Next fight is Silver Surfer (Marvel) vs Martian Manhunter (DC) on Aug 28.
Fight:
https://streamable.com/0z4gmf
Speedy's blood is mostly lard by percentage.
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Death Battle
Next fight is Silver Surfer (Marvel) vs Martian Manhunter (DC) on Aug 28.
Fight:
https://streamable.com/0z4gmf
Speedy's blood is mostly lard by percentage.
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Mega:
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>Character took a hit from GOD and shrugged it off
>Thought faster than GOD
>Lost to a surfer
The frick?
>god
Not even an obstacle for norrin
better examples too. norrin was able to fight the griever at the end of all things for 16 minutes straight in fantastic 4 and held together the never queen’s heart and prevented her from dying and causing infinite multiversal fates from ending
Didn't black panther stalemate Surfer one time?
When are people going to realize that "God" means nothing in fiction
She left a few atoms behind and didn't double tap. There's no reason Norrin wouldn't scan and delete all atoms around him for light years.
>Faster than God
Diminishing returns with everyone being infinite speed.
Galactus because the tech he keeps in Taa II is very, very good, and he can summon his ship with a finger snap.
I'll always say it.
Death Battle's biggest mistake was insisting all fights have to end in a kill.
Naw, Captain Atom vs Moleculeman is more thematic (Owen stomps by the way).
This is Clark being nice, like when he said Diana was faster and a better fighter than him yet when he fought her for real in OMAC Project she went OH GOD OH SHIT OH GOD OH FRICK as he choke clammed her into the sun and only survived because she had some green k on her person.
THAT was how the fight should have gone.
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>Death Battle's biggest mistake was insisting all fights have to end in a kill.
Honestly, it really was.
Like, it consistently leads to the absolute horrendous mischaracterization of the fighters because they HAVE to kill each other.
Like, it would be fine if the edgier anti-heroes killed each other, or the heroes killed the villains, or the villains killed other villains.
But having Supes kill Goku who is portrayed as some nothing else matters fighting autist blood knight is a disservice to both of them more than just having either character beat them.
The most interesting part about these theoretical battles are the what-ifs that could come from an outcome and how they start to fight in the first place.
>"Why are we fighting."
>"DUNNO LOL DIE."
Absolutely stellar writing. They didn't even try.
They don't need to mangle characterization to find out who wins. Extremely few fights flip with characters fighting in-character.
What's especially sad about SS vs MM is that a reason for them to fight was really, really easy to come up with.
Surfer leaders Galactus to a suitable planet with no life on it--Mars.
J'onn goes NUH UH THAT'S STILL MY HOME.
EZ PZ reason.
Yeah I know they don't. It's what makes it so much more fricking cringe when you have shit like Captain Marvel (The c**t version) get angrier and more killy when she sees that Billy is just a child.
Nothing ruins a character more than them seeing their opponent turn into a child and actually becoming MORE murder-y. (Here's looking at you, Flashpoint Animated Wonder Woman)
I can't think of how many fights that wouldn't have ended in a kill if both sides weren't "le bloodlustod"
Going off just this season.
>Atom vs Ant Man
No fricking way would either kill the other. Pym in particular would be so kill shy that if he accidentally killed another superhero he would, no bullshit, kill himself. Yellowjacket made him put a gun to his head, no way murdering another superhero wouldn't make him pull.
>CU vs DB
They probably wouldn't lose sleep over killing the other.
>Anime lightning match
I don't know much, but I think executing a child over stealing your button is probably not lightning girl's characterization
>Stitch vs Rocket
You know what? I can actually buy them trying to kill each other. Rocket probably only knows Stitch as a dangerous space bioweapon and Stitch isn't afraid to kill without Leelo to reign him in.
>Vader vs Obito
Neither would care about killing the other.
>Phoenix vs Raven
You know what? I want to say homicide is out of character here...but no. No, I really can see Jean wanting to murder Raven and Raven killing her in self defense. Jean has done worse, let's be honest. But I don't see Raven snuffing out the life force of a multiverse. She should be able to intuit what the White Hot Room is.
I still can't believe they went there. First straight-up setting kill in the series.
>Guts vs Dimitri
Neither would be adverse to killing the other.
>MM vs SS
Killing is so OOC for both of them they had to get meta at the end and make Norrin cry.
God, poor Norrin. Has any winner suffered like he suffered? He read J'onn's mind. He KNOWS he just committed genocide. That's got to fricking sting.
So out of 8 fights only 3 have to change to be in-character.
