Hey guys, I'm the OP behind the past two Bambi threads, sorry I couldn't make this and link it.
This thread will be dedicated to films made before the Disney renaissance, movies like Sleeping Beauty, Robin Hood, The Rescuers, Oliver and Company, Black Cauldron, Bambi, Lady and the Tramp, and so on.
Talk about sequels to these films is also allowed.
The Aristocats has a cute intro
Love the animation of the kitties
The intro song is one of Disney's finest numbers
It is certainly catchy
Used to think he was saying wish pets when I was younger for some reason
Disney is really good at making songs sound similar (and good) in every languages but for this one, I really prefer the French version.
>Aristocats
needs a sequel
Does it? Is there anything they can really do with that? Atleast with Lady and the Tramp they had children at the end.
And besides, it's better that we DON'T get a sequel to a classic in this day and age, since Disney has been politicizing everything they make, just about
There was going to be one but it never got made since it was just at the time when Disney axed the DVD sequels.
Damn we really missed out, Bambi 2 was the last D2V sequel and it was a legit good movie, so maybe Aristocats 2 would be decent as well
Here's an animatic
https://vimeo.com/170894265
Interesting. I like how the voice actors for Duchess and O'Malley sound pretty similar, but man, I can see why they didn't do a Rescuers 3, it'd probably be uncanny for most Long-time fans, and they'd probably end up having to replace Bernard's VO as well
What was the premise of Aristocats 2, anyway? they're on a boat, so do they get marooned or something?
Taken from an interview
>"To make The Aristocats 2, we tried to distill the essence of the original film. In the first film, the kittens' nemesis was a misguided butler intent on stealing their fortune. The sequel created a similar dynamic by pitting them against a israeliteel thief on the open seas aboard a luxury cruise ship.
>"The flavor of the film was sort of a mystery/farce/comedy. There was also a young kitty love interest for Marie who became the focal character of the film. By singling out one character for the central story arc we could do a better job at strengthening the elements of the film. Sometimes when you have an ensemble cast, things can really get watered down because you don't have enough time to spend with each character. We tried to avoid that pitfall.
>"The original film takes place in Paris but we didn't feel they exploited the setting to its fullest potential. We wanted to adopt a European flair by filling our ship with a cast from places like France, Scotland, England, Spain, etc, thus creating a rich environment in both scenery and character in the era of the early 1900s. Our main objective besides the mystery element was to make it completely fun. We worked hard to up the action scenes and create a level of high energy.
https://animatedviews.com/2008/disneytoon-studios-and-the-sequels-that-never-were-with-tod-carter/
Sounds like it could've been fun aside from the love-interest-for-Marie part. I don't know why but giving characters love interests while they're still kids always felt odd to me.
Sounds interesting, kinda sad we never got that
Seconded, it was kinda odd that Scamp got a girlfriend in L&T2, but Marie is probably younger than he was in that movie, so it'd still be kinda weird
I forgot about L&T2, I never saw it (I think the only DTV sequels I saw were the Aladdin ones and Bambi 2). Seeing the discussion earlier really made me want to rewatch Lady & the Tramp sometime. I was really really little when I last saw it. Shame about the racist Siamese cats ...
It's a very good movie, and the characters are well done. L&T2 is also decent but get ready for a bunch of musical numbers and Scamp being a chode for 3/4 of the movie
>Shame about the racist Siamese cats ...
Compared to other stuff Disney has done, they really aren't that bad. Still, don't let them take away your enjoyment
Would they remove him from the sequel
Thanks anon, was hoping to see this
You have delivered once again
The Kickback from that thing would probably send him flying lmao
Kek I didnt know that Gephetto was a /k/ommando
Gephetto gives no quarter
Pinocchio is such a beautiful film. The shot of the village with the Multiplane Camera is mindblowing. Definitely my favourite.
Why is the CGI so bad here?
That is not CGI you zoomer
How can you tell? It’s not like you worked on the film.
My good man, the film was made in the 40s
yeah but it has some ugly post processing effect that makes the animation all wonky.
It might look like that because it was digitally optimized
Then how was in made? Does that guy look like a live action actor to you, dummy?
Either you're baiting or moronic
It's called animation
The instructions only came in german so they winged it
What are you talking about?
Blows my mind how they animated him jittering like that.
ALL MOVIES NEED TO LOOK LIKE THIS. WHY CANT ALL MOVIES LOOK LIKE THIS?
It would get old after a while
how about an entire movie animated on ones? oh wait...
Go away
All of Pinocchio is 1s or 2s, although that's a standard affair for Disney.
it should be all ones and widescreen. OH WAIT...
Why do you invade our threads
cause yall wont appreciate ones animation. it could have been a worldwide phenomenon had it come out. it would be as big as toy story was.
Nobody even knows what it is
Hasn't this perfectly-fine film already been ruined enough?
Monumental painstaking effort from immensely talented people. People need to accept that the Disney classics are not a benchmark, they're a high watermark, a result of concentrated effort by Walt Disney to gather in as much talent as possible and produce amazing work. We won't see the like again until somebody similarly motivated gets access to a similar pool of talent. Which might not be in our lifetimes, or ever.
Don’t make me sad anon…
Nonsense. Just get all the porn artists from Newgrounds. They'll have a full 2 hour movie done in a month.
What are your guy's thoughts on the sequel films? Which one is best?
If you mean the direct to DVD ones, the 101 Dalmatians one is objectively the best.
Dalmatians 2 is my personal favorite but I think that other films like Bambi 2 and Cinderella 3 are also strong contenders for the top spot.
>ywn have a sequel of patch adventures where he grows up to become a ranger dog helping farm animals while thunderbolt retires from acting and chose to stay with him to train him
Why live?
I would like to see that. I would also like to see his interactions with the rest of his siblings after the events of the movie.
We probably won't get any good sequels to the classic Disney films, sadly. The last good sequel to any Disney film was Bambi 2, the rest are either decent or really bad, like Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen 2
Or worse, they start to run out of classic material and to adapt into live action and they just start to pump live action sequels.
They're already gonna do that with Bambi at some point in the future, completely killing the charm of the first film, unless they do some Detective Pikachu shit and make them look like the cartoon but with realistic texturing, which I guess wouldn't be that bad
Cry about it
What is the point of a live action Bambi film?
money
Robin Hood is the best of the lot
Rescuers was second best
Only thing I didn't like about Robin Hood is all the animation recycling in the dancing scene, but Disney did that a lot back then to save money so it's excusable
As a kid you don't notice those things
Not that but they recycled other things in the film too that I did notice as a kid, such as that walk cycle of the Sheriff walking towards the screen as well as a lot of guard animations (not complaining about reusing the same guard in a scene but using the same scene of them throughout the film)
Would you believe me if I said that I did? Because I did. But maybe that's because I'm extremely visually-oriented (and even became an artist/painter later in life).
>Aristocats
I remember liking it as a kid but it's horrendously boring an adult. I know this is a common criticism of old Disney movies from zoomers but I love most other movies like LATT and Bambi where people make the same criticism.
>Robin Hood
I was honestly surprised to learn this was poorly received on release. I guess it makes sense because of the recycled animation, but it's a highly entertaining movie.
>The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
one of Disney's best films ever and is in my personal top 5
>The Rescuers
meh
>The Fox and the Hound
I get why people like it but it isn't one of my favorites.
>The Black Cauldron
It's amazing how good it is considering that it almost destroyed Disney by flopping so hard.
