SOME of it. Then prog came along, which used scales, timing signatures, and modes from white classical music as applied to rock, metal, and everything else. The punk came along, and basically brought a free-style form of music. Then thrash came along, and really merged prog and punk into its own unique creation. Then electronica came along, and there was absolutely no room for blues-based chords or anything within it.
Ike "shut up Tina or I'll smack you again" Turner created the first blues-based rock song with "Rocket 88," but that detail gets buried by the fact that he was an abuser.
>white powder
These fricking revisionists know we can DNA-test the dead, don't they?
musical biopics are the epitome of boomer cultural masturbation. I dont give a frick about elvis, freddy, ray charles, johnny cash, what they did in their daily lives. I could not give a single solitary frick. they make good music? Great! But they are not interesting people with interesting lives, no matter how much you tell me otherwise.
You are fricking stupid.
We learn from the past.
Elvis movie was very educational to me because it showed how fricked you can get as a musician by having the wrong manager.
Elvis manager fricked him up.
these movies are life lessons you idiot
Did anything happen in that movie? I know first he was young then he became a musician and that's about it, Why did they make a biopic of a musician who had such a relatively mundane life?
They would be great if they embrace all what made them stars of their times.
Meaning this better include Elvis being degenerate fat shit, and have a 10 minute death scene on the loo, if not, well that's just not kino.
Or show Freddy getting ram ranched
Haven't seen it but had to stop watching The Great Gatsby when it got to the first house party. I know what to expect but I'm still allowed to angry about it tbh.
she probably has a jet washer bidet so that after shitting she can get rid of every single trace of shit then when she does a workout all the sweat drips into her butthole so when you spread her cheeks and dive in with your face and start punching your tongue against her butthole all you can taste is her sweat.
nobody invented any style of music. The evolution of music is like a conversation. It's virtually impossible to make music that isn't derived in some sense from something else
Based and accurate. This describes basically all culture as well, which is why the whole """cultural appropriation""" argument is ridiculous.
Anyway, I heard the movie had the same problem as other Baz Luhrman flicks, which is that all the anachronistic Baz Luhrman shit was only at the beginning, and after that it became generic and boring. Also that it didn't do enough with fat Elvis, his drug addiction, etc.
>Didn't vikings have dreadlocks before they ever met any african or were the vikings actually vikangz?
The former is correct, although Hollywood claims the latter.
>"I used to listen to Homer and Jethro (https://countrymusichalloffame.org/artist/homer-and-jethro/), and they would rap most of the time, only they didn't call it rap then. They used to call it soul talkin'." -Blowfly, godfather of rap, saying actually a couple country whiteboys are the true inventors of rap.
No, he's right. After about the first hour and half way through the movie where Elvis is at Vegas does the stop with the political nonsense and focus on Elvis and starts to become kino
As in he had far more in common with blacks at the time than whites and was extremely open about that fact. That's the bigger part of the reason the christian right tried to cancel him. The subversive nature of his music was just an excuse.
While working with black musicians off of a heavily black influenced musical style. You're full of shit and you know it. Your indoctrination tactics don't work any more because your unbelievable fricking rampant stupidity is as glaring as the fricking sun.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Your indoctrination tactics don't work any more
LMAO
2 years ago
Anonymous
>ignores all the white musicians Elvis worked with and how the roots are scots-irish not african
Do you think Tejano music came from Mexicans? It came from Germans.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>scots irish
As an actual Scotsman this Scots-Irish shit dog fricking mutts invented to make themselves feel special is pathetic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the cultures blended over here. over there the english transplanted scots into ireland and irish into scotland, to create a dichotomy so as to divide and rule you morons. its as old as empire. over here pre-revolutionary scots-irish blended together and united to fight the english.
He put a horn through his nose and whooped and hollered around a firepit. It's all well documented in blues history but I suppose you have never studied it.
The movie just shows him finding comfort around black people and black music, while evil white people keep trying to take him down. Its somewhat accurate to what happened in real life, but they really exaggerated it, especially the scene after MLK got shot.
Irish folk music.....mostly played by black people with Africans drum patterns
But, of course, it's Irish! The slaves just magically forgot all the music from Africa traced and attributed by every historian of music to the origins of Blues and Jazz, the most tantamount identities of American music.
Yeah ~~*historical revisionists*~~ misattributed irish song structure, chords, instruments, and vocal styles to blacks for some reason I have no idea why they would
Saying 4/4 drum beat was invented by africans is the dumbest fricking shit I have ever seen they had the djembe not a snare or cymbal you fricking Black person worshipping moron the drum kit is a white invention frick off
Saying 4/4 drum beat was invented by africans is the dumbest fricking shit I have ever seen they had the djembe not a snare or cymbal you fricking Black person worshipping moron the drum kit is a white invention frick off
Yeah ~~*historical revisionists*~~ misattributed irish song structure, chords, instruments, and vocal styles to blacks for some reason I have no idea why they would
You can argue against a mountain of evidence all you want. Your /misc/ fanfiction is worthless. Do any study into music history instead of posting delusions.
Weird, since drums have no date of invention and all humans originate from Africa. The oldest drums found so far are from China, but no one would be dumb enough to make any claim like you just did.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Out Of Africa Theory has been debunked and was always ideological motivated by leftwing cucks
2 years ago
Anonymous
A miscategorized jaw bone of a monkey didn't debunk shit. No genetic link was found and only creationists and /misc/tards still cling to it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
which find are you talking about? there have been several finds that debunk Out Of Africa
2 years ago
Anonymous
If all humans came out of africa, then they would have the homosexual erectus / homosexual habilis DNA africans have in their genome. but they dont.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is not how it works.
