>Jiren when he busts his fat loads onto the newly transitioned Martian Womanhunter with his mighty throbbing BGC, causing the entire DC Cosmology to kneel in fear
Do you have any idea how unfair that is. The Biker Mice are veterans from Martian wars against Plutarkans, their motorcycles are basically military weapons. Not only that but their motorcycles don’t even need them to fight. They can literally bring down a skyscraper on paper just by towing the foundations or tow an underground bridge. They literally have a missile that works like a street shark. One of them can smash a tank apart. They have had buildings collapse on them and get up just fine
I’m pretty sure Luffy’s already rubber meaning he can just use regular punches at this age. Ichigo sees ghosts but that ain’t helping. And not sure what Naruto has as that age since Kurama is sealed
Outside of crossovers, Thor movies are a mixed bag. Nobody else had to bear the indignity that was Love and Thunder, and nobody wants to suffer the slog that is The Dark World.
So how does “power level negates hax” translate to other universes, anyways? Seems like whenever its brought up, it’s only with DBZ characters negating non-DBZ hax, as if that’s some inherent ability tied specifically to characters with power levels, and non-DBZ characters who aren’t measured in power levels are given absolutely zero natural resistance against DBZ hax.
That it's always brought up in the context of DBZ characters resisting DBZ hax should tell you something.
The only time a non-ki power was resisted was Vegito, and he only partially resisted it (he was still turned into a candy even though he could move).
Ryan Reynolds should win. I think he dumped his Parallax into the sun or something.
>Stitch vs Rocket has barely passed 500k views in 24 hours
It is not looking good. Is it a flop?
It's not a fight anyone wanted and in general the out of control swankery is driving people away. People probably clicked off when they saw the black box about peak Marvel humans being able to move faster than a nanosecond.
Leo once cut the top of the technodrome off while under water. Yes. The only advantage the Manhttan Clan has is that they fly (glide, technically), and the TMNT have answers to that. Vehicles, grapples, throwing stars, etc. And it's not like the Manhattan Clan can shoot lasers at them while gliding. Goliath is the only one they really have to worry about, and once weaker guys like Lexington and Broadway drop the TMNT can just gang up on Goliath
>It's not a fight anyone wanted
Guess it's back to anime nobodies vs light novel nobodies then.
The moronic obsession with death and humiliation is also starting to bite them in the ass. No one wants to see either Rocket or Stitch bite it since they're so cute and lovable.
Well yeah the smart characters in this show tend to get shown being dumb unless it's a match that allows them to not go full Unga bunga like killua vs misaka. Which even though I hate that fight it did show them trying to be smart.
>Well yeah the smart characters in this show tend to get shown being dumb
So did the actual Lilo and Stitch show.
>Stitch gets bodied by Optimus Prime, still manages to do a whole movie >Rocket spends the whole of GOTG3 on his back because his genetics that were used to save his life were under corporate copyright protection
That's just funny. Like the animation did depict stitch doing some smart stuff I take that back. He surfed an explosion and he used another explosions momentum to pierce rocket into his own gun. Overall the animation showed how durable stitch was and how creative he is. While fully showing rockets arsenal and tactics.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The animation gave Stitch more credit than his own franchise did.
What's wrong with killua is that I hate the matchup if they were gonna stomp killua it should've been a fight with someone from a series that I give a frick about. Misaka is a literal who.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Misaka is a literal who.
Except that she's not, Otto.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>one of the most popular ln series in Japan >her manga spin-off and it’s anime adaptation that is even more popular than the original source material
At least pretend like you know what you’re talking about
Then explain why I never heard about her before this ep. I at least knew about accelerator due to the magneto matchup.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Idk she prolly doesn’t have that many good matchups and you’re a Cinemaphile gay secondary? The fact that you know accelerator but not her just goes to show you’re an idiot since his entire plot revolves around killing her and her clones.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Dude I didn't know shit about her accelerator. I only knew about him because of these threads. I actually knew killua because I've read hxh. I don't know how you'd expect me to be interested in railgun. It's not a Shonen or anything like dbz or bleach which are the mainly interesting animes.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The index show is a shonen and so is railgun. Comparing it to HxH, one of the most popular shonen ever, isn’t very fair. Also, >shonengay
watch better anime please I’m begging you
11 months ago
Anonymous
It doesn't matter if there's better anime. What matters is what's hype. And I hate to break it to ya anime like railgun which has a female protag like misaka aren't gonna even come close to being as hype as goku screaming for 20 episodes.
You’re on an anime image board homosexual
I've watched anime before what are you talking about? I'm just saying railgun isn't hype nor worth caring about.
Also cartoons > anime for the most part.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Holy shit do you even know what that's about
11 months ago
Anonymous
I know what railguns about. There's a buncha psychics and there's 1 guy with the ability to cancel psychic powers. Kinda like black clover now that I think about it. But also like black clover I gave it one episode before thinking that it sucked. Most anime nowadays have cool ideas but end up sucking to me. Like my hero academia or one punch man.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Every anime/manga you just listed are fricking trash tiger garbage. Name a single decent anime that’s not dragon ball, I’ll wait. Also don’t you realize all your precious cartoons were heavily influenced by anime?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I know you anime fans are either pedos or basement dwellers so I'll post one you think is good.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Never really got into made in abyss funny you call me a pedo when American cartoons have troony shit in it everywhere. >pedo
implying Cinemaphile doesn’t have threads trying to sexualize children’s cartoon characters that are also children. Loudhouse threads are an obvious example. Also >basement dweller
Says the homosexual posting on Cinemaphile
11 months ago
Anonymous
Threads from wierdos about cartoon characters is a bit different than an entire show where the underage characters are sexualized. Face it the only anime that matter are dbz bleach naruto and one piece.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's clearly meant to make the viewer uncomfortable
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well troony shit like steven universe makes you uncomfortable right? But it's ok when anime makes you uncomfortable? Get outa here. At least if I limit myself to cartoons I don't have to be exposed to it double the time.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You come across as an ESL
11 months ago
Anonymous
>this one scene from the e-girlguro anime from the medium full of pedo pandering is supposed to be uncomfortable and not erotic, actually
lol, comma, lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's not even what it's fricking called you absolute asshat
11 months ago
Anonymous
Bro, you're spreading yourself too thin.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t even like railgun or index but the least you could do is know what ur shitposting about. >shonengay >thinks cartoons are better than anime
didnt know it was possible to have such shit taste wow I’m impressed.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ah yea man pic related is so much better than cartoons. And if you don't think like that? It's a anime image board get better taste.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>one of the most popular ln series in Japan >her manga spin-off and it’s anime adaptation that is even more popular than the original source material
At least pretend like you know what you’re talking about
11 months ago
Anonymous
So popular the DB is nowhere near 1 million views after two (2) weeks
Yeah, I'm not trusting 'sales reports'
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
>One of the most popular series in Japan
No one cares about Japan. Not even the Japanese. Electric Waifu Feed Match was sucked, and the dumb dumbs that suggested it and passed it need to be taken out back by their WB bosses and curbstomped for letting their dicks burn company money.
I'll give Stitch one advantage and one advantage only: Rocket would logically have no idea that none of his weapons would be able to kill Stitch directly, and there is a 1% chance that Rocket wouldn't be able to figure that out until it's too late.
>Stitch gets bodied by Optimus Prime, still manages to do a whole movie >Rocket spends the whole of GOTG3 on his back because his genetics that were used to save his life were under corporate copyright protection
Comics yes, movie no. He also easily beats Rocket. Honestly, most of Rocket's teammates over the years easily beat him. It's almost like he's not terribly strong or durable, and just has a big gun and is kind of clever.
>It's almost like he's not terribly strong or durable, and just has a big gun and is kind of clever.
Stitch has been captured by infinitely less competent people.
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
Rocket has had his shit pushed in by clowns. Literal clowns.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Stitch, with his FTL reaction time, has had his shit pushed in by a tree branch.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just like Goku.
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
He's not trying to fight here, and without Swank, neither he nor Rocket are FTL.
11 months ago
Anonymous
He doesn't need to "try to fight." Just not get smacked and then captured.
You also forget
Supercomputer brain and reaction time guys
where Gantu literally just walked up to him and caught him.
In one episode he got captured and stuck in a crane game.
Rocket could literally just throw a net on Stitch and win with Stitch's track record.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well, yeah, he's not bloodlusted in any of the scenarios you mentioned.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody said he had to be bloodlusted. Just competent.
Stitch gets captured so much its not even funny.
Well I am a black guy that's probably why I think the big 3 are the best anime has to offer. But I also have the entire physical manga of berserk if that's anything.
I mean even if you look at the better view count anime eps there's a trend for these so called trash anime doing better for views than some niche anime.
Realistically speaking, Obito should be able to mind frick Vader in sage of six paths mode, because he has access to a deeper state of mind. The bijuus state it so.
unsure since in the canon Comics, Vader's mental connection with the force becomes so strong that he leaves his physical body as an avatar of the Dark side and literally time travels through time and dimensions, even at one point attempting to kill child Anakin and later foresaw his own future battle with Ahsoka
No? Like the only person you could even wank to being that high would be Kaguya, but she's explicitly far stronger than even Madara, who's much stronger than Obito (even his 10 Tails form)
11 months ago
Anonymous
Obito was able to stand and run in the gravity dimension. Kaguya jobbed there.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Isn't the point of Kaguya was that she dumped all her points in chakra/ninjutsu stuff but she sucks in physical / other stuff? Hence why Madara was vastly more of a threat than Kaguya and he only got fricked over because of plant man specifically?
11 months ago
Anonymous
She had raw power but little to no technique. A contrast from madara who even with no eyes managed to escape from sasuke
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sakura harmed kaguya
11 months ago
Anonymous
and she'd likely kill Juubito with the same punch since her punches are bullshit strong even without her forehead seal undone, plus physical, brute-force attacks are one of the only few things that even hurt 6 Paths characters (also we know her hurting Kaguya at all was PIS. It's dumb but Kishimoto wanted to include the whole Team 7 shit)
It's no Skyrim vs Dark Souls, but I think at this point Misaka vs Killua was at 400k or something. It should hit a million around a week, and certainly before MvK does.
We already had that, it was Deadliest Warrior. Plus they wouldn't have gorillatons of tnt and septillion times ftl feats to lean on for the animation, so it would be two guys grazing each other with their arsenal before someone gets a good hit.
Ned Kelly vs Sam Steele could be pretty cool. Australia's national hero, a robber, vs a Canadian national hero, a cop. Have it come out on May 1 for the anniversary of the Treaty of Union.
Anyone else notice Wiz getting a lot more focus this season? There’s a lot of “science” MUs for him to gush over, and he’s also getting more character development in how he’s trying (and failing) to make jokes instead of just being the straight man all the time. I wonder if this is gonna lead to another Macho vs Koolaid situation, where one episode, he just snaps, and laments over being less popular than Boomstick, so he goes to his old “college professors” (Rick and the Doctor) for advice on how to get his life back together.
I really hope you're wrong because that would be cringe as hell, but I also sort of want to to happen to see what the view count would be like. Would the matchuo be able to carry, or would the format of MM vs KAM doom another episode?
I really hope you're wrong because that would be cringe as hell, but I also sort of want to to happen to see what the view count would be like. Would the matchuo be able to carry, or would the format of MM vs KAM doom another episode?
frankly they should have gotten rid of wiz and boomstick forever ago. as characters they're one-not jokes and a distraction from the fights which is the only reason people tune in in the first place.
The only reason why the avatars were made is to make an eventual Wiz vs Boomstick matchup they've been wanting to make in years (which in my opinion they should've done it years ago)
Yeah so if they do this its probably just gonna be some shit like Kool Aid Man vs Macho Man where they reflect on the show's history
I'm hoping someone more competent purchases the rights to Death Battle, or at least continues its legacy, maybe it won't have to end with Death, maybe it could just be like One Minute Melee and be more story-focused and less about the dick measuring
11 months ago
Anonymous
It'll probably end in death but then the victor revives the other. They have enough hax between them that either could do it.
I hope sakura is next. Since women hate her too, I hope they give her one of the most brutal deaths on the show. In fact 90% of the budget should go directly to her death animation
Happy 4th, I did an incredibly autistic deep dive on a hyper obscure golden age superheroine. There's a section at the bottom for using her in vs battles.
When the hell does the podcast talk about Uncle Sam? I'm interested in what they have to say.
>Swank jerk offs Captain Britain because MUH PHOENIX >"Oh, but Uncle Sam is only that powerful on the iconosphere" >Doesn't scale Sam to Superman >Excalibur killing generic hunger and death spirits means Excalibur can kill Sam >Brian got his ass beat by Mad Jim Jaspers, so he scales to them.
Can we deport Swank?
the patriots of the nation you cherish plan a different end than you're thinking of
the america the founding fathers sought is no longer with us, accept the descent of the west and its mythologies or ROT in your hubris
Oh yeah i agree the fans should at least acknowledge the possibility of him and the staff rigging matchups and bookings in their little discord circlejerk to be "legit", you have no idea how many moronic troons think death battle has any integrity left, its astonishing how you have morons use the "it's just a _, stop treating it with logic" fallacies but then bootlick a whole company who operates by that system and defend it through their circlejerked linguistics about binary psuedoscience
God i miss Mali and one minute melee, they actually had passion for it
Swan needs to be dethroned, we need one of our guys in there.
10 months ago
Anonymous
If one of our guys were in there, he'd call someone a homosexual and get tossed immediately.
That's true.
But it still doesn't change that Swank is a NYCon that needs to be sent over the Atlantic.
What a total homosexual. You know how you can tell "death by war" isn't the same as Uncle Sam? Did people stop dying in wars after Brian shanked him?
Infinite Speed Captain Britain is some bullshit, especially when under the same logic Sam has beyond infinite speed due to Superman scaling.
Reasons Sam should shitstomp.
>Excalibur has never killed something on the level of Sam before. Death by war/hunger/pain are nowhere near iconosphere Sam. Iconosphere level Sam is on the level of MJJ or Phoenix, two beings that shitstomped Brian.
>Sam would know everything about Brian, as he can freely travel the multiverse (Precrisis) and knows everything any American knows, so he has all of Marvel Earth's SWORD and SHIELD files on him.
>Sam is boosted way above Excalibur Brian in the heartland and iconosphere.
>Sam doesn't lose any strength by fighting defensively and running away. In fact, he's quite use to fighting guerilla style due to his time on Earth-X. But Brian does.
tldr: Sam pops into the Heartland where he's God, says "Come get me, redcoat." and Brian either has to run straight to where Sam is most powerful and can overwhelm him with environmental control or he loses powers because he's not confident anymore. Sam wins for the same reason Darkseid beat Thanos.
The America the founding fathers wanted was stupid anyways
Any centralized government is inherently flawed. The point is that the Founding Fathers allowed for an unprecedented level of decentralization. They didn't even want a regular army.
Otto raises a good point here. Sam doesn't lose strength by being unsure of himself. Brian does. If Brian tries to teleport out of the iconsphere/heartland, he's taking a big hit to his confidence and power. And wasn't this how the minutemen beat the redcoats anyway?
If his strategy requires momentary retreat for better ground and kiting, why would that affect his confidence?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah it should, especially when it's an American spirit telling him he's a sissy boy.
"Come fight me in Iconosphere, redcoat."
"N-No Uncle Sam, come fight me in Avalon..."
