You know what pisses me off the most about this particular episode?
It isn't just how unfair it was to Arnold, but rather how Stinky and motherf*cking Sid get away unpunished.
Take for example the Phoebe Fart episode (another fetish episode?), Harold was the main instigator of the bullying, but ultimately is punished at the end.
Here, both Arnold and Iggy (who I'm not excusing, mind you) end up at the receiving end of the punishment, but the real instigators get out on top. Damn that pissed me off whenever I remember this shit.
For me, it was that and how the entire city, including Arnold's own family, suddenly thought bunny pajamas were an uproariously, side-splittingly hilarious concept, let alone bunny pajamas put on as part of a predetermined display rather than a personal secret that got out.
Maybe Grandma and Grandpa felt bad for him and are either giving him really cheap rent until he gets on his feet (But he never will because that's what people like Oscar do is take advantage) or Susie's still paying for him because she's too soft hearted to leave him completely struggling. It'll take her awhile before she's strong enough to stop supporting him.
Best care scenario, she meets a hot rich guy that appreciates her and understands her and because it gives her much needed peace of mind while letting her have some independence, he pays for Oscar's room instead so Susie can finally live.
>those nasty rumors involving Arnold
what ones anon
2 years ago
Anonymous
That remind me about Suzie sister and those nasty rumors involving Arnold. The writers totally dropped that plot.
>Lana makes almost no appearance in the final series and was subject to speculation. Online fan 'criminy', who knew Craig Bartlett personally, asked him in a (now deleted) video about the character. The initial idea was that she would "have a crush" on Arnold, and "ask him to do favors and would make Arnold feel a little uncomfortable", according to an archived description by the interviewer. Bartlett's exact words are no longer available, and it is unknown if Lana was intended to be outright predatory or uncomfortably friendly.
>Nevertheless, this concept did not make it to the final version of the character or the series, and the writers did not feel satisfied by their attempts to rewrite the character, so she was removed entirely.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Forgot image. She wasn't Suzie's sister, just another boarder
2 years ago
Anonymous
Suzie's sister showed up in a s4 (or s5?) episode Oskar's baby, Where she dropped off her Kid to be watched by the kakoshka's, that's what that anon is talking about, not lana
2 years ago
Anonymous
I thought he was mistaking her for Lana because of dropped plot and rumor. I don't remember the sister having anything like that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
he might've been talking about that, otherwise I don't what the frick he was talking about with "nasty rumors"
2 years ago
Anonymous
I can only imagine the rage Helga would feel at a boarder trying to muscle in on her turf. It would have been 100000000000000000000000000000000% K I N O
2 years ago
Anonymous
It woulda been a funny way to write her out, Helga getting mad at her and then later in the episode Lana is escorted out of the house by cops as a background event and Grandpa just makes a throwaway comment later "that lady kept picking the garden vegetables early" or something like that
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the evidence for this claim is "now deleted"
How convenient for the no-life wiki editor who made this up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
what about that mysterious spy guy that only got his food via dumbwaiter and other stuff, did anything ever happen there?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Forgot image. She wasn't Suzie's sister, just another boarder
I swear I remember this character asking how old Arnold was in the show. Maybe I made that up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
She only ever had one line in "heat", something about telling him how hot it wa
s and if cold air is a little too much to ask for
>"Arnold as Cupid" >Susie starting to cream herself over Oskar saying "You keep the money." >Oskar then says "Oh, Susie" as if he just received the best handjob of his life.
this would have been funnier had she been drawn to look... anything like the character, and been drawn half japanese like the character instead of some vague type of mediterranean.
Contrary to popular belief the show was set in Washington, not New York.
>Sign when Helga and her mom are driving back home says "Welcome to Washington State" >Arnold's apartment is located underneath what resembles Seattle's Alaskan Way Viaduct >Hillwood is along the Skookumchuck River which is a real river in Washington >Elk Island on the Skookumchuck River resembles the San Juan Islands in Washington >Phoebe has a poster that advertises Tacoma Marine Park >Redwood forests outside of town >Pig War is a plot point in the show, this was a real war between Washington and British Columbia
It's based on Seattle from Craig Bartlett's childhood, during which the city was ~90% white. That's also the reason why his generation turned it into a city of extreme leftist homosexuals who are naive about non-whites.
i always felt like this show was supposed to half take place in the 20s-30s, kinda like how Batman was kinda 30s through 60s in addition to the modern day.
>has no superpowers >has no martial arts training or combat training whatsover >carry's no weapons at all >Has virtually no muscle mass/is a lanklet >still manages to keep Hillwood safe
How does he do it?
Was Grandma actually schizo or was she just putting on an act to cheer up her orphaned grandson and husband who had seemingly lost his only son?
Favorite tenant?
>He's not dead I want my two bucks back
I never got why Ernie is living in the boarding house. He was a demolitions worker who could operate a wrecking ball, something like that should pay decent money and he could live somewhere else unlike Oskar and Mr. Hyunh who were poor, fresh off the boat, immigrants who would have no where else to stay.
i swear they ripped him off from dexters lab
there was an episode were he pays with pennys then the icecream guy spends all night counting them and accidentally smashes the jar then ends up living with wolves under a bridge
I remember that episode. Dexter was a fricked up show in retrospect how often it ended with someone suffering something horrible at the end of the day.
[...] >Lana makes almost no appearance in the final series and was subject to speculation. Online fan 'criminy', who knew Craig Bartlett personally, asked him in a (now deleted) video about the character. The initial idea was that she would "have a crush" on Arnold, and "ask him to do favors and would make Arnold feel a little uncomfortable", according to an archived description by the interviewer. Bartlett's exact words are no longer available, and it is unknown if Lana was intended to be outright predatory or uncomfortably friendly.
>Nevertheless, this concept did not make it to the final version of the character or the series, and the writers did not feel satisfied by their attempts to rewrite the character, so she was removed entirely.
Something like that happened at my first job doing lawns for apartments. One of the tenants was an older, still decent looking woman, with one leg invited me into her apartment an I thought she was trying to come on to me.
>was she just putting on an act to cheer up her orphaned grandson and husband who had seemingly lost his only son?
This, that's the implication made in the show. >I never got why Ernie is living in the boarding house
It could be that he just likes living in the boarders, he's got noone else. Really the only thing I can think of >with one leg invited me into her apartment an I thought she was trying to come on to me.
Go on then, what happened anon?
>just putting on an act
I got that impression, she seemed more with it than Grandpa half the time. >I never got why Ernie is living in the boarding house
He seemed like a lonely guy, he enjoyed the company.
>This, that's the implication made in the show >just putting on an act
One of the many things that in retrospect went over your head as a kid but you get as an adult. Grandma is coping with the sorrow felt by her husband and grandson, same as when you grow up and realize Stoop Kid is a homeless orphan, or when you realize Pigeon Mans flying away into the sunset could be interpreted as him committing suicide.
>He seemed like a lonely guy, he enjoyed the company.
Makes sense based on his character episodes. He falls in love with a model from a catalog and in one episode tries to get Arnold to fill in as his surrogate son. He could have bought a house for himself or rented a modest a modest apartment, but instead chose to live in a place where he could form a surrogate family and share dinner with people every night.
Either that or he was in debt to the mob or his bookie and couldn't afford to live anywhere else.
>Go on then, what happened anon?
She showed me a comic book one of my co-workers had drawn of her. He was an Art Teacher who worked apartment maintenance during the summer and had drawn her a comic book of her as a superhero in 60s/70s style.
In retrospect I should have tried to make better friends with my co-workers and the inhabitants because everything I remember was a very Hey Arnold esque experience of weird people in a run-down apartment complex living and working together and it would be interesting to see where they ended up 10 years later.
>just putting on an act
I got that impression, she seemed more with it than Grandpa half the time. >I never got why Ernie is living in the boarding house
He seemed like a lonely guy, he enjoyed the company.
That's a new one on me. Thanks for sharing. Have one of my favorites.
>probably the biggest being that arnold's parents were originally not supposed to be alive
Craig was a sellout. He made the movie too infantile for mass appeal. Probably to get another season. (The ending of the Jungle Movie was an obvious setup for a new season) The main selling point of Hey Arnold was that it was well grounded and mature while still retaining its child like perspective. It also retroactively ruined it's best episodes like the parents day, pigeon man, chocolate boy and game show episode.
Agree to disagree. I think Craig knew his chances of getting a new season or series of the show are slim, but still possible. So he kept his options open, but overall he made sure to give the fans the closure they wanted. You are probably the first person I've seen have serious seeming complaints about the movie.
Cinemaphile loved it, and as an ardent Hey Arnold fan, I was satisfied with the ending and closure it brought. A series finale should feel a bit bigger and more weighty than the regular episodes in the show, and this did. It's not perfect. There are too many good characters in the show to give them all adequate time, but it still did a good job and was made with lots of love and nods to many things throughout the show's continuity.
I hope you can someday look back with fresh eyes and maybe find some enjoyment out of it. I feel like Arnold and friends, if they were to watch their own movie, would still find things to like about it. Cheers.
>I think Craig
You think wrong. Its why he drastically change the movie with rainbows and sunshine to appease and attract new fans. >A series finale should feel a bit bigger and more weighty than the regular episodes in the show, and this did.
Thats the thing, it didnt feel like a series finale. It was an obvious setup for a new season. A lot of loose ends are not tied up. >There are too many good characters in the show to give them all adequate time, but it still did a good job and was made with lots of love and nods to
All he can do apparently are shallow cameos. And lets be honest here, only Helga is the good character with and in depth in them. The rest are walking stereotypes. Most of the time the show doesnt even have any concrete any continuity save for stories that feature Arnold or Helga.
