Marvel and DC shills must be nearing a stroke.
https://rippaverse.com/product/isom-1-campaign/
Ape Out Shirt $21.68 |
UFOs Are A Psyop Shirt $21.68 |
Ape Out Shirt $21.68 |
Marvel and DC shills must be nearing a stroke.
https://rippaverse.com/product/isom-1-campaign/
Ape Out Shirt $21.68 |
UFOs Are A Psyop Shirt $21.68 |
Ape Out Shirt $21.68 |
They've been dilating for the last 24 hours over it, for some reason.
>but dc told me only legacy characters can sell
Ahahahaha
oh no, marvek and dc will add even more blacks and diversity because of this
>+40 dollars for 96 pages
Yeah nah. I'm good.
broke homies aint shit
Average manga volume has over 200 pages and costs less than half that if we're talking online ordering. Got me fricked up if you think this is worth it.
The donations are associated with limited edition prints, items and perks.
The normal print will be cheaper.
>The donations are associated with limited edition prints, items and perks.
It legit says direct donations don't include the perks and I was talking about the base normal print that costs over 40 dollars if you count US shipping. For this indie that I've seen bigger books cost less if you buy 'em from a LCS.
we all know we're all going to read it when it gets ripped and posted on Cinemaphilemblr anyway
I'll be around if we get a storytime thread, otherwise I'm not buying this.
>capeshit
yawn
Why do these always seem so frontloaded? There were a lot of comicsgate bullshit that made a lot of money at the start and then absolutely shitall happened afterwards in terms of production, notoriety, and sustainability afterwards, like they made their money and flashed deuces after their initial hurrah.
>10 minutes later another +10,000 dollars.
This is basically a money printer,.
Nice. I like Rippa and I want his venture to do well considering how lame DC and Marvel have become. I'll skip the extra stuff and just pick up the $50 signed copy and hope it lures me in for future stories and characters from his universe. I don't do the whole merch and consoomer collectible thing. I spend enough money on OSR books and guitar pedals as is.
If you operate your own storefront, you have the ability to display whatever sales numbers you want.
This, honestly. But Cinemaphile's gullible as shit.
>he's just lying about every dollarydoo!
Based on what?
Why should I trust numbers on a random website? I could make a website saying 234523523523 people donated $4232758902730527598257 to me.
I'm no legal expert but when you're planning on selling a product, isn't it risky to lie about investment numbers? Like, that money is supposed to go to the comic. If he somehow made less than what was stated, that sounds like an investigation waiting to happen.
Only if you're trying to sell the company or get people to invest. If you're just trying to self-publish some books it doesn't matter.
>get people to invest
Is that not hat's happening?
>If you're just trying to self-publish some books it doesn't matter.
>he's lying about donations because... I mean, he could if he wanted to...
Why even assume it?
>Is that not hat's happening?
No, anon. You're just obfuscating shit because you can't prove he's not making the numbers up.
>you can't prove he's not making the numbers up
You haven't given me a reason to believe he is.
>some guy I never heard of starts a wannabe kickstarter and makes over $600,000 in a day
>source is from his own website
>this isn't suspicious
You're gullible.
See
(NTA)
>5000 people in one day agreed to spend an average of $100 on less than 100 pages of comic
Gullible.
Why is that unreasonable?
When was the last time you spent that much money on so little comic?
It's not only the comic, it's the support of the company and Eric's vision.
>Eric's vision.
What vision?
>>Eric's vision.
>What vision?
The RippaVERSE
And what is that?
N/A: I don't read superhero comics.
That is okay. Most of the doners don't read comics wither.
That's cool, because I also didn't donate.
people don't care about the comic, it's spite toward the big two.
Even if this was an Alan Moore masterwork illustrated by the finest Euro artists, that's still a pretty powerful ask. I have a SUSPICION that the final product will fall a bit short of that level of quality.
The question is about if the crowdfunding numbers are legit.
