Sorry I meant to post the Lor-Zod from Suicide Squad
8 months ago
Anonymous
I was just thinking about that because I was one of the few people who read that shitty book.
Anyway, I refuse to acknowledge that because it's not explained why he is older AT ALL, it made sense for him to be older in Future State (it's the future) but in the present it's not explained at all, it reeked of laziness to just have him older like in Future State for no reason, and he was quickly taken out anyway so it's not like he made a difference.
I just assume he's from an alternate dimension or future just like some of the other characters in that dumb book, but we'll have to wait until they acknowledge Zod's family again, maybe in his upcoming book? We'll see.
It's just another sign of creative exhaustion, writers have nowhere to take the title character's story so it's time to add a legacy/sidekick/teen tiddy version of the hero.
It is always 100% cringe and lazy.
No, and my reasoning is simple. The more versions and off-shoots you make of a given character, the less unique they are and the less they stand out.
If someone is the last member of their race, or got their powers through a specific set of events, and then you repeat this process it becomes less significant and unique.
In some cases, like the Green Lantern Corps, it makes sense because they're all space cops issued with the same weapon.
But to have 50 versions of the Flash is just lazy writing to me.
It's true. It's called over-saturation of the brand. You can't have too much of one thing lest people get tired of it and want none of it. Less IS more.
The Flash is not just Barry Allen and that's something you can't divorce from Barry Allen because Barry started out as a Flash Fanboy in the very first issue.
8 months ago
Anonymous
And? ALL adaptations featuring the character removed that element because it didn't matter.
8 months ago
Anonymous
And it means you're full of shit and only started paying attention to the Flash when the movie came out making you a huge casual.
I like them, it's fun seeing how many flavors and variations they can get out of the basic concept.
Sure some people seethe about it, but I can live with that.
That's a greater flaw of DC's "Family" concept, rather than a flaw of the characters themselves. I was in the middle of typing out a post saying that I dislike the DC concept of "Family == same powers" is really dumb, and it would be much more interesting if the family were heroes of varying degrees of powers/heroism that work together to save the day whenever necessary
A lot of high tier heroes end up getting large casts of characters so it's better to have them play a more active role than disappearing randomly. They can also be shipped off to teams or other places as a rep of their family. The people who complain about families probably don't realize that their favorite main hero already has a ton of stuff on their own and would have others involved anyway. And then the extras get put on other books or fill out big story arcs.
I hate the concept. It’s ruined every single fricking solo comic for the original 7 JL members (well aside from Martian Manhunter but only because he’s unpopular and generally doesn’t have a solo).
Only Twitter casuals who’ve never paid for a comic in their life enjoy the “-senpai” shit.
I'm thankful there aren't too many martians left aside from J'onn. His power set and personality are so unique that it would cheapen him out particularly bad if there's 50 other martians around.
That’s the complete opposite of truth you massive homosexual. Twittergays who don’t pay for comics are the ones they pander to with this diverse “family”.
You’re either baiting or trying to change a narrative to save your homosexual superhero family
I'm thankful there aren't too many martians left aside from J'onn. His power set and personality are so unique that it would cheapen him out particularly bad if there's 50 other martians around.
>well aside from Martian Manhunter but only because he’s unpopular and generally doesn’t have a solo).
Remember when Jemm Son of Saturn and the other Saturnians were J'onn's family?
There's still enough of a difference for me to prefer that approach, but ideally, J'onn is the last member of the race and he lost his wife and child who can't be replaced.
White Martians being a thing is fine since I view them more as Tyranids.
The average person prefers solo Batman. They think Robin's lame and gay and feel that he'd make Batman look lame and gay by association. That's why they changed him for Forever, or just leave him out for everything else. The cartoons don't count since those are for kids.
I don't mind Dick becoming Nightwing and Jason taking over, only to come back as Red Hood. But the rest are pointless and I never cared for Tim in particular. On paper he's the best Robin in terms of what a sidekick has to be, but at that point this concept was too oversaturated. Also, Damian became a thing too early. I think his story should've come at a later point in the series and Batman should've been older at that point.
