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frida episode?? i wanna stare at her
I don't care any more. This season has killed all my interest in this series. There may be another season yet to come but it doesn't matter. The Clone High people wanted isn't coming back. It's dead.
this
clone high lost it's charm, it's artstyle hell it's even lost it's cultural relevancy now that it has to play catch up with 2020's culture
Never have I been more disappointed in my entire life
I wanna say they get frozen again and next season picks up 20 years in the future but that would be too clever for nu-Clone High
Hopefully they cancel Season 3 because man this show is a trainwreck
Topher is gonna drop an n bomb in the last episode isn't he?
He tried to say that women shouldn't wear makeup, but he got shouted down.
I thought he was about to say pants.
Why did they burn through the season so fast?
Because there's two seasons.
Plus the modern thing for show to do is make 8 to 10 episode seasons.
So 3 episodes less than s1
Remember before the show was released a bunch of concept art was posted on artists portfolios.
This has not happened yet
>This has not happened yet
It literally says Season 2 Episode 10 at the top. Can you not read production codes?
It was posted before the episode went live
gandhi will come back
Any rough time estimates on the new episodes?
They will kill Topher cementing the show as shit.
eyerolls aside i've been enjoying the ride so far, but depending on how this season ends i am SO ready to memoryhole this and pretend it never came back
>hopes
gandhi is back and is voiced by michael mcdonald
its revealed cleo was only interested in frida because frida's the current popular girl, frida rejects her
jfk and cleo get back together, we get more jerk jock jfk and alpha b***h cleo
topher reveals he's actually gay for abe, he stopped abe from telling joan about his feelings because he wants abe all to himself
abe and joan finally frick, but abe is let down by it and decides to just stay friends with joan, but joan loved it and has re-developed her crush on abe and goes back to silently pining for him
>hope nots
gandhi stays frozen, maybe even gets accidentally pushed over and shatters
cleo is fully invested in frida and they become perfect lesbian lovers
topher says more off-color things in a clear attempt to make him unlikable, but he's still too funny to hate so it backfires
abe never tells joan how he feels, joan lets her attraction to abe fade away, they remain friends but it's weird and awkward and terrible and no one likes it
they better not
he's the best new character by fricking far
>cleo is fully invested in frida and they become perfect lesbian lovers
That's based tho
kys
>cleo is fully invested in frida and they become perfect lesbian lovers
This is likely, theyre going that direction already with the sex health episode
>abe never tells joan how he feels, joan lets her attraction to abe fade away, they remain friends but it's weird and awkward and terrible and no one likes it
this is going to happen just a bit longer cause i think this would be resolved as a season finale or be a prolonged issue like in the old series
>topher reveals he's actually gay for abe, he stopped abe from telling joan about his feelings because he wants abe all to himself
this would be really funny but i dont know if the showrunners are that clever to realized this and have Abe have the conflict with this
i find it really weird and oddly satisfying that even the most twitterbrained fans like topher so much. like, damn, if topher appeals to everyone even the most “woke” and /misc/acks alike they should’ve kept more of the characters unlikable weirdos. like they were in the first season.
Power vacuum
No ghandi to laugh at
No jerk jfk to be the butthole
I've been enjoying it and I'm hype for the last few!
why the frick is nu joan so bad?
no longer a virgin
smoothed forehead
>season finale
>threads completely dead
numbers aren't looking good
we know it ends with them frozen in space based on the leaks
it’s up.
oh my god they brought Gandhi back
don't you fricking lie to me
a fake post
a real post
Well that was a letdown.
The episodes or the season?
Don't answer, I already know you mean both.
This entire season feels like fanfiction. It has just enough “almost right but not quite” characterization that every fanfic has.
It also misses the point of the show and tries to "fix it" like fanfics tend to do.
gandhi mention
wooooo
interesting cliffhanger i guess
>jfk giving abe permission to date joan
for the love of god… nobody wants them together
JFK is just trying to be a bro, he really is the best of the original clones
More like you're missing the point, Abe and Joan are a parody of the constant "will they won't they" of these shows
A parody can become into the thing is mocking
>parody
S2 isn't a parody. It's straightforward and that's why it sucks. Take a look at the teenagers on the Clone High subreddit, they love the new season and talk about the characters like they're real people.
>last 2 episodes of the season
>The 2 best episodes of the season
pretty based
10 whole episodes of nothing but virtual diarrhea, jesus christ
"Hey prostitute, thanks for the prostitute job. Here's 6 dollars.'
"But we agreed on 8 dollars and a hug..."
>season finale drops
>only 14 posts about it in the span of nearly 2 hours
we did it guys. clone high is BACK.
IT'S OVER
>next season everyone hates joan
are they just gonna pick on a new og character every season
may-guh?
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That's all for now. As usual, mini-encodes are also up.
many blessings upon you
is this a magnet?
It's a MEGA link that you're supposed to decode with base64, Wesleyyyy...
oh, I guess i'll wait then
Stupid, newbie, moron.
The guy spoonfed you when really he should've gatekept the frick outta you.
>spoonfed
>still cant figure out how the frick to do things
lmao
stupid
fricking
idiot
never give info to someone than cant figure stuff out
only time can remove the stupid
My expectations were low and I'm still disappointed. Frick this reboot and everyone who is involved, I'm not even going to bother with season 3.
just as the clone state prophecy foretold, jfk and abe becoming bros is pure kino
why am i even supposed to be rooting for joan and abe? lots of teen dramas have romantic pairings that aren’t the characters’ first loves
Episode 9 is the best episode of the entire season and is easily S1 tier in terms of quality
That's my favorite one too. The best part is how it surprisingly fits Mr. B despite being obvious retcons done for laughs.
Ep 10 was just fricking god awful
HBOmax killed so much just to make trash.
How would you anons fix this pile of shit?
I thought EP10 was hilarious
9 and 10 are the 2 best episodes in the new season
First and foremost? The new characters. Drop em. I get the idea of contrasting Clones of 03 with zoomers today but the cast felt overstuffed, and none of the characters new or old really felt like they got enough spotlight. Second, bring Ghandi back and just make him Gary Coleman. This option was such an obvious fix that frankly I think the real reason he was cut was the writers thought he was too 'problematic'. Third, actually write a cohesive plotline for the season. And lastly, Clone High is a comedy so I think it'd pay to WRITE SOME GOOD FRICKING JOKES
Amen,
> first
I agree, should`ve kept it small overall and just made it all 03 vs 23. OG had 7 main characters to give enough time to, but this season had 11 and had them all over the place.
> second
Just include him period, who the frick is gonna starve themselves in front of Vacom 20 years later?
I think they actually said in a interview they didn't want a repeat of what happened last time, so yeah a lot dumber than him being too problematic.
> third
OG had 13 and this one was only working with 10, oh it also wasn't written like an over the top teen drama from the 2000s, so instead they all go full moron and just make JFK and Joan frick for 2/3 of the season, frick over abe for his sins of last season, and show off all the NEW characters and include them is so many haha funny stuff that would`ve alright if they didn't make them all so FRICKING UGLY.
> last
The jokes throughout it were hit or miss, but god damn the whole thing felt like the writers struggling to get back into the roles, and new writers were just unable to make it work for a modern audience.
i thought that they were going to reveal ghandi was wesley
Don't sissify the show.
JFK became “precious sexual himbo” when he was a controversial and idiotic douchebag.
The show became Joan’s love story, the main plot was about her with zero plots like Ghandi goes to jail.
The show became a girly Disney sitcom with swears and gore. They added 2 girls and 2 boys, but in the end it was just adding 2 girls to co-protagonize with Joan as her bffs. Confucius was barely there, and Topher got much less.
Cleo became useless for major part of the season.
Frida is just “the cool & chill girl /B^)”, she added nothing except turning herself as a beta lesbian near the end.
Harriet is the worst, she’s just “too pressured girl”, her character fits more for a one-off rather than a recurring cast member.
And what’s with the controversy? They only insulted white males for a song and a 1 minute gag that lead to nowhere.
This show feels like an average teenage girl sitcom rather than anything related to a comedy about historic figures interacting together. You can copy-paste this season’s writing into a generic human cast, and nothing will feel off.
>Frida is just “the cool & chill girl /B^)”, she added nothing except turning herself as a beta lesbian near the end.
>Harriet is the worst, she’s just “too pressured girl”, her character fits more for a one-off rather than a recurring cast member.
You can literally reduce every character to simple terms
>Abe is just the straight man
>Joan is just the girl next door
>Cleo is just the alpha b***h
morons like you are the worst. I noticed this phrase about a character "needing to be there" but it's literally just some bullshit you pull out of your ass whenever you want to give an explanation that doesn't sound as reactionary as "I don't want minorities in my show" go frick yourself you disingenuous homosexual
Shit take trips
(you) missed the actual point.
Reducing the character to basic terms isn't the problem, but doing NOTHING actually interesting with such simple characters. Simplicity was used so great in the original season.
>but doing NOTHING actually interesting with such simple characters. Simplicity was used so great in the original season.
