Actually they overestimated the probability to such an extent that the actual situation analyzed was highly improbable by way of considering the worst possible outcome (and because they didn't know what the actual probability was) and yet still found that with the values they calculated based on experimental values implied that they could test the bomb without turning the earth's atmosphere into a plasma killing all life on earth (except for, perhaps, tardigrades); it was never actually a real concern but morons made a big deal out of it.
The fact that they had to consider it is scary and exciting to think about but it really was never possible. If a couple of variables were maybe 10-fold different then it would have been, but the physics all checked out. People don’t understand how exact and specific atomic physics calculations are, even back then.
There are a lot of scary things you need to consider in life anon, for example, will eating food at that restaurant give you a deadly disease that rots your brain from the inside out? Maybe, probably not. But you don't know
>Have israeli grampa >stereotypical neurotic Larry David israelite with the big glasses >Pearl Harbor happens >His brother volunteered to fight in the Marines after WW2, was wounded at Guadalcanal >Meanwhile he stays at the homefront to build X-Ray and other medical equipment >turns out the company he was building medical equipment for was covertly owned by the Manhattan Project >Clearly has an inferiority complex vs. his brother with regards to war service >stretches the truth and says he helped invent the A-bomb >proudly told this tale until he died in the early 2000s at like 98.
he also gave Lee Harvey Oswald a military physical once and the day after JFK died the FBI showed up to take all the files they had on him, never shut up about that either
the israelites were desperate to have a super weapon to use on the germans
Oppenheimer wanted to use it against the Germans despite it already in ruins from all the bombings it has already taken. Japan was a Warwolf situation where they already built it so might as well use it.
yep, it was literally designed as a war crime which fit in with the military doctrine of both the uk and us during ww2, intentional and repeated targeting of civilian targets with the intention of maximum civilian casualties, a method the us still uses to this day
who ever wins gets to paint their opponent as a genocidal maniac and sweep their own actions under the rug as justified to stop those crazy maniacs
that people still fall for this over and over again shows how moronic people are
> sir the bomb might turn the entire atmosphere into a fireball and kill us all > at least we'll take the japs with us Frederick, that's all that matters now
The threat of it destroying the earth was the possibility of igniting the entire atmosphere, which was pretty thoroughly discussed by Opp and Teller. Fermi did take bets on it tho.
>There is not the slightest indication that [nuclear energy] will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will. >some goofballs ignore fricking Albert Einstein and do it anyways
>Mr. President, there's a chance we could light the Earth's atmosphere on fire, killing all sentient life and turning our green and blue marble into literal Hell. >We've got a war to win, son.
it was zero but they couldn't be sure they had the physics right until they tested it
So it was non zero. What would happen if they were wrong?
That's moronic.
What if posting this thread destroyed the Earth? You couldn't be sure.
I could though that's moronic.
But it’s a non-zero chance, b***hboy
Digits and this post destroys the Earth
Close one.
I'd post anyways
The goal is to defeat the enemy. They should’ve been more specific
>Oppenheimer, why did you make bomb?
>Uh, I... I am BECOME DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS!
Truly a misunderstood, kind man.
How many times did he rehearse this shit
Anon that was from the propaganda movie made by the US government. Of course he rehearsed it.
It wasn't a one-take documentary
I want to watch the movie but I don't want to go to the theatre
Then take a bit in quality and grab the torrent
There was only like a 1/16 chance. Thatw basically zero.
Actually they overestimated the probability to such an extent that the actual situation analyzed was highly improbable by way of considering the worst possible outcome (and because they didn't know what the actual probability was) and yet still found that with the values they calculated based on experimental values implied that they could test the bomb without turning the earth's atmosphere into a plasma killing all life on earth (except for, perhaps, tardigrades); it was never actually a real concern but morons made a big deal out of it.
The fact that they had to consider it is scary and exciting to think about but it really was never possible. If a couple of variables were maybe 10-fold different then it would have been, but the physics all checked out. People don’t understand how exact and specific atomic physics calculations are, even back then.
There are a lot of scary things you need to consider in life anon, for example, will eating food at that restaurant give you a deadly disease that rots your brain from the inside out? Maybe, probably not. But you don't know
>Have israeli grampa
>stereotypical neurotic Larry David israelite with the big glasses
>Pearl Harbor happens
>His brother volunteered to fight in the Marines after WW2, was wounded at Guadalcanal
>Meanwhile he stays at the homefront to build X-Ray and other medical equipment
>turns out the company he was building medical equipment for was covertly owned by the Manhattan Project
>Clearly has an inferiority complex vs. his brother with regards to war service
>stretches the truth and says he helped invent the A-bomb
>proudly told this tale until he died in the early 2000s at like 98.
he also gave Lee Harvey Oswald a military physical once and the day after JFK died the FBI showed up to take all the files they had on him, never shut up about that either
this story is 100% true
yeah turns out he had a family history of shooting presidents
gramps really dropped the ball on that one.
Just like these CERN dudes
They're also obsessed with the indian stuff
everything about nukes and radiation is so overblown and misrepresented that it might as well be a religion
You mean HBO's Chernobyl was dramatized?
Oppenheimer wanted to use it against the Germans despite it already in ruins from all the bombings it has already taken. Japan was a Warwolf situation where they already built it so might as well use it.
yep, it was literally designed as a war crime which fit in with the military doctrine of both the uk and us during ww2, intentional and repeated targeting of civilian targets with the intention of maximum civilian casualties, a method the us still uses to this day
It's not a crime if you're the victor.
who ever wins gets to paint their opponent as a genocidal maniac and sweep their own actions under the rug as justified to stop those crazy maniacs
that people still fall for this over and over again shows how moronic people are
Yolo Fomo Next you're going to tell me you're an antinatalist....
the israelites were desperate to have a super weapon to use on the germans
> sir the bomb might turn the entire atmosphere into a fireball and kill us all
> at least we'll take the japs with us Frederick, that's all that matters now
The threat of it destroying the earth was the possibility of igniting the entire atmosphere, which was pretty thoroughly discussed by Opp and Teller. Fermi did take bets on it tho.
https://www.insidescience.org/manhattan-project-legacy/atmosphere-on-fire
fermi way more based, why no movie about him?
Because Italians are only allowed to be evil mobsters in Hollywood movies
Empirical evidence is the strongest evidence you can have.
The chances are near zero, what do you want from theory alone?
>There is not the slightest indication that [nuclear energy] will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will.
>some goofballs ignore fricking Albert Einstein and do it anyways
Nazi's are THAT evil bro.
>Mr. President, there's a chance we could light the Earth's atmosphere on fire, killing all sentient life and turning our green and blue marble into literal Hell.
>We've got a war to win, son.
Based.