I hope you can someday look at this show without nostalgia goggles. Because homosexuals like you ruin good cartoons with your yes man attitude more than those who insult it.
>Way to provide evidence there, anon
Lol like you did. Meanwhile, the way he handle the movie you can easily infer he made it to appeal to nostaligays like you. >Literally what there, anon? The movie is so new you cannot have nostalgia for it. The hell are you talking about, son?
Don't pretend to be moronic. I was talking about the series as a whole. >Pffft. Almost made me spit my drink out there. What an absurd thing to say. You clearly didn't watch the show, did you?
I did, but (you) watch the show but didn't pay enough attention to it. Only Helga and Arnold have consistent depth in them. The rest are walking stereotypes which ONLY deviate IF the episode focus on them. For a show that values character relationship and growth they aren't consistent at all. The show always stick to status quo and by the next episode its gone thereby making it hard to sympathies with most of the characters. Sid, Stinky and Harold are still buttholes even after their respective episodes had shown they changed their ways. This just makes them an even bigger butthole than Iggy. Nadine has no personality and no, collecting bugs is not a personality. Eugene and Curly are one dimensional. Most of the episodes specially ones centered around a character are redundant or contradictory. Ex. Fixing Rhonda's snobbiness, Eugene's bad luck, Sid being a traitor. If you really watch the show you would have notice this. >Ah yes, the name-calling. The last ditch effort of those so thoroughly defeated, they can only screen like howler monkies.
Yeah, like your passive aggressive remarks here
That's a new one on me. Thanks for sharing. Have one of my favorites.
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Agree to disagree. I think Craig knew his chances of getting a new season or series of the show are slim, but still possible. So he kept his options open, but overall he made sure to give the fans the closure they wanted. You are probably the first person I've seen have serious seeming complaints about the movie.
Cinemaphile loved it, and as an ardent Hey Arnold fan, I was satisfied with the ending and closure it brought. A series finale should feel a bit bigger and more weighty than the regular episodes in the show, and this did. It's not perfect. There are too many good characters in the show to give them all adequate time, but it still did a good job and was made with lots of love and nods to many things throughout the show's continuity.
I hope you can someday look back with fresh eyes and maybe find some enjoyment out of it. I feel like Arnold and friends, if they were to watch their own movie, would still find things to like about it. Cheers.
are any better. >You clearly don't like Hey Arnold. Be gone, troll, and take your bait with you.
I can actually like the show while giving it concrete criticism unlike dickslurpers like you. What I said still stands true btw. Yes man gays like you who are afraid to give criticism are the reason shows like Hey Arnold can't improve.
It wasn't. It was literally the exact same movie they wanted to release all those years ago. Only problem is, that doesn't seem sufficient anymore given the time that passed and the cult following that built up around the series.
i had no expectations for the movie, i went in thinking wow i cant believe this exists and i was immensly dissappointed
maybe it was shit back then too, im not one to judge still how do you drop the ball like this on what should have been an incredibly easy script to produce
> It was literally the exact same movie
What? No it wasn't, not at all, Craig threw out the original early drafts he wrote with Steve Viksten (rip) in the early 200s because he wanted to start fresh, The original was way different from the one we end up getting, yes there were similarities but here was a bunch of stuff on the cutting room floor and several differences from the one we got, probably the biggest being that arnold's parents were originally not supposed to be alive
>literally the exact same movie
Only with a shoestring budget, limited VA time and rushed scheduling thanks to Nicks kneejerk decision-making.
this too, the new movie was shortened alot for time, It was only like an hour and 15 minutes and you can see alot of cut lines from videos that the storyboards have posted online that probably never got to final animation
i had no expectations for the movie, i went in thinking wow i cant believe this exists and i was immensly dissappointed
maybe it was shit back then too, im not one to judge still how do you drop the ball like this on what should have been an incredibly easy script to produce
>maybe it was shit back then too
Nah, it's just the movie.
>probably the biggest being that arnold's parents were originally not supposed to be alive
Craig was a sellout. He made the movie too infantile for mass appeal. Probably to get another season. (The ending of the Jungle Movie was an obvious setup for a new season) The main selling point of Hey Arnold was that it was well grounded and mature while still retaining its child like perspective. It also retroactively ruined it's best episodes like the parents day, pigeon man, chocolate boy and game show episode.
Yeah, like I understand why he did it, but it is gay. It could have avoided that had it been made when it was originally supposed to. >It also retroactively ruined it's best episodes like the parents day, pigeon man, chocolate boy and game show episode.
Disagree those episodes are still very enjoyable
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Originally Jungle Movie and Rugrats Go Wild were suppose to be TV based specials but it tested well with screen testers that they shifted them to theatrical.
When they did disappointedly, Nick cancelled Jungle Movie, and Craig left to work for CN to pitch his pilot, and originally Nick wanted Craig to work exclusively for them which he turned down.
>Originally Jungle Movie and Rugrats Go Wild were suppose to be TV based specials but it tested well with screen testers that they shifted them to theatrical.
I assume you meant the original movie and not TJM and just mistyped but if not: Rugrats Go Wild yes, Jungle Movie no. TJM was from it's outset always meant to be theatrical, The first movie was the one that was supposed to be a tv special, but some exec thought it was good enough for the big screen, Most of the animation if not all was already done, so they only redid the main character's animation, arnold, helga gerald and sheck, If you ever wondered why those characters look different from the rest that's why. Also Party Wagon is a fun watch.
>Disagree those episodes are still very enjoyable
How? The emotion they tried to convey on those episodes became pointless. It's like that time when futurama writers changed seymour asses tragic fate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh, so you're one of those.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Huh?
TJM is so different from the actual show and so far removed from it that I see them as two different things, in the context of the episodes and in the original show they still work, tjm is easy to disregard
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kek
So it does retroactively ruin those episodes but you just choose to ignore TJM.
2 years ago
Anonymous
it doesn't, still good episodes, I don't hate tjm that much, it's just whatever
2 years ago
Anonymous
So continuity doesnt matter to you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hey Arnold always had horrendous continuity, any sign of character development will be vaporized the next episode
2 years ago
Anonymous
This
Show was on the verge of greatness
2 years ago
Anonymous
what character development?
2 years ago
Anonymous
not him but obviously
2 years ago
Anonymous
forgot pic
2 years ago
Anonymous
Which equals zero
Nothing she learns matters
2 years ago
Anonymous
That'd be implying there was anything learned that would matter in the first place
2 years ago
Anonymous
Her garbage therapy episode for instance
2 years ago
Anonymous
What exactly was even learned anon?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>feel sorry for me
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't stick your dick in crazy?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You know, when I think of a Helga episode, I always remember the one where she framed the babysitter for stealing from Big Bob. It is depressing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
TJM is so different from the actual show and so far removed from it that I see them as two different things, in the context of the episodes and in the original show they still work, tjm is easy to disregard
Bartlett didn't, Steve Lotwait did it I believe? a storyboarder for the show and the original jungle movie, he may have been brought back for the new one but I don't remember
2 years ago
Anonymous
No shit I'm wrong, it was Raymie Muzquiz, He only directed the last two episodes of the show and went on to direct the new jungle movie
2 years ago
Anonymous
How did this art leak? He's a madlad.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>thought it was gonna be some early series lisa simpsons in grass skirt shit >fricking nipples and vulva
Oh lawdy
2 years ago
Anonymous
The weirdest part is how RHONDA is the one in that outfit, since she is such a proud fashionista.
>The original was way different from the one we end up getting
Are the scripts available online? Or is there at least a source that details all the differences?
There's no script online unfortunately, but you can find concept art of cut scenes online, Craig has also talked about things that were either added of changed and how the original drafts he wrote with steve were very different, the nu jungle movie does feel very different from the show, it's and clear that's steve's death was apart of that
>The series is dead
for the best
the jungle movie was fine. we got closure.
if it got a continuation we'd get something stupid like one of them becomes a streamer or like Harold becomes trans.
Craig never wanted tjm to be the last arnold thing, even back in the 2000's, he's said he's always had more to tell with it
I've always thought the idea of Arnold's parents being Christ-like Indiana Jones superheroes involved with a tribe of supernatural natives was a little much for the show. Pre-TJM, I kind of preferred to think that Phil largely made up the contents of the journal to give Arnold a comforting and aspirational story about his parents, who were probably just dead or at least missing in reality, and that he'd work up the nerve to tell him the truth when he was older and probably figured out what was going on anyway. I never even liked the idea of TJM all that much, because the show was pretty distinctly just a story about inner city life with a touch of magical realism spicing it up, and a full-fledged Indiana Jones movie was too much if a departure from that (although the more consistent Arnold movie we did get back when the show was airing didn't seem to do well, so what do I know?). I think I liked TJM when we finally got it--the long wait made the complete closure it gave Arnold and Helga on everything feel earned--but the weakest parts were indeed the jungle parts. The supernatural elements of Arnold were always more subtle than that cartoonish sleeping sickness that inexplicably didn't kill anybody. Helga's locket turning out to be the key to everything was a clever touch, though.
> largely made up the contents of the journal to give Arnold a comforting and aspirational story about his parents
He didn't even know the journal existed before the episode they found it, he did already do that though
>Craig never wanted tjm to be the last arnold thing, even back in the 2000's, he's said he's always had more to tell with it
Everything we know about the Patakis spinoff was just bleak and a little too edgy, so perhaps it's for the best this is it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
to be fair, the show itself went into that territory with helga's episodes
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, and a darker tone would be appropriate, but "Gerald gets Phoebe teen pregnant and she aborts it" is just a little too much. It's getting into Duke's Lemon Pudding pasta readings territory.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's no way Craig would've done that, it would've just been more overt with miriam drinking problem
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Everything we know about the Patakis spinoff was just bleak and a little too edgy, so perhaps it's for the best this is it.
agreed
> It was literally the exact same movie
What? No it wasn't, not at all, Craig threw out the original early drafts he wrote with Steve Viksten (rip) in the early 200s because he wanted to start fresh, The original was way different from the one we end up getting, yes there were similarities but here was a bunch of stuff on the cutting room floor and several differences from the one we got, probably the biggest being that arnold's parents were originally not supposed to be alive
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this too, the new movie was shortened alot for time, It was only like an hour and 15 minutes and you can see alot of cut lines from videos that the storyboards have posted online that probably never got to final animation
[...] >maybe it was shit back then too
Nah, it's just the movie.
