coupla questions..maybe plot holes

1. Why was there stone stairs going to nowhere in the middle of a jungle?
2. Why did Boromir become a a bad guy all of a sudden. Totally out of character
3. Why were they collecting wood for fire like normal. But what do they expect to do with it?

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    the movie is Lord of the rings

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. wasn't a jungle
    2. the wills of men are easily corrupted by the draw of the ring
    3. burn it

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is bait but I'm autistic and can't help it
    1: Middle Earth has been host to many civilizations that are long gone by the time LotR occurs. It could be any remnant of a settlement still standing much as Roman columns exist in locations otherwise empty of Roman architecture.
    2. The ring is literally a part of Sauron and contains the power to corrupt others. It is one of Tolkien's major themes that evil cannot create, only corrupt.
    3. I'm not sure what the issue is here. They didn't know they would be attacked right then so they were camping for a time. Firewood for fire.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      So these amazing people just used to walk up and down stairs which didn't go anywhere. For what. The view?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Seat_of_Seeing

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yep.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It may have led to a watchtower, or a banquet hall, or any number of things. Parts of ruins can survive while others don't.
        If that doesn't do it for you just remember that details like that are often for cinematic value. Amon Hen is not given a lot of description in the book so a few ruins are added in the movie to give terrain effects and combat acrobatics.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          In the middle of a forest with nothing else around it? A stone step up to what? A wooden hut?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you ever been Cinemaphile? Even hiking trails can have stairs. My uncle had a small farm that had stairs leading down to a creek nearby just to make things easier

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I thout Cinemaphile was cancled after season 1?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fire wood. In Middle earth?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Keeps the Ents in line.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, what's the issue?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Are you joking?
          Would you like a menu too

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Apparently yes. I'm not understanding the joke or whatever. You gather wood to make a fire. Where is the fire? Middle Earth. Where is the wood? In the woods. Where are the characters? In the woods within Middle Earth planning to make a fire.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              >You gather wood to make a fire. Where is the fire? Middle Earth. Where is the wood? In the woods. Where are the characters? In the woods within Middle Earth planning to make a fire.
              Poetic

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn’t make sense though it’s just circular logic.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          It’s MIDDLE EARTH lol

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The ring is literally a part of Sauron and contains the power to corrupt others. It is one of Tolkien's major themes that evil cannot create, only corrupt.
      Not only this, but the ring has a will of its own and corrupts others in its goal of returning to Sauron's ownership. It was probably corrupting Boromir in that moment with the intent of him taking it closer to Mordor and getting killed while wielding it, where Sauron's agents could more readily reunite him with the ring.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        In fact IIRC Tolkien wrote that the ring only passed into Bilbo's ownership by its own will because by the time he came across it, Sauron's power had recuperated enough that the ring felt it necessary to leave Gollum's possession, who had safeguarded it for centuries while Sauron was weak and powerless.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I would have thought it would be desperate for any chance to get away from him. If it didn’t happen upon Bilbo who fricking knows when someone else would have found it.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        In fact IIRC Tolkien wrote that the ring only passed into Bilbo's ownership by its own will because by the time he came across it, Sauron's power had recuperated enough that the ring felt it necessary to leave Gollum's possession, who had safeguarded it for centuries while Sauron was weak and powerless.

        I really like the concept of the ring fricking over it's owners to reunite with Sauron.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I really like the idea of the ring suffering in that cave having to listen to Gollum for hundreds of years.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's based. What other series has a literal ring written better than most modern characters?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >evil cannot create, only corrupt
      but Sauron created the ring

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        he was a good guy deep down
        and a good friend

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        He didn't invent the concept of israeliteelry, though.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's just a theme, not an absolute rule

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why was there stone stairs going to nowhere in the middle of a jungle?

    They were ruins
    2. Why did Boromir become a a bad guy all of a sudden. Totally out of character

    Because men are easily corruptible and he wanted the ring to save Gondor

    3. Why were they collecting wood for fire like normal. But what do they expect to do with it?
    What the frick do you mean, they were camping they needed wood for fire

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They were ruins
      >2. Why did Borom
      Where were the rest of the building

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gone. Next question

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Stone?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            People tend to loot everything from ruins given enough time, even the stones. Look at castles, churches, cottages, and other old buildings around England and many will contain some stones that were looted from an even old Roman building, wall, or other infrastructure.

            The stairs may have been too cumbersome to dismantle, while the rest of the building was taken away piece by piece over thousands of years. Or perhaps there was a landslide and the part that the stairs connected too was sent downhill and covered by soil.

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. Ruins of a previous civilization
    2. Imagine being right next to a super-powerful weapon that you think could save your entire civilization from being murdered and raped by hordes of your enemies, but then the old wizard, who doesn't tell anyone who he actually is, and doesn't even show any wizard powers except some fireworks, decides that the thing to do is to give it to a 4 foot tall guy who has no military experience and have him somehow figure out how to throw it into a volcano in the middle of Mordor.
    3. Don't remember that part

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >and doesn't even show any wizard powers except some fireworks
      Boromir wasn't as well-read as his brother, but he still would have known that Gandalf was more than a regular old man, and likely something more than even an elf or Numenorean of old. He would have seen Gandalf coming to Gondor as a child and heard his father mention for how many long generations of past stewards the old wizard had been dealing into their ancient library.
      Living 20 lives of men is definitely a powerful magic.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hmm, good point actually. You got me there.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it called Lord of the Rings when it’s just one ring the whole time? Sauron was the Lord of the One Ring.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jackson left it out of the movies but Lord of the Rings is Sauron’s sports bar in Minas Morgul, well known for their onion rings

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The wraiths wore all wearing rings as well. Sauron could rule over them by ruling over their rings,

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was a typo in translation from the Japanese version.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Loads of homosexual replies
    Not 1 post addressing OP pointing out they are in a forest with a few tiny bits of stone. And yes one big element is the stairs to nowhere.
    Stop making shit up it was just badly set pieced

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    1) it was a forest and a ruins of an ancient outpost
    2) boromir was shown being tempted by it both at elrond's house and on the mountain
    3) they were preparing for supper and then dinner

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't Tom Bombadil just assrape Sauron?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      He wasn’t gay and he had a smoking hot wife that would let him do anything he wanted to her.

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >1. Why was there stone stairs going to nowhere in the middle of a jungle?
    You didn't see the giant ass statues in the region before? Obviously some pilgrimage site or old ruins from the olden times. What a moronic thing to wonder about.
    >2. Why did Boromir become a a bad guy all of a sudden. Totally out of character
    From how belligerant he was at the Council, and the side-looks Gandalf and Aragorn gave him through the whole trip you should guess there would be a weakness of character about him; especially with the temptation of the ring, which from the opening narrative blatantly stated the power of the ring corrupts the hearts of men.
    >3. Why were they collecting wood for fire like normal. But what do they expect to do with it?
    Because they stopped to camp for the night since they had to disembark from their boat travel past the waterfalls, they specifically state that in dialogue.

    Are you a straight moron or just baiting for replies?

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Try reading the books instead of watching the movies.

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    the elf and the dwarf didnt seem bothered by the ring. they should have just not told the men about it

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. There wasn't always a jungle there. Man made structures were abandoned, fell to ruin, and vegetation grow over them.
    2 The evil magic ring corrupted him into thinking he could do more good by taking the ring and using it.
    3. Light a fire.

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