>The Great Mouse Detective
I thought it was overrated but I need to re-watch it because I haven't seen it in 7 years.
>Oliver & Company
Another film like Aristocats I remember liking as a kid but hasn't aged well as an adult.
Well tbf, Oliver and Company was made in the 80s, so it's not really going to
Perfect isn't Easy is one of my favorite musical numbers
>I was honestly surprised to learn this was poorly received on release
Really? I didn't know that, thought the recycling would be mostly overlooked since it's only in a few scenes
And Black Cauldron flopped so hard because Disney took too long making it and the hype for it died
Robin Hood has a 55% on Rotten Tomatoes. It's a weird Road to El Dorado situation.
who gives a shit about rotten tomatoes?
>conversation about critical consensus
>who gives a shit about rotten tomatoes?
it's literally a barometer of what critics thought, and we are discussing the disconnect between critics and audiences
Critics tongue my anus but not literally just metaphorically.
>Rotten Tomatoes
Don't care about anything those mouth-breathing morons have to say, they gave TLJ an 80%
Honestly, nitpicking for recycled animation is shallow, the story is well-done, as is the artwork and voice acting and the comedic moments
Road to El Dorado is a bad movie. Derivative, mostly unfunny, meandering, unengaging, and full of problematic elements
I don't see what is so bad about Road to El Dorado at all
it doesn't have a good story or interesting conflicts. The comedy is also unfunny
i can hardly think of anything i like about it. Such a turgid and flat movie. It's fluff, simple as
As a kid I hated the cliche of "people go to island/jungle, get treated like gods/almost get eaten" cliche but that was because the islanders/villagers were always portrayed as a bland, dumb hivemind. El Dorado was different to me because you can tell right away there's internal conflict going on between the chief and the obvious villain dude. It's not the cliches, it's the execution that I love. It's still one of my favourite movies.
Frick off sharkc**t, no one asked you to come into a fricking Disney thread so you can 'reeeeee' about a completely unrelated movie just because someone else dared to mention it in a positive context offhandedly.
Does he just sit around and wait for animation threads in the hopes he finds an El Dorado post? That's what it seems like
He'll usually just barge in uninvited in any Dreamworks or older Disney thread to spam his tripe, provocation or no. Mods need to permaban his ass again because it's obvious he didn't learn shit.
Sounds like he needs to get a life
b***h you WISH you had a fricking bromance like Miguel and Tulio
>hasn't aged well
media doesn't aged, it just loses popularity
>I thought it was overrated
overrated doesn't exist, silly anon
Georgette is such a beautiful lady
yes
Why did the artist draw her so thicc
She has one of the best musical numbers imo
Ah yes, the rat, cat, dog, and fox era.
But it's one of Disney's best, along with the Renaissance
>Ah yes, the rat, cat, dog, and fox era.
¿1910s to 1940s?
>¿
Fricked up, ignore it
Tbf, a lot of Bronze age Disney films have animals as the main characters, when most of their big films were about fairytale princesses or their own characters, like in Fun and Fancy Free
And yet those are some of the best Disney films ever made
Yes
I was memeing about Disney being a company founded around a rat and it's dog and duck friends
Ah I see
I want non Dora the explorer Mickey Mouse feature film BTW
But seeing how everything is going I don't want the risk of Pluto finally getting out of the closet
The Rescuers has the most melancholic sounding movie intros I've ever heard from animated film
God The Rescuers is such a good film. I personally felt like the sequel left much to be desired, as it focused more on Cody than with Miss Bianca and Bernard. The ending to Down Under also felt underwhelming. It's sad because that was the last time Eva Gabor did a voice role before her death. Wish Disney would give The Rescuers more attention, it is such a masterfully made movie, and it even helped launch Don Bluth's animation career
>I personally felt like the sequel left much to be desired
the gold eagle was really fricking cool.
The opening was really good
Yeah, I just wish there was a bit more focus on Bernard and Miss Bianca. More scenes of them braving the Outback would have been great
Don Bluth was already part of Disney before The Rescuers. Maybe there's a mistake?
What if Secret of Nimh was made by Disney? What would change?
In the early 80s? It would probably be xerox and more lighthearted. If they leaned more on Rescuers/Fox and Hound, it might be okay. If it leaned more on Oliver and Company/Mouse Detective, I would be annoyed. That's all I'll say. Personally, I'm quite fond of the soulful Bluth version that actually exists above all else. A version by Renaissance Disney would be more interesting I think.
That makes sense, yeah. I will agree that the final version is far more superior than what Disney would have done. Don Bluth is a genius and I hope he has it in him to make one more animated film before he dies
>What if Secret of Nimh was made by Disney? What would change?
A more lineal plot.
There probably wouldn't be any blood. I think seeing blood in The Secret of Nimh as a kid blew my mind; I didn't realize animation could be violent like that.
I think blood has been seen in a couple Disney films though, so there's a chance it might have?
I'M LOST AT SEA WITHOUT A FRIEND
THIS JOURNEY, WILL IT EVER END?
This movie had boobs in it!
Was that even proven to be real?
Idk, always seemed like bullshit to me
Yes, its real.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-rescuers-topless/
Gotta wonder how someone managed to sneak that in and how it went unnoticed for so long
It was only in a couple frames, and this was before home media, so even if you somehow noticed it while watching, you wouldn't have been able to pause and check if you saw correctly. I'm also not sure about laserdisc but getting a frame perfect pause on VHS seems difficult, so even then checking would have been hard.
Gotta wonder why someone put it there in the first place, maybe as some kind of inside joke?
Yeah, someone probably thought it would be funny if one of the windows had a naked woman in it and added it for a laugh then either forgot to remove it or just assumed no one would catch it.
That makes sense, it is kinda humorous so I'm sure it was even funnier for the guy who put it there when he found out that edit made it into several thousand copies of the film
It was pretty funny
>Bronze age
>Literally the only shit movie is Cauldron.
Seriously half of these are better than what the studio was making under Disney himself.
I seriously don't understand the hate for Black Cauldron
Disney's Magic pig X nightmare fuel: The movie
The problem with The Black Cauldron is that Gurgi the little comic-relief Ewok dude is the most interesting and useful character in it.
The hero, the Princess, and the Bard are all completely boring and just sort of wander from setpiece to setpiece without accomplishing much of anything under their own power.
Additionally, the Horned King is a cool-looking villain, but has nothing to make his personality stand out at all.
There was gonna be much more to the film but Disney cucked themselves by removing them
I heard about how the undead troops were going to be grislier, but what else was cut?
Is the book worth reading?
I am impressed you find Gurgi interesting. He was the only reason part of the movie I didn’t like. Reminded me too much of Jar Jar.
Good to sse that you made the thread Bambibro
Glad to be of service, anon. I try to keep to my word
An Epic Mickey film would be kino but Disney won't do it because of their "image" and because they never want to use Oswald for anything
>they never want to use Oswald for anything
I hate that they bought it to do nothing with it
They bought him, put him in a game, and then he has only been a cameo since then. It's absolutely criminal
He’s at Disneyland.
Like, as a mascot?
These guys are cute, but I think Dumbo might be the cutest animal kid from Disney movies. He's so adorable, and it breaks my heart how most of the movie gets spent by everyone bullying him.
I haven't watched Dumbo since I was a kid, but I'm scared to watch it again because I know I'm just going to be thinking about the crows the whole time. Don Bluth said it is Disney's best paced and executed film. Maybe I'll just keep that thought and sit it out.