Brian either nuts up and fight Sam in the place of his power, where he didn't just match Spectre but beat him, or he runs like a sissy while being taunted about it. He's going to take a confidence hit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why wouldn't Brian be the one baiting? It's not like Britain is the empire with anything to lose. Sam would leave immediately if any American interests or patriots wrre threatened. He's being the sissy
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sam doesn't lose any power by ducking into another place. But Brian does lose power if he chickens out.
There are two responses Brian has to Sam going to the heartland.
1. He stays away, in which case his confidence takes a hit. He may no longer be worthy of wielding Excalibur. At any rate, he's now slim pickings for Sam.
2. He goes to the heartland, where he gets taken part because Sam can freely shape the environment just like Mad Jim Jaspers who kicked Brian's ass.
11 months ago
Anonymous
3. He strategically refuses to enter and begins wrecking US military installations and servicemen to bait out Sam. They are supernational avatars at war, after all
11 months ago
Anonymous
I know heroes do a lot of shit on death battle, but I don't see Brian Braddock doing that. That's some straight supervillain shit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's some straight warfare shit, son. You don't get supernational avatars fighting to the death without some implications on the side
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sam says no. He's the spirit of libertarianism and military downsizing as well as military industrial interests, after all.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I know heroes do a lot of shit on death battle, but I don't see Brian Braddock doing that. That's some straight supervillain shit.
Huh. If Brian went around wrecking international US bases under the guise of "fighting colonialism" would that work? Is Sam obliged to defend American bases in Japan, Europe, and Africa?
11 months ago
Anonymous
He'd do it as 'defending the realm'. What does it mean for Britain if Avalon falls?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Even better, Brian takes The Declaration of Independence and burns it. Sam would have to stop being a pussy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sam doesn't lose power by not being confident in his abilities. In fact, as others have said, he spent years fighting a guerilla war on Earth-X. If we allow Brian to go so far outside the battle that he's attacking America, then Sam can do the same and kill Merlin and shit on Big Ben.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sam spent years LOSING a guerrilla war on Earth X. And Brian's confidence isn't affected by Sam being a pussy and running from a fight. As soon as he baits him out, Brian and Sam are on even footing, as Brian confidently planned. And if Sam did run away, allowing Brian to destroy the American artefacts of power, it's Sam who gets weakened
You morons lost this for Sam by having him behave like a b***h lmao
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
>Losing a guerilla war on Earth X
Yes, because Earth X is anathema for patriotic American feelings.
>Brian's confidence isn't affected by Sam running away
But it is affected by his choice of response.
>Baits him out
Sam has no reason to leave the Heartland, and the process of baiting Sam out will both hurt Brian's confidence, as he's virtually admitting he can't take Sam head-on, and disqualify him from using Excalibur, as murdering a shit ton of innocent people does not make you worthy of wielding it.
If Brian tries to bait out Sam, his power levels plummet.
>American artifacts of power
Sam just scoops them into the Heartland.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Earth X is anathema for patriotic American feelings.
the freemasons don't exist in Earth X?!
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
Only the Axis had superheroes in the form of Baron Blitzkrieg. America had gotten curbstomped by the Nazis before Sam and the Freedom Fighters jumped from Earth-2 so Sam was stuck at weenie mode over in Earth-X.
>Full power Captain Britain
Pushed the Phoenix, not the WHR Phoenix by the way, but correct me if I'm wrong, a few feet back, then fell over and had to be pulled back before he died.
>Full Power Uncle Sam
Tore off the Specter's arm and nearly beat hi to death with it.
How the frick is this even a fight? Is Swan moronic?
This is the big comparison for me. Beating up the Specter is far more impressive than being a speed bump to the Phoenix, and not the whole multiversal Phoenix either. The rest of the fight is just wiggling around that central comparison.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The freemasons are anathema to patriotism. The Great Work doesn't allow it
In any case, Hitler smashed America after winning WW2 on Earth X, and likely executed freemasons
11 months ago
Anonymous
Also, Uncle Sam's secret society of choice call themselves 'the Patriots' and appear occasionally opposed to freemasons
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sam has no ability to act from the Heartland. It's why he always needs to play Phantom Stranger and appeal to others to act for him. He's not pulling shit inside. And, as shown in previous stories, destroying American artefacts weakens him, worse even than kryptonite on Superman. Brian has no reason to lose any confidence when he has the superior strategy that doesn't involve running and hiding like a b***h
11 months ago
Anonymous
>destroying American artefacts weakens him
brian must impale the declaration of independence on the washington monument's capstone. he must then throw the washington monument like a spear through the capitol and the white house and it will ricochet into the statue of liberty. would sam survive that?
11 months ago
Anonymous
He'd survive as a powerless old man. Depending on the nation's response, possibly on life support... or making like Hulkster.
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
This.
The fight is Darkseid vs Thanos again where one guy can't lose in his seat of power, because he's got feats beating characters similar to what runs over the other guy, and the other guy can't help but fight him there.
You can't even say Sam wouldn't know to do this, because Sam knows anything any American knows, which means he knows about Brian and Excalibur and Avalon and all that.
He doesn't even need to fight Brian directly. He can just drop Americana imagery on his head until he finds a good opportunity to teleport behind him and do to Excalibur what he did to Specter's arm.
almost missed this post i guess that was your intent you mongoloid. reread MY post without the neurotic need to be argumentative for literally no reason. if i meant the explosion knocked him out that wouldn't be an "implication". but it's very clear what the writer was going for with the panel of superman being at death's door right after the explosion and how it's a noble sacrifice instead of just another hokey chad meme with superman blinking it away or summ. you are capeshit illiterate and filtered if you don't understand this very basic child level storytelling. supergay fragility is getting out of hand
Goddamn you are dumb.
He's picked up by a red sun by aliens as the story starts. They don't know how he got there. The reader doesn't know how he got there. It's implied that it might be from exerting himself after he merged with the Rann super computer and did a boxing match under a red sun.
While the aliens take care of him, one of them, a telepath, looks through his memories. The missile is one of the memories.
The missile did not knock him out. The missile did not hurt him. A kindergartener has better reading comprehension than you do, listroon. The missile happened months or even years before the story started.
Don't forget a bunch of them got killed off just to inflate the Freedom Fighters
You know DC still can't reprint most Quality stories because the license was sold in the 50's
Gawandaland has reprinted a few of them.
It's weird looking at how the Quality set ended up. There's a wide distribution of fates.
>Sam
Essentially unchanged, but minus Buddy, which is a shame because he always had such interactions with Sam.
>Human Bomb
Beaten to death by Bizarro.
>Plastic Man
Is relatively used a lot, but his personality is completely different. DC basically turned him into Ace Ventura.
>Doll Man
Went insane.
>Jester
Turned out to secretly be evil.
>Spider
Same as Jester.
>Red Torpedo
Had a good life, created a floating city.
Why wouldn't Brian be the one baiting? It's not like Britain is the empire with anything to lose. Sam would leave immediately if any American interests or patriots wrre threatened. He's being the sissy
Are you suggesting Brian starts killing Americans to lure Sam out? That's pretty OOC, even for DB, and would instantly make Excalibur turn on him since its selective.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The Jester that turned out to be evil was the original's grandson. Spider I'm cool with, and Doll Man got better. The one that pisses me off is Invisible Hood.
11 months ago
Anonymous
i never said the missile is what knocked him out before the ayys found him. aren't you supposed to be a teacher you stupid b***h? get some better reading comprehension
>Excalibur has never killed something on the level of Sam before. Death by war/hunger/pain are nowhere near iconosphere Sam. Iconosphere level Sam is on the level of MJJ or Phoenix, two beings that shitstomped Brian.
>Sam would know everything about Brian, as he can freely travel the multiverse (Precrisis) and knows everything any American knows, so he has all of Marvel Earth's SWORD and SHIELD files on him.
>Sam is boosted way above Excalibur Brian in the heartland and iconosphere.
>Sam doesn't lose any strength by fighting defensively and running away. In fact, he's quite use to fighting guerilla style due to his time on Earth-X. But Brian does.
tldr: Sam pops into the Heartland where he's God, says "Come get me, redcoat." and Brian either has to run straight to where Sam is most powerful and can overwhelm him with environmental control or he loses powers because he's not confident anymore. Sam wins for the same reason Darkseid beat Thanos.
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Any centralized government is inherently flawed. The point is that the Founding Fathers allowed for an unprecedented level of decentralization. They didn't even want a regular army.
I mean, let's think of all the cool shit that could happen in this fight. Primarily on watching how their arsenals interact. >Furno putting on his Breakout upgrade to take the fight underwater, only for Tahu's adaptive armor to kick in >Tahu getting his mask knocked off only to pull a fast one by >Furno using his 2.0 ice shield to put out an inferno >Tahu trying to use his Komau to control Furno but it fails due to Furno's strong will and XL's anti-mind control capabilities >Force-field-off with Hero Core vs Hau >Tahu surfing on lava against Furno's bike >Furno using his thermal goggles to get past Tahu's Mahiki copies >Furno using his fire sword's durability negation capabilities to >Furno overcharging his core >Furno whipping out the fricking jet machine
I'd honestly say that the fight is kinda unique because Furno has way more equipment than Tahu, but Tahu also has his masks and adaptive armor which really helps him keep up in the versatility category.
Still weird how they haven't brought Goku back. He has some pretty good matchups besides Superman that would probably bring in nice views, but they still keep him retired.
If they do anything but Goku vs. Superman 3, people are going to be spamming the comments about doing it again because Ultra Instinct, and whatever new form he'll get in the Freeza Black arc to overcome him if it's out by then. It's why they keep trotting out Vegeta, he's just as strong, if not actually physically stronger, he's got the pull for views, and they don't get spammed with him losing to Supes again. Next DBZ match will probably be Vegito vs. Composite Superman.
What do you mean? He's shown up a lot.
>GVS1 >GVS2 >Goku Black >GT Goku in Xeno Trunk VS Silver
Might be another I am forgetting
Don't forget that there were 2 Gokus in Gogeta vs. Vegito
And it probably won't happen until they do Heroes Goku vs. Superman, or the Vegito vs. Composite Superman, so they don't get accused of wasting Goku on another fight. Not that anyone can be wasted on a fight since Vegeta had 3 or 4, Batman has done 4, and if they really wanted to they could have a whole season of one guy fighting a variety of foes.
Which is stupid. If they actually want to make Goku vs Superman 3, it should be the final episode of the show. Not using Goku again is pretty fricking stupid.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They've mentioned a bunch of times now they want to bring Goku back and fight someone else. Ignore the liar
11 months ago
Anonymous
They say a lot of things. I'm telling you if they don't put a final nail in the Goku vs. Superman debate, there are going to be people crying about wasting him on someone else. And it's honestly the same for Superman, if they wanted to trot out a Superman vs. Saitama, people would be upset it's not Supes vs. Goku. Hell look at this thread when a new match is announced, half of it turns into people b***hing it isn't the match they wanted for one or both halves.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They backing down from infinite fictionational+++++ superman would be glorious.
A whole five minutes of them showing how inconsistent Superman is with jobbing to a one megaton bomb, several nukes, moon level, planet level explosions and saying he cannot destroy a world would be a great wake up call for DC homosexuals
I can guarantee that if Goku wins, everyone would cheer since no one unironically really likes superman. They just feel they have to cuz america.
Its like Pac-Man, no one really likes the character, they just respect he kinda led to other more popular games being made later on.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Listtroon, please stop talking. You are a dipshit of the highest order. Stop hiding behind Dragon Ball.
11 months ago
Anonymous
We just had Universal Chosen Undead and Universal / Multiversal Rocket Raccoon. Why would you think they'd start backing down when they've gone full throttle into moron wank?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Because DC shot themsleves in the feet with the cosmology revision.
As of now, Superman only scales to 52 timelines at his best.
You absolute moron. Goku and Superman are both liked for different reasons. The fact that you cannot grasp this only makes you seem like a giant b***h.
If Superman was actually liked, the DCEU/DC Universe wouldnt be being rebooted every 10 years.
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
>DC shot themselves
Pic related is Listroon when he learns that VSBW's fanfic division in continuity is not acknowledged or accepted by DC themselves.
Sorry homosexual, but Monitor Mommy upscales, not downscales.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I can do this all day
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
The rocket in the story wasn't what knocked out Superman. The alien is seeing memories of what Superman did back on Earth lightyears away and years in the past.
You moronic non-reader.
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
>beginning of his career right after the Crisis nerfed him
That's like pointing out Saiyan Saga Vegeta gets his tail cut off by Yajirobe. You can do better listtroon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
literally all day
11 months ago
Anonymous
not that anon but the implication is clearly that even moving the missile was a tough job and the explosion most likely messed him up
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
How did you come to that? Because he made a face while doing it?
Are you that desperate? That you're doing grimace scaling now? In the same mini where he beats the Flash in a race and holds all the information in the universe in his head?
11 months ago
Anonymous
For a capegay, you sure don't read comics. Supes gets his shit pushed in by random shit all the time despite showing he's stronger than that. No one cares about powers scaling when writing, he could destroy 64 universes in one punch in one panel then get knocked out by lightning in the next if the writer wants to. The comic frames it like he got knocked out by the rocket. Unless it was stated otherwise later, that's how it looks like. Only a homosexual like you would care if this makes him look weak.
11 months ago
Anonymous
He's making a face because he can hear everyone back on Earth. The explosion didn't do anything to him. At this point in the story, he's several light years away from Earth in a distant galaxy after leaving Earth in issue 1 to find a lost girl. He passed Rann in issue 2 I think.
11 months ago
Anonymous
he's making a face because he's struggling to overpower the thrust of the missile. quit making shit up
Death Battle's going to come out and start scaling kinks to God only knows what.
they already gave hulk the sex calcs and scaled other characters to THAT lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Its like Pac-Man, no one really likes the character, they just respect he kinda led to other more popular games being made later on.
KYS
11 months ago
Anonymous
You absolute moron. Goku and Superman are both liked for different reasons. The fact that you cannot grasp this only makes you seem like a giant b***h.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Delusional takes like this mean nothing. When will some of you learn that they pick matches with no consideration towards an audience?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>just had a poll to pick two matches for this season
No, surely they don't care at all about the audience. They just do what Lord Swan wills. It's about half and half, half are popular matches, the other half are things they think will be fun or make a great animation, or are personal ones they want to see.
Those years were the only time I came close from giving up Cinemaphile so I missed that fun. Came back to this series around the part Naruto and Delta started fighting.
>Sasuke wants to bring back his clan >only impregnates a single woman >its the ugliest, least likeable woman in the village >abandons her immediately and never has anymore kids
man it must suck to have your clan slaughtered only for the last survivor to be a deeply closeted gay man.
Naruto did more sasuke than sakura ever did. Remember when everyone was trapped inside obito shield? His only concern was saving himself, taka, and naruto. In fact he tried to kill sakura before his battle with naruto
Yeah Ming the merciless, frick would've even taken Megatron or Khan even, do these people even know about the roots of these genres and the cultures surrounding them? or do they just look at the 90s/80s and go "WOW ZOMG LE RETRO BLAST TO THE PAST!!! I DIDN'T KNOW SYNTHPUNK CAPESHIT TRANSFORMERS HE-MAN EXISTED YAS 8-BIT BASED NOSTALGIA REFERENCE!!! FRICK MY WIFE HARDER TYRONE!!!!"
>do an episode like three homosexuals spam on your discord >”oh wow this must be very popular” >fight bombs >this happens twice in a row
They gotta leave their hugbox once in a while, go and find out what people are actually requesting. And no, r/deathbattle and r/deathbattlematchups aren’t people.