I mean, you'd weirdly be wrong about lightning girl, at least with her tendency to fricking fire instant death projectiles at people. Index is written really badly but she has in the past shot railgun projectiles at the protagonist just because she thinks he can take them (Even though his own ability is just the ability to nullify supernatural attacks if he blocks them with his right arm.)
Jokes aside though, I can't see Killua or her wanting to go for a kill against some random kid in the street and Killua is a trained assassin. Killua you could maybe make an argument for if he was having a bad day but Misaka would at most go for a crippling shot.
As for Guts vs Dmitri... I dunno, Guts has softened up a lot since the eclipse, and I can't see him truly wanting to kill aguy who has clearly suffered a lot like he has, he only really kills total scumbag humans. Also Dmitri is a Fire Emblem lord so surely he should be trying to recruit Guts' ass to his army or whatever the frick Fire Emblem guys do.
They used Dimitri at a point in his life where he'd have probably never stopped stabbing Guts' corpse, the ending they went with doesn't work with the Dimitri they wanted to use.
Death Battle's writer don't understand the characters they claim to celebrate, what's new
If they had Dimitri treat Guts’ corpse like a piñata after he died standing, zerkers would go……………………. Berserk [spoiler]
I can understand the decision to direct his bloodlust at something else.
I totally get it, they wanted a fight between Black Swordsman-Lost Children era Guts and Savage Boar Dimitri, but didn't want the logical conclusion that would bring. Honestly they could have gone with late game Dimitri and modern Guts and the ending would've worked a lot better.
Imagine zerkies seething and their beloved gutti getting turned into a pincushion
Also, the word you're looking for is "averse" and not "adverse". From one writer to another.
I suspect that this might be a reason behind the increased amount of villain fights in later seasons compared to earlier ones, since it isn't so out of character for them.
It's their brand. It also shouldn't be a mystery that versus discussions pander to edgy kids who want to see death battles.
I think they have zero complaints about their profit numbers.
It’s not even edgy anymore. Tetsneto, Obader, and MMSS all tried to make it some “tragic death” to bait for Redditor tears. Edgelords would probably want SS to go “Time, huh?” and then travel back to when MM was a baby and blow up all of Mars.
I think magneto vs tetsuo’s was done pretty well. in fact, I’d say that fight had some of the best animation + storytelling in recent seasons
It’s not edgy because a select number of fights didn’t end in the opponent being reduced to guts and blood? In this season alone, we saw Atom get torn to shreds by ants.
You forgot Johnathan vs Tanjiro and fricking SpongeBob vs Aquaman
I don't see SpongeBob being the type of character who'd be happy about killing a guy
Asta yes, SpongeBob no
I’m talking about how all of them have a “tragic” death
Idk wtf is with me mentally but I actually cried when Aquaman died in that fight,
Same, say what you want about DB, but they have some talent if they can make me tear up at the death of SuperFriends Aquaman
The feels man... its fricks with your head, especially when Aquaman cried at how weak he was, but sucked it up, and fought even at how disadvantaged he was
You lads are easily manipulated, damn. No wonder halfwits are actually finding that blatantly obvious attempt at cynically tugging at heartstrings compelling.
It could have played smarter by making more deaths incidental accidents or hoist by their own petard
Goku putting all his power into a Kamehameha in a last ditch effort to beat Supes down to putting all his lifeforce into it only for it to not end up putting Big Blue down and then for Goku to do that Majin Vegeta turn to ash thing would've been fricking kino.
I think aang vs edward was ground zero for character assassination to fit the kill requirement. aang is kinda just surrounded by rock pillars after not getting hit once the entire battle and then goes avatar state and decides edward should die.
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Okuyasu (JJBA) va Kuabara (Yu Yu Hakusho)
That art of okuyasu looks kinda weird.
DCeased Supes vs Zombie Spidey
Not much good art for Supes, but how's this
Thanks
Kenshiro vs Reimu (To add some spice. Both using their ultimate techniques since their both named Musou Tensei. Reimu's english name for her ultimate technique is either Fantasy Heaven, Fantasy Nature, or the latest name change, Innate Dream)
Dominic Toretto VS CJ from GTA
Pinkydoll vs I Need More Boolets Guy
Tarn (IDW) vs Exodus (Marvel)
Q from Trek vs QAnon
Umm the arbiter vs predator?
