Next fight is Phoenix (Marvel) vs Raven (DC) on July 31st. Sources to be used:
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https://ulltraguy.blogspot.com/2023/07/suggested-media-raven.html
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Superman vs SAINT SEIYAAAA
SEIYAA wins
Superman will turn Seiya from a Mexican into a Mexican't.
Why are you like this Otto
He want to hide his Hispanic roots
Alright that makes… A terrifying amount of sense
Seiya makes Superman look like a pussy
>Vader Will Make Obito Obitold
>Looks like Darth Vader, got Obitold
Bravo, death battle
I'm pretty sure that Superman would win that matchup in 2.2 seconds. And the reasoning is because he's Superman, and Superman has no limits!!
Not if I have anything to sa-ACK!
He scales to Chuck Norris. Superman would be nothing to him
cuck norris
Chuck and Segata will reappear during Superman vs Popeye only to get casually destroyed by their clash
Frick you, listgay. Find another series
Who’s Futanari wiener is bigger, Jeans or Ravens?
So if DB eventually does this episode, will it they use adult Naruto?
Nah, they would just have Luffy kill Naruto
Why the frick would Naruto ever go to Baryon mode against Luffy?
It’s his best chance of tagging Luffy
Based on what? Naruto can dodge lasers too.
Pacifistas >>> Madara speed
Gear 4 alone does it
>Pacifistas >>> Madara speed
>Best chance at tagging puffy
Luffy can’t even run 120 km per hour canonically.
Most One Piss fans try to burry Wano as much as possible.
Naruto needs to close the speed gap
He shrugged that off like 5 seconds later
Good luck mantaining this against an universal level character.
Baryon Mode lasts even less so. Plus he can turn Rasengans into basketballs
Luffy can't push Naruto to use baryon mode you dumb hoe.
But it still shows that Luffy can be knocked out it by sufficient force.
No he wasn’t knocked out of it. He just got tired then made his heart beat loud
Even Naruto can’t defeat Toon Force
Probably him vs Grandmaster Luke
My sides would explode if they do this and Plastic Man vs Luffy for the fact that would mean Cinemaphile gays will be cucked out of Naruto vs Luffy
What's the general conscious on the Akatsuki vs the Espada in a goon squad fight?
Espada steam roll with the fact that the atatsuki have actually no way to damage souls
Grimmjow would solo the lower tiers before Pain and above?
We don't need grimjow
Zomari would just Mc everybody unless they had a force field lol
Do the Akatsuki just lose all of their MU's? I can't really think of one they can defeat.
>Organization 13 rofl stomp them regardless of if it's the fake, true, or Roxas included one
>Espada's are untouchable for the most part
>CP0 can already hold their own against Puma and the ice hobo, meaning they should be stronger than most of the Akats
Don't forget they lose to Scions of the Seventh Dawn
I mean the fact Lucci clashed with G5 Luffy and didn't instantly explode already puts him in a tier above Akatsuki as a team.
>Inb4 someone wanks Deidara's C0 to Continent+ Level
The phantom troupe.
So, Mortal Kombat DLC got shown in a trailer and...
What the frick is that Omni-Man model. How hard is it to make a 3D version of JJJ with muscles?
Wait wtf why though? The game isn't even put yet and they're showing off dlc packs?
The game comes out in two months, but I expected them to show off the DLC characters much closer to release.
They’ll do a day one season pass
Who are the three who's?
If you mean the non-capeshit characters, those are actual MK characters.
>Quan-Chi
>Ermac
>Takeda
https://twitter.com/DEATHBATTLE/status/1682529751175516160
Even if it was just 2003 Beast Boy I’m pretty sure he wins
Yeah, Nimona's not very strong, She should probably fight Kipo instead.
Beast Boy turned into a germ and made people sick in the silver age Doom Patrol. The troony dragon girl has no counter to it.
Isn't she able to turn into an eldritch monster?
Someone didn’t see the Sword in the Stone
I didn't say dragon, I said monster. Like, something that I'm not even sure has a biological system
Is it alive? It can get sick.
I'm not even sure if this thing has cells. It's like it's made out of nothing but smoke
https://nimona.fandom.com/wiki/Gloreth%27s_Beast
Apparently it's a giant lizard?
That's no lizard I've ever seen
That art style is fricking donkey shit, good lord I feel bad to the team researching this
Netflix or comic?
Noelle Stevenson got pretty far with an artstyle as shit as hers. The animated adaptation is a bit easier on the eyes, but not by much.
On the other hand, if this is all she got and her comic doesn't have anything, she's doomed even against 2003 Beast Boy nevermind the comics one.
A phoenix made of pure energy can't get sick.
Even 2003 Beast Boy did it
Otto. I don't trust anything you say because you have immense favoritism for western media. And I say this as someone who doesn't care about weebshit
There was a thumbnail made just for this a few thread back
New Yates track. (The Borg [Star Trek] vs New Phyrexia [Magic: The Gathering])
The Borg are for Daleks from Dr. Who or the Cylon from Battlestar Galactica
The Daleks are just overkill. Wouldn’t it be one of the Cybermen
Gazelleman was never said to be faster. Luffy just likes riding things. 13x FTL
>13x FTL
Lmao how can anyone believe this?
Do you think Luffy’s going to make Kizaru look like a statue when he gets to egghead?
The sheer fact Kizaru is a top tier (arguably in the top 10 in the verse), and explicitly needs to use a special technique to reach light speed should tell you all you need to know about how they’re not FTL.
Faster than light light Futurama style
No. The Borg are for Cybermen
Oh this one is good.
Borg lose unless they're allowed to have their comic book version, the one that took over the universe.
Daleks stomp. They did just that in the comic crossover.
Cyclons get stomped.
You behave like walking WW2 propaganda.
what can the daleks do?
Phyrexians are for Tyranids. Otherwise pretty based.
Point is he doesn't need to rely on iron
He doesn’t but Kid’s not gonna let Gajeel figure out not to use iron. He’s gonna choke him on the first Iron Dragon’s Breath. Guy’s crazy
Nope, he isn't getting harmed by his own attack
It’s called choking. Same way how you can choke on your own spit
Your entire argument is headcanon
>Nobody discussing Raven vs Jean
So we all agree that Jean stomps and they're feeding Marvel to keep people from calling them out on DC fanboyism?
I would but I only know her from TT. I don't know shit about comic books.
To me she wins.
Unless they're pulling some massive asspulls or she got some major buffs in the last decade, I'm not seeing her pulling anything off.
Especially if they decide to go full wank and give Jean White Phoenix. No idea why they went with this over the far more iconic and requested Pheonix vs Parallax, aside from the aforementioned speculation regarding feeding Marvel a free win.
What about that Unkindness stuff?
>It won't be used as it's from the future
Just wait until the match comes out. Nobody wants to argue if unkindness raven is actually stronger than phoenix. Given how it's agreed the DC cosmology is greater than marvel at least in death battle, she should be but who knows if it even matters.
If raven wins expect a lot of seethe even though it was warned about since a few days after the match up was announced. If not then nothing was lost except a feed match like misaka vs killua.
>killua vs misaka
Death Battle new season's 1st Vanilla Midget matchup
>far more iconic and requested Pheonix vs Parallax
Phoenix vs Parallax is an old school capeshit debate that has been raging for decades, zoom zoom. It's up there with Galactus vs Unicron and Thanos vs Darkseid.
Nowhere close even in the same orbit as Jean vs Raven you projecting gen z pile of shit
Retconned away? Not really, it was just retconned period. Like Parallax to absolve both characters of accountability because writers are manchildren
Nobody has ever asked for Jean vs Raven aside from your homosexualy circlejerk vs battle wiki community.
X-Men vs Teen Titans? Yeah, sure, but Jean vs Raven isn't as iconic a matchup.
