>Comrade Anon enters the reactor and sees the fuel rods jumping up and down
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a..at least it's not capitalism
Were the communists in high positions really like this? Was it that hard to see the forest for trees even when your life (and livelihood) and everyone's else's life was on the line? I get USRR collapsed, but still really horrifying knowing that is man's nature even when money isn't a thing, but power and authority still on the line.
the disphit who caused this had another nuclear oopsie ivolving a subs nuclear reactor before this. that and the shit vatnik design merely complimented each other. The same plant project is still in use today btw and chernobyl was not the biggest reactor block wise. That honor goes to a plant near Petersburg (eight blocks) which nearly had its own meltdown in the early 00s
Vatniks just dont give a frick when it comes to radiation. Or chemicals (anthrax island), or biologicals. Siberian lakes so contaminated you cant spend there more then a few minutes before lethal dose are a testament to that. Or, you know, digging trenches in the fricking red forest. This plague needs a final solution
>Vatniks just dont give a frick when it comes to radiation.
Its called not being a little b***h.
Stop being scared of your own shadow homosexual
>Stop being scared of your own shadow homosexual
Does that mean that Russia is a shadow of the Western World? In a Jungian sense?
Always has been, notice how all Russian phases mimic the west
>First mimicking Byzantine empire
>Then trying to larp as west (Peter the "great" westernization)
>Then get high on some western philosopher fumes and organize whole state inspired by him (USSR)
Will Russia ever become independent in meta historical sense? Will it ever become Russia?
No
Russian anons, why? Why do you keep being the shadow of the West?
>pick up a shiny thing on the ground
>put it in his back pocket for 45 minutes before he felt the burn
>it melts your fricking ass
We lost a shiny radioactive thing on the road here in Australia recently, they say they found it but it's entirely possible they failed and lied to avoid panic
Some abbos are worshipping it between petrol huffing sessions.
>You don't sniff petrol from a can
I am so fricking jealous Japanese live like that, I am gonna call them nazis and fascists. Russia needs to denazify Japan.
We've seen what the Russian army does in Ukraine
Russian navy in it's current state vs Japan would make Tsushima look like a fair and honorable event
was there a punchline here
I would love to see the self defense force marching on Moscow
>Dyatlov gets scapegoated in the trials
>sent to gulag
>released due to failing health
>starts campaign to clear the name of himself and his comrade operators
>says the reactors never should have been built
>Nuclear Safety Board of Inquiry ends up agreeing with him
>So does the International Atomic Energy Agency
>Bitterly fights for the truth to come out until his death
MEANWHILE
>Legasov is a senior member of the Kurchatov Institute and presumed next director
>the Kurchatov Institute are responsible for the faulty reactor design
>defends the institute and the soviet narrative
>places blame on the reactor operators for not knowing what they couldn't know
>gleefully deceives the entire world
>parrots the party line the entire time
>gets butthurt after being snubbed for Hero of Socialist Labor award (Gorbachev didn't think it appropriate a prominent member of the institute responsible for the disaster be awarded)
>gets even more butthurt when he isn't promoted to director of the Kurchatov Institute
>kills himself like a b***h
>decades later Dyatlov is shown by Hollywood as a villain and legasov as a hero
>brainlets believe it because it's on tv
It's not fair /b/ros
Your English is very good, Anatoly Stepanovich.
Yes now put your moose into my squirrel
This is the nature of life and truth in general. Happens on all levels, all the time. Justice turns coat when genuinely needed it would seem. It's almost as if there is some evil force that contorts causality and reality itself- oh wait.
I believe you, but can any Ruski ou Ukrainian confirm this?
>Were the communists in high positions really like this
Absolutely.
The paranoia and self-deception at the higher levels of the Soviet bureaucratic apparatus are endemic to totalitarian systems; however, because of the sheer scale of the Soviet Union and the quasi-European nature of their culture, we observe something alien yet familiar.
Stalin traumatized the ruling stratum, they never quite recovered.
It can happen anywhere. Ideologically rigid bureaucracies with perverse incentives create conditions like this, and that's really all that the Soviet Union was.
m8, the same people literally invaded a neighbor country without even checking if their weapon stashes still exist less than a year ago.