Hot take: The Aquafamily is the most diverse dc family in terms of powers.
Arthur: Psychic powers
Mera:Hydrokinesis
Garth: Magic user
Tula:Military trained atlantean
Dolphin: Photokinesis
Jackson: Hydrokinesis with electric powers
I don't like the Bat family, especially when they tag along with other teams to fight cosmic level threats. I know this is comics but it makes little sense for batgirl to be fighting parademons and the like.
The Aquafamily also has a good amount of waifus
lawdy lawd I should check up on this family. Aquaman eating good.
Hawkman should have a big family too 🙂
They're about to introduce Hektor Hol, so it's the perfect time to bring back Northwind and Golden Eagle too.
And of course you have Carter, Shayera, and Kendra, it'd be perfect 🙂
Batfamily stops at Damian
The GL Corps stops at Kyle
Wonder Woman doesn't really work with a sidekick
All of Superman's sidekicks are pretty solid
Black Wally doesn't need to exist
FRICK IT
Make the Atoms a family too >Al Pratt >Ray Palmer >Adam Cray >Ryan Choi >Atom Smasher >Damage >Blue Jay from Earth 8 (he shrinks too)
Could use a chick or too tho...
Giganta is a villain so I don't see her being a long term member.
I feel like Bumblebee fits better as an exclusive part of the "Titans family".
Ladybug might work actually, and I always kinda thought it'd be neat to have Ray be a member of the JSA for a while.
Alternatively, they could also introduce an Earth Prime version of Atomica, one who isn't evil.
Did anyone else ask for Booster to get his own family too? >Booster Gold >Skeets >his assistant uhhh i think her name is Trixie >Goldstar >Supernova >Rip Hunter (and the Time Masters) >Waverider >Gold Beetle (there's obviously crossover with the Beetle Family)
I also think he adopted a girl at some point, so there's her too.
TED IS PART OF THE BEETLE FAMILY (THERE'S CROSSOVER) >Dan Garrett >Ted Kord >Jaime Reyes >Ted's sister >Jaime's family >The new beetle characters probably count >Gold Beetle
It's an awful concept. Sorry Otto, but your concept has been heavily bastardized.
Superhero families make for boring as shit comics that only brainrotted capeshitters would like.
I think it's okay to have a couple but too many and it just gets clogged. Every book doesn't need to be a team. Let the character breathe and be human and not constantly surrounded by other super people.
SuperKino
BRING CHRIS BACK IF YOU WON'T DEAGE JON
There's no Chris, just Lor-Zod.
They aged up Lor-Zod too
People are indeed older in the future, which is when that story takes place.
Sorry I meant to post the Lor-Zod from Suicide Squad
I was just thinking about that because I was one of the few people who read that shitty book.
Anyway, I refuse to acknowledge that because it's not explained why he is older AT ALL, it made sense for him to be older in Future State (it's the future) but in the present it's not explained at all, it reeked of laziness to just have him older like in Future State for no reason, and he was quickly taken out anyway so it's not like he made a difference.
I just assume he's from an alternate dimension or future just like some of the other characters in that dumb book, but we'll have to wait until they acknowledge Zod's family again, maybe in his upcoming book? We'll see.
Chris is now black shirt Superboy ACCEPT IT
She should be part of the Super-Family.
It's just another sign of creative exhaustion, writers have nowhere to take the title character's story so it's time to add a legacy/sidekick/teen tiddy version of the hero.
It is always 100% cringe and lazy.
Yes and anyone who complains is a fricking weirdo.
Like this fricking weirdo. Did you forget comics have existed way longer then you been reading them?
The GLC is the best family-team unit. Batgay and Superhomosexual are gay.
They're not a family, they're a squad. Lanterns are space cops.
The Corps is like a big family anon.
>hal & sinestro
>not bros
pick one
Sinestro's a bad guy.
The GLs are as much of a family as any other "group of heroes with similar power sets that care for each other even if they aren't actually related".
Anything can be a family.
Shitty gimmick
No, and my reasoning is simple. The more versions and off-shoots you make of a given character, the less unique they are and the less they stand out.
