We can name hundreds of great comic artists, but what about writers? I think the number of writers that go above and beyond are incredibly few.
Who are the greats of comic book writing?
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Alan Moore is easily one of the best.
It’s easy to see someone’s illustration style. It’s had to see someone’s writing style. Frank Miller is remembered because he drew a lot of his comics and a lot of his comics are self contained stories. Alan Moore didn’t draw his comics, but they are also generally self contained stories. Anyone who’s like “I wrote Superman 874-895” isn’t going to be as memorable. Even Mike Mignola, who’s writing isn’t really anything special, is mostly remembered for his great art.
>Anyone who’s like “I wrote Superman 874-895” isn’t going to be as memorable
This honestly just tells me you’re a homosexual ass casual who needs to read more fricking comics and go back to Twitter in the meantime
I’m just saying, are you going to think of Alan Moore as the guy who wrote watchmen, or the guy that wrote Superman.
Why is Jim Lee there he’s one of the worst examples of a writer/artist ever.
He's a great artist
I'm more annoyed by the goat-licker being in the middle
NGL I think Cinemaphile recognizes writers more than artists, if only because they're targets of ire, you see a lot of Cinemaphile favorite artist lists it's always like 4-5 contemporary artists(Dan Mora, Jorge Jiminez, that type) and then a bunch of old school guys like Kirby, Wally Wood, Frazetta, etc. You could just say it's because they were the best, but lets face it, very few people here remember or acknowledge monthly comic artists, for example.
Same thing when it's most hated artists it's always Land, Liefeld, Ramos, etc.
I don’t think this is true at all. Frankly I’m kinda sick of tourists like you painting with a broad brush based purely on projection or baseless assumptions
I'm saying this as someone who's more into the art side of comics than writers. There's a bunch of monthly guys I like that Cinemaphile never really acknowledges.
cappucio would probably be my go to monthly guy - he's been great on moony
Comics rn is actually writer centric. We no longer have superstar contemporary comic artists because it doesnt benefit the publishers. A writer can churn out 10 mediocre scripts a month. an artist can only do one quality product at a time. Shame, really.
Would love more projects where the artist was in charge of the story. Will it be as cleanly written? Probably not, but as far as being unique and interesting, it most likely would be.
The last time Marvel promoted artists those guys got big heads and kept asking for more and more until Marvel finally had to say "no" which resulted in them teaming up and starting their own rival comic book company. Writers can't do that.
What percentage of comics are written by a team of writers/artists vs a single person doing it themselves assuming we ignore webcomics?
I like the way George Herriman wrote.
Sticking to English language comics here:
(20th Century) Frank Miller
Mike Baron
Chuck Dixon
Roy Thomas
Keith Giffen
Roger Stern
Marv Wolfman
Michael Fleisher
Carl Barks
John Stanley
Frank Doyle
Otto Binder
Jack Cole
Will Eisner
Howard Chaykin (until sometime in the 90s)
Steve Gerber
Stan Lee (shut up)
Chris Claremont (through 1991)
Archie Goodwin
John Ostrander
Peter David
Kurt Busiek
John Wagner
Alan Grant
Pat Mills
All of these writers had extended periods where they were largely reliable in creating or co-creating well above average (or, in the case of Michael Fleisher, at least interesting) comics. I was tempted to put Alan Moore on, but he's absent for the same reason as Doug Moench: Both of them were inconsistent, even in their primes. But if you want to throw them on, then fine. Maybe add Steven Grant while you're at it. And I'm sure I'm forgetting someone, but that should cover most of the top tier names.
I forgot Mike W. Barr and Max Allan Collins.
And while we're at it, you could make a case for Al Feldstein, Harvey Kurtzman, Jeff Smith, or Joe Kubert. And maybe Garth Ennis if you want to overlook the fact that most of his work has always been unreadable and only count his better stuff.
And now that I think of it, J.M. DeMatteis probably belongs on there.
Ennis writes some of my favorite dialogue in comics.
When he's on his A-game he's hard to beat.
Unfortunately that's always been the minority of his work.
>I was tempted to put Alan Moore on, but he's absent for the same reason as Doug Moench: Both of them were inconsistent, even in their primes.
I don't know, I wouldn't put any of the ones I've read from that list on Alan Moore's level. My favorites from there are Miller, Baron, Cole, Eisner, and Chaykin. I sometimes like Dixon, Stern, Goodwin, Ostrander, Busiek, Grant, and Mills.
Moore's done some good stuff, but way too much crap. Even in his "best" years (the 80s) he wrote garbage like V For Vendetta or Watchmen or Miracleman (the latter of which starts well, but turns to shit in the middle and never recovers) and outright mediocrity like The Killing Joke.
Oh. You were just being a tool. Very devious.
You just have shit taste.
No, that honor is yours.
Come on man, just because something is popular, doesn’t make it shit.
Alan Moore's best years were the 2000s, you silly billy.
After like 2003 he really never made another good comic.
Providence.
>Stan Lee
Moore, Brubaker, Ennis, Busiek
Englehart and Conway are my favorites who pretty much just did big two stuff
Eddie Campbell
The good ones stand out because most writers with actual talent get paid. Meaning, they don't work in comic books.
The writing quality outside of comics is so bad at this point that you can't really make that argument anymore.
You're on Cinemaphile.
What's your point?
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This thread has finally made it click for me why Cinemaphile is such a uniquely terrible board. The userbase of Cinemaphile is desperate to gossip about real people, likely because they themselves are boring losers with no lives, and the nature of comic books being so closely tied to the creative teams more easily facilitate this than other mediums. That's why you're all a bunch of obnoxious c**ts. Because comics and cartoons more more prominently talk up writers and artists. Nobody gives a frick about TV or movie writers, and anime writers are virtually anonymous. But the comics and cartoons industries are all about slapping a big fat sign one the cover telling you who's responsible for this story. And that feeds your pathetic lolcow addicted brains the endorphins they crave. The solution of course, is to ban any and all discussion regarding real people from the entire site, but the administration is too cowardly to do that.
Alex de Campi and Ramon Villalobos murdered Ed Piskor.
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Herejes.
Kirby
Ennis
Kanigher was pretty good
Arnold Drake
Any of the EC guys
Herriman
Segar
Foster