Cleopatra wasn't Macedonian. That's a fact. Cleopatra's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather was ethnically Macedonian. You know how many grandparents you have 7 generations back? 512. Imagine going on pol and telling them that you're white because one of your 256 7xgreat-grandfathers was Macedonian. Do you think any of your fellow chuds would accept that?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cleopatra was so fricking inbred she was more Macedonian than Alexander
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Imagine typing all of this stupid shit out just to show everyone how uneducated you are.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no argument
as usual.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Face it. He blew you the frick out.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Maybe if you'd actually crack open a history book you'd know that the Macedonian pikemen that carved out Alexander's empire were given its land and made up the ruling aristocracy of the ptolemic and selucid empires
anyway that wasn't the meaning of his image, moron
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cool story bro. Alexander died 300 years before Cleopatra was born. As I mentioned before, at that time 512 of Cleopatra's direct ancestors would have been around. Two of them were Macedonians. Why are those two people the most important in determining the ancestry of Cleopatra 300 years later?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
*determining the ethnicity
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>at that time 512 of Cleopatra's direct ancestors would have been around
Except there weren't that many because of the serious inbreeding of the Ptolemies. The only "foreign" blood injection was her great-great-great-grandmother who was a Seleucid(Also Macedonians) princess. Everything between her and Ptolemy I was sibling marriage, all THREE generations of it. Face facts Black person, she was more Macedonian than Alexander was.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Look at those unknowns, then consider that you also don't know their grandparents, and their great-grandparents and so on. That makes over 400 ancestors just within 7 generations that you don't know anything about.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Unknowns
I'm guessing you pulled that from an afrocentrist history website because we know all of Cleopatra's ancestors. The Egyptians and Greeks were fantastic record keepers.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
so if I'm of 95% european ancestry and 5% african ancestry, that automatically categorize me as black african?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If I offered you a cake and told you it was 95% chocolate but 5% decal matter, would you eat it?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ptolemy XII's "mother" is unknown because his mother was either his father's first wife, who was his sister, or his second wife, who was his sister. Cleopatra was Greek, you Black folk need to get over this.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>possible African wife
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Unknown means it must be african
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are now aware this is all an elaborate interracial cuckold fetish LARP for these people
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The Macedonians made up the 1st class citizenry. They didn't just disappear. The Ptolemic dynasty was inbred, and if they married outside the family it was with the Macedonian aristocracy, not some commoner
If you have these genuine questions why don't you get your answers from real historians with actual evidence to back it up. Stop trying to mmbend history to what you want to believe
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
wrong
ptolemies were well known for incest
cleopatra had maybe 100 grand parents 7 generations back
fricking moron
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You know how many grandparents you have 7 generations back? 512.
It's 128 you fricking moron. Learn to math.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You know how many grandparents you have 7 generations back? 512.
7 generations back is 128 and Cleopatra only had 4 ancestors, see pic rel
Cleopatra was Ptolemaic. She even had red hair, which was fashionable in Greece during her time. Pic related is a good recreation. She was "of the people" and spent a lot of time outside, so she would've been about this dark.
Whatever happened to red hair? It like disappears during the Roman Period and then one moronic artist associates red hair with Judas and suddenly every European fears red hair because it meant you were a israelite.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Probably the Irish being considered subhuman for a bunch of years and having red hair.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Irish don't have red hair, that's the Scots, moron.
The traditional Irish look is dark hair, pale skin and blue eyes.
The traditional Scottish look is red hair, pale skin and green eyes.
But idiots see the flag of Ireland and put that onto the people.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Irish is 10% redhead while Scotland is 6% redhead you fricking moron.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not that guy, but Ireland is a Scottish colony. That's basically where the troubles came from, people act like its a catholic vs protestant thing since that ties it up in a neat bow, but at its heart its really ethnic Irish vs Scottish Irish, who incidentally tend to divide along catholic/protestant lines.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lolwut? Ireland and England being at odds has been around since the mid 12th century and proper colonization started in the 16th century. They may sent Scots over to colonize the lands, but it was done so by order of the UK crown which Scotland was a part of at the time. Also ironic it became a battle of religion when it was the English who originally converted the Celtic Irish to Catholicism before the schism in the church.
>I'm gonna use an AI pic, that will show them
I don't think Cleopatra was black, but you aren't helping our case
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The bottom left image isn't contemporaneous to her reign but it was pretty close and as you can see it shows her as having full red hair. Personally I agree that she should be a little bit more tanned compared to that image. It also should have been done from the side to show her giant scnozz.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anglos are the same type of we wuzers as basketball americans
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
light pigmentation and hair is not exclusive to anglos, jose
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The difference is that Augustus and plenty of other Italians and Greeks had red/blonde hair and light eyes. Cleopatra will never be Egyptian and beyond that the Egyptians will never be black.
2 weeks ago
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>plenty of other Italians and Greeks had red/blonde hair and light eyes
Vitellius literally looked like pic rel
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>should be a little bit more tanned compared to that image
Implying she ever felt the heat of the sun on her skin, female aristocrats und royalty seldom spent any time under the sun
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I meant tanned more as in "mediterranean skintone." Her being pale white is completely fine as a guess too, ultimately, because we've been gaslit by people abusing the term medieterranean skintone to make it seem like there aren't extremely pale Italians and Greeks, which there were and are.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I meant tanned more as in "mediterranean skintone."
Problem is most of the women there spend a lot of time on the beach or just in the sun in general, so they aren’t indicative to how she would look
I know the HBO Rome character assassinated various people, but I really believed their version of her.
An off-white proto-BPD prostitute who was barely above average.
Do not use the fake modem country larping as Macedon. Tito the Yugoslavian dictator named the area Macedonia to make claims to all of Greece. The Slavic animals that live there have nothing to do with history, Slavs arrived in 14th century perhaps admixture with some indigenous peasants but that's it.
City-states were the rule of the ancient Greek world every city was it's own country. Every piece of pottery, every depiction, every piece of history, was Greek Macedonians are Greek. Demosthe nes was paid 50 silver talents by Persia to write his polemics. Look it up.
it is. Ancient macedonian empire was the first slavic empire ever. To this day alexander is one of the most popular names among eastern and southern slavs.
If you look at the map there you'll notice the big safe choridor either side of the 3000 miles of sand and death. If those adverts for Water Aid have taught me anything its that black people are not afraid to walk hundreds of miles a day just to get some dirty water, its like catnip to them.
Now imagine if word go around that there was actually cleen water in Egypt, Morocco and Lybia... You wouldn't be able to move for Africans coming around the sides of the 3000 miles of sand and death bit on your map.
>Is this "Hollywood movie by white/israelite owned & ran production" >yes >and black people need and want more screen time for "representation" >yes >and you believe this to me empowering >yes >so you're clammering to star in a movie that is owned and run by israeli and white people, you want to dance for them >black power!
What don't I know? Also, either I don't know or I'm confused. Being confused implies I know what the correct thing is but I made a misstep.
