>Create the best representation for strong independent female characters and black minorities.

>Create the best representation for strong independent female characters and black minorities.
>No one was able to replicate what you have done to this day.
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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, it wouldn't matter to Cinemaphile at all if she was actually well written, just the fact that she's black will be enough for this board to label her as a bad, annoying, or the worst character.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >to label her as a bad, annoying, or the worst character.
      But Numbuh 4 exists.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >not liking Numbuh 4
        uncultured swine

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          This, everyone knows the worst character is numbuh 3

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry anon my finger slipped I was trying to say numbuh 2 is the worst character

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              Numbuh 2's solo episodes were second only to Numbuh 5's

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Counterpoint: Numbuh 2 only being good in solo episodes sucks ass for a team show and he also came with Tommy.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Tommy was annoying, but Numbuh 2's episodes were great. The Noir and Flying episodes were a fun departure.
                Thinking about it, I don't think KND had any bad episodes. I

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't think KND had any bad episodes
                The Chad heavy episodes tended to suck. Also some of the Lizzie heavy episodes were godawful.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Never liked how incompetent Chad became after his heel turn. Even the reveal that he was an undercover agent couldn't save him from the joke he immediately became,

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                When the Ginger scottish b***h was introduced. She was so bad and obnoxious.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Numbuh 5 and number 3 are the most beloved female character by Cinemaphile
      Have you ever seen a knd thread?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ummhh, excuse me? I have been here for almost two years so I know /misc/ ruined the board in 2016

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      /misc/ are not allowed outside of their dumpster fire
      there is no room for bigotry on Cinemaphile

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        kys Black personlover

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's funny how you think you have any say over this whatsoever.
        Reminder:
        > [YOU ARE NOT IN CONTROL]

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Frick you israelite Hispanic Black person asiatic chink mudslime roach poojeet homosexual 41% troony aids bugchaser woman.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        tell that to the my life as a teenage robot posters, they can't stand trannies

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        except mopst imes is Cinemaphile (tumblr) race baiting

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You need to be at least 18 to post here

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tom Warbuton actually knew what kids like and entertained that, simple as.

      >just the fact that she's black will be enough for this board to label her as a bad, annoying, or the worst character.
      Frick off with your fanfiction you zoomie liberal. Every KND thread I've seen since the show was on the air loves Numbuh 5.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm Hitler and I think she's fun.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        well I am triple hitler! Plus I'm five different Mussolinis! And I LOVE HER!

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You apologize right fricking now or I'll dox you, fatlard tumblrina.

      You and I both know that everything past 2005 sucks dick writing wise.
      The 2010s were a horrible time for animation and fanfic millennial tumblrinas cannot write period. They cannot write a good character worth a shit.

      If KND were written in today's time then it would go like this
      "Stop being you so much"
      "What do you mean me?"
      "You know (You)"
      "OI IT'S BECAUSE I'M AUSTRALIAN, ISN'T IT, YOU CHEEKY LITTLE BASTARD?"
      "OI THAT'S MY LINE, NUMBUH 4."
      "Numbuh 1 , you're not suppose to sound like that"
      "Yeah, but the moron who wrote me clearly doesn't understand the difference between classy british accents and OI M8 HUW U DO Hyuck hyuck."
      "No you moron, that's exactly what I meant"
      "An Australian stereotype?"
      "-_- I just fricking said it"
      "Australian, right?"
      "UGHH."
      You yourselves have no idea, right Cinemaphilemblr?
      "A Moron, you're a moron, Numbuh 4"
      "OOoohhhhh... not because I'm white and you're black"
      " ... this is going to be good"
      "Because black strong leader ... because you're black, that's why you're so smart and common sensical"
      "It's because I used to be the goddamn leader of the KND you dolt. Before the incident"
      "Oohh ... black related crimes"
      "Is this little - for real?"
      "Because black go the baddest when they get decomissioned, like your sister"
      " .because I let Numbuh 1 get balded, holy shit did anyone even watch this show before writing for it?"
      "Okay but blacks go insane when they don't ..."
      "My sister is naturally insane cause when you're the top of the top and they throw you like a rug that's how you feel"
      "Not like you'd know that since you're black and all, you started from the bottom."
      "Sweet fricking Jesus did whoever write this have a threesome with Tumblr and /misc/ for a year?"
      "362 went insane cause he's ...
      "what what the frick are you say now? he's black coded?"
      "he's white, white people go insane"
      "Oh that's just, I'm done. Frick Tumblr and frick /misc/ equally"

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The leader of sector V* correction. Albeit her and Numbuh 2 almost became supreme commanders in that one episode of tag.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        You sound mad.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Not being mad at Tumblr
          What are you, mad?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You apologize right fricking now or I'll dox you, fatlard tumblrina.