I didn't ask for anything. This matchup is shit but it's not less popular and classic than Phoenix vs Parallax. The problem is they marketed it as Raven vs Phoenix
Not even close. They'd get instantly drained by Quasar and summarily overpowered by the rest
Quasar’s got nothing on a REAL Green Lantern
That's not true, I am the one person in the universe who wanted this and batgirl vs spider-gwen
Why are you alive?
Too stupid to die probably
Wasn’t Dark Phoenix retconned away anyways?
Don't feel like looking it up but I'm pretty sure Dark Phoenix was essentially a shell the Phoenix Force made to experience mortal life, while keeping Jean safe under the lake the X-Men crash landed in when she first came in contact with it.
Either way it's not even Jean's strongest Phoenix form, White Phoenix trumps it.
Parallax vs Phoenix is cape classic kino, zoom zoom. You can actually have a debate about it.
Raven is so hosed people have to pretend her alternate future self is getting in just to keep her competitive. Unkindness coming in 2/3rds of the way through the fight would be like Batkek suddenly tagging out Batman in the middle of one of his fights or the Thought Robot suddenly appearing to help Superman.
Oh its something big like that. He's collecting dead DC tokens to cash in.
For all we know he's saving up to buy Superman vs Goku III.
Dare he go further and feed Lum to Starfire?
I wish they had the balls to joke with the audience like that.
Fight starts and suddenly X-men Evolution Jean is fighting TTG Raven.
What would Paralax vs Dark Phoenix even look like?
Before the retcons? Parallax is an event villain, while Thor could in theory handle the original Phoenix all by himself. Then again, Phoenix was equated to Darkseid in a TT/X-Men crossover
Phoenix tends to fluctuate in power depending on plot needs (but what cosmic capeshit force doesn't?), but even it its debut it was implied to be capable of solo'ing the Avengers of the era.
Capeshit is also the only medium where you regularly get wacky what if alternate reality incarnations and one off bullshit power-ups. Imagine how stupid it'd be if you had to consider Captain Universe any time you discussed Spider-Man.
Let's be honest capeshit is about as consistent as a non-newtonian fluid
Your digits are compelling. I know Parallax had a Crisis all to himself and I don't know if Phoenix had similar accolades before the cosmic retcons. The scope of Parallax as a villain seems like it was broader back then
Phoenix didn't really have a true "crisis" tier event until Avengers vs X-Men, which was pretty bad. The Dark Phoenix saga, despite dealing with high stakes, was about as unreasonably self contained as most X-Men stories (like when there was a fricking genocide happening underneath New York and the only non-mutant to do anything about it was god damned Thor, who basically just showed up for like 5 minutes, spun some frickers around with a sewer storm he whipped up, and then fricked off because "whoops I've been cursed and I can't fight oh well enjoy your genocide guys".)
Probably for the best though, considering the whole thing was more character driven and shoving in a bunch of outside characters would have probably hurt the pacing of the story.
Phoenix may not have had a Crisis type of event all to itself but it involved events which threatened the multiverse nonetheless, such as with the M'Kraan Crystal and generally being seen as a destroyer of worlds by the characters with a mind to speak
The pheonix has some solid multiversal feat
>dancing with myself at the worlds disco
Feats?
Hal is doing Zero Hour.
Dark Phoenix pops in. "You can't do that! This is my world! These are my toys!"
Hal goes "My world will be better, and it won't need a space chicken."
FIGHT
Comics characters do seem to be the only ones that don't get full composite madness. No Apex Lex, no God Emperor Doom, or Rune King Thor.
It's obvious DB is gonna feed Raven to Jean. If Raven goes over somehow, it's gonna be the upset of the year.
from a booking standpoint there's no way jean is going to lose. they might say "if it was jean vs raven then raven would win but the phoenix is too much"
Pretty much. Raven is getting sacrificed.
MY CHILDHOOD WAIFU!!!!
WHY DIDN'T THEY DO THIS TO ZATANNA! I DON'T CARE ABOUT HER!
It's Death Battle so there's still a chance they'll asspull something.
She probably shouldn't have access to Unkindness given the circumstances behind it, but it's her best chance at competing so she'll probably get it anyway. And once you get into "omni-potent vs omni-potent" it kind of just comes down to who you want to wank off harder.
Alt shit girls were just sjws of those days. Real men knew Starfire was and always was best girl. And unlike Raven, she actually got Dick lol
Raven was packing more meat under her dress.
>generic "I'm soo deep and edgy" chick in every hot topic
>loving, cute princess showing genuine romance for her one true Dick Grayson
Starchads gonna kek at your goth gf getting fed to mousekeks
I love Starfire too and that ship was one of my favorites growing up.
BUT you just know, they didn't ship Raven with BB because then who would hit the showers with Cyborg?
Yes. This is like if they fed Nova to Hal Jordan. It's a complete curbstomp, probably because someone on staff cried over the Slaughterhouse meme, so we have to endure feeds until they allow Swank to go mask off and, I don't know, have Constantine kill Raidou or something like that.
Raven winning would upend all the logic they've used to compare Marvel vs DC. You might as well not try
I like you, anon.
Blow up universes.
>probably because someone on staff cried over the Slaughterhouse meme
Or because Wanda vs Zatanna was a wank fest nobody really wanted
It kinda was a wankfest, but I still wanted it
It’s one of my favorite shapeshifter battles. Which really need to be done more.
>Constantine kill Raidou
This is what Swan is waiting for. Or for Kyle to dumpster Simon. I can feel it.
Nope, jeangays are just avoiding debate because she has no feats that even match her own hype, let alone the Unkindness' feats
Could the Earth Lanterns beat the Annihilators?
Nova and Ronan aren't factors. Wendell, Norrin, Bill and Kallark working together most likely steamroll the GL's
Guy and John could take them. And that’s not even getting into Kyle.
Hal solos no diff
He can win... You just have to scale him harder but he can win.
What if this jean vs raven is a trick matchup and it's teen titans cartoon raven vs 90s x men jean
Would be funny, Raven probably wins I guess if you mean the Cartoon Jean specifically.
All I remember from that X-Men cartoon was Xavier having headaches and begging her to come back.
>We got this shit instead of OG X-Men vs Teen Titans (03' roster with comics feats to keep the numbers even)
Why is DB so allergic to doing actually interesting fights, why does it refuse to evolve past 1v1s and the occasional free-for-all shit show?
I grew up watching the 03 Teen Titans and I never really had a crush on any of the girls tbqh. Starfire is too goofy, Terra is too flat, and I don't like Raven because I'm racist against grey people.
To me it was the fact the girls were so much more powerful than the boys it fed my femdom fetish a bit.
Power scaling in the 03' cartoon was kind of weird. Like it felt like Starfire should be physically the strongest in the group, but sometimes it seemed like Cyborg was. Raven should be the strongest overall in the team but she also jobbed constantly. Robin should be the weakest, but then we see him beating the rest of the team 4 on 1.
Raven was obviously the strongest. She was so strong she made her friends fight replicas of themselves inside of her mind in an episode. After her it was Starfire because of her strength and speed. Then Cyborg. Then Robin. And BB was just trash. Most of the time he's better off just turning into a fly and fricking off
Raven jobbing to Terra was weird
It made no sense. They obviously did their best to not portray Raven too powerful compared to the rest of the cast.
And then you have episodes where she's able to fight her father. And you're supposed to believe Slade should be a problem to her.
03 not really giving a shit about power levels was probably for the best. It's the only show where Robin is actually cool instead of being a shitty guy in the chair for stronger characters.
I give them credit for making Slade feel so threatening when his foes included characters like Starfire, Beast Boy, Raven and Cyborg. He legitimately felt like a threat to the whole team
99 percent of the time all toon Raven did was pick up and throw things and go AZARATH METRENOME ZINTHOS. That's it.