Jason Goldstriker vs Chris McLean
The Child (Young Justice) vs The Collector (Owl House)
Gremmy Thoumeaux vs The Collector (Bleach vs The Owl House)
Chad Nikko avocado vs Sigma Godzilla
Bigfoot vs Nessie
Silver Surfer vs Metron
Mr Terrific vs Mr Fantastic vs Mr Incredible vs Mr Majestic
Whats the general consensus on who wins this?
the king of jobbers galactus
Galactus winning is the most agreed upon but I've seen a few say Unicron wins both dying and nobody winning is still the best outcome
Depends on how feed Galatus is. At his peak he scales to stuff like the Phenox Force but he can also job hard if he's hungry.
Galactus effortlessly rape stomps. Don't believe the lies of anyone who says otherwise.
Unicron is a multiversal singularity who is the same in every universe
>Demo vs Scotsman
Now this is a fight I can get behind. Am I right to assume the Scotsman wins?
Does the scotsman have a way to counter a grenade pil to the face?.
Is there a matchup where both characters can become so self-aware to notice that they are fighting for no reason at all, interrupt their battle and go to kill Wiz and Boomstick?
That would be a cool "joke match".
That's basically what the seven battle royale was about.
Pink horse vs DP was just that and it sucked
What your thoughts?
Per vsbw, swan, and speedy. Kratos can destroy that.
i think this is some wack ass shit that doesn't exist
holy shit
Why do you keep posting it?
I've read that a black hole this massive isn't actually that destructive or active.
>SS: “Hey Manhunter, why are we trying to murder each other right now?”
>MM: “Uhh, the plot told us to?”
>SS: “oh ok”
I can’t be the only one bothered by this shit, right? The animation was bland, the MU unwanted, and the death mid, so the least they could’ve done is make an interesting story as to WHY they were trying to kill each other.
Is this the last season or something? It genuinely feels like they’re not even trying anymore. And not because they’re too successful to fail; even they can’t be blind to how sharply DB views have dropped over the years. It seems like they’re deliberately trying to tank the entire series with bland fights between literal-who MUs so they have an excuse to retire at this point.
I mean, it was always a teenage shit that gor overblown into edgy "kill-or-be-killed".
Not that mature movies or games are against this plots, but because this lacks narrative engagement and became fanbase wienerfight, it was doomed to fail sooner or later. Plus the fact the debates actually get more fierce after the result then it pretty much means that in case the idea was to end the debate, then it failed, though again in their defense I don't think they really believed they could actually end the debates to begin with.
If death battle dies, then what?
>even they can’t be blind to how sharply DB views have dropped over the years.
Thats less of a matchup thing and more of the idea of versus shows just being MUCH less popular today then 10 years ago
Then what?
I'm not delusional, someone else would probably try to take its place as the default "ultimate show of final matchup destiny" or whatever crap it is.
Some might try to watch because "its not Death Battle" but then flamewars will rise up again and it'll be an endless cycle.
>someone else would probably try to take its place
I feel like that's also come and gone these days. One Minute Melee is done, and the new Mini Rumble just exists to shill shitty waifu merch. And any other Vs series out there may as well not exist.
Pretty much.
But that's because this kind of shit is not really something a lot of people would really enjoy. And lets be real, even people that might have liked probably started to become jaded at the prospect the more the time passes by.
Plus, people get tired of caps, and unless you are Superman people would also get tired of a concept based on caps rather than potential.
VS Series just arnt part of the cultural zeitgeist anymore.
Them fighting because Norrin stole J'onn's oreos would've unironically been a better reason.
An actual good reason for them fighting could've been Norrin bringing Galactus to Mars but J’onn won’t let him eat the last remnants of his home so the two end up fighting.
>“Uhh, the plot told us to?”
that literally that
>is this the last season
GOD I WISH
Has the outcome changed? Also, is Blazeblue THAT confusing?
Assuming we mean endgame Ragna then yeah Ragna wins.
>Is Blazblue THAT confusing
Not especially although theres a bunch of shenanigans going on. Its far more hax focused than Guilty Gear
The best part of this match was purple Ragna utterly SEETHING over how hard Wiz n’ Boomstick were shit-talking white Ragna’s backstory
They should talk shit about more characters. Especially Ben 10
>halcope
No, and no, but it is extremely boring repeating the same NOTHING happening over and over again every game
>Endgame Ragna vs Strive Sol
Takes a fricking shit over the entire Guilty Gear verse considering that the highest they go without the Adam Eve reaction is universal. But at the same time it would be rather boring to do this MU again rather than something different for both characters
>Storylines
Blazblue, and most of its characters, are bound by the lessons and mythology of ancient past to make things more coherent and inspired. Guilty Gear is just loosely tied together from metal and manga influences, it has no direction and I doubt Daisuke was interested in writing when he made the series. That's the issues when you make stuff on rule-of-cool, cause if you don't know anything, your characters lose their plot and direction at the drop of a hat.