1. This study has been criticized by other geneticists.
2. It's not homosexual erectus or homosexual habilis.
3. The date of admixture is post OoA.
4. Eurasian lineages all descended from African ones.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes the neomarxist cult in academia has been assaulting STEM for years we know they are interfering with research with their intimidation and manipulation tactics. Of course there are "critics" lol.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No. It's been criticized by the biggest names in the field.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure. Because sometimes the truth is racist, and thats bad.
2 years ago
Anonymous
which find are you talking about? there have been several finds that debunk Out Of Africa
Hello, which find are you talking about? There have been SEVERAL that debunk Out Of Africa, but you cling to it because you have a fetish.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Two oldest human skulls were found in Greece and Ukraine. The theory has been updated but it's not publicly advertized because americans would ape out and the US still holds too much power, sadly. Can't wait for your shit country to collapse honestly.
2 years ago
Anonymous
there's also Dragon Man in China fwiw
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's most likely a Denisovan.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Dragon Man in China
that's a really strange skull
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sorry, didn't mean to quote you on my previous reply, you're alright.
Any STEM researcher that goes against the cuck narratives is demonized and risks losing their career.
That's really a mutt problem, that was spread a bit to Europe, Japan, SK, etc.
You're so used to politicizing everything during the cold war that you can't stop to this day. Collective mental illness through and through.
2 years ago
Anonymous
europoors are mutts
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not really. European + european = european.
2 years ago
Anonymous
which euro country do you descend from?
2 years ago
Anonymous
From Paris, Italy.
As if you would know anything about m'y country if I told you, mutt.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I kneel
2 years ago
Anonymous
They weren't humans. You don't understand the theory.
2 years ago
Anonymous
there's also Dragon Man in China fwiw
I'm sure I understand a great deal more than you fat mutt. We study actual sciences here in Europe, not about how gender is really a human construct.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You don't. Pretty much no one questions OoA anymore because the evidence is simply too strong.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Out Of Africa is a social construct
2 years ago
Anonymous
>In July 2019, anthropologists reported the discovery of 210,000 year old remains of a H. sapiens and 170,000 year old remains of a H. neanderthalensis in Apidima Cave in southern Greece, more than 150,000 years older than previous H. sapiens finds in Europe. >Early modern humans expanded to Western Eurasia and Central, Western and Southern Africa. >Early modern human expansion in sub-Saharan Africa appears to have contributed to the end of late Acheulean (Fauresmith) industries at about 130,000 years ago, although very late coexistence of archaic and early modern humans, until as late as 12,000 years ago, has been argued for West Africa in particular. >The ancestors of the modern Khoi-San expanded to Southern Africa before 150,000 years ago, possibly as early as before 260,000 years ago, so that by the beginning of the MIS 5 "megadrought", 130,000 years ago, there were two ancestral population clusters in Africa, bearers of mt-DNA haplogroup L0 in southern Africa, ancestral to the Khoi-San, and bearers of haplogroup L1-6 in central/eastern Africa, ancestral to everyone else. There was a significant back-migration of bearers of L0 towards eastern Africa between 120 and 75 kya. >Expansion to Central Africa by the ancestors of the Central African forager populations (African Pygmies) most likely took place before 130,000 years ago, and certainly before 60,000 years ago.
Most african groups moved where they live now after the primordial humans had moved to Europe. The origin of proto-humans was in the horn of Africa, and the first group to split and become actual humans is the ancestral group to europeans and asians. Blacks descend from a subsequent migration wave from the same region where proto humans appeared. So out of Africa does not mean what you think it means. There's a theory about sub saharans descending from a North african population as well, that mixed with archaic humans along the way.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You realize this doesn't contradict OoA? >So out of Africa does not mean what you think it means.
It means exactly what I think it means.
>The origin of proto-humans was in the horn of Africa
This is unknown and I doubt we will ever know where homosexual sapiens originated. Modern distribution of Y- and mtDNA is the result of much later migrations.
I don't know why you posted about the Apidima Cave if the oldest remains of homosexual sapiens are still from Africa. And in the abstract they write this: >Our findings support multiple dispersals of early modern humans out of Africa, and highlight the complex demographic processes that characterized Pleistocene human evolution and modern human presence in southeast Europe.
But we all know that. These early migrations apparently caused replacement of neanderthal Y-DNA and mtDNA, so the later neanderthals had uniparental markers closer to humans compared to their overall ancestry (closer to Denisovans and older neanderthal samples).
2 years ago
Anonymous
Any STEM researcher that goes against the cuck narratives is demonized and risks losing their career.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Out Of Africa Theory has been debunked and was always ideological motivated by leftwing cucks
>The first drums made from natural objects such as alligator skin appeared during 5500 BC. They first came about in Neolithic cultures originating from China but later spread to all of Asia. This period also saw the creation of Bronze Dong Son Drums in Vietnam during 3000 BC. Sri Lanka and African people later discovered drums between 1000 and 500 BC, which they used to communicate. The culture of drums would then spread to Rome and Greece between 200 and 150 BC. Drumming spread to Europe during 1200 AD via Mediterranean trading routes. African drums later arrived in America through the slave trade in 1500 AD.
