Completely skip their origin story; it takes up too much runtime in every FF movie. Just jump directly to a "normal" domestic scene showing us their powers. For example, an annoying neighbor comes over and Sue turns invisible so she can walk past the window without being seen.
>The opening is extremely shit, overacting and cheesy directing >Zooms out to see Johnny watching the TV as one of the others asks him how he can stand watching those dramatizations of how they got their powers
>Ben wants to watch the baseball game instead >they fight over the remote >Ben accidentally smashes it >Reed walks into the room just as this happens >stretches his arm across the room and picks up the remote >Mutters to himself that he thought for sure this model would be able to stand up to Ben >Sue walks in with an unpopped metal pot of popcorn >Asks Johnny to make it for them >Camera zooms out away from them all gathered around the TV like a family to where the villain is lurking and plotting
Protagonist and love interest. So, Alex is that stretchy guy and Florence is his wife. I'm not sure who should direct. The source material is probably too outlandish for Nolan; He did Batman but Batman is just a regular guy and he doesn't have super powers. Watchmen was good so maybe it has to be Zack Snyder.
Even in comics The Fantastic Four were iffy.
Only two of them are interesting characters the other two had to be forced into drama and made shitty human beings to be interesting.
Like one anon said if they do another movie they need to get the origin in quick and get to the meat and potatoes.
Reveal their past and personalities later or as you go.
It's like with Spider-Man people were saying the origin wasn't needed after the first Sony movie.
The Sony/Marvel Spider-Man skipped it and it worked.
It's sad that audiences now lack the ability to fill in the gaps and some outright demand the gaps to be filled for them.
should have had the 4 show up in the avengers movies in the background, in big scenes, and randomly. should have had a scene where tony works with fantastic
Doesn't that happen in Multiverse of Madness? I saw tons of webms with the scene where Wanda kills Mr Fantastic and his gang. It was Jim from The Office, lol.
That was a different universe...or timeline....or incursion....or branch...or something. Marvel has set this up so that they can do whatever the frick they want.
No, they have to keep him white so the black Iron Man girl can talk down to him like she does in the comics. The dynamic wouldn't work if they were both nonwhite.
Skip the origin and just make a fun space family adventure. Have the family dynamics be the main selling point and, importantly, it needs to have a true sense of wonder and awe. More than superheroes, these guys are adventurers who live for the sake of discovery and exploring new horizons.
Also I'd save Doom for a sequel. Apparently the MCU version will skip him in favor of Galactus which I don't think sounds too bad (Altough they'll frick it up anyway).
You can't. It doesn't work
Stretchy powers look like shit in live action. And no one wants to see a man with them.
The characters are boring and unrelatable.
Take ultimate FF as the base, but change the timeline to the 60s and make the accident transport them to the negative zone. Annihilus is the big bad who wants to conquer Earth. FF learn to use their powers and get back to earth. Post credits scene reveals that they returned to "modern" day earth, leave some easter eggs suggesting Doom runs Latveria for FF2.
Find a way to put this scene in.
And they could just steal the vibe of GOTG. Group of people learning to work together. Reed and Sue romance (Reed is to autistic to realize she's into him). Johnny and Ben bro moments. Psychedelic looking set pieces to go with the 60s vibe. EZPZ
>Reed is to autistic to realize she's into him
This is why Hollywood fails to produce a good FF movie. Reed is not autistic or social awkward. The world's smartest man is also socially smart. Reed has NO problem relating to the average man. Its the reverse, the average man has a hard time relating to Reed. But Sue can relate to Reed because.....She loves him and its love that motivates their relationship. Hollywood producers dont understand these subversions of their tired character tropes so FF fails on screen again and again.
The other major trope subversion is that the FF are a family of explorers that the public thinks are superheroes due to marketing. Reed manipulated the public perception of the group to make everyone think they are celibrities and super heroes as a way to make up for sidelining their normal lives. Its too subtle for a hollywood producer to understand.