It was used the exact same way here; you're just an old good new bad, gay
>It was used the exact same way here; you're just an old good new bad, gay
My brother in Christ one of my fav cartoons was released just three years ago, i don't mind new stuff, as far as it's GOOD new stuff.
>Don't have a character's entire personality be reduced to, "I'm in a relationship"
>Lean harder into the early 2000s tean drama satire with much more specific examples. Tell the zoomers working on this show to turn on Dawson's Creek and just start mocking the show for material.
>The new characters are all awful and are just random character archetypes attached to historical figures. With Joan it made sense that she's a tomboy or JFK makes since that he's a horny jock, why is Harriet Tubman obsessed with being famous? Why is Confucius a rich kid obsessed with social media?
I'd argue with Confucius it's riffing on how the original Confucius was a philosopher that spoke of (for the time) old world values that grew up in poverty, and Clone Confucius is a shallow unmotivated trendchaser from money
>Tell the zoomers working on this show to turn on Dawson's Creek and just start mocking the show for material.
honestly yeah from what i’ve seen zoomers don’t even understand what references the show is making or what the show is parodying. they just enjoy it anyway because that’s what happens when you have good writing. who knew?
>zoomers working on this show
People in their 30s are working on the show, moron. Your problem is with millennials.
Let's get this out of the way
>Unfunny
>Poorly written characters
>Plots come and go out of nowhere
Just the episode structure is both wierd as frick and nothing like the original show
Like the everyone becomes Cleo episode, not only doesn't fit the show but if they did it in season 1 nobody would have noticed it happening and then it would solve itself because that's what makes sense for this show, clone high isn't a villain of the week Disney sitcom, it has its own style
Also the joke was that conflicts didn't get resolved, season two had one conflict resolution for almost every episode, that kind of pacing sucks, if you are going to introduce conflict to immediately solve it why introduce conflict at all?
well I loved it wesley.
These frickers knew how to emulate hand-drawn animation this whole time, but they didn't want to
budgets are a thing. i'm not excusing the show's looks, it's pretty jank at times. but clearly this season was on a budget.
Clearly, they needed to spend more money to produce Butlertron lore
I mean if they had to throw money at anything this season, why the frick not. It's more deserving than any of the shit going on in the main plot.
I wish we could've gotten more guy-focus episodes.
Scudworth fans are going to go insane with this design
Episode 9 was honestly pretty good
pancake nipples
Brought to you by Phil & Chris or Erica
Need more Sacagawea
Sacowea tu abuela
Another cancellation hopefully .
Sorry buddy, Season 3 is coming.
And then cancellation.
yeah and some moron anon spoiled that finale too if you were there for that thread
I wasn't there to see the moronation unfold
It didn't get much attention because the post got deleted, but basically, the Cloney Island plan will happen. Scudworth won.
huh... so season 3 will be an even bigger shit show. Can't wait.
i also missed the moronation. what happens?
not gonna post the photo but you can find it in the archive:
>Frick it I'm gonna post season 3 spoilers even though season 2 only just came out. The last episode of season 3 is called "Cloney Island" where all the clones make their own theme park on an island. Have fun wondering what the context is for the next 2 years
SEASON 3'S GONNA TAKE 2 YEARS? Jesus Christ, I don't even know if HBO Max will live that long
It won't, it will release in 2024.
this caught me completely off-guard
Funniest part of the season imo
Agreed but still miss my boy Ghandi.
Also episode nine is good but not as a everyone says it is.
Also the best episode imo was the play one.
Also Columbus character is hilarious
They're never gonna have Cleo acknowledge what happened between her and Abe at prom are they?
Definitely not, that would also require Cleo to be in character again, which won't happen.
It's over abecleo sisters hold me...
Cleo was done dirty this season. I swear some writer has a personal vendetta against her.
>Joan will be the one getting shit on next season
Yes. Good.
Cleo and Frida are so fricking boring together
The problem is they're opposites of each other but they don't play into it, so it's just weird. They just say Cleo and her are alike when that's not the case at all.
I hate to say it but maybe that old cliche of rivals to lovers could have worked better here. It is clone high, the joke was supposed to be that they made fun of angsty tropes, so that could have worked. But this season felt oddly sincere in a way that's against the show's main humor.
Them coming together should have been a big deal but literally no one commented on it
Should have happened at the beginning of the season instead of the whole season focusing mainly on Joan's relationship drama
What a waste of time this season was
The big problem with Frida is that the show seems to have a very genuine problem with jokes at her expense. In any given situation except the crush, she's the cool collected and awesome one who knows exactly what she's doing
We only really had one episode of them together, and half of that was taken up by Joan.
WHAT IS HER FRICKING PROBLEM
The head smoothening she got between season did a number on her
They smoothed her brain.
She is growing into the psychotic violent schizo french woman she was aways meant to be
would be a pretty bayzed direction for the show to go
This will be the actual S3 finale
The historical jokes were always so good. The Grassy Knoll being my favorite gag.
Rate the new clones
>Frida 4/10
>Harriet 5/10
>Topher 2/10
>Confucius 1/10
What a miss! Do better next season HACKS
obvious bait, we all know that topher's a 10/10
Frida 2/10
Harriet 4/10
Confucius 5/10
Topher 8/10
Candied sucks too. I hate her fingers, the pointless lizard thing feels like someone on the staff just liked lizards, and she makes all of Scudworth’s plots lamer now.
>Frida
Lame, flat & plain.
3/10
>Harriet
Random girl, nothing you’d associate with someone special, literally a generic girl.
1/10
>Topher
Only good addition, too bad he was shelved so much just to get turned into a lame love triangle.
8/10 —> 5/10
>Confucius
Useless, should have only appeared in the Cleo episode and spend the rest in the background.
3/10
How is everyone rating Frida higher than Harriet? Harriet at least had notable comedic flaws in her character going for her while Frida was just the writer's pet who never took a single L
It's like the people who like Jackie better than janna in star vs
they both suck
Jackie's hot. That's the difference.
>How is everyone rating Frida higher than Harriet?
Her design is better.
Frida has the cliche personality of being laid back/cool, while nothing amazing it feels much better than the all over the place Harriet personality that somehow feels bland and just a boring self insert. Besides Harriet redesign is also the worst of them all.
Because anons want to FRICK Frida.
>Harriet at least had notable comedic flaws in her character going for her
She's boring. Her flaws have nothing to do with the historical Harriet Tubman.
>Frida
Was a 5 at the start but went to 2/10. She's just so boring and I'm not even bothered with her dyking it out with Cleo, that's how dull and uninteresting she is (and Cleo).
>Harriet
Worst of the new clones for me at the beginning but imo the later episodes improved her a bit for me so 1 > 5/10
>Topher
The only one of the new clones that is good-ish, but his limited screentime and being used as another obstacle to stop Abe and Joan being together kinda lowered him for me. 8 > 6/10
>Confucius
5/10, he's ok, I like his friendship with jfk (and abe) but he suffers the same problem as the rest of the new cast, he's boring.
>Frida
1/10
>Harriet
1/10
>Topher
6.5/10
>Confucius
8.5/10
Sexist
>Frida
Started at like 6/10 and only got worse as the season went on. I like her design but her character has nothing beyond “I’m chill”, would have liked to see them experiment with her “chill” tolerance more besides falling for Cleo
>Harriet
2/10, awful design and pretty bland personality. There were hints of a more manic character but they never really built on them, save for the Twister play which was just Joan being moronic until she hits the breaking point
>Topher
6/10, feels like they never really settled on what to do for him (or any of the clones really but he stands out given there’s more emphasis). I think it would have been funnier if he actually was like an unapologetic social justice warrior that felt compelled to make up for being a clone of Columbus and genuinely put a lot of effort towards helping minorities whenever he could, only for them to be lukewarm about it, thereby causing him to keep trying harder while going “woe is me, I can never make up for all the sins of my clone father” even though nobody really cares
>Confucius
4/10, I don’t mind his design but he didn’t really do much. I think the whole “blackmailing Abe with a video” subplot could have worked better with him since he was always chasing ways of getting social media clout and going viral and it could have provide a unique dynamic with him being Abe’s friend early on only to turn on him when he holds the cards. As it is he just sort of exists, there’s not much to him
>Frida: 5/10
Basically zero flaws or interesting quirks, but a decent VA with some decent delivery and an OK character design. Her love with Cleo could've genuinely worked, but they haven't done anything with it.
>Harriet: 3/10
Shit goal, no consistent character traits, very neurotic, and probably the worst design of the new clones, but at least her VA is interesting
>Confucius: 4/10
Terrible design, horrible character trope of a rich zoomer influencer, especially since the rich kid thing only comes up in the second half of the season, but VA is also good and I like his facial expressions
>Topher: 6.5/10
Great concept for the clone of a hated historical figure to be shit on, but the problem is that they never really let him be a character. He's just a plot point. Of all the new clones though, he's the only one with a design that matches the original style. His VA is pretty good too.