"ran" is the past tense. The past participle is "run". That wording calls for a past participle. Black people often incorrectly use the past tense instead of the past participle. Where's the mistake?
He's implying that Cleopatra was black because of being tangentially near (thousands of miles away) from blacks, even though the native Egyptian dynasty was replaced by Macedonian Geeks, she was a Macedonian Greek, and the native Egyptian dynasty which Macedonian Greeks replaced was also European (proven via DNA testing).
that eagle represents the legacy of bbc, whereever if it resides, so shall its spirit dwell, imbued into a crown bestowed unto the head of misfortune to achive the cumination of kali yuga
Egyptian here
I hate Black folk, like if they spend 5 mins doing a google search they'll know all of us hate them and they were our enemies
One of our rulers "can't remember his name atm" had their depictions on the bottom of his flipflops to remind himself they're always under his feet
And some of our temples have paintings of is slaying nogs and tying them to give to other kingdoms as slaves and wrote about how they're cowardly foes, have no honor and extremely stupid and easy to control and defeat
Beneath the hate I have toward them there's a grain of sand sized petty because they have nothing going on for them, nothing to be proud of
Descendants of slaves sold by their own kin for gunpowder and tobacco leafs to the israeli slave merchants.
Ugly
Low iq
Violent
Like if you remove any race from earth it'd have a negative impact
But these things it would actually be a net positive.
Kingdom of Kush lasted for less than 40 years and it was in sudan in the Nubian south aka the Black person zone where we kept the slaves
He larped for that period and made his slaves "does that make them double Black folk?" Build these wish dot com pyramids then another non nig pharaoh got tired of them because they kept blasting rap music at 4 pm and kneeled on his neck and business went back to usual
Why don't they show how every major historical event was actually orchestrated by strong black women? >Mista Oppenheimer, why don't you just a big ol' bomb on them slanty eye Japs? >Zoom in on Cillian Murphy's face as he finally realizes the solution that was in front of him all along >Black maid nods, having finally gotten through to the white boy and passed on her earthy wisdom
Cleopatra wasn't black because the very first Ptolemy and every single one after was white to middle eastern tan. They were Greeks and they wanted to keep their booodlines pure like the other pharaohs. Look up the family tree. There's fricking circles in it.
Also do you REALLY want Cleopatra to be black? Is it because of the Shakespeare play? Cleopatra was considered to be disgusting, disfigured, and absolutely moronic because of all the inbreeding. The only reason Caesar and Anthony married her was to steal Egypt and both men ultimately lost to Octavius.
Like of you want an actual black female pharaoh that was actually competent, look up Hatshepsut.
That guy is infamous on several other boards, he constantly gets banned from Cinemaphile. You can always tell by him using the same pictures and extremely bad english.
No, pretty deep into Middle Egypt. South of even modern day Cairo. So in all likelihood these were extremely tanned Romanized ethnic Egyptians. Still not black.
You do know YWNBAE (you will never be an Egyptian) right?
And most importantly, YWABAN (you will always be a Black person)
Like you can larp and post as many pics as you would like and deliberately mistepresent whatever info you cherry pick but it won't change the fact that African Americans are descendants of slaves and have zero value currently because we have cotton picking machines and are infact a burden even when their white "allies" back them up its just to feel good from the virtue signaling and out or pity.
>the white slave trade lasted almost a millenia and the women were used as concubine in harems mutting up the enitre region , a ill reflection of the past
Imagine scouring every board looking for threads to spam your afrocentrist homosexualry. I don't think I there's a lower creature on this planet. I have more respect for flesh eating bacteria.
Neither Caesar nor Antony would, part of Cleopatra's draw was her ancestor serving Alexander himself. If she had been so mutted by subsaharans as hoteps claim that she was full black they wouldn't have been interested.
Any of them, but the OP's picture is referring specifically to the Cleopatra everyone is aware of. It just seems like the picture you posted has nothing to do with the thread.
Because that was 4 hours ago and I wasn't in the thread then?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
do you know how imageboards work?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Usually I read the OP, the first couple posts and then scroll to the bottom. You respond to hours old posts when whoever posted it will likely never see your reply? Once again, what does your post have to do with morons claiming Cleopatra was black?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
are you going to ask that question about all the other images that don't relate to the OP?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If they were still in the thread, yeah. They're likely not. It seems you had a very emotional reason to post that picture that seems to have nothing to do with the OP.
>two of the guy's children died due to "failure to thrive" (read: starved to death) >other two children dirty, malnourished, covered in bruises >unwashed dishes, maggots on plates
Damn, why in the frick was the kid sentenced to 10 years of (juvenile) prison?
Why exactly are certain groups of people so politically motivated to coopt, either ethnically or culturally, certain historical figures from the distant past? Say that you even grant, hypothetically, that Cleopatra was a black woman or that blacks actually wuz kangs or whatever. What exactly does that prove? If anything would that not be more damning that you were at one point at such a station and failed to maintain it? Obviously that isn't the case, but it seems misguided for people to seek to legitimize some certain cultural or racial identity based on some appropriated past.
Nationalism is a moronic albeit powerful motivating ideology.
Fundamentally these are black nationalists looking to warp history to create elaborate fairytales that give them some kind of racial prestige. It's exactly the same thing that supremacist European anthropologists were doing 100 years ago.
It's reached a fever pitch now because self-loathing forces in the West love to indulge in the mythologies of underdeveloped people without realizing they're playing into, essentially, a far right movement among non-whites. Anticolonial writers are a particularly egregious example, many of which were avowed Marxists, whose writings are now essential in the grievance and vengeance narratives among the global south.
continent: northern africa / parts of the desert shithole of no note
race: egyptian, sub genre of proto desert c**ts that conquered blacks ages ago
religion: some fricking sun worship woth ra and pharaoh being child of god
relevance to europe outside roman grain ships: none
slaves build pyramids, egyptians are mix of proto italians and proto desert c**ts, ethiopians were painted as charcoal black when depicted and no one cares who claims their ancestry for egypt, do a side by side with tan italians and some iraqians and egyptians
they are long lost rape children of italy and middle east
country run by israelites (you) and not wasps (what you wish you were)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
America has never had a israelite as a figure head... how about you guys?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
worse you had them elect a Black person for you for 8 years, also ruined your country btw and another mutt blender as your current vp.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Well, you are either a dirty indian, a filthy asiatic, or live in a fantasy land of kings and queens... but none of that matters at all! If I bother to look at you at all, I will look down to do so.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I will never understand why amerimutt larping as what their european mood ring tells them to talk like this. Get in a fricking locker lmao. Thy day of reckoning shall come once thou troglodytes answer to thy day of the rope. homosexual lol.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
We run the world and you twitch and spit about your complete lack of relevence.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Twitching and spitting....you have acne all across your forehead you greasy frick lmfao, probably from your italian side am I right?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I have not had a zit in like 20 years you fricking moron. No Italian heritage either. Just because you are a fricking gypsy does not mean you have powers.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Say where you're from Black person, you don't get to insult the Iberians and then play coy.
