Nah, just return Jason to a moronic villain, leave Tim with Young Justice, Dick with his own b***hes (as he has been for about 40 years) and Damian only in Batman and Robin, so it's easy to avoid.
Dick 100% has his own life and villains; he's an established superhero in his own right and shouldn't have to always be running home to huff Bruce's farts.
Red Hood should go back to basically being "The Batman who Kills" and take the place of "villain that Batman autistically keeps from other people from trying to kill" from Joker.
Tim should just be the Teen Titans/Young Justice Robin. Being Red Robin and doing detective work was fine.
Damien is fine as "The Robin who is basically a tiny Batman".
If it weren't for the fact that we're still stuck in both the Event Era of Comics and "Batman is Unbeatable" era, I'd say that the Batfamily should only come together when Bruce can't take on something by himself.
Dick's Titans are literally just the Justice League with out calling themselves the Justice League at this point. I'm talking about how Tim was in the post-One Year Later era of Teen Titans.
honestly can't think of many beyond dumb editorial tampering/nonsense and if we get into that game then we might as well burn down all of DC
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
All he ever did was be boring. Initially he was interesting because he actually had a family and a life and now he’s just… there
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The existence of Tim Drake and DC's desperation to keep him relevant ruined Dick for over a decade.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
True. Does he even still have fans?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
explain
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You guys are more angry about shit that A)Tim Drake and also hated and B)wasn't anything close to Jason almost taking over the Nightwing mantle and killing off Dick.
>Tim should just be the Teen Titans/Young Justice Robin. Being Red Robin and doing detective work was fine.
Stop trying to make Tim work. He's completely redundant with the others around. He's the worst Robin due to being the boring one.
That's literally why they said to slap him onto the teen superhero team. Robin has always been a main member of the team, but Dick and Jason are too old and Damien doesn't play well with others.
>Damien doesn't play well with others.
Then make him play with others. Tony Stark was describes as not being able to play with others yet, he's an Avengers mainstay. Same with Batman sometimes.
>characterization >DC
If being a jerk is a personality then so is being a goody-two-shoes. They're both wasp and smug buttholes that are better than everyone, much like Bruce.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Damian >WASP
Pick one
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don't need to .He very much is considering how he reject his "exotic" lineage and he's a tiny Bruce with green eyes..
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He's genetic mystery meat raised in the Middle East. He looks the least like Bruce when compared to Dick, Jason and Tim despite being his biological son.
Frick off with this.
We're not suppose to talk about ANYTHING Tim did in the 90s to reinforce that he's always been a worthless gay boy that literally no one liked.
>Red Hood should go back to basically being "The Batman who Kills" and take the place of "villain that Batman autistically keeps from other people from trying to kill" from Joker.
It’s the most obvious thing in the world and would fix everything that makes him so shit today and yet they just won’t do it. Why? Everything before and after UTRH was laying it out and then they just drop it kek. What was the point of bringing him back like that just to ruin what made him unique and actually interesting? Now he’s just Dick but edgy and the “black sheep.”
>Batman tracking down and killing gansters like he did in the 30s is now "boring"
Bring back some of Batman's more notorious mob-era villains and having Jason cut a bloody path through Gotham to permanently rid the city of them sounds like an awesome fricking book.
Because there were only a handful of notable mobster stories early on, it's why they had him fight vampires and monster men like 5 issues in.
Besides, Huntress already cleared the Mafia, and she can barely get attention
>and would fix everything that makes him so shit today
Considering he's shit because DC writers are just a bunch of moronic Batman fanboys, I doubt that. Just shelve him and call it a day.
Because Jason can't kill any villains that matter. They all would eventually be brought back and it makes Jason's goal pointless. Plus they don't like pushing a "hero" using guns in modern comics as much because of all the gun issues in the US. So Jason's character is screwed on two fronts.