2 years ago
Anonymous
kek this is horseshit we know from literature alone that there were drums in europe before 150 bc frick off kek
2 years ago
Anonymous
It says 200 to 150 BC and dated further back to Africa and Asia.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And we know there were drums in europe further back than that just from cave paintings and stone carvings, schlomo
2 years ago
Anonymous
Show them and why the oldest drums aren't from Asia and Africa. You never post any evidence and just make dumb claims.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Use of drums across the world started to spread across Asia, reaching Japan, India, Middle East, Africa and southern Europe by 2nd century BC (most notably African drums that were introduced into ancient Greece and Rome). While use of drums continued to be regular occurrence in Africa, Middle East and Asia, drums never found much success in popular music in Europe between fall of Rome and Renaissance. Return to popularity came only after crusades, when European armies copied the military uses of drums from their enemies, and introduced drums to general European population after return from wars. After that moment, drums became widespread across Europe, with uses both in folklore music and classical orchestras where drum played central rhythm role. Between crusades and the 20th century, drums evolved into hundreds of types and shapes, being used in countless occasions and musical
you have a sexual fetish for this stuff
2 years ago
Anonymous
I visited a Museum about greek culture in Berlin and they had an entire isle dedicated to music. Greeks hard drums before they even started to btfo persians and anatolians.
You're welcome. Also, prove that drums or even musical instruments existed before White Europeans conquered Sub-Saharan Africa. Should be easy, right? Hell, show us sheet music from a classical African song.
Irish folk music.....mostly played by black people with Africans drum patterns
But, of course, it's Irish! The slaves just magically forgot all the music from Africa traced and attributed by every historian of music to the origins of Blues and Jazz, the most tantamount identities of American music.
Thank you Irish people!
Yeah ~~*historical revisionists*~~ misattributed irish song structure, chords, instruments, and vocal styles to blacks for some reason I have no idea why they would
>Irish music >black music
Literally the same thing.
>Blacks invented shitty blues that only pretentious liberal queers like (and they don't REALLY like it) >Whites stroll in and invent rock, completely BTFOing Tyrone and making him seethe
There's a random gypsy from Balkans that can instantly reproduce classical music compositions after hearing them for the first time as well.
Miracles happen.
Hendrix is probably the most overrated musician of all time after Cobain. He sucked compared to literally any modern profession guitarist. Hell, Britney Spears' guitar player is better than Hendrix by a country mile in both technical skill and expressiveness. Anyone who says Hendrix was not just good but also the best guitarist ever is moronic.
I personally couldn't care less.
My cousin whom I used to respect told me that and I believed him as I never cared.
All of you could be nice people but hardcore racists and therefore be biased. I made a lot of friends on Cinemaphile who are like that, their racism makes their brain stop and reject anything black.
You could be right. I will never know.
Hendrix seems to have been left handed and self-thought and his stuff sounds really good. If others need a lifetime of practice to reach his level that speaks something, no?
Hendrix is pretty good, self taught as well. However, he was only famous because of his use of whammy pedals to make a psychedelic sound and his fame was only solidified because he died of a drug over dose at a young age. Otherwise the man himself was pretty much a fricking moron touted as a guru of rock.
Hahahahaha, I can't believe Elvis died taking a shit. Just the thought that he was was crumpled over, ass up in the air, with the toilet bowl full of crap and his butthole unwiped is crazy. Imagine the smell when the person found him. How awkward! Can't believe Baz Lurhman included it in the film.
White people invented all the musical instruments, recording equipment, microphones, radios, records players, jukeboxes built all the concert halls, radio/television stations etc. etc. etc.
>Use of drums across the world started to spread across Asia, reaching Japan, India, Middle East, Africa and southern Europe by 2nd century BC (most notably African drums that were introduced into ancient Greece and Rome). While use of drums continued to be regular occurrence in Africa, Middle East and Asia, drums never found much success in popular music in Europe between fall of Rome and Renaissance. Return to popularity came only after crusades, when European armies copied the military uses of drums from their enemies, and introduced drums to general European population after return from wars. After that moment, drums became widespread across Europe, with uses both in folklore music and classical orchestras where drum played central rhythm role. Between crusades and the 20th century, drums evolved into hundreds of types and shapes, being used in countless occasions and musical
Oh sorry anon. I meant to say that an all powerful man in the sky moulded us from dirt after he willed the universe into existence after seven days. Better?
I am very curious to know how cro-magnons in Europe manage to bypass the act of hitting an object with a bone or whatever else in a rhythmic fashion throughout their entire history until the black man showed us how to do it
If you want to claim white people had drums longer than anyone else, you have to give actual evidence of this when there's evidence otherwise. Also drums are different from hitting rocks together.
>If you want to claim
I'm not claiming anything, this is my first post in the thread. There are multiple people posting in this thread, in case you didn't know
Longer than black africans, not everyone, also using artifacts found in the eurasian steppe and claiming it for just asian people is dishonest as frick
Black people also invented
electronic, dubstep, punk, guitars, country, j-pop, j-rock, choir, gagaku, any music involving a drum, any music involving a string instrument, folk, techno, vaporwave, lullabies, polka and of course alternative rock.
>modern music
*Amerimutt music, which is all modern because your country is like 50 years old
My country has its own music genres with no influence by nogs whatsoever.
HEY DID YOU KNOW ELVIS WAS INSPIRED BY BLACK MUSIC?
AND MOST OF EVILS' SONGS WERE RHYTHM AND BLUES SONGS FROM BLACK SINGERS?
AND DID YOU KNOW MEMPHIS HAD A LOT OF BLACK CULTURE?
AND DID YOU KNOW PEOPLE REALLY LIKED EVILS' SONGS BECAUSE THEY HAD THE BLACK CULTURE IN THEM?