I watched Dumbo again this year after finding an old DVD, the crows didn't really bother me but i watched a dub in wich they weren't talking with as bad an accents .
Didn't know that Bluth said that. I remembered liking it as a child but would rather watch other VHS's we had. After watching it again everything before he learns to fly is amazing but as soon as he leaves the circus the last fifteen minutes of the movie feel really fast and just moving to get to the ending. he is a cute ellephant though, love the design
I think you shouldn't let the controversy ruin the movie for you. I never felt like the complaints about the crows seemed fair; those birds were the coolest characters in the movie. Along with Timothy and Dumbo's mother, they're the only ones who actually sympathize with Dumbo. They give him crucial help, and their song is pretty catchy too. They already got such a positive portrayal that I don't know how the movie could've improved it any more.
If you weren't familiar with the historical stereotypes of the time and place, you likely wouldn't even realize the crows were supposed to represent black people. I know I didn't realize that as a kid.
Just think of them as crows? I can't imagine being so bothered by black crows it ruins an entire memorable Disney movie for you. Song of the South is also great if you can just think of it as a nice world where black people were happy.
Where the other Bambibros at?
At their mom's funeral LMAO
If that's the case, I hope they're doing ok
Hello
I'm here
Hello
Disturbing introduction tho
Sup bro, this is the book anon. Sorry for being mia, was busy moving to my new apartment yesterday.
Got to listen to the bambi audiobook on the way to my new place though. I forgot how good Bambi and his dad's relationship in the book gets. When Bambi gets shot, it's his dad who keeps him up and finally admits he's his son, and while he recovers, the old stag was always there to keep him safe. The Prince really settles into the father role by the end of the book.
The book also specifies that three distinct shots occur before the Old Stag leads Bambi to the dead body of the hunter. I initially thought it was due to poacher friendly fire, but with how the man died with is back to the ground and a shot to the chest, I realized that he probably died due to an argument with another hunter that led to the two shooting at eachother. If it was self inflicted, there only would have been one shot.
OP here, How are you settling into the new house, anon? Also, I outta read the book myself, not only because I love Bambi but also because I like books like that a lot
A lot of writers don't know how to write proper love stories anymore. It's always some dysfunctional relationship or abusive, when we had relationships that, while going through some turbulence, still ended up being wholesome and loving relationships in the end. What happened? I guess people don't really know how to write proper relationships between characters anymore. I love Lady and the Tramp not only because it's a cute dog film, but it somehow captures how human relationships work sometimes and also how our pets might perceive us
Doing pretty good, OP. Home is bare bones right now but give it a few weeks and I'll have it decorated proper.
This era of cartoons (70s/80s) is among my favorites to discuss just for how influential it was despite it being called the 'dark age' of Disney. In truth, this was only considered the dark ages because Disney was no longer the only one making major animated films, that and their talent were all leaving to try to make the films they wanted to make. Don Bluth was killing it in the box office, as an example. Then you got guys like Ralph Bakshi making some raunchy stuff for the time like Fritz the Cat. It was a wild west and a start of a new era, because now any studio with the talent could make their own works and make bank off of it.
I was talking about how 'proto-furries' or whatever they were called were also a major part of this era like I said here
since they all got inspired by the steady stream of talking animal content for both kids and adults coming out at the time.
Good to hear that you're settling in well
Yeah, Don Bluth was on top of his game for a while. His studio challenged Disney pretty well before the release of TLM, which brought about the Disney Renaissance and the reason they're so wealthy now. I kinda wish Don Bluth made more movies, because films like Secret of Nimh, American Tail, All Dogs go to Heaven, and Anastasia are masterpieces.
And about furries, yeah, that is true. There was once a time where not all animal content was sexual and a lot of it was story driven, but that is hard to find nowadays
>Anastasia
A wonderful film for sure, but I feel this one was Don Bluth's last hurrah of the 90s, since before this film he had released a series of bombs, like Troll in Central Park, Rock-a-Doodle, and Pebble and the Penguin. It was his attempt to ride the 'animated musical' trend Disney had started and made a frickton of money off of, and while it worked and made about 150 million, it didn't make nearly as much money as anything he made in the 80s and certainly nothing compared to the cash Disney was getting from their films.
TLM was more or less the end of the 'disney is no longer top dog, so we can make whatever we want' era that many animators enjoyed. Once the mermaid hit the sea, everyone wanted to get that animated musical cash, and it wasn't until like, Shrek that the era had completely ended.
Yeah, that's true, but a lot of these musical films are pretty good. I really like Beauty and the Beast and Hunchback of Notre Dame. Anastasia is pretty good in it's own right, and the songs are pretty memorable, but I kinda get frustrated that people critique it for not being historically accurate, yet will give Pocahontas several academy awards and good ratings
I'm not from the original threads, but I discovered that the U.S. Forest Service made ads featuring scenes from Bambi and Bambi 2, thought it was really interesting
I am a pretty big Bambi fan
Can I just say that the opening songs and the rest of ths OST for both Bambi films is amazing? Very view animated films have topped it for me
wish disney would pay more attention to their bronze-age films
there's only one deer that matters
Go back to the Hazbin threads
Thanks for making the classic thread, Bambi-anon. I enjoyed talking about Bambi over the last 2 days.
I liked Bambi but I guess if I had to pick my favorite Disney renaissance movie, I guess it would be Lady and the Tramp. Beauty and the Beast is up there too for me. How about you, anons?
OP here, thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed the last two threads, I sure did, the discussion was very fun
I love Lady and the Tramp, probably one of my favorite animal films ever. I liked the sequel as well but was a bit confused on why there were so many musical numbers compared to the previous movie, but I still liked it
(Even if Scamp was a little chode for most of it)
Lady is a cutie
I didn't really care for Lady and the Tramp as a kid that much, but I've kind of understood it better at a later age. Like, the couple fussing over the baby so much that they neglect their dog, or how they're worried that the dog might hurt the baby? Those hit in a different way as an adult. As a kid I would've looked at it from the POV of the cute dog characters who were upset that they got treated unfairly, but as an adult I can relate to the humans and understand why parents would get so protective over their kid.
Lady's affair with Tramp also hits differently. As a kid you'd just think naively that love is love, and what would be more important than that? As an adult you realize that their relationship would look awkward if they were humans. Lady was a classy girl but young and naive, while Tramp was a cunning street bum and a manipulative womanizer. In human context people would frown upon a guy like that, or a woman who chose to date him. Especially with Tramp's history. Why would he stay with Lady when he didn't stay with any of the other girls? (In the end he did stay with her though; I guess it was true love after all.)
People often talk about Lady spending a night with Tramp. Going with the wrong crowd landed her in dog jail, too. She ruined her reputation in the neighborhood. Jock and Trusty are way older than she is, but they offer to marry her so that she could look dignified again and get her honor back. These are interesting but very old-fashioned ideas, and they're also something I understood better at an older age.
Yeah, Lady's reaction to Tramp coming back is pretty justified too. He had sex with her, got her in trouble, and probably got her pregnant outside of wedlock, and then finds out he's gotten down with other female dogs. But at the same time, she genuinely loves him, and it seems he does too, considering he came back for her once she was out of the pound. He could have easily just forgot about her, but didn't
I've wondered why Lady was special to him. Like, what did he see in her, and why did he choose her instead of one of the other girls he'd met. You're right; Tramp had the opportunity to turn away and he had done so lots of time before with other girls. It would be nothing new to him. But this one time he chose to act differently, and he ended up changing his entire lifestyle for her sake.