Originally Jungle Movie and Rugrats Go Wild were suppose to be TV based specials but it tested well with screen testers that they shifted them to theatrical.
When they did disappointedly, Nick cancelled Jungle Movie, and Craig left to work for CN to pitch his pilot, and originally Nick wanted Craig to work exclusively for them which he turned down.
>The series is dead
for the best
the jungle movie was fine. we got closure.
if it got a continuation we'd get something stupid like one of them becomes a streamer or like Harold becomes trans.
i swear they ripped him off from dexters lab
there was an episode were he pays with pennys then the icecream guy spends all night counting them and accidentally smashes the jar then ends up living with wolves under a bridge
>a wagie >a socially awkward wagie forced to work for kids >literally can't be fired because it's his dad's business >Untouchable, gives zero fricks, hates his job, but can't break being perpetually stuck enough to get into something he likes. >Maybe also some mental health shit he and his dad can't afford to deal with so this is the only option they see.
I enjoyed all the perspectives on the show but there was nothing boring about Arnold episodes.
No, they should have learned how to keep Arnold more interesting because he's the MAIN CHARACTER.
They simply forgot that he worked because he was a regular kid with an eccentric family who always wound up in unlucky or unusual situations. He could try to have the Perfect Saturday and suffer a string of setbacks, or he could get lost in the sewers with Gerald and meet the goddamned Sewer King chasing after a pocketwatch. He was very versatile, which a good MC needs. There was nothing wrong with him until they reduced him to a paragon.
Anyone else think the ep where the model didn't want to date ernie was wrong? Shouldn't she be allowed to date a guy she finds attractive, she even went on one date with him instead of rejecting him.
"You don't know anything about the girl you're crushing on from afar and she's probably a completely uninteresting person outside of her looks and the fictional possibilities you're inventing in your daydreams" is such a good lesson to teach. Can't think of much else that did that.
The show is episodic because of Nickelodeon airing its episodes in random rerun order, continuity was basically non existent for any cartoon at that time. Only anime did and Toonami was extremely dedicated to airing episodes in order, but other than Toonami networks actually just grabbed shit out of a hat and let it rock that day.
This is Helga's crowning moment. She didn't even WANT Arnold to know she did this. A truly selfless deed. Only a truly good person would sacrifice so much with zero gain or recognition.
Totally true. That and Thanksgiving ep were the best episodes with Helga and Arnold. I absolutely love how they initially catch atmoshere of "small men" in an uncaring and ignorant world and then show how Helga and Arnold trying to fight this unstoppable force in pursuit of their own happines amd miraculously they win toghether. That bittersweet ending in that episedoses always catches me.
Alsi really love both Fair episodes, that scene in the emd with Helga alone wathcing everyone, especially Arnold go away so fits her. Her desperate sruggle against everyone, just trying to catch some peace for her soul, and that emding. Mey, that's so beatiful in it's reality, i can't even catch the words
>Arnold's dick head is also football shaped >Helga's holes are permanently stretched and deformed into a football shape to accommodate >She says "Move it, football head!" when she wants him to start thrusting harder
I've always thought the idea of Arnold's parents being Christ-like Indiana Jones superheroes involved with a tribe of supernatural natives was a little much for the show. Pre-TJM, I kind of preferred to think that Phil largely made up the contents of the journal to give Arnold a comforting and aspirational story about his parents, who were probably just dead or at least missing in reality, and that he'd work up the nerve to tell him the truth when he was older and probably figured out what was going on anyway. I never even liked the idea of TJM all that much, because the show was pretty distinctly just a story about inner city life with a touch of magical realism spicing it up, and a full-fledged Indiana Jones movie was too much if a departure from that (although the more consistent Arnold movie we did get back when the show was airing didn't seem to do well, so what do I know?). I think I liked TJM when we finally got it--the long wait made the complete closure it gave Arnold and Helga on everything feel earned--but the weakest parts were indeed the jungle parts. The supernatural elements of Arnold were always more subtle than that cartoonish sleeping sickness that inexplicably didn't kill anybody. Helga's locket turning out to be the key to everything was a clever touch, though.
The Jungle Movie kinda messed up everything, It felt like a weird fanfic interpretation of what the movie would be. I was really hoping for something way more grounded, not Arnold is jesus.
she has a dismissive, ambitious father, an alcoholic mother, and a neurotic, attention-hogging, hyper-competent older sister.
the fact that she's unusually bright, but also only a little obsessive/dramatic and a little cruel despite these setbacks is nothing short of a miracle.
Helga is best girl, and I'm tired of pretending she's not
Is it even possible for another slice of life show to reach HA's level. You can't write a slice of life about people who with no life, so it couldn't really be set in the present unless you just pretend people ignore their smartphones like TLH does.
It's more than possible to make another comfy SoL show like Hey Arnold. The problem is the market. That's not what "the people" want. Kids want stupid, quick humor, lore, etc. The market now is escapism. I want to get away from my life, not be reminded of it.
It's more than possible to make another comfy SoL show like Hey Arnold. The problem is the market. That's not what "the people" want. Kids want stupid, quick humor, lore, etc. The market now is escapism. I want to get away from my life, not be reminded of it.
Too many people are addicted to escapism these days, we need more grounded fiction.
I think we might get there eventually. In the sense that people want to relate to the stories they see. It might be a gradual shift, but I think we can get there. We just need the right people to come along and make such a show.
>What if we paint the house in Vanishing cream, then it will be invisible! >That is the STUPIDEST idea I ever heard. What if it rains? Y'ever think about that Kokoshka? It'll wash the vanishing cream right off!
>The creative use of camera angles throughout this scene
You know that phrase "you don't know what you have until it's gone"?
God I miss cartoons doing that.
>When she came back for Jungle Movie, it was like she never left. Great actress. I wonder why she doesn't do other voice work.
it's interesting she basically stopped acting or voice acting completely in 2003 when she was 18, and only came back in 2017 specifically to reprise Helga for TJM and then again this year to provide lines for Helga for All-Star Brawl, so presumably she just lost interest in acting once she reached adulthood and only came back for Helga due to her connection to the role
I think there was also some nick all star tennis game for ios that she came back for that was released not too long ago, but including the stuff you said that's about it, She does seem to like and have fun being Helga when she does reprise her though, I'm sure it's nice to break up whatever professor stuff she usually does
Hey, is there a decent torrent hanging about?
I've been meaning to watch this show properly since I was a kid who didn't get cable but loved every episode I saw.
However, I can see this as being one of those shows that companies will ignore instead of put them on bluray, hence my concern about a decent torrent.
It makes sense. Bartlett is amazing with fans, so he won't do it. Same reason he had Arnold's parents alive. BULLSHIT! But he does it all for the fans...
So, often he will make a choice that pleases fans rather than one that makes sense...
In a real relationship with Arnold, her insecurities would gradually drop off, and he would support her and allow her to understand that the way she is treated by her family is abusive and wrong... She represses her real self for fear of being humiliated... I'm kind of surprised the teacher didn't pick up that something was wrong at home, given her poetry against her classroom behavior.
Helga is a hardcore romantic. In Arnold's nightmare with fake Lila and Helga, the Helga in that dream is more accurate to how she really is.
>the Helga in that dream is more accurate to how she really is.
That IS her, the real her behind the mask she puts on, the her only arnold see's and the one he falls for. I wouldn't say it's more feminine necessarily just far less brash
I think part and part, because she does genuinely enjoy watching wrestling etc. She does enjoy at least some things which are not stereotypically girly.
As compared to Lila, she's dramatically more romantic, but a bit less feminine. But only because Lila is literally like, a caricature of the "perfect girl". Which IIRC was the title of the episode she premiered in.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Romantic tomboy is probably the best description of her
>Helga in that dream is more accurate to how she really is
No. Just no. You making the same mistake as Arnold in ep where Helga acted like Lila. Helga is romantic as much as she is cynical and harsh. That's just her different sides, you can't throw away one of them and claim that another is "her true self".
Her ccynicsm is her armor.
How many examples of a relatioship did she have?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Her cynism is result of her life experience. She had seen life in not all brights and sunshine and that way can't fall back in childish pretending that all is good. Sure there is problems with selfcontrol, but she is nine year old.
Also btw if you'll watch all her cynical comments, than you'll understand that at least 70% of them were true and only Arnolds dumb luck made them get away.
Also i really dislike how authors make Arnold win in nearly every contest or competition he partitioned. Like how in the hell he won in that eating contest?
Training in obraining parallel dimension inside his stomach?
Arnold was a Gary Stu, every episode they make him really good at something for the sake of plot, and half the time there wasn't even a message from it.
True. Really wish there would be more ep where he would be at least second or even there would compete another his classmate.
Arnold was a Gary Stu, every episode they make him really good at something for the sake of plot, and half the time there wasn't even a message from it.
Would have been a much more interesting episode if they followed up on Arnold not wanting to partake in the eating contest despite it being sort of a family tradition
Also good take. Though i think Arnold despite some of his rationalism has a weak spot for "family traditions". Like compensating his unusual family and feeling connection to grandparents.