>Harriet
>Shit goal
I thought that was the point. She’s a dumb teen who wants to do dumb teen things. It feels like the crew had the right idea, but they just couldn’t come up with anything funny to do with it.
>no consistent character traits
Harriet was pretty consistent about having cliché teen desires like being noticed by a talent scout or having a boyfriend going into college.
Fricking awful design, yes, but I appreciate that you gave the VAs some recognition. They did the best with the material they were given.
>I thought that was the point. She’s a dumb teen who wants to do dumb teen things.
Sure, but my problem is that it takes up way too much time, and it leaves her character feeling dry. Abe in the first season wanted to become a good leader like his clone father, but it was only focused on in like two episodes.
>It feels like the crew had the right idea, but they just couldn’t come up with anything funny to do with it
This too. There's nothing funny coming out of it.
>Harriet was pretty consistent about having cliché teen desires like being noticed by a talent scout or having a boyfriend going into college
Yeah, but it's played seriously. And it's not interesting. So I don't care.
>the VAs did the best with the material they were given
Yeah, that's the silver lining, I guess.
>Frida 2/10
>Harriet 2/10
>Confucius 7/10
>Topher 8/10
I think I can't even really have an opinion on the season and on the characters, 10 episodes just isn't much and it feels like Joan had 80% of the screentime
I give this season a 7.5/10 compared to Season 1’s 9/10. Not as consistently funny, but still plenty of solid laughs.
ngl i didn’t expect so much drama and artstyle changed from a simple butler robot
oyea also i wonder how nicky sullivan’s gonna make it thru next season after all that
So whats the cliff hanger this time?
the board of shadowy figures are all dead, but more importantly, everyone hates Joan now.
So what? Where's the cliffhanger?
The cliffhanger is that there is another season, where, presumably, more events will occur.
Yeah since they knew another season would be on the way they didn't bother with a more dramatic cliffhanger like S1.
Presumably S3 will have a dramatic one again.
which one?
>joan! you're going to be the next world leader!
>this is your destiny gurl!
why did this season take such a hard turn into female writing. they even did that shit animaniacs did with the new female character in charge
It wasn't immediately obvious with the writer's room joke early on?
It sounds more and more like Joan was written to be a self insert for the fans who liked her by putting more emphasis on her but it completely misses the point and everyone else takes a backseat. It's so weird.
women are natural-born narcissists.
Titty eyes.
I like it 🙂
I seriously thought Clone College was about to be real.
So why did they wipe Ghandi from everyone's memory?
Operation Spread Eagle was about having all of the Clones unknowingly compete against each-other to become Ruler of the World.
My best guess is that the new Board saw all the shit Gandhi pulled last season and decided that he had absolutely 0 chance of becoming world leader out of all the old clones. So to save the trouble they just kept him on Ice and erased him from everyone's (Except Abe's?) memories.
>erased him from everyone's (Except Abe's?) memories
Maybe they erased him from everyone's memory after the first episode, around the same time they implemented mind control in a bunch of the clones.
Make's more sense actually considering the fact that Abe seems to get over Gandhi "Avoiding" him immediately after the events of the Premier.
Still though, This revelation does make his inevitable return in Season 4 more interesting as It will most likely give him a plot of trying to reconnect with his Best Friend Abe, who now just sees him as a complete stranger.
idk, final episodes were pretty ok, some jokes caught me off guard.
Episode 10 poster
How come they are still using the Andy Dick character in promotional material?
people like van gogh
He's now voiced by Will Forte instead.
So was there in any point in having Candide be Joan's foster mom? Did it amount to anything in the end?
No.
an easy way to get rid of toots 🙁
But why bother? His voice actor is still on the show
was his va black?
also the "wise, spiritual black man who is blind and not actually that wise nor spiritual" is very racist and totally not acceptable for a modern cartoon unfortunately
Wasn't it to set up Joan being groomed into her ideal world leader?
I haven't seen the last 2 episodes yet but Candide and Joan haven't really interacted throughout the season for something established so early on that it felt kinda pointless.
Just copy and paste what's spoilered here
I counted four jokes about JFK's ass.
God this Butlertron episode is so fricken lame
this
how do you frick up a butlertron episode
i guess where there's a will, there's a way
i feel that's part of the "joke" about his backstory being award bait
that being said i didn't care for it either, we never needed an actual reason for him saying wesley beyond being based off mr belvedere
How would you have done season 2 anons?
>Abe, Joan, Cleo, and JFK are all back, of course, long with the original Board of Shadowy Figures.
>Gandhi is still gone-- at least, that's what everyone thinks.
>No one seems to remember anything related to prom and everyone has collective gaps in their memory.
>Gandhi, as far as everyone remembers, went off to a special boarding school in Geneva.
>Joan remembers her feelings for Abe, but also feels an odd connection to JFK for reasons she obviously can't remember.
>The time skip is left ambiguous, so it's unclear if it's been a year and it's still the early 2000s, if it's the 2010s, or 2020s.
>Frida, Confucius, and Harriet reappear in their current designs-- I'll explain this in a moment.
>Candide is now the principal, since Scudworth is said to have died on his way to a principal's convention in Geneva at the school where Gandhi is.
>The truth is that the Board of Shadowy Figures had a feeling Scudworth would betray them, so they had a contingency plan to escape being frozen.
>Because Scudworth was being moronic instead of doing his job, Candide is brought in to act as school principal and correct Scudworth's mistakes.
>The new clones, Frida, Harriet, and Confucius, were designed by the Shadowy Figures to replace the original copies and infiltrate the school to "nudge" the student body to goals more appropriate to the Board's plans.
>Their designs are so wild because the Board has no idea what makes teens cool and just threw a bunch of different concepts together. By making them "cool," the new clones would be more likely to not arouse suspicion.
>Scudworth and Butlertron are alive, however, and Scudworth plans to retake his old job.
>He accidentally defrosts Gandhi, who was going to be shipped away to be destroyed with other "defective" clones.
>As it turns out, Gandhi is actually Gary Coleman. Scudworth lost the original Gandhi's DNA and just used Coleman's DNA to cover it up.
>How would you have done season 2 anons?
I'd make it one long continuous orgy
>cont.
>The Board figured this out after reviewing the clone's files and, not wanting to have "another Gary Coleman issue like last time," were going to have Gandhi destroyed.
>Gandhi wants to get back with everyone, so he, Scudworth, Butlertron, and a bunch of other defective clones team up to get things back to normal.
>Some of these defective clones include a John Wayne Gacy who likes mature women and is a pacifist, a Norman Rockwell who has awful artistic ability, a straight-and-narrow Mick Jagger, a Woodstock-loving hippie Richard Nixon, and an ultra-conservative housewife Gloria Steinem.
>Gandhi isn't actually a Gandhi clone and is instead a Nelson Mandela clone
>all season 1 episodes have been edited to say Nelson instead of Gandhi
>Nelson gets defrosted in the final episode of season 2 but everyone thought he was there the entire time
That would be incredibly based but they’d never do that.
Ok tell me what you guys think
>shadowy figures and clones are MIA so new members are set
>they are none the wiser that it was scudworths fault
>some years later they try to recreted the project so they order scudworth to create a new batch of clones which he does, he also can't clone a few of them again because the DNA sample gets fricked over for some reason, which includes Gandhi's DNA
>scudworth waits for the new clones to mature and defreeze the old clones so he can have double the clones
>he lets the old shadowy figures frozen
>he also forgets about og gandhi
>instead of creating stupid new characters now you have 2 sets of clones running trough the high school, but because the new clones have been raised by different families than the previous ones they all have something a little bit different about them, visually and personality wise, also because it is 20 years in the future
>high school and teenage romance related hijinks ensue, the clones also find out they have a lot in common and a lot they don't agree with
>until the very last few episodes where something goes terribly wrong with the freezer and the old board of shadowy figures emerges and warns the new one about scudworth
>Gandhi's try to warn the clones of what is about to happen
I don't know how i would end it but it would be something about the clones putting their differences aside to battle the shadowy figures
It would be best to keep it strictly a teen drama parody, drop the serious plot and make it more mundane. Grooming the clones to be in positions of leadership angle can still work, just less serious.
>Regulate Confucius, Frida and Harriet to the background, occasionally showing up like Topher to avoid cast bloat.
>Their roles can largely remain the same otherwise, maybe an episode or two to give them some characterization like Carter or Gough in S1.
>This allows the dynamic of the og clones to remain largely intact and develop existing drama without leaving it to be ignored or sidelining characters. It's a teen drama parody there should be some tension built up between Abe, Cleo, Joan, and JFK for humor.
>Joan's role reversal would work if she's not the main focus of s2, the characters and show suffers from this, the amount of screentime she takes up can be split between the main cast evenly now that it's smaller and having them interact with each other. Her feelings towards Abe and JFK remain the same, any conflict between her and Abe early on should arise from his jealously.
>cont.
>Joan and JFK as a couple don't have to be agree on everything together, JFK should occasionally be a bully and immature, Joan doesn't like this. Joan takes up social issues and is involved in organizing stuff for the school, JFK doesn't care that.