>The question is about if the crowdfunding numbers are legit.
Does it even matter? He doesn't have Investors in the SEC sense, he cannot defraud anyone, unless he just keeps the money and doesn't publish. He could claim it's a billion, who cares?
>We live in a world where large amounts of people are willing to dump their money into something they perceive as "worth" it/have value
Patreon
Kickstarter
GoFundMe
OnlyFans
Pornhub Subscriptions
IndieGoGo
A fricking Cinemaphile Pass
etc...
This isn't you being skeptical are calling out BS, this is you being a theorist because somewhere in the world, this /misc/ guy managed to pull half a million for his new comics to the point of having to rationalize the probability of people paying for XXX amount of pages. Do you know where the frick you are? As a person who is a "comic" fan, I'm surprised that you think this is beyond the realm of possibility
All those websites you named are regulated, unlike this guy's. Why should I trust some guy's website?
You have no idea though that he's inflating the sales. What exactly is your evidence or reasoning that isn't just, "I think" or "This looks fishy".
This. As I said before, Where. Do. You. Think. We. Are. We live in a society where a girl who's semi attractive can rake in over 10K on thirst traps and erotic pics online.
You've yet to provide proof though anon. I hate to be a "debate bro" but the burden of proof is on you. You can't simply say I think XXX about XXX and when challenged on why you feel/think that, argue that on us to prove this the original thing was true in the first place?
In my local comic shop I can buy 5 complete story arcs with that money, I'm just skeptical about people spending 100$ on a 1 issue comic that's not released.
It's not about buying a comic book, it's about people feeling like they are part of something.
Yes, that's how grifters work. They appeal to the Feels, and promise to soothe your feels for $$.
The issues that cause you to feel like you "aren't a part of something" aren't actually addressed, and they don't really care about them in the end.
>In my local comic shop I can buy 5 complete story arcs with that money
And at my local B&N I could buy the entire run of a seinen manga with that money.
See this is something I can get behind and UNDERSTAND why someone might feel this way. You are right it's bit overrated to pay 100$ on single story from someone or a company that has no reputation or credibility. The sad fact is that people are willing to pay "stupid" prices for what they think is worth it or is a great purchase.
Though if I'm actually looking at this, for around 100$ you can get a solid Omnibus and most of the ones I've read were around 150~200 and the first issue has 96 page. So again we come back to the fact that this is pretty much overrated for a first issue, and sadly again, people are willing to pay w/e for what they think is good enough.
Though to be fair the book isn't 100 dollars?
Issue 1 is 35.00$
Issue 1 (Signed) is 50.00$
A Poster is 30.00$
T-Shirts are 30.00$
Trading Cards are 100$. Which IMO is a bit of a ballsy move today. I mean, no disrespect if you play Magic, YuGiOh, or fricking Pokemon, but it seems like sketchy move to pump money into this thing.
Concept Art Book is 75.00
Isom #1 and 2 comic covers are 65.00$
Bundle (Issue #1 A and B signed) are 90$
and etc... cause there's like over 25 things you can buy
Here's the crazy thing. If you go to: https://rippaverse.com/product/isom-1-campaign/. You will be able to SEE all the prices for everything and how much people bought said thing. So unless you're willing to legit run through the list and ring the cost, I have no reason to believe Eric would bs on this, and frick off with, "it's the internet and people lie here"
I run through the list and ring the cost, It don't match.
Well what was the actual cost then?
Dude, people on this very site spend $30-$100 a year on Cinemaphile passes so they don't have to solve captchas.
How moronic are you?
Still not proof, moron. Just because other people burn their money on stupid shit doesn't mean it's not suspicious. If this grift falls apart based on one simple question, it's not a good grift.
It's not suspicious just because you say it is, just be honest and say you think it's a grift because the dude's a right-winger and save us all this bullshit concern trolling.