>SAY W-WHRE YOURE FROM NOW
Even if I told you I was full English (found father bloodline btw) you would still cope and seethe. You will never be truly white just live with it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are English? The Windsors are German. You are a subjegated and confused peon
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Still. Purer. Than. You. Dont care how much you mimic Crusader Kings dialogue you'll always be a mixed mutt. Benjamin Franklin would find you disgusting. Let that sink in.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I wonder why they never say. Must be the shame.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are a footnote in American history. Your "empire" already fell and has no future. You are not "pure" you were left behid to inbreed.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
America owns your sweet ass too, honey. That's why you voluntarily spend your time on an American website talking to Americans about American productions and how you're actually not at all obsessed with America.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I AM American you shithead.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
NTA but Americans are the most mutted "whites", and the kiss me Irish kind of people, the bring-out-a-pie-chart kind of people when asked about their background don't help their case. Americans had it right with Teddy Roosevelt and now it's gone at their chance.
Fricking morons.
The thing is there are plenty of actual Black KANGS in Africa, but they don't want to learn about those because "Lernin history is fo white peepul sheeeit."
Also, a lot of those Black kings were totally fine with slavery and used slave labor all the time.
What impact does historical context have on logic? You have never been a slave. I never owned slaves. I don't owe you anything. Not even consideration.
>I don't understand how 400 years of race-based slavery and suppression can result in bad social-economic status
The smartest /misc/channer
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>400 years
smartest leftist
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes, 400 years of slavery and suppression
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The majority of slaves were not brought in until the early 1800s. Once again, smartest leftist.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I cannot read
leave morono
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
this homosexual seems to think he is a crossing guard. It is cute how they let the morons wear the orange vest and work the stop sign. You do not nee to pay them much mind though. They will try and lead you into traffic.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Apparently you cannot do math. Is 1800s to 1960s (which I assume is the cutoff of the suppression) 400 years?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They are still being supressed, expressed quite elegantly by your posts! I couldn't have given a more plastic example
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Can you point out anything racist I've said instead of me just laughing at you not knowing math or history?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
why limit it to 400 years? Lets hold everyone accountable for all of history... then, everyone has been both slave and slave master and the field is level. moron.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
We're not talking about the rest of the world, this is about the USA and its history of suppression that is directly responsible for the poor socio-economic status of African-Americans in the USA
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Oh yeah... they are free to go. They have been for awhile.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They are US citizens
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Then they should obey the laws and find a way to improve the society to demonstrate their worth. If they cannot do that, they should have the decency and self awareness to be quiet.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>should obey the laws >they need to show their worth >they need to improve society >otherwise they need to be quiet
Ah yes, the vocabulary of a fascist, lmao.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Jews got gassed and Japs got nuked, both groups doing great.
Frick Mexicans who hop the border and can't even speak English are doing better than Tyrone and Jamal.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Two nukes that killed relatively few people should've irreperabily damaged the Japanese economy and people
Okay, so you're just a moron, got it
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They weren't exactly doing very well even before whitey showed up. That tells me it's not whitey that's responsible for their stagnation.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Can you define "not doing very well"?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
starving in mud huts should work for that definition.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>starving in mud huts
Alright, leave with you.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lacking irrigated agriculture systems, lacking a written language, lacking an administrative bureaucracy, lacking basic machines like pulleys and the wheel/axle, lacking blue-water seafaring vessels, lacking contemporary metal working technologies, a lack of sophisticated civil engineering works, etc
I could go on. Sure these don't all apply to every West African civilization, but in terms of development most were FAR behind their east Asian and European contemporaries.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Empire
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You seem to have deliberately ignored the second half of my post that you're replying to.
But sure, the Afro-Arabic Malian kingdom was pretty good at extorting gold from neighboring gold producing regions.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
As oppossed to the peace-loving and non-beligerent Europeans? lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're totally off track now, you must be getting desperate. I never said anything about capability or propensity for violence, just that African societies were significantly less developed compared to those of Europe, Asia, and South America at the time, even prior to colonialism.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>If it doesn't fit in European standards it's not civilization
Alright buddy, we understand.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>incel coping by rationalizing lack of technological advancement
Yeah, that's a yikes moment.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Lacking certain technologies makes a people inferior
Big yikes moment
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lacking writing makes you pretty pathetic, yeah. Even chicken scratches like Linear A would be something.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Even children can google you know:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_systems_of_Africa
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, you'll notice that besides 6 to 7 (including hieroglyphics) the wikipedia page itself mentions that all other African writing systems were invented in the last two hundred years lmao
Been awhile but I'm almost certain Mali used the fricking Arabic script and language you dumb moron.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes, and?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So...they didn't have a writing system until the Arabs gave them one you fricking moron. You're proving that anon right.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Europoors didn't have writing until the Romans gave it to them either, what's the point?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And what continent are the Romans and Greeks on my moronic friend?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
1) Romans were europeans
3) there were several different scripts used by europeans that predate romans
3) europeans were able to writte new things, not just repeat one holy book
And where did the Romans get their alfabet from boys? You're so close!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
they created it to suit needs of their language. You know, completely opposite to what malians did
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
From the Etruscans, from Greek, from Linear B, from the Phoenicians. The Greeks, meanwhile, invented Linear A all by themselves and many Europeans used scripts before the Romans introduced the Latin one. Once again, how is this disproving that anon's point that not having a writing system until 200 years ago is pathetic?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why didn't the Brits and the Nordic master race invent the written languages well into the early middle ages? Pretty pathetic if you ask me
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Runes were already well established by the second century, but please, keep trying.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Carving some lines in a rock compared to the complex and paper-based writing language of the Romans? Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
Europoors are really inferior to the Romans. I wonder if it's genetic?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
How far can you move the goalposts?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
all the way to tel aviv
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Brits are living in mud huts and don't even have writing, how can we say they are not genetically inferior to the mighty Roman empire?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
two thousand years later Africans are still living in mud huts. How did that happen?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't know, maybe read up on the last 200 years of African history?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
There were many written languages in the African continent:
Those are the exact same 6-7 listed on the wikipedia page you linked, including Egyptian hieroglyphics. You really are just madly Googling while getting btfo'd aren't you?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>thinks I'm getting BTFO by some /misc/tards
Please, don't mention your beliefs to any serious people.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Concession accepted. In your mad Googling rush, try not using what appears to be a Afrocentrist blog next time.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
why? you were not able to contest even single one. On the other hand you tried to claim that mosque school was a university
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
but I thought afrikings were around for a gillion years and invented civilization. how could they be usurped by cave dwelling yuropoors? what's going on here?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
is there an example of blacks not living in mud huts?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The Celts very much did get their ass kicked by pretty much every other European, so yeah, maybe. This, funnily enough, was 2000 years ago. How pathetic is it to be living in mud huts with no writing system 200 years ago?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The Celts very much did get their ass kicked by pretty much every other European
yes and now. celts burned both rome and delphe down. Celts took anatolia and most of iberian peninsula.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
another caucasian race? lol they had an alphabet before they adopted phonetics
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
1) Romans were europeans
3) there were several different scripts used by europeans that predate romans
3) europeans were able to writte new things, not just repeat one holy book
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you do realize thats a quoran school right? just repeating the same scripture over and over. Its not like a real university or philosophy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cope however you like. Even the isolated New World civilizations had complex calendars, agricultural techniques (pictographic) written languages, and advanced stoneworking. You can desperately latch onto the "civilization relativism" cope all you want, but you can't pretend that West/Southern Africa was lagging pretty far behind the rest of the globe in terms of development just because you're bothered by the implications.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And what would that implication be, friend?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That not every group of people is as equally capable or talented as any other different group.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The Italians have a poor economy but I wouldn't call them inferior
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Do you disagree then? Or do you want to follow up with another non sequitur? Do you think any given group of individuals is going to be exactly equal in skill and ability when compared to a different group of individuals?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No, because no group comes from exactly the same environment, social or economic historical context. In that sense no two "groups" of people are the same.