Was it that Lady was so innocent, child-like and naive that he felt a need to protect her? Was it that she actually rejected him instead of trying to chase him like the other girls, and the rejection made him want her more badly? Or did he simply experience genuine love? Probably the latter, but I wonder if the other two factors affected his behavior too.
I don't know either, he's the cutest out of those kittens.
I feel like it's the first option there, people can become starstruck. Tramp must have been charmed by Lady because he had never met another girl like her
Glad they went with the style they did because that looks really odd. The animation in The Rescuers is also pretty expressive as well, especially for Madame Medusa, who has some of the most fluid character animation I've seen
I definitely understand what you mean. As I kid, I loved Lady and the Tramp because it was a story about cute dogs.
I recently rewatched it, and there was definitely far more I picked up on as an adult. It's understandable for the parents to be distracted and unintentionally ignore or treat Lady differently as they are adjusting to parenthood. However, I didn't get the impression that Jim Dear and Darling were specifically worried about the dogs around the baby. It was only Aunt Sarah who got all upset about it.
I also get what you mean regarding how awkward it would be for Lady and Tramp to court each other when viewing their relationship through a human lens. However, it happens. The prim and proper lady gets intrigued by the"wild side" while the street guy slowly learns that "wild side" isn't what it is cracked up to be and may settling down isn't that bad of an idea.
We kind of see this realization in Tramp in the sequel. When talking about being a stray with Scamp, we see Tramp not completely disregard the joys of freedom, but he has come to appreciate the comfort that comes from having a stable home and a family. I think this is something that many of us come to realize as we get older.
Which leads me to
's question. I think Tramp was charmed by her from the get go and then she kept impressing him. In the scene where he is trying to get the beaver to chew off the muzzle, he seems genuinely surprised that she is playing into the whole sales pitch and stating it's a free sample.
I think in the end what made Lady special was the fact she was just different than the other street dogs he had been with. And to play into the old-fashion ideas, he probably felt it was necessary to make an honest dog out of her when finding out she was having his puppies.
disney wouldn't be able to make a movie so charming than this one mainly because the people nowadays behind the studio can't interact like people anymore and they'll hate any instances of a genuine love story such as this one. Lady and the Tramp is my favorite movie (followed by Oliver and Co.)
I just love how in just one movie we saw them meeting each other, their flings, passion and betrayal only to leave it behind over one interest which is to protect someone. also bump
>That's not a flower, ya dumbass!
What did he mean by this?
Man Disney has been on top of their game when it comes to making MILFs
Post your favorite background art
I have a few
Love this scene. Every time I go to a zoo and the late afternoon/evening rolls around, it always reminds me of scenes like this.
Yo, why the frick does nobody want Oliver ;_;
because he's a ginger
That only applies to humans, anon
This motherfricker is cute. He doesn’t do anything of note his entire movie after meeting Dodger, but he didn’t deserve to not get picked.
Almost all animated cat characters are cuties
I wanna give him so many headpats
Time to cry again
Still my waifu
Man, Eva Gabor's characters were always such charmers, huh? Miss Bianca has been a waifu of mine since forever
Anyone remember the Lady Belle thread?
Not the weirdest crossover, I've seen odder stuff than that
Off-topic, but I like Bernard a lot. He starts out as some meek janitor and becomes a proper Rescue Aid Society agent, and scores a cute woman in the process. I always considered him to be of the "himbo" archetype, but he knows how to command respect, just look at the sequel
>The Rescuers
I recently learned that Bernard got some really weird-looking concept art.
http://andreasdeja.blogspot.com/2013/05/bernard-bianca.html
I guess they're easy enough to identify as a mouse and all, but those design ideas just look strange to me.
how is it that discussion about these movies is 10x more peaceful than discussion about other stuff on this board
I genuinely enjoy Robin Hood and Great Mouse Detective, Ustinov and Price make every scene they're in better. The bit where Hiss gets kicked in his sleep and his resulting expression is one of those rare things that gets me to laugh every time.
Out of the rest the only one I really dislike is Aristocats.
Robin Hood has some really good reaction image material, some of the expressions in that movie are funny as Hell
>Out of the rest the only one I really dislike is Aristocats.
I've seen this opinion a couple times, why do people not like that film?
I just found it boring, and I didn't like any of the music or characters.
she is so cute bros
Gawd I hated this whole sequence. It was so boring and annoying and girls are icky.
Now I long for any contact of a woman...
I know that feel anon
Which Disney films have you still not watched yet?
I still haven't sat down to watch the following ones:
Saludos Amigos
Make Mine Music
Fun and Fancy Free
Melody Time
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr Toad
Also, there are some Disney movies that don't count as Disney Classics. Like short movies, direct-to-video sequels, CGI remakes, or movies with live-action segments. The list of movies I haven't seen is longer if those count; I've seen some of them but not every single one.
I haven't seen a lot of the older films with origanal Disney characters, I did see The Adventures of Mr. Toad and Ichabod Crane, but it was a very long time ago and I remember virtually nothing about that movie
I meant that The Rescuers had a hand in him launching his solo career in a way
New ones like Raya, just dont care
Also never seen Meet the Robinsons
Or Song of the South
meet the robinsons is fun
not super amazing but simply fun
Seen all of them.
old Disney shorts and TV series?
Haven’t even scratched the surface
Oh you'll be here a while trying to get through all the shows
Other anon, but could you tell me a good place to start with older Disney animated TV series or television movies/direct-to-video animation?
I watched a lot of them on VHS like Ichabod and Mr Toad and Melody Time, but was wondering it here's a good checklist somewhere.
I’d start with this
It should be a crime that this animation was used with xerox and bullshit scribbly backgrounds. I would love to go back in time and beat up the hippies and losers who think this shit soviet style looks good.
>shit soviet style
Wtf are you talking about? this doesn't look like Soviet cartoon art at all
Anon: "WHAT? But I'm 12 and the Rescue Rangers movie is great. I also suck dicks."
Disney, the studio that made everything frickable just with the way they drew eyes.
E
Honestly, Pooh is really more of a silver age film than anything.
Wish I had made it in time for the Bambi threads.
I love the scene with Bambi trying to talk, especially when he mimics Thumper's little nose twitch
One of the only movie scenes to make me smile every time
Sometimes it's necessary so the thread isn't canned. FOTM and discourse bullshit gets bumped the most and actual discussion threads like this get put at the bottom because of it
It is pretty frustrating that that's the case
This is why I wish there was a Cinemaphile general board, so stuff like this stays active longer
Surely you can do more than just write the word bump though, can't you? This is a discussion thread after all, wouldn't it be better to bump the thread with something of substance? Bump comments should be reserved for shit like storytimes.
I should watch The Rescuers, The Rescuers Down Under and The Great Mouse Detective.
they look so comfy and interesting.
You should, they are such kino films, especially the first Rescuers film
That is so damn cute my god
Great Mouse Detective is honestly a really good film, I think you'll enjoy it a lot, same with Rescuers.
All are absolutely worth checking out, I especially love how the first Rescuers and The Great Mouse Detective do that whole "tiny society that still exists in our world it's just tiny" thing. Really magical.
>steals your money
>laughs about it
>leaves
Steal? Robin didn't steal, he just took a little for those who can afford it
This is basically the furry era of Disney and it's responsible for 80% of the degeneracy online right now.
Yes and?
>it's responsible for 80% of the degeneracy online right now
Weird way to say the Lion King era. THAT is when the degeneracy really started to bloom.