>It's not suspicious just because you say it is,
If it's not suspicious, then prove the numbers are real instead of having a meltdown.
You're the one making the claim, the burden of proof is on you to prove that they're fake.
Either post proof or just admit that you don't like the fact that the dude is a right-winger.
I asked how you know if the numbers are real, explained why they can be fake, and here you are having a meltdown. You're not good at this.
>explained why they can be fake
Except you didn't do that part at all.
I did.
Is it that hard for you believe someone on the internet could lie?
That's not proof or an explanation, it's just speculation.
Post proof or stop replying to me.
No. Now you can keep being a child or you can explain why this isn't a lie.
>you made the claim, so back it up
>no
Thank you for wasting our time.
Or you can be more honest and say you like grifters.
Your only evidence that it's a grift is speculation.
Speculation you've embarrassingly failed to debunk.
You don't need to debunk speculation, since speculation typically isn't based on anything.
>You don't need to debunk speculation,
Yes you can, moron. If some guy claiming to be a Nigerian prince emailed you asking for money, would you speculate they were lying, or give them the money?
>Yes you can, moron.
I said you don't need to, because it's not based on anything.
It's like saying pizzagate is 100% real based on all the speculation around it, even though there isn't any concrete proof.
Further proof that horseshoe theory is real.
>because it's not based on anything.
Yes it is, moron. It's based on doubt. If you can't refute that doubt and talk in circles and whine about horseshoe theory, you've lost.
>It's based on doubt.
Doubt is not proof, again, this is like saying that pizzagate is real because you have doubts that the "elites" are NOT sacrificing children to Moloch.
Horseshoe theory.
That said, this thread is on autosage, so I'm outta here.
Deuces
>Argument reaches climax and exposes extreme arguments
The problem is that you're unironically feeling justified that no one here is able to sway your personal theories lol
I think you need to take a break b/c you're A) Not making any sense and B) Just proving how empty your "argument" is.
We went from an Argument -> Speculation -> Doubt? Just because you doubt something doesn't mean anything. It poses the IDEA of something to be explored but that's it. If you only have a doubt without solid proof then that's no longer a thing to be explored. Saying that this is the internet and people lie, or using words like "grifters" or "scam", or even the argument that he can change the numbers, how would you prove that?
How can you prove he changed the numbers (inb4 you prove he didn't, I'm not asking to debunk but for clarity). Can you actually PROVE he changed anything?
Basically this.
>No
Then I accept your concession.
Next time just say "he's a right-winger, so I think he's lying because I hate right-wingers."
It'd be more honest.
Yes but those same people spend full-time job hours shitposting on Cinemaphile. This is a floppy you can read in a few minutes and then what?
If your argument is that people are stupid I won't disagree with that but that's not a particularly smart thing to argue in favor of this.
Even at the opportunity to read new comics that aren't from the Big 2, you still have can't keep Marvel or DC out of your mouth.
I wonder how many people who are into this are just trying to pull a "fast one" over Marvel and DC fans
I'm not sure if you realize but you sound like a cynical person here. Your only reason that this is fake and a front is because..... in a short amount of time a campaign reached XXX amount of money? Let alone the idea that because you don't know said person then there's something out of wack here.
Kickstarter, indiegogo, etc. takes a chunk of the money. There's a good reason not to use these platforms.
But the haters have nothing left than create conspiracies around the sales numbers.
>But the haters have nothing left than create conspiracies around the sales numbers.
Again, two days ago you guys told me there wouldn't be any crowdfunding because the comics were already made out of pocket.
>thinks a company is a charity
How to tell people that you failed economics 101
Oh so you're a bigger idiot than I thought. Why are you taking the words of people on Cinemaphile let alone Cinemaphile without a grain of salt? Either you're the oblivious dumbass or you're genuinely scrambling to prove your theory.
I'm not taking any words of anyone. I'm just pointing out the mountain of lies surrounding this scam.
