while universal failed to set dark universe, other producers are making own monster movies because these are public domain so no copyrights are needed. it's not just a coincidence. these are in works or producton:
>deltoro 'frankenstein'
>apple 'bride'
>netflix 'bride of frankenstein'
>universal postponed 'bride of frankenstein'
>universal doing another 'dracula' and 'draculas daughter'
>eggers 'nosferatu'
>now postponed 'mina harker' movie from miramax
>more monster movies coming
it looks like universals dreams of dark universe may happen even if their own dark universe failed
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Whatever. Monsters are still better than capeshit. Also Mina Harker movie is just postponed, it's completely scrapped.
I mean isn't just postponed. They completely scrapped it, not going to happen.
You are right, my bad. But there are still other movies to come.
>Monsters are still better than capeshit.
Not if they turn the monster movies INTO capeshit, which is exactly what Renfield was.
Haven't seen it. Looked like a generic action comedy. Even The Mummy had a bit of gothic atmosphere.
This. It will just be a different flavor of capeshit.
>nosferatu
Are we really allowing this antisemitism?
If Hollywood was actually smart then they would do versus movies instead of adaptations of the same stories for the umpteenth time. Books from the 19th Century aren't scary by modern standards, and frankly the original Frankenstein and Dracula stories are corny in some ways. Nearly every movie that adapted them already took extreme creative liberties. A Frankenstein vs Dracula movie would be more appealing that a straight remake just for the zaniness of it.
That was the idea of Darkverse but apparently people didn't like the concept of Wolfman vs Mummy and Dracula vs Invisible Man. Shame, I wanted to see this shit.
Also, believe or not, real Baron von Frankenstein died fighting real Vlad Dracul Tepes.
I'd love those monsters to be popular because I feel at home with classic genre cinema. And some of that are popular but not necessarily classic monsters like from Universal.
They want to make standalone films and then Dark Army crossover.
Yeah but everyone already knows who Dracula, Frankenstein, etc. are, so it's not like they need their own standalone origin story movies. Other characters like the Mummy are more flexible, since multiple individual mummies have represented the titular "Mummy" over the years.
Awesome image.
I'd much rather have more adaptations, assuming they strove for fidelity and didn't butcher the stories like Hammer's Dracula and Coppola's.
I thought Coppola's version was supposedly one of the most "faithful" adaptations even though it's embellished with a lot of added stuff. The problem with Bram Stoker's novel is that it's more interesting at the beginning than it is at the end. Frankenstein and Dracula were both written in that dated epistolary format decades before movies were even a thing. Filmmakers have to take liberties with the stories to make them coherent and entertaining with modern movie conventions. Even the oldest adaptations from the 20s and 30s play out better onscreen than if they had been completely faithful to the original books.
Coppolas main problem is Dracula himself. He is not intimidating. Its dark romance with no real tension and scares. Nice looking film but empty shell.
Hammer films altered too much but Dracula is almost like Stoker's one. Tall, spooky, sort of ugly but elegant and evil to the core.
Dracula as a tragically romantic character is not true to Stoker but I'd be ok with it if Mina didn't also fall in love with him. At the end she stays with Jonathan out of obligation.
Nothing about film as a medium mandated Coppola's movie to revolve around a goofy, unconvincing love story. It isn't just embellished; it completely changes the focus and texture of the story. If modern movie conventions mandate shoving teen idols into bad romance plots, then do somethng else entirely. Likewise, if Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman: The Hackening is our lone course, they shouldn't even bother. We have enough garbage with these characters.
Ironically, the very funny Dracula Dead and Loving It does follow the novel a bit and has one of the best Renfields of all time
>IM CAAMIN MASTAARR
The great Peter MacNicol in one of his best roles
They should adapt this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vampyre
For those who haven't watched it, Ken Russel's Gothic is a great depiction w/ fantastic elements of the night in which both Polidori and Mary Shelley created their respective vampire/Frankenstein plots
Universal image of Dracula as a rich playboy comes from this. Dracula isn't like this in the novel.
Dracula in the novel is a creepy old guy with a mustache who is kinda sneaky and can do some superhuman feats like crawling on walls and transforming into animals or vapor.
One of movies with Christopher Lee features Dracula with book accurate mustache.
Found it. COUNT DRACULA from 1970. Looks right.
In Bram Stoker's novel he comes across as one of those somewhat recluse old money aristocrats
You are asking for capeshit.
The dark universe isn't dead. They dropped shared connections and reshaped it into a thematic cinematic universe. Next film releases this week.
>Sailing into theatres on the 11th of August, 2023, The Last Voyage of the Demeter and its trailer promise to be impressive and maybe the horrifying break that Universal needs to start its Dark Universe properly.
They tried this in the 00s and it failed. Nothing is going to replace capeshit. It's here forever.
How are they the next big trend? They're penny dreadful characters. Kids don't watch old movies and monster boomers are dying out.
Big monsters might be still a thing because they're not as closely connected to a specific setting like gothic horror monsters are to for example 19th century European aesthetics
>so many shitty monster movies that have been done to death
>no Lovecraft kino
Sad
Are they going to expand on this classic monster?
I think Chloe Zhao is directing a Dracula movie as well. And there's the DC Swamp Thing though this isn't technically one of the classic monsters
They tried invigorating the campy monster meme movies with millennials with Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter and Pride, Prejudice and Zombies but it didn't catch on.
somebody makes a new frankenstein every 5 or 10 or 15 years.