The fun thing about the documentary is it ignored a core part of what made cleopatra special. Because they insisted she was black, they couldn't really cover it because it would contradict their false narrative, but the rulers of the time didn't actually speak Egyptian, and would require translators. Cleopatra spoke Egyptian and several other languages; not only did this make her popular, but it allowed her to out manoeuvre everyone else and communicate directly with her military, etc. - no need to worry about butthurt/scheming translators fricking up your rule.
Of course if you meme cleopatra as being a Black person, and Egyptians as being Black folk, you can't point out that the rulers are non-native.
They did cover it but it was so short I laughed. There was a quick section where they covered her being descended from Ptolemy but they pulled the "her mom could be Egyptian possibly maybe" nonsense and moved on.
okay then every black person of note was actually white because I say so.
>every black person of note
that's gonna be a short list. pretty much no list without half-breeds
"Africa means black" according to crimers.
EGYPT IS IN AFRICA WHITEY
MY ANCESTORS ARE FROM AFRICA
DAS WHY CLEPATRA WAS BLACK AND BUTIFUL LIKE ME
I'm not even joking or being hyperbolic, thats the entire justification
Imagine being this moronic.
And what is that supposed to mean? Cleopatra wasn't from Macedonia.
>People like this are allowed to vote.
Cleopatra wasn't Macedonian. That's a fact. Cleopatra's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather was ethnically Macedonian. You know how many grandparents you have 7 generations back? 512. Imagine going on pol and telling them that you're white because one of your 256 7xgreat-grandfathers was Macedonian. Do you think any of your fellow chuds would accept that?
Imagine typing all of this stupid shit out just to show everyone how uneducated you are.
>no argument
as usual.
Face it. He blew you the frick out.
Maybe if you'd actually crack open a history book you'd know that the Macedonian pikemen that carved out Alexander's empire were given its land and made up the ruling aristocracy of the ptolemic and selucid empires
anyway that wasn't the meaning of his image, moron
Cool story bro. Alexander died 300 years before Cleopatra was born. As I mentioned before, at that time 512 of Cleopatra's direct ancestors would have been around. Two of them were Macedonians. Why are those two people the most important in determining the ancestry of Cleopatra 300 years later?
*determining the ethnicity
>at that time 512 of Cleopatra's direct ancestors would have been around
Except there weren't that many because of the serious inbreeding of the Ptolemies. The only "foreign" blood injection was her great-great-great-grandmother who was a Seleucid(Also Macedonians) princess. Everything between her and Ptolemy I was sibling marriage, all THREE generations of it. Face facts Black person, she was more Macedonian than Alexander was.
Look at those unknowns, then consider that you also don't know their grandparents, and their great-grandparents and so on. That makes over 400 ancestors just within 7 generations that you don't know anything about.
>Unknowns
I'm guessing you pulled that from an afrocentrist history website because we know all of Cleopatra's ancestors. The Egyptians and Greeks were fantastic record keepers.
so if I'm of 95% european ancestry and 5% african ancestry, that automatically categorize me as black african?
If I offered you a cake and told you it was 95% chocolate but 5% decal matter, would you eat it?
Ptolemy XII's "mother" is unknown because his mother was either his father's first wife, who was his sister, or his second wife, who was his sister. Cleopatra was Greek, you Black folk need to get over this.
>possible African wife
>Unknown means it must be african
You are now aware this is all an elaborate interracial cuckold fetish LARP for these people
The Macedonians made up the 1st class citizenry. They didn't just disappear. The Ptolemic dynasty was inbred, and if they married outside the family it was with the Macedonian aristocracy, not some commoner
If you have these genuine questions why don't you get your answers from real historians with actual evidence to back it up. Stop trying to mmbend history to what you want to believe
wrong
ptolemies were well known for incest
cleopatra had maybe 100 grand parents 7 generations back
fricking moron
>You know how many grandparents you have 7 generations back? 512.
It's 128 you fricking moron. Learn to math.
>You know how many grandparents you have 7 generations back? 512.
7 generations back is 128 and Cleopatra only had 4 ancestors, see pic rel
it might help you to open a book once in a while
Cleopatra was so fricking inbred she was more Macedonian than Alexander
Cleopatra was Ptolemaic. She even had red hair, which was fashionable in Greece during her time. Pic related is a good recreation. She was "of the people" and spent a lot of time outside, so she would've been about this dark.
Whatever happened to red hair? It like disappears during the Roman Period and then one moronic artist associates red hair with Judas and suddenly every European fears red hair because it meant you were a israelite.
Probably the Irish being considered subhuman for a bunch of years and having red hair.
Irish don't have red hair, that's the Scots, moron.
The traditional Irish look is dark hair, pale skin and blue eyes.
The traditional Scottish look is red hair, pale skin and green eyes.
But idiots see the flag of Ireland and put that onto the people.
Irish is 10% redhead while Scotland is 6% redhead you fricking moron.
Not that guy, but Ireland is a Scottish colony. That's basically where the troubles came from, people act like its a catholic vs protestant thing since that ties it up in a neat bow, but at its heart its really ethnic Irish vs Scottish Irish, who incidentally tend to divide along catholic/protestant lines.
Lolwut? Ireland and England being at odds has been around since the mid 12th century and proper colonization started in the 16th century. They may sent Scots over to colonize the lands, but it was done so by order of the UK crown which Scotland was a part of at the time. Also ironic it became a battle of religion when it was the English who originally converted the Celtic Irish to Catholicism before the schism in the church.
>Egypt is in Africa, so Cleopatra was black.
>I'm gonna use an AI pic, that will show them
I don't think Cleopatra was black, but you aren't helping our case
The bottom left image isn't contemporaneous to her reign but it was pretty close and as you can see it shows her as having full red hair. Personally I agree that she should be a little bit more tanned compared to that image. It also should have been done from the side to show her giant scnozz.
