>creates a cartoon all about villains and being villainous
>hypes up just how evil and dastardly the said villains are
>the villains in question end up either being not that bad or flat out not evil at all, and the heroes are just dicks for some reason
why
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Because the writers realized that straight villains can't carry a show at all. Silly shorts, maybe, but not something with actual continuity.
that sounds like coward talk
The writers were cowards first.
yeah i know, just saying its coward talk period
Im sorry, did them making Black Hat the “SUPER COOL VILLIAN WHO BEATS ALL THE OTHER CN VILLANS WHILE ALSO SUPPORTING MOST OF THEIR SHIT” not give you shitty fanfiction vibes?
It was cute as a MST3K-style parody, but nobody with half a brain would have taken that black-hatted braggart seriously.
Black Hat bodies your favorite character with zero effort
Carried Attack on Titan fine
Just Black Hat was overhyped and I think they realized it so they turned him into Mr Burns
They already realized this about halfway through the orientation episodes when they made Flug the host instead.
Did they fix him being a Mary Sue?
no hes still really boring as hell, hes barely even in any episode for this reason
It'd have worked better if he was all talk and no substance. Anything other than wanking off their bland, generic character that just looks like Professor Layton with the Venom symbiote.
Or just keep the CN references no deeper than homages like the Mordecai bird he laser-eyed in a short, don't bring continuity into it
If you absolutely have to go deeper, break the fourth wall like CN bumpers once did and show them as actors
It doesn't help that his little base looks like it's meant to be in Endsville but apparently isn't for some reason.
Not true. The villains vary with some being chill and others just being buttholes like the mask one. They've mostly been shown in the extra stuff as there has only been a few episodes.
The heroes are also varied from the ones shown
>Sunblast starts as a jerkass bully but becomes a better person during the penumbra side arc and wants to help once he actually hears her out
>Not Rocky is sort of a fame prick
>Demolition dude was just doing his job
>Goldheart is implied to be alright at least from the newspaper stuff and him not putting up with some questionable shit that'd put normies at risk
>Heed was part of the villain academy
>PEACE and Podemos Bailar are shifty ends justify the means good based on Heed's documents and the CYOA book
Black Hat is the force of nature character. Flug is the protagonist. Though it was said BH will be getting focus episodes so we'll see more of what they ultimately do with him once the "plot" starts in the next part. They did set up some stuff in the extra books like with the trickster goddess leaving hidden messages and other stuff like Flug's commentary about there possibly being something out there to frick with him (or at least his avatar)
Simple, actual villain protagonists just aren’t marketable
Nah, villain protags are definitely marketable, the question is whether or not they can be done well.
Least we got a psycho red head out of it.
Not quite, the shadow lady and the ghost kids are fine but keep in mind BlackHat org only helps them because to get Faustian deal out of them. The villain of the week might not be that bad but the main characters are.
Cute bear.
More of the bear
I'm sympathetic to the frustration of creating "ALL POWERFUL EVIL OVER LORD" but as someone who has villain characters too, it is difficult to write them as truly evil because you like them too much. You don't want to see them do actual crimes and expect people to understand why they should be rooting for them to win. Not only you can't show them doing horrible things, because of network censors, but if our protagonists are always winning, then there is no conflict or growth.
There are good ways to make content about evil characters, and you have to allow them to loose so they can have something to grow into. OR they're only evil in the context of the world they live in. Like if Smerfs was framed so that you support Gargamel, he is the protagonist and the Smerfs are the antagonists. He's only evil from the Smerf's perspective, but you could creativly write it so that Gargamel is dealing with a pest problem.
These are mostly outcast stories, framed as 'evil lords' or "bad guys". Tim Burton made all of his films about the villains, and notice how little personality Batman has because of that.
i have villain characters myself and love villain characters just cause theyre dumbasses that like to cause chaos and get their asses kicked by the heroes
just the chase and persistence of them is great
uncle grandpa kicks black hats ass and does it in the most annoying and looney tunes-ish way possible
>Uncle Grandpa
already lost to him kek
losses dont mean anything when youre an unserious gag character
Did villanos ever end up actually being, like, a cartoon? I think I saw two episodes come out and just stopped hearing about it.
I did really like the episodes and shorts though.
Has like a dozen shorts on youtube
a 10 episode season with another on the way
and some spin off comics and books.
Its been out for awhile with the dub having recently come out on Max. It's only a few episodes / first chunk of the first season but there have been hints about the next part coming from the american announcement video containing a binary code reading podemos bailar. There's also more comics and books coming soon along with them doing lots of merch which is doing well.
>Demencia was in the middle of cannibalizing random civilians and causing massive damage in the regular episodes and pulls a bunch of bullshit in the orientation stuff
>Flug tortures people and had nonchalantly tried to shoot Buff Hot in the heart with a laser pistol. Also nabbed what looked like a baby "hero" (squid) to be eaten in the crossover
>Black Hat's shenanigans in general
They're pretty bad, unless you are referring to the other villains and even they have crazies among them like Chimera's "mom" and Bonnivet. They also imply serial killers and Black Hat murdering a kid in the haunted house paintings
I just liked the Blackhot and Miss Heed episodes because they were interesting. The former was funny as frick with how over the top the muscly people were and the latter was engaging with a genuinely fricked up antagonist and themes. Also, Miss Heed is hot and evil to the core with her backstory being an interesting way to tie into the show that Helluva Boss is inept at doing out of sheer narcissism.
If you go to war against another country you are evil to them, a hero to yours, but just a person in the end. Hope this simple thought helps your simple mind, also, for the series and anything else done by others: because they wanted to.
im glad the show called villainous that focuses heavily on villains being villains has to use boring philosophy to justify its villains not objective being villains to heroes