Could a film this even be made in current year? What would audiences and critics make of it?

Could a film this even be made in current year? What would audiences and critics make of it? I can't imagine a zoomer even being able to sit through the first 15 minutes.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Netflix released a remake of the film this is a loose remake of. It looked like dogshit.
    > I can't imagine a zoomer even being able to sit through the first 15 minutes.
    Apparently even in 1977 that threw off audiences. A lot were confused and weren't sure they were watching the right movie.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I can't imagine a zoomer even being able to sit through the first 15 minutes.
    Seems like a win/win situation for a patrician theater attendee. Imagine watching kino and a quarter-hour in all the self-filtered morons get up and frick off somewhere else. What a blessing that would be.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I can't imagine a zoomer even being able to sit through the first 15 minutes.
    ENTER

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well it flopped hard when it came out.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My dick flops in your mother's c**t.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of classic movies flopped when they came out, but they made their money back through home media.
      Streaming ended this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It released the same week as Star Wars, any film would fail with that release window.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Critics also didn't like it at the time.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, it's funny because Sorcerer actually came out a month later. And it flopped because moronic boomers were STILL söying over their space capeshit

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what would have been a better title for the film?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Barbarian Swordmaster

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here Comes the Boom

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Warlock

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wizard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dynamite Truck: Criminal Drivers

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Duck! You sucker

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lazaro

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but there was no lazarus in the movie...
        >IT WAS ONE OF THE TRUCKS!!!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Exorcist II

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Payoff

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The Payoff
        Good title. I read somewhere that the working title was "Ballbreaker". "Wages of Fear" sounds too homosexual and "Sorcerer" just confused audiences.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holocaust of the Lost

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shameless self bump because the world "holocaust" was regularly used, not referencing WW2, in film titles and even dialogue until the 90s. Cary Elwes says "holocaust cloak" in the highly israeli Princess Bride (1987)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jungle Truck Force

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      should have just left it Wages of Fear tbqh

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They did end up calling it Wages of Fear in Europe and some other regions, because it bombed so hard in the US, they also cut out the opening international scenes and the downbeat ending in the Euro version.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the vignettes and the ending are great though, literally just the title was terrible. Victor's story in paris is one of the best sequences of the film

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I agree, it sounds like it was an absolute fiasco

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No man is just anything.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ;_;

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When his mind wandered from the job, fate appeared.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the downbeat ending in the Euro version.

          The bit where the mafia catches up with Roy Scheider? So Roy's alive in the euroending?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think so, perhaps they just cut out the gunshot, or maybe the whole end bar scene

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              But the dance scene is so perfect

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >gunshot
              There's no gunshot sound in the ending.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Salary of Terror

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Big Trucks With DY-NO-MITE!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Direct-Deposit of Doom

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man’s Inferno.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I did a whole thread on this flick a week or so back. It's quite good and not that badly dated despite being from 1977.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorcerer_(film)

      >what would have been a better title for the film?

      should have just left it Wages of Fear tbqh

      >should have just left it Wages of Fear tbqh

      Indeed, it was literally a remake but this was the hippy-dippy pretentious 70s.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this is one of millennial Cinemaphile's favorite films

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Big Titty Truck Holocaust

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wagies of Fear

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Two men and a truck x 2

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rumble in the Jungle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Mandalorian season 2 episode 7

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nitroglycerin

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Big Rigs: Over The Road Racing Movie Film For Theaters Requiem

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bonus Situation

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shaman

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Truck Black folk in the Jungle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Smooth Ride 2

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's not very good to begin with
    the suspense in Wages of Fear is a million times that of Sorcerer
    Sorcerer has no character development like WoF, so you don't care what happens to them
    WoF has like 50 minutes of set up before they go on the dynamite haul

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wages of fear sucks. The ending sucks, the characters suck. The scene where they can't slow down is good though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like you didn't actually watch Sorcerer.
      >Sorcerer has no character development like WoF, so you don't care what happens to them
      Ludicrous. Half the movie is dedicated to this.
      >WoF has like 50 minutes of set up
      As above, it's even longer in Sorcerer before the dynamite run starts.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sorcerer has no character development
      did you mentally block out the first half of the film?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This film is more beautiful than tarkovsky to me. It's more technologically advanced and almost as aesthetically pure.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's the Intolerance to exorcist's Birth of a Nation

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The bridge scene is peak gritty 70s "looks like it would be illegal to shoot this today" cinema

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That car tire was a better actor than all the people from MCUslop combined.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so what the frick was he even doing in Porvenir?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he had to be a professional hitman with those killing skills, so to get exiled with no money he must have killed his own boss or someone way up the chain of command. I'm not sure why he was so desperate to escape though, just buy a ticket to managua in the first place.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He was a nazi hunter. That’s why the Palestinian guy calls him a israelite dog after he kills the original driver.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        everything that guy doesn't like is a israelite.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's nice to have Cinemaphile represented in an older movie