Elastic powers are too goofy and they don’t fit a stoic super genius like Mr fantastic. Luffy is the only character to make them work and that’s because he’s goofy as well
indiana jones meets the incredibles.
fantastic four are alive in the late 50s early 60s and fall into a time loop that transfers them to modern times. their main nemesis is dr doom, a scientist wizard dictator who could easily be an allegory for putin.
i mean christ, the heart of the fantastic four is about family, and disney is about what, whats it about FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT
if disney screw up the 4 they deserve to die
also important to cast white characters and a list celebs
It could only work as a series. And they would train wreck it like GoT and Westworld.
The only movie that could work would be one about Doctor Doom, but since they would have to make him a gay black woman it will never happen.
>Could a Fantastic Four movie work?
At this point I don't think so >How would you handle it?
I suppose Marvel wants the Hickman run, they should go with Byrne but what gives.
Movie begins in the 60s, Reed is working on a time machine along with the rest, experiment goes wrong, they get their powers and get transported to modern day. Villain is Mole Man but there's a Doom tease at the end. >Matt Smith as Reed >Vanessa Kirby as Sue >John Cena as Ben >Cole Sprouse as Johnny
Useless discussion, really. All of this assumes there's any chance in hell the movie could be good, which there isn't
Of course it can. The fantastic four was the first superhero team and was Marvel's top selling comic for decades. You need to make sure the actors have top tier chemistry. Have a simple introduction nothing to major and then have Doom be the bad guy.
Make all of them black and make 3 of them have a crush on the thing
which 3? I would make it Mr Fantastic, the Human Torch and the Thing
I like your humor
Completely skip their origin story; it takes up too much runtime in every FF movie. Just jump directly to a "normal" domestic scene showing us their powers. For example, an annoying neighbor comes over and Sue turns invisible so she can walk past the window without being seen.
>The opening is extremely shit, overacting and cheesy directing
>Zooms out to see Johnny watching the TV as one of the others asks him how he can stand watching those dramatizations of how they got their powers
>Ben wants to watch the baseball game instead
>they fight over the remote
>Ben accidentally smashes it
>Reed walks into the room just as this happens
>stretches his arm across the room and picks up the remote
>Mutters to himself that he thought for sure this model would be able to stand up to Ben
>Sue walks in with an unpopped metal pot of popcorn
>Asks Johnny to make it for them
>Camera zooms out away from them all gathered around the TV like a family to where the villain is lurking and plotting
It could work but the source material isnt understood by hollywood. This is why all adaptations fail.
nobody cares about them, they ruined the silver surfer and I will never forgive them
Doesn't seem diverse enough, sorry.
Protagonist and love interest. So, Alex is that stretchy guy and Florence is his wife. I'm not sure who should direct. The source material is probably too outlandish for Nolan; He did Batman but Batman is just a regular guy and he doesn't have super powers. Watchmen was good so maybe it has to be Zack Snyder.
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Even in comics The Fantastic Four were iffy.
Only two of them are interesting characters the other two had to be forced into drama and made shitty human beings to be interesting.
Like one anon said if they do another movie they need to get the origin in quick and get to the meat and potatoes.
Reveal their past and personalities later or as you go.
It's like with Spider-Man people were saying the origin wasn't needed after the first Sony movie.
The Sony/Marvel Spider-Man skipped it and it worked.
It's sad that audiences now lack the ability to fill in the gaps and some outright demand the gaps to be filled for them.
If prime Alba couldn't make that steaming pile of crap work...
Sue wasn't hispanic, so it was never going to work.
It's unfilmable
should have had the 4 show up in the avengers movies in the background, in big scenes, and randomly. should have had a scene where tony works with fantastic
Doesn't that happen in Multiverse of Madness? I saw tons of webms with the scene where Wanda kills Mr Fantastic and his gang. It was Jim from The Office, lol.
That was a different universe...or timeline....or incursion....or branch...or something. Marvel has set this up so that they can do whatever the frick they want.
It all starts with Mr fantastic, no one sees him as cool and whatnot.
Mr Fantastic will be a POC
No, they have to keep him white so the black Iron Man girl can talk down to him like she does in the comics. The dynamic wouldn't work if they were both nonwhite.
well yea kang is his grandson and you don't spontaneously crank out a george floyd from a white grandfather
Mr Fanatstic will be black and Sue Storm will be taking BBC
Skip the origin and just make a fun space family adventure. Have the family dynamics be the main selling point and, importantly, it needs to have a true sense of wonder and awe. More than superheroes, these guys are adventurers who live for the sake of discovery and exploring new horizons.