You know, she's kind of like Jean in that adaptations reduce her to being a telekinetic forklift.
>BB was just trash
No you're trash homosexual. 03 did BB so damn dirty.
It was Terra enhanced by whatever Slade did to her vs Raven who was holding back, it's not that bad.
I can't believe it, there's actually someone else who can't fap to teen titans
Godzilla beat Superman in the crossover.
And honestly I'm not even surprised, there's a literal "He needs to win in a crossover" mandate
Can Doom beat Obito given both of them beat Vader?
Fairly easily.
Depends on how much Doomgay wank you give him.
Obito quite literally BARELY beat Vader. He only squeezed out the W because of the IT. Doom, on the other hand, stomped Vader. That should answer your question.
Doom would destroy Obito. It wouldn't even be close.
Probably. A Doombot might solo both of them simultaneously
doctor mid
You know, I’ve been thinking about an incident on the old screwattack forums lately. If you’re a massive oldgay autist like me you’ll remember those.
After the The Meta vs Carolina got announced there was a ton of pushback on the forums about a same series parent company fight. Ben came online and said “you aren’t the fans we want”. I actually got in trouble for responding to him in an inflammatory way.
Now with the paypig hugbox discord I figured out what he meant by the fans he wanted. He wanted the sycophants that wouldn’t question him at the cost of declining view counts.
>Now with the paypig hugbox discord I figured out what he meant by the fans he wanted. He wanted the sycophants that wouldn’t question him at the cost of declining view counts.
Yeah, probably. They were really particular about not seeming rude, to the point it was detrimental to discussion. This is a passionate hobby. Sometimes, you have to tell someone they're being moronic. You won't get through to them otherwise.
>Ben came online and said “you aren’t the fans we want”.
>Now with the paypig hugbox discord I figured out what he meant by the fans he wanted. He wanted the sycophants that wouldn’t question him at the cost of declining view counts.
It's been over for far longer than I thought.
Please tell me someone saved evidence of this. Ryona Ben getting upset because his pay piggies aren't satisfying his findom fetish is hilarious.
Carolina won that fight though, and she's masked, and covered in body armour. That's not a fight a ryona enthusiast would defend, it'd make more sense if people were getting mad at like, Mob vs Tatsu.
I got nothing. And the forums were free. No one was paying anything.
Oh I remember that. I also remember sabergay and neosonic as well.
Remember iron Joe “quitting” dramatically after Yang vs tifa and he was back within a week?
Who has stronger plot armor, Doom or the Joker?
The Joker. The fact that nobody has ever just put a bullet in his head when he's pretty much just a guy is insane.
It's funny how years of exposition to other characters fears made me not want this match because they're both jobbers.
Not a big DC guy but isn't Mephisto a better fit for Trigon?
In aesthetics and in being "the devil" yes. But Trigon's purpose is universal conquest
In general, Mephisto is more a seductive and tricky force. Trigon and Dormammu are invading conquerors. It's the difference between Henry Kissinger and Genghis Khan.
Exactly. Mephisto is more like Malebologia from Spawn.
Not really. Mephisto explicitly follows the rules of "the game" the other hellords play. He corrupts and schemes but he only goes mask off with his power when he's pushed into a corner.
Trigon is a multiverse conqueror, just like Dormy.
Makes me understand why they didn't do it yet because it's a complex match with both having servants to fight for him.
Could Cap. Kirk beat commander Shepard with both composited? Inspiration based DB idea if you must ask.
Which characters used in Death Battle so far would you say are the most similar to "vanillia midget" tier? (Super skilled and strong, yet not a name that draws dimes)
Predator, King Mickey, Black Canary, (maybe) Static, Gray and Esdeath, Booster Gold, She-Ra, Galaxia, Mitsuru, Ace and Natsu, Captain Marvel, and maybe Silver Samurai
>Predator, King Mickey, Galaxia
I question those three, Predator and Galaxia are associated with very popular series' so that helps them, and King Mickey isn't the main mouse most know but it's still Mickey Mouse.
I said them mainly cause they weren't the first choices for their matchups or are very overshadowed by their opponents in terms of relevancy/popularity. Predator's semi-good for Boba but its been a while since there was a (good) mainline Predator thing besides maybe Prey (though he's so entirely unique it feels hard to apply him to the standard Predator like from the 80s), meanwhile, Boba has a show and Mandolorian at the time. I don't think I've ever seen someone say King Mickey for Yoda, it was always mainly Meta Knight. Same with Galaxia, hell I haven't even heard her being used as a SM rep in vs battles, its often Moon herself or another Sailor
Predator's weird because it's what we call them and the name of the series and it's still somewhat popular I guess, Galaxia's weird because the last season of SM didn't originally come to the US, which is why Beryl is usually the most popular villain in the series, thing is Galaxia's is somewhat obscure in a still very popular series, and the whole big boy vs girl anime of the 90's really helped her.
Otto doesn't know what a Vanilla Midget is and wouldn't apply it to DB if he did dudes lol
a vanilla midget is a physically unimpressive and small guy without a personality, not "super skilled and strong"
Forgive my memory, but weren't Jericho and Edge considered vanilla midgets despite their skills and overness with the crowds?
I don't think Jericho was one, and Edge was probably too tall to be considered a midget but he was vanilla for a while. When Kev coined the term IIRC he was referring to (WCW) Dean Malenko and Perry Saturn types. He said that despite the fact that they were good "technical wrestlers" they couldn't draw a dime compared to main event talent like Hulk Hogan, who had a more limited and stiff style but was brimming with charisma, had superstar looks and a real character. Vanilla comes from the fact they had no personality or character beyond "good wrestler" and midget comes from the fact they were small. Benoit and Eddie in WWE stopped being vanilla and they made up for the midget part by juicing. Benoit was so jacked he almost looked like a really buff midget.
Vanilla midgets tended to specialize in high skill technical and chain wrestling, but it's technically not a requirement. You just have to be a vanilla midget.
>Benoit
>Child and wife level coward
Jobs to Brock Lesnar with universal and hollywood scaling via Rock, Hogan and Undertaker!
He tapped Lesnar! Eddie also went over Lesnar granted with a lot of help
>lesnar beat Hogan
>immortal and nWo for life
>and taker
>literal deadman
>plus Goldberg
>wcw undefeated streak with new magic hax
>went to ufc
>got legit fighting credibility
Lesnar shoots on Benoit till his brain feels better
If we're shooting then I think Harley Race could give Lesnar a run for his money. John Tenta and Haku would probably get him
>Drunk only known from rumors
>Vs NCAA champ and MMA ass kicker
C'mon dude. Brock kicks those asses. You're gonna need at least Bradshaw, Simmons, Ken Shamrock or Steve Blackman who were known legit badasses in the backrooms.
Haku is considered the toughest man by just about everybody in shoot interviews. Guys like Ric Flair and Road Warrior Animal provided anecdotes. It's more than just being tough though; Haku would shove his fingers into your eyes and other gruesome shit like that. Tenta was an undefeated sumo and amateur wrestler as well as much bigger than Lesnar. Brock F-5'd a shark, but John Tenta is not a shark, he's not a fish, he's a man!
Difference is that dude was probably snorting coke and shooting up roids as was common at the time. Brock did it all naturally and through legit h2h skill and Olympic style wrasslin. A good mix of old fashioned Greco-Roman inspired amateur paired with NYC style character/Comic inspired with enough charisma and skill to become one of the most known badasses to prove himself in legit competition. Yeah, unless Japan has a story that compares, Brock is Still a greatest Murican icon of a pro wrestler.