AND DID YOU KNOW ELVIS REALLY LIKED DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR? AND BB KING?
Oh and Elvis got married and had a kid and he liked them too.
AND HEY ELVIS' PINK SUIT WAS A PART OF BLACK CULTURE TOO!
AND WHEN HE WAS SUPER DEPRESSED AND HAD TO GET BACK TO HIS ROOTS HE HUNG OUT WITH BLACK SINGERS!
AND HEY DID YOU KNOW GOSPEL MUSIC WAS BLACK?!
I really wish the film focused more on Elvis' personal life. Like I barely know anything about his wife or kid. Still it was pretty good.
damn I was hoping elvis would be soulful kino like romeo and juliet but if it's just garbage pandering to the woke Black person-loving current thing I don't want to see it.
Definitely not going to pay to see more pro-Black person propaganda.
for a Baz Luhrmann film this sure seemed the least Baz Luhrmanny. I would have preferred a heavier focus some romance rather than just a generic biography.
They played a big part in modern American music (and popular music globally) but far from exclusive. Music theory in jazz, rock and blues is still largely routed in European traditions, but definitely some elements from African and basketball music
Why the hell are people disputing that rock n roll had both white and african-american origins?
It literally came from blacks and whites living together in major Southern cities and adopting each others' styles.
How’ve the frick am I supposed to believe moronic half-apes who live In conditions worse than Europeans did 700 years ago can possibly invent or create anything worthwhile? Checkmate redditors women and homosexuals lmao
So I see this is just a Black person hate thread, but I wanna discuss the kino.
Anyway know more details about the Col Parker - Elvis situation. There’s no way that Parker was just a mustache twirling supervillain, right? There’s got to be more to the story
Goyim are literally blasted with the "Blacks secretly invented everything, including music!" propaganda since they started walking, its not surprising that you even find little 90 IQ goy's on Cinemaphile who unironically believe in it despite there being no evidence for it, in fact there is more evidence against it since Africans didn't actually have civilization or writing before contact with europe.
WE WUZ
SOME of it. Then prog came along, which used scales, timing signatures, and modes from white classical music as applied to rock, metal, and everything else. The punk came along, and basically brought a free-style form of music. Then thrash came along, and really merged prog and punk into its own unique creation. Then electronica came along, and there was absolutely no room for blues-based chords or anything within it.
Ike "shut up Tina or I'll smack you again" Turner created the first blues-based rock song with "Rocket 88," but that detail gets buried by the fact that he was an abuser.
>white powder
These fricking revisionists know we can DNA-test the dead, don't they?
modern amerifat music
Basically yes
musical biopics are the epitome of boomer cultural masturbation. I dont give a frick about elvis, freddy, ray charles, johnny cash, what they did in their daily lives. I could not give a single solitary frick. they make good music? Great! But they are not interesting people with interesting lives, no matter how much you tell me otherwise.
agreed
You are fricking stupid.
We learn from the past.
Elvis movie was very educational to me because it showed how fricked you can get as a musician by having the wrong manager.
Elvis manager fricked him up.
these movies are life lessons you idiot
life lessons for world-class superfamous rock musicians from the mid-20th century? What a moron
What are the odds that you were molested as a child?
It's ok if their lives were interesting. Johnny Cash was a great musician but his life wasn't interesting enough for a whole biopic.
>johnny cash
He was the worst, the worst movies.
>DUDE empty life somehow I got lucky with music and had a top Witherspoon wife
Did anything happen in that movie? I know first he was young then he became a musician and that's about it, Why did they make a biopic of a musician who had such a relatively mundane life?
frick off, amadeus is great
They would be great if they embrace all what made them stars of their times.
Meaning this better include Elvis being degenerate fat shit, and have a 10 minute death scene on the loo, if not, well that's just not kino.
Or show Freddy getting ram ranched
>Or show Freddy getting ram ranched
incredibly based phrasing
no, they invented america
when they started playing doja cat at the start of the movie i knew i made a huge mistake buying a ticket
>when they started playing doja cat at the start of the movie i knew i made a huge mistake buying a ticket
What the hell did you expect from Baz Lurhmann you idiot
Haven't seen it but had to stop watching The Great Gatsby when it got to the first house party. I know what to expect but I'm still allowed to angry about it tbh.
Yeah I've never seen the complete runtime of any of his movies
more like doja FAT
There is no way she can properly wipe her ass
she probably has a jet washer bidet so that after shitting she can get rid of every single trace of shit then when she does a workout all the sweat drips into her butthole so when you spread her cheeks and dive in with your face and start punching your tongue against her butthole all you can taste is her sweat.
I use my tongue
I still don’t know who this is really, for some reason I was excpecting some pasty younger white girl
she's a black chick who only fricks white guys
Good lord, are you serious? Fricking hell.
Imagine paying money to consoom propaganda by people who hate you and want you eliminated.
The director wanted to lure in the gen z
If Colonel Parker was such a horrible man, why did Priscilla deliver the eulogy at his funeral and has spoken of him in positive terms for decades?
>rock n roll is modern music
No
nobody invented any style of music. The evolution of music is like a conversation. It's virtually impossible to make music that isn't derived in some sense from something else
Based and accurate. This describes basically all culture as well, which is why the whole """cultural appropriation""" argument is ridiculous.
Anyway, I heard the movie had the same problem as other Baz Luhrman flicks, which is that all the anachronistic Baz Luhrman shit was only at the beginning, and after that it became generic and boring. Also that it didn't do enough with fat Elvis, his drug addiction, etc.
