infuriating.
It better keep the same rhythm as the VN.
insufferable millennialol "humor." it's no skibidi toilet.
>$35,000 for a 5 min short
lmao it’s gonna look like shit
Hiw come? That's a ton of money
Dude this shit is so fricking funny and the Cinemaphileners are being contrarian hipsters about it? Yeah no fricking shit lmao keep seething and dilating, (you) miserable pieces of shits! XD
Yeah, the complaints about it being subversive is weird because the vast majority of popular and highly rated visual novels are subversive stories. Song of Saya is one notable example.
They've been poisoned by both /misc/ and lorecartoon brainrot that they cannot accept something funny and hilariously stupid on its own idiotic merits, instead choosing to nitpick why it isn't good and why they're too good for it.
If something like Drawn Together, Venture Bros or Archer came out today they could call it cancer for being too 'Meta Narratively Woke with Postmodern subversion awareness due to Quasi-Irony' instead of being able to laugh.
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Drawn Together would make woke adherents shit their pants to no end, get fricking real mate
Yeah, Drawn Together is a class of its own in how many people would hate it from every side of the political aisle.
>If something like Drawn Together, Venture Bros or Archer came out today they could call it cancer for being too 'Meta Narratively Woke with Postmodern subversion awareness due to Quasi-Irony' instead of being able to laugh.
this is moronic, the media landscape of the 00s was drastically different than it is now. those shows were fresh then but doing something like them now would be pretty stale.
>99% of Visual Novels revolve around romance.
>The author knows his genre pretty well.
I can literally tell you this and I haven't played 1 visual novel in my entire life lol. He knows just what he wants to know.
Most VNs are low key about dating/romancing women to be honest. In Hanachirasu, you could either leave with a girl out of love for a person or fight your battle out of your love for violence.
What I am saying is that he knows extremely basic stuff that someone new to the medium would know as well. He is not an expert(I would argue that you have to know japanese in order to be one considering how shit the translations are and how few of them are actually translated) and using that animation as a reference he doesn't have a good knowledge about anime either. Just like the ddlc guy who knew like 6 vns and a few anime and said in an interview that he thought cute girls but horror was somehow unique.
Oh it's definitely surface level, but I don't really care that much since he still got one element right. There's a lot of VNs with underage romance. It is why steam has been either prohibited their release or demanded censors. Gore Screaming Show is one example
>It is why steam has been either prohibited their release or demanded censors.
Unless it's e-girlcon with girls that look 9, it's extremely easy. Just say that all of your characters are of legal age, that's what most vns on steam have in description.
full playthrough
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7qRFNN9zl_6zKRU_b_Fwj2ciP9cj_ub8
From what I notice, nerds aggressively nitpick stuff that doesn't matter if they feel that the material makes fun of them.
They complain about stuff like Nicole being a flat character lacking development, even though the vast majority of cartoon/comic characters are flat characters like Spongebob. Nicole hates geek media, so I guess they don't really like her for that reason. Even though 2009 high school american girls wouldn't be major fans of it as well.
I love geek media, but I am not surprised if normies thought that it was a dumb hobby.
Frick, I forgot to buy the bundle on steam. I wasted it all on Fortnite, Frick.
I want them so fricking bad like you wouldn't believe.
Yeah, I can see that you don't really get it. Marx wasn't a post-modernist writer. Marx was a modernist writer. This kind of writing came after him. And it wasn't common in mythology and theatre plays. Because those stories were genuine. Oedipus was a genuine tragedy. It was a story about a man who ruined his own life. Post-modern stories like Seinfeld, Velma and Class of '09 are disingenuous. Because they're more a commentary on other stories. The story they're telling isn't the focus. It's just a vehicle for the writers to make ironic comments on what other stories would typically do in a similar narrative. Besides all that, the author of Class of '09 really doesn't know his genre. Because romance visual novels have already been parodied to death. Soulbro is late to a party that finished years ago.
Not at all lol, each of the routes has a unique theme to it and it has something to say about America. It is told in the most hilarious entertaining way out there because its told by a sociopathic traumatized drug addicted teen who stopped caring after losing control of the events that occurred in her life.
There's nothing that class of '09 says about America that isn't safe. Stuff that everybody already agrees with. Soulbro doesn't even seem to have controversial opinions and if he does then he's not sharing them. He's only sharing his bad writing.