Ain't gonna work me, brother
Brock went over Hogan in the ruthless aggression era
Now he's for Jimmy Cornett alongside Vinny Roo and Kevin Gnashers Dunn
I said you ain't gonna work me, brother.
Pic unrelated
>child and wife level
You mean Kevin Sullivan?
No, Mephisto is for Neron (who jobs)
Did Neron lose to Wildstorm's Apollo?
This is the fight that should be happening, not Raven vs Phoenix. At least there's some argument to be had.
I prefer Dorm vs Jedah for variety. 6 gorillion Marvel vs DC fights is poison to a man.
Will Death Battle finally give us a season with no Marvel vs DC fights?
I really do want this fight.
>Evenly matched as hell
>Good connections
>Could be freaky as hell
Can you imagine what this fight would look like? Two massive horrifying monsters just going at it like vidrel
Wouldn’t acid blood take out the Beast
This thing can tank being set on fire and actual grenades
Acid is a different thing
>Ender for the fight leads into Isaac vs Gordon, with Isaac walking through and surveying the battle torn areas the beasts just finished tearing each other apart in
>As he's about to breach a room, he hears the deathly scream of whichever monster won, and walks in on Gordon bashing it to death with a crowbar
I just love this fight because it's so low-scaled.
No FTL shit, no tons of TNT, no esoteric hax. Just two fricking monsters going at it.
Bro they managed to shove FTL reaction shit into fricking James Bond vs John Wick.
Didn't bother watching the fight. How did Obito beat Darth Vader if Kakashi beats Obito, Obi-Wan beats Kakashi, and Vader beats Obi-Wan?
>inb4 b-but Obi-Wan is stronger than Vader he only lost in the original (only thing that matters) trilogy because uhhh he wanted to die as part of his plan!
IT gave Obito enough time to get a kill in with a truth seeking orb sword.
I don't agree with it, but their logic is that Vader couldn't counter IT. Kakashi doesn't have IT. Obi-Wan would've lost if Kakashi had IT
IT was only used in the animation and not the conclusion though.
The reason Obito won is better regen, kamui, similar stats given and Vader's fighting style putting him in danger of TSOs and kamui.
>dimension without the force
This part is just stupid. There's no sense in making some kind of distinction between the force and any other power trait. It's like, let's say in Fullmetal Alchemist the world just works in such a way that if you draw an alchemy sign then you can do alchemy. In Naruto the world works in a way where humans generate chakra. In Star Wars the world works in a way where people can call upon a force that permeates everything. You might as well say if you put Naruto in our world he would stop generating chakra because our humans don't do that. What's the difference? Is there any indication that Star Wars lore implies the force doesn't exist in all universes, just like the real-world physics we expect to exist in all universes and death battle obsessed people cling to even when it's clearly contradicted in the story in question?
Would we also expect a character who draws power from a god, to lose their power when fighting in another universe because that universe doesn't have a version of that god? It's just nonsense all the way down.
Kakashi isn't even close to the Obito Vader fought.
Kakashi never beat Obito, he literally threw the fight just for the seal on his heart to be broken and let him fuse with the 10 Tails
Did he need kakashi for that? What was his plan if Naruto didn't swat away the six bijuu bomb flying at Kakashi?
He couldn't do it himself since the seal prevented him from making unfavorable actions by Madara. HE wouldn't have actually cared har Kakashi got killed, he'd just need to find another method (it would maybe have even been beneficial since Kakashi was the only one that could effectively counter Obito's Kamui.) Initially he even tried to win over Kakashi by telling how he could have everything back in the IT, like Rin and his father, but Kakashi wouldn't have it. Then he just waited for Kakashi to raikiri him and go for the heart (Kakashi didn't know it wouldn't kill him, so it was to Obito's benefit). It was just an opportunity to make Obito's plans go faster, especially since he already knew Madara was intending to use him to rinne-rebirth him to life. Madara himself even mentioned how both Obito and Rin broke their seals in the same way
It goes Obito>Vader>Kenobi>Kakashi
>he wanted to die as part of his plan
Yes, he literally let Vader win as soon as Luke was watching
Vader had the potential to be the strongest Force-user in history, but because of his injuries that never came to fruition and he was never as strong as Palpatine.
Obito was literally running in circles around kakashi, naruto, killer bee, and guy. The same naruto whose clones defeated a bunch of kage level opponents.
Bro isshiki wouldn't even qualify for the monster of the week in Marvel. Nevertheless obito can potentially win in the right circumstances...
Where's the song for Darth vader vs obito??
I unironically think Yates forgot to upload or unlist it.
Will this book justify having this guy on DB? I kinda like their lore...
Him fighting Javik would be pretty cool
Cool MU.
I only like the greg bear ones, those to me are a proper sci-fi universe and were a pleasure to go through.
the others.... you have to go through so much communication through intercoms.
Never read The Harvest though
are the halo novels good?
>Gaylo
God I hope not.
Don't you guys ever get bored of talking so much about Narito
Who else suffers greatly from the "Ignore what's going on on-screen, listen to the lore" shit?
Vidya characters in general. It was always a problem but from my perception it was exacerbated massively after DOOM (2016) and norse God of War. Every single vidya character can now output the Big Bang with one finger, like some kind of arms race
Most of the time you have to actually listen to lore or cutscenes in order to get the full scope of a characters' abilities. If Nathan Drake survives a drop out of a plane from hundreds of feet up with no real issue in a cutscene, but dies from a 30ft drop in gameplay, you're very obviously suppose to listen to the "lore" if you want to understand how powerful his survivability is. Same deal with Lara or like, 99% of vidya characters in existence.
This. Taking game mechanic limitations seriously is moronic.
Speaking of the screw attack forums... let's finally settle this debate. Who should have won?
Going by just what I remember from the forums, here were the arguments used by both sides:
e-girlgay
>It's okay to composite Mewtwo from every source imaginable
>Mewtwo is just too smart for shadow
>His mind hax was planetary... arguably even universal
>Shadow is a sonic character so it would be funny for him to lose to ryuko or Mewtwo
>Shadow has no real fighting skill
Sonicgay
>Shadow resisted the black doom's mind hax so he should be able to resist long enough to get the kill in
>Shadow has natural born fighting instincts so even if his mind gets wiped, he would still win.
>Why are we assuming Mewtwo will mind hax off the bat when he prefers to fight in all of his incarnations and uses mind hax on people like nurse joy as mere servants
>Shadow can just use time stop in generations without needing a chaos emerald (?) or without even needing to speak pretty casually.
>He has the needed stat trinity to be the one to pull off the kill shot.
>Why are we doing composite Mewtwo and not Archie shadow when they're the same character while Mewtwo vastly differs in his incarnations.
Autistic rebuttals:
e-girlgay
>Black doom is actually an anti feat as it needed shadow's DNA to work so it actually makes him more suspectable to Mewtwo.
>We can composite Mewtwo but not shadow as all Mewtwo incarnations share the same basic blueprint of a psychic purple pokemon whereas shadow's power level changes way too much.
>Frick shadow
>The sonic verse is actually sub planetary and only speed of sound. Shadow will be too slow to turn super.
Sonicgay
>*Autistic argument over the definition of a word*
>Shadow actually has a move in heroes that can atomize an opponent
>It's stated that Sonic's base dash is light speed
>No, black doom totally counts as it was still mind hax. Shadow resisting it despite doom having his DNA actually makes it more impressive.
Soon after, the forum would go on and off before dying for good with the domain now redirecting to roosterteeth.
>>Frick shadow
With this, I side with Mewtwo. I side with Mewtwo anyways. Shadow's a creature with a broken mind susceptible to mind rape.
I just want to take this opportunity to express how much I fricking hate what Sonic Heroes up to 06' did to Sonic game continuity.
Idk why and don't care enough to read the schizo explanation but VSBW give Mewtwo infinite speed, if Death Battle he not only wins against Shadow, he could win against Frieza.