Also I'd save Doom for a sequel. Apparently the MCU version will skip him in favor of Galactus which I don't think sounds too bad (Altough they'll frick it up anyway).
You can't. It doesn't work
Stretchy powers look like shit in live action. And no one wants to see a man with them.
The characters are boring and unrelatable.
>Stretchy powers look like shit in live action. And no one wants to see a man with them.
What if he isn't stretchy at all and he's just the smartest man alive? Like Ozymandias from Watchmen.
Take ultimate FF as the base, but change the timeline to the 60s and make the accident transport them to the negative zone. Annihilus is the big bad who wants to conquer Earth. FF learn to use their powers and get back to earth. Post credits scene reveals that they returned to "modern" day earth, leave some easter eggs suggesting Doom runs Latveria for FF2.
Find a way to put this scene in.
And they could just steal the vibe of GOTG. Group of people learning to work together. Reed and Sue romance (Reed is to autistic to realize she's into him). Johnny and Ben bro moments. Psychedelic looking set pieces to go with the 60s vibe. EZPZ
>Reed is to autistic to realize she's into him
This is why Hollywood fails to produce a good FF movie. Reed is not autistic or social awkward. The world's smartest man is also socially smart. Reed has NO problem relating to the average man. Its the reverse, the average man has a hard time relating to Reed. But Sue can relate to Reed because.....She loves him and its love that motivates their relationship. Hollywood producers dont understand these subversions of their tired character tropes so FF fails on screen again and again.
The other major trope subversion is that the FF are a family of explorers that the public thinks are superheroes due to marketing. Reed manipulated the public perception of the group to make everyone think they are celibrities and super heroes as a way to make up for sidelining their normal lives. Its too subtle for a hollywood producer to understand.
Elastic powers are too goofy and they don’t fit a stoic super genius like Mr fantastic. Luffy is the only character to make them work and that’s because he’s goofy as well
indiana jones meets the incredibles.
fantastic four are alive in the late 50s early 60s and fall into a time loop that transfers them to modern times. their main nemesis is dr doom, a scientist wizard dictator who could easily be an allegory for putin.
i mean christ, the heart of the fantastic four is about family, and disney is about what, whats it about FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT
if disney screw up the 4 they deserve to die
also important to cast white characters and a list celebs
What's that, you say you want a diverse cast and Sue should be played by the granddaughter of the movie's primary bankroller?
No Black folk, that's all it will take.
It'd have to be animated like spiderverse was to be taken seriously.
But at the point, it will just be a shitty Incredibles.
all 4 need to be white and decent actors
thats it
I'd be willing to let Ben's VA be a israelite as long as he had the right voice for the role.
It could only work as a series. And they would train wreck it like GoT and Westworld.
The only movie that could work would be one about Doctor Doom, but since they would have to make him a gay black woman it will never happen.
>Could a Fantastic Four movie work?
At this point I don't think so
>How would you handle it?
I suppose Marvel wants the Hickman run, they should go with Byrne but what gives.
Movie begins in the 60s, Reed is working on a time machine along with the rest, experiment goes wrong, they get their powers and get transported to modern day. Villain is Mole Man but there's a Doom tease at the end.
>Matt Smith as Reed
>Vanessa Kirby as Sue
>John Cena as Ben
>Cole Sprouse as Johnny
Useless discussion, really. All of this assumes there's any chance in hell the movie could be good, which there isn't
Of course it can. The fantastic four was the first superhero team and was Marvel's top selling comic for decades. You need to make sure the actors have top tier chemistry. Have a simple introduction nothing to major and then have Doom be the bad guy.
genderswap em and make all 3 have big breasts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic_Four_(2015_film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic_Four_(2005_film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic_Four:_Rise_of_the_Silver_Surfer
Hell, I don't know, you tell me? The one I haven't seen is 2015.
I never see Cinemaphile talk about these movies ever, so they must be pretty bad. That 2015 one looks horrible.