"It won't be crowdfunded"
"It won't just be capeshit"
"It won't be political"
These threads are just shills lying for culture warrior points and calling anyone that notices the obvious barefaced lies a troony.
Instead of listening to trolls on Cinemaphile, watch Eric's videos.
$559,000 / 5,541 backers = average sale of $100 per backer. The lowest cost purchase is $35. Considering all the add-ons and donations this isn't really unreasonable
People don't realize how much money his videos make and how rabid his fans are. They think they are fighting an important cultural battle and will throw a lot of money at them.
They will pretend that their being canceled and make even more money.
I respect the hustle and conviction of staying true to word.
kek welp you gotta follow da money.
heres hoping hes not one of those fellas that releases a comic every two years.
>inb4 his artists dont get paid royalties
>100$ for one song, 25% of his own merchandise and a chance of him listening to your request.
Is this guy serious?
His backers are whales
What a surprise
Cry some more, troony
That's a fraction of the worst performing Big 2 single issue for like double the content though.
>Best selling comics of 2021.
Rippa makes it into the top 25 in 1 day.
Keep in mind that Rippa doesn't have all those expenses either. He has a handful of people working for him and he's still making top dollar off his book.
Bruh, only just barely 5000 people spent money on this
That's just slightly above cancelation line for a non Marvel/DC comic
It's less than half the hardcancellation line and a quarter of the soft one.
These are just the preorders, and it's still just the first day.
Plus, it's a lot more money than most comics make in their entire lifetime.
He overpriced his books to make that money. I can complete a comic arc with that money.
So where will this be in ten years, My guess a forgotten dream as Rippa washes a another car.
>So where will this be in ten years
It doesn't have to be anywhere in ten years, it just has to make him a shitload of money. Comicsgate "Wave 1.0" to call it that worked the same way, people were donating in droves because they like what folks say on Youtube, not because they actually expect any sort of longterm pay off as far as titles go or becoming a benchmark of pop culture.
It's paying people for their opinions and rationalizing it as a "nice little extra" on the side to get anything at all.
The most fascinating thing is seeing people legitimately hate Rippa for trying. For most, it was all fine and dandy when he was yet another guy ranting about comics, but the legitimate dislike I see welling in people because Rippa is attempting to be more than that is just interesting to watch.
>The most fascinating thing is seeing people legitimately hate Rippa for trying.
This is what gets me too.
If it's bad then it's bad. If it fails then it fails.
But the comic isn't even out yet.
We need more people like Rippa to change the industry.
That's just your standard leftist totalitarianism.
They don't like comic books, all they care about is controlling what comic books you're allowed to read.
>people legitimately hate Rippa for trying
They don’t. A lot of people just find it obnoxious when you come here shouting RIPPA DID IT,DC AND MARVEL BTFO and make multiple threads about this shit and pretend like you’re some kind of a game changer because you did a crowdfunding campaign that had several people throw hundred dollars to get a comic that has a nothingburger summary, simply because you’re an anti-sjw youtuber’s devoted fanboy.
I don't agree. There's several comments just attacking his character and predicting he's going to crash and burn right in this thread.
It would be different if people said "will you homosexuals stop sucking this man's dick?", but they're not saying that. They're saying Rippa is just going to fail spectacularly.
It's a predictable pattern and people are asking you to stop this cycle of comicgate spam.
>They're saying Rippa is just going to fail spectacularly.
I guess it'd depend on what the failure is at. If it's about making money this is already a resounding success.
If it's about "replacing Marvel and DC" then yes, the prognostic doesn't look very good. But hey, can't blame a guy for trying.
good for them for being able to capitalize on shitty drama
but man this looks like shit. why do these alternatives to the big 2 look like such uninspired dog shit
>Just saw the cover, concludes that it's "uninspired dog shit."
You're being too obvious mouse shill.