Furries from the 70's started existing in this era but this was pre-internet, keep in mind. Any furries around at this point were making comics and fanzines, like Stan Sakai making Usagi Yojimbo. It was a pretty major age of content creation as furries got inspired to make their own stories rather than jerking off to inflation porn or making edgy comics about castration.
>jerking off to inflation porn or making edgy comics about castration.
There was once a time where Furry literature was worth reading, not anymore
>There was once a time where Furry literature was worth reading, not anymore
Pretty much. Anthropomorphic animal characters were more an inspiration for other artists to make their own content back then, and a lot of major content spawned from it that we still know of today. Usagi Yojimbo as said, TMNT, Redwall, Animalympics, and various anthology comic series like Critters.
This was back when they were throwing their work to the general public more or less as a means to show animal characters in new settings beyond a simple disney film. So usually said comics were made with a general to adult audience in mind. With the internet, that filter needed to make these works safe for public sale fell apart, and work got more 'specialized' over time. You still get your more general furry content that is meant to tell stories with anthro characters now and then, like Blacksad or Lackadaisy(If it ever finishes), but that initial boom of content meant for anyone we saw in the early years of the fandom has long passed.
If you want some top tier furry cartoons from this era, look no further than Japan. They were taking direct inspiration from the indie comic scene in Europe and were making tons of talking animal cartoons with a surprising amount of depth left and right. You got Tezuka's content from earlier of course, but then you got Spaceship Sagittarius, pic related, and of course there was Moomin, which got three different anime based on the original stories and comics.
Even in their dark ages, Disney's content was still influencing the biggest creators from all over the world. It's inspiring.
I emailed the creator of Altri Mondi (Andrea Romoli) last year in Italian and he responded back in less than a day in English. He's still around and doing stuff. The majority of his fans on twitter are Japanese.
That's wonderful to hear! It's great knowing the dude's still around getting stuff done, though I'm not surprised so many of his fans are Japanese. If the Moomin fandom is anything to go by, Japanese fans of european comics that got adapted to anime tend to be very passionate. Japanese families take trips to the Moomin theme park in Finland year-round.
>Moomin
>furry
Anthropomorphic =/= furry
GMD is GOAT film
Ratigan is also a pretty great villain in his own right, almost succeeded too
What's this? Got more?
it's from "they drew as they pleased part 5"
Neta, I always like to see concept art of these movies
Prince John was one of the best characters in Robin Hood
There's a Robin Hodd artbook? NEED
Jenny!
I remember using the frame-by-frame function on my VCR during her scenes for nefarious purposes.
You madman
Were you ok as a child?
No, I was obsessed with butts and still am.
Cute!
Olivia Flaversham is such a cutie
That is so cute. Basil would make a pretty good and fun dad, I bet
Alternate early design of Robin Hood
Let me show you REALLY early.
Man I wonder how different the film would have been if it looked like that?
How are there HD copies of these 50 year old character sketch sheets? Did the Disney company release them publicly or where they leaked by studio members?
Auction sites make bank by selling them to collectors. Disney sometimes gives them the material.
Cute puppers
The fat one was always my favorite
I only like 5 percent of disney films. Winnie the pooh and bambi are favorites of mine.
>5%
that is extremely limiting
What can I say, a lot of it does nothing for me. I also hate the pussfied changes to stories like the jungle book and the fox and the hound.
>a living puppet is amazing
>but the scary-ass anthropomorphic fox and cat walking around isn't
They also got away with everything with 0 punishment.
Of course not, Honest John and Gideon are cute
is the black cauldron worth watching? it's the only Disney movie I don't remember ever seeing
Personally I don't think it's a great film but also not the complete dud some make it out to be. The production values are very good, at least.
The only worthwhile thing about it is The Horned King
Also this. The "controversy" is blown out of proportion, and if their designs didn't remind me of the Fat Albert characters I would call bullshit on the whole thing
>it could have been a worldwide phenomenon had it come out
I really doubt it. The issue is that the story nosedives once they leave the city
>Nobody even knows what it is
Except you're on Cinemaphile. If you take animation even remotely seriously, you know Richard Williams and this movie.
I like and respect animation but I have never even heard of that film. This anon spams it in literally any Disney-related thread and it is getting really annoying
Yeah, spamming sucks and I won't defend it. However, it really is a movie worth seeing. I recommend the Recobbled Cut
>I like and respect animation but I have never even heard of that film
There's a couple reasons for that, including it went through 30 years of development hell, the fact that it's actually incomplete, and a hastily put together theatrical cut was released in an attempt to ride the coattails of Aladdin. But as a self-proclaimed animation appreciator, the Recobbled Cut really should be on your shortlist of movies to watch.
>The fact that such fluid animation was possible back then is amazing
Why? The limitations were manpower (cost) and time, not technology. It's the "Golden Age" of animation for a reason.
>this scene alone must have taken a whole day to animate
I don't know the size of the team for Stromboli, but you're lowballing it, even if you consider just the animation and cleanup and none of the coloring. There's a couple hundred frames in that 18 seconds.
It's certain that people in the 1940s were working with worse technology. Cameras, film, paint, multiplane, editing, audio, etc were probably all would've been more primitive and more expensive. They also didn't have computers, internet, instant photos and videos as resources either. Old animation is great because they basically invented the groundwork for everything while being held back hugely in ways that we take for granted.
>Cameras, film, paint, multiplane, editing, audio
I don't think any of these changed enough after the 40's to seriously impact the animation process (they had multiplane even for Snow White). And the shortcuts that were implemented before the digital age, like xerography, came with drawbacks.
My personal opinion is that the philosophy behind animation changed to be more concerned with cost-saving, and that this impacted the animation industry for the major studios more than any new technology on its own.
no actually aladdin was made specifically to turn peoples attention away from the thief, and then disney forced warner bros to pull the plug on the thief and hand it to them so they can market it as a shitty bootleg of aladdin by changing the story. and all because the animation quality exceeded disney's
Do you like watching really boring DnD campaigns? Then go for it
I hate the moustache dog too much to recommend this movie to anyone
Isn't he the best part of the film tho?
No that's the horned king
Why did he hate being called a rat so much? He literally is one
I took it as being in denial of his class/true self. He tries so hard to be fancy, but he's barely hiding his real self. Not to say something horrible like "if you're lower class you're a monster," rather Ratigan has obvious anger issues (to the point of sadism) that he only tries to cover up instead of try to sort them out. Instead of acknowledging his flaws, his ego goes "no I'm like this instead all along and everyone else is wrong." Something like that.
Oh boy, here come the thread derailers
Thank God this didn't happen with the Bambi threads
miss the buck yet
Cute box art
No
Here's the japanese poster.
That is so damn cool
You now remember that every poster in this thread farts and poops several times a day. Some are doing it while they are posting.
OP probably pulled down his pants and passed big meaty burrito smelling shits three times since he woke up.
Bernard and Miss Bianca are such a cute couple, they're one of my favorite cartoon OTPs of all time honestly
The fact that such fluid animation was possible back then is amazing, this scene alone must have taken a whole day to animate
Another example of really fluid early animation I have is this, just look at how well Br'er Fox is animated
>that one Japanese Twitter artist who's in love with that fox
Its been maybe a decade since I actually saw this whole movie, do this jerk and the trafficker ever get their comeuppance?
They do not.
None of the villains in Pinocchio do, except maybe the whale.