Also: >they actually scaled rocket to Thanos
People joked about that and then it actually happened, unbelievable.
It really make cape matches boring to even talk about if they are going to do shit like scale Rocket to Thanos. You can scale anybody to anybody else with enough work
>kills his parents >primary reason why his childhood was shit >partially responsible for the death of jiraiya and countless others >le coolest guy
At least goku has the excuse of having brain damage but why is naruto such a cuck?
>Hulkamania and Macho Madness being a fundamental force of the Multiverse >The Ultimate warrior ripping the gates of heaven in half >Undertaker with the books of the dead >Vince defeating God in a tag team match
I am 100% fully convinced that the double double e is the only thing equal to Capeshit in terms of bullshit
This is reminding me of comics from the 50s where the plots revolved around deathtraps/bondage shenanigans. I think Otto dumped one of them in here a little while ago? A human torch sorta fellow?
The Ray. Apologies that his file isn't as comprehensive as USA.
https://www.capeworldcomics.com/comic/the-ray/
Quality didn't have much lewd bondage. Phantom Lady was pretty tame under their pen, and they didn't have any scantily clad jungle girls. Fox Features was probably the lewdest, mostly because they had Mat Baker drawing girls.
What's with you and Quality characters lately?
Finally decided to flesh out my take on the Quality verse. I picked them because the Quality set probably had the rawest deal out of all of DC's acquisitions.
Earth-S was just the Fawcett universe with everyone coming out of a suspendium coma so they'd be up-to-date.
Earth-4 was even more untouched. I don't think the Charleton set even had a crossover prior to COIE. They were spared becoming edgelords for life under Moore due to editorial.
But Quality kind of got a bum deal. They didn't start with a universe of their own. They stared on Earth-2 with all the National Comics guys. Then they got to go to Earth-X to fight Nazis forever. It felt kind of limiting, like they got to carry the Freedom Fighters vs Nazis bag forever, when really they didn't fight Nazis anymore than any other golden age group.
11 months ago
Anonymous
give me my my life baaack
i will take whats gone
HOW
HOWD WE COME THIS FAAAAR
AND WHY DID WE SURVIVEEEEE
ID RATHER LIVE MY LIFE THROUGH HONEST EEEEYEEEEESSS
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
>Pre OWAW
Listroon, just rope already.
11 months ago
Anonymous
doesnt look very infinite to me
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's well beyond any strength feat in most media. Even if you figure he's half the power and not the full power, with GL giving him a way to hold the whole planet, the mass of the Earth is 5.9736×10 to the 24th kg and half that would be 2.9868x10 to the 24th kg.
Here is Vegeta failing to lift 1000 tons in SSJ, even giving Blue a million times the power, it's still absolutely nothing compared to Superman lowballed on this attempt at 1 billion tons. Goku is roughly equal to Vegeta in physicality, he just has more technique to his fighting, so it's presumable he's just as strong physically, and even using kaikoen to multiply his strength 100 more times he's still only at 100 billion.
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
well that's Super manga Bejita, everyone in the Super manga are weak jobbers because Toyotaro is a hack
11 months ago
Anonymous
well that's Super manga Bejita, everyone in the Super manga are weak jobbers because Toyotaro is a hack
angry supes btw
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not sure exactly what you're conveying here, Supes survived the explosion of an Imperiex Probe that parted the ocean, destroyed Atlantis, and killed Aquaman without a scratch.
You might have an impact if you ascend your anti-feats, starting at the lowest and work your way up. Showing when he was weak post crisis doesn't work after you showed him putting in at least a third to a half of pulling the planet twice.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It actually did not destroy Poseidonis, or kill Aquaman
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
Listroon might realize one day that post-crisis Superman was nerfed compared to pre and wouldn't reach full parity with him until he threw down with Kal-L during Infinite Crisis.
[...]
Huh. If Brian went around wrecking international US bases under the guise of "fighting colonialism" would that work? Is Sam obliged to defend American bases in Japan, Europe, and Africa?
He'd do it as 'defending the realm'. What does it mean for Britain if Avalon falls?
Even better, Brian takes The Declaration of Independence and burns it. Sam would have to stop being a pussy.
Sam doesn't lose power by not being confident in his abilities. In fact, as others have said, he spent years fighting a guerilla war on Earth-X. If we allow Brian to go so far outside the battle that he's attacking America, then Sam can do the same and kill Merlin and shit on Big Ben.
Under this very dark scenario, Sam still has the advantage.
He doesn't lose one iota of power fighting like a minuteman. If anything, guerilla war is his bread and butter. He can blitz london with McDonalds happy meals 24/7 without leaving the heartland. But waging such a war is a direct hit to Brian's confidence, who only achieves max power by being UNGA BUNGA ME PUSH BACK SPACE BIRD ALONE DO NOT HELP ME I SHALL NOT FAIL.
Even max confidence Brian flags fast. He was able to push the Phoenix back, and immediately collapsed, nearly dying if he didn't get carried away. That's laughable compared to beating the Specter without a scratch. Brian has no prayer against max power Sam, even if you give him Excalibur, and if he ducks max power Sam, his confidence dips way below push-the-Phoenix level.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well, it's hard, since he doesn't understand posting random things from disrespect threads doesn't work well if he doesn't know what they are. It's all the estrogen flooding his brain I suppose, all emotion, no logic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
if you're going to reply to me at least post a feat that isn't one of his lower stuff?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>sea turns red >splits
bravo, DC
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
Superman has always been space Moses.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Goku is space Ramses correct?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Goku is also Moses.
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
Ramses is Lex.
Sam has no ability to act from the Heartland. It's why he always needs to play Phantom Stranger and appeal to others to act for him. He's not pulling shit inside. And, as shown in previous stories, destroying American artefacts weakens him, worse even than kryptonite on Superman. Brian has no reason to lose any confidence when he has the superior strategy that doesn't involve running and hiding like a b***h
>No ability to act from the Heartland.
He does, which is how the Freedom Fighters were able to use it as their Carrier.
>Brian has no reason to lose any confidence
He does. The comparison here would be murdering mutant telepaths to weaken the Phoenix vs fighting the Phoenix directly. Guess which path he picked and why he did it.
Furthermore, Uncle Sam is canonically friends with John Bull. Brian's confidence would be shaken just from the fact he's fighting a true friend of England in Uncle Sam, and if he's going around attacking American institutions his confidence will be shaken further as he's haring innocent people. What would his old roomate Peter Parker say about him invading Washington?
Excalibur would likely not even work for Brian in the first place, as Uncle Sam is a friend to the very spirit of England and is highly selective about who wields it and for what. The moment he starts attacking Washington, it's not working for him period. Dr. Doom had to run a complex scheme involving binding his armor to the blood of King Arthur just to lift it.
Such caitiff acts are not the acts of Captain Britain.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Reread the OYL Freedom Fighters mini. Sam couldn't even leave the Heartland under his own power without murmuring to Firebrand to start some shit. It's not usable like you think
All that 'friends' nonsense goes out the window once a Death Battle between the avatars of Britain and America is declared. That's a war, and militaries are not innocent. Further, the documents that define America are not innocents, so Brian's strategy wouldn't affect Brian in any way, while weakening Sam for as long as he remains a hidey b***h
Why do you want Sam to lose this bad?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>All that 'friends' nonsense goes out the window once a Death Battle between the avatars of Britain and America is declared. That's a war, and militaries are not innocent.
I actually really appreciate this argument, because it's not just about stats and pushing. It's a semantics argument about what qualifies a war or not. I would say that a Death Battle between the avatars of Britain and America would not qualify as a war, for the same reason that Biden and Charles the Third getting into a fistfight wouldn't be a war.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They are the embodiment of the spirit of their nation, and if they die, so does their nation
Make no mistake: this is war
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
If its war then Uncle Sam gets to call in his soldiers.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Then Brian gets the entire Captain Britain Corps. I'm sure they'll have no problem fighting Doll Man and Black Condor
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
>He doesn't know Uncle Sam is a card carrying member of the All-Star Squadron
CBC gets soloe'd by Alan Scott.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The All-Star Squadron. Who were defeated by the King Bee and the Monster. Yeah.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sam explicitly left the All-Stars when he formed the Freedom Fighters
11 months ago
Anonymous
This is another fascinating argument. Can we define the American nation? Are we using it interchangeably with geography, as in the death of Uncle Sam would lead to the death of everybody in the Continental United States? Good time to be an Alaskan. And how would that work with Ireland?
If its war then Uncle Sam gets to call in his soldiers.
Comedy option, a complete nuclear holocaust annihilates both the United States and the United Kingdom before Uncle Sam and Captain Britain throw a single punch.
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
Sam was able to have the FF come and go freely at the end of the mini. It became their base of operations. They even had a little house there.
>Friends nonsense goes out the window
It doesn't, not when one person's strength is literally tied to their confidence and self-image, not when one person has a sword so selective that normal people with normal codes of conduct can't even pick it up.
Brian has to see himself in a certain way, in a certain light, for him to use his full power. Sam doesn't. Sam simply is, and as Brother Jonathan demonstrates, doesn't have to hold to any sort of morality beyond MY COUNTRY to retain his powers.
>The documents that define America are not innocents.
Brian is going to have to walk into the capitol, beat aside the guards and visitors, and destroy the sacred documents of a nation...all while somehow, feeling not just okay about doing this, but brimming with maximum confidence. If he falters even a little, he's eating a PC Superman scaled fist to the face. and dying.
This really is the big problem with Death Battle's model right here. Compositing fighters and assuming that bloodlusting works the same for every fighter is a flawed model. At that point, you might as well throw fanfiction versions of characters at one another.
True, but it's a particular sticking point here when one character's powers and abilities are literally based on their conduct and confidence.
Brian is fighting John Bull's BFF. There is -no way- he's going into the fight at max confidence. He's not a supervillain. If the thought of storming Washington even passes his mind, he's not at max confidence, and he NEEDS to be at max confidence to not get shit stomped.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>at the end
When Sam has formed community to power him. Outside help, and all that. On his own, the Heartland is Sam's womb and prison
And Brian is not going to falter. Not with his nation at stake
11 months ago
Anonymous
If his nation's survival is predicated upon destroying its closest allies, does his nation truly exist anymore? What is a nation in this context? Is it an ideology? A people? A geographical constraint?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Israel
11 months ago
Anonymous
Blind Guardian's "Precious Jerusalem" comes to mind.
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
Brian is so insecure he had a b***hfit over Kurt making time with Meggan. Sam throws a dead red coat in his face and his spirit is crushed.
He will falter. He will break. He broke against the Phoenix. He broke against Mad Jim Jaspers. He broke against the Fury.
The Wrath of God broke against Uncle Sam. And Brian is no God.
11 months ago
Anonymous
kurt? wagner?
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
Yes.
Brian thought Kurt cucked him.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sam gets pushed around by Hitler LARPers and Native Americans. Brian has never faced such a WEAK foe. He will reign supreme with little difficulty
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
Exhibit A:
AIEEEE SPACE BIRD I KNEEL.
MERLYN. ROMA. SOMEONE. HELP MEEEEEEEE
11 months ago
Anonymous
It would appear he didn't kneel
Are you getting desperate?
11 months ago
Anonymous
WTF? Mar Vell?!
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
Exhibit B
ANY FRICKING QUESTIONS?
Sam shatters Brian's confidence, kills him with Excalibur, and then goes over there to see Meggan, and he won't come back until he's over over there.
It would appear he didn't kneel
Are you getting desperate?
You're right, he had be carried away because the Space Chicken slapped his shit.
Swank Swank, ever the NYCrat, had to quibble his way out of Brian getting shitstomped in the ideasphere by saying he can just teleport out, like a b***h, like a b***h whose confidence is SHATTERED.
Max power vs Max power there is no comparison, Uncle Sam pours out Brian's tea.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Exhibit B is a dream sequence, and that homie's called 'the Patriot' and is explicitly Sam subsumed, not Sam himself
DC Comics Presents #62 Sam gets kicked around by a Hitler wannabe, needs Superman to save him
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
>Dream sequence
In a higher realm of reality, where the true Uncle Sam lives.
See Darkseid vs Thanos.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're calling that garbled mess with that flag the 'true Uncle Sam'?
homie you whack as frick
See also Freedom Fighters #11, where Sam gets assBEAT by some unemployed injuns
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Captain Britain gets his ass beat by a dream
HOLY SHIT
11 months ago
Anonymous
Exhibit B
ANY FRICKING QUESTIONS?
Sam shatters Brian's confidence, kills him with Excalibur, and then goes over there to see Meggan, and he won't come back until he's over over there.
[...]
You're right, he had be carried away because the Space Chicken slapped his shit.
Swank Swank, ever the NYCrat, had to quibble his way out of Brian getting shitstomped in the ideasphere by saying he can just teleport out, like a b***h, like a b***h whose confidence is SHATTERED.
Max power vs Max power there is no comparison, Uncle Sam pours out Brian's tea.
Sam probably wins because they run everyone at max power vs max power these days, damned be the reason, so Brian will be at full confidence just because and he'll be fighting Brother Jonathan just because, and Brother Jonathan will win because beating a cosmic being is more impressive than pushing back one for a second and then nearly dying to one.
>Captain Britian
--Shield quickly depletes
--Excalibur might be able to hurt Sam, but he can't get close enough to finish the job before Sam overwhelms him
--If there's any characterization here, his confidence will be shaken just by engaging in combat with Uncle Sam
They will both, of course, be equally fast, because of course they will be. They'll probably cite Mad Jim Jaspers to show that Brian is bad when he has to fight an environment as well as a person.
11 months ago
CapeworldComics
I actually think Swank would have Brian win if they actually make an episode out of it, because NYCrats hate America as a general rule.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why would Brian's nation be at stake?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I think we are defining nation as "the pride of the country the respective character is associated with, which can only be maintained if the respective character wins the death battle." Like any good war against an abstract term, their goals and terms of victory are vague enough to justify any action.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Don't forget a bunch of them got killed off just to inflate the Freedom Fighters
You know DC still can't reprint most Quality stories because the license was sold in the 50's
In all fairness, I make grimaces like that when I move around pillows. It makes me feel tough.
he's making a face because he's struggling to overpower the thrust of the missile. quit making shit up
[...]
they already gave hulk the sex calcs and scaled other characters to THAT lmao
Eventually Death Battle is just going to be about sex, and we're not going to remember how we survived in those dark days before the transition.
yeah but i don't think superman was fantasizing you know? >Eventually Death Battle is just going to be about sex
you already get pseudo shipping with all this "a is for b they have sooo much in common!!" rhetoric. not to mention the age old battleboarding meme "ends in sex". wiz is confirmed to be a pederast at least and i'm pretty sure boomstick has a few kinks himself. if they ever use dark schneider, that's when the idea that battleboarding and shipping are different things comes crashing down.
The Ray. Apologies that his file isn't as comprehensive as USA.
https://www.capeworldcomics.com/comic/the-ray/
Quality didn't have much lewd bondage. Phantom Lady was pretty tame under their pen, and they didn't have any scantily clad jungle girls. Fox Features was probably the lewdest, mostly because they had Mat Baker drawing girls.
[...]
Finally decided to flesh out my take on the Quality verse. I picked them because the Quality set probably had the rawest deal out of all of DC's acquisitions.
Earth-S was just the Fawcett universe with everyone coming out of a suspendium coma so they'd be up-to-date.