            You and I both know that everything past 2005 sucks dick writing wise.
            The 2010s were a horrible time for animation and fanfic millennial tumblrinas cannot write period. They cannot write a good character worth a shit.

            If KND were written in today's time then it would go like this
            "Stop being you so much"
            "What do you mean me?"
            "You know (You)"
            "OI IT'S BECAUSE I'M AUSTRALIAN, ISN'T IT, YOU CHEEKY LITTLE BASTARD?"
            "OI THAT'S MY LINE, NUMBUH 4."
            "Numbuh 1 , you're not suppose to sound like that"
            "Yeah, but the moron who wrote me clearly doesn't understand the difference between classy british accents and OI M8 HUW U DO Hyuck hyuck."
            "No you moron, that's exactly what I meant"
            "An Australian stereotype?"
            "-_- I just fricking said it"
            "Australian, right?"
            "UGHH."
            You yourselves have no idea, right Cinemaphilemblr?
            "A Moron, you're a moron, Numbuh 4"
            "OOoohhhhh... not because I'm white and you're black"
            " ... this is going to be good"
            "Because black strong leader ... because you're black, that's why you're so smart and common sensical"
            "It's because I used to be the goddamn leader of the KND you dolt. Before the incident"
            "Oohh ... black related crimes"
            "Is this little - for real?"
            "Because black go the baddest when they get decomissioned, like your sister"
            " .because I let Numbuh 1 get balded, holy shit did anyone even watch this show before writing for it?"
            "Okay but blacks go insane when they don't ..."
            "My sister is naturally insane cause when you're the top of the top and they throw you like a rug that's how you feel"
            "Not like you'd know that since you're black and all, you started from the bottom."
            "Sweet fricking Jesus did whoever write this have a threesome with Tumblr and /misc/ for a year?"
            "362 went insane cause he's ...
            "what what the frick are you say now? he's black coded?"
            "he's white, white people go insane"
            "Oh that's just, I'm done. Frick Tumblr and frick /misc/ equally"

            >yes,yes everything is tumblr

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        2005 was kino

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        truly post 2005, they'd write all their dialogue while referencing Cinemaphile Cinemaphile shit lmao

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >seething rightoid
        >"OLD GUD, NUW BAD!!!!!" gay
        >threatens to dox
        >is a complete shizo

        Your post is pin-point perfect summation of everything that went wrong with this board and then some

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          "schizo" is that the new word of the year?
          You gen-Zers always come up with ways to misuse and overuse a word.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Any argument you were trying to make was overshadowed by the sheer autism in this post.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty sure everybody liked her. She was easily one of the best characters in the show.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everybody liked Numbuh 5, the hell are you talking about?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You haven't been here long, have you?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Half right. See, like with Toph, Numbah 5 is an approved character.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’ve never seen a single post let alone thread that has ever talked shit about Abby.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just because Miles Morales is rightfully hated doesn't mean every black character is hated.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Miles Morales is rightfully hated
        Comics miles is, spiderverse miles isnt.
        I still argue that the spider society being pro-canon event wasn't as much an attempt at artificially elevating miles, as it was an artifical attempt at forcing the "chase scene" that took like a third of the movies budget to make into the narrative.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >spiderverse miles isnt
          Across the Spiderverse totally warrants hating Miles even if Into the Spiderverse didn’t

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Across the Spiderverse totally warrants hating Miles even if Into the Spiderverse didn’t
            Again apart from the spider society being pro-canon events, what did miles PERSONALLY do to deserve the hate? It's not like he was even explicitly shown to be in the right nor were we given enough background (yet) on the full extent of the canon events and how much they've impacted the other spiderpeople for them to willingly agree with it.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Spiderverse Miles is less hated and more just considered boring, he's surrounded by a shitload more interesting spider-people in his own films

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Spiderverse Miles is less hated and more just considered boring, he's surrounded by a shitload more interesting spider-people in his own films

            How is that really a bad thing? He's the main viewpoint character and you'd want someone more normal and down to earth reacting to the wacky things and people around them.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              There's a difference between being normal and down to earth, and having zero quirks, personality traits, or anything of his own. Miles falls under the latter.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >and having zero quirks, personality traits, or anything of his own.
                Your conflating comics miles with movie miles (like every anon does whenever they shit on movie miles). Movie miles has his own active interests, quirks, familial dynamics, and personality traits.