>JoanFK's a thing but JFK's still a jock stereotype, his and Abe's dynamic is largely the same but Joan's his girlfriend now. Any attempts of Abe trying to get close to Joan should be met with dim-witted banter/threats made by JFK to beat his ass. This ends up being a source of conflict between the couple as Joan still has feelings for Abe, not necessarily romantic but they're still friends.
They make up, JFK becomes bros with Abe after they bond over some beer or something.
>JFK really likes Joan, his main conflict should be trying to stay monogamous, taking note that Joan disliked that he had multiple prom dates for those who liked his "character development" in Makeover and Operation Prom. They have a few more sappy, heart to heart moments straight out of a 2000s drama
>cont.
>Abe shouldn't be shit on constantly, not even in a meta way where the writers realize he's not exactly the favorite. It only works if he's an oblivious idiot who in the end tries to do right by his friends.
>Cleo's hurt and bitter from the events of prom, she tries to find comfort in a changed world and Abe tries his hardest to avoid the subject whenever he finds himself next to her. She's not exactly unpopular, she just has more competition now and has to put in more work to come out on top.
>Homecoming would be perfect to explore this just cut out the crown having any actual powers and have it just be a symbol of the superficial high-school social hierarchy, people should bow down to Cleo simply because she's homecoming queen and she's wearing the crown, the parade and floats should be changed to be egyptian themed.
>At one point in the season there should be a scene Cleo where has a "breakdown" and goes to cry somewhere, being his ex JFK takes pity on her and goes to comfort Cleo. This leads to Cleo coming onto JFK, she slowly leans in for a kiss and feels like what might be forever before one or the both them stops and says, in dramatic fashion ofc "This feels wrong." further cementing how much things have changed.
>Assuming Gandhi can't come back there should be more gags and references to him peppered throughout the show. Have him on milk jugs and cartons.
Place your bets on who forgives Joan next season and how long it takes.
>who forgives Joan FIRST next season
jfk first five minutes
How about this
>It's revealed Gandhi is actually a clone of Montezuma II
>Topher keeps calling Gandhi anyways
>The clones learn about the issues with deadnaming while Gandhi learns about his true self
It's a historical and modern teenage joke
would be interesting to see that.
sadly shit writers working on the show so probably wont happen.
>suicide!
I just wanna see Frida creampie Cleo with her big fat futa wiener
ep 9 is a gem in a pile of shit
they should have just made the reboot about scud and mr. b
Yeah I agree, I think ep9 would've fit in the old series just fine
havent seem the new season yet anyone got a mega
anyone
Read the thread
no luck
alright
as much as i enjoyed the first-time viewing, in retrospect i didn't enjoy them as much as i enjoy the old episodes
i am going to pretend the reboot never happened now, and that the clones are all still frozen in the meat locker to this day
stupid
fricking
idiot
it is in the thread
I fricking love JFK he is the best, he saved this entire season
I disagree, his whole "wow I love Joan" got really boring really fast
i cant wait for season 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 🙂
>The last two episodes of season two
So the first N-2, where N is season length in episodes, are already out?
I did not like Gandhi but in this new season the show is boring and I miss him. Is the most boring show the jokes don't land. The gore does not funny the teen drama romance is bad too I don't even know how they mess up. It was just a sad show boring very boring. They were like afraid to make any jokes. I watched the original little bit and it was a lot better I don't know how you fail at making a show but it's bad.
>Gandhi comes back
>Nobody remembers who he is
>Including his best bro Abe
It's a special kind of agony
could anyone link the archived thread with the s3 spoilers? i'm really curious to see if it's real or fake
If you're talking about the S3 finale: https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/137375204/#137400713
Funny how that person acted like cloney island was such a big mystery. Shows the people working on the show barely know shit about the original lol
This is probably one of the bigger problems honestly.
Season 2 really isn't interested in parodying high school dramas as much as prior seasons. It had the Grassy Knoll and the school play episodes but it mostly wanted to just parody what it saw as "popular" among the current generation. I was really hoping for jabs on like, 13 Reasons why, Euphoria, et cetera
Why is episode 9 so shit? I got excited from the style change but then everything else was so boring.
What the frick did they do to Cleo?
I like the Little Lulu/Bakshi/80s style parodies of episode 9, and test tube Joan having her boots
That's about it, the rest of it could have fit into like a minute of a good show
/ourguy/ likes s2
literally who
the guy whose biggest claims to fame are reviewing icarly and being a chronic simp likes it, what a shock
Didn't he stalk that one troony until "she" told him to stop over Twitter?
it was the nostalgia chick, which is more pathetic imo. imagine having a romantic fanfic in your head with a fricking video essayist you watch on youtube lmao
qrd?
Who?
>Award-winning
clever
>quinton
he simps for a troony so his opinions are invalid.
is this just what the shows base is now
Yes
Is that what they can think about? Twitter is full of idiot people.
I've never watched the original, is it any good?
The original is good and worth watching. The second season is really bad, basically fanfiction with a budget. Avoid at all costs.
yes, it has a lot of heart despite being a parody
i advise you watch it and don't go into s2 at all, just let the final ep of s1 be the final ep of clone high forever
"... like Gandhi." "Who?" was almost funny until they cut to him, then it just felt like kicking us while we were down.
I actually liked the Butlertron episode. Fun style changes, some good jokes as it goes, and since nobody else really shows up, my problems with the season aren't there either.
What they did with Cleo makes me not even really want a season 3. It's character assassination. She's not my favorite character, but seeing how they handled her cemented that this new team of writers are incapable of embodying the spirit of the original series.
>Zero mention of her relationship with Abe or JFK in the first season
>Only gets to be devious and manipulative in a single episode.
>Joan is the only one to get outright insulted by her directly despite her initial impressions of Frida.
>Later gets lumped in with Frida only because they both enjoy the same music and can communicate with eyebrows.
>Perfect opportunity to set up that Cleo is manipulating Frida to become popular again.
>It instead is played straight(ha), she has no malicious intentions and is paired with Frida just to pander
>"Perfect opportunity to set up that Cleo is manipulating Frida to become popular again"
They don't have the guts to do that not even for drama
She did that all the time in season 1 and it felt out of character for her to not do it to Frida, especially with her first impression towards her.
Yeah and she was mostly absent from s2, I have a feeling its another thing the writers aren't going to touch on like her relationship with Abe or JFK.
Frida is so clearly someone's self insert. I cannot stand it. She has zero flaws and feels like an OC to hang with the gang. I mean even if Harriet and Confucious have incredibly basic flaws, I struggle to find any flaw with Frida and now she gets the hottest girl in school and there's zero animosity in their relationship? Give me a fricking break.
you know they will never break up, once a bisexual is in a lesbian relationship they aren't allowed to break up (in media)
I'm still waiting for the reveal that Cleo is just using her relationship with Frida to be popular again.
we can only hope but as
pointed out. probably not.
So is next season gonna be about joan trying to get her friends back? It’d honestly be a good opportunity to bring back Ghandi if that is the case even though they’re probably not gonna do that. The last episode shows that Ghandi has been forgotten so he’d probably want to be noticed too.
>Scudworth had already cloned Abraham Lincoln when he met Butlertron
>The intro shows both of them in his grave anyway
Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
just turn your brain off lol!
Yes
>he's gonna pretend season 1 cared about continuity
When the rest of the episodes in S2 care then it feels unintentional and thus incompetent. It's been brought up multiple times this thread that a lot of plot points would be scoffed at if they happened in S1 instead of being played straight.
Could be a previous butlertron, maybe that’ll be an episode next season
>scudworth’s previous butlertron comes back
>backstory shows that scudworth only went to Hollywood for our current butlertron because his previous butlertron left him
>ends up putting a strain on his relationship with the current butlertroh
If they're going to dedicate season 3 to making up for bad writing oversights then they may as well reboot it
>S2 but it all ends up being a fever dream by s3
>Gandhi: Huh? What, Joan and JFK dating? New clones? 2023? Man you must've really hit your head hard there.
If only
>MEGA
can someone link a mega to the new season
it's already in the thread you dipshit learn to fricking do a modicum of work
I think they sort of covered that with a joke. Scudworth mentioned that he cloned himself and had to kill many of his clones. We dont know if the current Scudworth is a clone.
The whole Butlertron episode didn’t make sense to begin with, so I accepted it as non-canon and an excuse for the crew to play around with different styles and make the most Emmy-bait episode they could think of.
This season really suffered from the loss of both Gandhi and most of the side cast.
Getting rid of the foster parents, the wacky Gandhi sideplots, and making most of the classmates silent really limited the show's style of humor and you get the sense that most of the main characters are more enjoyable in smaller doses at a time as they don't have as many characters to bounce off of.
everyone having their memories wiped (or alternatively, only joan's memory wiped) would’ve made for a better cliffhanger
I was hoping she’d completely fix their minds and they’d remember Ghandi
This shit felt more like Total Drama than Clone High
Definitely.