Obviously non-canon, but you can throw the coachman off a cliff in the SNES game.
They do not and for good reason. People like the Coachman and Stromboli who prey on the naive, foolish and ignorant and seek to exploit them for their gain will always exist. That was the point of the movie and what it was warning audiences against.
Pinocchio has one of my favorite messages because of this. Wise up, have self respect, and don't let yourself be exploited by these forces. That's how you win against them.
It was telling kids that falling for the celebrity path will lead you to get exploited by a greedy puppetmaster who'll dump you as firewood as soon as you are not good for making him money anymore.
And the coachman was a warning against becoming a slave to pleasures and low stimulus. The kids in the Coachman's island weren't kidnapped, they chose to go there rather than focus on education and family. They smoked, drank lots of booze, ate nothing but junk, and engaged in antisocial crap like destroying property. They get turned into literal and metaphorical jackasses shipped to work in mines (metaphor for menial exploitative work) or the circus (exploitative entertrainment again) were they are going to be exploited by the greedy.
Becoming a real boy was a metaphor for becoming a wise and realized person who can't be easily exploited and people in society like the coachman and stromboli won't have power over you.
It's a very complex message I don't think you see around today, especially because many corporations (Disney included) want consumers they can exploit and make money of.
Very well-said, anon
Thanks, anon.
I hate the Coachman and Stromboli and what they represent, but I really think the movie letting them get away with it is more ballsy and true. I'd like to say they are like forces of nature, but they are more like "forces of society" and people not giving them money or agreeing to going to pleasure island is the way to beat them up.
I didn't hate Turning Red but I kept having the thought that the movie is an accidental anti-Pinocchio of sorts and it's telling the viewers that the urge that it's okay to go to Pleasure Island is good and necessary for you, "flaunting your Panda" (or making a jackass out of yourself) and exploiting yourself for money to hand it over to a modern day Stromboli who manages a boy band that will get dumped when they stop being lucrative is good too. But it's understandable because tiger Mom is cartoonishly insane and unreasonable and needs to be rebelled against.
This isn't necessarily a diss on Turning Red since I did like aspects of the film, just that it's interesting that a modern Disney movie had a completely opposite message to tell kids in today's day and age.
To me the message of Pinocchio rings more true still. Maybe even more now that before.
Turning Red being an anti-Pinocchio is a great way to put it.
I kinda hate that the movie basically does what you describe, promotes dissidence and misbehavior among younger teenage kids, telling the it's ok to go against the wishes of your parents, and engage in harmful lifestyles
It always made me sad that most people associate the Pleasure Island sequence with child trafficking (even if there are undertones) and miss out on the metaphor of what the island and turning into a jackass means.
I don't even want to bring TR as much in this thread because it does something to people on this board (hence the spoiler), but the Pinocchio comparison has been on my mind since I watched the film.
Different anon here, I think both films have their points. What I never see talked about is how the kid on Pleasure Island was supposedly meant to be Irish-American so him being left as a donkey for the rest of his life is as if it's no real loss
In what way does Pinocchio have selfrespect. He's not even comfortable with who he is (a doll) and wants to do anything to change into his "real self".
Pinocchio is an old school troony and his problem could have been avoided if he did like the character in Turning Red and accepted his life as a doll and loved himself for what he was.
He had no self-respect because he was acting like a moron. He was getting laughed at in Stromboli's theater.
He then acted like an antisocial idiot in Pleasure island. He was fine with punching people for no reason, vandalized and destroyed property and art, got drunk and smoke with a friend who didn't have his best interests in mind either. He even told his conscience to frick off so he could do self-destructive shit. That's epitome of having no self respect.
It's only when he realized his "friend" turned into a donkey that he saw it was going to happen to him and escaped the island. It's like the equivalent of going down a bad path with someone and seeing them die, or become a junkie, get involved with a gang, or going to jail. Things that make you touch rock bottom.
He didn't learn the lesson before with Stromboli because the Blue Fairy bailed him out with no real consecuences, but this time she was not there to help him, and he had to learn the lesson himself.
>He didn't learn the lesson before with Stromboli because the Blue Fairy bailed him out with no real consecuences
typical bad parents.
I think that was a little bit the point, the Blue Fairy only gave Pinocchio one intervention and that was it. He got away with a scare, but didn't really learn from the experience until Pleasure Island.
Him retaining the donkey ears and tail even after leaving the island now means he had to carry the consecuences of his actions. No Blue Fairy to remove them this time until he finally proves to be "brave, truthful, and unselfish" by telling the truth to his father and saving him from Monstro. Then the Blue Fairy finally rewards him
what? Turning Red is very pro-parents do you need children to be mindless drones for it to be pro-parents? they can and they should be capable of having an honest conversation with their parents if they want to become adults.
Mei literally tells her mom to "deal with it" when her mom expresses concern for her engaging in behaviors she deems to be degenerative
>Mei literally tells her mom to "deal with it" when her mom expresses concern for her engaging in behaviors she deems to be degenerative
stop being autistic
How they get that water effect I wonder? Moving glass in front of the camera?
I have rewatched some of these in the past, and I'm surprised by just how well The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh still holds up, from the talents behind the voices, the ingenious use of the book itself to have the characters jump from point to point, and interacting with the narrator. It's definitely one of the best Disney film from the "Bronze Age", if not the best in my opinion. The others, aside from The Great Mouse Detective and The Fox and the Hound to some extent, sadly don't hold up, especially the first and the last film of this era (Aristocats and Oliver & Co.) have been really underwhelming imho. Black Cauldron is more interesting in the intent than the execution, Rescuers has with Madame Medusa an impressive Milt Kahl in his last work at Disney (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scjNDGiwcPA), which, IIRC, was inspired from Marc Davis' work on Cruella de Vil (Which apparently, he was a little jealous of how amazing Davis animated her), but aside from that, nothing to write home about it. Robin Hood isn't bad if looked on its own, but kinda pales compared to other works from the same house.
>TL;DR
Winnie the Pooh > The Great Mouse Detective > The Fox and the Hound > Robin Hood > The Rescuers > The Black Cauldron > Aristocats > Oliver & Company
Thanks for reminding me The Great Mouse Detective exists. I need to go watch it again. Nothing could compare to it now.
aristocats is the best one
Robin Hood is good as a lazy Sunday movie and for furporn.
Looking it with any kind of critical eye shows its extremely flawed and you could even argue its unfinished
Cute gift.
D grade Disney.
These aren’t good, even with nostalgia.
Expect for Black Cauldron which is surprisingly dark for a Disney movie and stands out here.
What are your favorite Disney foxes?
I don't know more than half these buttholes
Favorite disney foxes though:
Todd & Vixey
Robin & Marion
Nick Wilde
4th on the top row is probably Foxy Loxy from Disney's 1943 Chicken Little short.
2nd on the bottom row is Honest John from Pinocchio.
4th on the bottom row is Brer Fox from Song of the South.
Not sure about the rest.
Characters
"honest" john foulfellow
br'er fox 159
fox (mary poppins)
foxy loxy (1943)
nick wilde
reynard (chanticleer and the fox)
robin hood
tod (fath)
The upper two characters are from America Sings (Disneyland ride, 1974-1988). They also appear on the ride's poster. After the ride closed, the animatronics were repurposed for Splash Mountain, with the fox in the green vest being a passenger on a riverboat. I don't know if they have any official names.
All of them, every Disney fox is best
Br'er Fox.