>The comics are already made and paid for he doesn't need to crowdfund
>His crowdfunding is making gorillions leftists are seething
So which was it again?
I have no idea what this is. Can I get a rundown?
A guy that hates sjws is making a comic and people are throwing money at him, marxists are "mad" about it.
Is the comic even about anything interesting, or is it just more cape shenanigans with added culture war bullshit?
>Is the comic even about anything interesting, or is it just more cape shenanigans with added culture war bullshit?
Teaser is here.
I expected as much, given that pretty much every one of these original comics pretty much try the cape world route, but frick it if I'm still not disappointed in myself for even considering otherwise.
It's capeshit according to the synopsis.
>"This will flop"
- Hype is huge
>"It won't make any money"
- Makes $500,000 in a few hours
>No one is talking about it
- Dozens of videos from big name Youtubers talking about how it will save or destroy the comic industry as we know it
How many times can they be wrong?
Well, I think this guy is entirely straight and won't be found guilty of embezzlement.
>save or destroy the comic industry as we know it
That's literally what people were saying about Cyberfrog and huhhh we really didn't go through this massive 'paradigm shift' did we?
Everything above it seems legit with how it's the usual copium from Big 2 apologists but don't kid yourself, this is about making the one specific guy a lot of money and little else. And hey, bless his soul, if I could monetize a huge audience the same way you bet I would.
>That's literally what people were saying about Cyberfrog and huhhh we really didn't go through this massive 'paradigm shift' did we?
I still haven't seen a single page of cyberfrog.
Cybergfrog was never meant to be anything other than a comic on the market. The Rippaverse is intended to be a universe like Image, DC and Marvel.
But even it wasn't it's always a risk. Not every project succeeds. But once it does it's going to be over.
On a related note Eric is already contracting new artists to continue the project.
>But even it wasn't it's always a risk. Not every project succeeds.
When the project isn't about actually producing a product you're more insulated from failure.
>Cybergfrog was never meant to be anything other than a comic on the market. The Rippaverse is intended to be a universe like Image, DC and Marvel.
Everyone from CG "1.0" was saying they were well on their way to replacing Marvel and DC as the new hotness and make comics people actually want to read, but all they ever did was make the guys putting these things out rich because the people donating it like their opinions. And that's fine, but that's all it'll ever be and it's not really how they advertise their craft.
>Not every project succeeds. But once it does it's going to be over.
Well, if he legit is going to replace Marvel and DC, he only has to snag a countless amount of contracts that will give him the same playing field in the rights department as far as merchandising goes - because a huge chunk of maintaining big 2 "hegemony" as far as comics go is exactly brand awareness with a bunch of licensing deals going from food, action figures and mobile games. After these entry level ones are mostly done, then he has to hope to snag a place in animation and film. Kind of like Valiant has been trying to do but fumbling.
Provided that's at all plausible it should be interesting to see.
Cyberfrog kind of fascinates me
It's a title barely anyone has read yet gets so much money and dedication from its small group of fans
http://amphibionix.com/cyberfrog-demo-game/
It has a fansite and even a small fan game up online
Pic related is admittedly impressive looking cosplay
But when you really get down to it, its less about Cyberfrog and more about EVS' being a cult of personality to his followers. It's why out of the non Cyberfrog or Meyer stuff, the only big funder is Reignbow because its another one of Ethan's works
What the frick makes Rippaverse any different?
It's largely based on Rippa's popularity rather than his actual merit
>battletoadwithfetalalcoholsyndrome.jpg
>its less about Cyberfrog and more about EVS' being a cult of personality to his followers
Yeah, that's pretty much the same across the board for this stuff. It's not a 'grift' per se because people are giving money for these people because they like their opinions. It's their money, they know what they're doing with it. Any expectation beyond "I'm making this guy I like a ton of cash!" just seems like wishful thinking at best and a delusion at worst.
They're just going for a viable market. EVS' youtube channel itself was lingering in obscurity until he started doing anti-SJW Star Wars content.