                You can't even really compare Spiderverse Miles with peter as being a 1:1 copy the same you can with Comics Miles.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Numbuh 5 is hated here?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Come to think of it, does Cinemaphile hate any character voiced by Cree Summer?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          penny gadget

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Uhh “hate” doesn’t mean “is incredibly horny for” anon

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >homosexuals needs to create an imaginary enemy to have a point

      https://i.imgur.com/3bNg2w4.png

      >Create the best representation for strong independent female characters and black minorities.
      >No one was able to replicate what you have done to this day.
      How were they able to do it?

      because they were too subverted by commies with their degeneracy and political activism to care about art

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bad, annoying, or the worst character.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's partially true. There's only certain types of black characters that are accepted. The same people saying they like her probably cannot think of any black character that they like that isn't "cool". Whites etc often use blacks to validate their interests. It's not always straight forward, but you can look at anime in the recent years to see how black interest made it "cooler" amongst it's fans.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        White people's (mostly dudes let's be real) fetishization of black people and their culture has been constantly one of the cringest, eye rolling, disgustingly vile, legitimately societally destructive things ever

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          well it goes both ways. There's a positive obsession, as in the case you say. And negative obsessions such as if you removed all references to black people you'd kill 70% of content on Cinemaphile.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >blacks being more than 2X as prominent as israelites

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The same people saying they like her probably cannot think of any black character that they like that isn't "cool"
        Your post is moronic and ignores the fact that Steve Urkel was a nationally popular character.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >funny black man with catch phrase
          I'm not talking sitcoms. It's not at all new that there are shows with a predominately black cast or black comedians.

          Numbah 5's positive traits are not exclusive to her skin color or race. She's cool, level-headed, and can be a great support and voice of reason for Numbah 1 who can overwork himself.
          [...]
          People like Carlton and basically most of the Fresh Prince cast and a lot of them just have the family sitcom personality. Nothing people would say as "acting black."

          I wasn't saying her traits are exclusive to her race. And of course, sensible people can like black characters or others with fairness. She does fall into a common black female trope though, but id say that's dismiss-able.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Numbah 5's positive traits are not exclusive to her skin color or race. She's cool, level-headed, and can be a great support and voice of reason for Numbah 1 who can overwork himself.

        >The same people saying they like her probably cannot think of any black character that they like that isn't "cool"
        Your post is moronic and ignores the fact that Steve Urkel was a nationally popular character.

        People like Carlton and basically most of the Fresh Prince cast and a lot of them just have the family sitcom personality. Nothing people would say as "acting black."

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        i love how you guys moved the goalpost from "Cinemaphile doesn't like black characters" to "Cinemaphile only likes certain black characters"

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Almost like when a character is actually a good character and not a borderline offensive pandering piece of shit masquerading as a character that tries to hide flaws and issues with "you're just racist" people actually like them more, crazy I know

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      gay

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bait. Numbuh 5 is a sistah.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong, Numbah 5 is an honorary aryan.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You won't name any examples where this happens because you're full of shit.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lightyear had it happening like that.
        Cinemaphile was so sure she would have been the girlboss because she was black they raged even before watching the movie even if the movie made it clear Buzz was the smart one and the "friends" were slowing him down.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tbf the overall movie was unremarkable. The fact I don’t even know who this character is shows that no one even noticed her enough to complain

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hate blacks, but number 5 was pretty cool.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tumblrinas, x rejects and newbies are the only ones who think Cinemaphiles reputation applies to all boards
      So which one are you?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Knd doesn't have bad characters

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      If I had to pick a worst member of the team it be number 2.

      But I don't hate any of them particularly.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      try saying that in a fillmore thread

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fillmore! was carried by Ingrid and the perpetrators. Fillmore himself was boring as all frick. As the main guy in CSI/investigation shows usually is.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >27 replies full of seethe
      >not a single anon acknowledging the fact that this post was obviously talking about Cinemaphile's opinion on modern black characters and not KND specifically
      How did he do it? How did one post btfo of an entire board?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      /misc/ are not allowed outside of their dumpster fire
      there is no room for bigotry on Cinemaphile

      have a nice day moronic trannies.

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    She might be the only co character that pulled a great Indiana Jones plot episode
    And I'm talking about all of them even the males ones

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was mad as a kid that they never revealed the secret flavor

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        No actual answer could live up to the mystery. If they just said "Oh it's banana" or something then people could say "wait I've had banana ice cream before and it wasn't that special". It's best to leave it up to each individuals imagination.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Given context, it's caramel. It's the only base flavor easily recognizable in an instant not represented in common use, everything else is either not a base flavor, niche use, and also usually the wrong color.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          My head canon is that it was either cocaine or some magical flavor that changes to your favorite taste ever

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          It’s caramel or butterscotch adjacent because numero 1 dad said that butterscotch was the closest thing he ever got to it

          You kids have no imagination. In the KNDverse, every icecream flavor known to man is a derivative of the three flavors, Strawberry, Vanilla, and Chocolate. This is a new, rediscovered fourth flavor. It doesn’t taste exactly like anything you have ever or will ever eat, it’s a missing fundemental building block of icecream. It’s ______. Modern humans don’t have a name for it because it is a LOST flavor, and not only that, it’s a flavor that could have changed everything in how we see icecream, more important than any gold in the world.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It doesn’t taste exactly like anything you have ever or will ever eat,
            Except Numbuh Five got to try it, and started to say "that tastes just like" before getting interrupted by a communicator call. It's clearly based on some real, they just don't reveal what it is because nothing they say could ever live up to the mystery/hype.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Tasting like isn’t the same as “is”.

