>curing deafness is bad
>being deaf isn’t a handicap!
>any sort of cure for deafness is actually terrible, don’t do it! Just learn ASL and live in silence!
Is this movie deaf propaganda?
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Deaf people are more bitter and jilted than black people
anti social loners don’t understand how important fluid conversation is for emotional bonds and health
there’s a reason hearing loss is correlated with depression and suicide
>hearing loss is correlated with depression and suicide
also dementia
Interesting. My grandma developed dementia and it followed her hearing loss. The more hearing she lost the worse her dementia got. I never thought that they could be connected.
This movie is about recovery and acceptance in general
>acceptance
>guy whose whole life and relationships revolved around music decides to make a huge sacrifice to try and salvage any sort of hearing he can
>deaf leader basically calls him a bigot for daring to think being deaf is bad and kicks him out to the street
there's a significant section of the deaf community that thinks this way
It seems like a weird cult. Imagine if people with bad vision refused glasses or contacts or lasik because it’s their culture. A bunch of morons bumping into walls and needing lots of assistance from other people.
Deafness is different since it directly affects your means of expression and stripping away your ability to communicate on a meaningful level. Language is a distinct human trait. If we lose that, we're losing something that defines us. Having developed a language specifically for deafness bypasses that, and returns their identity, so I can see why they latch onto it
But the guy wasn’t born deaf, so he lost his ability to communicate the way he always had. Both in conversation and with his music.
People are strange and complex
Idk the deaf guy was a straight up dick to him at the end. Bleak fricking ending all around. No idea how people take it as him “accepting his lot,” he’s now completely alone, he hates the cochlear implants and because of the surgery he’s completely deaf without them, even worse than before the surgery.
Exactly. He lost a part of himself. He found solace within the deaf community, but his desires surpassed his needs, not realising he had already found an answer to the new world he was in. This is a common narrative device for character arcs and I always look at this movie as the perfect example of a mid point in a screenplay. The character is directly contradicting his own needs by chasing his old identity yet hasn't accepted he is already someone else. Chasing here works in multiple senses, since the movie can be seen as an allegory for drug addiction. He was addicted to "sound" so to speak, and wanted another hit, without knowing it would never be the same
>deaf people wanting to stay deaf even if there was a cure is okay, it’s okay to make life harder for everyone else out of a schizo need to have “deaf culture” and because muh communication
>a guy whose entire life revolved around sound is wrong for trying to salvage whatever he can in terms of hearing
as I said, it’s bleak and fricked up. It’s like he’s punished for it, but what the frick was he gonna do? Live in the weirdo deaf people commune forever? It’s not like he had any skills he could use without hearing.
Hearing words doesn't undo learning sign language lol
Then I guess you just don't really understand the argument and probably shouldn't comment on shit you have no idea about
No he's right
I don't know how much insurance companies are paying you to shill cochlear implants but you're both wrong
>insurance companies
have you even watched the movie, the doc says insurance doesn’t cover it
That stuff seemed like fear mongering, it seems like it does sort of sound like that but your brain adapts to it over time
People in the deaf community agree with the notion that treating deafness as a disability and treating it with cochlear implants is a form of cultural genocide. I kind of agree with them. Have you seen people use ASL? it's cool as frick
Thats moronic. The moronic shit about white genocide is actually less moronic than that.
thank you I almost missed my mandatory weekly listening of this track
Yes, some deaf people see it as a culture, and that curing deafness is genocide.
those people are morons
I'm partially deaf in one ear and that alone is horrible. People absolutely hate when you ask them to repeat themselves. I can't imagine the bullshit the deaf must put up with. I'd be jaded too.
That's why they stick with their own
I really don't blame them. People are very impatient and not very accommodating on average.
So I'm assuming you don't take pride in your deaf ear and don't shun people who offer ways to fix that "horrible" experience.
To be fair I'd rather be deaf than have that awful distorted noise and the weird robot plugs shown in the movie for the rest of my life.
i miss when disabled people overcame their obstacles to accomplish their dreams instead of b***hing at the world that they have to try.
the bums will always lose.
Was he supposed to look like Teddy here?
not intentionally but yes Phil does have similar dress style, similar weight, glasses, etc..
If you're deaf and have the ability to not be deaf and refuse that, I have zero sympathy about your life as a deaf person. Just don't give a shit at all. I took ASL I'm high school and this was the first thing we learned about. Not anything to do with the language. We learned about how exclusionary the deaf culture was. It made me quit the class and just take something else for the credit because of how fricking stupid ASL is entirely.
Like sure, they made an entire language. And it's apparently great when someone who can hear learns the language. Like you give a shit and are trying to be inclusive or something. But for someone reason, it's a betrayal to cure your deficiency and become whole, even if you know the language. Which means it's not about whether you can hear or not, it's personal instead. Like you can't hack it as a greased up deaf guy, even though you also wish they wouldn't invent jokes like the greased up deaf guy. You're too weak if you can't handle being born deficient and handicapped, lol, lmao even.
Deaf morons are like midgets or Black folk. If you could change it, and only one of these can you change, you normally would. But somehow deaf are even more moronic than any other subset of marginalized people and proud of it. Proud of their culture of staying deaf. Proud of not hearing. Proud of cosmetic ears and skin flaps that normally serve purpose to a functional human. Fricking idiots.
The only part of the movie that's unrealistic is how they rushed him through the ocular implant tuning. There are a tone of fine touches they do over time. The shit about not wanting to be around people with implants is real. They have a point, with people who were born deaf. They look at it the same way like someone with aspergers would.
I sincerely doubt you took ASL with how much of a juvenile, angry homosexual you are. It implies you have some empathy (high iq) that you're not demonstrating.
>They have point
>because they act like literal spergs
>juvenile, angry homosexual
not that anon but it's pretty juvenile to ostracize a deaf person just because they wanted to hear and it definitely comes from a place of spite and anger. and the dude is just capitulating to their demands to be left alone by dropping ASL.
Yes I wrote. I want deaf people to stay deaf so can continue to make fun of them when they are in the same room as me lol
The movie is about how you're alone in your experience. The deaf people act like they know how he feels and the people who aren't act the same. In the end there's no one that gets what he's going through and they can't be fricked to even try to.
They're weirdos because they've never heard their own names. Heading your own name and having people address you as that name affects you as a person.