Anglos are the same type of we wuzers as basketball americans
light pigmentation and hair is not exclusive to anglos, jose
The difference is that Augustus and plenty of other Italians and Greeks had red/blonde hair and light eyes. Cleopatra will never be Egyptian and beyond that the Egyptians will never be black.
>plenty of other Italians and Greeks had red/blonde hair and light eyes
Vitellius literally looked like pic rel
>should be a little bit more tanned compared to that image
Implying she ever felt the heat of the sun on her skin, female aristocrats und royalty seldom spent any time under the sun
I meant tanned more as in "mediterranean skintone." Her being pale white is completely fine as a guess too, ultimately, because we've been gaslit by people abusing the term medieterranean skintone to make it seem like there aren't extremely pale Italians and Greeks, which there were and are.
>I meant tanned more as in "mediterranean skintone."
Problem is most of the women there spend a lot of time on the beach or just in the sun in general, so they aren’t indicative to how she would look
I know the HBO Rome character assassinated various people, but I really believed their version of her.
An off-white proto-BPD prostitute who was barely above average.
Do not use the fake modem country larping as Macedon. Tito the Yugoslavian dictator named the area Macedonia to make claims to all of Greece. The Slavic animals that live there have nothing to do with history, Slavs arrived in 14th century perhaps admixture with some indigenous peasants but that's it.
City-states were the rule of the ancient Greek world every city was it's own country. Every piece of pottery, every depiction, every piece of history, was Greek Macedonians are Greek. Demosthe nes was paid 50 silver talents by Persia to write his polemics. Look it up.
That's not Macedonia moron
it is. Ancient macedonian empire was the first slavic empire ever. To this day alexander is one of the most popular names among eastern and southern slavs.
So, what you are saying is Jesus was a Puerto Rican?
Jesus is God. He was probably white because he was kind to people though
Jews are not white you deceptive frick.
yes, but Jesus was kind a nice to people so i very much doubt him being israeli
>brazilians are americans
makes sense
South Americans, yes. The continent is called South America.
But the super continent is simply America, thus everyone living on the super continent are Americans.
Anyone saying America means the United States of America. Semantics are for semen fanatics.
Yes, they are.
i don't see the difference between Clayton Santos Da Silva and the average amerimutt anymore
Why do leftoids think this geographically and historically illiterate gotcha is some kind of argument for Ancient Egyptians being black?
they're moronic and malicious
Presented without comment
Everyone post their favourite African.
His Big White Self is certified kinography
That's nifty and all, but Cleopatra still wasn't black, sorry.
You're forgetting the big river.
If you look at the map there you'll notice the big safe choridor either side of the 3000 miles of sand and death. If those adverts for Water Aid have taught me anything its that black people are not afraid to walk hundreds of miles a day just to get some dirty water, its like catnip to them.
Now imagine if word go around that there was actually cleen water in Egypt, Morocco and Lybia... You wouldn't be able to move for Africans coming around the sides of the 3000 miles of sand and death bit on your map.
Self own
Top quality bait.
Arabs ruled North Africa, and Greeks and then Romans
I read it in Patrick's voice.
>Is this "Hollywood movie by white/israelite owned & ran production"
>yes
>and black people need and want more screen time for "representation"
>yes
>and you believe this to me empowering
>yes
>so you're clammering to star in a movie that is owned and run by israeli and white people, you want to dance for them
>black power!
>owned & ran
>ran
So are both people in your example black, or is that just you?
>he doesn't know
>confuses himself
What don't I know? Also, either I don't know or I'm confused. Being confused implies I know what the correct thing is but I made a misstep.
"ran" is the past tense. The past participle is "run". That wording calls for a past participle. Black people often incorrectly use the past tense instead of the past participle. Where's the mistake?
I don't get it. What point is being made here? And Egypt isn't sub-saharan.
He's implying that Cleopatra was black because of being tangentially near (thousands of miles away) from blacks, even though the native Egyptian dynasty was replaced by Macedonian Geeks, she was a Macedonian Greek, and the native Egyptian dynasty which Macedonian Greeks replaced was also European (proven via DNA testing).
No one is saying they're not africans, are you moronic
So white south africans are black
yes yes yes, when you hear "israel" you think about this people, that with no doubt you can describe as asian, because they are asian
pic
I can smell the aids from here
God I love it when /misc/cels get BTFO
I smell bussy juice
Wouldn't that be shit? Why are gays so disgusting.
Shit mixed with sweat and semen. Peppered with AIDS.
Santorum.
Go back to the barn Tariq
This is exactly what chuds say.
No argument, as expected.
moronic, as expected.
>chuds
hmm what does this have to do with cleopatra being black? I wonder why no one else is calling this post out.
Is this real?
Anon did you seriously miss the New York tunnel israelites news at the beginning of the year?
dilate
Do black people have any culture whatsoever? Why do they just ape the culture of others?
>Why do they just ape the culture of others?
blacks were activating melanin receptors in europe during the early middle ages, cleaopatra was already old news
how do they manage to be worse than pajeets?
>pajeets
Why are incels so obsessed with this word?
Relax brown boy
I can smell your shitty brown skin through my screen
sar, please
What a grotesque creature
I'm so glad we pay 50%+ of our earnings in taxes to subsidize this
90IQ MAX
>calls you a mediocre white man
nah 80-85 at best
90 is being generous. I would bet she's Forrest Gump tier.
Did she just catch Han Solo or something?
If Cleopatra was black then why did they cast Aubrey Plaza to play her?
oh my god what film?
"Drunk History" on comedy central
I know that this shit is completely moronic and intolerable blah blah blah, I just really want to frick the actress they got for cleopatra in this.
>Cleopatra was black
>casts a actress with light brown skin
what did they mean by this?
same shit different hue
>my ancestor
Try being a Black person in Israel, that would be a story
whites were fauna during that time period, they wouldnt see a throne let alone a shower
oh shit they just found a photo of cleopatra's great great grandma looks like we wuz kangz!
whites werent sentient until they got their melanin receptors activated, the dark ages was the blacked ages were beast turned man
that eagle represents the legacy of bbc, whereever if it resides, so shall its spirit dwell, imbued into a crown bestowed unto the head of misfortune to achive the cumination of kali yuga
I like how for whatever reason that's literally the wikipedia page on the right, the jpg file itself, not an actual article using it
These threads are hilarious, they're posted just to bait the same images and the afrocentrist schizo
historically accurate depiction of cleopatra just hit my feed to wonder caesar and antony hit that shit frfr
FACT every black man and woman were loving as kings and queens until some evil white sorcerer cast a magic spell to rewrite history. It's true
anyone got any kino massive goon recs?
>american history N
Something Awful has gone too far.
nice
uh yikes, who are "they"?