If someone is the last member of their race, or got their powers through a specific set of events, and then you repeat this process it becomes less significant and unique.
In some cases, like the Green Lantern Corps, it makes sense because they're all space cops issued with the same weapon.
But to have 50 versions of the Flash is just lazy writing to me.
Having so many speedsters makes it WAY less believable that the world isn't in perpetual peace. They can take shifts to make it happen.
>The more versions and off-shoots you make of a given character, the less unique they are and the less they stand out.
That's not true.
It's true. It's called over-saturation of the brand. You can't have too much of one thing lest people get tired of it and want none of it. Less IS more.
It's not true at all because the Flash Family is the brand and you don't seem to understand that.
The Flash is the brand. Barry Allen. The movie and shows weren't called "The Flash Family". It was "The Flash". Only nerds care about the family.
The Flash is not just Barry Allen and that's something you can't divorce from Barry Allen because Barry started out as a Flash Fanboy in the very first issue.
And? ALL adaptations featuring the character removed that element because it didn't matter.
And it means you're full of shit and only started paying attention to the Flash when the movie came out making you a huge casual.
It's funny you say this when the Flash TV show went all in on putting a dozen speedsters all over.
And that's when the show started to suck hard.
It is to me. Especially if a character's circumstances are particularly unique.
Even if things are one in a million chance that still means it happens to dozens of people.
>no reasoning
Emotional Twitter dyke detected
I like them, it's fun seeing how many flavors and variations they can get out of the basic concept.
Sure some people seethe about it, but I can live with that.
the batfamily is good, if misused, and the GLs aren't really a family.
none of the others have any reason to expand beyond their first few members.
I think the Flash Family is the best family, perfectly.
Why?
If I wanted a dysfunctional family, I'd visit my parents.
Why does Barry's family need to be speedsters? Wouldn't having a non-powered family ground him?
Iris is his lightning rod for a reason.
That's a greater flaw of DC's "Family" concept, rather than a flaw of the characters themselves. I was in the middle of typing out a post saying that I dislike the DC concept of "Family == same powers" is really dumb, and it would be much more interesting if the family were heroes of varying degrees of powers/heroism that work together to save the day whenever necessary
Plesse anon for the love of god fix your brain because you're been rotted out the content algorithm.
Did you watch CW Flash? Because that's how you get CW Flash
A lot of high tier heroes end up getting large casts of characters so it's better to have them play a more active role than disappearing randomly. They can also be shipped off to teams or other places as a rep of their family. The people who complain about families probably don't realize that their favorite main hero already has a ton of stuff on their own and would have others involved anyway. And then the extras get put on other books or fill out big story arcs.
I hate the concept. It’s ruined every single fricking solo comic for the original 7 JL members (well aside from Martian Manhunter but only because he’s unpopular and generally doesn’t have a solo).
Only Twitter casuals who’ve never paid for a comic in their life enjoy the “-senpai” shit.
I'm thankful there aren't too many martians left aside from J'onn. His power set and personality are so unique that it would cheapen him out particularly bad if there's 50 other martians around.
That's hilarious to hear you call other people twitter casuals when this whole I hate Superhero families is a twitter take.
That’s the complete opposite of truth you massive homosexual. Twittergays who don’t pay for comics are the ones they pander to with this diverse “family”.
You’re either baiting or trying to change a narrative to save your homosexual superhero family
>well aside from Martian Manhunter but only because he’s unpopular and generally doesn’t have a solo).
Remember when Jemm Son of Saturn and the other Saturnians were J'onn's family?
Yeah and I didn't care for that but at least he was from Saturn which differentiated him.
Saturnians were descendants/clones of Martians
There's still enough of a difference for me to prefer that approach, but ideally, J'onn is the last member of the race and he lost his wife and child who can't be replaced.
White Martians being a thing is fine since I view them more as Tyranids.
I mean, Miss Martian exists.
Which still isn't on the same level as 59 kryptonians and 62 flashes.
Miss Martian is a White pretending to be Green
>he was from Saturn which differentiated him.
