So what are the odds of DC Comics being dismantled to help deal with Warner Bros debts?
Comics are not very profitable.
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So what are the odds of DC Comics being dismantled to help deal with Warner Bros debts?
Comics are not very profitable.
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Unlikely. Comics are IP farms and cost next to nothing to make even if they don't sell well
Have you seem the absolute disaster that the mcu phase 4 has been?
All modern ip and stories. All hated by mormies.
WB doesn't need it and it's been proven that modern stories are total shit
In no sensible universe will any sane business give up the rights to Batman, the second most popular superhero in the world who rakes in billions in merchandise
Do you honestly believe they need the fricking trashcan comics to keep the batman IP?
Have you seen the King shit?
homie I would shit can the entire fricking comics division if there was even a chance that shit stories like that would harm my billion dollar IP.
You need the DC universe to have the other capes for Batman to playoff and Superman, while not as popular as Batman, also is too valuable of an IP
Superman is not popular because the comics are written by scumbags and cowards.
WB is ran by objectively evil out of touch people.
Superman. can never be good when mot written by the right people. And modern comic creative are not the right people.
Jon is a homosexual and Damian is a rape baby.
You don't need a comic book company up and running to own any of these IPs.
>all hated by normies
Outrage Youtubers aren't normies
Tired,fatigued,disinterested maybe but Phase 4 was never going to do well after End Game and the conclusion of 10+ years of movies. MCU is still making a shit ton of money.
You people are so desperate for the downfall of the MCU you'll take any little bit of bumps in the road and make them look bigger then they really are
>Comics are IP farms
>They are IP farms
where did you guys read this bullshit and are you bots
I mean why else would they keep them going while obviously caring as little as they do about their quality?
>Comics are not very profitable.
They are IP farms and the money they make from various media and merchandise more than makes up for it.
Batgirl got cancelled, they're a money loss at this point.
Thew amount of money that goes into production might get covered, but the money that goes into PR and marketing isn't.
Do you know how many movies from any genre have cost millions? Lone Ranger and John Carter of Mars cost Disney more than multiple Batgirl movies and those came out. That's not a Marvel vs DC statement, I'm just listing a couple movie flops that cost hundreds of millions of dollars.
But they aren't part of a multimulti billion dollar IP that DEPENDS in the IP being seen as good in the eyes of normies
homie. Flashpoint is fricking canned.
Stop focusing on just live action movies and a corporate shakeup.
>normies
Because the movie stunk and a bad movie is extremely harmful to a brand. Just ask Green Lantern
Batgirl was HBO Max exclusive, it was not going to ruin any branding.
this is true for Marvel but not for DC
We saw this proven positive during the AT&T merget when Jim Lee said they used to be able to operate at a loss because it wasn't important to make money and big books like batman subsidized books that don't make money
Now operating at a loss will probably kill DC for good
Especially under the new regime
Outside of miles morales..Morales.
Cab you name a single new ip or story created in the last 20 years that gas any damned potential as a cartoon, to show, or movie
A super-sons anime would be nice.
Considering MCU is adapting characters and storylines from as late as 2012 for its comics... yes? What kind of question is this
DC isn't really worth enough to settle these kinds of debts.
They could sell the Batman IP to Sony I suppose but then they'd have to discontinue all of DC because Batman (and related IP:s) makes up 60% of their sales.
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I do however have optimism this might lead to some premiere hirings to try and bring a prestigious air back to DC
I've heard comics are dirt cheap
Extremely high.
DC Superheroes are worth more as movies, cartoons, toys, video games, school supplies, clothing, and theme park attractions than as floppy comic books
HOWEVER there is more value in graphic novels than floppies
I can't see them justifying the cost of floppies but I think GNs for Kids, YA and Adults will continue
>DC Superheroes are worth more as movies, cartoons, toys, video games, school supplies, clothing, and theme park attractions than as floppy comic books
>HOWEVER there is more value in graphic novels than floppies
>I can't see them justifying the cost of floppies but I think GNs for Kids, YA and Adults will continue
Frankly, a DC that produces nothing but those Elseworlds aimed at kids/teens, might as not exist as far I'm concerned. We have no interest in shit like Gotham High, Starfire's overweight goth daughter, or Illegal immigrant Jessica Cruz with Aztec powers.
The DC universe and characters as we know and like them would be dead.
Batman alone keeps DC Comics afloat, be it through digital, physical, movies, etc. Comics are also great for looking for that potential next hit. The backlash to killing DC comics would be so massive, Discovery would go under. Zaslav would be fired instantly due to the negative publicity. It'd be a blood bath.
Manga has been outselling even trades for a while. The future of american comics is embracing the Manga model: a single writer created story with nearly full creative control, movie synergy by damned. Marvel's embraced it with at least Deadpool with a japanese writer at the helm and its way better than most Deadpool books I've read.
Comics aren't profitable due to woke stories. Remember Marvel in the wake of GG? It went all in on that narrative, and it nearly collapsed Marvel's comic reputation, and everyone decided to just read Manga instead, especially younger readers, who get lectured to in school, at home on TV, in the media, and even online. They are tired of that shit. Anyone would.
>Comics aren't profitable due to woke stories
Same to other media types. Don't believe for a second trash like Korra or Steven Universe are successes because they got more than two seasons. And people are starting to tire of shitty female led media like every cartoon Disney makes for the last ten years. Shit like Amphibia, Star, Molly, and Owl House are not popular.