Also, did anyone else feel this show felt way more childish then like, some actual kids shows?
I feel more grown up watching the Sam and Max cartoon. Though maybe that's just the fast paced vocabulary used in that show
To me, certain moments felt more like 6Teen, though it was very jarring to hear the cast say frick. Any other adult cartoon, that makes sense, but this one?
it feels alright when scudworth and mr b said frick, but hearing joan say it was really odd
Mr. B saying 'FRICK YOU, WESLEY" made me burst into laughter
I think with B and Scudworth, they not only use it sparingly, but they really put a lot of energy behind it. Putting the "Bomb" in Dropping an F Bomb, so to speak
>This season sucked
No shit, how about this. What scene made you cringe at?
For me it was the episode with the semen.
When they were making their white guy confidence potion and pulled out a photo of Joe Rogan. Fricking hacks.
Are you saying Joe Rogan isn't confident?
Nta, but Rogan actually provides something beyond mere confidence.
ate but no, that's not what I was getting at. It's moreso the petty, passive aggressive nature of the joke and the fact they used a -photo- of him. It felt like a lazy edit you'd find on reddit
When Frida went "no fib that simp just got took" in the heeby jeeby episode and Harriet freaking about becoming a #wineaunt
Frida x Cleo
>White Guy Confidence
>Seamen Song
>Cleo fetish episode
>Grassy Knoll is problematic """joke"""
>Grassy Knoll is problematic """joke"""
Fricking this. "Erm 50s diners represent a time that wasn't very nice for everybody, actually." Maybe people just enjoy an aesthetic. Is the concept of the 1950s really so triggering for you that you can't even bear to see a retro diner? Frick off.
>getting triggered at a joke
Lol
>getting triggered at a diner's aesthetiv
Lol, lmao even
way too many but the lgbt song did it for me.
Just finished the season, I do agree that a decent chunk of the episodes were clunky but overall I think S2 is definitely overhated on here. Even the weaker episodes had some good jokes and moments.
>scudworth's song about 2023
>YOUR A LOSER WITH A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF FRIENDS.... ZERO. and the flame war in general
>everyone stressing out over pre-midterms
>Frida's sentient unibrow
>Joan hijacking the musical to be about weird avant-garde shit and then getting mad at Harriet for stifling her creativity
>the Grassy Knoll getting trashed multiple times
>the seamen music segments
>Confucius being re-energized by getting exactly one like and being terminally unpopular despite spending all his time on social media
>episodes 7-10 in general are consistently quality from the tortoise Joan and JFK apparently had to Topher's blackmail to Mr. B's backstory and the season finale sticking to relationship drama even as the clones are stuck in a literal death maze
I liked all the new characters except for Frida, whom I agree is underdeveloped and doesn't have any real comedic vices. Candide was nice as a more direct antagonist to Scudworth, and Harriet was good satire on high-strung Magnet students that take all the AP classes and end up abusing cocaine.
It would have been easy for the writers to shit on the old clones, but they're written with a degree of respect that I appreciate; even Abe got a pretty light ribbing (read: white guy confidence song) in exchange for stuff like offering himself up as a sacrifice to the zombies, playing Mayor Spinner in the musical, genuinely trying to be a good friend to Joan and using his legs as a bridge in the finale.
I don't think S2 is perfect by any means, but you can tell that the people behind it genuinely like the show and want to do a good job revisiting it and I think it shows. I do hope S3 can keep the quality level as consistent as they did with the back half of S2.
They still have quite a few talented comedians and comedic writers on staff, so it's no surprise that there are a handful (or a lot, depending on the episode) of jokes which really land.
I loved the bit where the four guys stop to play basketball, so that Joan can kill them when they scored a point, but then they all fail to score repeatedly.
And the your/you're bit from episode 2 really got me.
Overall I don't think that makes up for how the characterization completely fell off a cliff with none of the old characters being in character, and only Cleopatra feeling still enjoyable to watch.
The show takes itself way too seriously, but unlike Season 1, it isn't sarcastic about it. The show feels made for the tumblr/twitter/tiktok stans who found out about the show in 2020 and completely misunderstood it.
I like all of the new characters though. They don't stand out that much, but all of them are likeable and harmless fun. Topher is a great addition, he feels like a classic Clone High character
I agree with you. I actually enjoyed S2, though it was inferior to the first season. I hope that the writers look at both the positive and negative feedback and work to bring the show to better heights, this time parodying modern teen dramas like Euphoria, maybe having Harriet getting addicted to caffeine pills or something (like that funny Saved By the Bell episode).
Season 3 has already been written and storyboarded. We’ll only see how the writers interpreted audience feedback with a potential Season 4.
some jokes do land but overall i was disappointed.
Didn't expect it to be like season 1 but it was way worse than I imagined
>the seamen music segments were funny
I agree with pretty much everything else you said, but those songs were peak cringe, even the ones that weren't just blatant LGBT PSAs. I fricking hate sea shanties anyway though, so whatever.
I'm so glad they kept their promise
I'm so glad they brought ghandi back for the finale
How can anyone not like Confucious?? Harriet and Frida fine, but Confucius is best boy
Tell me what's the funniest Confucius moment.
nta but *you're
That's more like a Topher moment.
fair
but him saying "it's okay, I corrected his grammar" is still funny though
Him failing at getting any sort of social media clout. Speaking as an old zoomer (26), I knew plenty of people exactly like him during my last two years of high school and all of college.
The bit where he says "let's do a fundraising montage" and then the montage is just him asking his mom for 100k and getting it instantly.
I think the issue with Confucius, Harriet, and Frida is that they don't really have any hint of malice to them. Abe, Cleo, Joan, JFK, and Gandhi all had their own moments, and Topher feels the most fitting among the new clones because he's a jerk. The issue with the other three is that even when they're doing bad things, they never act mean about it.
Mr. B... 🙁
A promise between brothers is...forever...:(
This whole season has been mostly shit but I will say this. I really enjoyed the montage of Joan acting Feral and beating everyone to the end of the maze only to find out this was all a front from the start just to kill off the Board of Shadowy Figures to make Candide the new final boss of the series.
I also liked the ending theme that played when Joan got everyone's memories back
>This whole season has been mostly shit-
You should just stop there. This is why content is such ASS these days, everyone likes to play it far too fair. Don't be fair, be ruthless. Call it shit. Make these writers pull their hair out and quit if they can't handle the pressure of pleasing an audience. Everyone in the industry survives on the little crumbs of praise, because they're touch-starved losers. Don't give them any praise. Just call it shit and move on.
>just forgo nuance, bro
That's how we got here, dumbass.
> I really enjoyed the montage of Joan acting Feral and beating everyone to the end of the maze only to find out this was all a front from the start just to kill off the Board of Shadowy Figures to make Candide the new final boss of the series.
Yeah that was good. Also liked the whole Topher blackmail thing being resolved my JFK's butt crushing the phone.
Watched the season finale, have to say I'm pleasantly surprised with how the season turned out. Not on the level of the first but it was enjoyable throughout. Final episode was satisfying and I'm looking forward to season 3 now.
I still miss Gandhi though. The fact that he's still getting referenced gives me hope he'll be back someday (probably in the 4th season if it happens).
List the top 5 funniest moments in the season.
For me:
Abe lighthouse
Abe Gandhi stuff in episode 1
JFK flame war
JFK butt phone crush
Instructional boogie
It's not as funny as season 1 overall, but it's enjoyable and has its moments.
Pretty weak for a top 5. I feel bad for people coping with this show, especially fans of the original. You know it's bad, you just don't want to admit it.
Not every piece of media has to be 10/10 or 1/10, there are gradients
Your follow-up to a 10/10 series after 20 years should be close to 10/10. Frick "gradients", you should expect nothing less than PURE GOLD from these entitled moron writers who are currently whining about pay.
>Your follow-up to a 10/10 series
I liked watching the original clone high as a kid but anon, it was never a 10/10 and maybe you should cut back on the nostalgia juice.
I watched some of it as a kid but didn't get it much back then. But I can say actually watching it last year, it was one of the funniest cartoons I ever saw
You know Topher, not everyone has to agree with your sense of humor
should I watch this show?
Only season 1.
Save yourself the heartache of waiting to see how much lower they can drop the bar, every episode feels like it goes 1 step forward and 2 steps back. The writing and structure of s2 is legitimately odd.
I wouldn't bother until s3 comes out just to watch it all in one go.
If that's the case are their any good parts of the show, that i can watch clips of on YouTube?
Just. Watch. Season. One.
Yeah watch all of season 1 and if you want more try the new season and see if it clicks with you
S1 on youtube if retrorun still has it up or on watchcartoon
why can't shows use this style?
probably cost a lot of money
You are literally showing a clip of the show using this style.
That suppose to be Ralph Bakshi style right?
Yes.
The only hints were here secretly hating being a part of corporate meetings outside of the party they had.
Any reason you, uh... recording that clip in particular.