E.G. That Man turning into a literalwho instead of the big bad.
Susano'o is always the main focus of Blazblue, it is the larger "Susano'o" character (Jin, Terumi, Hakumen) together that both share developments and troubles and either overcome or fail to overcome them. Ragna is often a foil, because he is Yamato-no-Orochi.
This way, Susano'o's story completes alongside Ragna's, wherein Ragna expels the evil of Susano'o while leaving the good (Hakumen/Jin). It repeats itself out the ass, but it arrives at the destination what I'm saying. The tale of Susano'o. Jin is butthurt about his sister, Terumi is butthurt about his sister. Hakumen is Jin and Terumi without being butthurt about his sister. Flows together.
Endgame Ragna definitely beats Endgame Sol.
People often point out how violent Ryuko and Bayo's deaths, but to be fair their opponents needed to completely destroy their bodies for them to die. Otherwise, they could have healed or regenerate their wounds. It was necessary to eradicate them entirely, till not a trace of them remained. And Bayo is among the few ultra violent 3d female deaths. Those are rare to this date.
Cammy, Ivy, and Galaxia were also kinda cruel, but at least those were 2d. And Wanda or Phoenix it was just them not concealing their bias against Marvel, again.
Thats dude point is odd, considering the most brutal deaths in the show go to men
Ivy, Bayo, and Galaxia are really up there in terms of violence though. They are on par with the most violent male deaths, except for Homelander's. But I suppose it's normal most people don't like to see a character they have a crush on die violently, that's why anons often complain about some girls deaths, especially Cammy, Ryuko and Bayo's.
Damn, Goku and Tifa's demises weren't that violent, and their fans complain a lot about them till today.
Atom, Saberwolf, Hulk, Ace, Virgil, Goku Black, Silver Samurai had worse deaths I think.
>Damn, Goku and Tifa's demises weren't that violent, and their fans complain a lot about them till today
It was the more the framing of the deaths that pissed people off. Goku just standing there letting himself die, and Tifa getting her neck snapped and RWBY ad afterwards
>Virgil
But Anon, Miles is the one who died
I don't think people so much complained about Tifa's death itself more so than the fact the reasoning was absolute dogshit and clearly done with merger bias in mind.
Surely there had to be a better RWBY matchup they didnt need to pull out there ass for right?
At the time, I always thought Yang looked like that cat girl from Akame Ga Kill.
No RWBY matchup is good. Why does it come up every thread?
>Why does it come up every thread?
BC Rooster teeth owns DB? And one of the biggest controversies comes fromRWBY being on the show
It’s a RWBY shill. It’s why they keep wanting to latch onto TMNT
Maybe but Tifa was there for name value
>Surely there had to be a better RWBY matchup
People don't like seeing women getting beat up. Is like in dbz, people complained about videl getting punched to a bloody pulp by spopovich but probably weren't really bothered by 6 yr gohan getting his neck broken by reccome. Double Standards
I found Ryuko's death to be more humiliating than violent. They actually animated her breasts flopping around as she was getting disintegrated by Shadow.
I still think Surfer vs Atom would have worked
It probably works, but I'm tired of capeshit vs capeshit unless it's Spawn vs Ghost Rider. I don't know who else would work for Surfer, but it'd be nice to see.
To me it's Pepsiman.
Captain Atom is for Captain Marvel, even if I must vouch for that match alone
That sounds terrible
Atom is for Eve, it's destined
Eve is for scissoring gwen
t. least pedophilic bencuck
>instantly thinking about children
that you, halpedo?
They have zero things in common aside from being gingers. Of all the times you want redditors shilling for simple matchups, they pick the shittiest ones.
How many good capeshit macthups are left?
>Scarecrow vs Mysterio
>Galactus vs Unicron
>Spawn vs Ghost Rider
Does Hellboy count as capeshit? Cool fight either way.
joker vs green goblin if we see that homosexual in clown makeup beg for his life as norman squashes his head like a big ol grape. the 2D scene being a trace of pic related for no reason
Bullseye vs Deadshot
Ego vs Mogo, Catwoman vs Black Cat, The Question vs Rorschach
>the joker vs redskull
>starfire vs lum
>hellboy vs devilman
>hal jordan (no ring) vs ben tennyson (no omnitrix)
>the punisher vs redhood
>mistress death vs death of the endless
>Dormammu vs Jedah Dohma
The Human Torch vs Firestorm
Shazam vs Miracleman
Original characters vs their deconstructions is an underused idea in general. The only one that springs to mind right now is Deathstroke vs Deadpool.