Needs a native american in the window going "hey that's my peanut butter!"
Didn't vikings have dreadlocks before they ever met any african or were the vikings actually vikangz?
>Didn't vikings have dreadlocks before they ever met any african or were the vikings actually vikangz?
The former is correct, although Hollywood claims the latter.
No.
>"I used to listen to Homer and Jethro (https://countrymusichalloffame.org/artist/homer-and-jethro/), and they would rap most of the time, only they didn't call it rap then. They used to call it soul talkin'." -Blowfly, godfather of rap, saying actually a couple country whiteboys are the true inventors of rap.
Anyone who listens to Jerry Reed would know it was country musicians who invented rap
please do the needful sir and link me the best example?
>Did black people really invent modern music?
yes they invented R&B and hip-hop.
frick is this woke shit too??
The whole movie is literally just "white people evil and boring boring, black people SOVL", and how Elvis was basically an honorary black man.
are you shitting me. you're shitting me
No, he's right. After about the first hour and half way through the movie where Elvis is at Vegas does the stop with the political nonsense and focus on Elvis and starts to become kino
fuuuuuck the obsessive fetishists gotta ruin everything. i was going to take 4 other people to see it with me to. frick that.
Never got the whole white people are evil vibe. Not sure what you are on about. Segregation happened, so they can't just gloss over it.
It all is now
Elvis being essentially an honorary black man has been common knowledge since his actual time. This isn't some modern invention.
"honorary black man" what does that mean? they stole elvis from whites? they can't just do that
>~~*they*~~ stole elvis from whites? ~~*they*~~ can't just do that
As in he had far more in common with blacks at the time than whites and was extremely open about that fact. That's the bigger part of the reason the christian right tried to cancel him. The subversive nature of his music was just an excuse.
His audiences were white young people and his acted in white cinema, seems like a reach to me
While working with black musicians off of a heavily black influenced musical style. You're full of shit and you know it. Your indoctrination tactics don't work any more because your unbelievable fricking rampant stupidity is as glaring as the fricking sun.
>Your indoctrination tactics don't work any more
LMAO
>ignores all the white musicians Elvis worked with and how the roots are scots-irish not african
Do you think Tejano music came from Mexicans? It came from Germans.
>scots irish
As an actual Scotsman this Scots-Irish shit dog fricking mutts invented to make themselves feel special is pathetic.
the cultures blended over here. over there the english transplanted scots into ireland and irish into scotland, to create a dichotomy so as to divide and rule you morons. its as old as empire. over here pre-revolutionary scots-irish blended together and united to fight the english.
You're so desperate to deceive the goyim.
>was extremely open about that fact
why, what did he say?
He put a horn through his nose and whooped and hollered around a firepit. It's all well documented in blues history but I suppose you have never studied it.
I think photographic evidence would exist.
The movie just shows him finding comfort around black people and black music, while evil white people keep trying to take him down. Its somewhat accurate to what happened in real life, but they really exaggerated it, especially the scene after MLK got shot.
god dammit. i wanted to go see it in theater but now i'm not going to pay for brainwashing bullshit
you are finally seeing the true history and you are calling it brainwashing. heh
you're delusional
Rock n Roll was an evolution of Irish folk music, saying any different is Black person worship.
Irish folk music.....mostly played by black people with Africans drum patterns
But, of course, it's Irish! The slaves just magically forgot all the music from Africa traced and attributed by every historian of music to the origins of Blues and Jazz, the most tantamount identities of American music.
Thank you Irish people!
Yeah ~~*historical revisionists*~~ misattributed irish song structure, chords, instruments, and vocal styles to blacks for some reason I have no idea why they would
its almost as if they have an agenda
Saying 4/4 drum beat was invented by africans is the dumbest fricking shit I have ever seen they had the djembe not a snare or cymbal you fricking Black person worshipping moron the drum kit is a white invention frick off
>African drum patterns
You can argue against a mountain of evidence all you want. Your /misc/ fanfiction is worthless. Do any study into music history instead of posting delusions.
Ah yes, let me crack open "Uncolonized Music History' by Dr. Ari Shekelstein to learn the truth about how Africans invented all percussion ever.
I'd advise you to read about Paul Oliver instead.
You have no evidence. Europeans had drums for thousands of yeaes before the first drum was invented in africa. Frick off.
I have all of music history studies as evidence.
https://www.britannica.com/art/blues-music
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_blues
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zkbh2v4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_rock_and_roll
written by ideologues and cucks ignoring the scots-irish song structure roots
Once again, /misc/ fanfiction with no evidence is worthless.
once again, blacks ripped off the song structures from whites, they didnt have that song structure indigenous to africa.
Is that an Oil Sheik?
>music history studies
What's the next musical biopic Hollywood's going to shit out, Cinemaphile?
Weird, since drums have no date of invention and all humans originate from Africa. The oldest drums found so far are from China, but no one would be dumb enough to make any claim like you just did.
Out Of Africa Theory has been debunked and was always ideological motivated by leftwing cucks
A miscategorized jaw bone of a monkey didn't debunk shit. No genetic link was found and only creationists and /misc/tards still cling to it.
which find are you talking about? there have been several finds that debunk Out Of Africa
If all humans came out of africa, then they would have the homosexual erectus / homosexual habilis DNA africans have in their genome. but they dont.
This is not how it works.