Earth-4 was even more untouched. I don't think the Charleton set even had a crossover prior to COIE. They were spared becoming edgelords for life under Moore due to editorial.
But Quality kind of got a bum deal. They didn't start with a universe of their own. They stared on Earth-2 with all the National Comics guys. Then they got to go to Earth-X to fight Nazis forever. It felt kind of limiting, like they got to carry the Freedom Fighters vs Nazis bag forever, when really they didn't fight Nazis anymore than any other golden age group.
Honestly, I feel dirty enough just discussing hypotheticals. I'm perfectly fine with distinguishing sex stuff from other stuff I enjoy and see no reason to make anything more perverse.
Stitch's speed feat being that he rode in a rocket ship has to be the most bizarre speed feat I've ever seen tacked on to a character. I dont know if I can think of anything that made me think "...What?" more.
It's sort of like Han Solo being faster than the Millennium Falcon. It's one of those things that should make the evaluator change their metrics, rather than double down and make everybody double Goku.
Stitch's speed feat being that he rode in a rocket ship has to be the most bizarre speed feat I've ever seen tacked on to a character. I dont know if I can think of anything that made me think "...What?" more.
At the time the story takes place, he's several galaxies away from Earth. The alien is looking into his memories at things that happened in the distant past.
The explosion didn't knock him out, you gibbering moron. Read comics, not Reddit threads.
almost missed this post i guess that was your intent you mongoloid. reread MY post without the neurotic need to be argumentative for literally no reason. if i meant the explosion knocked him out that wouldn't be an "implication". but it's very clear what the writer was going for with the panel of superman being at death's door right after the explosion and how it's a noble sacrifice instead of just another hokey chad meme with superman blinking it away or summ. you are capeshit illiterate and filtered if you don't understand this very basic child level storytelling. supergay fragility is getting out of hand
So, listroon is just working through his unresolved attraction to Superman, right? No one sane keeps this many pictures of something he actually hates.
>Full power Captain Britain
Pushed the Phoenix, not the WHR Phoenix by the way, but correct me if I'm wrong, a few feet back, then fell over and had to be pulled back before he died.
>Full Power Uncle Sam
Tore off the Specter's arm and nearly beat hi to death with it.
How the frick is this even a fight? Is Swan moronic?
They both are. Cosmics are perpetual jobbers. Capeshit is weak when they're heels. Superman destroys Omegaman the Conqueror then gets his shit kicked in by a a newly created street tier black teen superhero
>.
They'll never do it.
But, Sebastian should be able to win as he can't die as he's a demon and will know to stab alucard in the heart. Maybe alucard can consume him? Hard to tell.
>.
They'll never do it.
But, Sebastian should be able to win as he can't die as he's a demon and will know to stab alucard in the heart. Maybe alucard can consume him? Hard to tell.
Like iirc, it's noted that holy weapons would have no effect on alucard unlike the local vampires or werewolves. Something like that female grim reaper's sword might be able to affect him as they tear away the soul of the victim. Like, Sebastian had to actively dodge the thing until the fight ended in a stalemate.
So after doing a bit of checking, Sebastian would need his soul to be destroyed in order to properly die. Like, he can be shot by bullets but he just regenerates even if it is a barrage of them. He works as a demon contracted by ciel to be active as long as it takes for ciel to find his parents' murderers so if alucard can somehow reach him then it may pose another means to victory.
>Like, he can be shot by bullets but he just regenerates even if it is a barrage of them
Just have Baskerville eat him and shit him out. It’s not like he can come back from nothing.
That was when he was fighting against Walter solo. It was actually like, and alucard even said his talents were wasted inside that dog. It's just that Walter immediately killed like valentine right afterwards. Alucard just used a illusion of Luke to confuse Walter.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Though that raises the question of if alucard's esoteric powers can work on Sebastian, and given how Sebastian is supposed to be a demon from apparently the stronger ones I'd be inclined to say no.
He does have no feats of escaping dimensions though. I mean, given his contract with ciel, he can possibly bfr himself to wherever he is to bring himself back into the real world. But, he'd be in Britain again.
i think he could eat sebastian the way he did rip van winkle, alhambra and eventually luke valentine. you basically become his familiar, summoned forth from his dark mass of a body when he needs you. i don't know if that counts as a win necessarily and we know some beings are harder to digest than others but in luke valentine's case he remarked baskerville hadn't digested him fully and then he proceeded to do just that and valentine was no more- note his cheeky smirk as walter split him in half. it's even worse because we know sebastian can bleed, it's rare but it happens. the mechanics of these verses don't overlap very much but alucard should be a match for sebastian in strength and speed, but not even in the same existential plane in skill, dexterity and experience
Well, Sebastian does bleed. In fact, he shares the same thing as alucard where they just tank shit. But that's because he has the same level of regeneration as alucard if not even more potent. He can only be killed via the soul. Now about becoming a familiar, I think the like was just a illusion as alucard was forced to take down his hound after Walter piloted it. But assuming such a thing could work, it'd depend on if Sebastian can somehow find a way out of it. I mean, Luke took a decent while to "digest" if we were to believe that I think he actually makes familiars out of biting the victim) so Sebastian should have a much longer timeframe to get out of there.
In a death battle, both would be bloodlusted so no bfr or permanent mind control allowed. They would have to fight it out until one gives up.
alucard can exist just fine with his mangled body. even in level 0 he survived as basically just the lower half of his face, his neck and his arm and he was still lucid enough to use his pistol. same as without a head altogether when he fought anderson. sebastian on top of coming from an overall weaker verse was never completely mutilated like alucard was at least to my knowledge. >alucard was forced to take down his hound after Walter piloted it
because walter was using it and luke like marionettes. >Luke took a decent while to "digest"
yes, because alucard ate him and forgot about him. when alucard put his head to it he digested luke valentine during the walter fight. like i said he was a full on familiar by the time walter ran him through when earlier he was just his old self. although speaking of alucard's familiars that gives him an overbearing edge in range and versatility. rip van winkle had hypersonic homing pellets that could destroy fighter jets and alhambra's cards could split seras's artillery shells.
i don't see why sebastian would be particularly resistant to getting digested after enough of a scrap. and he doesn't get the big maybe of whether or not alucard would be happy dying to him since he's a demon. >They would have to fight it out until one gives up.
sebastian is strong and fast but he's no wolfman captain. i say alucard eats sebastian sooner or later and probably sooner at that since he won't be lenient
Brian at his normal level of confidence isn't in push-the-Phoenix mode. Does Swank really expect me to believe he'll start at max confidence knowing he has to kill the most sacred, golden hearted, representation of the people that saved his country's ass during the blitz? Bullshit. Brian is going to go into the fight psychologically fricked and it'll only get worse from there.
This really is the big problem with Death Battle's model right here. Compositing fighters and assuming that bloodlusting works the same for every fighter is a flawed model. At that point, you might as well throw fanfiction versions of characters at one another.
Reminder that obitogay is an autist from Otto’s discord, you can tell because he thinks that getting validation from TikTok for multiversal infinite speed naruto is actual validation.
Also he believes in the Kratos wank whole heartedly in spite of never having played any of the GOW games.
No, America lost. The national image is now troony breasts shaking in front of the white house while Brandon's cokehead spawn does lines in the oval office and funnels money through a losing proxy war. We're in a William Gibson novel.
No, America lost. The national image is now troony breasts shaking in front of the white house while Brandon's cokehead spawn does lines in the oval office and funnels money through a losing proxy war. We're in a William Gibson novel.
It only got hyped up cause without them, Madara had no real way to kill Aizen due to this regeneration (according to the episode). I don't see it being a factor in this fight, since it's not like he's immortal or boasts stupidly powerful regen or anything like that.
You know all those fricking VSBW nerds who say that every character is "outer" or "hyperversal beyond fiction"? Well I created my own tier. I call it: Jirenversal. Basically, a character is Jirenversal if Jiren had to use 0.00000000000001% of his power to instantly one shot said character. For reference, that's about 100 quintillion times more powerful than Darkseid going all out. How do i submit my tier to vsbattle wiki?
>List of characters that can kill the Phoenix according to Avengers 51
>Molecule Man
Well, duh.
>Thanos
LMFAO killed by Darkseid.
>Galactus
Yeah that makes sense since a starving Galactus stalemated Rachel Phoenix.
>Living Tribunal
Tracks.
>Beyonders
Tracks, though the White Hot Room version is above them, a universe level Phoenix should be beneath them.
>Scarlet Witch
Tracks, since Wanda rebooted reality including the Phoenix. LMFAO since she lost to Zatanna.
>Odin
Tracks.
>Thor
LMFAO lost to Wonder Woman. Also no, frick no, how is...oh, Jason Aaron wrote the book, now I get it.
>Maya Lopez
Well, that's more because she's the current host of the Phoenix Force, so yeah, like should beat like.
LMFAO that 1/3rd of the guys listed as Phoenix killers by Jason Aarron got dialed. Swanky Swank trying to get Brian over Sam by Phoenix scaling is such cope, the damned redcoat.
Question, if you're doing a character swap challenge (A does Y while B does X) what do you do if one character has a narrative nerf placed on them specific to that event?
Well would each event have one single timeline? Because you would get divergence that might get rid of the nerf or even make a whole new one either way. I.e a character who used diplomacy in one issue being replaced by one who uses brute force would end up changing things all together
Alright, so we got someone mad that Thor lost, someone mad that Rocket lost, and there used to be someone that wouldn't shut up about Wanda losing. Why are Marvel fans such sore losers? Harley lost, and I haven't seen any DC fan give a shit.
>They gave Stitch a shit speed advantage he shouldn't have
Ah, of course. Because Rocket having picosecond and Thanos level guns (both of which are wrong) was completely fair right? Even without the moronic speed calcs, Stitch was still way faster than Rocket, way stronger than him, and way more durable than anything the raccoon could throw at him. >B-but look at this gif of Stitch getting hit by a branch!
And now look at this gif of Stitch surviving a black hole imploding.
?t=1017 >B-but look at this gif of Stitch getting captured!
Now look at this video of Stitch running around every part of an island in seconds.
?t=1288
Are you that Oswald guy from the G1 blog who spent like, a whole two days arguing that Rocket should've won? If so, you should take a break dude, you seem emotionally devastated.
Aw shit, do we now have a name to associate with this autism? Fricker unironically seems to believe Stitch doesn't exist outside of his low ends.
>Honestly this battle is dissapointing on the same level as iron fist vs po. Iron fist has a gazillion heralds fears. Ehhh can't scale cause something something outliers. Po has zero country level feats and gets constantly beaten up by street tiers consistently. Eh is actually country level cause some scaling. Same thing with stitch being put at galaxy level and millions of times the speed light based one feat that's contradictory based on being harmed by far less and tagged by slower things. But hey i wouldn't mind if they treated rocket and marvel street tiers in the American way if they acknowledge they have a quanitllion more feats of dodging heralds. It's not a one time thing when the story itself states that "thor and hulk are stronger but spidermans superior speed and ability allows him to keep up". But for some reason there is this mental brainrot or mental block inside peoples heads and a vs debating rule that people break with marvel steet tiers all the times. No matter how many feats of keeping up speed wise they have people will always be like " NOoooo Outlier OutlieR ApIdzermAn Can't Be plAnk Time" but apparently po can be planet level with no feats I guess
I'm also mad Thor lost. They refuse to give him RKT (and ignored a shit ton of feats that show even base Thor breaks her) and gave him a speed far faster than Diana literally a few seasons later. They clearly were just shilling for the movie coming out.
>Jiren when he busts his fat loads onto the newly transitioned Martian Womanhunter with his mighty throbbing BGC, causing the entire DC Cosmology to kneel in fear
Can he beat Darkseid? That's the question here.
BITCHseid is all talk but no nuance, CHADren mogs his psuedo-semantics with his sheer presence
Jiren lost
the turtle ninjas are for the biker mice
Do you have any idea how unfair that is. The Biker Mice are veterans from Martian wars against Plutarkans, their motorcycles are basically military weapons. Not only that but their motorcycles don’t even need them to fight. They can literally bring down a skyscraper on paper just by towing the foundations or tow an underground bridge. They literally have a missile that works like a street shark. One of them can smash a tank apart. They have had buildings collapse on them and get up just fine
>Prime Time
>P1M
>Thought Robot
Step aside, losers
>Milkman Man
>Can't even taken take out Wonder Woman
>People still think you're hot shit because "muh metafiction"
Diana scales high
>Diana scales high
Planets are universe level, Batman is MFTL, <generic bullshit take> ...everything but the truth.
The sheer amount of stone-walling you have with these brainlets makes any engage to debate them pointless.
people don't know what "metafiction" is. they think it's a bloody power level
hey
Medaka Kurokami vs Milkman Superman
Wow, that was fast
Fang’s Egg Laying Scene (Primal) vs Made in Abyss Birth Scene (Made in Abyss)
Yeah I'm not doin that, anon
in fact, why do you want this anon. Is it a fetish thing
Illyasviel von Einzbern vs Nanoha Takamachi
Z Broly vs DCAU Justice League
Thank you.
Naruto when he was 6 years old vs Luffy when he was 7 years old vs Ichigo when he was 9 years old (lost his mom)
Ichigo's son would solo these 3.
Obviously
I’m pretty sure Luffy’s already rubber meaning he can just use regular punches at this age. Ichigo sees ghosts but that ain’t helping. And not sure what Naruto has as that age since Kurama is sealed
Ezra Flash vs Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern
Add Jennifer Garner's Elektra and Chris Hemsworth's Thor to this.
Good shit. Thanks.
Why Hemsworth Thor he was successful
Outside of crossovers, Thor movies are a mixed bag. Nobody else had to bear the indignity that was Love and Thunder, and nobody wants to suffer the slog that is The Dark World.
Do you still have the woodchuck vs woodsneed pic I asked you a few threads back? I forgot to save it in my PC.
How much seed could a woodsneed feed, if a woodsneed could feed seed?
V vs Carnage (Murder Drones vs Marvel)
Parappa vs Boyfriend (FNF)
I genuinely wonder who has to sing first for the battle to start
Thanks anyways
Nightmare (soul calibur) vs Clive (ff16)
Gene (Godhand) vs Touma (index)
Urho Kekkonen vs Nikita Khrushchev
Darth Vader vs Hitler
Horus Lupercal vs Roman Reigns
Fox Mulder vs Juhan af Gran
It's an unfair matchup but whatev.
Hazama (Blazblue) vs. Nahida (Genshin Impact)
Thanks!
Cain from Luther Strode vs Yujiro Hanma
Luther Strode vs Baki Hanma vs Ohma Tokita
Myth Typhon vs Myth Apep vs Myth Jormungandr
Ah, hello again, Anon
Miss America (Coonskin) vs The Health Inspector
Can she survive the man who broke superman?
Clementine (Overlord) vs the Annoying Orange
New Fable protagonist vs new Marathon protagonist
What are the connections lol
Also so far by feats the Fable brownmanoid wins, she kicked the ass of that giant.
Presumably "Classic franchises getting continuations with awful trailers".
Ender Wiggin vs Shinji Ikari
a bored college student in a zoom meet vs a disgruntled employee
Karl Marx vs the Marx Brothers
Carl Johnson vs Johnny Gat
Brolypotence vs Madara Uchiha copypasta
Nice, thanks.
Frick around, find out.
Poyo!
So how does “power level negates hax” translate to other universes, anyways? Seems like whenever its brought up, it’s only with DBZ characters negating non-DBZ hax, as if that’s some inherent ability tied specifically to characters with power levels, and non-DBZ characters who aren’t measured in power levels are given absolutely zero natural resistance against DBZ hax.