Egyptian here
I hate Black folk, like if they spend 5 mins doing a google search they'll know all of us hate them and they were our enemies
One of our rulers "can't remember his name atm" had their depictions on the bottom of his flipflops to remind himself they're always under his feet
And some of our temples have paintings of is slaying nogs and tying them to give to other kingdoms as slaves and wrote about how they're cowardly foes, have no honor and extremely stupid and easy to control and defeat
Beneath the hate I have toward them there's a grain of sand sized petty because they have nothing going on for them, nothing to be proud of
Descendants of slaves sold by their own kin for gunpowder and tobacco leafs to the israeli slave merchants.
Ugly
Low iq
Violent
Like if you remove any race from earth it'd have a negative impact
But these things it would actually be a net positive.
don't forget they had the privilege of washing the pharaoh's dick
Kingdom of Kush would like a word
Kingdom of Kush lasted for less than 40 years and it was in sudan in the Nubian south aka the Black person zone where we kept the slaves
He larped for that period and made his slaves "does that make them double Black folk?" Build these wish dot com pyramids then another non nig pharaoh got tired of them because they kept blasting rap music at 4 pm and kneeled on his neck and business went back to usual
>less than 40 years
>the actual empire lasted from 780 BC to 350 AD
And unlike you Egyptian gays, they didn't get conquered by white people for centuries.
Because there wasn’t anything there worth to take
Why don't they show how every major historical event was actually orchestrated by strong black women?
>Mista Oppenheimer, why don't you just a big ol' bomb on them slanty eye Japs?
>Zoom in on Cillian Murphy's face as he finally realizes the solution that was in front of him all along
>Black maid nods, having finally gotten through to the white boy and passed on her earthy wisdom
Cleopatra wasn't black because the very first Ptolemy and every single one after was white to middle eastern tan. They were Greeks and they wanted to keep their booodlines pure like the other pharaohs. Look up the family tree. There's fricking circles in it.
Also do you REALLY want Cleopatra to be black? Is it because of the Shakespeare play? Cleopatra was considered to be disgusting, disfigured, and absolutely moronic because of all the inbreeding. The only reason Caesar and Anthony married her was to steal Egypt and both men ultimately lost to Octavius.
Like of you want an actual black female pharaoh that was actually competent, look up Hatshepsut.
...you do know white paint fades and gets dirt on it right?
>replying to a known schizo
holy newbie
That guy is infamous on several other boards, he constantly gets banned from Cinemaphile. You can always tell by him using the same pictures and extremely bad english.
Those are pictures of Roman Egyptians from Faiyum, he spams them every thread.
Is that like in Alexandria?
No, pretty deep into Middle Egypt. South of even modern day Cairo. So in all likelihood these were extremely tanned Romanized ethnic Egyptians. Still not black.
>...you do know white paint fades and gets dirt on it right?
you know paint fades over the course of a millennium or two right?
You do know YWNBAE (you will never be an Egyptian) right?
And most importantly, YWABAN (you will always be a Black person)
Like you can larp and post as many pics as you would like and deliberately mistepresent whatever info you cherry pick but it won't change the fact that African Americans are descendants of slaves and have zero value currently because we have cotton picking machines and are infact a burden even when their white "allies" back them up its just to feel good from the virtue signaling and out or pity.
>my hotep black nationalist mom taught me fake history when I was a child and I still believe in it
Kek
Any good ancient egypt documentaries that don't have this horseshit or aliens?
>the white slave trade lasted almost a millenia and the women were used as concubine in harems mutting up the enitre region , a ill reflection of the past
>whites were irrelavnt in BC era
What a coincidence, the BC era is irrelevant in 2024!
so whites were slaves too? why are blacks the only one still crying for reparations?
is it because they're weak little b***hes?
>why are blacks the only one still crying for reparations?
they deserve it more because black bodies are worth more than all the gold in the world
Imagine scouring every board looking for threads to spam your afrocentrist homosexualry. I don't think I there's a lower creature on this planet. I have more respect for flesh eating bacteria.
REMINDER: CAESAR FRICKED HER SENSELESS FIRST
blacks are the ultimate cuckolds because they desperately want to claim Caesar's cum dump as their queen
Damn dirty ape!
Comparing Caesar to Black folk is offensive to Apes.
Jaquarious..those are egyptians from the Fayum portraits,
No. How could we know?
Hummina hummina
Mark antony does not seem like the guy to get THAT involved with a darkie, so i can't believe cleo was black.
Neither Caesar nor Antony would, part of Cleopatra's draw was her ancestor serving Alexander himself. If she had been so mutted by subsaharans as hoteps claim that she was full black they wouldn't have been interested.
>black demon from hell with webbed fingers
>my ancestors!
at least you realize you aren't human
a black person can't walk out in the daylight without getting shot by another black person
black skin turns into a shit raisin that smells worse than pajeet breath
Anon you know that a layer of dirt and dust settles over time right ?
DAMN dude serves him RIGHT for BEATING his SON and WIFE
you'd forgive him wouldn't you?
How does this post mean that Cleopatra is black?
which cleopatra?
Any of them, but the OP's picture is referring specifically to the Cleopatra everyone is aware of. It just seems like the picture you posted has nothing to do with the thread.
>durr wut duz dis havta doo wit cleopatra?
why don't you ask that question for this post?
Because that was 4 hours ago and I wasn't in the thread then?
do you know how imageboards work?
Usually I read the OP, the first couple posts and then scroll to the bottom. You respond to hours old posts when whoever posted it will likely never see your reply? Once again, what does your post have to do with morons claiming Cleopatra was black?
are you going to ask that question about all the other images that don't relate to the OP?
If they were still in the thread, yeah. They're likely not. It seems you had a very emotional reason to post that picture that seems to have nothing to do with the OP.
How do you know they're not still in the thread?
>two of the guy's children died due to "failure to thrive" (read: starved to death)
>other two children dirty, malnourished, covered in bruises
>unwashed dishes, maggots on plates
Damn, why in the frick was the kid sentenced to 10 years of (juvenile) prison?
Wyte bois mad cuz da pyrmaids were built by bbc genes
Blacks enslaved the israelites? Sounds like the israeli community needs reparations from the black community
Why exactly are certain groups of people so politically motivated to coopt, either ethnically or culturally, certain historical figures from the distant past? Say that you even grant, hypothetically, that Cleopatra was a black woman or that blacks actually wuz kangs or whatever. What exactly does that prove? If anything would that not be more damning that you were at one point at such a station and failed to maintain it? Obviously that isn't the case, but it seems misguided for people to seek to legitimize some certain cultural or racial identity based on some appropriated past.
Nationalism is a moronic albeit powerful motivating ideology.
Fundamentally these are black nationalists looking to warp history to create elaborate fairytales that give them some kind of racial prestige. It's exactly the same thing that supremacist European anthropologists were doing 100 years ago.
