>Currently tracking for a 35m opening weekend
>Production budget: 200m
How long does Pixar have left?
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>Currently tracking for a 35m opening weekend. >Production budget: 200m
>Currently tracking for a 35m opening weekend
>Production budget: 200m
How long does Pixar have left?
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Give them 4 or 5 more movies, if they make at least 3 more flops they're out
Given that Lightyear flopped if Elemental and Elio flop they'll be in major trouble.
Strange World was a massive gigantic flop and it feels like people don't give Disney any shit for it
Disney animation already poached their top talent
If they don't fix their situation, Disney will probably shut them down
All the time they want
>Falling for the profit doesn't matter meme
We'd be seeing multiple sequels to Ghostbusters 2016 if that were the case. Instead Sony completely retconned it.
morons keep saying this but they have no evidence for it.
>Parks are losing money
>Disney+ is losing money
>Starcruiser closed
>Every single Disney movie either underperforms (Little Mermaid) or is an outright catastrophic flop (Strange World, Elemental)
>Lays off thousands of employees
Disney is objectively doing pretty badly right now and "muh woke" boogeyman isn't relevant to that discussion.
Isn't Blackrock running out of cash as well? I heard that they are, and it makes sense that they would be; spending money on unprofitable projects is going to eventually come back to bite you.
Blackrock's lost several trillion USD in the past two years but they're literally too big to fail. If they go they take out the global economy.
Blackrock is straight up an arm of US government now
They can print out any losses for them
The real question is: Why are Disney and Pixar trying so hard to distance themselves from the elements that make New Age Hollywood Animation so fricking good? (stylization, limited movement, 2D overlays, etc.).
They're only gonna hurt themselves in the long run while their competition makes better and more soulful movies.
>limited movement
I hate this. It looks utterly shit.
Only good movies there are Pinocchio and PiB2
>Panic in Boots 2
>Good
Reddit take
tracking for a 35m opening weekend
budget: 200m
>How long does Pixar have left?
this is Cinemaphile. What the frick do we know about box office? Oh, and OP, I appreciate you not going with the stupidly hostile clickbait.
New creators are in and they want to put their own personal stamp on the projects.
But I'd say that one critical problem is terrible scripts.
Does disney do that?
Pixarshill is upset.
Who the frick is upset? Just saying the you gays know nothing about the industry. Nothing about this movie says it's going to flop. Pixar has made strange ideas work in the past and there's no reason to think we can't do it again.
>we
Pixar shill.
Mitchells vs the machines was shit and putting on same level as SV, Puss 2 or even Bad Guys is criminal.
Other studios work on a limited budget, so they make the animation visually distinct and creative, whereas Pixar has a bottomless hole of money, so they focus on making things look extremely realistic.
We're at a point where realistic 3D no longer wows anymore because of diminishing returns, but something stylized will please even if it's not the most technologically advanced thing.
It's already over. Expect them to go the way of the Jason after the Part 8 fiasco: >Pixar will sell their character rights to other, more profitable companies..
>Only for them to absolutely tear them apart like they did with Jason goes to Hell and Jason X.
>However they will be successful, causing Pixar to get more strict who/what is being copyrighted (Yeah we will give you Woody...but you can't use Buzz Lightyear or mention anything in Toy story).
>This will cause a decade long copyright battle
>By then Pixar will be forgotten and worthless to neo-Zoomers who haven't seen a Pixar movie at all
Sorry lads. This is the bleak path they chose.
will sell their character rights to other, more profitable companies
no way disney would give up their properties
This.
Disney won't even give the Muppets back to the Henson company after repeated flops. Only true success was the 2011 film.
Yeah, even if they don't ever make anything Toy Story again, they still enjoy the profits from merch sale.
In that case, it's even worse as Pixar will be nothing more than a corpse that Disney sells the organs of.
>Jason after the Part 8 fiasco
?? That was one of the best Ft13 movies?
Part 8 was the lowest grossing movie as it was clearly running out of stream. It took a crossover with Freddy to revive the franchise only for a copyright war to destroy it anyways.