When people called this a grift two days ago you guys said the comics were already made with his own money and there wouldn't be any crowdfunding. Now you're bragging about how much money was crowdfunded.
So if you were lying about the crowdfunding I have to assume the other stuff you told me, like how this wasn't going to be about politics, or how it was going to be about stuff other than capeshit, were also lies.
Anyone who uses the word "grift" is a troony.
Didn't read anything past that lol
>Dozens of videos from big name Youtubers
Like who?
>Dozens of videos from big name Youtubers talking about how it will save or destroy the comic industry as we know it
Clickbaiters aren't human
You literally said the same shit with CG years ago and that fizzled out hard
>a universe
WOW, I should be so impressed
A comic universe that isn't Marvel and DC how fricking novel
>WOW, I should be so impressed
How many comics have you published?
Didn't think so. Get back in line.
>Donatation
Well, I certainly hope the text in the comics proper have better proofreading than this
Give me one reason that be interested in this that isn't culture war shit. This guy looks as generic as they come.
A lot of jealousy in this thread.
Keep it classy Cinemaphile
We've seen this happen years ago with Cyberfrog and Jawbreakers
What makes you think this will be any different?
This is another dime a dozen capeshit universe aimed for people who don't even keep track of comics today to know there's more to the medium than just outragebait and capeshit
>Some other dude tried and failed therefore everyone will always fail! Only Marvel and DC can make money because they have legacy characters!
t.
I'm mostly an Imagegay
I want Marvel and DC to have competition
I want the variety of comics to be acknowledge more
I'm not a fricking idiot who thinks a single person is gonna serve as Marvel/DC's competition
Proper "competition" to Marvel or DC would require at least a dozen interconnected books releasing monthly, with nationwide distribution to comic stores. That'd require a gonzo amount of money.
I mean good luck to this guy for trying, but he's got a hell of an uphill battle.
Marvel and DC has been around for a 100 years. Rippa's project started just today.
Give Rippa some time.
It's not impossible to beat the Big 2.
What makes this different from early Image, Valiant, etc?
>What makes this different from early Image, Valiant, etc?
One owner, one vision.
Image and Valiant were formed by whole groups of industry talent/management trying to create a third option based on their love of comics and trying to get free of their stifling company overlords.
This seems more like....a guy trying to make political hash?
The problem with image was that it was too divided among various creative teams with their own creative visions and plans that put the kibosh on any possibility of a marvel/dc style connected universe pretty early on. The closest we got was Kirkmans Invincible Universe and he wrapped that up pretty definitively .
Yes, but the interconnectedness of X-Men and Batman are what bring those comics, the most popular and profitable of their respective companies, down the shitter.
Neither benefits from exposure to their larger comic universe. Superman and Flash existing across the way from Bruce's one-man battle against his demons trivializes it. X-Men being hounded by a crazed anti-superhuman society makes no sense in an Avengers/FF universe.
Invincible really got no benefit at all from Spawn or Pitt or any of the rest, it's success is 100% on it's own merits.
The MCU dovetails together decently BECAUSE they have no mutant haet, and because they nerfed a lot of the crazy stuff at the onset.
Both Image and Valiant were started by groups of people that had experience in either comics, editing, or publishing.
>early Image
Dunno... Tell me Anon, ever heard about Erik Larsen, Jim Lee, Rob Liefeld, Todd McFarlane, Whilce Portacio, Marc Silvestri or Jim Valentino?
You're misunderstanding what I meant
Rippaverse is literally nothing we haven't already seen before
I don't think it's a flop but it's certainly overhyped
>I want Marvel and DC to have competition
Does Valiant still exist?
Surprisingly yes
Is the comic actually good? If its just to "own the libs" then I don't see the point of paying for overpriced toilet paper.