Great thread, this was one of favorite shows growing up along with rugrats. Hey Arnold had a weird vibe to it, it was a kids show that also had some dramatic and sad moments to it. I only saw the first movie but I read the plot summary for the last one on wikipedia. I think Arnold’s parents being alive after all this time goes against the theme of the show, which I always interpreted as gently showing kids that life is never what you expect. His parents being dead has always been implied (at least to me) and I would have liked the crowing achievement/lesson of the show to be Arnold accepting that they’re dead and moving on.
The final revelation of Hey Arnold is that Arnold's mother died in childbirth from his football head destroying her guts on the way out, and his father killed himself out of grief.
Speaking of fan creations and continuation of this show
What ficks do u like? I personally absolutely love "Salted Nut Rolls" by Commander. That fic and other his ficks about HA! so fricking fits in post-HA! place with more serious and adult themes so I cannot help but dream about what would be if it would be ecranized.
>Was Jamie O gay after he got used like a dirty sock by that bawd in the early seasons? Why wasn't he interested in Chloey?
he's like 16 or 17 and she's like 12 at the oldest
Wasn't she like 12 or 13 and Jamie O was 16 or 17? You look kind of weird being that age, messing around with middle schoolers.
Shit, somehow, I was in the same situation, but I turned her down because I didn't want to look like a creep. Then a few years later as a Sr, I had this Freshman girl who was crushing on me but I didn't go after her, but then one of my friends who was the same age ended up dating her. That one I regret not going after lol.
I'm 33. This was back in '05-07. IDK, it just seemed weird to me, and I'm sure I would have gotten some shit, but not as bad as if this happened today, I'll give you that.
Episode that always stuck with me was Dino Checks Out. The first half is played straight in thinking Dino committed suicide and showing how everyone reacted to it, a mix of sadness and cynicism. Know very few if any cartoons that bring up the topic. Second half of the episode is still fun, though.
>ponies
Only because Cinemaphile is still paranoid about horse show that shall not be named overtaking the board (which it will) >toddlers
Say hi to the Loud House threads for me
There's an episode where Helga and Bob see a broadway musical and another episode where Arnold and the gang see an opera. There's definitely elements of NYC there.
I known for so long that it wasn't that I don't think it's weird at all
It felt more generic city than NYC really hard to pinpoint where exactly for the longest
New York is actually seen in one episode (where Arnold and Helga got married) but in a dream sequence. Either Hillwood is more blatantly like NYC in Helgas dream, or her and Arnold moved from Hillwood to NYC after they went to Venice.
Tried looking for it but wasn't able to find it, It was on his personal insta and I remember the post having a scan of the background shown here
[...]
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New York is actually seen in one episode (where Arnold and Helga got married) but in a dream sequence. Either Hillwood is more blatantly like NYC in Helgas dream, or her and Arnold moved from Hillwood to NYC after they went to Venice.
>Getting head from the local redhead girl to help pay for her dad's medical bills> Literally a whole line of dudes waiting to get sucked with a donation box near by >Her selling her virginity at an auction so that she can go to college > Her having to let her boss do anal so that she can get that promotion
And all at the age of 14. She truly is gifted/
I always love these horrific greentexts. A short, often chilling, story unsettling me from complacency. It doesn't make me feel good but at least I feel something.
>used to fall asleep every other day to the near constant late night reruns of hey arnold and other comfy old nicktoons on that late night teennick programming block TV through the 2010s >of course it eventually gets old but after falling into another cycle for sleeping decide i want to do that again for old times sake a few weeks ago >entire late night schedule for weeks on end is just fricking icarly
what the hell i know a network cant live off of nostalgic cartoons forever but why icarly and only icarly
Yeah, I was just thinking about that like a day ago too, I miss seeing a variety of old nicktoons but It's just been fricking Icarly, I assume it's to promote the new paramount plus show that noone watches , I hope it goes back soon
It's because he talked about on his blog how he was talking to a nickelodeon executive who was gloating about how much money she's going to make on that cgi Alvan and the chipmunk cartoon even though she doesn't even care about cartoons
He also said how they will just buy the rights to whatever cartoon pitch but won't use them unless they need it
They started doing live action Dan Schneider stuff around 2006, and earlier if you want to include Dake and Josh and Zoey 101. Similar to how Cartoon Network did that weird CN Real shit back in the day with all those stupid live action shows nobody remembers.
Stinky was a fricking chad. The way he gets over Helga and gives her the could shoulder. The time he turned down 1 million dollars to keep his dignity. Puts away Mr. Nutty bars like they're nothing.
Absolute king.
so many comfy backgrounds and areas in the city
Sneeee-oosh
Did it influence your taste in music? There's a short list of places I could have learned to appreciate jazz and chill tunes.
No! Stop reminding people of this episode.
Great episode
>Blushing
Reminder humiliation is his fetish
How so?
He falls for the girl who bullies him publicly on a daily basis
why do you have to pervert everything?
Is a Cinemaphile tradition
>because i'm here, i must also debase myself.
Where do you think you are
No, it isn't. He's blushing from embarrassment.
Something broke inside him after that episode
Yeah this was blatant case of pic related.
You know what pisses me off the most about this particular episode?
It isn't just how unfair it was to Arnold, but rather how Stinky and motherf*cking Sid get away unpunished.
Take for example the Phoebe Fart episode (another fetish episode?), Harold was the main instigator of the bullying, but ultimately is punished at the end.
Here, both Arnold and Iggy (who I'm not excusing, mind you) end up at the receiving end of the punishment, but the real instigators get out on top. Damn that pissed me off whenever I remember this shit.
For me, it was that and how the entire city, including Arnold's own family, suddenly thought bunny pajamas were an uproariously, side-splittingly hilarious concept, let alone bunny pajamas put on as part of a predetermined display rather than a personal secret that got out.
>Nooo not my heckin Arnold getting his own medicine
He deserved it
Perhaps
In what way?
Reminder that the next time Iggy gets a bigger role, he's in literal stocks.
he never got another bigger role though
"Gerald's Game"
Great show, comfy usually but don't forget it's the same show where a child gets mugged and suffers mild ptsd because of it.
you know... Oskar's kinda cute in a pathetic sorta way
i wanna bully him
Kitty kitty kitty do I want to pet the kitty? Yes I want to pet the kitty. Look everyone I'm petting the kitty ahehehhehe
How is he still living in the house even after Suzie left? He can't afford rent on his own.
she still pays his rent
Maybe Grandma and Grandpa felt bad for him and are either giving him really cheap rent until he gets on his feet (But he never will because that's what people like Oscar do is take advantage) or Susie's still paying for him because she's too soft hearted to leave him completely struggling. It'll take her awhile before she's strong enough to stop supporting him.
Best care scenario, she meets a hot rich guy that appreciates her and understands her and because it gives her much needed peace of mind while letting her have some independence, he pays for Oscar's room instead so Susie can finally live.
Oskar was fricking based
Was this one of those "i can fix him" relationships?
More she just kinda rushed into marriage with some guy to piss off her parent's and ended up regretting it
That remind me about Suzie sister and those nasty rumors involving Arnold. The writers totally dropped that plot.
>those nasty rumors involving Arnold
what ones anon
>Lana makes almost no appearance in the final series and was subject to speculation. Online fan 'criminy', who knew Craig Bartlett personally, asked him in a (now deleted) video about the character. The initial idea was that she would "have a crush" on Arnold, and "ask him to do favors and would make Arnold feel a little uncomfortable", according to an archived description by the interviewer. Bartlett's exact words are no longer available, and it is unknown if Lana was intended to be outright predatory or uncomfortably friendly.
>Nevertheless, this concept did not make it to the final version of the character or the series, and the writers did not feel satisfied by their attempts to rewrite the character, so she was removed entirely.
Forgot image. She wasn't Suzie's sister, just another boarder
Suzie's sister showed up in a s4 (or s5?) episode Oskar's baby, Where she dropped off her Kid to be watched by the kakoshka's, that's what that anon is talking about, not lana
I thought he was mistaking her for Lana because of dropped plot and rumor. I don't remember the sister having anything like that.
he might've been talking about that, otherwise I don't what the frick he was talking about with "nasty rumors"
I can only imagine the rage Helga would feel at a boarder trying to muscle in on her turf. It would have been 100000000000000000000000000000000% K I N O
It woulda been a funny way to write her out, Helga getting mad at her and then later in the episode Lana is escorted out of the house by cops as a background event and Grandpa just makes a throwaway comment later "that lady kept picking the garden vegetables early" or something like that
>the evidence for this claim is "now deleted"
How convenient for the no-life wiki editor who made this up.
what about that mysterious spy guy that only got his food via dumbwaiter and other stuff, did anything ever happen there?
I swear I remember this character asking how old Arnold was in the show. Maybe I made that up.
She only ever had one line in "heat", something about telling him how hot it wa
s and if cold air is a little too much to ask for
Absolutely disgusting
SEÑOR KOKACHA
can't you read mister
>"Arnold as Cupid"
>Susie starting to cream herself over Oskar saying "You keep the money."
>Oskar then says "Oh, Susie" as if he just received the best handjob of his life.
Susie's cute, I would susie man
Gerald should've smacked Phoebe's butt at one point in the Jungle Movie:
kino
this is the 3rd one I've made, been watching the show for the 1st time, at the end of season 2
so that spot on his head is just completely bald?
in the original show yes
God I loved that episode...
Why do many hey Arnold threads recently?
Because I need it
Why do you need it anon?
we all want our thirsty weirdo stalker gf.
why is gerald there?
He was helping Arnold run between dates remember?