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        then why not kill the other nazis in the village, there was for sure one since the bartender was an ss officer, and it seems likely there were others.

        probably something with the dude he shot at the beginning.

        to tie this in, he killed "marquez" so he could get the job, but why was he so desperate for the cash, even if low on funds he still had enough to bribe his way in and rent the house, so why not just use that money had before to get to less of a shithole

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Did he even want the job though? I thought they forced him to go with them after he killed “Marquez”. He didn’t seem eager.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            he was pissed he didn't get it, it's not that they forced him to, the owner stopped Kassem from killing him and didn't have him arrested because he was the only other competent driver in the village. Nilo killed marquez for that very reason so he could take his spot otherwise why hang around after killing marquez, why not just slit his throat and leave?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The guy specifically calls him a zionist, very based and shows where culture were at.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >so what the frick was he even doing in Porvenir?

      It's never explained.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        probably something with the dude he shot at the beginning.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the part at the start where they blew up the Iraelis 🙂

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I can't imagine a zoomer even being able to sit through the first 15 minutes
    The 20 first minutes introducing the characters was kino of the highest order.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The soundtrack by Tangerine Dream was better than the actual movie!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love the music that plays when they're fixing up the trucks

      ?si=rdnXwsH8yVx9lyZY

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Tangerine Dream
        My beloved

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >sorcerer
      >thief
      two of the best soundtracks ever

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I can't imagine a zoomer even being able to sit through the first 15 minutes
    Don't worry, we have the Netflix adaptation for that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      andrew tate looking ass

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      will one of them still be an israli killing palestinian?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >we want the Andrew Tate audience

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OK, I'm torrenting it now - you frickers have hyped this gritty 70's flick enough. Plus I liked Roy in Blue Thunder and Jaws.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Buckle up, you're in for kino

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why is this stupid website all of a sudden showing a lot of respect for this movie. I remember a decade ago no one even knew this movie on the internet or outside of it, which was when I first saw it. Isn't this board full of contrarians who would hate this kind of movie? Usually films from the 70s are hated here for being too hipster. Don't you all prefer the 80s mindless action films because they are "bazed"? What changed?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also my contribution to a previous thread
      >https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/198690551/#q198696913

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Friedkin has always been well respected on Cinemaphile, both because he's genuinely a great director and because he terrorizes his actors (thus based). Sorcerer has been popular on here ever since it got a proper Blu Ray release.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all of a sudden
      didn't realize several years ago counts as all of a sudden

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        On this website? Yes it is recent.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not even remotely, I first watched this because of constant threads on here praising it and that was back in 2017 or 2018. You're just oblivious

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      friedkin board gay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the film has been talked about for years, redditor. go back to your cucktown and letterbox threads, homosexual. fricking tourist

      >contrarian
      anyone that uses this word to describe Cinemaphile is an irredeemable homosexual, total newbie

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anyone that uses this word
        anyone who uses the word is an idiot period. It is a meaningless contrived concept for lazy idiots who can't handle differing opinions.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          there is a set of people who have convinced themselves that if they dislike what "everyone else" likes that they are intellectuals. if you said you thought tangerine dream made great soundtracks they'd counter with hans Zimmer. if you said Hans Zimmer was great they'd counter with praise for tangerine dream. they likely haven't thought much about either.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            maybe there are some, but it's doubtful there are enough people who do that often enough to warrant making up a word/category to describe them. At this point, the word is used more often as a defense of something that's popular when someone can't make an actual argument in defense of popular thing. The term should be stricken from an intelligent person's vocabulary, and ideally, stricken from English itself.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            True fact Hans Zimmer owns ex-Tangerine Dream member Chris Franke's Moog modular system

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't have any active accounts on either of those websites so try harder dumbfrick. And ironically, this movie was probably appreciated on reddit earlier compared to Cinemaphile. Also, there's ample evidence that the opinions of this site are in fact contrarian, but in a roundabout way. I just know losers like you are always waiting to claim some obscure media before it's becomes mainstream because it makes you a "zazed homosexual". Take a hike frickface.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't have any active accounts
          A-ha! So you have inactive accounts! You've been found out.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh no no no no no whatever shall I do with my life now I use other websites on the internet the low IQ homosexuals on 4chin are going to track me down oh no no no no no my life is oooveeer4iiixjskKns

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          fooling no one, dumb homosexual. stop talking you stupid b***h

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          go back homosexualron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally the first decent rec I ever got from Cinemaphile after Barry Lyndon. I've been here for what feels like decades.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because I watched it last week and started a thread about it.