Mewtwo beats Frieza because it's a psychic type and Frieza is a fighting type.
Dark-type Frieza: "Not so fast"
I'll be real I like this look on him a lot more than Gold Frieza.
It's cause this is actually contrasting with his natural white form and to some extent makes sense. Why the frick would he turn gold anyways
I assumed to mock the Super Saiyan, but his explanation is just "I know gold is a bit gauche, but I wanted to ensure you grasped my new position atop the pecking order" which would mean he created the actual transformation, but given the reason as to why Black Frieza is black it means that Golden Frieza is gold because of gold credit cards [spoiler]which means Frieza either skipped his Platinum transformation or didn't bother to make one.[/spoiler]
Platinum Cooler is going to be a villain in the next Dragon Ball movie.
Mewtwo does get the move Miracle Eye which allows him to hit Dark types with Psychic moves and ignore evasiveness which means Frieza won't be able to dodge attacks any more unless there is something wrong with Mewtwo's accuracy. I know this is a joke but you could probably rebuttal with Mewtwo needing to use the move successfully in the first place. I legit believe Mewtwo could pull a win here and I get it if you think I'm insane. UPDATE: I just looked it up and it apparently only works for the next move and it got removed in the latest game? What the hell Gamefreak?
I love Mewtwo but he's not doing anything about a galaxy buster that also has psychic powers. Maybe he could mind frick Freeza, but Freeza can just as easily speed blitz or just nuke it and the planet it's on from orbit.
Good points, I don't think Mewtwo can get above planet busting either unless you scale him to Mega Ray but even then first form Frieza could still one shot him. I was going say a combination of Mewtwo copying Frieza's stat buffs from Psych Up and Frieza torturing Mewtwo at the start of the fight, giving him an opening, but APPARENTLY Mewtwo doesn't have Psych Up as a level up move anymore since Sw/Shd and I just found out. I have no idea about VS community's stance on old natural Pokemon moves not being learnable anymore in new games. Thanks GameFreak!
If people like Buu Saga Vegeta and even Roshi could handle mind control and illusion, I wouldn't doubt Frieza could overcome Mewtwo's mindhax, especially since DB has established the idea that (in Dragonball), a stronger opponent can overcome hax abilities of weaker ones
I haven't seen Buu Saga in a while, I know Vegeta did put a lot of will power into resisting Babidi's mind control, but wasn't that based moreso on how evil the victim is? I did get that idea from Dragonball Multiverse for context. Also I think it would be more beneficial to Mewtwo to read Frieza's mind to know more about how his powers work so he could utilize his hax rather than needing to rely entirely on ending the fight by mind controlling him. As for the "Power over hax" thing Dragon Ball has, doesn't that only occur when both users are using some form of Ki? I remember that was mentioned specifically when Hit was fighting Goku (can't remember if it was the first or second fight) and it was more of an weakness about Hit's timeskip. The time skip did work on Goku (And Vegeta who was just as strong at the time and still lost), it's just that Goku overpowered the Ki used to charge the Time Skip. It's also why I disagree with "Jiren being stronger than time" argument. So what do we say happens when hax affects a Dragonball Character? Also Pokemon status moves don't check stats of a target normally. Even if we were to say Frieza could overpower all of Mewtwo's hax, Mewtwo could have at least even everything out with Psych Up. If he still had that, god damn it I cannot believe they did this to my boy. He still gets Power Swap and Guard Swap so I still wanna lean onto my Psych Up argument now but it just made it so much more simpler just using Psych Up AAAGGHGH
Side note: When you said Roshi could handle mind control and illusions, are you refering to that one chick he fought in the Tournament of Power? I forgot about that and I think I need to find a clip of that somewhere.
Apologies for the big wall of text, I was not expecting to revela my Autism levels for Frieza vs god damn Mewtwo of all things today.
>"I did get that idea from Dragonball Multiverse for context"
You do know that isn't canon right? It is fanmade.
Yea I know, that's the source I think about when I think about Babidi's mind control cause I barely watched through Buu Saga. That's a failure on my part. Oh god does that "only effects evil people" thing a fandom thing? Any clips on Youtube I can watch for more information about his mind hax? I can probably find some when he used it on Vegeta but anymore that would be helpful for this mind hax discussion?
God Multiverse is so freagin good. Babidi's takeover of the tournament was so cool.
Dude, multiverse fricking sucks.
Did... did it fall off after the Mondo Cool videos or something?
Babidi majin seal only affect those of pure evil. Yes, vegeta was evil however not as much as he was during saiyan saga. Hence why babidi didn't noticed until dabura told him about it.
There's also things like vegeta being completely unaware that shin was reading his mind or piccolo being able to hear babidi telepahy.
Basically, there are no such thing as mental defenses in dragon ball.
Hearts can also read minds without characters realizing, only he could actually fight unlike Shin and Babidi.
Pretty broken if you think about it, any plan your opponent might be cooking up has no chance of catching you by surprise.
Frieza is for Megatron!
Jonathan Joestar vs Simon Belmont
if Jonathan gets fed to a Belmont it has to be Leon
It'll be Trevor vs Joseph.
Alright, everyone has talked to death about stats and power feats for Raven and Jean, what I wanna know is this: what are Raven's mental defenses against Jean? What's stopping Jean from just reaching into Raven's head and hitting her brain's off-switch?
Raven's mind is an entire dimension where there are emotional clones of her and other stuff so regular Jean couldn't shut it down so easily, but I'm sure the phoenix could rekt the entire dimension that would probably give Raven a stroke.
I'm not sure. Jean has mentally dominated the Nightmare, who can put Eternity to sleep
>AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEE Jean sama please stop putting Beast boy's dick pics on my head AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Conversely, what's stopping Raven from just making it so Jean's not in the mood to be Phoenix and destroy anybody today?
Hopefully nothing. Lesbian action, please
The Phoenix entity itself saying it wants to kill her anyways, like how when Wanda began ficking the multiverse, the Phoenix Force said no
Raven has chained supracosmic forces to her will. Phoenix is no different
which ones
Seven Deadly Enemies of Man and the Lords of Chaos. Lords of Chaos are pretty variable individually, but together are the end of all things everywhere, and the Seven Deadly Enemies of Man are easily Phoenix-tier
post a scan saying she bound them effortlessly i read future state ss and it said they followed her willingly. phoenix would torch those losers too
To be fair, all the Phoenix could do to "stop" Wanda was scoop up her favorite toys and bring them to her cosmic saferoom. She basically ducked Wanda.
True.
Question. Did you play Pizza Tower?
Because as I said before, if you liked Faith's finale you'll love PT's finale
Alright, in the interests of a balanced look, I read the Unkindness Raven issues. Even assuming Future State is supposed to have destroyed the actual DC multiverse, which is unlikely given it's just a "What-If" story, the White Phoenix is supposed to be a multiversal constant and Jean at some point remade 616 by manually arranging the atoms. That shit is wild. Unkindness Raven also appears to be something of a far future thing that didn't actually singlehandedly destroy all that stuff, she used an army and had a lot of help. She is still going to die.
IIRC the "no more mutants" shit didn't reach the Phoenix
Oh, yeah, Phoenix pulled some people out of that shit. Yeah, Phoenix is going to roast Raven. Raven didn't even do all of that wrecking herself, she had henchmen do it for her.
Because the Phoenix isn't even a mutant
I don't remember who the host was at the time but she pulled herself and another mutant into the white hot room so they'd be safe from it
Unkindness is debateable against Phoenix since she has like, two issues worth of content, so most of her power level is conjecture. She only for sure wins against Phoenix if they give her twitter author statements.