Based, he's a cutie
>Pure and Good
Jungle Book, Pooh
>Solid and Entertaining
Dalmatians, Mouse Detective
>Flawed but interesting
Black Cauldron
>Mid
Sword in the Stone, Robin Hood
>Badly aged
Aristocats, Fox and the Hound
>idk, I don't remember them that well
Rescuers, Oliver and Company
Only focusing on the 60s-80s, the budget years, most films up to Sleeping Beauty are on another level.
aged
>Aristocats, Fox and the Hound
how? they are comfy and have so much love in then
Aristocats felt like a bunch of inconsequential scenes jiggled in front of kids faces. Hated the cuteness for the sake of being cute. Really fricking hated the love story, that mother cat was way too enamored from the start, and should not have been so trusting of the strange street tabby around her kids. Borderline homewrecker propaganda.
Fox and the Hound also feels so small scale and inconsequential. Good movies are supposed to have scenes or setpieces that stick with you. This was just two puppies being gay in the woods.
>that mother cat was way too enamored from the start, and should not have been so trusting of the strange street tabby around her kids.
he has that thing women like, I was happy for her.
> Good movies are supposed to have scenes or setpieces that stick with you.
The final goodbye? the whole chase scene?
>he has that thing women like.
Would have made more sense if they took some scenes to highlight that appeal. All I saw was stock heroics and moonlight making eyes at each other.
From the beginning he's established as a drifter frickboy hiding a shady past/connections from the family, and there's no confrontation about it. I the viewer am never put at ease about this guy.
I may have to rewatch Fox and the Hound, but all I remember was stretched out melodrama. Character designs, backgrounds, colour pallet are all depressingly bleak. On-par with a lot of C-list 70s animators but not the Walt Disney company.
>From the beginning he's established as a drifter frickboy hiding a shady past/connections from the family
exactly
>Borderline homewrecker propaganda.
What? O'Malley was single and so was Duchess. He offered to help her get back home after she told him she was lost, and helped her children too, and took them under his wing as their stepfather. How can he be a homewrecker when Duchess wasn't even married?
How can you put Black Cauldron over Sword in the Stone?
Eilonwy is cuter than the human version of the squirrel girl
Aristocats is the most high IQ Disney movie
Please keep this going.
Don't worry, we won't let the thread die
Sure thing
OP here, sorry I was gone guys, I got to into a scuffle in another thread and got yeeted for a day
Now that I'm back, does anyone have any good places to find classic Disney merch? Cells, concept art, plushies, or anything? I've wanted to get my hands on some Rescuers stuff, as Disney sells basically nothing from that film anymore
Who are your favorite Mom characters from this era of films?
Someone already posted Mother Rabbit so I'll just reply to them
Kanga!
Kanga is such a good momma
She's probably one of the best
Oh shit, I just finished watching lady and the Tramp and I also want to talk about it. I really enjoyed this fight scene which reminded me of the fight scene in Bambi. I don't know why but they feel different from the fight scenes that I've seen in the renaissance disney films.
I like the scene where Tramp fights the rat as well
Lady and the Tramp is my favorite silver era film. The amount of time and work that it must've taken to animate dogs well when nobody else had done it (unless you count Disney themselves in some of their earlier stuff) is almost incredible to think about. Same goes for Bambi. It's a maximum level of dedication to films as an art.
>"hey should we make a normal movie? Nah, let's study animals for months and figure out how to do that instead."
Hi, OP. I lurked that Bambi threat, it was genuinely comfy. The Great Mouse Detective is a perfect movie in my opinion. But because of that I never know what to say about it. I also like both Rescuers movies and Oliver and Company. I remember thinking the Fox and the Hound was good but I can't handle a tearjerker these days. Got to rewatch Winnie the Pooh, I liked the TV series as a kid but saw the movie when I was really little. I still haven't seen the Black Cauldron.
OP here
Glad to hear it was comfy, probably one of the more comfy threads here as well. I agree on that, GMD is one of the best Disney films, yet it gets like, barely any attention, same with a lot of Bronze-age films. I'm unsure if it's because they're more obscure or what, but I'd love to see them give movies like The Rescuers and Oliver and Company more attention
How did they get away with making dogs attractive
Anon, it's just a cartoon dog
Yeah but she cute
that Swedish archive anon here:
After plenty of hurdles like my scanner disconnecting a lot, it's finally complete.
The rare and obscure book "Justice for Disney" by long-time animator Bill Justice is finally here.
https://mega.nz/folder/Z4VjVQSa#UIJJTbVHqDJXmZOD10jwrg
Enjoy and have fun.
Going to check this out, thanks anon!
Whoah thanks, anon
Quality content right here
What is the book about? I wanna read but I'd like to know the premise
here is the back of the book
Interesting, might give this a read
Nice!
Really interesting anon
I wish I had a gf like Miss Bianca bros
Man I never realized how squishy their cheeks are, especially Bernard
One of my favorite "chubby" characters from any media
Thumper has such squishable cheeks
I hope you mean his face, satan
Of course I mean his face
draw them fricking
Post cute moments from these movies
Bambi and the Great Prince's relationship midway and through the rest of Bambi 2 is so wholesome and cute, wish I had something like that growing up
I want to watch an old Disney movie but I can't decide what one. I missed out on so many but I'm not well and Bambi's mom will probably make me cry. I cried at Dumbo and Snow White when I saw them for the first time. I THOUGHT SHE SLEPT HOW DID I NOT REALIZE IT WAS A METAPHOR FOR DEATH
I recommend The Rescuers first. It's very good and not a sad movie, but the intro song might make ya cry, because it is melancholic as Hell
I agree with
but even moreso I recommend The Great Mouse Detective, it's a lot of fun with great pacing. Isn't even long either.
Glad this thread is still going
Yeah feels good
i cry every time
Bambi... Had a hard life
Only for a little while. Once his Father learned how to be a proper Father, things got better for him
I wanna scratch behind Bambi's ears
Bambi and the little Squirrel
Is that a storybook?
Yup
Oh neat, I've never seen that one
I found and bought it from a second hand store today. I also found this one.
How popular are movies like Bambi and stuff in Scandinavia? I heard a lot of the older Disney films like that are pretty popular there, but idk if the Bronze-age films are
In the 90's and 2000's there were a fair share Bambi stuff and merch from other movies like Aristocats, Robin Hood, The Rescuers and The Great Mouse Detective. Bambi and other's has faded away nowadays because of Frozen and that movie takes up like 95% of all Disney merch here.
We still have the Donald Duck comics and Disney Princesses and whatnot. The only Bambi stuff nowadays are a few plushies, birthday cards and girl clothes.
I also have this retro backpack and bed set.
>Frozen and that movie takes up like 95% of all Disney merch here.
Well of course, Frozen does take place in Scandinavia apparently
Also, nice! I'd kill yo have retro stuff like that
Oh my. I was just browsing through my Chip 'n Dale comic collection one more time and I found the source of this pic.
>Well of course, Frozen does take place in Scandinavia apparently.
huh... well that explains it.
Dawww that's pretty sweet!
here is the comic. unfortunately I can't find the English one but the basic plot of this comic is that Chip and Dale decides to check out an amusement park.
Looks like this one:
https://inducks.org/story.php?c=D++6838
Its only English release appears to be in some UK magazine that I'm not familiar with. I'm guessing nobody's scanned it. Everyone focuses on US releases, and a lot of exclusively-UK comics seem to get no scans (especially if they're older).