Seems like it, but doing it to same effect as he did kinda feels like a novelty that would wear thin. I dunno, maybe it could work, but I think it'd have to be cel-animated to capture that original style.
this show was never good you were just young when the first season came out and didnt have good taste yet
t. someone who watched season 1 right before season 2 dropped
I didn't watch Clone High until way later in life, and I thought it was brilliant. It's a glimpse back into a time period where people could laugh off insensitivities without having to morally grandstand. That's why the new season failed, because with any joke you make you have to make it abundantly clear where you stand as a writer on either side of the issue.
>That's why the new season failed, because with any joke you make you have to make it abundantly clear where you stand as a writer on either side of the issue.
It's worse than that, Anon. You have to make it clear that you're on the RIGHT side of the issue.
The most disappointing thing is that it just wasn't very funny.
I would have happily accepted every change they made if the writing was as good as the first season's. Almost every line was some kind of joke and most of them landed, but that just didn't happen this time around.
Were there hints that Candide was planning on betraying the secret board of shadowy figures? I don't recall any.
I really like that the season ended with JFK and Abe being buds. "What?! But that's OUR special thing!" Was inherently hilarious.
We also have a revolving element to popularity. Abe worked his way into the cool kid group during the first season, then was launched out of it by the start of the new one. Joan tepidly was cool at the season 1 finale, maintained popularity in season 2, and lost in in the finale. JFK remains popular no matter what since of course, nothing bad ever happens to a Kennedy.
The new characters were lacking in comedy games. The well of jokes they could draw on were shallow.
Confucius had a few but none of them were followed up on. He was implied to be social media obsessed, which got hit on a few times, but the payoff was generally lame, or reliant on catching subtle details like how all his followers were his family members and Harriet. I had to pause the show to realize that. Besides that, there's the rock throw gag implying he's an idiot like a lot of the season 1 male characters, but that didn't get hit on very often. His friendship with JFK was where it showed up, but I sort of expected him to also be friends with Abe, and maybe a bridge between them.
Frieda has her eyebrow gag and... being super relaxed. Which sometimes leads to a visual gag, but isn't particularly strong. She was fairly funny when she felt awkward about Cleo, but that got resolved in two episodes. I figure they need to either put a twist in the relationship, or have Frieda become twisted by it. Because Cleo's game is supposed to be that she's an awful person who is forgiven because she's hot.
Harriet eventually gets a hyper competitive, goal driven focus. But we really only see that in the latter half of the series, and it's only highlighted against Confucius, who has effectively already won at life and has no reason to try. The rest of it is represented by her doing silly faces as she tries to appear chipper while stressed out.
They lack joke meat. Topher's fine.
I don't know why lord and miller couldn't just wait until they finish working on spider-verse and the afterparty, so then they can work on Clone High later on, so we wouldn't have this mess.
Seriously. This new season felt way more directionless and its jokes didn't hit as hard compared to the original run. The Afterparty made for a better high school drama story. Either Lord & Miller barely stepped foot in Clone High S2's writers' room beyond the first episode or they were never gonna capture that same spark after 20 years. It's hard to tell how involved they were this time around since they still voiced Scudworth and JFK every episode.
Keep in mind that Lord and Miller only wrote 4 of the original 13 episodes.
TV writing is a collaborative effort and Clone High was Lord & Miller's very first project, so odds are they were heavily involved with S1 and had a hand in the development of every script while controlling the overall vision/story arcs. Lord & Miller were also the supervising directors, so they LITERALLY were prying over every single scene throughout the 13 episodes.
They're obviously too busy handling 4 or 5 other projects nowadays, so I'm sure they left Seasons 2 & 3 in the hands of other people.
>season ends in girl power
Of course.
it ends with everyone hating Joan
They'll make it so everyone else is in the wrong and Joan is le misunderstood.
>Candide represents girlpower
>girlpower leaves you a miserable, lonely reptile-woman who only harms those around you
>Joan rejects Candide but still ends up miserable because of her attempt to be a girl-boss
>Abe, JFK and the boys stay friends and mostly just hand fun playing games in the maze since male friendship only requires the slimmest of pretense to form life-long bonds
Interesting theory, anon.
Candide didn't really seem that "lonely" or "miserable". She was just added to emasculate Skudworth.
Pretty sure the second season is presenting her as a weird lizard woman that you should find uncomfortable, at the least. Scudworth being attracted to her in the face of her utter contempt is just a joke about his horrible life decisions.
Cool story bro.
Thanks anon, I think your story is real cool, too.
in the episode where scudworth, mr. b and candide all drink the truth serum she reveals she's terribly lonely and desperately wants to be a mother
then it was never brought up again
There was also the lgbtq song talking about it positively and the episode ends with "don't learn about sex from tv" almost as to completely negate that point they made in the song
Schizo-based(secretly based through deceptive means that you have to see past in order to understand) or just regular writer cringe?
Probably accidentally based. The writing of the rest of the season is pretty cringe, but Candide spends the entire season looking like a terrible person despite Joan trying to prop her up as a "single, working, career focused woman" or whatever.
The image of Joan, as nu-Candide (following her path) was supposed to be horrific, I'm pretty sure, and I'm certain the only time we saw Candide happy was when she was hanging out with the shadowy council and letting loose. But then she conspired to kill all of them in order to further her career.
It isn't "accidentally" based, it's called nuance. You can in fact like it when women do powerful things AND hate women like Candide who are manipulative, narcissistic, power hungry ghouls who try grooming other women to act exactly like them.
Go watch the episode, anon. Jesus Christ.
Commenting on shows you don't watch is Cinemaphile 's favorite activity.
Yeah this shit's weird and gone off the rails now but not in a fun way.
God I love Candide’s fat ass
you can tell that massive homosexual nicktendo is on this thread...
>he said this season was better than season one
why did he lie?
For some reason I thought Christopher Colombus was Da Vinci.
This show started taking itself too seriously, I loved it for paper-thin plots where they squeezed out every dumb joke they could and the relationship drama was played for laughs
This season they don't have confidence in the few jokes they have, like Mr. B apologizing for the "seamen" thing which would've been funny if they just let it be. Scangrade returned and Joan instantly breaks the fourth wall and the meta jokes they did this season are NEVER funny just stop it good lord
Then also I'd like to single out that line where JFK said something like "going through a break-up is like getting a bullet in the head", and if you have to force the historical jokes like that then leave them out, you can only do that one so many times
just stop the show here it's frustrating
FRIDA SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Just binged the season, it was OK, 7.5/10
second episode and last 3 were the better ones
but I'm making this post just to say that this background chick is cute.
Thank you for your attention
>Thank you for your attention
>not “Thank you for your consideration”
come on, man. it was right there.
it was right in my face and I missed it
щ(。_。щ)
Wow. Hands of Sincerity in emoticon form. We truly are in the future.
Anyone figure out who the clone in the yellow overalls is supposed to be?
I've been asking about this girl every week and not one person has cared.
sorry, sacagawea's ponytail is currently tied around my dick for me to give a shit
seriously she is the only good thing that has came out of season 2 and she had 4 lines and fricked a peanut
i liked the final episode best, i wish i didnt have frida and harriet tho, didnt like them one bit, frida is worst as her character was only developed on a episode and quickly overcame it, conficius was fine but should had just been a background character that joins in at times, topher and cadide is my favourite new character so far
Hey anon, click on this for me.
So, Clone High S2's for fools eh?
Fools and LIBERALS
When will JFK reveal his true, er uh, power?
I demand more Candide
Worth it just for her tbh.
Mommy. Not a good one. But Mommy.
looks like he's sticking his hand into candide's cold reptilian coochie
Overall I'm giving this season a 7.5/10
If Season 3 isn't an improvement then I'm not sure if I even want a Season 4 with Gandhi back.
Wouldn't 7.5 out of 10 be pretty great? Maybe I'm just not understanding this but if the next season being the same quality as 7.5 being a bad thing that would turn you off the whole series wouldn't a 5 or lower make more sense?
What I mean is that I'm fine with this season just being OK since it's a 20 year later revival but I hope for the next season they get into a better rhythm.
Oh. That's much more understandable, thanks for clearing that up anon.
Personally I think it started out pretty weak but ended up getting better as it went on, I've had a good time with it and wouldn't mind another season if it keeps going like this.
Still weirded out about Joan though. Everyone else looks the same and pretty sharp yet she was rounded down and I still don't really get the thought process behind it. Also boobs being less pointy with no line but that part doesn't really bother me as much compared to missing her sharp head.
I'm a massive fan of the original clone high. Wrote freshman college english papers on it, have all music Tommy Walter made, bought it on DVD the moment I found out that it had a complete run in Canada and showed all my friends... It's probably one of my top 5 favorite cartoons.
I'm in the same boat. I saw people giving season 2 a shit ton of hate and I was worried.
Then I watched it and I really didn't get the youtube morons crying over it and trying to over analyze it like they were hard core fans and didn't even know simple lore around the show.
>Was season 2 as good as 1?
No, but it's alright.
It's a parody of a teen drama set in the current year.
Teen dramas now are different from teen dramas 20 years ago.