This is true. Korra's story was overshadowed due to a lesbian kiss out of nowhere in the end for woke points. Steven Universe did everything possible to make its female characters strong, stunning, and braver than their weak male counter parts, something boys dislike in spades, even now. Meanwhile, Manga like Sailor Moon work because they know what they are. The male characters in those stories work because they are written like actual men. You're not going to see Usagi suddenly physically overpower Tuxedo Mask.
female led media isnt the problem. Kim possible, The Proud Family, Power Puff Girls, Miraculous LadyBug, Winx club, totally spies are all pretty well revered and were very popular.
What people dont want is woke female stuff where female characters are masculinized and used to sell some woke feminist agenda that nobody cares about.
When i watch tv, i dont wanna be preached to. I wanna be able to watch funny or relateable shows because they are funny and relateable. That So Raven managed to be a show about a black family and with a female lead and while it did have social justice themed episodes, they were few and far in between and when they appeared they meant something, it was a respected story. If That so Raven was made today, itd be filled with so much woke propaganda. Wouldnt be enjoyable.
The same can be said for Kim Pssible. She was a spy who happened to be a teenage girl. Thats the catch lol we need more of that.
Floppies cost nothing to make, the adds in them pays itself. All floppies are is basically monthly installments of the TPB. No reason to hold onto issues until you accumulate 6 when you can just sell it piecemeal.
Hopefully, sold to Carlos Slim.
Complete dismantling is unlikely. Might be stripped down to licensing house eventually, but not immediately.
The main argument reason I've seen for them not shutting down DC's in house publishing is that in all likely hood the cost for the license would be valued far above what any given indy company can afford to pay. I really don't see why they'd have to charge that much and not adjust the cost down to something an indy company could afford though.
I imagine we'll see something like Heroes Reborn or Marvel Knights where they experiment with licensing out some characters first, before going all in.
There's also the question, who exactly do you think should or would get the DC license in such a scenario, how many and what books they would make, would they actually be any7 significantly better than what DC is putting out.
Todd Mc Farlane might have the license to make DC toys, but comic wise his comic studio only publishes Spawn. The kind of work he'd need to do setting up the kind of operation to take over the DC floppy production is massive as he'd have to hire teams of editors, writers, and artists. Who is he going to get? Not mention Image is having that fight with their employees trying unionize.
OGN's I imagine would be licensed out to scholastic or some other mainstream kids/ya book publisher.
they will keep the ip for movies but stop doing comics themself and licencing to others publishers
you dont need a lot since you will mostly do batman harley quinn and superman
>you dont need a lot since you will mostly do batman harley quinn and superman
Not sounding like an improvement over current DC, where there are 13 ongoing Batbooks, and only 5 ongoing non Batbooks. In fact it sounds even worse.
yeah for the moment but then who knows what gonna happen in a year or two the comics brand is so bad that it gonna take to recover anyway
this , specaly when you own webtoon already
They may scale back, but I don't believe they'll remove it outright.
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People think that it'd be easy for WB to farm out 100% of DC to other comics companies but that could be a potentially logistical nightmare. They may farm out a few titles (sort of like how IDW had the Cartoon Network comics and Marvel and Star Wars kids' line comics for a while) but not all of it.
>muh ip farm
When's the last time DC published a good new idea? The Naomi show was cancelled.
Comics are not very profitable but are also dogshit cheap to mass produce. They can test ideas such as characters, storylines, and ideas to gauge interest and see what works before dropping blockbuster film budgets on anything, then license out rights to whatever gets popular.
If they permanently sell the rights to their major IPs, instead of continuing to license them out for profit, they are committing economic suicide.
>Comics are not very profitable but are also dogshit cheap to mass produce. They can test ideas such as characters, storylines, and ideas to gauge interest and see what works before dropping blockbuster film budgets on anything, then license out rights to whatever gets popular.
You can also do that - but even cheaper with web comics and 100 page anthologies for kids sold in wal mart
you don't need the 22 page comic book shop floppy to do this and you'll get a better ROI with digital & larger 100 page books sold in retail
Comics publishing are an IP farm for Disney-Marvel Studios. For Discovery-WB they are a legacy business. The publishing side of DC will be nuked within a year.
It will just exist as an entity with Discovery to license the IP (99% Batman) to video game companies, toy makers, etc maybe even comics publishing companies.
If you are interested in cost cutting there is no reason to keep an unprofitable publishing arm going. DC Comics will be dead within 12 months maybe 6.
I just want Supergirl public Domain so I can write a comic about her getting fat and make money off it.
Probably not.
Comics are not profitable because every logical story has been done for the popular characters. And even with the good stories, they're not canon. You can do basically anything with any character so there's no reason to care about what happens in a comic. You don't need a special event like Crisis on Infinite Earths to reboot or retcon anything.
The best thing that can happen to Batman is to become old enough to become public domain to force DC to make something new and copyright needs to become shorter like how it used to be.
It's not gonna happen, however if it did it'd be poetic. Benis came and destroyed DC.
The comics division wont be dismantled because A) Like everyone has said, they're IP farms, and B) The comics division is self sustaining, if not profiting, however scarcely.
>What a self-contained story does to a mfer
What will eventually happen to DC Comics under Warners Discovery is that they will shut down department and only publish collected reprints of certain number of characters such as Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Flash, Green Lantern etc.
For real world example of this you only have to look at Mad Magazine and see what they are doing to know that something similar is about to happen to DC comics.