It's cope because DB is written by idiots.
That it's always brought up in the context of DBZ characters resisting DBZ hax should tell you something.
The only time a non-ki power was resisted was Vegito, and he only partially resisted it (he was still turned into a candy even though he could move).
Ryan Reynolds should win. I think he dumped his Parallax into the sun or something.
It's not a fight anyone wanted and in general the out of control swankery is driving people away. People probably clicked off when they saw the black box about peak Marvel humans being able to move faster than a nanosecond.
Otto do the 87 Turtles beat the Gargoyles
Leo once cut the top of the technodrome off while under water. Yes. The only advantage the Manhttan Clan has is that they fly (glide, technically), and the TMNT have answers to that. Vehicles, grapples, throwing stars, etc. And it's not like the Manhattan Clan can shoot lasers at them while gliding. Goliath is the only one they really have to worry about, and once weaker guys like Lexington and Broadway drop the TMNT can just gang up on Goliath
The moronic obsession with death and humiliation is also starting to bite them in the ass. No one wants to see either Rocket or Stitch bite it since they're so cute and lovable.
>No one wants to see either Rocket or Stitch bite it since they're so cute and lovable.
Otto confirmed for Disney shill.
Why does the underwater part matter?
Environmental pressure.
Have you ever tried throwing a punch in a pool?
Oh yeah that is harder than normal. Does any TMNT inspired media beat the OG?
>It's not a fight anyone wanted
Guess it's back to anime nobodies vs light novel nobodies then.
Goblin Slayer’s kinda cool. I don’t know why people want him to fight the Mandalorian though
Superman resisted magic from Mordru, erasure from Darkseid, and warping from Manhatten.
Rocket would not lose to Stitch unless you stripped Rocket of all his weapons.
Stitch us way smarter than rocket
So we're told. But never shown.
>”Stitch is way smarter then Rocket”
>The whole animation is Stitch gets outplayed until the ending
Well yeah the smart characters in this show tend to get shown being dumb unless it's a match that allows them to not go full Unga bunga like killua vs misaka. Which even though I hate that fight it did show them trying to be smart.
>Well yeah the smart characters in this show tend to get shown being dumb
So did the actual Lilo and Stitch show.
Ok.
That's just funny. Like the animation did depict stitch doing some smart stuff I take that back. He surfed an explosion and he used another explosions momentum to pierce rocket into his own gun. Overall the animation showed how durable stitch was and how creative he is. While fully showing rockets arsenal and tactics.
The animation gave Stitch more credit than his own franchise did.
What’s wrong with Killsaka, (besides the awful rigging, i already understand that).
What's wrong with killua is that I hate the matchup if they were gonna stomp killua it should've been a fight with someone from a series that I give a frick about. Misaka is a literal who.
>Misaka is a literal who.
Except that she's not, Otto.
Then explain why I never heard about her before this ep. I at least knew about accelerator due to the magneto matchup.
Idk she prolly doesn’t have that many good matchups and you’re a Cinemaphile gay secondary? The fact that you know accelerator but not her just goes to show you’re an idiot since his entire plot revolves around killing her and her clones.
Dude I didn't know shit about her accelerator. I only knew about him because of these threads. I actually knew killua because I've read hxh. I don't know how you'd expect me to be interested in railgun. It's not a Shonen or anything like dbz or bleach which are the mainly interesting animes.
The index show is a shonen and so is railgun. Comparing it to HxH, one of the most popular shonen ever, isn’t very fair. Also,
>shonengay
watch better anime please I’m begging you
It doesn't matter if there's better anime. What matters is what's hype. And I hate to break it to ya anime like railgun which has a female protag like misaka aren't gonna even come close to being as hype as goku screaming for 20 episodes.
I've watched anime before what are you talking about? I'm just saying railgun isn't hype nor worth caring about.
Also cartoons > anime for the most part.
Holy shit do you even know what that's about
I know what railguns about. There's a buncha psychics and there's 1 guy with the ability to cancel psychic powers. Kinda like black clover now that I think about it. But also like black clover I gave it one episode before thinking that it sucked. Most anime nowadays have cool ideas but end up sucking to me. Like my hero academia or one punch man.
Every anime/manga you just listed are fricking trash tiger garbage. Name a single decent anime that’s not dragon ball, I’ll wait. Also don’t you realize all your precious cartoons were heavily influenced by anime?
I know you anime fans are either pedos or basement dwellers so I'll post one you think is good.
Never really got into made in abyss funny you call me a pedo when American cartoons have troony shit in it everywhere.
>pedo
implying Cinemaphile doesn’t have threads trying to sexualize children’s cartoon characters that are also children. Loudhouse threads are an obvious example. Also
>basement dweller
Says the homosexual posting on Cinemaphile
Threads from wierdos about cartoon characters is a bit different than an entire show where the underage characters are sexualized. Face it the only anime that matter are dbz bleach naruto and one piece.
It's clearly meant to make the viewer uncomfortable
Well troony shit like steven universe makes you uncomfortable right? But it's ok when anime makes you uncomfortable? Get outa here. At least if I limit myself to cartoons I don't have to be exposed to it double the time.
You come across as an ESL
>this one scene from the e-girlguro anime from the medium full of pedo pandering is supposed to be uncomfortable and not erotic, actually
lol, comma, lmao
That's not even what it's fricking called you absolute asshat
Bro, you're spreading yourself too thin.
I don’t even like railgun or index but the least you could do is know what ur shitposting about.
>shonengay
>thinks cartoons are better than anime
didnt know it was possible to have such shit taste wow I’m impressed.
Ah yea man pic related is so much better than cartoons. And if you don't think like that? It's a anime image board get better taste.
>one of the most popular ln series in Japan
>her manga spin-off and it’s anime adaptation that is even more popular than the original source material
At least pretend like you know what you’re talking about
So popular the DB is nowhere near 1 million views after two (2) weeks
Yeah, I'm not trusting 'sales reports'
>One of the most popular series in Japan
No one cares about Japan. Not even the Japanese. Electric Waifu Feed Match was sucked, and the dumb dumbs that suggested it and passed it need to be taken out back by their WB bosses and curbstomped for letting their dicks burn company money.
O thank frick, I thought I was the only one who found Misaka's animation to be shit
My problem is that neither Killua or Misaka vented their frustrations on a vending machine for no reason.
I'll give Stitch one advantage and one advantage only: Rocket would logically have no idea that none of his weapons would be able to kill Stitch directly, and there is a 1% chance that Rocket wouldn't be able to figure that out until it's too late.
Damn, someone is actually upset at Stitch winning.
Wrong is wrong.
>Stitch gets bodied by Optimus Prime, still manages to do a whole movie
>Rocket spends the whole of GOTG3 on his back because his genetics that were used to save his life were under corporate copyright protection
Cope.
Adam Warlock could easily beat Stitch.
Comics yes, movie no. He also easily beats Rocket. Honestly, most of Rocket's teammates over the years easily beat him. It's almost like he's not terribly strong or durable, and just has a big gun and is kind of clever.
>It's almost like he's not terribly strong or durable, and just has a big gun and is kind of clever.
Stitch has been captured by infinitely less competent people.
Rocket has had his shit pushed in by clowns. Literal clowns.
Stitch, with his FTL reaction time, has had his shit pushed in by a tree branch.
Just like Goku.
He's not trying to fight here, and without Swank, neither he nor Rocket are FTL.
He doesn't need to "try to fight." Just not get smacked and then captured.
You also forget
where Gantu literally just walked up to him and caught him.
In one episode he got captured and stuck in a crane game.
Rocket could literally just throw a net on Stitch and win with Stitch's track record.
Well, yeah, he's not bloodlusted in any of the scenarios you mentioned.
Nobody said he had to be bloodlusted. Just competent.
Stitch gets captured so much its not even funny.
Maybe it's his kink. Don't be hating.
Why do you rely on the first 20 minutes of the movie when Stitch would logically get stronger and more capable with age
Supercomputer brain and reaction time guys
How could Rocket ever hope to defeat Stitch with his lightspeed reaction time?
Weebs act like people in the west read vns and know what is supposededly popular outside of dbz naruto and one piece.
You’re on an anime image board homosexual
Gargoyles are bio-magic enhanced and have super strength, super senses, and super agility. They win.
Turtles are ooze enhanced stats wise and know martial arts
Well I am a black guy that's probably why I think the big 3 are the best anime has to offer. But I also have the entire physical manga of berserk if that's anything.
I mean even if you look at the better view count anime eps there's a trend for these so called trash anime doing better for views than some niche anime.
I just think this would be funny to watch. Imagine the Smile entity getting it's face torn off
>When will we get REAL ninja kino?
SOON tm
What the frick are you gays talking about
I like anime just not shit anime
Yotsuba isn't anime AND thankfully never will
Sorry bud pic related literally outclassed anything that most anime have to offer
Realistically speaking, Obito should be able to mind frick Vader in sage of six paths mode, because he has access to a deeper state of mind. The bijuus state it so.
Obito could even drag Vader there.
unsure since in the canon Comics, Vader's mental connection with the force becomes so strong that he leaves his physical body as an avatar of the Dark side and literally time travels through time and dimensions, even at one point attempting to kill child Anakin and later foresaw his own future battle with Ahsoka
Post the feat.
Abstract form Vader
begins time traveling, finds self on Tatooine and tries to kill himself, but is stopped by the Force
1
2
Further time traveling through life events
sees battle with Ahsoka, which hadn't happened yet when the comic took place chronologically
finally, he sees Luke
the implication was that this whole thing was introspective and abstract
It's a dream anon, stop wanking.
Looks more like a lump of flesh with force limbs.
But isn't Obito multiversal?
No? Like the only person you could even wank to being that high would be Kaguya, but she's explicitly far stronger than even Madara, who's much stronger than Obito (even his 10 Tails form)
Obito was able to stand and run in the gravity dimension. Kaguya jobbed there.
Isn't the point of Kaguya was that she dumped all her points in chakra/ninjutsu stuff but she sucks in physical / other stuff? Hence why Madara was vastly more of a threat than Kaguya and he only got fricked over because of plant man specifically?
She had raw power but little to no technique. A contrast from madara who even with no eyes managed to escape from sasuke
Sakura harmed kaguya
and she'd likely kill Juubito with the same punch since her punches are bullshit strong even without her forehead seal undone, plus physical, brute-force attacks are one of the only few things that even hurt 6 Paths characters (also we know her hurting Kaguya at all was PIS. It's dumb but Kishimoto wanted to include the whole Team 7 shit)
These Ootsutsiki fellas aren't all that powerful.
You could probably swank both Vader and Obito to multiverse, but it's more likely they'll swank Vader to that level before Obito.
This seems like a dream/vision quest, and unless we start admitting those as evidence this whole sequence doesn't seem to mean anything
lambs to the cosmic slaughter
Discuss matchups and poist your own lists
Frick off listroon
The only worthwhile matchup here is Ryu vs Goku.
What is Monika even going to do? She isn’t warping reality she’s fricking with game files, she’s delete key tier.
Bring me Superman
Obito could drag Vader by the force.
The sheer moronation tr/a/nnies spew in a desperate attempt to look like oldgays is just plain embarrassing
CHADgon CHAD is all that matters.
>Stitch vs Rocket has barely passed 500k views in 24 hours
It is not looking good. Is it a flop?
It's no Skyrim vs Dark Souls, but I think at this point Misaka vs Killua was at 400k or something. It should hit a million around a week, and certainly before MvK does.
it's definitely one of the big three albeit the bottom one
Bleach IS top tier. Both in quality and in power.
It is. Name another anime with this fine of women
Is that a man
You wish
Who should Luffy fight now that he has toon force?
Naruto. its not like his toon force puts him on the level of beating up the animator or turning off existence with a light switch.
Gon
I’m pretty sure Pre Timeskip Luffy already beats Adult Gon
Gon deserves it
Historical figures in Death Battle. Yes or no? I would wanna see something with Shaka Zulu
We already had that, it was Deadliest Warrior. Plus they wouldn't have gorillatons of tnt and septillion times ftl feats to lean on for the animation, so it would be two guys grazing each other with their arsenal before someone gets a good hit.
That sounds much better than fights with TNT and laser dodging
Not really, it would be Jason vs. Michael 2, Electric Boogaloo.
That had bigger problems
Ned Kelly vs Sam Steele could be pretty cool. Australia's national hero, a robber, vs a Canadian national hero, a cop. Have it come out on May 1 for the anniversary of the Treaty of Union.
Anyone else notice Wiz getting a lot more focus this season? There’s a lot of “science” MUs for him to gush over, and he’s also getting more character development in how he’s trying (and failing) to make jokes instead of just being the straight man all the time. I wonder if this is gonna lead to another Macho vs Koolaid situation, where one episode, he just snaps, and laments over being less popular than Boomstick, so he goes to his old “college professors” (Rick and the Doctor) for advice on how to get his life back together.
I really hope you're wrong because that would be cringe as hell, but I also sort of want to to happen to see what the view count would be like. Would the matchuo be able to carry, or would the format of MM vs KAM doom another episode?
frankly they should have gotten rid of wiz and boomstick forever ago. as characters they're one-not jokes and a distraction from the fights which is the only reason people tune in in the first place.
Tbh they were enjoyable in seasons 1-3 as they had that pre-astroturfed geek culture charm to it, the animated avatar shit is CRINGE as hell tho
Pretty much. It was better without the avatars.
The only reason why the avatars were made is to make an eventual Wiz vs Boomstick matchup they've been wanting to make in years (which in my opinion they should've done it years ago)
It's not really a match. Boomstick has speed force and toon force last I checked.
Yeah so if they do this its probably just gonna be some shit like Kool Aid Man vs Macho Man where they reflect on the show's history
I'm hoping someone more competent purchases the rights to Death Battle, or at least continues its legacy, maybe it won't have to end with Death, maybe it could just be like One Minute Melee and be more story-focused and less about the dick measuring
It'll probably end in death but then the victor revives the other. They have enough hax between them that either could do it.
Wiz and Boomstick need to go away so it stops detracting from the episode
I hope sakura is next. Since women hate her too, I hope they give her one of the most brutal deaths on the show. In fact 90% of the budget should go directly to her death animation
https://www.capeworldcomics.com/comic/usa/
Happy 4th, I did an incredibly autistic deep dive on a hyper obscure golden age superheroine. There's a section at the bottom for using her in vs battles.
When the hell does the podcast talk about Uncle Sam? I'm interested in what they have to say.
It’s already up on YouTube
>Swank jerk offs Captain Britain because MUH PHOENIX
>"Oh, but Uncle Sam is only that powerful on the iconosphere"
>Doesn't scale Sam to Superman
>Excalibur killing generic hunger and death spirits means Excalibur can kill Sam
>Brian got his ass beat by Mad Jim Jaspers, so he scales to them.
Can we deport Swank?
Only McBain can defeat Swank.
the patriots of the nation you cherish plan a different end than you're thinking of
the america the founding fathers sought is no longer with us, accept the descent of the west and its mythologies or ROT in your hubris
That's true.
But it still doesn't change that Swank is a NYCon that needs to be sent over the Atlantic.
What a total homosexual. You know how you can tell "death by war" isn't the same as Uncle Sam? Did people stop dying in wars after Brian shanked him?
Infinite Speed Captain Britain is some bullshit, especially when under the same logic Sam has beyond infinite speed due to Superman scaling.