The kindest and bravest? It's a bit reductive to define characters by just one or two traits. What matters most to me is seeing characters portrayed in a way that captures their full complexity and growth. Instead of pigeonholing characters into simplistic labels, I believe they should be depicted with depth, showcasing their complexities, flaws, and growth over time.
>A quick one-sentence recap of what everyone already knows at the start of a story? What an insult! Every comicbook should start with a full summary of every other comic book that was released before it to do these deep and complex characters justice! I need to be told their complete history every time they appear!
Get over yourself you non-functioning autist.
I’m referring to the way characters are written, not the entire storyline. Characters can be more than just angry or happy all the time, as they should exhibit a range of emotions and complexities to feel authentic and relatable.
The kindest and bravest? It's a bit reductive to define characters by just one or two traits. What matters most to me is seeing characters portrayed in a way that captures their full complexity and growth. Instead of pigeonholing characters into simplistic labels, I believe they should be depicted with depth, showcasing their complexities, flaws, and growth over time.
It’s literally simplifying things to fit the style of a fairy tale, which generally do not feature extensive characterization.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
In old fairy tales, characters tended to be simple archetypes with straightforward storylines. However, in today’s comics, storytelling has evolved. If writers cling to old-fashioned methods, they risk creating characters that feel like soulless action figures.
Honestly, if those descriptions are revealed to be just how Damian perceives his brothers and he grows out of that mindset as the story advances and he spends time with them, it will be fine, maybe even great. But I'm not familiar with Juni's work to know if he can pull it off.
He’s a terrible writer and his art is pretty inconsistent. Sometimes solid other times pure dog shit. He had a really good issue of Deep Cuts recently but his own project, monkey meat, was absolutely fricking terrible.
That being said the cover price for this is far too high so I’ll be pirating regardless.
>there was a king who protected his kingdom
Why do modern writers always do gay ass shit like this? Just write a normal Batman comic you massive homosexual
It ended up being cut from the final issue >Denny did some things editorially that drove me crazy.In the first issue of the reboot (#408), I had opened with a caption indicating that we were starting over. It was a little arch, something like, "In the kingdom of Gotham there was a dark knight with a faithful squire," but it did indicate a fresh start or anyway a new entry point.Denny cut it, without discussing it with me.
https://www.cbr.com/batman-second-chances-writer-recalls-editorial-clashes-reaction-to-robins-death/
No, I won’t read anything JSA related because they made Alan gay and janin is a tracer who produces shitty “art”. But mostly because they made Alan a gay which is simply ridiculous.
Or >nightwing stops coming back to Batman comics >tim moves on as well and if solo stuff goes good rad, if not axe the character and let him live happy life >jason Todd dead again and stays dead >damien sticks around as robin and eventually becomes Batman
Sure.
Nah, just return Jason to a moronic villain, leave Tim with Young Justice, Dick with his own b***hes (as he has been for about 40 years) and Damian only in Batman and Robin, so it's easy to avoid.
This.
Dick 100% has his own life and villains; he's an established superhero in his own right and shouldn't have to always be running home to huff Bruce's farts.
Red Hood should go back to basically being "The Batman who Kills" and take the place of "villain that Batman autistically keeps from other people from trying to kill" from Joker.
Tim should just be the Teen Titans/Young Justice Robin. Being Red Robin and doing detective work was fine.
Damien is fine as "The Robin who is basically a tiny Batman".
If it weren't for the fact that we're still stuck in both the Event Era of Comics and "Batman is Unbeatable" era, I'd say that the Batfamily should only come together when Bruce can't take on something by himself.
>Tim should just be the Teen Titans/Young Justice Robin. Being Red Robin and doing detective work was fine.
The Titans are Dick's thing.
The Titans drag Dick down by being antidraws.
Dick's Titans are literally just the Justice League with out calling themselves the Justice League at this point. I'm talking about how Tim was in the post-One Year Later era of Teen Titans.
That's great. If Tim is going to exist give him his own team. Trying to make the Teen Titans Tim's thing just fricks over Dick and the Titans.
This is why nobody likes Tim Drake.