Different anon but I bought this for my luggage last year and they're both cute and handy. Interestingly they were in the regular big pharmacy, the disney stores are dying out in my country.
Cute!
Would love to get my hands on that
Here it is if you live in the UK https://www.boots.com/mad-beauty-disney-bambi-wash-bags-set-of-2-10292958?cm_mmc=bmm-buk-google-ppc-_-LIAs-_-Catch_All-_-UK_Smart_Shopping_LIAs_Catch_All&gclid=CjwKCAjwk_WVBhBZEiwAUHQCmUpA6L2fUd7woivvoBi8TvsJKc-BQm8y9nLqGgAWMCxJp-vFOuP6CBoCAV8QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Thanks, I'll check it out
Flower looks a bit odd here
>thread near the bottom
Don't let it be over yet
I wish we got Through the Looking glass as an animated DVD sequel
Someone may have asked this but how popular is Disney and general animated content in Sweden? I heard Moomin is a household name in not just Sweden, but in all of Scandinavia, but I'm not 100% sure how true that is
Moomin is super popular here and is still going strong even to this day. The creator Tove Jansson was born in Finland but grew up in Sweden because of Finland's war with the Soviets. She would later return when the war was over.
Disney is also pretty popular here. every Christmas at 3 pm we watch the "All of Us to All of You" special on television.
When it comes to Swedish animation, well... there is not a lot. Animated movies have never been a big industry here in Sweden. There is only a small handful of people that have tried and succeeded. The most notable being Per Åhlin who made movies such as Resan till Melonia (The Journey to Melonia), Hundhotellet (The Dog Hotel) and Sagan om Karl-Bertil Jonssons Julafton (The story of Karl-Bertil Jonssons Christmas).
Woah, are there subs for this? This looks wild.
here is the full movie.
https://vimeo.com/174641305
no English dub or subs from what know. might exist somewhere out there (and higher quality).
Damn it. My life isn't long enough to learn every language, I wish I could. Thank you anyway, anon.
Oh shit nevermind what I said, subs are on youtube! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2zp4Hgn0z5M
Duolingo ain't worth it, it does the old app trick of tricking you into using it every day, not necessarily that it makes you improve. I was guilty of repeating the easiest lessons just to keep the streak up. I gotta find some good in-person classes sometime.
Oh that's great! Enjoy and have fun!
Ah that sucks, guess I gotta focus more on my Swedish classes on Duolingo then, huh?
Thanks for the link, though!
Ah interesting. I should watch Moomin, but I really don't wanna be involved in the Moomin fanbase because for some reason, Gen Z tiktok stan wierdos and tumblrites really like it for some reason
Seconded, always like finding out about European animation that otherwise goes unnoticed elsewhere in the world
I never understood why people like that enjoy Moomin so much. Is it because it's cutesy and inoffensive? If that's the case, you'd think the fanbase would be more diverse
>cutesy and inoffensive
Maybe the '90s anime and the recent CGI adaptation, but the books, the comics, and the stop motion series are far from cutesy and inoffensive. About half of the novels get depressing and meditative.
Wtf is that thing?
My wife.
Is there anywhere you can read the comics? And by that mean all of them?
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Moomin-The-Complete-Tove-Jansson-Comic-Strip
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Moomin-The-Complete-Lars-Jansson-Comic-Strip
Thank you very much! Also, I shouldn't have stayed up watching Melonia because now it's 4am, but I enjoyed it. I really liked the wacky designs of the fantastical plants and how some of the darker imagery wasn't afraid to get downright unsettling. Ariel and the magic itself had some really fun animation that I didn't expect. Only thing I'd say is moral aside, no need to lose the magic in the end! Magic is fun, dangit! But yeah, in general, movies that end with that feeling of you wanting to know more are pretty special. Thank you for mentioning it!
Dane here. I feel like streaming services in general has sort of hurt the love for animated content.
When I grew up in the early 90s the big public tv channels had an hour or two a day where they just broadcasted cartoons for the kids in the morning. So there was a lot of Danish dubbed tv shows from a variety of sources like moomin, Disney afternoon or anime. And there was content from ages 0-12/14-ish
Now with streaming services having taken over I find that the only animated content is either Disney content or content fro the smallest of children. It's been kind of sad watching the animation/dubbing industry only having Disney or toddler content left.
Disney is still popular, and I mean hugely.
Since 1992, every Friday from 7:00-8:00 p.m. The Disney Afternoon has been airing. Pretty much since 1967 on the 24th of december (pre-1991 the date varied between the 23rd, 24th, 25th & 26th) From All of Us to All of You have been airing.
Jakob Stegelmann has been the main man behind Disney on Danish television. He was the on launching The Disney Afternoon (or Disney Sjov) on Danish television and is the one in charge of negotiating with Disney regarding that and From All of Us to All of You.
He says it was hard to launch it in 1992 as parents felt that an hour of tv with just cartoons would not be good for children. Today however with Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network and Streaming services, Disney Sjov is essentially the only content for Danish children that manages to pull a decent number of ratings on the biggest Danish television channel.
In 1999 Disney Sjov went on a break because Disney and Danish Broadcast Radio could not agree on the price. But after only four months and a massive outcry from television viewers a compromise was made.
From All of Us to All of You also still pulls viewers even after all these years. In 2020 1.3 million viewers watched it when it aired (in a country of 5.8 million).
I don't understand the hate for Oliver and Company.
For the Bronze Age films, as a kid, I watched all of them. I loved The Great Mouse Detective and don't understand why Disney shuns it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it and it's safe Disney material with classic literature Sherlock Holmes and animated mice, their forte.
However, the Black Cauldron does not stick in my mind at all. I remember being terrified of the villain, understandably, and must have blocked out all the lighter elements in it. I rewatched it again on whim when I was a teen and I still don't remember it outside an early scene where the kids are talking. I'm about ready to try and watch it again but I have no idea if it's going to retain in my memory this time.
I think there is honestly something to making a children's movie too dark, where it either feels like a nightmare you remember forever or you tune it out, like I did. The brain doesn't want to remember dark skeleton lords.
Out of all the Early, Silver, and Bronze-age Disney films, which are your guy's favorites? I've seen a few posters list theirs. but I'd like to see more
I liked this movie
>the fox and the hound
>has almost nothing to do with the the fox and the hound book but rather steals basically all of its story from another foxhunting book from the same time period but transfers the story from england to america
What are you referring to?
I'M STILL HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Treasure Planet is such an underrated film
I'm not really one to cry out for sequels but TP2 is one of the few I really wish happened
tfw moronic outrage threads get attention and not this
>pic
Is that Mr. J?
Maybe
Sad
>LOVE IS A SONG THAT NEVER ENDS
G-G-Good thread
It really is
Funny that Disney kinda had the idea of making a cinematic universe at some point.
That would have been quite interesting
God Bernard and Bianca are so cute, Bernard is such a chubby cutie
Really? Did they make any other concept art?
The animators behind the movie thought that the villain from the book could be retooled into being Cruella so they made concept art of her with a new look.
Ah ok, interesting
Bernard is so hot
Love the overweight cuties
Agreed
This was a fine thread, we should do it another time. Maybe not having a thread up all the time but something like making one per month or something like that.
OP here, I might see about making one in a week or two, hope the anons that posted here will show up for it. But I might do it a day or two after it's archived, idk
can't wait until the next one. ty for such a comfy thread OP
Np, the two Bambi ones I did prior were also very comfy, but I'm unsure if the next one will be for general discussion of the classics or themed around a specific movie. We shall see