              Butterscotch just makes the most sense though; it's the right color, it's a distinct flavor that's clearly not a mixture of the others like most ice creams since it uses brown sugar rather than white, it's a flavor mainly associated with elderly people so kids wouldn't really be familiar with it, it was most popular decades ago so that fits with it being a "lost" flavor, and butterscotch pretty much is the real life fourth flavor of ice cream.

              Butterscotch exists, this by definition can’t.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Butterscotch just makes the most sense though; it's the right color, it's a distinct flavor that's clearly not a mixture of the others like most ice creams since it uses brown sugar rather than white, it's a flavor mainly associated with elderly people so kids wouldn't really be familiar with it, it was most popular decades ago so that fits with it being a "lost" flavor, and butterscotch pretty much is the real life fourth flavor of ice cream.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Given context, it's caramel. It's the only base flavor easily recognizable in an instant not represented in common use, everything else is either not a base flavor, niche use, and also usually the wrong color.

        It’s caramel or butterscotch adjacent because numero 1 dad said that butterscotch was the closest thing he ever got to it

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Definitely Caramel then I think.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I was mad as a kid that they never revealed the secret flavor

          I think it might have just been brown sugar

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >No one was able to replicate what you have done to this day.

    Because they wanted to write a good character who is loved by everyone, instead of being completely defined by her race and nothing else

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is this character defined by her race and nothing else?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not really.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    She's canonically the only knd member who knows about sex

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah they come from Philadelphia

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    He's his own Spider-man, but it bothers me that lately they're trying to sell him to you as a replacement for the original Spider-man

    I mean, I understood it in the Ultimate universe... But in the main universe? No thanks

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He's his own Spider-man,
      >Same enemies
      >Same love interests
      >Same city
      >Same allies
      >But he's black!!!
      c'mon now...

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        THERES SEVERAL MILES THREADS ALREADY UP YOU Black person. ARGUE THERE

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          go leave chuddy, this is a black positive spider-board!

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Speak about your self we Hate Black folk and gays here except for numbuh 5 we gave her a pass

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    He's his own Spider-man, but it bothers me that lately they're trying to sell him to you as a replacement for the original Spider-man

    I mean, I understood it in the Ultimate universe... But in the main universe? No thanks

    Don't derail this thread you Black folk, discuss your Spiderhomosexualry somewhere else

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    #1 way to make a popular black character: Just make them cool. That's literally it.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Black people in Japanese Media are either lame af or badass af. In the American animated media they're usually stuck at 5/10 no matter what. Spiderverse and Arcane are exceptions.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Being stuck at 5/10 is worse than 3/5 like they used to be in America

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous
  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anything is better than what Garnet got. For such a progressive show they really just reduced her to being token eyecandy, and is treated like a background character despite literally being apart of the main cast

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Season 1 Garnet was cool as a cucumber.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Garnet is the only gem to stay consistently good. Not only that she put herself first inline against the 3 daimonds when they first arrived.
      Pearl doesn't progress as a character after early season 3 . And Amethyst doesn't become interesting till later and immediately regresses on any growth/maturity.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        her entire story went from i have to be the leader now that rose is gone and i dont know how to muh fusion

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, considering what the show did with Pearl and Amethyst its a blessing she got sidelined

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I haven’t read the rest of this thread but I seriously think that KND is the best possible example of representation in Children’s media. All of the main characters are some flavor of “different” but nobody cared. Their nationalities played into their characterization but weren’t hamfisted, their personalities did not revolve around it, and they were all cool. I’ve never seen another diverse cast done so well.

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your virtue signalling means nothing. Numbah 3 is far superior to Numbah 5.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon you need to distinguish between girls you think they're cool and girls you want to sleep with
      Numbuh 3 is the latter

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    In spite of the new Animaniacs show being mid as frick I really liked Nora Norita as a character.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That pointy nose gotta go

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That pointy nose gotta stay

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Never bothered watching the new show but her design does things for me. It's solid.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Her line about pulling up the ladder behind her was funny.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I couldn't get into her character, and the trade off of characters we lost to get her wasn't worth it. Nurse should have been the new CEO not the OC.

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    the best representation for strong independent female characters and black minorities.
    >>No one was able to replicate what you have done to this day.
    Excuse me?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      LA BOMBA

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      WT turned her into a massive L tbf.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      5 was still had racial stereotypes and she wasn't given great treatment either. It's clear nobody intended her to be popular or the best character since the bar was already low.