      https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/198498027/#198498027

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I missed this thread then. Some threads don't show up on my phone, and yes I use a phone for 4chin.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn't Straight Time get the same reverence and second looks like Sorcerer does?
    It was the best film of 1978

    I guess you queers have to wait for your favorite podcast to talk about it first.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not similar at all and many films did the same plot better.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Great movie, maybe Dustin Hoffman's best.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        More than Dog's Day or Straw Dogs?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe not the best overall movie but Hoffman gives the best performance from all I can think of.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That was Pacino in Dog Day

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The spectacle of it just isn’t as grand. It’s great as well, but it doesn’t have the color, soundtrack or the intensity of Sorcerer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I saw this one a long time ago, and I don't remember a thing about it. Off the top of my head I remember the directors name was something strange like ulu grossbard. First of all even for cult obscure films to be noticed, it atleast needs to be in the catalog of a major studio. If it's too obscure to even have any pirated versions out there, then nobody is gonna "rediscover" it. Next of all, sorcerer is just more entertaining. Straight time was well made but it's too offbeat and the action in the film is underplayed, like there's no sensationalization for the regular audience. Plus I think a lot of crime dramas from the 80s and 90s completely obscured it, because they just had more box office appeal; cool factor. Plus I think friedkin has more pull in the industry, he was married to a studio head after all. Straight time was made by a small time actors' collective studio and mostly no one involved in the film has any pull to re-release it on blu-ray or get it remastered.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RIP Emmet Walsh

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick no

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I tried to watch this movie, it seemed boring as hell

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Exorcist
    >French Connection
    >Sorcerer
    >To Live and Die in LA
    >Bug
    >Killer Joe
    Friedkin kicks fricking ass.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fr fr on god

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot Cruising

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The original is better

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NTA but this one gave me a sort of "purgatory" vibe, it was more transcendent, don't want to sound pretentious but I felt it more.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's not very good to begin with
      the suspense in Wages of Fear is a million times that of Sorcerer
      Sorcerer has no character development like WoF, so you don't care what happens to them
      WoF has like 50 minutes of set up before they go on the dynamite haul

      Wrong answer.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Boomer meme movie where a shitty car drives over a bridge

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably the greatest film ever made if we consider all angles from technology to direction to cast, and the fact that movies are now over.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish there were more modern films with this trope: a group of morally ambiguous men in a desperate situation, trying to survive and stay rational, with no women to unnecessarily dramatize the situation or pit them against each other. The stakes are clear and it's obvious they won't all make it, so they're virtually forced to work together despite their differences. Are there any modern films that pull off this kind of narrative as well as Sorcerer did? Probably not, since the trope requires the characters to succeed through their masculinity and stoicism, not in spite of it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Embrace of the Serpent
      >as well as Sorcerer did
      uhh... no.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Apollo 13 still feels like a modern film. Very brutal mogging of recent space sci-fis

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wish there were more modern films with this trope: a group of morally ambiguous men in a desperate situation, trying to survive and stay rational, with no women to unnecessarily dramatize the situation or pit them against each other. The stakes are clear and it's obvious they won't all make it, so they're virtually forced to work together despite their differences. Are there any modern films that pull off this kind of narrative as well as Sorcerer did? Probably not, since the trope requires the characters to succeed through their masculinity and stoicism, not in spite of it.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Should have been called "Snore-ceror"

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sorcerer thread up for more than 10 hours
    Cinemaphile is healing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Monday is usually the coziest day with the most high quality posts, all the normalgays are suffering at work

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what are other friedkinos to check out?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ever heard about the hidden gem called the Exorcist?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The boys in the band, people vs Paul crump, to live and die in LA.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what are other friedkinos to check out?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this was honestly the dumbest fricking movie I've ever seen.
        >EDGY SECRET SERVICE AGENT PUSHES THE LAW.
        >HIS PARTNER IS THE SOUND OF REASON.
        >THE VILLAIN IS WILLEM DAFOE BUT HES FRICKING STUPID!
        >NOTHING HAPPENS BESIDES A CAR CHASE SEQUENCE
        >AND JUST WHEN THINGS COULDN'T GO BAD. THEY GO BAD. BADLY.
        >RONIN SECRET SERVICE AGENT GETS KILLED IN SHOOTOUT
        >PARTNER FINDS THE VILLAIN. KILLS HIM. MORPHS INTO HIS BOSS. WEARS LEATHER JACKET.
        >FIN

        the music was kino though

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          really homosexualy post

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The absolute fricking state of Cinemaphile

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I agree, French Connection is one of my favorites and TLADILA was just shittier in every way, cheesy as hell and the lead actor had no charisma with his partner, making the end so out of left field. Made for TV tier shit, including the partner literally killed a day before retirement.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      see

      You forgot Cruising

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exorcist and French Connection are the only ones that can match this Kino

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