He was Arnold's wingman if I remember correctly
Bros can be valentines
He cucks Arnold out of his pen pal, at the end.
this would have been funnier had she been drawn to look... anything like the character, and been drawn half japanese like the character instead of some vague type of mediterranean.
yeah it's like some tumblr shit
indeed. which makes me wonder if this artist even gets the joke.
i need the name of this artist
learn 2 read
There's too many whites in this show's location for it to make sense
Realistically Arnold would be the only white kid
It was 1996
The city arnold lives in is an amalgamation of several cities low income housing districts. Lots of europeans, israelites, n' Irish in those my dude.
jesus christ
Meh no one care about this back then, i don't get why you care right now.
Plus there were multiple ethnics in the show.
Frick off.
Back to
Contrary to popular belief the show was set in Washington, not New York.
>Sign when Helga and her mom are driving back home says "Welcome to Washington State"
>Arnold's apartment is located underneath what resembles Seattle's Alaskan Way Viaduct
>Hillwood is along the Skookumchuck River which is a real river in Washington
>Elk Island on the Skookumchuck River resembles the San Juan Islands in Washington
>Phoebe has a poster that advertises Tacoma Marine Park
>Redwood forests outside of town
>Pig War is a plot point in the show, this was a real war between Washington and British Columbia
Does washington have more whites?
Washington is almost all white besides the reservations
Yeah
Washington is full of whites and Asians.
It's based on Seattle from Craig Bartlett's childhood, during which the city was ~90% white. That's also the reason why his generation turned it into a city of extreme leftist homosexuals who are naive about non-whites.
i always felt like this show was supposed to half take place in the 20s-30s, kinda like how Batman was kinda 30s through 60s in addition to the modern day.
The creep's missing. You know the one who cannot hold his breath and Helga has to beat him on his nose.
https://heyarnold.fandom.com/wiki/Brainy
He said maybe five words in the entire series.
Eugene was only cursed because he wore socks with thongs. What a weirdo.
You forgot Helga the psychopath.
Take that back.
He is right you now, Helga was a little crazy.
You forget about the actual weirdos like pigeon man, mokeyman and the sewer king.
Pigeon man probably have depression
>has no superpowers
>has no martial arts training or combat training whatsover
>carry's no weapons at all
>Has virtually no muscle mass/is a lanklet
>still manages to keep Hillwood safe
How does he do it?
>How does he do it?
He gives the villains monkeynucleosis.
Lila is falling in love with the idea of someone rather than the person themself.
Was Grandma actually schizo or was she just putting on an act to cheer up her orphaned grandson and husband who had seemingly lost his only son?
>He's not dead I want my two bucks back
I never got why Ernie is living in the boarding house. He was a demolitions worker who could operate a wrecking ball, something like that should pay decent money and he could live somewhere else unlike Oskar and Mr. Hyunh who were poor, fresh off the boat, immigrants who would have no where else to stay.
I remember that episode. Dexter was a fricked up show in retrospect how often it ended with someone suffering something horrible at the end of the day.
Something like that happened at my first job doing lawns for apartments. One of the tenants was an older, still decent looking woman, with one leg invited me into her apartment an I thought she was trying to come on to me.
>was she just putting on an act to cheer up her orphaned grandson and husband who had seemingly lost his only son?
This, that's the implication made in the show.
>I never got why Ernie is living in the boarding house
It could be that he just likes living in the boarders, he's got noone else. Really the only thing I can think of
>with one leg invited me into her apartment an I thought she was trying to come on to me.
Go on then, what happened anon?
>This, that's the implication made in the show
>just putting on an act
One of the many things that in retrospect went over your head as a kid but you get as an adult. Grandma is coping with the sorrow felt by her husband and grandson, same as when you grow up and realize Stoop Kid is a homeless orphan, or when you realize Pigeon Mans flying away into the sunset could be interpreted as him committing suicide.
>He seemed like a lonely guy, he enjoyed the company.
Makes sense based on his character episodes. He falls in love with a model from a catalog and in one episode tries to get Arnold to fill in as his surrogate son. He could have bought a house for himself or rented a modest a modest apartment, but instead chose to live in a place where he could form a surrogate family and share dinner with people every night.
Either that or he was in debt to the mob or his bookie and couldn't afford to live anywhere else.
>Go on then, what happened anon?
She showed me a comic book one of my co-workers had drawn of her. He was an Art Teacher who worked apartment maintenance during the summer and had drawn her a comic book of her as a superhero in 60s/70s style.
In retrospect I should have tried to make better friends with my co-workers and the inhabitants because everything I remember was a very Hey Arnold esque experience of weird people in a run-down apartment complex living and working together and it would be interesting to see where they ended up 10 years later.
>just putting on an act
I got that impression, she seemed more with it than Grandpa half the time.
>I never got why Ernie is living in the boarding house
He seemed like a lonely guy, he enjoyed the company.
Lila might be a Mormon.
Lila was just poor af. I don't think she had anything, I don't think she's snything but like naive
That's a new one on me. Thanks for sharing. Have one of my favorites.
Agree to disagree. I think Craig knew his chances of getting a new season or series of the show are slim, but still possible. So he kept his options open, but overall he made sure to give the fans the closure they wanted. You are probably the first person I've seen have serious seeming complaints about the movie.
Cinemaphile loved it, and as an ardent Hey Arnold fan, I was satisfied with the ending and closure it brought. A series finale should feel a bit bigger and more weighty than the regular episodes in the show, and this did. It's not perfect. There are too many good characters in the show to give them all adequate time, but it still did a good job and was made with lots of love and nods to many things throughout the show's continuity.
I hope you can someday look back with fresh eyes and maybe find some enjoyment out of it. I feel like Arnold and friends, if they were to watch their own movie, would still find things to like about it. Cheers.
>I think Craig
You think wrong. Its why he drastically change the movie with rainbows and sunshine to appease and attract new fans.
>A series finale should feel a bit bigger and more weighty than the regular episodes in the show, and this did.
Thats the thing, it didnt feel like a series finale. It was an obvious setup for a new season. A lot of loose ends are not tied up.
>There are too many good characters in the show to give them all adequate time, but it still did a good job and was made with lots of love and nods to
All he can do apparently are shallow cameos. And lets be honest here, only Helga is the good character with and in depth in them. The rest are walking stereotypes. Most of the time the show doesnt even have any concrete any continuity save for stories that feature Arnold or Helga.
I hope you can someday look at this show without nostalgia goggles. Because homosexuals like you ruin good cartoons with your yes man attitude more than those who insult it.
>>I think Craig
>You think wrong.
Way to provide evidence there, anon. Oh wait, you didn't. For any of your points.
>I hope you can someday look at this show without nostalgia goggles.
>nostalgia goggles
Literally what there, anon? The movie is so new you cannot have nostalgia for it. The hell are you talking about, son?
>And lets be honest here, only Helga is the good character with and in depth in them. The rest are walking stereotypes.
Pffft. Almost made me spit my drink out there. What an absurd thing to say. You clearly didn't watch the show, did you?
> Because homosexuals like you ruin good cartoons with your yes man attitude more than those who insult it.
Ah yes, the name-calling. The last ditch effort of those so thoroughly defeated, they can only screen like howler monkies.
You clearly don't like Hey Arnold. Be gone, troll, and take your bait with you.
>Way to provide evidence there, anon
Lol like you did. Meanwhile, the way he handle the movie you can easily infer he made it to appeal to nostaligays like you.
>Literally what there, anon? The movie is so new you cannot have nostalgia for it. The hell are you talking about, son?
Don't pretend to be moronic. I was talking about the series as a whole.
>Pffft. Almost made me spit my drink out there. What an absurd thing to say. You clearly didn't watch the show, did you?
I did, but (you) watch the show but didn't pay enough attention to it. Only Helga and Arnold have consistent depth in them. The rest are walking stereotypes which ONLY deviate IF the episode focus on them. For a show that values character relationship and growth they aren't consistent at all. The show always stick to status quo and by the next episode its gone thereby making it hard to sympathies with most of the characters. Sid, Stinky and Harold are still buttholes even after their respective episodes had shown they changed their ways. This just makes them an even bigger butthole than Iggy. Nadine has no personality and no, collecting bugs is not a personality. Eugene and Curly are one dimensional. Most of the episodes specially ones centered around a character are redundant or contradictory. Ex. Fixing Rhonda's snobbiness, Eugene's bad luck, Sid being a traitor. If you really watch the show you would have notice this.
>Ah yes, the name-calling. The last ditch effort of those so thoroughly defeated, they can only screen like howler monkies.
Yeah, like your passive aggressive remarks here
are any better.
>You clearly don't like Hey Arnold. Be gone, troll, and take your bait with you.
I can actually like the show while giving it concrete criticism unlike dickslurpers like you. What I said still stands true btw. Yes man gays like you who are afraid to give criticism are the reason shows like Hey Arnold can't improve.
bamo
What are we going to do on the bed?
Welcome back, Smeet.
Holy Based
>its a stinky episode
nice
how was the movie so bad?
It wasn't. It was literally the exact same movie they wanted to release all those years ago. Only problem is, that doesn't seem sufficient anymore given the time that passed and the cult following that built up around the series.
i had no expectations for the movie, i went in thinking wow i cant believe this exists and i was immensly dissappointed
maybe it was shit back then too, im not one to judge still how do you drop the ball like this on what should have been an incredibly easy script to produce
>literally the exact same movie
Only with a shoestring budget, limited VA time and rushed scheduling thanks to Nicks kneejerk decision-making.