1. This study has been criticized by other geneticists.
2. It's not homosexual erectus or homosexual habilis.
3. The date of admixture is post OoA.
4. Eurasian lineages all descended from African ones.
Yes the neomarxist cult in academia has been assaulting STEM for years we know they are interfering with research with their intimidation and manipulation tactics. Of course there are "critics" lol.
No. It's been criticized by the biggest names in the field.
Sure. Because sometimes the truth is racist, and thats bad.
Hello, which find are you talking about? There have been SEVERAL that debunk Out Of Africa, but you cling to it because you have a fetish.
Two oldest human skulls were found in Greece and Ukraine. The theory has been updated but it's not publicly advertized because americans would ape out and the US still holds too much power, sadly. Can't wait for your shit country to collapse honestly.
there's also Dragon Man in China fwiw
It's most likely a Denisovan.
>Dragon Man in China
that's a really strange skull
Sorry, didn't mean to quote you on my previous reply, you're alright.
That's really a mutt problem, that was spread a bit to Europe, Japan, SK, etc.
You're so used to politicizing everything during the cold war that you can't stop to this day. Collective mental illness through and through.
europoors are mutts
Not really. European + european = european.
which euro country do you descend from?
From Paris, Italy.
As if you would know anything about m'y country if I told you, mutt.
I kneel
They weren't humans. You don't understand the theory.
I'm sure I understand a great deal more than you fat mutt. We study actual sciences here in Europe, not about how gender is really a human construct.
You don't. Pretty much no one questions OoA anymore because the evidence is simply too strong.
Out Of Africa is a social construct
>In July 2019, anthropologists reported the discovery of 210,000 year old remains of a H. sapiens and 170,000 year old remains of a H. neanderthalensis in Apidima Cave in southern Greece, more than 150,000 years older than previous H. sapiens finds in Europe.
>Early modern humans expanded to Western Eurasia and Central, Western and Southern Africa.
>Early modern human expansion in sub-Saharan Africa appears to have contributed to the end of late Acheulean (Fauresmith) industries at about 130,000 years ago, although very late coexistence of archaic and early modern humans, until as late as 12,000 years ago, has been argued for West Africa in particular.
>The ancestors of the modern Khoi-San expanded to Southern Africa before 150,000 years ago, possibly as early as before 260,000 years ago, so that by the beginning of the MIS 5 "megadrought", 130,000 years ago, there were two ancestral population clusters in Africa, bearers of mt-DNA haplogroup L0 in southern Africa, ancestral to the Khoi-San, and bearers of haplogroup L1-6 in central/eastern Africa, ancestral to everyone else. There was a significant back-migration of bearers of L0 towards eastern Africa between 120 and 75 kya.
>Expansion to Central Africa by the ancestors of the Central African forager populations (African Pygmies) most likely took place before 130,000 years ago, and certainly before 60,000 years ago.
Most african groups moved where they live now after the primordial humans had moved to Europe. The origin of proto-humans was in the horn of Africa, and the first group to split and become actual humans is the ancestral group to europeans and asians. Blacks descend from a subsequent migration wave from the same region where proto humans appeared. So out of Africa does not mean what you think it means. There's a theory about sub saharans descending from a North african population as well, that mixed with archaic humans along the way.
You realize this doesn't contradict OoA?
>So out of Africa does not mean what you think it means.
It means exactly what I think it means.
>The origin of proto-humans was in the horn of Africa
This is unknown and I doubt we will ever know where homosexual sapiens originated. Modern distribution of Y- and mtDNA is the result of much later migrations.
I don't know why you posted about the Apidima Cave if the oldest remains of homosexual sapiens are still from Africa. And in the abstract they write this:
>Our findings support multiple dispersals of early modern humans out of Africa, and highlight the complex demographic processes that characterized Pleistocene human evolution and modern human presence in southeast Europe.
But we all know that. These early migrations apparently caused replacement of neanderthal Y-DNA and mtDNA, so the later neanderthals had uniparental markers closer to humans compared to their overall ancestry (closer to Denisovans and older neanderthal samples).
Any STEM researcher that goes against the cuck narratives is demonized and risks losing their career.
Wait, so what's the current theory?
Out of Africa.
You got any proof? This is total bullshit as far as I can tell.
The entire archeological record of africa and europe??
>The first drums made from natural objects such as alligator skin appeared during 5500 BC. They first came about in Neolithic cultures originating from China but later spread to all of Asia. This period also saw the creation of Bronze Dong Son Drums in Vietnam during 3000 BC. Sri Lanka and African people later discovered drums between 1000 and 500 BC, which they used to communicate. The culture of drums would then spread to Rome and Greece between 200 and 150 BC. Drumming spread to Europe during 1200 AD via Mediterranean trading routes. African drums later arrived in America through the slave trade in 1500 AD.
kek this is horseshit we know from literature alone that there were drums in europe before 150 bc frick off kek
It says 200 to 150 BC and dated further back to Africa and Asia.
And we know there were drums in europe further back than that just from cave paintings and stone carvings, schlomo
Show them and why the oldest drums aren't from Asia and Africa. You never post any evidence and just make dumb claims.
you have a sexual fetish for this stuff
I visited a Museum about greek culture in Berlin and they had an entire isle dedicated to music. Greeks hard drums before they even started to btfo persians and anatolians.
You're welcome. Also, prove that drums or even musical instruments existed before White Europeans conquered Sub-Saharan Africa. Should be easy, right? Hell, show us sheet music from a classical African song.
lol /misc/tards literally acting like we wuz Black folk in this thread wtf
>Irish music
>black music
Literally the same thing.