The America the founding fathers wanted was stupid anyways
I don't think he cares about the characters, he just wants to win debates. You know, like an autist.
Oh yeah i agree the fans should at least acknowledge the possibility of him and the staff rigging matchups and bookings in their little discord circlejerk to be "legit", you have no idea how many moronic troons think death battle has any integrity left, its astonishing how you have morons use the "it's just a _, stop treating it with logic" fallacies but then bootlick a whole company who operates by that system and defend it through their circlejerked linguistics about binary psuedoscience
God i miss Mali and one minute melee, they actually had passion for it
Swan needs to be dethroned, we need one of our guys in there.
If one of our guys were in there, he'd call someone a homosexual and get tossed immediately.
Reasons Sam should shitstomp.
>Excalibur has never killed something on the level of Sam before. Death by war/hunger/pain are nowhere near iconosphere Sam. Iconosphere level Sam is on the level of MJJ or Phoenix, two beings that shitstomped Brian.
>Sam would know everything about Brian, as he can freely travel the multiverse (Precrisis) and knows everything any American knows, so he has all of Marvel Earth's SWORD and SHIELD files on him.
>Sam is boosted way above Excalibur Brian in the heartland and iconosphere.
>Sam doesn't lose any strength by fighting defensively and running away. In fact, he's quite use to fighting guerilla style due to his time on Earth-X. But Brian does.
tldr: Sam pops into the Heartland where he's God, says "Come get me, redcoat." and Brian either has to run straight to where Sam is most powerful and can overwhelm him with environmental control or he loses powers because he's not confident anymore. Sam wins for the same reason Darkseid beat Thanos.
Any centralized government is inherently flawed. The point is that the Founding Fathers allowed for an unprecedented level of decentralization. They didn't even want a regular army.
Otto raises a good point here. Sam doesn't lose strength by being unsure of himself. Brian does. If Brian tries to teleport out of the iconsphere/heartland, he's taking a big hit to his confidence and power. And wasn't this how the minutemen beat the redcoats anyway?
If his strategy requires momentary retreat for better ground and kiting, why would that affect his confidence?
Yeah it should, especially when it's an American spirit telling him he's a sissy boy.
"Come fight me in Iconosphere, redcoat."
"N-No Uncle Sam, come fight me in Avalon..."
Brian either nuts up and fight Sam in the place of his power, where he didn't just match Spectre but beat him, or he runs like a sissy while being taunted about it. He's going to take a confidence hit.
Why wouldn't Brian be the one baiting? It's not like Britain is the empire with anything to lose. Sam would leave immediately if any American interests or patriots wrre threatened. He's being the sissy
Sam doesn't lose any power by ducking into another place. But Brian does lose power if he chickens out.
There are two responses Brian has to Sam going to the heartland.
1. He stays away, in which case his confidence takes a hit. He may no longer be worthy of wielding Excalibur. At any rate, he's now slim pickings for Sam.
2. He goes to the heartland, where he gets taken part because Sam can freely shape the environment just like Mad Jim Jaspers who kicked Brian's ass.
3. He strategically refuses to enter and begins wrecking US military installations and servicemen to bait out Sam. They are supernational avatars at war, after all
I know heroes do a lot of shit on death battle, but I don't see Brian Braddock doing that. That's some straight supervillain shit.
That's some straight warfare shit, son. You don't get supernational avatars fighting to the death without some implications on the side
Sam says no. He's the spirit of libertarianism and military downsizing as well as military industrial interests, after all.
Huh. If Brian went around wrecking international US bases under the guise of "fighting colonialism" would that work? Is Sam obliged to defend American bases in Japan, Europe, and Africa?
He'd do it as 'defending the realm'. What does it mean for Britain if Avalon falls?
Even better, Brian takes The Declaration of Independence and burns it. Sam would have to stop being a pussy.
Sam doesn't lose power by not being confident in his abilities. In fact, as others have said, he spent years fighting a guerilla war on Earth-X. If we allow Brian to go so far outside the battle that he's attacking America, then Sam can do the same and kill Merlin and shit on Big Ben.
Sam spent years LOSING a guerrilla war on Earth X. And Brian's confidence isn't affected by Sam being a pussy and running from a fight. As soon as he baits him out, Brian and Sam are on even footing, as Brian confidently planned. And if Sam did run away, allowing Brian to destroy the American artefacts of power, it's Sam who gets weakened
You morons lost this for Sam by having him behave like a b***h lmao
>Losing a guerilla war on Earth X
Yes, because Earth X is anathema for patriotic American feelings.
>Brian's confidence isn't affected by Sam running away
But it is affected by his choice of response.
>Baits him out
Sam has no reason to leave the Heartland, and the process of baiting Sam out will both hurt Brian's confidence, as he's virtually admitting he can't take Sam head-on, and disqualify him from using Excalibur, as murdering a shit ton of innocent people does not make you worthy of wielding it.
If Brian tries to bait out Sam, his power levels plummet.
>American artifacts of power
Sam just scoops them into the Heartland.
>Earth X is anathema for patriotic American feelings.
the freemasons don't exist in Earth X?!
Only the Axis had superheroes in the form of Baron Blitzkrieg. America had gotten curbstomped by the Nazis before Sam and the Freedom Fighters jumped from Earth-2 so Sam was stuck at weenie mode over in Earth-X.
This is the big comparison for me. Beating up the Specter is far more impressive than being a speed bump to the Phoenix, and not the whole multiversal Phoenix either. The rest of the fight is just wiggling around that central comparison.
The freemasons are anathema to patriotism. The Great Work doesn't allow it
In any case, Hitler smashed America after winning WW2 on Earth X, and likely executed freemasons
Also, Uncle Sam's secret society of choice call themselves 'the Patriots' and appear occasionally opposed to freemasons
Sam has no ability to act from the Heartland. It's why he always needs to play Phantom Stranger and appeal to others to act for him. He's not pulling shit inside. And, as shown in previous stories, destroying American artefacts weakens him, worse even than kryptonite on Superman. Brian has no reason to lose any confidence when he has the superior strategy that doesn't involve running and hiding like a b***h
>destroying American artefacts weakens him
brian must impale the declaration of independence on the washington monument's capstone. he must then throw the washington monument like a spear through the capitol and the white house and it will ricochet into the statue of liberty. would sam survive that?
He'd survive as a powerless old man. Depending on the nation's response, possibly on life support... or making like Hulkster.
This.
The fight is Darkseid vs Thanos again where one guy can't lose in his seat of power, because he's got feats beating characters similar to what runs over the other guy, and the other guy can't help but fight him there.
You can't even say Sam wouldn't know to do this, because Sam knows anything any American knows, which means he knows about Brian and Excalibur and Avalon and all that.
He doesn't even need to fight Brian directly. He can just drop Americana imagery on his head until he finds a good opportunity to teleport behind him and do to Excalibur what he did to Specter's arm.
Goddamn you are dumb.
He's picked up by a red sun by aliens as the story starts. They don't know how he got there. The reader doesn't know how he got there. It's implied that it might be from exerting himself after he merged with the Rann super computer and did a boxing match under a red sun.
While the aliens take care of him, one of them, a telepath, looks through his memories. The missile is one of the memories.
The missile did not knock him out. The missile did not hurt him. A kindergartener has better reading comprehension than you do, listroon. The missile happened months or even years before the story started.
Gawandaland has reprinted a few of them.
It's weird looking at how the Quality set ended up. There's a wide distribution of fates.
>Sam
Essentially unchanged, but minus Buddy, which is a shame because he always had such interactions with Sam.
>Human Bomb
Beaten to death by Bizarro.
>Plastic Man
Is relatively used a lot, but his personality is completely different. DC basically turned him into Ace Ventura.
>Doll Man
Went insane.
>Jester
Turned out to secretly be evil.
>Spider
Same as Jester.
>Red Torpedo
Had a good life, created a floating city.
Are you suggesting Brian starts killing Americans to lure Sam out? That's pretty OOC, even for DB, and would instantly make Excalibur turn on him since its selective.
The Jester that turned out to be evil was the original's grandson. Spider I'm cool with, and Doll Man got better. The one that pisses me off is Invisible Hood.
i never said the missile is what knocked him out before the ayys found him. aren't you supposed to be a teacher you stupid b***h? get some better reading comprehension
nah
Rate it
10/10 Sovl.
What kinda shit would you wanna see in it?
I mean, let's think of all the cool shit that could happen in this fight. Primarily on watching how their arsenals interact.
>Furno putting on his Breakout upgrade to take the fight underwater, only for Tahu's adaptive armor to kick in
>Tahu getting his mask knocked off only to pull a fast one by
>Furno using his 2.0 ice shield to put out an inferno
>Tahu trying to use his Komau to control Furno but it fails due to Furno's strong will and XL's anti-mind control capabilities
>Force-field-off with Hero Core vs Hau
>Tahu surfing on lava against Furno's bike
>Furno using his thermal goggles to get past Tahu's Mahiki copies
>Furno using his fire sword's durability negation capabilities to
>Furno overcharging his core
>Furno whipping out the fricking jet machine
I'd honestly say that the fight is kinda unique because Furno has way more equipment than Tahu, but Tahu also has his masks and adaptive armor which really helps him keep up in the versatility category.
What's with you and Quality characters lately?
They will bring back Goku on the show once the views start dipping dangeriously low.
More views=more normalgays in.
They have Goku VS Superman 3 in the in case of emergency break glass case
Still weird how they haven't brought Goku back. He has some pretty good matchups besides Superman that would probably bring in nice views, but they still keep him retired.
What do you mean? He's shown up a lot.
>GVS1
>GVS2
>Goku Black
>GT Goku in Xeno Trunk VS Silver
Might be another I am forgetting
Anon, I want Goku to lead an episode, to have him actually fight someone. Small cameos are not really worth talking about.
If they do anything but Goku vs. Superman 3, people are going to be spamming the comments about doing it again because Ultra Instinct, and whatever new form he'll get in the Freeza Black arc to overcome him if it's out by then. It's why they keep trotting out Vegeta, he's just as strong, if not actually physically stronger, he's got the pull for views, and they don't get spammed with him losing to Supes again. Next DBZ match will probably be Vegito vs. Composite Superman.
Don't forget that there were 2 Gokus in Gogeta vs. Vegito
I just want Goku vs Jin Mori. Fricking hell.
And it probably won't happen until they do Heroes Goku vs. Superman, or the Vegito vs. Composite Superman, so they don't get accused of wasting Goku on another fight. Not that anyone can be wasted on a fight since Vegeta had 3 or 4, Batman has done 4, and if they really wanted to they could have a whole season of one guy fighting a variety of foes.
Which is stupid. If they actually want to make Goku vs Superman 3, it should be the final episode of the show. Not using Goku again is pretty fricking stupid.
They've mentioned a bunch of times now they want to bring Goku back and fight someone else. Ignore the liar
They say a lot of things. I'm telling you if they don't put a final nail in the Goku vs. Superman debate, there are going to be people crying about wasting him on someone else. And it's honestly the same for Superman, if they wanted to trot out a Superman vs. Saitama, people would be upset it's not Supes vs. Goku. Hell look at this thread when a new match is announced, half of it turns into people b***hing it isn't the match they wanted for one or both halves.
They backing down from infinite fictionational+++++ superman would be glorious.
A whole five minutes of them showing how inconsistent Superman is with jobbing to a one megaton bomb, several nukes, moon level, planet level explosions and saying he cannot destroy a world would be a great wake up call for DC homosexuals
I can guarantee that if Goku wins, everyone would cheer since no one unironically really likes superman. They just feel they have to cuz america.
Its like Pac-Man, no one really likes the character, they just respect he kinda led to other more popular games being made later on.
Listtroon, please stop talking. You are a dipshit of the highest order. Stop hiding behind Dragon Ball.
We just had Universal Chosen Undead and Universal / Multiversal Rocket Raccoon. Why would you think they'd start backing down when they've gone full throttle into moron wank?
Because DC shot themsleves in the feet with the cosmology revision.
As of now, Superman only scales to 52 timelines at his best.
If Superman was actually liked, the DCEU/DC Universe wouldnt be being rebooted every 10 years.
>DC shot themselves
Pic related is Listroon when he learns that VSBW's fanfic division in continuity is not acknowledged or accepted by DC themselves.
Sorry homosexual, but Monitor Mommy upscales, not downscales.
I can do this all day
The rocket in the story wasn't what knocked out Superman. The alien is seeing memories of what Superman did back on Earth lightyears away and years in the past.
You moronic non-reader.
>beginning of his career right after the Crisis nerfed him
That's like pointing out Saiyan Saga Vegeta gets his tail cut off by Yajirobe. You can do better listtroon.
literally all day
not that anon but the implication is clearly that even moving the missile was a tough job and the explosion most likely messed him up
How did you come to that? Because he made a face while doing it?
Are you that desperate? That you're doing grimace scaling now? In the same mini where he beats the Flash in a race and holds all the information in the universe in his head?
For a capegay, you sure don't read comics. Supes gets his shit pushed in by random shit all the time despite showing he's stronger than that. No one cares about powers scaling when writing, he could destroy 64 universes in one punch in one panel then get knocked out by lightning in the next if the writer wants to. The comic frames it like he got knocked out by the rocket. Unless it was stated otherwise later, that's how it looks like. Only a homosexual like you would care if this makes him look weak.
He's making a face because he can hear everyone back on Earth. The explosion didn't do anything to him. At this point in the story, he's several light years away from Earth in a distant galaxy after leaving Earth in issue 1 to find a lost girl. He passed Rann in issue 2 I think.
he's making a face because he's struggling to overpower the thrust of the missile. quit making shit up
they already gave hulk the sex calcs and scaled other characters to THAT lmao
>Its like Pac-Man, no one really likes the character, they just respect he kinda led to other more popular games being made later on.
KYS
You absolute moron. Goku and Superman are both liked for different reasons. The fact that you cannot grasp this only makes you seem like a giant b***h.
Delusional takes like this mean nothing. When will some of you learn that they pick matches with no consideration towards an audience?
>just had a poll to pick two matches for this season
No, surely they don't care at all about the audience. They just do what Lord Swan wills. It's about half and half, half are popular matches, the other half are things they think will be fun or make a great animation, or are personal ones they want to see.
If they did a Goku vs Superman 3 with Goku as the winner, that episode will get a frick ton of views, beaners will guarantee it.
Obito>Madara.
Sakura>Obito
kek instill remember the mockery she got when this chapter released. What a worthless c**t.
Nothing compared when kishi almost made karin sarada's mom. The threads were glorious kek
Those years were the only time I came close from giving up Cinemaphile so I missed that fun. Came back to this series around the part Naruto and Delta started fighting.
>Sasuke wants to bring back his clan
>Sakura is so useless that she popped out an Uchiha who needs fricking glasses
>Sasuke forgets about his clan
>Sasuke wants to bring back his clan
>only impregnates a single woman
>its the ugliest, least likeable woman in the village
>abandons her immediately and never has anymore kids
man it must suck to have your clan slaughtered only for the last survivor to be a deeply closeted gay man.
At least he opened up the avenue to make another sage of six paths if she fricks Bort
Boruto doesn't need that he's already full alien.
Naruto did more sasuke than sakura ever did. Remember when everyone was trapped inside obito shield? His only concern was saving himself, taka, and naruto. In fact he tried to kill sakura before his battle with naruto
Sarada will pick up the slack.
Darth Vader should have a match against a real villain.