      5 wasn't given a love interest, the fat kid wanted her sister and Kuki was given way better development despite being a stupid annoying chink. Wally/Abby or Nigel/Abby would have been a better pairing but racism kept Abby as the token support role despite how Cinemaphile feels now. It's racist but they didn't plan for her popularity.

      How is she CANADIAN but a Black person?
      Lashonda is a jive talking shitty stereotype try again you dumb c**t.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >5 was still had racial stereotypes and she wasn't given great treatment either. It's clear nobody intended her to be popular or the best character since the bar was already low.
        Holy shit you trying the "it's a black stereotype to be cool" like being a martial artist is for asians?
        THEY fricking love this shit, being cool is cool for them.
        And for being the best character you just need to write her good, and she was
        >5 wasn't given a love interest, the fat kid wanted her sister and Kuki was given way better development despite being a stupid annoying chink. Wally/Abby or Nigel/Abby would have been a better pairing but racism kept Abby as the token support role despite how Cinemaphile feels now. It's racist but they didn't plan for her popularity.
        Oh so now it's racist to not assume people would love a character because it's black?
        It's arguably more racist assuming you have to because she is black, she was simply a cool girl and her success surprised everyone because they didn't expect the show to become so popular and ships are shit anyway.

        >How is she CANADIAN but a Black person?
        Anon discovers that another country has blacks again? Canadian blacks exists by the same time Colombian blacks did
        >Lashonda is a jive talking shitty stereotype try again you dumb c**t.
        Which is fine in the context of TD, a show full of stereotypes, isn't it?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Woman hands typed this fo back to your liberal echo chamber on tumblr c**t

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >How is she CANADIAN but a Black person?
        Was she canonically Canadian? I know one of the later seasons had a contestant from Australia.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Looking it up, numbuh 5’s defining trait as a character seems to be jive talking in a goofy way. She’s literally “Oh heck naw!” The character.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          > 5’s defining trait as a character seems to be jive talking in a goofy way
          OH MASSA YOU FINNA MAKE ME SQUIRT

          She sounds like a slave wench and it's not supposed to be cool but lol nostalgiagays itt

          >4 was definitely a racial stereotype,
          Australian is not a race, anon.

          Wally is stereotypical hothead potato Black person aussie what more clarification do you want b***h

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's because Numbuh 5...

    -wasn't there to replace a white character
    -wasn't obsessed with blackness
    -wasn't intended to antagonize detractors
    -didn't say cringe shit to get clicks
    -wasn't a Mary Sue
    -didn't put down her teammates (usually)
    -was one of many operatives and didn't treat herself as special because of her color
    -was in a show predating Twitter
    -the show was cool and fun anyway and didn't use outrage culture as a crutch to get people to watch
    -was put in to represent kids everywhere, not blacks
    -not every episode is about her family but the ones that do aren't about them being black

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >-wasn't there to replace a white character
      you just KNOW the first version of her concept was a white girl

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >im going to pre-emptively get outraged at something that i dont even know is true
        Thanks for admitting to all of us right away that you're a homosexual

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Numbuh 3's the only character who looks the same
          >Numbuh 1 in particular looks like a skinhead

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          The person who made this show was actually around black people and liked them. Which is a rarer trait than you'd think.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not as hard as being around whites

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Easy mode, it's the Indians you have to worry about.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >pants
          Glad they fixed that

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          numbuh two looks like that guy from the mummy movie, you know which one

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >-not every episode is about her family but the ones that do aren't about them being black
      Her father was basically Bill Cosby

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ok? That doesn't contradict what anon said, that's just a pop culture reference

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ok? That doesn't contradict what anon said, that's just a pop culture reference

        A reference I'm sure they'll get rid of if they reboot (worse) or continue (even more worse) the series...

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is not a single reference to her being black and even her father is made to not be cool so its shows her and her sister being cool despite her father and that it has nothing to do with race

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does Cree Summer even still voice act? I don't think I've heard her in a while.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes she still does
      https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0838588/

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Numbuhs 1, 2 and 4 gets to look like an idiot often enough while Numbuh 5 gets to look cool for Cinemaphile to call the show anti-white male propaganda if it came out as is today

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The numbuh 1 is basically the main character so he gets most of the badass moments in the show and for 2000s cartoons we used for the main character to be the Butt of the joke like the episode where he got naked and was trying to find a pants
      So no anon numbuh 5 and numbuh 1 were the coolest characters in the show even if it was released today

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The numbuh 1 is basically the main character so he gets most of the badass moments in the show and for 2000s cartoons we used for the main character to be the Butt of the joke like the episode where he got naked and was trying to find a pants
      So no anon numbuh 5 and numbuh 1 were the coolest characters in the show even if it was released today

      The main KND female characters were clearly afterthoughts, neither 3 or 5 were white but all the males were white and 3 was just regressed to a yellow fever fetish chink.