Call me paranoid, but somehow I feel like they won't keep their promise to "avoid divisive politics"
I am all for DC and Marvel getting some real competition and all but this looks like shit. Imagine reading that poorly written synopsis and donating $40+ without any of the anti-SJW shit attached.
>getting some real competition
Just read creator owned ffs
Image, Boom, IDW, Dynamite, Dark Horse, etc
It's not perfect but damn it you can actually find good shit if you actually bothered to check
>not a single post about the art
>not a single post about the story
>not a single post about the characters
>just endless "This is what a cultural revolution looks like NERDS RISE UP #MAGA #WeAreComing"
It's not like every other CG-adjacent thread was like this.
Wait, they were. Every last one of them.
to be honest, rippa didn't really focus on the art, story and character.
God willing, this is just Grift #1,344 perpetrated on the rube Right-o-sphere.
They seem endlessly susceptible to this sales pitch.
Because they are all about grievance and the con-men know how to work them.
As a comic fan I'd rather waste my money on a grift than support the Big 2.
Or don't be a moron and waste money on any of them? You're a brand prostitute just like the rest of them, just for a different brand.
Or you could just burn your money.
Why don't you just not waste money on anything?
Just go read some other comics that you actually like you dumb Black person.
It isn't a binary choice between Marvel and DC's cuckshit and right wing grifter homosexualry.
If this crashes and burns what will be your main cope?
All big projects had humble beginnings.
Hopefully Rippa breaks through the mold and carves the future for comic books.
homie amazon started with a 100k angel investment from bezos' parents.
>homie amazon started with a 100k angel investment from bezos' parents.
And Rippa doesn't have that money?
Bezos also didn't start his company right before the USA was due to go through unprecedented inflation and the biggest economic recession in almost two centuries.
He's not literally not doing anything different that hasn't been done before
>another grift
You guys still fall for these?
>>Sets $100,000 campaign goal
$600,000 in a day
>"lmao it's a flop"
What has this man done to make leftists hate him so?
Leftists don't care Anon. They really don't. You can raise a quarter million dollars building a house for your pet pig. The internet is like that.
What rags off the Far Right is that liberalism HAS created a field where everyone's voices can be heard. You can't make illegal threats of violence or libel or slander, but short of that it's pretty easy for everyone to get their voices heard across media. The crazy-Right does NOT like that. They hate people being exposed to a variety of ideas, it's against everything Conservatism stands for (it's in the name!).
So we do all this victiim-drama "Conservative voices being drowned out of comics!" and then they make their OWN comics, and lo it is actually easy to do on this self-publish playing field, and it sorta deflates the whole idea of them being oppressed. A dozen of these guys could easily get together and sell millions in comics. But honestly that's not their first intent or desire. Their first desire is to fite the Libs.
All the shit over Twatter is a bare-naked attempt to quash the 1st Amendment once and fo all, because it really upsets the Far Right.
This is pure leftycuck projection.
You clearly don't see the trap being set here:
1. Twitter is unfair to Conservatives (laughable because Twitter is awash with them.
2. "Fairness needs to be enforced on Twitter
3. Who enforces rules on companies? Government.
4. Government is now in charge of regulating speech.
5. Win elections
6. Checkmate, freedom.
A dude had to suffer a years-long legal battle because he made a joke about his dog being a Nazi. The encroachment on freedom of speech is real, and don't act like the left doesn't have its own cadre of people whose first desire is to "fite the rite".
You're being a disingenuous cur, and I for one, do not care for it.
No one has EVER claimed the Left don't have their share of wing-nuts. They are exactly as annoying. I don't know the details of his Nazi-dog legal battle, so I can't say for sure if this is hyperbole or not.
And there's nothing wrong with a War of Ideas. Liberalism is what makes that even possible.
Conservatism locks everything down into inarguable rules, every time.
No, you're thinking of leftists.
Any place that allows free speech always becomes right wing.
We don't need to censor your views, because your views are fricking moronic and can't stand up to the most minute amount of scrutiny.