Nobody likes Tim because he's a wienersucker.
There are countless reasons to dislike Tim Drake.
honestly can't think of many beyond dumb editorial tampering/nonsense and if we get into that game then we might as well burn down all of DC
All he ever did was be boring. Initially he was interesting because he actually had a family and a life and now he’s just… there
The existence of Tim Drake and DC's desperation to keep him relevant ruined Dick for over a decade.
True. Does he even still have fans?
explain
You guys are more angry about shit that A)Tim Drake and also hated and B)wasn't anything close to Jason almost taking over the Nightwing mantle and killing off Dick.
Then call the team Young Justice, then. It's not my problem that DC is too chicken shit to actually let Dick's team just be called The Justice League.
>Tim should just be the Teen Titans/Young Justice Robin. Being Red Robin and doing detective work was fine.
Stop trying to make Tim work. He's completely redundant with the others around. He's the worst Robin due to being the boring one.
That's literally why they said to slap him onto the teen superhero team. Robin has always been a main member of the team, but Dick and Jason are too old and Damien doesn't play well with others.
>Damien doesn't play well with others.
Then make him play with others. Tony Stark was describes as not being able to play with others yet, he's an Avengers mainstay. Same with Batman sometimes.
>put Tim on the Teen Titans
>give him the personality of the Robin from TT03
Boom, I just fixed his character.
>give him the personality of the Robin from TT03
Why not do that for Damian then?
Damian already has a character; Tim does not.
>characterization
>DC
If being a jerk is a personality then so is being a goody-two-shoes. They're both wasp and smug buttholes that are better than everyone, much like Bruce.
>Damian
>WASP
Pick one
Don't need to .He very much is considering how he reject his "exotic" lineage and he's a tiny Bruce with green eyes..
He's genetic mystery meat raised in the Middle East. He looks the least like Bruce when compared to Dick, Jason and Tim despite being his biological son.
>>give him the personality of the Robin from TTGo!
Fixed that for you
Frick off with this.
We're not suppose to talk about ANYTHING Tim did in the 90s to reinforce that he's always been a worthless gay boy that literally no one liked.
>Red Hood should go back to basically being "The Batman who Kills" and take the place of "villain that Batman autistically keeps from other people from trying to kill" from Joker.
It’s the most obvious thing in the world and would fix everything that makes him so shit today and yet they just won’t do it. Why? Everything before and after UTRH was laying it out and then they just drop it kek. What was the point of bringing him back like that just to ruin what made him unique and actually interesting? Now he’s just Dick but edgy and the “black sheep.”
Because he can't actually kill anybody but generic mobsters and that gets old fast.
They could still make him a crime boss again.
>Batman tracking down and killing gansters like he did in the 30s is now "boring"
Bring back some of Batman's more notorious mob-era villains and having Jason cut a bloody path through Gotham to permanently rid the city of them sounds like an awesome fricking book.
Bruce looking a little Italian himself in that bottom left panel.
Because there were only a handful of notable mobster stories early on, it's why they had him fight vampires and monster men like 5 issues in.
Besides, Huntress already cleared the Mafia, and she can barely get attention
Red Hood x Huntress, I’d read it
>and would fix everything that makes him so shit today
Considering he's shit because DC writers are just a bunch of moronic Batman fanboys, I doubt that. Just shelve him and call it a day.
Best way to shelve him? Kill him again? Make him leave for good? Make him braindead again? He has options.
>death mattering at DC
>anything sticking at DC
Don't use or mention him.
He got put away for like two decades last time it happened. Maybe next time he swings around they can get him right.
Because Jason can't kill any villains that matter. They all would eventually be brought back and it makes Jason's goal pointless. Plus they don't like pushing a "hero" using guns in modern comics as much because of all the gun issues in the US. So Jason's character is screwed on two fronts.
>Because Jason can't kill any villains that matter.
Name 5 popular characters that Deathstroke killed in the last 10 years.
nobody takes deathsroke seriously nowadays
He shouldn’t have gotten more after the second one died. You’d think he learnt his lesson.