Unkindness doesn't have shit. I read Future State: Teen Titans, Suicide Squad, and Shazam. She didn't singlehandedly lay waste to the DC multiverse, she had an army including independently powerful underlings including Lords of Chaos do it. It's heavily implied she couldn't do shit when Wizard Shazam sent Black Adam across the multiverse back to the Rock of Eternity. She is dead, even at max want.
*max wank
She chained all of those forces to her will, anon. She can do the same to Phoenix
Unfortunately, max wank she wins, because the hack writer went on twitter and said she's equal or greater to the Presence.
Is that moronic? Yes, yes it is, but she said it.
They never user what writers say online anyway, and the one time they did they said it was a joke lol
They used Morrison for Superman.
Websport
Webcelebrity
Webnovel
Webshow
Webcomic
Frick yes, it is.
It's on my list of things to check out.
I'm doing EMG stories right now and, strangely, editing a novel for a woman about a mouse that uses a hoverbike.
>internet shit doesn't matter
>on an age where everything is based on the internet
Look what happened to webmoney.
TRUST THE BLOCKCHAIN BRO LOL BORED APES!
It's true, man I wish we lived in a world where it wasn't, but it is.
Low hanging fruit man
You mean the guys who cashed out when bitcoin was its peak? Yeah, poor them, must suck having more money than you'll ever have in a lifetime.
Why do people buy bitcoin anyways?
Get rich quick scheme that actually worked at least for a while
>makes fun of crypto and NFTs
Otto got caught holding the bag Lmfaooo
>a 10 year old episode
Otto you and both know there's virtually nothing similar research-wise between episodes then and now
>says a webcomic author
Otto, you're letting your insecurities show.
How nostalgic
It seems the internet archived the meta vs Carolina thread. I'll try looking for Ben's post, but from what I remember, he deleted it shortly after. Oh well.
Link if anyone wants to look around the old forum.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160810030853/http://forums.screwattack.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=30054&start=800
Narutobros…….. I hear the Drums of Liberation……hold me.
Oh boy, cannot wait for the inevitable comparisons with UI Goku.
Kek
Link to post
https://web.archive.org/web/20160713190525/http://forums.screwattack.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=30054&start=180
It is at the bottom.
Sadly I couldn't get the original post that generated so much seethe, but here's a reference at the very least.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160715061246/http://forums.screwattack.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=30054&start=150
Was it the one at the top of this page?
>Here's my opinion on this, feel free to disagree, but please respect my opinion.
>What a waste of time IMHO. This goes against the purpose of DeathBattle - Two characters from different franchises who have big rivalries or some sort of rivalry. These characters are both from the same franchise and I can't just see why this can't be done in-universe and done by Rooster Teeth themselves (Pretty lazy if you ask me). And if it's for the views aka $$$, people want popular characters not barely recognised characters from a show that isn't really that popular IMHO (I'm not saying it's unheard of, just not that popular).
>Matches like this make me agree more and more that people should get some choice to vote for the next battle, no matter how small.
No. It was Ben's original post that talked shit about the people on his site. Sadly he edited it.
What's autismo talking about
>One of the longest running and most successful
>webshow
Oh Ben. The "web" prefix is a diminutive.
Is it?
To be fair, you're restricting it a bit by saying "webshow" or you'd just say "show". It's a bolder claim to say it's the best show, as you are including all shows not only webshows in it.
God the RvB episodes were such a waste of time
LMAO oh shit I see my posts on this link...I can't believe I was there...Boy do the years pass.
Would be funny if they include Unkindness and then still have Phoenix win
The fun thing would be if they wank Raven to be powerful than Wanda, Strange, Zatanna, Trigon, Spectre and Fate but she still loses.
it'd be even funnier if they use the Twitter shit and have it be superior to The Presence and still have Phoenix win
What was the consensus itt for Cable vs Booster Gold?
Trunks vs Cable would’ve been a far better fight
Trunks has a lot of good MUs, actually
It's just no use
why do you want to see trunks get curb-stomped by a lesbian middle schooler?
Reminder if you don't have any mental resistance feats, you lose to Obito Uchiha.
GODito will own you.
Didn't read, he loses to CHADly
Who could defeat this whole team?
Superman hard carries but even without him they're a formidable crew.
>Lightning is able to pull off straight up impossible stunts without much of a problem
>Power Ranger is... Well it's a Power Ranger we know what it does
>Batman is a smart sonuvab***h and knows his shit
>Spiderman is really fricking tough
>Shrek
Shrek is Shregaversal, he hard carries.
We got this SUPERBROS!
Logically he should win.
But Godzilla's lawyers literally have a mandate
imagine if this crossover made reference to this by saying The Writer is on Godzilla's side
Even though that's the case the implication that Godzilla isn't winning fair and square seems to offend Toho
Gamera will never be Godzillas level. Maybe he can fight kid mark Grayson or something idk
What the frick are you talking about
Stating factoids
This has nothing to do with what I said.
Just stating facts bro. Maybe image is too high tier for gamera… hey otto, any really obscure weak superheroes that gamera could crossover with?
You're really just doing this for no reason aren't you
As soon as I saw you complaining about mandates I knew I had to. Also, who cares whose side the writer is on, it’s a fictional story and they decide everything about it. Every fight and feat is decided by who the writer sides with.
Which one?
Complaining about something that exists and how it completely makes him unusable?
When was the last time you saw him genuinely lose in a crossover?
>it’s unusable because of mandates!
You’re moronic. Like genuinely. Listen to me, writers decide everything no matter what, they’re always going to be on the side of the character who wins because they decided so. Do you think that the fictional characters are going to legitimately fight in their own? Are you stupid? Given how you’re gameragay I know that’s a yes.
Toho literally mandates that he be unbeatable in crossovers.
>Monster Strike
>Eva 4D
>Vs Kong
>Symphogear
>Dragon Quest
The list goes on and on. So him beating Superman comes as no surprise
But you still haven’t answered why that makes it invalid. And if you say something about the writers siding with a character then I’ll just continue to call you an idiot.
Also what post were you referring to?
I have an admittedly bad habit of using incredibly poor word choice. I don't think I meant unusable
But he got knocked out by the megazord.
Yeah, knocked out. Not defeated.
If you knock out your enemies, they win?
No. If you also get knocked out at the same time?
A victory is not a double KO
You're like that one post
The chances are they might be anyway. And why would it end in any other way but draw? Or one victory each then draw? That's how it goes. And neither side is the bad guy so the reason for them fighting anyway has to be flimsy at best. JL will think "big monster, must be evil, gotta fight it" and Godzilla will think "big source of power, possibly dangerous, gotta fight it". And Kong will help.
S-supersisters…
Whom will Kong one shot with a clap like this?
Kong loses all his popular matchups
>But what about th-
All of them.
Eren Yeager?
Kong would devour Gamera.
I guess we’re finally getting a Batkek matchup in a couple of years
Bring me SHITama
Omniman and Homelander are guest characters in the upcoming Mortal Kombat game. Would be fun to recreate the death battle
So just Nolan standing around sandbagging until he gets bored of not killing something, and then he immediately kills HL.
>They make Omniman a kameo fighter because he's too powerful
Frickin kaijuqueers. Disgusting filth.
So is Gamera the most put-down character by these threads?
He literally only has one mildly autistic supporter and the rest is basically making him out to be Yamcha
>mildly autistic
Anon he’s been at this for years now. There’s a reason we make fun of him and gamera.
to be fair to him that painting IS pretty smug
I just realized that Gamera is incapable of looking smug. Probably because he literally never smiles
https://twitter.com/BattyWanderer/status/1682366672643186689
Holy shit he’s fast
This is how you portray super speed. Not though a bullet time sequence
You know normally anime-esque battle sequences don't work well in live-action settings, but that actually looked pretty decent
That was cool up until he started doing rapid poses, that looked moronic.