There were some weak plot points and cringy jokes but they are relatively few.
They also changed the main character from Abe to Joan so that was bound to cause a shake up.
>Season 3?
I'm hoping if it happens they can find a rythm. The Joan/JFK break up felt forced and made no sense.
Since they are going to change main characters again I am hoping they focus on JFK next season (assuming there is one). JFK having depth but consistently overcompensating by acting overly macho makes for great comedy.
I'd give season 2 a 7.5 out of 10. Enjoyable, worth continuing, but not as good as Season 1.
>It's a parody of a teen drama set in the current year
That's my main issue with Season 2 though, it feels too genuine most of the time instead of a parody.
I get that. The thing is Clone High was never just ruthless mocking, more lightly poking. Did it make fun of Dawson's Creek and the like? Yeah but it never full on tore it to shreads. There was always some genuine heart to the show. It would keep a lot of the drama and tension that made those shows they were making fun of successful.
The problem with current year Teen Dramas is they are woke poorly written trash. People's instincts are to immediately tear it apart because it's not the phase of angsty teen drama that is flawed but the core ideology of wokeness that sacrafices story and plot to make heavy handed political messages.
So seeing them go so easy on what is a cancer to writing and even make some jokes in the same woke vein can feel kinda offputting. They wanted to keep the Genuine "heart" of Clone High in an era where the source material they are parodying is heartless and souless propaganda.
I feel ya on this, but I promise if it went full Anti-SJW (Especially given that they were the original victims of cancel culture) it would have been garbage and just like watching Skeptic Youtubers make a cartoon. I thought they did just an okay job striking the balance.
It also kinda seems like they're appealing directly to that modern teen drama audience who discovered the original show on tiktok.
https://twitter.com/pomssum/status/1669278843465793537
Again, imagine if we had a 13 reasons why or Euphoria parody,
How would you tackle a 13 reasons why or Euphoria parody in Clone High?
They could do the "euphoria high school" meme and have the new clones or whatever way over dressed(or underdressed)for high school.
13 reasons why could just be the tapes and a jab at how every mental health expert screeched when the show aired
Ooh that could work, I'm sure they could do Riverdale too making fun of how completely nonsensical and off the rails it's become. There's probably some older tropes they haven't touched on too.
>riverdale
I feel like they kinda did with the whole roof performance thing. Surprised no one pointed it out. And I don’t even watch Riverdale. https://youtu.be/KCWbHdOoOYw
Drug addiction parody where someone gets addicted to some innocuous food made addictive by Scudworth, or an episode with gratuitous, over exaggerated sex scenes that are kinda gross to look at (with censorship because it's not that kind of TV-MA shoe) and random gang/mafia drama like in both Riverdale and Euphoria.
>woke
homie please, they're hardly more "woke" than Canadian teen dramas like Degrassi: The Next Generation, and that show was censored in the USA when we got it because audiences were too sensitive back then to take on hard topics for teenagers. Even I remember this and I was born in 1997, how old are you?
>they're hardly more "woke" than Canadian teen dramas like Degrassi: The Next Generation
Degrassi: Next Class is 10x more woke than anything that came out 20 years ago
Not surprised, Canada is 10-20 years ahead of the United States in terms of social progression (but 100 years behind with how they treat their First Nations people)
this show is so fricking funny, one of the kids is going to shoot up the school (the one on the right) but is ultimately stopped. then no one takes any further action
sad it didn't have the balls the way next generation did. they brought a gun into the situation and shot Drake with it
i don't see one wheelchair kid
>youtube morons overanalyzing.
Who? I haven't really seen much of anything like that since the first episode leaked.
I'm honestly surprised footgays didn't cling to Joan after this episode.
Would’ve been better if they implied she didn’t wear socks. Imagine the smell.
Why does Topher seem so gay for Abe? Nothing wrong with being gay but why would you be gay for Abe? What does he even see in him?
Wouldn't be able to resist his 8-inch Abe. Also it's scientifically proven that short males have a subconscious sexual attraction to tall males.
Hey Joan, what are you doing wasting time on that computer? It's almost time for the music festival where we all perform the songs we wrote about our deepest, most embarrassing desires!
Big hands, big feet, and he’s tall.
He was one of the first people he told his secret to out of all the old clones and he wanted to keep tabs on him when it came to him going after Joan
he is not gay, he just a c**t that is fricking with abe
...why does everyone think Topher is gay?
He seems very gay and close with Abe, Also his character so far has been all about overcompensating for Christopher and hiding his real self. It's pretty obvious in the CPR scene where he talks about how straight and woke he is for performing CPR on a black woman.
He does stuff like this.
A lot.
seeing this was the only thing that made me audibly laugh last episode
Do you think the real reason he was white leveraging Abe is because he was secretly in gay with him?
>secretly in gay with him?
My biggest gripe is that they moved episode previews to the start of the episode rather than being at the end of the previous ep
The thing is her sharp head could've still worked 🙁
I do not agree.
BLASPHEMY
Honestly I think it's the size of the gap combined with not being sharp. It looks much better when you give her a big forehead and don't get to see hair meeting at the top of her head.
No I agree, I prefer it that way too gives her a bit of an edge(lol) and makes her design stand out but apparently Joan's sharp "balding" head was enough of an issue they had to fix it. I just wished they they kept the sharp edges if they were going to change it.
I feel really confused by the changes to Joan all around. If the smaller boobs were to desexualise her why make scenes like this?
>How I rate the Episodes
>Ep1. 7/10 the rough cut leak was rough cause the timing and voices were off. Final product fixed a lot of it and it addressed the current woke culture pretty well but over pandered with the new woke clones and added maybe too many new characters to keep track of
>ep 2: 9/10 Fricking hillarious
>ep 3: 8/10 absurd as frick but enjoyable
>ep 4: 9/10 This is the Clone High season 1 plot lines I enjoyed
>ep 5: 5/10 People love or hate this one. I thought it leaned too much into the woke stuff. I get it, you wanted to have another musical episode like the raisin pusher one but the plot was poorly done and forced as a delivery for woke messaging.... kinda like modern teen dramas.
>ep:6 5/10 Mystery illness out of nowhere that doesn't make a lot of sense and isn't very funny
>ep: 7 7/10 this could have been a 9 or 10. Jokes hit hard, but the JFK joan break up made no sense. I feel like it should have been 2 episodes or something.
>ep 8: 9.9/10 This is the season 1 clone high good shit. Only critique is Cleo being confused by her advances not being acted on could have been fleshed out more.
>ep 9: 7.5/10 Good and you can tell they tried. Atleast deserves an emmy nomination.
>ep 10: 9/10 yup thats the clone high I remember and they didn't leave us on a cliff hanger and implied there would be a Season 3.
I mean there were changes all around but I don't think they were desexualizing I think the new artists/animators felt thats how she looks.
I'd agree with this. The creators themselves have said the show has always had heart in interviews.
I dunno if it is a thing for Gen Z to watch Clone High, but I'd agree they want the base to be more than Millenials, Gen Y and 30 somethings who watched the original. I'm fine with it so long as they keep it funny.
And don't make everything a political statement...
>I just wished they they kept the sharp edges if they were going to change it.
Sometimes they let themselves go and draw her like that.
The fan art you posted is weird, because the two on the left make her look like she's balding, but the one on the bottom right has the perfect amount of her forehead showing. It makes her forehead look more triangular and it kinda covers her eyes which is perfect for her character.
>Joan's sharp "balding" head
She did look bald, anon. You can deny it all you want, but it looked bad.
Fricking cowards. My wife should’ve never lost her sharp head. Why did they think modern audiences can't accept a little cartoonish stylization?
I guess this is a bad time to say that I hated Joan's anvil head.
You’re so brave for this. S1 Joan has probably one of my favourite designs in a cartoon.
I’m more upset that they made her boobs smaller and got rid of her cleavage
artists?
Out of the goodness of my heart I will spoonfeed you, just google search next time anon
https://twitter.com/EllenCarbon/status/1671928292310679552?cxt=HHwWgIDUkY778LMuAAAA
https://twitter.com/CoolGuyScoot/status/1670315345045860353
If you just put in clonehigh as a hashtag on twitter you'll find a ton of art, some of it sucks but there's some gems in there. A lot of Frida and Cleo which I don't personally mind since I like Frida but yeah there's good stuff outside of that.
Basically if you were a fan of Clone High but got fed crumbs before you're now in luck because fandom exists and has pumped juice into artists.
A lot of Frida and Cleo, or a lot of Frida x Cleo?
I reeeally want some good Cleo art. Joan and Candide too.
Frida x Cleo and Frida culo. But they do give Cleo's fat breasts some respect.
good shit
Candide gets love too. People simp hard for the awful female that has a fat ass.
can’t find these two
I just don’t get why no one ever cites artists
Because I don't remember them homie.
Joan gets love too. Good since I always liked her.
Plenty of other kinds of art too if you're looking more for that. Have fun anon.
JoanFK stans, it’s been real…
Bros...