It's reached a fever pitch now because self-loathing forces in the West love to indulge in the mythologies of underdeveloped people without realizing they're playing into, essentially, a far right movement among non-whites. Anticolonial writers are a particularly egregious example, many of which were avowed Marxists, whose writings are now essential in the grievance and vengeance narratives among the global south.
If Cleopatra was black, then she had white boy fever.
Who even is this person? Was this part of the show?
I don't know but aren't you OUTRAGED?!?!?!
don't you want to seethe and be angry about it on the internet? huh? HUH?
>INSTEAD BE OUTRAGED BY ME POSTING MY NAZI HATE IMAGE RARRRRRR
something tells me you're a little biased maybe?
No, just laughing at blatant hypocrisy and a seething posting style so obvious I could spot it.
>blatant hypocrisy
like when you wouldn't call out other posts for relevancy but instead focused on mine for SOME REASON?
Because your seething is funny to me. Cleopatra wasn't black and the woman in the OP is fun to laugh at.
oh okay. thanks for making it clear for me, neo nazi.
I guess if making fun of someone woman saying a historical figure was black because her grandmother said so makes me a nazi, then I'm a proud nazi.
you don't need to make it clear for me.
we can all see what a piece of shit you are quite clearly already.
Sorry, I'll be sure not to make fun of you posting a seething off topic image next time.
Why are we still seething over this? Yeah, it was stupid, but fricking move on already.
settle down, this and graham hanwiener are nearly the only two /tv subjects to get real discussion and stay on-topic
continent: northern africa / parts of the desert shithole of no note
race: egyptian, sub genre of proto desert c**ts that conquered blacks ages ago
religion: some fricking sun worship woth ra and pharaoh being child of god
relevance to europe outside roman grain ships: none
slaves build pyramids, egyptians are mix of proto italians and proto desert c**ts, ethiopians were painted as charcoal black when depicted and no one cares who claims their ancestry for egypt, do a side by side with tan italians and some iraqians and egyptians
they are long lost rape children of italy and middle east
Saved
TND
He looks like one of those shrunken heads blown up to life size.
>black
>shows a mulatto with 80% white features
Hahahaha
For all anyone knows they were chinese. Unless you have a time machine these fricking morons need to shut the frick up.
we DO have a time machine, and it was invented by BLACKS. It does not work though.
Hi greek boys :3
Want to plunder my pyramid?
>pic
Looks more aztec or some such, you're thinkin of the Spanish (also white)
>spanish
>white
i hate american fake white supremists so much.
Spanish were btfoing Muslims while you call them nonwhite online
only after they were conquered and became non white for a few hundred years sure lmao. Another amerimutt thinking hes spanish now.
Please tell me you're from mutt island, that would make all of this seething funnier.
Ukraine, shithead.
nah he tried it not from shit hole ukraine, but at least those gays dont larp like amerigoblins
Say where you're from Black person, you don't get to insult the Iberians and then play coy.
the Black person shit is cringe but holy frick amerimutts like to lapr as anglos, irish, italians, vikings, you name it. insane cringe being a mutt.
Your throwback old world schools have done you a huge diservice by misleading you into thinking you matter.
Ok Shamus Smith tell me about your latest rune tattoo.
its an american, so its probably a spongebob tattoo
I do not have any tattoos, just as your nations have no impact on global affairs unless my country says so.
country run by israelites (you) and not wasps (what you wish you were)
America has never had a israelite as a figure head... how about you guys?
worse you had them elect a Black person for you for 8 years, also ruined your country btw and another mutt blender as your current vp.
Well, you are either a dirty indian, a filthy asiatic, or live in a fantasy land of kings and queens... but none of that matters at all! If I bother to look at you at all, I will look down to do so.
I will never understand why amerimutt larping as what their european mood ring tells them to talk like this. Get in a fricking locker lmao. Thy day of reckoning shall come once thou troglodytes answer to thy day of the rope. homosexual lol.
We run the world and you twitch and spit about your complete lack of relevence.
Twitching and spitting....you have acne all across your forehead you greasy frick lmfao, probably from your italian side am I right?
I have not had a zit in like 20 years you fricking moron. No Italian heritage either. Just because you are a fricking gypsy does not mean you have powers.
>SAY W-WHRE YOURE FROM NOW
Even if I told you I was full English (found father bloodline btw) you would still cope and seethe. You will never be truly white just live with it.
You are English? The Windsors are German. You are a subjegated and confused peon
Still. Purer. Than. You. Dont care how much you mimic Crusader Kings dialogue you'll always be a mixed mutt. Benjamin Franklin would find you disgusting. Let that sink in.
I wonder why they never say. Must be the shame.
You are a footnote in American history. Your "empire" already fell and has no future. You are not "pure" you were left behid to inbreed.
America owns your sweet ass too, honey. That's why you voluntarily spend your time on an American website talking to Americans about American productions and how you're actually not at all obsessed with America.
I AM American you shithead.
NTA but Americans are the most mutted "whites", and the kiss me Irish kind of people, the bring-out-a-pie-chart kind of people when asked about their background don't help their case. Americans had it right with Teddy Roosevelt and now it's gone at their chance.
You're from fricking mutt island lmfao
How would her stupid fricking mong mother know 100% cleopatra was black was she there
Dumb c**t
Tbh that level of "Black" is less atrocious than actual congo Black. Plenty of meds look like that.
>I don't care what they tell you in school
No black person does in my experience kek
i love this asian people so much
I saw homosexual march in Japan, 90% was not japanese, just foreign vermin like pic rel
Wtf is Hasan doing there in the middle
Fricking morons.
The thing is there are plenty of actual Black KANGS in Africa, but they don't want to learn about those because "Lernin history is fo white peepul sheeeit."
Also, a lot of those Black kings were totally fine with slavery and used slave labor all the time.
>Also, a lot of those Black kings were totally fine with slavery and used slave labor all the time.
What's your point exactly?
It is funny that people that have never been a slave think people that have never owned slaves somehow wronged and owe them for slavery
>I don't understand historical context
Okay buddy, you're qualified for /misc/
What impact does historical context have on logic? You have never been a slave. I never owned slaves. I don't owe you anything. Not even consideration.
>I don't understand how 400 years of race-based slavery and suppression can result in bad social-economic status
The smartest /misc/channer
>400 years
smartest leftist
Yes, 400 years of slavery and suppression
The majority of slaves were not brought in until the early 1800s. Once again, smartest leftist.
>I cannot read
leave morono
this homosexual seems to think he is a crossing guard. It is cute how they let the morons wear the orange vest and work the stop sign. You do not nee to pay them much mind though. They will try and lead you into traffic.
Apparently you cannot do math. Is 1800s to 1960s (which I assume is the cutoff of the suppression) 400 years?
They are still being supressed, expressed quite elegantly by your posts! I couldn't have given a more plastic example
Can you point out anything racist I've said instead of me just laughing at you not knowing math or history?
why limit it to 400 years? Lets hold everyone accountable for all of history... then, everyone has been both slave and slave master and the field is level. moron.