      KND is hardly progressive it was still racist and sexist if anything. Look at how they treated 5 despite her popularity.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        The males (2, 4) represent tropes too. Numbuh 3 seems worse, but she's not so different. That's just an asian stereotype whereas other members are based on different stereotypes.I'd still say the show was fairly progressive. Like how often do you get an MC with a overweight love interest? And it wasn't even about fat acceptance given they made her very flawed.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          The only good thing about Lizzie was her undercover agent villain twist reveal. Not that original of a twist but the twist has potential for an otherwise weak character.

          Not sure while 1 was saddled with a girlfriend since they're supposed to be immature kids, let alone such a terrible girlfriend at that. I'm one of those 1/5 shipgays so I'm bitter.

          4 was definitely a racial stereotype, a lot of characters were but KND was kinda nice about it.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >4 was definitely a racial stereotype,
            Australian is not a race, anon.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Neither is Chinese, but I'd still get called a racist of I call them chinks.

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what was the lore of the GKND?

    They're fricked and want to destroy planets?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You know how the KND hates adult tyranny and evil adult supervillains?
      The GKND takes that to its logical extreme by hating ALL adults, good and bad, because they think adulthood is a virus, so they destroy any planet that has too many people over the age of 13.

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The fricking noise filter ruins it

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    ?si=9TWl8DnrWjdyPd2Q&t=3

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Forget them being black or female, no one can replicate a genuinely cool character at all anymore. If they occur it's as one off side characters. And those side characters are only genuinely cool because nobody tried to flesh them out. Which would inevitably ruin them. You know how hard it is to find a cool chill pragmatic friend in general? Add "capable creative/artist/writer" to that. Everyone is an unstable neurotic depressed sensitive sad sack now.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very true, I haven't seen an artist that is actually laid back other than CrashBox recently and that guy barely gets any screen time.

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    did you just create this thread because you wanted to wack it to brown cfunny?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      TELL ME WHY!!!???

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        is that a yes?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        ain't nothin but a heartache

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can think of lesser thread topics.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        How's this project doing? are they planning another chapter this year or in March? The Doctor really needs her own chapter.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          they're working on some side stuff(ponyshit) but seems to keep working on it too

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Does this has porn or not? Never went too far intot he plot before losing interest.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's pretty lewd but no straight up porn, but the devs are making it lewder with each release

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Im intrigued. How is it lewd yet not porn?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              no full frontal nudity, no sex.
              for now it's all panties, skin-tight spats bordering on painted skin and bras and lewd dialogue

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >tease, the game
                I guess I'll just wait for Version 1.0, i.e. when the creator decide what they want to do with it

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                They already decided they want a slow burn.
                They want to build up the characters and romance instead of having every girl jump on Anon's dick 2 seconds after meeting him.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                not to mention 98.6 being pretty explicit from the get go

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's pretty lewd but no straight up porn, but the devs are making it lewder with each release

          no full frontal nudity, no sex.
          for now it's all panties, skin-tight spats bordering on painted skin and bras and lewd dialogue

          What the frick version of the game have you played? The game has both breasts and pussy showing in multiple scenes you can get and there's a bunch of scenes with direct sexual activities.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            What version did you play? Provide link

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Doubt.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        wish they had zipped all the fanart and skits when they deleted the server

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sandra's better tho. Also Virginia just cause she reminds me of Tsurugi from Blue Archive.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have there been any updates on this since the Discord died?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        wish they had zipped all the fanart and skits when they deleted the server

        huh?
        Source me on this and that, please.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          knd operation novel

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Numbuh 1 > 5 > 4 > 2 > 3

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Her episodes were annoying as frick. b***h took herself way too seriously

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Easy.
    They can't replicate it because they are preoccupied with stupid, meta shit like 'writing a character that's a good, authentic, and broadly appealing representation of women and minorities'
    Those kinds of questions are creatively entropic. They don't inspire good character writing.

  25. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just realized she wore crocs

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Crocs, no socks.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        as should be

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          You know it, Anon!
          You KNOW it.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      huh

  26. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    foxy love is better

  27. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Her feet are as long as mandy is tall

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        KND always had huge feet.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      like most cartoon crossovers where the participating shows have noticeably different styles they really should have chosen one show's style and applied that to everyone rather than using both styles unaltered(in this case I'd have gone with KND's style over GAOBAM's), also wasn't fond of how in order for the story to work they had to make everyone in the KND besides Numbuh 5 a moron

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Come on anon, those two artstyles are "squint and they look the same."

  28. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Now they just make a white character and give them black skin.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      What does that mean?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        There is balance to make when making a black character where people get mad if a character isn't acting black enough, but too much and they'll accuse of being an offensive stereotype. Where those line sits entire depends of who you ask. Anon is in the not black enough side of things. This also applies to real life as well.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You got that backwards, now black characters are always depicted as black and acting black as it means "Hating white people"

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        DIfference everyone called that one shit

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        USA is one of the countries built least on slavery, as it never had widespread serfdom. White Americans should stop acting moronic about it because that's where the blacks get those moronic notions.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thing is slavery in Burgertown was based in part in racial superiority and that sunk hard in their culture: crackers convincing themselves they were doing black people a favor by putting them in chains, and Black folk playing victim for everything wrong with them.