> It was literally the exact same movie
What? No it wasn't, not at all, Craig threw out the original early drafts he wrote with Steve Viksten (rip) in the early 200s because he wanted to start fresh, The original was way different from the one we end up getting, yes there were similarities but here was a bunch of stuff on the cutting room floor and several differences from the one we got, probably the biggest being that arnold's parents were originally not supposed to be alive
this too, the new movie was shortened alot for time, It was only like an hour and 15 minutes and you can see alot of cut lines from videos that the storyboards have posted online that probably never got to final animation
>maybe it was shit back then too
Nah, it's just the movie.
meant to say
*there was a bunch of stuff
not "here"
>probably the biggest being that arnold's parents were originally not supposed to be alive
Craig was a sellout. He made the movie too infantile for mass appeal. Probably to get another season. (The ending of the Jungle Movie was an obvious setup for a new season) The main selling point of Hey Arnold was that it was well grounded and mature while still retaining its child like perspective. It also retroactively ruined it's best episodes like the parents day, pigeon man, chocolate boy and game show episode.
Yeah, like I understand why he did it, but it is gay. It could have avoided that had it been made when it was originally supposed to.
>It also retroactively ruined it's best episodes like the parents day, pigeon man, chocolate boy and game show episode.
Disagree those episodes are still very enjoyable
>Originally Jungle Movie and Rugrats Go Wild were suppose to be TV based specials but it tested well with screen testers that they shifted them to theatrical.
I assume you meant the original movie and not TJM and just mistyped but if not: Rugrats Go Wild yes, Jungle Movie no. TJM was from it's outset always meant to be theatrical, The first movie was the one that was supposed to be a tv special, but some exec thought it was good enough for the big screen, Most of the animation if not all was already done, so they only redid the main character's animation, arnold, helga gerald and sheck, If you ever wondered why those characters look different from the rest that's why. Also Party Wagon is a fun watch.
oh ok sowwy anon
>Disagree those episodes are still very enjoyable
How? The emotion they tried to convey on those episodes became pointless. It's like that time when futurama writers changed seymour asses tragic fate.
Oh, so you're one of those.
Huh?
So it does retroactively ruin those episodes but you just choose to ignore TJM.
it doesn't, still good episodes, I don't hate tjm that much, it's just whatever
So continuity doesnt matter to you?
Hey Arnold always had horrendous continuity, any sign of character development will be vaporized the next episode
This
Show was on the verge of greatness
what character development?
not him but obviously
forgot pic
Which equals zero
Nothing she learns matters
That'd be implying there was anything learned that would matter in the first place
Her garbage therapy episode for instance
What exactly was even learned anon?
>feel sorry for me
Don't stick your dick in crazy?
You know, when I think of a Helga episode, I always remember the one where she framed the babysitter for stealing from Big Bob. It is depressing.
TJM is so different from the actual show and so far removed from it that I see them as two different things, in the context of the episodes and in the original show they still work, tjm is easy to disregard
kek
What the hell, is this real? Bartlett drew this?
Is Rhonda naked?
Bartlett didn't, Steve Lotwait did it I believe? a storyboarder for the show and the original jungle movie, he may have been brought back for the new one but I don't remember
No shit I'm wrong, it was Raymie Muzquiz, He only directed the last two episodes of the show and went on to direct the new jungle movie
How did this art leak? He's a madlad.
>thought it was gonna be some early series lisa simpsons in grass skirt shit
>fricking nipples and vulva
Oh lawdy
The weirdest part is how RHONDA is the one in that outfit, since she is such a proud fashionista.
Yeah craig sold out
>The original was way different from the one we end up getting
Are the scripts available online? Or is there at least a source that details all the differences?
There's no script online unfortunately, but you can find concept art of cut scenes online, Craig has also talked about things that were either added of changed and how the original drafts he wrote with steve were very different, the nu jungle movie does feel very different from the show, it's and clear that's steve's death was apart of that
Craig never wanted tjm to be the last arnold thing, even back in the 2000's, he's said he's always had more to tell with it
> largely made up the contents of the journal to give Arnold a comforting and aspirational story about his parents
He didn't even know the journal existed before the episode they found it, he did already do that though
>Craig never wanted tjm to be the last arnold thing, even back in the 2000's, he's said he's always had more to tell with it
Everything we know about the Patakis spinoff was just bleak and a little too edgy, so perhaps it's for the best this is it.
to be fair, the show itself went into that territory with helga's episodes
Yes, and a darker tone would be appropriate, but "Gerald gets Phoebe teen pregnant and she aborts it" is just a little too much. It's getting into Duke's Lemon Pudding pasta readings territory.
There's no way Craig would've done that, it would've just been more overt with miriam drinking problem
>Everything we know about the Patakis spinoff was just bleak and a little too edgy, so perhaps it's for the best this is it.
agreed
frick that would have made the movie 100x better if they were actually dead
it would've
Originally Jungle Movie and Rugrats Go Wild were suppose to be TV based specials but it tested well with screen testers that they shifted them to theatrical.
When they did disappointedly, Nick cancelled Jungle Movie, and Craig left to work for CN to pitch his pilot, and originally Nick wanted Craig to work exclusively for them which he turned down.
Craig cave in to the shippinggays. The series is dead and ruined forever since it bombed. Nick wont give it a chance anymore.
The movie made a profit dickhead, it wasn't perfect considering Nick cut the production time short but it was acceptable. Frick outta here trollgay.
>The movie made a profit dickhead
Lol no. Nobody cared but shippinggays. It was just that bad.
Do you have any source for this accusations?
>The series is dead
for the best
the jungle movie was fine. we got closure.
if it got a continuation we'd get something stupid like one of them becomes a streamer or like Harold becomes trans.
For OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZlUY_h-UuA
And for Me to set the mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft5Ck9l_Llk
>And for Me to set the mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft5Ck9l_Llk [Embed]
Damn this is pretty cool, now I want to search for other character songs like this.
I've been meaning to catch this show
What the heck was his problem?
>What the heck was his problem?
he was a wagie
Pls don't bully wagies
You ever have to deal with kids?
Try doing that everyday and they still demand more from you
Unironically daddy issues and low self-esteem.
i swear they ripped him off from dexters lab
there was an episode were he pays with pennys then the icecream guy spends all night counting them and accidentally smashes the jar then ends up living with wolves under a bridge
Not really, "Evil Ice Cream Man" was a popular trope back then in kids shows. Alot of shows had them
>a wagie
>a socially awkward wagie forced to work for kids
>literally can't be fired because it's his dad's business
>Untouchable, gives zero fricks, hates his job, but can't break being perpetually stuck enough to get into something he likes.
>Maybe also some mental health shit he and his dad can't afford to deal with so this is the only option they see.
Work in retail for a while. Now imagine that 90% of your customer base was kids. They're lucky he didnt chop them up and stick em in the freezer tbh
Please delete this.
I enjoy your suffering anon
this shit hit very close to home.
this except elementary school, I fell off way before high school and was just another moron
Is he Indian or Latino either way he looks like mass shooter.
I don't know but he gives me filipino vibes
Favorite tenant?
Hyunh or Ernie
What did they mean by this?
COME BACK WAYNE!!
TODAY I WILL REMIND THEM!
He just wanted to ask where the bus stop was, man...
Was that guy autistic?
unironically yes, he displayed all the traits of a legitimate autistic person
Justice for stealing Arnold's ball
that was this
guy's little brother
Interesting
you don't have idea how much i hate this little shit
him gigglin away from Arnold will never not be funny to me
Was he "special"?
Arnold being flanderized into Football Jesus later on clashes hard with how realistically corruptible he was.
The first seasons were boring. Shifting the focus to all the other kids at school was the best thing the show ever did.
No, they should have learned how to keep Arnold more interesting because he's the MAIN CHARACTER.
I enjoyed all the perspectives on the show but there was nothing boring about Arnold episodes.
They simply forgot that he worked because he was a regular kid with an eccentric family who always wound up in unlucky or unusual situations. He could try to have the Perfect Saturday and suffer a string of setbacks, or he could get lost in the sewers with Gerald and meet the goddamned Sewer King chasing after a pocketwatch. He was very versatile, which a good MC needs. There was nothing wrong with him until they reduced him to a paragon.
seen the other ones, but I've never seen this one b4, is this even actually HA?
>That one episode where Arnold was getting some little chocolate dicky.
His relationship with Helga won't last. He'll go back to this spoiled brat with Gerald's blessing
She was like half his age!
At that age that's barely a blip and in that day it would have been seen as cute
Does this looks like the face of mercy
>Name: Arnold
>Born: Yes
uh...based?
Catalyst protagonists are just the best.
Anyone else think the ep where the model didn't want to date ernie was wrong? Shouldn't she be allowed to date a guy she finds attractive, she even went on one date with him instead of rejecting him.
I mean they got together in the end anyway
She liked ernie, but she was worried about what other people would think
Well, she's married to a cripple in Family Guy.
>hi ruth
Hi Ruth, hi Ruth, hi Ruth, hi Ruth, hi Ruth, hi Ruth, hi Ruth, hi Ruth, hi Ruth...
"You don't know anything about the girl you're crushing on from afar and she's probably a completely uninteresting person outside of her looks and the fictional possibilities you're inventing in your daydreams" is such a good lesson to teach. Can't think of much else that did that.
Impressive they went with realistic approach with this love interest.
>wearing a red dress with fish nets in the 6th grade
Do American girls really?
I like the spooky episodes.
Helga fricks on the first date
hot
Like crazy hot passionate sex?
The show is episodic because of Nickelodeon airing its episodes in random rerun order, continuity was basically non existent for any cartoon at that time. Only anime did and Toonami was extremely dedicated to airing episodes in order, but other than Toonami networks actually just grabbed shit out of a hat and let it rock that day.
favorite moment in the series
>Merry Christmas Arnold
made me feel feelings I didn't know I had
Did you go all out the next Christmas?
This is Helga's crowning moment. She didn't even WANT Arnold to know she did this. A truly selfless deed. Only a truly good person would sacrifice so much with zero gain or recognition.