The other anons are probably right that Disney would never let Pixar be sold, but Pixar is desperate for its "Freddy vs. Jason" revival.
Maybe it's time to start merging movies. We're ready for a kingdom hearts series.
>Maybe it's time to start merging movies.
That's the plan with Transformers
At worst I think they would become a D+ content producer or just be absorbed into their main animation studio.
>toy story 5
>frozen 3
>inside out 2
>zootopia 2
The future is looking so bright.
And don't forget The Lion King prequel movie
Wait what
>Inside Out 2 can't even get Bill Hader back
Watch the budget be 200m regardless
>Inside Out 2 can't even get Bill Hader back
WHAT?
Why?
Money. They're offering 100k no bonuses for the sequel but he'd probably make more than that by directing shit. He actually hasn't acted in much else since Barry outside of cameos.
Wait, Inside out 2 will probably cost 200 Million dollars and they can't use some of that money to get the voice of one of the main characters? That sucks, Fear is my favorite Inside Out character, I love when he had a shade of disgust when monitoring Riley's dreams.
Speaking of disgust, her actress won't be in it either for the same reason.
Didn't something similar happen to Jordan Peele, who started directing movies after rejecting a role in the Emoji movie?
Lewis Black better stay as Anger
I haven't seen Frozen 2 but doesn't Elsa die in it? So Frozen 3 would be about Anna.
Kids don't like Anna.
Never seen the sequel but I think she's alive
>doesn't Elsa die in it?
No, I think it was a fake out or whatever you call it, she doesn’t actually die, she’s brought back at the end
The original plan for Frozen 2 was to kill off Elsa, but Disney execs were fricking furious because Elsa is a guaranteed cash cow, they wouldn’t even let the documentary team into the room on that day to film the talks
Why and how the frick did the writers even think they'd be able to get away with that?
They forgot they were working for profit obsessed corporate ghouls.
Even from an artistic standpoint it sounds moronic
Have a source?
Not to defend executives but it's really surprising the writers even remotely thought they could get away with that. Obviously they shut that down.
That would've been a dumb idea. I'm glad they shot it down
>I haven't seen Frozen 2 but doesn't Elsa die in it? So Frozen 3 would be about Anna.
Elsa is CLEARLY NOT dead or did you not see the clips of Elsa unfreezing?
>Kids don't like Anna.
Blame the character designers for making her look like Raggedy-Ann with Shrek's fashion sense instead of a cute-looking Scandinavian princess with blonde hair and pink outfits.
Kids don't want ugly princesses.
Why have studios allowed movies’ budgets to balloon out of control?
There is literally reason why this movie should have a budget well over 100 million
Something about water effects and particles that literally none of the target audience will give a shit about.
We're hitting the point of diminishing returns with CG animation.
I thought Spirit had really good water animation.
It supposedly has really good animation quality, but I don't know or care. Pixar, DreamWorks and Illumination all look the same to me.
no star talent voices could be a good start
I don't recognize a single actor in Elemental tbf
Don't worry. Everyone is to busy shitting on Flash to care that this is the biggest flop of the year.
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They will make their next movie anime style to get the weebs and actually good looking characters, it's the future I saw
I think a safe route for Pixar after this would be to take some book and adapt it into a movie, and also try some inventive visuals like DreamWorks is doing.
this movie was based off a book.
i thought the book people have been posting here was a novelization
>I think a safe route for Pixar after this would be to take some book and adapt it into a movie
Agreed
Maybe restore their prestige status by getting a big name director like James Gunn or Greta Gerwig to do a movie for them
Was this sarcastic?
No?
Outside talent can help. Joss Whedon worked on Toy Story 1 and Brad Bird was an outsider
but people hate whedon now
I know, but that was a different era.
My point was that the current Pixar staff is shit and incestuous, and you clearly need some outsider voices.
Agreed; I think they also should let their formula rest and try something different.
Wonder if they'll try to shit out Incredibles 3 without Brad Bird
Whoever is in charge of character design over at pixar needs to be euthanized
All the subsidiaries are going to be absorbed eventually.