  29. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >make good character
    >make her black
    People often forget the first step

  30. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    She was part of a team and wasn't forced front & center and pushed at the audience.

  31. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    She would be hated by Cinemaphile today for just being black, and since Cinemaphile is racist and poisoned by rightwing culture war, they would never accept her especially if she became more front and center. At best, since they think in a white, settler/imperialist mentality, they want minority characters to either not exist at all; or take the role of a side/joke/stereotype character rather than ever show any real leadership, humanity, and independence. When the original star trek came out, it pissed off a lot of white people and anglos off because it showed off the humanity of other races beyond WASPS in america.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      An interesting parallel between genuine racists and gays like you is that both groups explicitly want to see the worst behavior in their enemies. Rather than accept there are people with understandable reservations about certain groups and taking a nuanced approach to why such sentiments exist, you do the same thing an actual racist does and jump to the worst case scenario, because you’re just as much of a smooth-brained moron who clearly gets off on seeing people get angry just like your strawman fantasies.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're a disingenous nerd that gets mad about cartoon creators, who are aiming at children, are actually appealing to the fact that most american kids don't see themselves as white anymore. That's the new generation. If you didn't want what's happening to happen, your people shouldn't have spent all that time destabilizing mexico and latinamerica with drugs and government coups. Your people should have properly integrated the black community, but instead of doing that, you just left the majority of them socially isolated, without property, in the dozens of gaza-like ghettos to multiply and increase exponentially in misery and agony. Know this - Suburban america isn't going to last forever with all of these economic crashes and the fact the ruling elite hates you almost as much as it hates the people living in the refugee camps and the ghettos.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >And the greatest post in this fricking thread goes to
        You're way Smart to post on co anon are you sure you want to stay here?

  32. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      adorable, my friends are all grown up

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      how does numbuh 5's jean shorts stay on?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        They don't for long, presumably.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Numbah 5

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >numbuh 3
      >no school uniform

  33. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Keeping the 2 by 5 tech like that is cool.

  34. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is still up? Neat.
    Tommy could've been done better.

  35. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cree Summer

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wish we got at least one ep where they weren't fighting

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        She's wearing MaryJanes here.
        Very suited for going without socks.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Could have sworn they teamed up with no backstabbing in one episode, but it's been ages

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          There was one episode where Abby went out of her way to get Cree a cure for her acne, and a couple of scenes where they pretended to get along to save face but I can't remember anything where the rivalry wasn't always there.

    • 5 months ago
      Brandon

      Childhood crush

  36. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Numbah 5 was good but I swear her episodes were the most boring shit ever. I feel like the episodes where she fights the chocolate british guy played every day with no end. Numbah 4 episodes were best

  37. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Make what could have potentially been one of the most racist stereotypes imaginable
    >Give an in-universe explanation which not only justifies his design, it makes him cool as frick

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      How is he racist? Hes just a dude in a helmet.

  38. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    @140693810
    I know you're taking the piss, but I'm still going to pop out your eye balls and feed them to you, you worthless wiener guzzling homosexual.

  39. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    @140693859~~*YOU*~~
    Shut up Black person

  40. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Exhibit #1488 in "Things modern cartoons just refuse to do now for some reason"

    Oh, you think I'm referring to Numbah 11' getup? No, having a genuinely endearing black, female antagonist. Sickos...

  41. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      t. The Reedster

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't realize how gigantic her hands were.

  42. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bad, annoying, worst character

  43. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    She had the best episodes by far. Agreed?

  44. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    By not trying too hard.

  45. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Numbah 5
    >Cyborg
    >Da Samurai
    Who else are great black characters?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like Valerie

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >green eyes
        hmm just like Stacey Dash

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Static shock

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry I have shit taste.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Puu is such a good little bedwench.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      leshawna

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        LA BOMBA

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        WOAH BOMBAAAA

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >made by toei
        I see now

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >da samurai
      >became a washed up bartender the second he lost to Jack
      They could have had a redemption story where he pursued the true samurai way and helped jack in season 5.
      What a waste.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Season 5 wasted its characters all around.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jodie from Daria

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 5 months ago
        Broken_Gizmo

        >
        Based.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >spoiler text
          On what?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The keeper of stories.