>Any place that allows free speech always becomes right wing.
Literally every example in the world contradicts this upside-down view. You go anywhere in the world with strict censorship, it's always strict authoritarianism based on "our traditional values".
Except you're wrong about everything, the places with the most oppressive laws against free speech are leftist European shitholes.
Also, the janitor will never be a real woman, and all trannies will be violently exterminated.
>the places with the most oppressive laws against free speech are leftist European shitholes.
Where do you get this fact-free mindset from?
People get 15 in the Gulag for saying "Putin is a Fink".
Some tourist kid got tortured to death for taking down a Kim Jong Un poster.
What an incredible dipshit you are. I blame the schools and the internet.
Yes, the leftist countries you listed further prove my point.
>So we do all this victiim-drama "Conservative voices being drowned out of comics!" and then they make their OWN comics, and lo it is actually easy to do on this self-publish playing field, and it sorta deflates the whole idea of them being oppressed.
>getting pushed out of every institution and having to rely on ramshackle crowdsourcing akshually proves the system ISN'T rigged against them guys!
>getting pushed out of every institution
Purest victim-hyperbole. I thought you guys laughed at the idea of systemic-oppression. You sound like the Blacks you've mocked for generations. "BUT NOW OPPRESSON IS REALZ!".
You aren't being stopped from anything. You don't have a free pass to use private institutions to forward your (aggrieved) stances, when they don't agree with them. Same as you can't Hail Satan in your local Baptist Church. If "Liberals" have created wildly successful and far-reaching institutions, that's to their credit. They aren't required to give you Gibs and help your lazy ass up.
Congrats Anon, now you are The Naggers.
>I thought you guys laughed at the idea of systemic-oppression.
We laugh at the idea that every black junkie thug getting rightfully capped is systemic oppression yet all media constantly saying white people are evil racists who need to be replaced isn't.
>You aren't being stopped from anything. You don't have a free pass to use private institutions to forward your (aggrieved) stances, when they don't agree with them.
They don't have a free pass to destroy the careers of anyone they disagree with. Don't pretend you care about le free speech when you back gov. lobbied big tech vermin.
>"Liberals" have created wildly successful and far-reaching institutions, that's to their credit. They aren't required to give you Gibs and help your lazy ass up.
Liberals didn't create shit, they infiltrated and subverted all the institutions made by people who'd be considered far-right today.
this is either laundering or a black millionaire got involved.
And that is what gets you put off Twatter, because it's against their very clear rules.
But that's not some global conspiracy against Freedom of Speech, that's just being civil.
Twitter doesn't have rules, they have leftist activists, which is why I don't use twitter.
>Twitter doesn't have rules, they have leftist activists, which is why I don't use twitter.
Twitter is just another big Social Media shithole, like all the rest. It's just immensely popular.
If it WERE a meanie to the Right, and the Right was "at least half" of the country, there'd be "Alterna-Twitter" and it would be full of people like yourself. It's not as if Twitter is based on some arcane technology, it's not as if Venture Capitalism is hard to accomplish in current year.
>there'd be "Alterna-Twitter"
There's several wannabe Twitter social media out there, tailor made for conservatives. And even those have all kinds of arbitrary rules. One place doesn't allow posting pictures of poop. Trump's twitter clone service doesn't allow you to criticize Trump. Etc.
>no discussion about comic's art, story, themes
>just morons failing to explain why the grifter is not a grifter
Did you really expect anything else?
>It won't make any money!
- $600,000 first day...
>It's a scam!
It's going to be one of these ones isn't?
Each of these unsubstantiated counterargument will have to be pealed down one by one just for a new rumor to pop up.
I thought Cinemaphile was in support of the creativity and innovation of the indie industry, but no, they want their gay Icemen and Supermen.
Bad news Mousesisters and DCLBGT+ he just hit $600k and it's not even over yet!