>Blacks invented shitty blues that only pretentious liberal queers like (and they don't REALLY like it)
>Whites stroll in and invent rock, completely BTFOing Tyrone and making him seethe
The only thing Black folk invented is gang rape.
Best guitarist ever was a black guy.
There's a random gypsy from Balkans that can instantly reproduce classical music compositions after hearing them for the first time as well.
Miracles happen.
Damn didn't know malmsteen was black
Speaking objectively here, not subjectively dear troon.
Malmsteen (along with Vai and all those other whitebois) is a soulless husk of a musician who mistakes technical ability for actual musicianship.
kek okay, Black person
I'm actually white and appreciate a lot of white musicians as well as black ones. It's fact though that people like Malmsteen and Vai are soulless.
Clapton is better, stfu
Clapton was literally fricking blown off stage by Hendrix in his own territory. Clapton is salty about it to this day.
hendrix was overrated by cuck boomer audience simping for virtue signalling
Didn't exist in those days.
the 60s? you're moronic, the psyop was at a peak back then too.
Sabicas is a Black person?
what came first, your fetish or your ideology?
Hendrix is probably the most overrated musician of all time after Cobain. He sucked compared to literally any modern profession guitarist. Hell, Britney Spears' guitar player is better than Hendrix by a country mile in both technical skill and expressiveness. Anyone who says Hendrix was not just good but also the best guitarist ever is moronic.
I personally couldn't care less.
My cousin whom I used to respect told me that and I believed him as I never cared.
All of you could be nice people but hardcore racists and therefore be biased. I made a lot of friends on Cinemaphile who are like that, their racism makes their brain stop and reject anything black.
You could be right. I will never know.
Hendrix seems to have been left handed and self-thought and his stuff sounds really good. If others need a lifetime of practice to reach his level that speaks something, no?
level of making annoying noise? over hyped by boomer cucks on LSD
Hendrix is pretty good, self taught as well. However, he was only famous because of his use of whammy pedals to make a psychedelic sound and his fame was only solidified because he died of a drug over dose at a young age. Otherwise the man himself was pretty much a fricking moron touted as a guru of rock.
Hahahahaha, I can't believe Elvis died taking a shit. Just the thought that he was was crumpled over, ass up in the air, with the toilet bowl full of crap and his butthole unwiped is crazy. Imagine the smell when the person found him. How awkward! Can't believe Baz Lurhman included it in the film.
White people invented all the musical instruments, recording equipment, microphones, radios, records players, jukeboxes built all the concert halls, radio/television stations etc. etc. etc.
you are moronic.
No, a black man called Rutherford Jones invented the microphone.
Who gives a shit? Black folk did nothing with rock and roll while whites elevated it to actual art and evolved it in unprecedented ways.
The trailer for this is terrible. Imagine putting fricking DOJA CAT music on a movie about Elvis.
Elvis was a culture vulture.
Elvis Presley wasn't black, he was mulatto
ITT:Frick Black folk
he wasn't mulatto, nice try israelite
He was literally just a swarthy Anglo-Irish type like most Southerners. Probably some 1/16 injun heritage or some shit as well
Black people wouldn't have invented the blues if white people had not made them feel bad.
this line of argumentation where someone pretends that we wouldn't know what drums is without Africans is one of the funniest Cinemaphile larps
Say it with me /misc/
Black people invented Blues, Jazz, and Rock music.
punk too
>punk too
Was wholly propagated by israelites mate.
Richard Hell predates any other punk band, frick off.
nah. Death was around a year before.
Those years are purposefully incorrect.
Stooges and MC5 were around since the '60s
No they weren't. Frick off, bint
dumb bong
Lick my bottom, you chudney
Black people don't like Brits stop fighting their wars chewsday bongistan
Black people invented racism
Yeah.
>Use of drums across the world started to spread across Asia, reaching Japan, India, Middle East, Africa and southern Europe by 2nd century BC (most notably African drums that were introduced into ancient Greece and Rome). While use of drums continued to be regular occurrence in Africa, Middle East and Asia, drums never found much success in popular music in Europe between fall of Rome and Renaissance. Return to popularity came only after crusades, when European armies copied the military uses of drums from their enemies, and introduced drums to general European population after return from wars. After that moment, drums became widespread across Europe, with uses both in folklore music and classical orchestras where drum played central rhythm role. Between crusades and the 20th century, drums evolved into hundreds of types and shapes, being used in countless occasions and musical
Source?
yes.
Even modern dance/club music (House and Techno) was invented by blacks. I'm not even joking.
nope, Silver Apples did it first. and detroit techno was influenced by germans
whites this blacks that, we're all just meat sacks that coincidentally came about from atoms moving and bouncing around
>coincidentally came about from atoms moving and bouncing around
Oh sorry anon. I meant to say that an all powerful man in the sky moulded us from dirt after he willed the universe into existence after seven days. Better?
my meat sack grew up with a father meat sack and doesn't depend on the taxes of other meat sacks to survive
i can be racist no matter how you want me to frame it bud
>here's evidence from academia and archeologists showing the oldest origins of blues and drums
>nope hurp durp yt pipo first derp derp
Is this the power of /misc/ intellectualism?
I am very curious to know how cro-magnons in Europe manage to bypass the act of hitting an object with a bone or whatever else in a rhythmic fashion throughout their entire history until the black man showed us how to do it
If you want to claim white people had drums longer than anyone else, you have to give actual evidence of this when there's evidence otherwise. Also drums are different from hitting rocks together.