Totally true. That and Thanksgiving ep were the best episodes with Helga and Arnold. I absolutely love how they initially catch atmoshere of "small men" in an uncaring and ignorant world and then show how Helga and Arnold trying to fight this unstoppable force in pursuit of their own happines amd miraculously they win toghether. That bittersweet ending in that episedoses always catches me.
Alsi really love both Fair episodes, that scene in the emd with Helga alone wathcing everyone, especially Arnold go away so fits her. Her desperate sruggle against everyone, just trying to catch some peace for her soul, and that emding. Mey, that's so beatiful in it's reality, i can't even catch the words
Post more winter scenes anon, I fricking love HA!
s winters.
>"What did I tell ya, Short Man?"
This is the scene I remember best from the movie.
good scene, enjoyable movie overall
I watched the movie twice as a kid having never seen the series, in retrospect, there was a lot of character payoff that went right over my head.
>entire episode revolving around her farting
didn't come off as a fetish thing, probably cause it wasn't
No sane functional person thinks it was
The episode where Mr. Hyuhn became a country music star got me into country music as a kid
I still like it
I'm currently rewatching the show after like 15 years and I don't remember Phoebe being so cute.
I had a crush on her as a kid.
Phoebe's starting to look kinda thicc there.
Nothing wrong with that.
I like it.
Imagine if she had that butt in the series finale.
Helga also got breasts
Best HA girl
Finally, some good fricking taste.
built for football head wiener
>Arnold's dick head is also football shaped
>Helga's holes are permanently stretched and deformed into a football shape to accommodate
>She says "Move it, football head!" when she wants him to start thrusting harder
Helga episodes are so much better than Arnold episodes bros, she's just too relatable.
Her family always deserved its own spin off if they kept Olga living with them
Incelga is only relatable to people like you
people like me are the majority of this board
sad
great atmosphere
Very
The ending song is a time machine of feels
New Phoebe >>>>> Old Phoebe
both frickable
hot
I've always thought the idea of Arnold's parents being Christ-like Indiana Jones superheroes involved with a tribe of supernatural natives was a little much for the show. Pre-TJM, I kind of preferred to think that Phil largely made up the contents of the journal to give Arnold a comforting and aspirational story about his parents, who were probably just dead or at least missing in reality, and that he'd work up the nerve to tell him the truth when he was older and probably figured out what was going on anyway. I never even liked the idea of TJM all that much, because the show was pretty distinctly just a story about inner city life with a touch of magical realism spicing it up, and a full-fledged Indiana Jones movie was too much if a departure from that (although the more consistent Arnold movie we did get back when the show was airing didn't seem to do well, so what do I know?). I think I liked TJM when we finally got it--the long wait made the complete closure it gave Arnold and Helga on everything feel earned--but the weakest parts were indeed the jungle parts. The supernatural elements of Arnold were always more subtle than that cartoonish sleeping sickness that inexplicably didn't kill anybody. Helga's locket turning out to be the key to everything was a clever touch, though.
The Jungle Movie kinda messed up everything, It felt like a weird fanfic interpretation of what the movie would be. I was really hoping for something way more grounded, not Arnold is jesus.
I'm getting drunk and sad, so it's time for the periodic reminder:
>No girl will (ever) love you as much as Helga loved Arnold
Good, Helga is a psychopath.
she has a dismissive, ambitious father, an alcoholic mother, and a neurotic, attention-hogging, hyper-competent older sister.
the fact that she's unusually bright, but also only a little obsessive/dramatic and a little cruel despite these setbacks is nothing short of a miracle.
Helga is best girl, and I'm tired of pretending she's not
always was
So? There are plenty girls I knew in college who went through life worse than her and they are not psychotic like her.
bruh...
What? Say something instead of being passive aggressive.
Uh....make me?
I accept your concession.
you can accept my dick in your butthole
got em
kinda gay anon
>I don't enjoy buttfricking anonymous internet losers into submission, but when done righteously, it's just a chore, like any other
It's all about asserting dominance
She's the straight Catra
holy based
>the duality of Cinemaphile
cringe simp
Olga has to be that way to keep her father's love.
He canon doesn't even remember Helga's name.
it hurts
Are you an alcoholic anon?
not at all. just infrequent singular episodes of binge drinking when I get the sads
Well, I think it's the unconditional love and loyalty and passion you lust after, not the fatal attraction side of things. That's what you want
Did Herald frick Arnold's french penpal?
I think you mean Gerald, and yes, he did.
Whenever I look at a kitchen roll tube, I'm reminded of Helga's body.
She's 9. Nine. Not even double digits, Can you please stop being a pedophile for ten seconds?
What I mean is that people tend to think she's hot despite her lack of curves. I was satirising them.
>I was only pretending to be moronic,
That's if she was an actual person. She's a cartoon who never ages in real time.
Whatever you say bucko.
Well actually, clod, Helga was created in 1988, which would make her 42 now.
Based year, and no I'm not a white supremist.
>Brings up WS without any provocation.
Yeah right, pal.
Sorry, I'm not a LARPing Nazi/Viking-wannabe homosexual.
sure you're not
So, erm, just a thought…
/nightshift/
Is it even possible for another slice of life show to reach HA's level. You can't write a slice of life about people who with no life, so it couldn't really be set in the present unless you just pretend people ignore their smartphones like TLH does.
It's more than possible to make another comfy SoL show like Hey Arnold. The problem is the market. That's not what "the people" want. Kids want stupid, quick humor, lore, etc. The market now is escapism. I want to get away from my life, not be reminded of it.
escapism has been overdone to the point where there are escapist shows about how escapism is bad
Too many people are addicted to escapism these days, we need more grounded fiction.
I think we might get there eventually. In the sense that people want to relate to the stories they see. It might be a gradual shift, but I think we can get there. We just need the right people to come along and make such a show.
The problem is, all the writers in LA, are nerds with sheltered lives, not many normal people writing shows these days.
I'm sure some are trying. It's a matter of execs taking a chance on someone new instead of someone with a bit more industry experience.
Tonight's episode: Save the Tree/New Teacher
Paramount plus has the episodes out if order, New Teacher introduces Mr. Simmons but he's already been in 3 episodes prior.
Helga Pataki = Best animated female character of all time.
Yeah she's usually ugly but I'm not talking about looks here.
You're right there bucko.
When she put herself together, she's not ugly.
In the Valentines ep after she pukes, she's the prettiest girl in the series (or Lila). But she usually looks ass.
That's the point. She's a rough looking tomboy girl who can be pretty when she tries, but she usually doesn't.
If she allows herself to be, she can be very cute.
Such is the way of tomboys/bullygirls
What is this and is there more?
I just want to see her get teen pregnant.
The episode with the haunted train and the episode with the haunted basement bathroom are among the best.
Nice wallpaper. Bunny rabbit!
>You see this lint? This YOUR lint!
I yell that every time I do laundry, no one knows why.
I not his motha
>I messed with the unknown once
>What happened?
>Nothing! But it coulda been awful.
>What if we paint the house in Vanishing cream, then it will be invisible!
>That is the STUPIDEST idea I ever heard. What if it rains? Y'ever think about that Kokoshka? It'll wash the vanishing cream right off!
>The creative use of camera angles throughout this scene
You know that phrase "you don't know what you have until it's gone"?
God I miss cartoons doing that.
With convenience comes degradation of skills.
Helga's voice actor was really fricking talented, man... Better than many adult VAs.
Franchesa was great the whole run
When she came back for Jungle Movie, it was like she never left. Great actress. I wonder why she doesn't do other voice work.
>When she came back for Jungle Movie, it was like she never left. Great actress. I wonder why she doesn't do other voice work.
it's interesting she basically stopped acting or voice acting completely in 2003 when she was 18, and only came back in 2017 specifically to reprise Helga for TJM and then again this year to provide lines for Helga for All-Star Brawl, so presumably she just lost interest in acting once she reached adulthood and only came back for Helga due to her connection to the role
I think there was also some nick all star tennis game for ios that she came back for that was released not too long ago, but including the stuff you said that's about it, She does seem to like and have fun being Helga when she does reprise her though, I'm sure it's nice to break up whatever professor stuff she usually does
Can't think of many kids cartoons that actually taught kids about high culture.
God this brings me back, I miss shit like this
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Threads still up? Neato
Of course it is, what did you expect? DOI!
Hey, is there a decent torrent hanging about?
I've been meaning to watch this show properly since I was a kid who didn't get cable but loved every episode I saw.
However, I can see this as being one of those shows that companies will ignore instead of put them on bluray, hence my concern about a decent torrent.
Also, holy shit the backgrounds.
Lovely.
Helga is hot as soon as the unibrow is hidden.
Helga being more openly feminine after TJM is definitely the direction I'd want to see her go if the show were to come back
how so
It makes sense. Bartlett is amazing with fans, so he won't do it. Same reason he had Arnold's parents alive. BULLSHIT! But he does it all for the fans...
So, often he will make a choice that pleases fans rather than one that makes sense...
In a real relationship with Arnold, her insecurities would gradually drop off, and he would support her and allow her to understand that the way she is treated by her family is abusive and wrong... She represses her real self for fear of being humiliated... I'm kind of surprised the teacher didn't pick up that something was wrong at home, given her poetry against her classroom behavior.
Helga is a hardcore romantic. In Arnold's nightmare with fake Lila and Helga, the Helga in that dream is more accurate to how she really is.
>the Helga in that dream is more accurate to how she really is.
That IS her, the real her behind the mask she puts on, the her only arnold see's and the one he falls for. I wouldn't say it's more feminine necessarily just far less brash
I think part and part, because she does genuinely enjoy watching wrestling etc. She does enjoy at least some things which are not stereotypically girly.