He was literally the same shit.
Flash because he always been the most about family, and his seem to be the chills
The average person prefers solo Batman. They think Robin's lame and gay and feel that he'd make Batman look lame and gay by association. That's why they changed him for Forever, or just leave him out for everything else. The cartoons don't count since those are for kids.
Hi Jim Starlin, you're comics suck.
I don't mind Dick becoming Nightwing and Jason taking over, only to come back as Red Hood. But the rest are pointless and I never cared for Tim in particular. On paper he's the best Robin in terms of what a sidekick has to be, but at that point this concept was too oversaturated. Also, Damian became a thing too early. I think his story should've come at a later point in the series and Batman should've been older at that point.
Hot take: The Aquafamily is the most diverse dc family in terms of powers.
Arthur: Psychic powers
Mera:Hydrokinesis
Garth: Magic user
Tula:Military trained atlantean
Dolphin: Photokinesis
Jackson: Hydrokinesis with electric powers
Why the frick doesn't Aquaman have water powers? He's AQUAman.
Garth is also Hydrokinesis
The Aquafamily also has a good amount of waifus
I don't like the Bat family, especially when they tag along with other teams to fight cosmic level threats. I know this is comics but it makes little sense for batgirl to be fighting parademons and the like.
lawdy lawd I should check up on this family. Aquaman eating good.
>electric powers
of fricking course
Hawkman should have a big family too 🙂
They're about to introduce Hektor Hol, so it's the perfect time to bring back Northwind and Golden Eagle too.
And of course you have Carter, Shayera, and Kendra, it'd be perfect 🙂
Gee, that mask sure looks familiar.
Hawkman and Hawkgirl should be the only part of this family.
Super and Flash family.
Batfamily stops at Damian
The GL Corps stops at Kyle
Wonder Woman doesn't really work with a sidekick
All of Superman's sidekicks are pretty solid
Black Wally doesn't need to exist
Paul kaminski should kill himself
FRICK IT
Make the Atoms a family too
>Al Pratt
>Ray Palmer
>Adam Cray
>Ryan Choi
>Atom Smasher
>Damage
>Blue Jay from Earth 8 (he shrinks too)
Could use a chick or too tho...
Giganta
Bumblebee
Ladybug from Geoff Johns Lost Generation
Giganta is a villain so I don't see her being a long term member.
I feel like Bumblebee fits better as an exclusive part of the "Titans family".
Ladybug might work actually, and I always kinda thought it'd be neat to have Ray be a member of the JSA for a while.
Alternatively, they could also introduce an Earth Prime version of Atomica, one who isn't evil.
Did anyone else ask for Booster to get his own family too?
>Booster Gold
>Skeets
>his assistant uhhh i think her name is Trixie
>Goldstar
>Supernova
>Rip Hunter (and the Time Masters)
>Waverider
>Gold Beetle (there's obviously crossover with the Beetle Family)
I also think he adopted a girl at some point, so there's her too.
Nope. I like teams of different variations but themed families just rubs me the wrong way.
THAT WAS A RETHORIC QUESTION ANON
BOOSTER GETS NOT ONE BUT 2 FAMILIES BECAUSE THERE'S CROSSOVER WITH THE BEETLES
EVERYONE GETS FAMILIES
WHERE'S TED butthole
TED IS PART OF THE BEETLE FAMILY (THERE'S CROSSOVER)
>Dan Garrett
>Ted Kord
>Jaime Reyes
>Ted's sister
>Jaime's family
>The new beetle characters probably count
>Gold Beetle
OH AND ALSO SPARKY
AND THIS b***h
NO IDEA WHO SHE IS
BUT SHE SHOULD COME BACK AND JOIN THE FAMILY
It's an awful concept. Sorry Otto, but your concept has been heavily bastardized.
Superhero families make for boring as shit comics that only brainrotted capeshitters would like.
I think it's okay to have a couple but too many and it just gets clogged. Every book doesn't need to be a team. Let the character breathe and be human and not constantly surrounded by other super people.
>Who is your favorite?
Aquafamily
Sure