  46. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      She looks like a dork

  47. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    on the Fourth Flavor discussion it being some nonexistent in reality flavor would be lame, personally my theory is on it being either Pineapple or Banana, after all of the three known core flavors two of them are derived from beans(Chocolate and Vanilla) while the third(Strawberry) is a fruit, so it makes sense from a balance perspective that the Fourth Flavor would also be a fruit flavor, also Pineapple and Banana are two of the oldest ice cream flavors(Lemon would also fit for this reason) and are fairly obscure as standalone flavors(both are more common as toppings nowadays, Pineapple is usually seen as more of a Sorbet or Shaved Ice/Snow Cone flavor, and Banana is generally a secondary or tertiary flavor if it shows up at all) nowadays so would fit as a mystical lost flavor, also well based on what we see the Fourth Flavor is yellow and those are yellow fruits

  48. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because she's a lightskin.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you fricking blind?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Possibly. Or maybe he likes his girls vantablack.

  49. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Her and Numbuh 1 hard carried the show.

  50. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How were they able to do it?
    By not making her race even remotely important to her character.
    It is literally never brought up.
    She also doesn't fall into the trap of then just being "white with a coat of paint."
    She's just another member of the KND, who just happens to be black.

  51. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Take sassy black woman
    >Make her a child
    People like the sassy black woman character.

  52. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    why the frick are you all so obsessed with representation? Can't a black character exist without being used for propaganda?
    I don't see people talk about Rolf as a "positive representation of eastern european characters" because we rightfully don't care about such petty shit.

  53. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    craig was able to do it

  54. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  55. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  56. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  57. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  58. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have never personally known any black women in my life.

  59. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like I'm one of the few people who were happy that she ended up with him instead of Nigel.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Naw I liked then together too. Though it did feel a bit more out of nowhere than Wally and Kuki

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I can see why people were surprised by them being endgame but there was some ship tease between Abigail and Hoagie too, although much more subtle and fewer in number than 3/4.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            ?si=I1gmCT8RFA63EHp8&t=264

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Naw I liked then together too. Though it did feel a bit more out of nowhere than Wally and Kuki

        Huh? Why the frick? 2 was fat and unpopular and he was all over 5's sister. Him rebounding with 5 made no sense and the pairing was another out of nowhere twist saved for the end of the series frick this cartoon tbqh

  60. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    KND was so good on so many levels. Best parodies I've ever seen too, always with a loving and kind-spirited touch and inique rwists.

  61. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if numbuhs 5 and 3 switched personalities/outfits?

  62. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    why is good character design dead?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Steven Universe and its consequences.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        More like Flapjack/Adventure Time, tumblr and their consequences

  63. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong pic, wrong Cree Summer character

    Cute voice, intelligent, resourceful, and perky, nubile prime breasts like watermelons. Has to earn her place in the story. Too bad the creators didn't care for her.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      She shoulda been Terry's Robin.

  64. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did any episode show what's under her shirt? Does she wear shorts?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Spats, actually.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Proof?

  65. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Splooge made some great art of her, but I can't find it anywhere

  66. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone else always see Number 5 as a kid version of Foxxy Love?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I could never separate the two, I just had fun imagining them as the same person

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes

  67. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    monke

  68. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  69. 5 months ago
    DM

    >Create the best representation for strong independent female characters and black minorities.
    >No one was able to replicate what you have done to this day.
    How were they able to do it?

    To be honest as a ____ guy, characters like Static, Maurice, Green Lantern, Sigint, Barret, Luke Cage, Storm are just a few of the characters that made me feel included in comics, cartoons and vidya. I don't need an entire show full of my people, but having more cultural diversity doesnt hurt fiction it always enhances it.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      By not making their "black struggle" the central cause of their personality and motivation in life.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it always enhances it
      >always
      hell no.
      but if done tactfully, like in KND it enhances it a LOT

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah obviously numbnuts, any character written bad is gonna be bad, but a diverse cast has nothing to do with lowing the bar.
        Every and i mean EVERY show you've watch has a diverse cast. And I dont only mean race, but also; intelligence, morality, origins and etc.
        I know diversity is a buzzword used by drooling children and subhumans to put all the colors in a crayon box, but I'm more focused on "what each of these crayons can do to enhance a drawing."

        I could careless if the character is XY or Z, just make em work in the story.

  70. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's almost as if shes a token black character of that era. Foxxy Love is the only other one I can think of off hand but Foxxy Love and her had exactly the same personality and vocal inflection but adjusted for different audiences.
    I'm sure if you look at any media from 1999-2009 you'd find tons of characters like her.

  71. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  72. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    ooga booga

  73. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Some homosexual YouTuber if knd aired today
      >Operation slumber party : numbuh 4 and trans struggle,3hours video essay part 1

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        all the while ignoring Marzipan

  74. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cree liked Hank back? Actually it's kinda cute

    Why don't teen girl/boy ships ever happen it's history repeating itself with Wendy and Dipper. A simple time skip would make it canon.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      probably because if your love life peaks at 12 you're a stupid sad frick

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