As compared to Lila, she's dramatically more romantic, but a bit less feminine. But only because Lila is literally like, a caricature of the "perfect girl". Which IIRC was the title of the episode she premiered in.
Romantic tomboy is probably the best description of her
>Helga in that dream is more accurate to how she really is
No. Just no. You making the same mistake as Arnold in ep where Helga acted like Lila. Helga is romantic as much as she is cynical and harsh. That's just her different sides, you can't throw away one of them and claim that another is "her true self".
Her ccynicsm is her armor.
How many examples of a relatioship did she have?
Her cynism is result of her life experience. She had seen life in not all brights and sunshine and that way can't fall back in childish pretending that all is good. Sure there is problems with selfcontrol, but she is nine year old.
Also btw if you'll watch all her cynical comments, than you'll understand that at least 70% of them were true and only Arnolds dumb luck made them get away.
Also i really dislike how authors make Arnold win in nearly every contest or competition he partitioned. Like how in the hell he won in that eating contest?
phils training?
Training in obraining parallel dimension inside his stomach?
True. Really wish there would be more ep where he would be at least second or even there would compete another his classmate.
>How about a nice hhherring sandwich?
Arnold was a Gary Stu, every episode they make him really good at something for the sake of plot, and half the time there wasn't even a message from it.
Kys helgacel
Or whach u do, bucko? Make up some motivational goody doody speech?
Would have been a much more interesting episode if they followed up on Arnold not wanting to partake in the eating contest despite it being sort of a family tradition
Also good take. Though i think Arnold despite some of his rationalism has a weak spot for "family traditions". Like compensating his unusual family and feeling connection to grandparents.
Tonight's episode: Arnold's Halloween.
>it's a character gets new job that nobody mentions ever again episode
Green's place on the city council is briefly referenced in the first movie
If his Political career isn't filled with butcher puns like "No matter how you slice it" and "getting to meat of the issue" I'll be upset.
finna live off the land with country Helga
He's dumber than a bag of hammers.
Really love your works man.
Also could you please draw some melancholic Helga, something with bitter-sweet atmosphere?
And I'll see what happens
Fantastic <3
Do you have a page I can follow? You are a fantastic artist.
Was this a mistake or something
I call BULLSHIT and SHENANIGANS
Helga is ooga booga ugly. How did she get away with it, she's the ugliest girl in the whole show.
Watch it bucko.
I bet Rhonda hands typed this post.
>What did you think tsp stood for?
>Uhhh...ten square pounds?
fricking sid
Great thread, this was one of favorite shows growing up along with rugrats. Hey Arnold had a weird vibe to it, it was a kids show that also had some dramatic and sad moments to it. I only saw the first movie but I read the plot summary for the last one on wikipedia. I think Arnold’s parents being alive after all this time goes against the theme of the show, which I always interpreted as gently showing kids that life is never what you expect. His parents being dead has always been implied (at least to me) and I would have liked the crowing achievement/lesson of the show to be Arnold accepting that they’re dead and moving on.
The final revelation of Hey Arnold is that Arnold's mother died in childbirth from his football head destroying her guts on the way out, and his father killed himself out of grief.
as we've spoken b4 earlier, they were supposed to be dead originally
Speaking of fan creations and continuation of this show
What ficks do u like? I personally absolutely love "Salted Nut Rolls" by Commander. That fic and other his ficks about HA! so fricking fits in post-HA! place with more serious and adult themes so I cannot help but dream about what would be if it would be ecranized.
And what ficks can you recommend?
>I want round the clock Hey Arnold discussion... and lots of Helga fanart!
Can you upload the other picture thag was created in the thread this one came from?
I don't know if this one was ever colored, and I don't see any colored versions in the Cinemaphilellection booru.
Feels good that I requested this
Oh boy
Was Jamie O gay after he got used like a dirty sock by that bawd in the early seasons? Why wasn't he interested in Chloey?
>Was Jamie O gay after he got used like a dirty sock by that bawd in the early seasons? Why wasn't he interested in Chloey?
he's like 16 or 17 and she's like 12 at the oldest
Wasn't she like 12 or 13 and Jamie O was 16 or 17? You look kind of weird being that age, messing around with middle schoolers.
Shit, somehow, I was in the same situation, but I turned her down because I didn't want to look like a creep. Then a few years later as a Sr, I had this Freshman girl who was crushing on me but I didn't go after her, but then one of my friends who was the same age ended up dating her. That one I regret not going after lol.
how old are you. nobody gave a shit about tiny age differences when the show was made, nor til at earliest 8 years after it ended.
I'm 33. This was back in '05-07. IDK, it just seemed weird to me, and I'm sure I would have gotten some shit, but not as bad as if this happened today, I'll give you that.
Episode that always stuck with me was Dino Checks Out. The first half is played straight in thinking Dino committed suicide and showing how everyone reacted to it, a mix of sadness and cynicism. Know very few if any cartoons that bring up the topic. Second half of the episode is still fun, though.
>football head had some cute daughters that look just like helga and are also in love with him
I think we all knew this was coming.
>Lila gets so mindbroken she turns into a fricking terrorist
Based
oneitis
Oh hey, a HA thread.
Mind if I post abit of rare art I did?
>old people coomer art
Is nothing safe from you criminals?
W-whatcha mean? There's nothing sexual here, she's just resting on his face. Like a cat.
>Is nothing safe from you criminals?
Yes, ponies and toddlers.
>ponies
Only because Cinemaphile is still paranoid about horse show that shall not be named overtaking the board (which it will)
>toddlers
Say hi to the Loud House threads for me
>Say hi to the Loud House threads for me
Don't associate me with that rubble.
hot
>#ICan'tLarp
Not while he's trying to take a afternoon nap.
really good, you got any more anon?
Of her? Not that I can post here...
I really should not save this...yet
Anyone else feel weird learning that the show is not actually set in NYC?
I known for so long that it wasn't that I don't think it's weird at all
It felt more generic city than NYC really hard to pinpoint where exactly for the longest
No because I never thought American city automatically had to mean New York
Act wienery but my mate lives in Brooklyn and thought HA! was set there.
It legit looks like Brooklyn
There's an episode where Helga and Bob see a broadway musical and another episode where Arnold and the gang see an opera. There's definitely elements of NYC there.
>New York is the only city that has classical theater
New York is actually seen in one episode (where Arnold and Helga got married) but in a dream sequence. Either Hillwood is more blatantly like NYC in Helgas dream, or her and Arnold moved from Hillwood to NYC after they went to Venice.
It's Brooklyn. Look at the houses and streets bro. Hillwood is Brooklyn.
Craig confirmed in a instagram post that the latter is true
Which post? I’m curious to see.
Tried looking for it but wasn't able to find it, It was on his personal insta and I remember the post having a scan of the background shown here
I don't think the cel was on it
But from what you remember, the text in the post basically confirmed "This scene was set in the real NYC and not Hillwood"?
Yeah, there was also some mention of the twin towers in the backgound in the post in addition to that
Why did Curly do it?
Phoebe should canonically be the best looking girl in the show since she's a japanese white mix
I'm ever so certain Lila became a bawd in high school to help her family out of poverty. Her blowjobs must be oh so wonderful.
unf, Lila succ
>Getting head from the local redhead girl to help pay for her dad's medical bills> Literally a whole line of dudes waiting to get sucked with a donation box near by
>Her selling her virginity at an auction so that she can go to college
> Her having to let her boss do anal so that she can get that promotion
And all at the age of 14. She truly is gifted/
what the frick is wrong with you?
Nothing wrong with what I said
That girl is a gift from God and probably has the mouth of an angel
And can swallow like one as well
nice
I always love these horrific greentexts. A short, often chilling, story unsettling me from complacency. It doesn't make me feel good but at least I feel something.
How’s what I wrote horrific other than the spelling errors?
>used to fall asleep every other day to the near constant late night reruns of hey arnold and other comfy old nicktoons on that late night teennick programming block TV through the 2010s
>of course it eventually gets old but after falling into another cycle for sleeping decide i want to do that again for old times sake a few weeks ago
>entire late night schedule for weeks on end is just fricking icarly
what the hell i know a network cant live off of nostalgic cartoons forever but why icarly and only icarly
>paying for cable in 2022
You do know Hey Arnold is on Paramount Plus and Pirate Bay, right?
Yeah, I was just thinking about that like a day ago too, I miss seeing a variety of old nicktoons but It's just been fricking Icarly, I assume it's to promote the new paramount plus show that noone watches , I hope it goes back soon
There was a time I thought Nickelodeon was the best cartoon channel.
What happend (beside sponge money)!?
They realized the power of reruns
And as Greenblat said, they are the garage sale of cartoon networks
>they are the garage sale of cartoon networks
what did greenblat mean by this?
It's because he talked about on his blog how he was talking to a nickelodeon executive who was gloating about how much money she's going to make on that cgi Alvan and the chipmunk cartoon even though she doesn't even care about cartoons
He also said how they will just buy the rights to whatever cartoon pitch but won't use them unless they need it
Avatar TLA was their last good show, most of what came after was crap
They started doing live action Dan Schneider stuff around 2006, and earlier if you want to include Dake and Josh and Zoey 101. Similar to how Cartoon Network did that weird CN Real shit back in the day with all those stupid live action shows nobody remembers.
They always made live action stuff, 2006 was when it started to get more viewers than their animated shows.
I reckon there ain't enough talk about lemon puddin' in this here thread.
Stinky was a fricking chad. The way he gets over Helga and gives her the could shoulder. The time he turned down 1 million dollars to keep his dignity. Puts away Mr. Nutty bars like they're nothing.
Absolute king.
she already has pigtails
Helga is a beauty when she allows herself to be.
Do you main her?
I used to but Shredder's too braindead not to play
I will pray for you, my flaxen-haired Prometheus.