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We don't.
Sucks cause I liked the movie quite a bit.
There's only so much that Poos and your fellow shit-eaters can do to make a movie successful.
First, gain Speedforce
Second run backwards in time
Third fix DC, but frick everything up and it turns out awful
Currently I'm at step 4 and don't know how to proceed.
In film? We don't. Flash is dead. Gunn's comments on Superman's psychology (namely that Superman is "literally him" and "Superman and Clark are two different people") don't inspire confidence. The decision to make GL a True Detective style story instead of blowing open the DC cosmology is a waste as well. And Christina Hodson (writer of The Flash) in the writer's room for the DCU isn't a great sign either.
Reeves Batman will survive though. Once again all responsibility will fall on the Bat. Because he can take it.
>Because he can take it.
Can he tho? Batman couldn't save the Flash from bombing.
In the short term? You don't. there was a time for course correction, and instead WB took every opportunity to over-commit to a bad investment, double down, and try to power through it. For years. At this point the brand is so thoroughly tainted that there is no solution but to wait for the stink to fade.
The 'fix' for DC right now is to make exactly zero DC movies for a solid decade. Not 'no DCEU movies', not 'okay, lets do a spinoff instead'. None. No DC movies at all. Yes that means no Batman films either, just fricking STOP.
Then, once there has been a chance for absence to make the heart grow fonder, you start making DC movies again that go back to basics and tell the normal version of these character with a focus on character investment and story. In short, just make good films about character that people want to see move of, not advertisements for what you promised to your investors or fricking bizarre off-tone frankenstein projects where you try to see how many classic storylines you can butcher in an hour.
Problem is there's doubt that Dc and WB will even be a thing in a decade, especially with Zaslav burning everything to the ground.
unless it's bought by Disney, whoever buys it will probably keep the brands around
>over-commit to a bad investment, double down, and try to power through it.
They did no such thing. Immediately after the first wonder woman WB did a complete 180. Turns out no one wants an MCU knockoff when the original is still going.
That's how scapegoats work.
God nobody likes Mandawala
And people will still find a way to blame Snyder.
Snyder is ultimately responsible for Ezra being cast as the Flash at all, his films defined Flash's characterization in his first appearances, and the events of the story are mired in Synder's Man of Steel, so yes this shit movie is still indirectly a result of Synder's actions. Synder didn't work on The Flash, but it still carries his stink.
Snyder's not at fault for it at this point because people aren't criticizing Ezra Miller's performance or the Man of Steel stuff. There was genuine hype about Zod and Faora returning, Keaton too, but get real, the fan-service in this was soulless as frick, the SFX was terrible. I don't even like NWH that much but it felt much more respectful as a celebration of those movies.
Batman v Superman's opening day was higher than Civil War's. If the movie was even halfway decent it would have made 1 billion without even trying. IF it was halfway decent.
Unfortunately, it wasn't.
Also, Flash's Cinemascore is the same as BvS's. So this is probably not the thread you want to bring this up in.
who cast Ezra Miller?
GOOD MORNING SIRS
I think there is no way to fix this. I love DC with all my heart, but it's time to admit that its characters and themes are simply outdated for modern audiences. They just don't resonate with people like they used to. It's sad.
I think they should mine for capeshit characters
Do another genre like horror or fantasy or something
The problem is that the majority of DC's main IP is nearing a century old. Culture has move on, and by and large DC's cast has not moved with it. These characters need to change with the times, and with few exceptions DC's attempts to do so even in the comics have been poorly done, hamfisted affairs. These character don't need to be slightly tweaked, or given a new spin. they need to be reinvented from their starting concept.
A modern Superman would be something like this normal guy who has all of these powers, and genuinely wants to help the world as much as he can... but he doesn't know *how*. He can apply overwhelming brute force to any problem, but that doesn't mean that overwhelming brute force is the right solution. His story is one of humanity in the face of seeming unsolvable problems, the difficulty of what it means to try to do good, and the optimism that drives someone to keep trying to help people even after personal failures.
The point is, there was a time when "have good guy, they punch bad guy, everyone claps" was all we needed from heroes. And thats not true anymore. Defending the status quo is not, in and of itself, seen as an inherently good act anymore. We need our heroes, especially our superheroes, to be held to a higher standard than that.