Didact is for Javik
Yeah Ming the merciless, frick would've even taken Megatron or Khan even, do these people even know about the roots of these genres and the cultures surrounding them? or do they just look at the 90s/80s and go "WOW ZOMG LE RETRO BLAST TO THE PAST!!! I DIDN'T KNOW SYNTHPUNK CAPESHIT TRANSFORMERS HE-MAN EXISTED YAS 8-BIT BASED NOSTALGIA REFERENCE!!! FRICK MY WIFE HARDER TYRONE!!!!"
>do an episode like three homosexuals spam on your discord
>”oh wow this must be very popular”
>fight bombs
>this happens twice in a row
They gotta leave their hugbox once in a while, go and find out what people are actually requesting. And no, r/deathbattle and r/deathbattlematchups aren’t people.
Also:
>they actually scaled rocket to Thanos
People joked about that and then it actually happened, unbelievable.
It really make cape matches boring to even talk about if they are going to do shit like scale Rocket to Thanos. You can scale anybody to anybody else with enough work
>obitards still spamming
You’re going to lose and incessantly posting the same pics isn’t going to reverse that
>Loses
>Is still the coolest guy
In the end he won.
>kills his parents
>primary reason why his childhood was shit
>partially responsible for the death of jiraiya and countless others
>le coolest guy
At least goku has the excuse of having brain damage but why is naruto such a cuck?
EVEYRONE ON THIS THREAD KNEELS TO THE OMNIPOTENT ELITE
Listtroon, everybody hates you.
I'm not listtroon, homosexual
now kneel to the AZURE OMNIPOTENCE
Listtroon finna go on a 3 day rant about Superman again
Well, I am going to rest. My minions, please tear listtroon a new one.
This is a day for Real Americans brother
>Hulkamania and Macho Madness being a fundamental force of the Multiverse
>The Ultimate warrior ripping the gates of heaven in half
>Undertaker with the books of the dead
>Vince defeating God in a tag team match
I am 100% fully convinced that the double double e is the only thing equal to Capeshit in terms of bullshit
the hulkster has no qualms with japan. he loves japan in fact
Aw, whats wrong, cape?
Run out of steam?
>Please respond Otto I'm so lonely
Even when lowballed to hell, Supes can lift more than Goku.
And let’s not forget this.
Enraged superman caused a small quake
40 metric tons > 2 US tons
Peak superman barely shakes the planet with his blows.
Cool. At least he didn’t het killed in his (at the time) strongest form by a fricking stormtrooper though. Unlike some other weak b***hes
For every feat there is an antifeat
Most of Stitch's feats are pure durability and some super strength.
He did build a mech once sure but it wasnt stronger than Rockets weapons.
Kinks can lead to defeat.
Can you truly be defeated if you're doing what you love?
He goes too far.
He even gets captured by people from other franchises.
He has a problem.
This is reminding me of comics from the 50s where the plots revolved around deathtraps/bondage shenanigans. I think Otto dumped one of them in here a little while ago? A human torch sorta fellow?
The Ray. Apologies that his file isn't as comprehensive as USA.
https://www.capeworldcomics.com/comic/the-ray/
Quality didn't have much lewd bondage. Phantom Lady was pretty tame under their pen, and they didn't have any scantily clad jungle girls. Fox Features was probably the lewdest, mostly because they had Mat Baker drawing girls.
Finally decided to flesh out my take on the Quality verse. I picked them because the Quality set probably had the rawest deal out of all of DC's acquisitions.
Earth-S was just the Fawcett universe with everyone coming out of a suspendium coma so they'd be up-to-date.
Earth-4 was even more untouched. I don't think the Charleton set even had a crossover prior to COIE. They were spared becoming edgelords for life under Moore due to editorial.
But Quality kind of got a bum deal. They didn't start with a universe of their own. They stared on Earth-2 with all the National Comics guys. Then they got to go to Earth-X to fight Nazis forever. It felt kind of limiting, like they got to carry the Freedom Fighters vs Nazis bag forever, when really they didn't fight Nazis anymore than any other golden age group.
give me my my life baaack
i will take whats gone
HOW
HOWD WE COME THIS FAAAAR
AND WHY DID WE SURVIVEEEEE
ID RATHER LIVE MY LIFE THROUGH HONEST EEEEYEEEEESSS
>Pre OWAW
Listroon, just rope already.
doesnt look very infinite to me
It's well beyond any strength feat in most media. Even if you figure he's half the power and not the full power, with GL giving him a way to hold the whole planet, the mass of the Earth is 5.9736×10 to the 24th kg and half that would be 2.9868x10 to the 24th kg.
Here is Vegeta failing to lift 1000 tons in SSJ, even giving Blue a million times the power, it's still absolutely nothing compared to Superman lowballed on this attempt at 1 billion tons. Goku is roughly equal to Vegeta in physicality, he just has more technique to his fighting, so it's presumable he's just as strong physically, and even using kaikoen to multiply his strength 100 more times he's still only at 100 billion.
well that's Super manga Bejita, everyone in the Super manga are weak jobbers because Toyotaro is a hack
angry supes btw
Not sure exactly what you're conveying here, Supes survived the explosion of an Imperiex Probe that parted the ocean, destroyed Atlantis, and killed Aquaman without a scratch.
You might have an impact if you ascend your anti-feats, starting at the lowest and work your way up. Showing when he was weak post crisis doesn't work after you showed him putting in at least a third to a half of pulling the planet twice.
It actually did not destroy Poseidonis, or kill Aquaman
Listroon might realize one day that post-crisis Superman was nerfed compared to pre and wouldn't reach full parity with him until he threw down with Kal-L during Infinite Crisis.
Under this very dark scenario, Sam still has the advantage.
He doesn't lose one iota of power fighting like a minuteman. If anything, guerilla war is his bread and butter. He can blitz london with McDonalds happy meals 24/7 without leaving the heartland. But waging such a war is a direct hit to Brian's confidence, who only achieves max power by being UNGA BUNGA ME PUSH BACK SPACE BIRD ALONE DO NOT HELP ME I SHALL NOT FAIL.
Even max confidence Brian flags fast. He was able to push the Phoenix back, and immediately collapsed, nearly dying if he didn't get carried away. That's laughable compared to beating the Specter without a scratch. Brian has no prayer against max power Sam, even if you give him Excalibur, and if he ducks max power Sam, his confidence dips way below push-the-Phoenix level.
Well, it's hard, since he doesn't understand posting random things from disrespect threads doesn't work well if he doesn't know what they are. It's all the estrogen flooding his brain I suppose, all emotion, no logic.
if you're going to reply to me at least post a feat that isn't one of his lower stuff?
>sea turns red
>splits
bravo, DC
Superman has always been space Moses.
Goku is space Ramses correct?
Goku is also Moses.
Ramses is Lex.
>No ability to act from the Heartland.
He does, which is how the Freedom Fighters were able to use it as their Carrier.
>Brian has no reason to lose any confidence
He does. The comparison here would be murdering mutant telepaths to weaken the Phoenix vs fighting the Phoenix directly. Guess which path he picked and why he did it.
Furthermore, Uncle Sam is canonically friends with John Bull. Brian's confidence would be shaken just from the fact he's fighting a true friend of England in Uncle Sam, and if he's going around attacking American institutions his confidence will be shaken further as he's haring innocent people. What would his old roomate Peter Parker say about him invading Washington?
Excalibur would likely not even work for Brian in the first place, as Uncle Sam is a friend to the very spirit of England and is highly selective about who wields it and for what. The moment he starts attacking Washington, it's not working for him period. Dr. Doom had to run a complex scheme involving binding his armor to the blood of King Arthur just to lift it.
Such caitiff acts are not the acts of Captain Britain.
Reread the OYL Freedom Fighters mini. Sam couldn't even leave the Heartland under his own power without murmuring to Firebrand to start some shit. It's not usable like you think
All that 'friends' nonsense goes out the window once a Death Battle between the avatars of Britain and America is declared. That's a war, and militaries are not innocent. Further, the documents that define America are not innocents, so Brian's strategy wouldn't affect Brian in any way, while weakening Sam for as long as he remains a hidey b***h
Why do you want Sam to lose this bad?
>All that 'friends' nonsense goes out the window once a Death Battle between the avatars of Britain and America is declared. That's a war, and militaries are not innocent.
I actually really appreciate this argument, because it's not just about stats and pushing. It's a semantics argument about what qualifies a war or not. I would say that a Death Battle between the avatars of Britain and America would not qualify as a war, for the same reason that Biden and Charles the Third getting into a fistfight wouldn't be a war.
They are the embodiment of the spirit of their nation, and if they die, so does their nation
Make no mistake: this is war
If its war then Uncle Sam gets to call in his soldiers.
Then Brian gets the entire Captain Britain Corps. I'm sure they'll have no problem fighting Doll Man and Black Condor
>He doesn't know Uncle Sam is a card carrying member of the All-Star Squadron
CBC gets soloe'd by Alan Scott.
The All-Star Squadron. Who were defeated by the King Bee and the Monster. Yeah.
Sam explicitly left the All-Stars when he formed the Freedom Fighters
This is another fascinating argument. Can we define the American nation? Are we using it interchangeably with geography, as in the death of Uncle Sam would lead to the death of everybody in the Continental United States? Good time to be an Alaskan. And how would that work with Ireland?
Comedy option, a complete nuclear holocaust annihilates both the United States and the United Kingdom before Uncle Sam and Captain Britain throw a single punch.
Sam was able to have the FF come and go freely at the end of the mini. It became their base of operations. They even had a little house there.
>Friends nonsense goes out the window
It doesn't, not when one person's strength is literally tied to their confidence and self-image, not when one person has a sword so selective that normal people with normal codes of conduct can't even pick it up.
Brian has to see himself in a certain way, in a certain light, for him to use his full power. Sam doesn't. Sam simply is, and as Brother Jonathan demonstrates, doesn't have to hold to any sort of morality beyond MY COUNTRY to retain his powers.
>The documents that define America are not innocents.
Brian is going to have to walk into the capitol, beat aside the guards and visitors, and destroy the sacred documents of a nation...all while somehow, feeling not just okay about doing this, but brimming with maximum confidence. If he falters even a little, he's eating a PC Superman scaled fist to the face. and dying.
True, but it's a particular sticking point here when one character's powers and abilities are literally based on their conduct and confidence.
Brian is fighting John Bull's BFF. There is -no way- he's going into the fight at max confidence. He's not a supervillain. If the thought of storming Washington even passes his mind, he's not at max confidence, and he NEEDS to be at max confidence to not get shit stomped.
>at the end
When Sam has formed community to power him. Outside help, and all that. On his own, the Heartland is Sam's womb and prison
And Brian is not going to falter. Not with his nation at stake
If his nation's survival is predicated upon destroying its closest allies, does his nation truly exist anymore? What is a nation in this context? Is it an ideology? A people? A geographical constraint?
Israel
Blind Guardian's "Precious Jerusalem" comes to mind.
Brian is so insecure he had a b***hfit over Kurt making time with Meggan. Sam throws a dead red coat in his face and his spirit is crushed.
He will falter. He will break. He broke against the Phoenix. He broke against Mad Jim Jaspers. He broke against the Fury.
The Wrath of God broke against Uncle Sam. And Brian is no God.
kurt? wagner?
Yes.
Brian thought Kurt cucked him.
Sam gets pushed around by Hitler LARPers and Native Americans. Brian has never faced such a WEAK foe. He will reign supreme with little difficulty
Exhibit A:
AIEEEE SPACE BIRD I KNEEL.
MERLYN. ROMA. SOMEONE. HELP MEEEEEEEE
It would appear he didn't kneel
Are you getting desperate?
WTF? Mar Vell?!
Exhibit B
ANY FRICKING QUESTIONS?
Sam shatters Brian's confidence, kills him with Excalibur, and then goes over there to see Meggan, and he won't come back until he's over over there.
You're right, he had be carried away because the Space Chicken slapped his shit.
Swank Swank, ever the NYCrat, had to quibble his way out of Brian getting shitstomped in the ideasphere by saying he can just teleport out, like a b***h, like a b***h whose confidence is SHATTERED.
Max power vs Max power there is no comparison, Uncle Sam pours out Brian's tea.
Exhibit B is a dream sequence, and that homie's called 'the Patriot' and is explicitly Sam subsumed, not Sam himself
DC Comics Presents #62 Sam gets kicked around by a Hitler wannabe, needs Superman to save him
>Dream sequence
In a higher realm of reality, where the true Uncle Sam lives.
See Darkseid vs Thanos.
You're calling that garbled mess with that flag the 'true Uncle Sam'?
homie you whack as frick
See also Freedom Fighters #11, where Sam gets assBEAT by some unemployed injuns
>Captain Britain gets his ass beat by a dream
HOLY SHIT
Sam probably wins because they run everyone at max power vs max power these days, damned be the reason, so Brian will be at full confidence just because and he'll be fighting Brother Jonathan just because, and Brother Jonathan will win because beating a cosmic being is more impressive than pushing back one for a second and then nearly dying to one.
I see it going
>Uncle Sam
--Stronger
--More durable
--Reality warping
--Doesn't tire
--Can teleport
>Captain Britian
--Shield quickly depletes
--Excalibur might be able to hurt Sam, but he can't get close enough to finish the job before Sam overwhelms him
--If there's any characterization here, his confidence will be shaken just by engaging in combat with Uncle Sam
They will both, of course, be equally fast, because of course they will be. They'll probably cite Mad Jim Jaspers to show that Brian is bad when he has to fight an environment as well as a person.
I actually think Swank would have Brian win if they actually make an episode out of it, because NYCrats hate America as a general rule.
Why would Brian's nation be at stake?
I think we are defining nation as "the pride of the country the respective character is associated with, which can only be maintained if the respective character wins the death battle." Like any good war against an abstract term, their goals and terms of victory are vague enough to justify any action.
Don't forget a bunch of them got killed off just to inflate the Freedom Fighters
You know DC still can't reprint most Quality stories because the license was sold in the 50's
perhaps not philosophically but if you're having a match then a loss is a loss
Death Battle's going to come out and start scaling kinks to God only knows what.
In all fairness, I make grimaces like that when I move around pillows. It makes me feel tough.
Eventually Death Battle is just going to be about sex, and we're not going to remember how we survived in those dark days before the transition.
yeah but i don't think superman was fantasizing you know?
>Eventually Death Battle is just going to be about sex
you already get pseudo shipping with all this "a is for b they have sooo much in common!!" rhetoric. not to mention the age old battleboarding meme "ends in sex". wiz is confirmed to be a pederast at least and i'm pretty sure boomstick has a few kinks himself. if they ever use dark schneider, that's when the idea that battleboarding and shipping are different things comes crashing down.
Honestly, I feel dirty enough just discussing hypotheticals. I'm perfectly fine with distinguishing sex stuff from other stuff I enjoy and see no reason to make anything more perverse.
It's sort of like Han Solo being faster than the Millennium Falcon. It's one of those things that should make the evaluator change their metrics, rather than double down and make everybody double Goku.
Stitch's speed feat being that he rode in a rocket ship has to be the most bizarre speed feat I've ever seen tacked on to a character. I dont know if I can think of anything that made me think "...What?" more.
Try Dr Fate being as fast as Captain Marvel threw his helmet
>Current wounded self
You fricking moron.
At the time the story takes place, he's several galaxies away from Earth. The alien is looking into his memories at things that happened in the distant past.