I love how kennedy's eyes really look Like That
He truly was a, er uh, magnificent specimen.
damn. i don’t know what it is but this shit does not work for me genderswapped. am i sexist?
You just aren't based enough to find goth men hot yet. You need to get gayer to be in the big leagues buddy.
where do we go from here?
They had to do it, anon. I love the first season, but every time I looked too hard at Joan's head, all I could see was this.
Frick you I love Joan's sharp head.
Someone say Topher is gay?
Very gay.
Everytime you call Topher Bus gay... ...It rains somewhere.
Best joke this season? Any you feel surpassed the humour of the first season?
What is a bbg?
I don't know.
Babygirl I think
>Best joke this season?
Not the best joke but I liked the “SHUT UP TOPHER” bits in the last episode
That bit where they get 10k from Confucius's mom. And use it all to make a commercial.. to raise money.
That felt like the old fashioned, shenanigans.
>I forced our friendship and also purposely made you get groomed by an old lady in order to blackmail you because I love you, Abe
I hope S3 has a Topher x Joan French kissing scene solely to make shippers pissed
>make Joan a bigger prostitute than Cleo
I’m interested in this development
Topher will date Joan in S3, right? Both are canceled shits.
Oh shit, I would LOVE that
How we feeling bros? Was the roof raised?
nah
They failed to flip the b***h.
How can someone so moronic be so based?
Abe's got a point
Frick the cliffhanger is so annoying since you know it’s going to be such a forced thing, then dropped immediately in the same episode. Gives me the same vibes of Joan forgiving JFK and then lashing out at Abe for something less drastic (since she found out immediately.) like is it really a big deal, the whole thing was a farce.
The new characters were awful
The retcon were awful
This season was awful
But at least these two weren't butchered and we got the real end game of them becoming bros. Also how are new fans feeling about Abe this season? Because from what I've seen original fans like all the characters but new fans really love JFK and detest Abe.
Abe's still laughably stupid and unaware so I like him.
KILL HARRIET
>Season 3's final episode is "Cloney Island"
>Lord and Miller said Ghandi isn't coming until Season 4
>Clones don't remember Ghandi at all besides Abe possibly
There will be no Season 4. If anything they'll make a Clone college afterwards, but 2010s cartoons have ruined cartoons. Who the frick asked for this plot?
>Who the frick asked for this plot?
people who keep watching Total Drama Island without of a hint of irony.
This season really did feel like all the shitty parts of Total Drama in one show
Show me the fart “jokes.”
What's your rating of the new season?
>9>10>8>3>2>>>1>7>>6>>>4>5
You didn’t like the musical episode? I thought it had some solid jokes, overly dramatic teen drama like S1 was known to do, a creative Twister play, and it was the first time I felt they actually did anything interesting with Harriet. The "Abe sweat" C-plot was literally my only issue and even that barely took up time and had a funny resolution with the background dancers.
Weakest episode would have to be either the Cleo Crown one or the season premiere.
I'll be honest, I had to stop watching it at the "White Boy Confidence" song. The theater premise was cliché and Abe seemed way too arrogant, so I figured I wasn't missing much.
I never liked Joan's head in s1. It always looked like someone chopped the top off. It was a good stylization since this fact couldn't get out of my head.
You motherfrickers are crazy by giving this a 7.5 or anything higher than a 6/10
Some jokes do land and a couple of episodes are good but the show is simply way too inferior to the old one. The new characters are all terrible aside from topher bus and the new designs are hideous, they clash way too hard with the new ones
Harriet's is the only one that outright sucks, but the rest of the new clones' designs ARE a little too busy.
Now who's the liar that claimed it was "intentional" to have the zoomer cast clash with the OG cast? That was never explored this season beyond maybe one or two scenes in the first episode. Joan became immediate besties with Frida and Harriet, JFK was introduced to TikTok but spent the rest of the season worshipping Joan, and Confucius some rich kid whose clout-chasing wasn't even explored all that much.
>The new characters are all terrible aside from topher bus
Confucius grew on me and I like Candide. Frida's okay, I guess, but they're trying REALLY hard to make her cool.
Agreed also the writing is terrible with pacing. I mean it went from Joan and Cleo having 0 positive interactions with each other too oh best friends cause I’m dating this troll doll.
Hard to believe the same team that'd go on to win an Oscar (Phil Lord and Christopher R. Miller) would produce a mid type of season follow-up. To the show that got them notoriety in the first place, no less. A shame, but that's where we stand now.
Them becoming Oscar winners and big time Hollywood producers is probably why this season is so mediocre. It sucks to say, and I know they still care about Clone High since it was their first show ever, but they just didn’t have time for it with all their other projects going on at the time.
>They died of natural causes... from injuries sustained from that train what hit 'em.
That's the hardest I've laughed at a comedy cartoon in a long fricking time, jesus christ what a read
knew I recognized that song when they were playing basketball
I thought it was pretty good overall and can't wait for season 3. Biggest problem I really have when it comes to the writing is that the clone part seems to have been sidelined. In Season 1 there where constant jokes and references about the other clones and historical figures. Things like making Jesus a mexican, the paul revere song about paul being a gossip spreader, Ceaser being overly dramatic. Even the main cast the jokes about their relationship to their clones was constant. Topher was really the only one where they seemed to have a fitting joke, the rest I couldn't tell you or maybe I'm just too stupid that it went over my head. Frita being a skater lesbian in to street art fit since the actual one was very much like that but I don't really know the personality for Tubmin or Confucius or how the show pokes fun at them. Maybe for confucius the joke is that he's a shallow idiot obessed with social media while the real one wouldn't be? I have no idea, or if I did a good job explaining myself anyways.
>confucius
the original dude was a well-known scholar and philosopher who grew up poor, and his clone is a nobody clout-chasing moron who has rich foster parents
The virgin new Clone High season
>replaces Cleo's VA because the old one wasn't "racially accurate"
>most of the new characters don't add anything to the mix and the cast now feels too bloated for no reason
>new characters are overdesigned compared to the old ones
>Mr. B and Scudworth are now wasted because Scudworth spent the whole season simping for some thot
>characters like Frida never get the short end of the stick
>gay couple adds nothing and is just there for the sake of diversity, Cleo and Frida are both non-entities outside of the couple
>parody show that takes itself too seriously now
>awful tween animation
>most of the characters are too nice because they don't want the audience to get the wrong ideas
>The show wants you to take the relationships seriously
>White guy confidence song
>The worst thing you can say about the new season is that it fricked up the show beyond repair
The CHAD new Total Drama season
>only replaces Chris' VA because the old one was too busy method acting
>all 16 new characters are used properly and none of them feel like filler, even the cannon fodder
>new characters have simple and effective designs compared to the old ones
>Chris and Chef are the same as they have always been, no simping here
>all the characters get tortured equally, regardless of race or sex
>gay couple is handled well and doesn't intrude the plot, also it's male x male and not lesbian couple no. 7897543
>serious show that has learned to take itself not so seriously with meta jokes and absurd characters and is better for it
>charming tween animation, 15 years of experience
>the meanest cast ever, most of them try to outwit and backstab the other
>The main couple (Emma x Chase) is utterly abusive and the show wants you to laugh at it
>There's a scene where a male character uses a girl as a human shield and never gets punished for it
>The worst thing you can say about the new season is that it has too many fart jokes
You may now proceed to seethe.
>only replaces Chris' VA because the old one was too busy method acting
lmao underrated joke
>because the old one wasn't "racially accurate"
The original Cleopatra's race DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE. The new VA isn't racially accurate either! What the frick?
>The original Cleopatra's race DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.
Are you saying Greek people don't exist anymore? Cleopatra was mostly Greek, with some Iranian ancestry.
both mid
>"""method acting"""
Does anyone have a screenshot of kid Mr. B? That Max Fleischer style one?
He's adorable and I need to send it to a group chat.
this reboot looks like ass but im watching the og series for the first time and its everything i need right now
> Original series jokes are about parodying teen dramas, musicals, classic tropes
>Modern one has Abraham Lincoln spout modern "slurs" (out of all words Spaz is one ive never heard complaints about)
>What if we leaned into made-up cancel culture
>Frida who nobody knows, is somehow the best new addition
>Harriet Tubman is an embarrassingly offensive representation
>Confuscious has 0 characterization beyond "want me, feel me, gnomey"
>Christopher Columbus barely appears, is the funniest
How does this show even happen?
>Spaz
It's been a Brit thing for a long while. Like I remember them pulling a GameCube Mario because it said spaz or something
Is it actually possible to make Harriet’s design look GOOD?
Yeh.
How did they make me attracted to a chick with a unibrow and facial hair?
First season is 8/10, second season is 4.5/10. Some not terrible jokes floating in a sea of boring or cringe-worthy gags. The fact that every joke they made feels like it's been done before and done better seems like a cosmic irony given the whole clone thing.
Season One had MTV edge. Good or bad, at least it stood out a little. This season really had nothing going for it.
DON'T LET THE FLAME DIE OUT
Time to die.
Ok mommy
I need her.