>The point is, there was a time when "have good guy, they punch bad guy, everyone claps" was all we needed from heroes. And thats not true anymore. Defending the status quo is not, in and of itself, seen as an inherently good act anymore. We need our heroes, especially our superheroes, to be held to a higher standard than that.
Spoken like a Peak Midwit.
If you have an argument, make it.
I don't.
Good, because you don't need an argument against midwits to win against one
>A modern Superman would be something like this normal guy who has all of these powers, and genuinely wants to help the world as much as he can... but he doesn't know *how*. He can apply overwhelming brute force to any problem, but that doesn't mean that overwhelming brute force is the right solution.
So... Superman? Brother you need to open a book some time. It has pictures, don't worry.
Comics give Supes a constant stream of world-ending threats that he can punch int he face to achieve victory, such that the audience never has to feel like Superman is lacking problems he can solve. That is entirely different from what anon is describing, and if you can't tell the difference that just means you don't understand what he's saying.
The only people who complain about Superman only punching things are people who haven't read Superman in their life. There are plenty of challenges he faces that don't involve fighting or actively punish him for trying to take that route.
I think the real problem is that there are enough artist interpretations of Superman that you could literally spend ten years watching/reading Superman shit, and you could either come away with:
>"Wow, I like how sometimes Clark has to use his brain to solve problems"
or
>"Meh, Superman is always just punching shit. Who cares."
DC bots aren't legion, they're just loud.
>How do we fix DC?
Make only Batman movies
It's Joeover, the Batchads won.
It's called DC -- DETECTIVE COMICS -- therefore you should only make Batman movies.
I would rather watch trash like Black Adam, than an endless barrage of movies about an angry homosexual who beats criminals at night.
Recast Ezra, make him fight all his rogue gallery instead of a shittier-than-tv-crossovers Flashpoint for the third time, and make scenes like this and it would be insta-kino
IKARIS NOOO!!!
Fire King and Benis, hire editors, get a rough planning for what stories they actually want to tell and publish something other than Batman rehashes.
Superheroes don't work in live action.
Actors can't keep shape, they get old, they don't want to keep the mask on all the time, action scenes cost too much so you KNOW the movie will not have much of it and there will be a lot of "jokes" to fill the quota. Too many concepts that are acceptable or even basic in comics are completely breaking for willingly suspension of disbelief in movies.
The greatest superhero movies managed to be good in other genres in a stealth way to avoid failure -- Raimi's Spider-Man is a coming-of-age romance with plenty of comedy and wholesome, Netflix's Daredevil is a courtroom drama/crime story, Reeves Batman is just Se7en with extra steps and even Nolan's Batman is in the weakest at superheroic scenes (Batman fighting scenes in those movies are just the worst). Even Watchmen and The Boys work well only in NOT being superheroic, but questioning politics, media, etc.
The whole point of superheroes is the innocence and simple morals, the colorful thematic and impractical costume, the flamboyant swashbuckling name, posing and catchphrases, the ludicrous superpowers or supergadgets, the idealized setting and SHORT stories.
The longer you stay, the longer you think about it, the whole thing crumbles.
Make good stories
Just copy the mcu but don’t let any females have major roles like back in the old days.
Just do a hard reboot. Drop EVERYTHING from the continuity and start fresh.
>Thinking Warner will adopt quality writing when the fans are content with shit writing
Yep. Then do this
>manages to create a movie with a plot that is worse than NWH with the exception that the cameos have no impact at all in the story
wow so much for the best capeshit movie since TDK.
Did you go watch the movie today because you sound like a homosexual I had in the theater with me today? Why the frick is NWH being compared?
>Did you go watch the movie today because you sound like a homosexual I had in the theater with me today?
No i usually don't stay in the same room with a moron, which you clearly are if you can't understand why those movie are being compared to each other.
Yeah they should reboot the comics to scratch. Start fresh.
A first Superman movie needs to be action packed while being inspiring as frick. You can’t have one, you need both. You can’t adapt some boring shit the first time out and expect people to care.
Are you assuming that anything that is not action-packed is boring?
It will be to the movie going audience. That’s why they attached that action shit at the end of The Batman. It felt tacked on but people got to see Batman punching stuff for a bit.