The explosion didn't knock him out, you gibbering moron. Read comics, not Reddit threads.
almost missed this post i guess that was your intent you mongoloid. reread MY post without the neurotic need to be argumentative for literally no reason. if i meant the explosion knocked him out that wouldn't be an "implication". but it's very clear what the writer was going for with the panel of superman being at death's door right after the explosion and how it's a noble sacrifice instead of just another hokey chad meme with superman blinking it away or summ. you are capeshit illiterate and filtered if you don't understand this very basic child level storytelling. supergay fragility is getting out of hand
So, listroon is just working through his unresolved attraction to Superman, right? No one sane keeps this many pictures of something he actually hates.
What is it with troons and needing to display their wounds?
Soon they will know the power of Obito Uchiha
HE WAS THE COOLEST GUY
>Vegeta is a wuss that struggles with 2k tons
how did CHADow even lost to him?
>Full power Captain Britain
Pushed the Phoenix, not the WHR Phoenix by the way, but correct me if I'm wrong, a few feet back, then fell over and had to be pulled back before he died.
>Full Power Uncle Sam
Tore off the Specter's arm and nearly beat hi to death with it.
How the frick is this even a fight? Is Swan moronic?
Spectre is a jobber. Who hasn't beat him?
And the Phoenix isn't?
AIEEEE NOT THE CRYSTAL AGAIN NOOOOO!!!!
They both are. Cosmics are perpetual jobbers. Capeshit is weak when they're heels. Superman destroys Omegaman the Conqueror then gets his shit kicked in by a a newly created street tier black teen superhero
Wonder Woman > Thor > Phoenix Force
Black Butler is coming back. Should Alucard return and fight the dude he should have fought in the first place?
it is? do we know when? or if they're sticking to the manga this time or continuing the demon ciel story?
Pretty much every anime news place says it's returning in 2024.
As for the content, no one knows yet.
>.
They'll never do it.
But, Sebastian should be able to win as he can't die as he's a demon and will know to stab alucard in the heart. Maybe alucard can consume him? Hard to tell.
Alucard has blessed bullets
I think even with that, Sebastian can't die in his universe. I'll check rn.
Like iirc, it's noted that holy weapons would have no effect on alucard unlike the local vampires or werewolves. Something like that female grim reaper's sword might be able to affect him as they tear away the soul of the victim. Like, Sebastian had to actively dodge the thing until the fight ended in a stalemate.
*Sebastian. Whoops.
So after doing a bit of checking, Sebastian would need his soul to be destroyed in order to properly die. Like, he can be shot by bullets but he just regenerates even if it is a barrage of them. He works as a demon contracted by ciel to be active as long as it takes for ciel to find his parents' murderers so if alucard can somehow reach him then it may pose another means to victory.
>Like, he can be shot by bullets but he just regenerates even if it is a barrage of them
Just have Baskerville eat him and shit him out. It’s not like he can come back from nothing.
Luke valentine was alive in the dog. Does it take the victim to an alternate dimension or what?
No Alucard had just made Luke a familiar
That was when he was fighting against Walter solo. It was actually like, and alucard even said his talents were wasted inside that dog. It's just that Walter immediately killed like valentine right afterwards. Alucard just used a illusion of Luke to confuse Walter.
Though that raises the question of if alucard's esoteric powers can work on Sebastian, and given how Sebastian is supposed to be a demon from apparently the stronger ones I'd be inclined to say no.
He does have no feats of escaping dimensions though. I mean, given his contract with ciel, he can possibly bfr himself to wherever he is to bring himself back into the real world. But, he'd be in Britain again.
As for stamina, Sebastian has no issue with it.
Alucard was just pulling a ruse cruise on Walter there.
i think he could eat sebastian the way he did rip van winkle, alhambra and eventually luke valentine. you basically become his familiar, summoned forth from his dark mass of a body when he needs you. i don't know if that counts as a win necessarily and we know some beings are harder to digest than others but in luke valentine's case he remarked baskerville hadn't digested him fully and then he proceeded to do just that and valentine was no more- note his cheeky smirk as walter split him in half. it's even worse because we know sebastian can bleed, it's rare but it happens. the mechanics of these verses don't overlap very much but alucard should be a match for sebastian in strength and speed, but not even in the same existential plane in skill, dexterity and experience
Well, Sebastian does bleed. In fact, he shares the same thing as alucard where they just tank shit. But that's because he has the same level of regeneration as alucard if not even more potent. He can only be killed via the soul. Now about becoming a familiar, I think the like was just a illusion as alucard was forced to take down his hound after Walter piloted it. But assuming such a thing could work, it'd depend on if Sebastian can somehow find a way out of it. I mean, Luke took a decent while to "digest" if we were to believe that I think he actually makes familiars out of biting the victim) so Sebastian should have a much longer timeframe to get out of there.
In a death battle, both would be bloodlusted so no bfr or permanent mind control allowed. They would have to fight it out until one gives up.
alucard can exist just fine with his mangled body. even in level 0 he survived as basically just the lower half of his face, his neck and his arm and he was still lucid enough to use his pistol. same as without a head altogether when he fought anderson. sebastian on top of coming from an overall weaker verse was never completely mutilated like alucard was at least to my knowledge.
>alucard was forced to take down his hound after Walter piloted it
because walter was using it and luke like marionettes.
>Luke took a decent while to "digest"
yes, because alucard ate him and forgot about him. when alucard put his head to it he digested luke valentine during the walter fight. like i said he was a full on familiar by the time walter ran him through when earlier he was just his old self. although speaking of alucard's familiars that gives him an overbearing edge in range and versatility. rip van winkle had hypersonic homing pellets that could destroy fighter jets and alhambra's cards could split seras's artillery shells.
i don't see why sebastian would be particularly resistant to getting digested after enough of a scrap. and he doesn't get the big maybe of whether or not alucard would be happy dying to him since he's a demon.
>They would have to fight it out until one gives up.
sebastian is strong and fast but he's no wolfman captain. i say alucard eats sebastian sooner or later and probably sooner at that since he won't be lenient
Brian at his normal level of confidence isn't in push-the-Phoenix mode. Does Swank really expect me to believe he'll start at max confidence knowing he has to kill the most sacred, golden hearted, representation of the people that saved his country's ass during the blitz? Bullshit. Brian is going to go into the fight psychologically fricked and it'll only get worse from there.
This really is the big problem with Death Battle's model right here. Compositing fighters and assuming that bloodlusting works the same for every fighter is a flawed model. At that point, you might as well throw fanfiction versions of characters at one another.
don't they usually put the characters at max which is why killing the fricker before they transform has never been used as a reasoning for winning
But how do you get Brian to max when he's fighting Uncle Sam? It's like if you asked him to murder Winston Churchill.
>Brian cannot defeat the power of Uncle sam
For he is a pretender to the throne, a shamefull display of England's true prowess
So, can Brian get into Avalon?
since Otto currently is against Captain Britain at the moment he'd probably agree with you Listtroon
Unlikely, the tripgay hates modern anime girls more than whatever his current target in comics is. He's probably say Brian wipes Saber.
Did you not listen to the podcast? Brian and Black Knight would destroy Saber's entire setting. Fricking Meggan could probably stomp Saber's setting.
No, I didn't listen to the podcast. I'd rather not ever know what Swan sounds like, or anyone else involved in the show.
RUN
Given how high they wanked Excalibur, Black Knight really would no diff all of Fate at this point off his sword being comparable to Excalibur.
They wouldn't even need to scale the Ebony Blade to Excalibur's wank since unlike Excalibur, the Ebony Blade actually has the feats to back it up.
And I'm a fricking idiot who forgot to include the image
I just want pic related so badly just so I can see the tears flowing from the fate defenders eyeballs.
Goetia is a beast class servant who is unable to be harmed by anybody other than Grand level servants, the hell the guy on the right is gonna do?
>Eat your soul
>Eat your memories
>Kill you violently
>Abort you from time
Oh you poor soul
>Grand level servants
Damn shame there's videos of even Mash kicking his ass proving you wrong.
the same way to get Rock Lee to max when he has literally done it at all in the series, the mystery way
God this thread went to shit the moment Goku Vs Superman was mentioned.
Reminder that obitogay is an autist from Otto’s discord, you can tell because he thinks that getting validation from TikTok for multiversal infinite speed naruto is actual validation.
Also he believes in the Kratos wank whole heartedly in spite of never having played any of the GOW games.
Could Vader shatterpoint Obito's entire right half?
Congrats, you just found out the kill.
Nope, Obito can either phase, or absorb that shit.
The Force is ENERGY. Obito can see it, absorb it, Obito can even tell when Vader is about to use it.
How strong is America's sense of self and purpose right now?
It depends on whether Trump wins or not. Brian isn't beating a Trump Uncle Sam, but he'd crush a Brandon Sam.
Drumpf is going to jail so pretty strong
Death Battle rules means Captain Britain fights Brother Jonathan on the ideaoverse or whatever. They also go for max power levels here.
The installed Chicom "president" just had his crackhead son do lines in the oval office. Current Sam is on a respirator.
Trump lost
No, America lost. The national image is now troony breasts shaking in front of the white house while Brandon's cokehead spawn does lines in the oval office and funnels money through a losing proxy war. We're in a William Gibson novel.
>America lost
Captain Britain wins again
I'd accept Brian winning with the Brandon regime as justification.
Naw, his open door policy to China was the wrong choice.
Jealous that mister orange man would never achieve pic related?
damn
>miss me yet?
if darkseid was based on nixon does that mean uncle sam can use the omega sanction?
>billionaires is America
Sam deserved to die if this is what he relies on for power.
Trannies are the big one
Worse or better than Monica Lewinsky?
Clinton at least was young. Biden could die at any moment
See
They hyped up truthseeker orbs in madaras fight, does vader counter that?
I still think vader will win.
They couldn't kill sakura, so yes vader does counter that
It only got hyped up cause without them, Madara had no real way to kill Aizen due to this regeneration (according to the episode). I don't see it being a factor in this fight, since it's not like he's immortal or boasts stupidly powerful regen or anything like that.
New version
better version so bern is a tad more subtle
>me waking up
>reading the rest of the thread
KWAB!! What is wrong with listtroon?
Shut the frick up, i do what i want
If only we had those old posters from the lounge here then we would have a real blast.
To be honest: they're probably around here. They're certainly not going to be anywhere else.
Those threads were a gold mine lol. I think I'll post them tomorrow.
You know all those fricking VSBW nerds who say that every character is "outer" or "hyperversal beyond fiction"? Well I created my own tier. I call it: Jirenversal. Basically, a character is Jirenversal if Jiren had to use 0.00000000000001% of his power to instantly one shot said character. For reference, that's about 100 quintillion times more powerful than Darkseid going all out. How do i submit my tier to vsbattle wiki?
Too late for that buddy. The term in question that you're currently describing was called "brolypotence"
>List of characters that can kill the Phoenix according to Avengers 51
>Molecule Man
Well, duh.
>Thanos
LMFAO killed by Darkseid.
>Galactus
Yeah that makes sense since a starving Galactus stalemated Rachel Phoenix.
>Living Tribunal
Tracks.
>Beyonders
Tracks, though the White Hot Room version is above them, a universe level Phoenix should be beneath them.
>Scarlet Witch
Tracks, since Wanda rebooted reality including the Phoenix. LMFAO since she lost to Zatanna.
>Odin
Tracks.
>Thor
LMFAO lost to Wonder Woman. Also no, frick no, how is...oh, Jason Aaron wrote the book, now I get it.
>Maya Lopez
Well, that's more because she's the current host of the Phoenix Force, so yeah, like should beat like.
LMFAO that 1/3rd of the guys listed as Phoenix killers by Jason Aarron got dialed. Swanky Swank trying to get Brian over Sam by Phoenix scaling is such cope, the damned redcoat.
>LMFAO lost to Wonder Woman
Shart battle fanfiction, Thor back shots the entire Amazonian island
He really doesn’t have the feats for it
Question, if you're doing a character swap challenge (A does Y while B does X) what do you do if one character has a narrative nerf placed on them specific to that event?
Well would each event have one single timeline? Because you would get divergence that might get rid of the nerf or even make a whole new one either way. I.e a character who used diplomacy in one issue being replaced by one who uses brute force would end up changing things all together
Alright, so we got someone mad that Thor lost, someone mad that Rocket lost, and there used to be someone that wouldn't shut up about Wanda losing. Why are Marvel fans such sore losers? Harley lost, and I haven't seen any DC fan give a shit.
Please, if superman lost DCucks would go ballistic, and before you say it I'm not listroon frick that guy
But he didn't lose. You're arguing a what-if. I'm arguing what I see.
Rocket lost because he was robbed. They gave Stitch a shit speed advantage he shouldn't have.
Stitch runs pretty fast man. And to be honest Rocket’s barely faster than most humans
>They gave Stitch a shit speed advantage he shouldn't have
Ah, of course. Because Rocket having picosecond and Thanos level guns (both of which are wrong) was completely fair right? Even without the moronic speed calcs, Stitch was still way faster than Rocket, way stronger than him, and way more durable than anything the raccoon could throw at him.
>B-but look at this gif of Stitch getting hit by a branch!
And now look at this gif of Stitch surviving a black hole imploding.
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>B-but look at this gif of Stitch getting captured!
Now look at this video of Stitch running around every part of an island in seconds.
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Are you that Oswald guy from the G1 blog who spent like, a whole two days arguing that Rocket should've won? If so, you should take a break dude, you seem emotionally devastated.
Aw shit, do we now have a name to associate with this autism? Fricker unironically seems to believe Stitch doesn't exist outside of his low ends.
>Honestly this battle is dissapointing on the same level as iron fist vs po. Iron fist has a gazillion heralds fears. Ehhh can't scale cause something something outliers. Po has zero country level feats and gets constantly beaten up by street tiers consistently. Eh is actually country level cause some scaling. Same thing with stitch being put at galaxy level and millions of times the speed light based one feat that's contradictory based on being harmed by far less and tagged by slower things. But hey i wouldn't mind if they treated rocket and marvel street tiers in the American way if they acknowledge they have a quanitllion more feats of dodging heralds. It's not a one time thing when the story itself states that "thor and hulk are stronger but spidermans superior speed and ability allows him to keep up". But for some reason there is this mental brainrot or mental block inside peoples heads and a vs debating rule that people break with marvel steet tiers all the times. No matter how many feats of keeping up speed wise they have people will always be like " NOoooo Outlier OutlieR ApIdzermAn Can't Be plAnk Time" but apparently po can be planet level with no feats I guess
It’s hysterical he can’t even spell
Oh Jesus, what is this schizophrenia? Is he a teenager? This is the level of reasoning I'd expect from someone failing high school English.
DC gays throw shit fits even when they win
I'm also mad Thor lost. They refuse to give him RKT (and ignored a shit ton of feats that show even base Thor breaks her) and gave him a speed far faster than Diana literally a few seasons later. They clearly were just shilling for the movie coming out.
So obito lost to kakashi but can beat Vader?
Congrats on figuring out that Naruto has been robbed blindly on DB.
They're going to scale Vader to a black hole feat he didn't do, while ignoring the b***h Naruto fought made dimensions with stars in them.
>Obito throws fight to get what he wants
>"LMAO JOBITO"
c'mon anon, did you not even see the next scene
That’s not obitos strongest form and he let kakashi stab him to get rid of the curse mark madara put on his heart
>JOBmega effect
Tanked.
>SHIT vision
Tanked.
>Infinite ASS punch
Tanked
>JOBlar flare
Tanked.