I wouldn't mind Manhattan vs Miracleman too, tbh
Most Z-tier matchup ever.
>saves your season
Prob going to get him next season, with Makima dead and all
That’s not Naruto vs Luffy
Dont fead by boy like that
I really hope they just wait for One Piece to end before they do anything with Luffy, especially vs Naruto.
And yes I say that knowing full well Death Battle could die before One Piece ends.
What are the chances of them buying 11D Bill?
Most likely as completely moronic as that is. They've stopped using logic for awhile so they'll just go "there's 11D aliens in this book!?! Bill must also be 11D because he is the strongest and beat Time Baby!!!"
Nevermind the fact the plot of the show is that he fricking blows at dimensional stuff and needs help getting into another dimension in order to turn it into his playground...which is also fricked up by basic b***h runes
The aliens died to a crash in 3-D space. It's completely useless lmao
Yes but again this is death battle but they'll just turbo wank it and ignore context like how they said Raven was Spectre tier from a clash shot while leaving out how Spectre immediately bulldozed her in said clash
Seems like an excellent episode to bring up dimensional tiering
Still dont know how dimensional tiering works
Byleth vs the Traveler/Simon vs Kyle
It doesn't work.
It kind of assumes even the transdimensional laws from one fictional product work the same as in others.
Ocasionally for it to "make sense", they kinda have to pit for example an Atlantic ocean fish and Pacific ocean fish right into the Antartic ocean.
You are infinitely stronger than a 2D drawing on paper, so 4D is infinitely stronger than a 3D person in he same way, ad infinitum (most fictions don't work that way though)
>You are infinitely stronger than a 2D drawing on paper,
How does this work in movies and video games where the environment is clearly 3D? Are video game characters more powerful than comic characters?
Abstraction, all of fiction does it. Interstellar, while not a dimensional tiering instance, represents the fifth dimension by presenting it as a three-dimensional library of sorts.
Seems like mental gymnastics to me. Movies and Vidya are just as 3d as our world.
I got it! They exist on a flat CD disk or as data! Now I understand dimensional tiering!
I mean it's literally the only thing they can do, you can't depict higher dimensions in 3d on a 2d screen projection. You have to abstract it.
yeah imma be honest, I think most dimensional tiering is kinda bs unless the dimensions are clearly defined to have some kind of hierarchy since like you said, they don’t really follow that most of the time. comics take that shit fr though, if something’s higher dimensional in marvel or DC, they mean it
Speedy aka the sonicsona schizo who said that Raven can kill the Phoenix Entity by herself said that is his dream to see Bill kill Discord so they will buy anything for Bill
Does he think that Speedy is AkumaTh?
They both have Sonic OCs.
>they give Bill 11D shit
>they proceed to give Discord 21D shit scaling to the Transformers multiverse with Queen Chrysalis
What the frick is an 11D character?
11th dimensional
I think Discord has this in the bag.
The entire premise of Gravity Falls is based on Bill being unable to traverse dimensions on his own power and needing to trick humans into helping him do it.
Discord can casually move between different dimensions, even living in one, and create portals to whatever reality he desires (especially in the comics)
Does this not already indicate Discord is stronger than Bill?
also to point out Discord cannot be blocked by unicorn hair considering he interacts with those creatures in a regular basis with no problems
Kneel
If Death Battle gave you the option of creating another Toph vs Gaara, in other words a matchup where the one that should actually lose wins the match.
What matchup would you choose and who would you choose as the winner?
It has to have connections.
Omniman VS Superman with Omniman winning. The DCgay salt would be astronomical and fun to watch. It's funnier because Invincible is the current normie bait so they wouldn't care about Superman losing.
I dont know, I think even Invincible would think that something is wrong there
Goku vs Superman 3 with Goku as the winner.
I wonder if Cinemaphile will shut down because there would be a massive Cinemaphile raid if that happens.
At the risk of getting fricking destroyed by you guys I would fricking die laughing if Chief won again after all this wank DoomSlayer got
In all honesty I think they'd say "multiversal lore is nonsense" but give Doomguy the win anyways off of the Crucible and BFG9000, though it'd be funny to see Chief win again.