Well look at Superman Returns.
Saw it just now, I didn't hate it as much as I thought I would, but I don't think it's a good movie either. There were some funny parts, but that's the only plus I can give. The CGI was ATTROCIOUS, possibly the worst I've seen in a film in a long time. The plot was dumb as hell, and that entire fan service scene was horrendous.
>and that entire fan service scene was horrendous
You might have to be more specific, anon.
This is why the budget is not as high as people thought. They cut this movie off before it was truly polished up.
LIITYBROS WE FRICKING WON
>Superman
>Batman
>Wonder Woman
>The Flash
>Aquaman
>Green Lantern
>Martian Manhunter
>The Justice League.
That simple. That's literally how it happened in the comics. But Gunn isn't doing that for some reason.
>But Gunn isn't doing that for some reason.
Because he's not Snyder.
Marvel did it. And DC and Marvel did it in comics.
They don't want to do that because the characters are still fresh in people's minds. Cavill and Affleck have been gone for a long time in some ways from BvS/JL. That's why they'll just reboot those and maybe years down the road they touch Wonder Woman again.
>for some reason
Because WB want their cinematic universe yesterday, and have done since day one when they skipped solo Batman for a Man of Steel crossover.
I casted the SuperFamily
>How do we fix DC?
Just follow the comic books, being faithful to the costumes and attributes of each character:
Batman and Wonder Woman (bring the leotard, frick the MCU style), athletic actors who can do elaborate fight scenes and have of course a director who chooses correctly the actors
If they do it like the MCU, it won't work, Feige's woke formula doesn't work anymore.
BatFamily cast
Justice League Cast 1/2
>Wonder Woman
>Hawkgirl
>Power Girl
>Zatanna
>Vixen
>Batwoman
>Dove
>Supergirl
>Katana
Was it hard making these with one hand?
What's wrong with them
That's Superwoman, not Kara
God, you're telling me.
I dunno. It feels like you were just picturing what the actresses you chose would look like in leotards. Like, some of them are literally just models.
Some of them are models and actresses tho
OK, but c'mon, anon. You can't pretend these women are Oscar-winning thespians. Seems like they only got casted because they're hot.
But we don't need oscar winning actresses for every role.
>Justice League Cast 2/2
As a Flash fan I'm embarrassed this is the first film debut of the character. Show isn't much better but god dammit
This is actually Erza Miller trying to tell Ben Affleck to not talk to Zack Snyder.
I wrote things that a non heroflix person read about what I did with six characters in DC.
I made her cry over superman. "I want more of this"
I made her go "so fricking cool" over green lantern. Super included LGBQ+ without making GL not-straight.
She smiled reading about half of the wondy stuff.(Made the harry potter fan in her glee)
She likes books and it takes me a while to get inspiration but I have the themes of these three down. Doughnutsteel though, not sharing.
Most writers worth their salt in ideas get their shit stolen so the good stuff never hits the silver screen. smileyface.jpg
DC Villans cast
Teen Titans cast
Whoops, forgot the pic
Okay you are just jerking off now...
No, I'm serious!
You found a pic to use with Viola Davis' breasts out, you were horny, bro. Kat Dennings and Alina Becker, come on.
They're all great actresses!
Viola Davis sure but come on...
All great!
I want you to jerk off real quick and come back.
I don't need to do that! But I will leave now to make MORE fancasts! Look forward to it!
I will, some of the casting is fricking great in my opinion.
Brec is truly best girl
Young Justice cast
>get a Time Machine
>go back in time
>tell WB to stop making capeshit after BvS came out
the end. By that point it was over, it was never going to be a success. For every Aquaman or Wonder Woman they pumped out nothing but flops, I don't see why they would keep pissing away money.
Just take a 5 year break and try again with something less awful
Go back further and tell WB not to hire Snyder at all. He kneecapped the universe.
I honestly think WB/DC should revive their animation studios and go into making high-budget animated films as it is sort of a stagnant market as of late. Live-action has too many cogs you have to keep in check to pull off.
Warner Bros. Pictures Animation and Warner Bros. Animation handle DC animation
Yeah, those. They should pump some more money and resources into them and make something bombastic that isn't Justice League for the hundredth time.