That's not possible.
How do you get energy from a bunch of metal rods going up and down?
Ancient Soviet secret
That's the magic of nuclear power.
it's a few seconds before the big lid blows up, you can try to get energy from this
The big lid didn’t blow up however.
Legitimate answer is steam. Nuclear power is just steam x100
The rods are surrounded by eater which is super heated and instantly turns to steam and the energy from that steam is turned into electricity
The rods going up and down isn't what generates the electricity. They aren't actually supposed to bounce like they do in this scene either, they were doing that because the reactor was about to explode.
Nuclear power plants use nuclear reactions in the fuel rods (regulated by the control rods so that the reaction stays stable and doesn't get out of control or choke itself out) to generate heat. The heat is taken up by water and the water is turned to steam to drive a steam turbine.
Does the water get radioactive?
Nah
The water that comes in close contact with the fuel will become radioactive, yes. For this reason a lot of modern power plants use two separate water loops. One takes heat from the core - that's the radioactive loop - and the other takes heat from the first loop. That way only the water in the first loop will become radioactive, and the rest of the water will stay just as normal water.
Aren't there less dangerous ways to create massive amounts of steam?
One million tea kettles.
We could send a boat to the sun to collect some of it and use that instead.
A really big magnifying glass on a vat of water
>A really big magnifying glass on a vat of water
works better with a parabolic mirror over a closed system heat exchanger which is exactly what they use
water takes a frickton of energy to convert to steam, a nuclear reaction requires a relatively small amount of fuel and lasts for decades, any other method would likely require just as much if not more energy to run than it generated
You know that one movie where couple of guys and a girl borrowed a boat and they found some sick people in the desert and then they crashed the boat and then a helicopter gunship was shooting at them while they escaped in automobile from 1920's and then they found long lost ironclad from 1800's and shot the helicopter with it's cannons also there was like a big trash incinerator facility where a bunch of mirrors concentrate into one point to superheat the trash. I wonder if that concept could be used to make steam and drive a turbine.
That was Sahara right?
there are tons of such facilities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_solar_thermal_power_stations
the most famous one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouarzazate_Solar_Power_Station
>Aren't there less dangerous ways to create massive amounts of steam?
Yes, but for the moment considerably more expensive eg geothermal or solar.
This is absolutely going to cause someone to itch, but as long as there’s oil to be drained, the solutions will be hurting for funding. There are neat advancements in wind farms, wiggly wind balloons instead of turbines with fan blades, and that one that uses ocean waves. Neat stuff.
As far as nuclear, it’s far safer than it’s ever been, and, if anything, the tech is moving from huge power plants like that one to smaller molten salt and thorium reactors that a small handful of techs can maintain.
Further still, the uranium the reactor uses today are tiny pellets the size of tic tacs in this tubes by the hundreds or thousands. Safeguards following such neat catastrophes have led to some, really obvious safety advances to eg electromagnetically controlled fuel rods that, if the power were to cut out, the electromagnetic link would break, dropping the fuel rod from the moderator causing the nuclear reaction to stop.
The biggest problems nowadays is largely the cost benefit ratio of the process. It’s extremely expensive.
As far as accidents like Fukushima or Chernobyl, they’re much less likely to happen than say environmental pollution of hydrazine into the local water supply (Dominon Millstone plant NE US). In other words, things other than a runaway nuclear reaction with potential global consequences.
Still human error though. As long as people are behind it and doing so solely for profit, there’s incentive to lie and the chance for human error.
Here’s a good breakdown of the process.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0kahih8RT1k&t=828s
Uranium is simply the best we have at the moment, but stay tuned for fusion in the future, if we ever manage to hold a reaction for more than a nanosecond..
so what youre telling me is that my car ran run on fat? we should make a fuel from that!
Biodiesel, you silly goose.
Yes, and converting a diesel engine to run on vegetable oil isn't even all that hard. Only problem is I've heard it makes the car smell weird.