>Postmodern is just making fun of other stories and doing meta commentary shit
Good to know Don Quixote and The Clouds from 417 BC are all postmodern works.
How do we regain sincerity as a culture? The irony pill really feels like culture losing it's innocence and we just can't go back. But it's fricking exhausting now that everything has to be self aware and agenda driven rather than narrative driven.
I like a good parody now and then. But now it's just the norm for anything made by English speakers. Even fap bait is ironic now.
To be fair to the irony pill. A lot of this kind of writing was a reaction to the insincere saccharine writing of the sixties and seventies. Where all of the characters would have their episodic problem fixed within the same episode. I also think we're already fighting this kind of writing by seeing the problem in front of us and choosing with our wallet. Velma got torn to shreds, people are cheering on the death of marvel and there's a space opening up for the indie scene. It just takes time for the effects of audience apathy to do away with the problems we're currently seeing.
I wouldn't care if it were just goofy cartoons doing this. But even the radio ads I hear on to way to work have this obnoxious self aware snarkiness that never turns off. I don't pay for cable anymore but I imagine TV ads are the same now
>How do we regain sincerity as a culture?
Regain it as an individual and become the kind of person people want to emulate.
I've never been a very charismatic or comedic person in the first place so I was never very ironic in the first place.
Why did you respond without even reading my post? Was there something you didn't get the first time you read it? Give it a few more goes and see if something dawns on you.
>Don't be ironic.
>Okay.
I have to wonder what response you were hoping for.
Huh? I said I don't really deal in irony, but I'm not charismatic so no one would want to emulate me. What did I miss?
"Be the change you want to see" isn't really applicable here, since being sincere will never get you as much attention as being ironic with modern English audiences.
You can't be an influencer if your ultimate goal is to not rock the boat.
I just hope the pendulum swings back. They say millennials can't get enough of this but I was already sick of it 5 years ago.
I really wonder why it has hung around so long because Millennials were also trying to push 'New Sincerity' and it didn't last long. But read/watch Gen X media and the meta-awareness and irony seems to have already been present by that point.
It was always around way before the first millennial was even born, but it was rare and it felt more special when you'd encounter something like that.
When it's everywhere its just tiresome, and makes me feel that the authors tried to make something sincere, but lacked the confidence to actually own it. So they went with the "lmao so ironic this cant happen in reality am I rite *wink* oh here's a reference" as a shield, rather than trying to become a better writer or retool their idea.
I think we need to double down and be ironic about irony, meta about meta, until that becomes oversaturated and we end up right back where we started.
You just have to wait for a generation who sees the older folks being ironic 24/7 so they see it as uncool and obnoxious by association. There's no saving millennials. Irony poisoning is fatal.
The kickstarter is highway robbery
It's also horrendously put together. One of the worst I've ever seen. But if you have the fanbase you clearly feel you're above putting something cohesive together and while they're not wrong, production is going to be a complete shit show and their fanbase will turn on them because they clearly have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
No real explanation of what the episode plot will be about, no run down of the characters, no explanation on why they need the amount of money they're asking for. Who are the industry veterans you're working with?
How much of the money will go towards animatics, backgrounds, animation roughs, cleanups, vfx, lighting, post production, taxes, etc.?
Dissapointing this drek got funded successfully when there's hundreds of other animation projects out there by passionate people with great ideas that clearly elaborate on what the funds will go towards, that don't get funded and ignored.
The money is probably not coming from the people that would fund those projects you'd like.
What I like or not is subjective and irrelevant. It's the fact that there's really no substance or any thought put into here, except them getting lucky by being semi-viral as some point years ago. While others spend months or even years developing their ideas while nobody gives them any attention.
As you can see with morons ITT
The gays on Cinemaphile like shit that appeals to nobody
They're no different from the ironic media they complain about
Being afraid at sincere attempts at making something getting rejected by the masses
Unfortunately this is why you've gotta play the youtube game to help your audience find you. I feel the same way towards goodbye volcano high. That game is a complete mess and a total rip-off of thirty bucks. But it still has very positive reviews on steam because the tumblr crowd was able to find it.
Macks is one of the funniest people on Youtube. I still regularly watch those fake documentaries he made, that shit never gets old.
So yeah, I wanna' see more of his stuff.