Tim essentially blackmailed him into accepting him
>talia is wearing a massive suit and built like a man
Juni you’re a homosexual
Holy shit I couldn’t even tell who it was until you said this. What kind of homosexual draws a seductress shaped more masculinely than her father?
Wait that’s talia?
>The first was kind and brave.
Who was in your opinion the kindest and bravest under the title then?
The kindest and bravest? It's a bit reductive to define characters by just one or two traits. What matters most to me is seeing characters portrayed in a way that captures their full complexity and growth. Instead of pigeonholing characters into simplistic labels, I believe they should be depicted with depth, showcasing their complexities, flaws, and growth over time.
>A quick one-sentence recap of what everyone already knows at the start of a story? What an insult! Every comicbook should start with a full summary of every other comic book that was released before it to do these deep and complex characters justice! I need to be told their complete history every time they appear!
Get over yourself you non-functioning autist.
I’m referring to the way characters are written, not the entire storyline. Characters can be more than just angry or happy all the time, as they should exhibit a range of emotions and complexities to feel authentic and relatable.
So you read the story then. Good to know
It’s literally simplifying things to fit the style of a fairy tale, which generally do not feature extensive characterization.
In old fairy tales, characters tended to be simple archetypes with straightforward storylines. However, in today’s comics, storytelling has evolved. If writers cling to old-fashioned methods, they risk creating characters that feel like soulless action figures.
well, you sold me. I'll read your story.
Whats the title?
This is what happens when a writer only knows these characters through fanon.
>long lost love
Is the most egregious part for me
What’s the issue? They used to be a thing
No, they didn’t.
I think DC comics needs to shutdown. Useless.
there are no good Dick Robin stories
Only in an Else World or alternate continuity.
DC should reset back to 1934
Why?
Honestly, if those descriptions are revealed to be just how Damian perceives his brothers and he grows out of that mindset as the story advances and he spends time with them, it will be fine, maybe even great. But I'm not familiar with Juni's work to know if he can pull it off.
He’s a terrible writer and his art is pretty inconsistent. Sometimes solid other times pure dog shit. He had a really good issue of Deep Cuts recently but his own project, monkey meat, was absolutely fricking terrible.
That being said the cover price for this is far too high so I’ll be pirating regardless.
Just what DC needs, another reboot! It's almost like the hacks of DC didn't attempt to reboot over a dozen times already.
>there was a king who protected his kingdom
Why do modern writers always do gay ass shit like this? Just write a normal Batman comic you massive homosexual
Max Allan Collins did the same thing on his run in the 80's and he's so old he worked with Chester Gould, it's not a new thing.
Prove it.
It ended up being cut from the final issue
>Denny did some things editorially that drove me crazy.In the first issue of the reboot (#408), I had opened with a caption indicating that we were starting over. It was a little arch, something like, "In the kingdom of Gotham there was a dark knight with a faithful squire," but it did indicate a fresh start or anyway a new entry point.Denny cut it, without discussing it with me.
https://www.cbr.com/batman-second-chances-writer-recalls-editorial-clashes-reaction-to-robins-death/
So he didn’t do it then…
just delete damian. helena is better anyway.
Helena was literally Damian, but being a Catholic was why she was a huge butthole.
??
They did, you just won't read it because it's not a Bat-Book.
No, I won’t read anything JSA related because they made Alan gay and janin is a tracer who produces shitty “art”. But mostly because they made Alan a gay which is simply ridiculous.
Hate how they try and turn the former Robins all into the Ninja Turtles. Spreading the Robin identity between so many characters has been awful.
They should permanently kill one
Or
>nightwing stops coming back to Batman comics
>tim moves on as well and if solo stuff goes good rad, if not axe the character and let him live happy life
>jason Todd dead again and stays dead
>damien sticks around as robin and eventually becomes Batman
Tim should also die. Because it would be funny.
I agree.