I think that them moving at speeds faster than the human eye can track would make their movements appear choppy
Flashbros? Sonichads? How are we feeling about this?
DCEU and CW are shit, not a surprise.
The Sonic movies are actually fine, they don't use slow motion in major fight scenes (this means no microwaving babies or speedsters getting speedblitzed).
I do however hope that Sonic vs Shadow in Sonic 3 is portrayed as a fight to the death at the speed of sound instead of a fist fight between 2 guys who can move fast.
Camera vs Goku will be the next match.
*Gamera.
Sorry again I meant to type "ramera"
meh
Bring me Naruto.
>not even moon level fodder
>WEAKruto jobs to Poles
EASY win for TOONFORCEFY.
Luffy jobs to water.
>Without Water the entire planet would die.
Narutobros..., why am I shaking?
>OH NO, IT'S NIKAfy. KNEEL.
>knocked out by a continental level jobber Kaido
>jobs to piercing attacks
SHITffybros......
Planetary
One Piece verse has been scaled to planetary+ since pre timeskip, narutard.
>using [HEADCANON]
Show me an offical scan, not some edit from Twitter.
[Headcanon]
As expected a Narutard doesn't read his media.
CHAD Piece solos.
>doesn't have proof for One Piece's planet size
>using hyperbolic statements
Warm piss sisters.....
>0. ZERO MEDIA LITERACY
Narutard transformation sissyboys... One Piece's World is too complex for us.
>"size of the river means that the planet is star sized"
Kek. Warm Pissers are so funny. Post offical proof where it is confirmed that the planet is star sized.
DONE. TOONFORCEFY OWNS YOU.
>"toonforce"
>got knocked out of it by a island level jobber Kaido
Can he beat Goku?
Probably not.
Soon
If Luffy even planet level for this match to not be a complete side stomp?
Luffy would get gang banged from all directions from Nardo's clones.
Also Luffy will probably fight Plas this season.
They already have Luffy stomping Naruto and Sanji as faster than Kaguya. Stick to Bleach Narutogay lmao
They were just trying to make you feel well with yourself. Because Warm Piss fans need to be groomed at all times.
>Narutard groomers strike again.
>3 episodes
>All DBX tier
>Sanji Couldn't even win against Rock Lee without losing a leg
Boring?
It was funny because Sanji got a huge powerup after that battle, he wouldn't have even taken a scatch.
What was there besides Zoro/Erza and Sanji/Lee?
Ace VS Natsu
>T-they were just lying!
The Ninjacope is real
No it’s pretty in line with Sanji vs Lee
What are good fights that would likely end in a draw or are at least actually very close
There was Atom vs Ant-Man, that one's pretty much 50/50, with both characters having good counters to the other
I missed the premiere of obito vs Vader, what was the seethe like in this thread?
Mostly just the usual annoyance at DB's usual shit logic and the resident Narutogay being obnoxious. Then Narutogay was immediately btfo when they had Gear 5 Luffy beat the tar out of peak Naruto on the dbcast so people stopped caring. It mostly got forgotten about in favor of complaining about the waste of a match that is Jean VS Raven (a match they literally deemed TOO MUCH of a stomp for Jean back during Raven vs Sparkle).
Seething over failed legends and muh dark vader wank. The Tard Wars gays have now settled into "w-we never cared anyway" mode and went back to r/deathbattle to cope
NaruTARDS are truly delusional.
yea I figured as much. It was obvious to me that obito was going to win from the outset. Not surprised Star Wars gays tried to downplay the L though.
As opposed to obitogays acting like it's the only win in their whole lives after preemptive cope about a screwjob.
>SLOWruto gay having to clutch to Jobber Wars because they repeatedly get bodied by CHAD Piece
We just need Big Mom to swat bawdura now
Short rise of seething over EU Wars nerf but quickly shifted to being pissed about them doing Phoenix VS Raven and how the booking continues to be trash
Short lived. Nobody cared that much.
A bit of head scratching, a shrug, and then moving on to question why we're getting Phoenix vs Raven when Jean obviously wins.
Yea idk why people think Raven has a chance. You don’t even have to be a huge comics fan to realize she gets wrecked by the Phoenix.
The narutard exposed himself as a pedophile
That has to be one of the funniest fricking things to ever happen in /dbg/
Wait WHAT
>Star Warsgays resorting to calling their boogiemen pedophiles
pathetic.
It was /dbs/ that exposed you, moron that you are
Also, this is Cinemaphile. Star Wars bros don't live here
/dbs/ lost.
>Star Wars babies don't live here
Could have fooled me
>proving my point
cry about it
Vader lost.
>clinging to Troon battle results
is spider-man vs kamen rider a good matchup?
Yes and no
who wins?
I wish Star Wars lost more often, the absolute salt from SW babies is doubly hilarious when you look at the current state of their franchise.
>NaruTARD talking about the state of the franchise unironically
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Narutogay. I just really like seeing Star Wars babies get ass blasted after trying to pull shit from the dog shit EU to justify how much they overhype their shitty characters. I hate Kingdom Hearts but I still thought it was hilarious when Yoda lost to Mickey (even if it was via the most moronic scaling they could have gone for). Han Solo probably wouldn't lose to Kirk because of some EU bullshit, but if the fight happens I'll be rooting for the Captain.
Except none of that happened narutard. Stop trying to act like you’re not one
>No you have to be a boogieman!
lmao
>"I am not a NaruTARD"
>has the same writing style and vocabular use
What did he mean by this?
>obitogay still gloating and mocking nonexistent people
I didn’t care about the match itself but I was hoping Vader would win to avoid this. I just knew from the behavior he has exhibited that this was going to happen.
Eh, it's a red flag for anybody and brings down the reputation of naruto and its fandom
The homosexual can't seem to help himself, a further condemnation
The real highlight of the last battle was everyone and their mother hyping pic related up as a massive game changer only for it to get black boxed and make no difference.
All that hype for nothing.
So, who won?
Who's next?
Obito beat Vader
Luffy beat Naruto on the dbcast
Raven VS Jean/Phoenix next and everyone knows its Quicksilver VS Flash levels of stomp for Jean
>Narutards seething, coping and dilating
Proving once again why they’re the most toxic fandom
What do these numbers mean?
t. not a manga/animegay
How toxic the fanbase supposedly is, that pic’s been floating around twitter the last week or so
Warm Piss gay made that "meme".
What do the percents mean?
The times the main character had sex.
>Deku
Damn what's his secret?
bad boys are out, nice guys are in at least for gay couples
>the animegays are unironically using twitter memes
It's fricking over
>JoJo, One Piece, Demon Slayer
>Not toxic
Lol. Also, why do weebs make up random numbers or ideas, and then treat them as fact so much?
It's a meme but of course narutards have to prove it right
It's hilarious how the more likely a verse is to beat One Piece characters in a fight (with the exception of AoT) the higher the percentage gets
>Jojo 4%
>MHA 96%
...huh
JoJo characters don't even go above building level. At least the MHA crew have a number of beings capable of tanking multiple nukes. Does that put them above Bleach in terms of being able to beat OP characters? No not really.
The frick?
Smartest narutard
Bro, why are Wan Piss fans so uppity about winning Death Battles when they can't win views for the show?
reminder that Naruto pissing mogged one piss in terms of views
>One Piece fans will literally never have a W against disney
Apple is about to own gisnep
Otto, I call upon thee.
Armored Core vs Mechwarrior. Who wins
Armored Core is for Front Mission
Mechwarrior is for BattleTech
Fricking heathen
Raven will win.
which battle has caused the most seethe this season? which was the biggest upset?
>which battle has caused the most seethe this season?
Either Stitch vs Rocket or Vader vs Obito, hard to say for sure.