We're not talking about the rest of the world, this is about the USA and its history of suppression that is directly responsible for the poor socio-economic status of African-Americans in the USA
Oh yeah... they are free to go. They have been for awhile.
They are US citizens
Then they should obey the laws and find a way to improve the society to demonstrate their worth. If they cannot do that, they should have the decency and self awareness to be quiet.
>should obey the laws
>they need to show their worth
>they need to improve society
>otherwise they need to be quiet
Ah yes, the vocabulary of a fascist, lmao.
Jews got gassed and Japs got nuked, both groups doing great.
Frick Mexicans who hop the border and can't even speak English are doing better than Tyrone and Jamal.
>Two nukes that killed relatively few people should've irreperabily damaged the Japanese economy and people
Okay, so you're just a moron, got it
They weren't exactly doing very well even before whitey showed up. That tells me it's not whitey that's responsible for their stagnation.
Can you define "not doing very well"?
starving in mud huts should work for that definition.
>starving in mud huts
Alright, leave with you.
Lacking irrigated agriculture systems, lacking a written language, lacking an administrative bureaucracy, lacking basic machines like pulleys and the wheel/axle, lacking blue-water seafaring vessels, lacking contemporary metal working technologies, a lack of sophisticated civil engineering works, etc
I could go on. Sure these don't all apply to every West African civilization, but in terms of development most were FAR behind their east Asian and European contemporaries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Empire
You seem to have deliberately ignored the second half of my post that you're replying to.
But sure, the Afro-Arabic Malian kingdom was pretty good at extorting gold from neighboring gold producing regions.
As oppossed to the peace-loving and non-beligerent Europeans? lol
You're totally off track now, you must be getting desperate. I never said anything about capability or propensity for violence, just that African societies were significantly less developed compared to those of Europe, Asia, and South America at the time, even prior to colonialism.
>If it doesn't fit in European standards it's not civilization
Alright buddy, we understand.
>incel coping by rationalizing lack of technological advancement
Yeah, that's a yikes moment.
>Lacking certain technologies makes a people inferior
Big yikes moment
Lacking writing makes you pretty pathetic, yeah. Even chicken scratches like Linear A would be something.
Even children can google you know:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_systems_of_Africa
Yeah, you'll notice that besides 6 to 7 (including hieroglyphics) the wikipedia page itself mentions that all other African writing systems were invented in the last two hundred years lmao
Why can't you google simple facts?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Timbuktu
Been awhile but I'm almost certain Mali used the fricking Arabic script and language you dumb moron.
Yes, and?
So...they didn't have a writing system until the Arabs gave them one you fricking moron. You're proving that anon right.
Europoors didn't have writing until the Romans gave it to them either, what's the point?
And what continent are the Romans and Greeks on my moronic friend?
And where did the Romans get their alfabet from boys? You're so close!
they created it to suit needs of their language. You know, completely opposite to what malians did
From the Etruscans, from Greek, from Linear B, from the Phoenicians. The Greeks, meanwhile, invented Linear A all by themselves and many Europeans used scripts before the Romans introduced the Latin one. Once again, how is this disproving that anon's point that not having a writing system until 200 years ago is pathetic?
Why didn't the Brits and the Nordic master race invent the written languages well into the early middle ages? Pretty pathetic if you ask me
Runes were already well established by the second century, but please, keep trying.
Carving some lines in a rock compared to the complex and paper-based writing language of the Romans? Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
Europoors are really inferior to the Romans. I wonder if it's genetic?
How far can you move the goalposts?
all the way to tel aviv
Brits are living in mud huts and don't even have writing, how can we say they are not genetically inferior to the mighty Roman empire?
two thousand years later Africans are still living in mud huts. How did that happen?
I don't know, maybe read up on the last 200 years of African history?
There were many written languages in the African continent:
https://our-ancestories.com/en-eu/blogs/news/exploring-ancient-african-writing-languages-unveiling-a-rich-legacy
post a credible source not your blog
Those are the exact same 6-7 listed on the wikipedia page you linked, including Egyptian hieroglyphics. You really are just madly Googling while getting btfo'd aren't you?
>thinks I'm getting BTFO by some /misc/tards
Please, don't mention your beliefs to any serious people.
Concession accepted. In your mad Googling rush, try not using what appears to be a Afrocentrist blog next time.
why? you were not able to contest even single one. On the other hand you tried to claim that mosque school was a university
but I thought afrikings were around for a gillion years and invented civilization. how could they be usurped by cave dwelling yuropoors? what's going on here?
is there an example of blacks not living in mud huts?
The Celts very much did get their ass kicked by pretty much every other European, so yeah, maybe. This, funnily enough, was 2000 years ago. How pathetic is it to be living in mud huts with no writing system 200 years ago?
>The Celts very much did get their ass kicked by pretty much every other European
yes and now. celts burned both rome and delphe down. Celts took anatolia and most of iberian peninsula.
another caucasian race? lol they had an alphabet before they adopted phonetics
1) Romans were europeans
3) there were several different scripts used by europeans that predate romans
3) europeans were able to writte new things, not just repeat one holy book
you do realize thats a quoran school right? just repeating the same scripture over and over. Its not like a real university or philosophy
Cope however you like. Even the isolated New World civilizations had complex calendars, agricultural techniques (pictographic) written languages, and advanced stoneworking. You can desperately latch onto the "civilization relativism" cope all you want, but you can't pretend that West/Southern Africa was lagging pretty far behind the rest of the globe in terms of development just because you're bothered by the implications.
And what would that implication be, friend?
That not every group of people is as equally capable or talented as any other different group.
The Italians have a poor economy but I wouldn't call them inferior
Do you disagree then? Or do you want to follow up with another non sequitur? Do you think any given group of individuals is going to be exactly equal in skill and ability when compared to a different group of individuals?
No, because no group comes from exactly the same environment, social or economic historical context. In that sense no two "groups" of people are the same.
The fun thing about the documentary is it ignored a core part of what made cleopatra special. Because they insisted she was black, they couldn't really cover it because it would contradict their false narrative, but the rulers of the time didn't actually speak Egyptian, and would require translators. Cleopatra spoke Egyptian and several other languages; not only did this make her popular, but it allowed her to out manoeuvre everyone else and communicate directly with her military, etc. - no need to worry about butthurt/scheming translators fricking up your rule.
Of course if you meme cleopatra as being a Black person, and Egyptians as being Black folk, you can't point out that the rulers are non-native.
They did cover it but it was so short I laughed. There was a quick section where they covered her being descended from Ptolemy but they pulled the "her mom could be Egyptian possibly maybe" nonsense and moved on.
>we wuz dick washers an shiet
>thread still going even though afrocentrists got btfo early on
at this point you ate just feeding trolls
>cleoPAtra
death to America
GREEKS ARE BLACK
AYO LIL DONNIE I JUST TOOK A MASSIVE SHIT AND IT WAS BLACK AS NIGHT WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THEN APPLES
I won
no you didnt