Dark City (1998) and The Thirteenth Floor (1999) are superb films exploring the theme of simulation theory. Yet were completely overshadowed by a similar but much inferior (imo) film on the same subject matter, The Matrix (1998).
What made Matrix so popular?
Cool gun fights.
action orientated, trinity, captured the zeitgeist of the 90s 'office space' fatigue and tptb wanted the esoteric subject matter to be known
Dark City fricking sucked.
Came here to post this. The "strangers" or whatever they were called were absolutely cringe.
Jencon
the matrix was in no way inferior to either of those films. you have shit taste israelite loving Black person homosexual
rule of cool means you dont have to be a pseud to enjoy it
Not only is it way cooler, Matrix has levels. You can just mindlessly enjoy it, or you can bite into the religious and philosophical stuff. It’s a true dual threat.
matrix used the set from dark city and stole the green color from 13th floor.
13nth floor invented digital green
wrong, al gore invented it when he invented the internet
Ghost in the Shell did it first
Dark city is a joke of a movie that straigh up says things aren't normal in the beginning, when a fricking alien cracks open and blue shit comes out.
existenz 1999
This, existenz is the superior virtual reality film.
This
wtf happen in 1999 every one making the same film.
They were trying to contact you to get you out of the simulation before the 2000s arrived.
we haven't stopped trying anon
They make the same film very often.
It's probably some general ideas going around or a theme at their occult meetings.
Now it's the multiverse and metaverse thing.
Meds
>t. gullible shabbos goy
Wtf happen in 2010-2022 every one making the same film
no there;s avengers and star wars and disney and pixar thats a lot of movie ttpes
disney
what movies are the same?
oldgay here, it was the zeitgeist. Fight Club goes in that pile of films about how reality wasn't real as well. Strange Days kind of kicked it off in 95 (but it was set in 99). Life had taken on a sense of pointlessness for a lot of folks in cubicles and the internet was advancing in an explosive way that i think is hard for people to imagine nowadays. Everquest had just come out that year as well, prior to that escapist simulation was found in text-based MUDs.
90's gay also here, was going to say something like this.
It's a case of parallel evolution. Matrix, Dark City and 13th Floor didn't copy one another. They were all in production and released at similar times which isn't enough time to change the idea of your movie to copy.
They were actually being inspired (or copying if you will) the same source media.
Neo-Noir films were back.
Cyberpunk was a developing genre.
If you think Matrix copied Dark City well watch Blade 1 right now, because the similar ideas in style and stunts are striking.
But again these movies weren't copying 1 example of another movie, they were imitating styles from heaps of movies, tv shows and anime from the late 80's and 90's.
dark city and 13thfloor got it right and only made one movie.
Visual aesthetic and action choreography that (at the time) were fresh and exotic to mainstream audiences. And a stellar ad-campaign.
The Matrix made better use of its budget and looks less amateurish. Dark City can be easily mistaken for an 80s movie.
no it can't
not even visually. much less in terms of tone, content, themes
Fine, I exaggerated a bit. But it still looks like it was made closer to 1990 than 2000.
And that's a good thing. movies looked better in 1990 than 2000. also because dark city wanted to look and feel quite classic and metropolis-ish whereas the matrix was focused on the future and y2k and that kind of vibe. It's intentional that one would look more modern than the other , not just in set design but camera, lighting, framing.
>what if the world wasn't... le REAL???
wow amazing what an original question
Yes, at the time it was. It took 10-15 years for it to become a meme that Reddit pseuds jizz over.
yeah it's not like people haven't been questioning whether the world is real for thousands of years.
It's something that can be analyzed in-depth, as there are a lot of questions about how true any of our conceived laws of reality really are, rather than circumstantial anomalies.
Matrix is a solid movie in every regard, Dark City has a goofy mind power battle
Dark City is a great film but not superior, you're being contrarian
matrix was cooler
simple as
The Thirteenth Floor is one of my favorite movies.
I spent $40 for the blu-ray in 2018
Now, it costs $70+ used
One has Connelly, one has Carrie Ann Moss ass shot teases in skin tjght leather.
Choose.
Why does the Matrix's success upset you? It's a good movie regardless of what happened to the diectors.
>What made Matrix so popular?
sexier, more stylish, cutting edge cinematography, well written script that maps well onto classical mythology and philosophical ideas, better music, big name actor, and it generally captured the feel of the late 90s better
>maps well onto
you mean they ripped it off
name ONE movie that doesnt rip off something else
world on wire is the best tho
Matrix was a far better film.
Tron is from 1982.
Yes, it "dumber" and there is no way anyone mixes up this world for that one, but "computer creates world" is way older in mainstream movies than the 90s.