>which was the biggest upset?
Stitch vs Rocket I guess.
>Stitch vs Rocket was the biggest upset
Really, I thought everyone agreed that Stitch was going to win? Meanwhile in the weeks leading up to Vader vs Obito, people thought it was just gonna be a repeat of Kakashi vs Obi-wan.
So far all of the fights this season have been milquetoast in terms of salt. The closest thing we got to seethe was Sneedy going
>"Uhm ackshually, the DB team doesn't have to explain our thought process and voting to the fans after a result"
If you want REAL salt, you're gonna have to wait for Chaos Horse vs Bill.
>Stitchket
>Upset
In what world? Everyone thought Stitch was going to rape, and he did. The only actual upset was Vader vs Obito.
>B-b-but Chosen vs Dragon!
moronic and desperate discord raiders doomposting about Swan were a minority, and they don't count as people.
>Chaos Horse VS Bill for salt
Really? Seems pretty easy win for Chaos Horse unless you mean him winning would cause salt. He pretty much has answers to everything Bill can do while having moves that utterly cuck Bill like casual interdimensional portals. Bill trying to pull mind shenanigans would unironically end up screwing himself too based on the comics.
The very announcement and discussion of that fight will cause salt, regardless of who wins. That shit is so radioactive, the entire DB Discord had to quarantine and prevent ALL discussion of it because morons were doxxing each other. You'll have two weeks of pure autism in every Death Battle focused space when Horsecord is announced.
I would have thought Colex would be more controversial. Only reason I can see Discord VS Bill causing an uproar is because muh horses
Colex is far less controversial. The overlap between the inFamous and Prototype fanbase is massive. Meanwhile, Horsefrickers are majorly autistic zoophiles with a superiority complex, and Fallfrickers are majorly autistic pedophiles who haven't watched anything other than GF in their life. It's literally a clash of two autistic titans.
I come from the future, a horsegay allahuackbar DB headquarters. Ben miraculously survived though
This season? Depends how you mean seethe. Obito VS Vader probably in terms of result, but nothing particularly huge compared to others. Killua VS Misaka in terms of "who the flying frick wanted this?" Dragonborn VS CU had grumbling during the leadup due to worrying about Swan being a homosexual, and while he WAS a homosexual with his insta revive universal CU, his wanking could not beat Kirkbride autism so people were satisfied in the end.
>Which was the biggest upset
Vader VS Obito I guess. Every other match was pretty easy and had the expected winner with only Atom VS Ant being up in the air. Everyone knew Stitch was winning his match too. What pissed people off was "muh multiversal stronger than Odin Rocket Raccoon".
>NOOOO MUH HECKEN DRAGONBORN COULD HAVE BEEN CHEESED OUT OF A WIN
I'm surprised anyone gave a shit about that fight given how dog shit Elden Scrolls lore is.
Everyone knew Dragonborn should have won well in advance. People were just worried about Swan who is known for being a biased homosexual and calling the match his white whale after Dio VS Alucard which he also pulled turbo wanking for his favorite. He even personally voiced Chosen Undead in the episode.
He still did go maximum overwank for Chosen Undead and likely thought he had it in the bag. Then the rest of the team pulled out Kirkbride lore and he got smashed
This meme confounds me, because he very obviously didn't give a shit about Undead losing. The fricker was excited to show the preview, he willingly voiced CU, he had full creative control of the fight's writing and animation. You act like he was mentally shattered over his zombie being made un-undead.
Probably because of just how far he wanked Chosen Undead relative to how he actually is. The dude gave him MFTL, Universe busting, unstoppable revives, and made said revives instantaneous. He went beyond VSBW levels of autism for Dark Souls.
>and made said revives instantaneous.
Alright, I can almost tolerate the other shit but that's too fricking far. All the enemies in the area fricking reset when you rest or respawn, the time lapse is heavily implied. Fricking fake fan.
video game logic or something
It's pretty obvious gays here were secretly hoping CU would win so they could complain more about Swan. Then they had to pretend they weren't shitting their pants for two weeks and act like they got one over him.
CU shouldn't win even though Dragonborn doesn't actually have a solid method of killing CU for good outside of muh planet busting lore scaling, but I was kind of hoping ESgays would get cheated in the same way Black Adam was cheated, because it would have been really funny.
Dragonborn had plenty of methods of stopping Chosen Undead. Could have used the Thuum to remove the curse, Dawnbreaker deleting it via ESO wank, or just trapping him in an ice block or between dimensions. It's why pretty much everyone knew it should be a stomp for Dovahkin. He just has too many methods to counter and deal with Chosen Undead even at his most wanked
See, and that's why I was hoping for a ES lose. God I hate that homosexualy fricking nonsense power scaling setting so god damned much. Of course the fans lap it up because it's not like the games have any other redeeming qualities.
I also really fricking hate the precedent the fight set because it opens the floodgates for customizable characters with no canonical skill set, which just opens the way for more shitty wank fights.
Frankly you shouldn't have had to wank either of em. It should have been an easy win for Dragonborn simply from a gameplay standpoint. Your standard Chosen Undead would get btfo by Fusrodah barring super poise focus maybe. Then the time shout which they have absolutely nothing for.
*rolls through your Fusrodah
*Parries your poorly implemented, one dimensional combat
*Points down on your corpse
It's weird that you fall back on a nothing shout though when Dark Souls man just straight up has better versions of it in Force/WotG/Emit Force. The time stop one cheeses out Dark Souls man though, yeah.
>your poorly implemented, one dimensional combat
But enough about FromSLOP
Oh boy, I sure do love having exactly two options in combat, block and attack.
That's the real reason everyone rolls a stealth archer, to completely dodge the absolute dog shit that is nu Elder Scrolls combat.
Still better than the same lukewarm diarrhea FromSLOP keeps shiting out
>No u
Enjoy sucking Todd's dick I guess.
No one plays elder scrolls for the combat. Meanwhile dark souls has a die hard fan base because of its combat.
>Bend will
Even ultra admitted it in the q&a
Don't listen to rocketgay. It was vader vs Obito. Killua vs Mikasa was a snoozefest. Everyone was hoping for an upset there outside of misakagay.
the wait up to CU vs DB here was filled with homosexuals doomposting that CU was going to win despite it being super obvious DB was going to win but even if you told them that they'd still whine and cry that CU would win
Post fights we could have gotten instead of more unwanted Marvel vs DC slop
Should the characters own moronation be taken into account in vs analysis?
There are a lot of OP characters that could easily win a match if they were murder machines without feelings and normal intelligence, but in canon they are so wienery/stupid that they would end losing the match.
The absolute limit is Goku saving Superman from dying to Kryptonite just so he can continue fighting him at his best.
I mean, that is in character for Goku.
Well it has no actual meaning in the fight other than to have a small character moment which is why it came out of nowhere.
Yeah, Goku saved Superman from dying to an extremely situational weakness because it ordinarily doesn't factor and it makes Goku out of character even if that is considered as a win.
That makes sense for goku since he did give cell a sensu bean.
>That makes sense for goku since he did give cell a sensu bean.
That was specifically because he wanted to push Gohan past his limits.
They already take intelligence into account most of the time anon, the main thing they ignore is mercy/no killing rules.
Better question:
Who wins, the guy who's twice as strong, or the guy who's 2000 times more aggressive?
By Dragon Ball rules, the guy who's twice as strong, his opponent lacks the ability to harm him with brute force.
I mean you could probably win even against a ultra fit guy if you were feral enough to bite his neck like you were a fricking zombie from a gore movie and stick your fingers in his eyes.
That's kind of what I mean yeah
Depends.
I mean we just had Vegeta not too long ago so the answer is yes.
Yes. If for example you had Okuyasu ACTUALLY use his stand in the broken way then you're doing it wrong