>If you want to claim
I'm not claiming anything, this is my first post in the thread. There are multiple people posting in this thread, in case you didn't know
Longer than black africans, not everyone, also using artifacts found in the eurasian steppe and claiming it for just asian people is dishonest as frick
China and Vietnam are the Eurasian Steppe? They had alligator skins in the steppe?
Weren't yamnaya buried with drums in their fricking burial sites that predate that shit?
No.
Proof?
First post your source. I've never heared about Yamnaya being buried with drums.
OoA is good and well. It's fully supported by DNA, so at this point you need extraordinary evidence to debunk it.
Cucks will reject any evidence that contradicts their fetish.
Black folk are violent and stupid
What a violent and stupid post you just made.
Words are not violence, no matter how many times idiots say otherwise.
Black people invented jazz, funk, soul, rock n' roll and heavy metal. White people only have trad and skiffle music.
they also came up with the blues
They also invented Classical music back in the 1600s
>heavy metal
Hahaha, what?
Black people also invented
electronic, dubstep, punk, guitars, country, j-pop, j-rock, choir, gagaku, any music involving a drum, any music involving a string instrument, folk, techno, vaporwave, lullabies, polka and of course alternative rock.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley_(album)
First album. Most songs are just covers of black songs.
>modern music
*Amerimutt music, which is all modern because your country is like 50 years old
My country has its own music genres with no influence by nogs whatsoever.
HEY DID YOU KNOW ELVIS WAS INSPIRED BY BLACK MUSIC?
AND MOST OF EVILS' SONGS WERE RHYTHM AND BLUES SONGS FROM BLACK SINGERS?
AND DID YOU KNOW MEMPHIS HAD A LOT OF BLACK CULTURE?
AND DID YOU KNOW PEOPLE REALLY LIKED EVILS' SONGS BECAUSE THEY HAD THE BLACK CULTURE IN THEM?
AND DID YOU KNOW ELVIS REALLY LIKED DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR? AND BB KING?
Oh and Elvis got married and had a kid and he liked them too.
AND HEY ELVIS' PINK SUIT WAS A PART OF BLACK CULTURE TOO!
AND WHEN HE WAS SUPER DEPRESSED AND HAD TO GET BACK TO HIS ROOTS HE HUNG OUT WITH BLACK SINGERS!
AND HEY DID YOU KNOW GOSPEL MUSIC WAS BLACK?!
I really wish the film focused more on Elvis' personal life. Like I barely know anything about his wife or kid. Still it was pretty good.
>I really wish the film focused more on Elvis' personal life
That would not be the best idea tbh
How young are we talking?
13-14 I think
Elvis was a class A degen, if the movie was about his personal life, it would be slander.
damn I was hoping elvis would be soulful kino like romeo and juliet but if it's just garbage pandering to the woke Black person-loving current thing I don't want to see it.
Definitely not going to pay to see more pro-Black person propaganda.
Beautiful white irish folk music 🙂
Black people invented the concept of dancing
No
for a Baz Luhrmann film this sure seemed the least Baz Luhrmanny. I would have preferred a heavier focus some romance rather than just a generic biography.
it was shit just watch the kurt russell john carpenter elvis movie instead.
wasn't she a racist polcel or was that someone else?
So it causes you no introspection at all that one of the biggest current artists fricked around on pol and made racist memes?
How come there are NO black people in guitar bands (since Slash) ?
There was that one guy in Suicidal Tendencies
TV On the Radio
Local H
Now, apologise.
Oh, and Will Smith's wife had a really bad goth metal band.
her stint as a chud makes her that much more relatable thoughever
This iphone poster just opened random threads and spammed them all with retareded posts.
Mods asleep again?
who's the next dead musician they're going to make a biopic of?
sinatra? kurt cobain (this one would be kino)?
>kurt cobain
can't believe this hasn't been done yet
how could Black folk invent guitar music when they didn't invent guitars?
Did subsaharan africans even have string instruments???
Black folk were given guitars and taught how to play them by watching and listening to white people.
That's some supreme cope.
They kind of did with that one where the lad from Funny Games played "not" Kurt.
Doja absolutely based bros
They played a big part in modern American music (and popular music globally) but far from exclusive. Music theory in jazz, rock and blues is still largely routed in European traditions, but definitely some elements from African and basketball music
Why the hell are people disputing that rock n roll had both white and african-american origins?
It literally came from blacks and whites living together in major Southern cities and adopting each others' styles.
>Did black people really invent modern music?
Oh its one of 'those' movies. I am glad I didn't bother.
How long do you guys think it'll be til i can torrent it? Want to see it but i'm dead broke atm
I'll buy you a ticket right now
"rockin 88" 1951, world's first rock and roll song
How’ve the frick am I supposed to believe moronic half-apes who live In conditions worse than Europeans did 700 years ago can possibly invent or create anything worthwhile? Checkmate redditors women and homosexuals lmao
So I see this is just a Black person hate thread, but I wanna discuss the kino.
Anyway know more details about the Col Parker - Elvis situation. There’s no way that Parker was just a mustache twirling supervillain, right? There’s got to be more to the story
He didn't have a mustache you wiener sucking idiot
it was so fricking bloated
literally almost passed the frick out until the elvis tv special scene happened
best baz film but that's not saying much
Goyim are literally blasted with the "Blacks secretly invented everything, including music!" propaganda since they started walking, its not surprising that you even find little 90 IQ goy's on Cinemaphile who unironically believe in it despite there being no evidence for it, in fact there is more evidence against it since Africans didn't actually have civilization or writing before contact with europe.