Gasoline already smells weird, you're just used to it
>Only problem is I've heard it makes the car smell weird.
we used to recognize homemade biodiesel conversions by distinct smell of french fries. I wonder what happened to that trend.
net energy gain fusion is hydrogen into helium, uranium isn't a factor. fusion bombs have a fission trigger, so that might bet what's confusing you there.
I'm saying right now fission with uranium/plutonium is the best we have, but maybe in the future we'll have working H to HE fusion
No. The pinnacle of human achievement so far boils down (kek) to make water hot, make rock go fast, make tube go up.
We literally split apart one of the fundamental cores of reality. It's best use is boiling water.
Also nuke Humanity and terrorise the World.
>terrorize
We have had nearly a century of peace between major countries since the first atomic bomb. Is it peace held together by "we will wipe out humanity if we don't keep the peace" ? Sure.
Better than the alternative.
seaturtles, mate
I wake up. I was clearly dreaming because the control rods never did that, as they physically cannot. The reactor is not built in a way which makes it possible.
Comrade Anon you saw nothing
>anon pulls out his phone and opens spotify
What song do (You) play?
The Final Countdown
>More anti Soviet propaganda shilling
Can you people give it a rest already? The show is almost pure fiction
Chernobyl happened, though
So did Three Mile Island 🙂
yes.
three mile island didn't do shit, no deaths, no one even injured, the radiation it put out wasn't enough to cause any long term health effects, the real damage was to the industry caused by anti nuclear morons overhyping the frick out of it
>Burn coal to generate steam
>Harness the power of the atom to boil water to generate steam
>Harness the power of sun itself to boil water to generate steam
FRICK SAKE IT'S ALL JUST STEAM
Always have been
How about natural gas? Hydropower? Solar power?
>natural gas
steam
>hydropower
liquid steam
>solar power
photons
>liquid steam
i leled
It 's not steam, but turbines what is the common denominator in almost all kinds of energy plants.
But what drives the turbines?
steam, water at high pressure, hot air, etc.
electricity
Fairy dust.
nothing, they're not pilotable / drivable. They're turbines.
it´s the year 2193, we do interstellar travel with our dark matter harvesting spaceships who convert the energy to make turbines rotate
Reactors can't blow up, until they just make a hole in the roof kek
Here some radioactive horror for you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kramatorsk_radiological_accident
How does somebody frick up to that degree?
it happens all the time. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-64481317
Idk man, maybe you could read the article and find out for yourself? Wouldn’t that be an achievement for a big smartypants grown up like you!
Does the pussy of Russian girls emanate radiation?
>in today's episode a clueless man disassembles strange medical equipment for scrap in Latin America
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciudad_Ju%C3%A1rez_cobalt-60_contamination_incident
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident
Give me a funky ass bassline, comrade cat.
heh
>Fusion reactors, if they work, is supposedly a lot safer without risk of meltdowns
Boo, where am I supposed to get my kinos of humanity's hubris?
You can kiss yourself in the mirror (but only on the lips).
>ruins your kino
>doesnt elaborate
>leaves
>Man this character is really out of place
>Turns out she didn't even exist
Token chick injected into the story. Many such cases.
Honestly didn't really bother me since the character never existed and was just some conglomeration of scientists, etc.
Yuri!
YURI!
Stop jacking your music into the control rods!
Windpower is not steam.
It's also complete shit for an energy grid
Do you really think that, russian engineer? Where did you get your Power engineering degree? Ural State University?
>russian
?
I'm an automation engineer but I work for a big energy company. The problem with wind is it fluctuates a lot when you want big spinning generators to anchor the frequency in your grid
Do you work with Siemens SCADA?
No, direct competitor
Emerson.
how to get a gf like this?
I too have a fictional gf
A lot of conservative White Americans sell the secrets of GE scada to russian hackers.
Why does America allow Russia destroy its infrastructure via cyber attacks?
We're a bunch of tech illiterate boomers and zoomers. Gen X and millennials are too busy being depressed.
companies in the industry/manufacturing sector like the previously mentioned Siemens were very very late to adopt cybersecurity entities. I would be willing to bet over 90% of automation systems (so for example the software governing the operation of a power plant) runs on default passwords like admin/admin