As much as I hate the matchup, Zero killing Meta Knight would be hilarious.
It'd be fun!
I never want light vs columbo to happen, but if it happens light should win so the fans would shut the frick up about doing those meme matches no one wants.
I thought people wanted Light vs Walter white
There is a growing push for columbo instead because it is heccin unexpected. Yeah it's moronic.
Lets not kid oursleves, both are fricking stupid
Hahaha yes but at least Walt has some contrast with light.
It's funny how you could mention Walter vs Tony soprano or light vs lelouch and those Black folk would get upset real quick. Really the push for these nu-match ups is so they can feel special.
walt can withstand the NOT METH explosion
therefore he can probably withstand anything tony throws at him
What about a gun?
breaking bad guns>sopranos guns
I don't care who wins but if we are doing a matchup where it has to have connections then I'm going for Souther vs Utsuho. I just want to see them fight especially when their sprites look similar.
Ruby vs Maka via Justice League crossover scaling
If DB, for this match and this match only, went, “All this multiversal lore is clearly nonsense compared to what’s actually shown in game, so we’re not counting any of it”, I would kneel so fricking hard. Asura vs Kratos is equally deserving of said treatment.
Light vs Columbo is so weird. It feels like they wanna give Light the Homelander treatment, where he’s put into deliberate stomp matches with threadbare connections for the sake of torture porn. Homelander getting that treatment makes sense, because he probably reminds DBgays of the same kids that bullied them back in high school. But Light just gives off the air of some snobby nerd from the chess club. Feels kind of sociopathic for other nerds to wanna see him get humiliated like that. I can’t recall old Death Note fans hating Light in that particular way until very recently.
On light vs columbo, how would columbo know he is kira? The death note is supernatural. I don't see how he would know before it is too late. Ofc he stomps in a gun fight from the getgo.
Simon vs Kyle
For extra salt points in the animation not only Simon kills White Lantern Kyle, he also kills the Life Entity itself so Simon ends up killing all DC.
Luz and Anne but Luz win because of some bullshit reason and seeing the reaction of Amphibian seething will be very nice to see
Kratos vs Asura
Lame and gay.
>Yang vs Tifa 2
With Yang winning again, simply for the absolute giga-shit storm it would cause.
Or
>Neopolitan vs Nui Harime
Because that would actually be a kind of cool fight. Give Neo the win just because I would be interested to see how hard DB has to bullshit how Neo could win.
>cyrax's planet destroying fatality is back
>rain can kick you so hard you get sent flying across the world and back
>liu kang can fricking summon black holes
SFbros...
KIbros...
Thinking about it I'm surprised we never saw Liu Kang yet
>jago has to face a version of liu kang that's a fricking god
it is SO over
So, uh... why not Kung Lao?
Because he's lame, or at least the way he's been portrayed in the modern era.
So you're trying to tell me Jago is too cool and popular for Kung Lao? Jago, who's never even had a single portrayal in a major international motion picture?
I didn't anything about Jago being more popular, just cooler. Honestly I just wanted to dig at Lao's characterization in the modern games.
Who wins? Chances it happens after Gio vs Joker
The problem with this is that Cyber Sleuth protagonist doesn't have a 'canon' partner beyond just the starters, which even then branch out so much in their evolutions that they'd have to pick the most boring linear path for it to work.
I don't know what the scale of Persona is or if it's like SMT's scaling, but Digimon scaling is absolutely wild. Especially in the canon of Cyber Sleuth where Digimon like Demon Lords are so powerful they have avatars in every dimension.
Pretty massive stomp in favor of Digimon. Not only is Yu not even the strongest in his verse, he is relatively featless and can't really be power scaled. You would need actual SMT protagonist like Abel or Nahobino to fight Royal Knights.
I'd like to see
Adachi vs Yoshikage Kira
Giorno vs Joker
A SMT protagonist battle royal.
Flynn vs Eleven (DQ)
Aiba, and it's not even close. As another anon said Yu is low tier for SMT. His Wild Card power is merely to perceive truth. Hard Counter to characters like Uchiha or Aizen, but useless against a clear cut character like Aiba.
Aiba then has RK and Eater Scaling, and Eaters potentially scale even beyond Digimon themselves.
Like we're talking creatures who upon being sent away to a higher dimension so far removed from our it was calculated their odds of returning was next to zero and doing so rewrote the very timeline. Like dead characters were alive and other characters ceased to exist in the consciousness of non protags
But muh physically null persona and joker scaling.
>Silver Surfer won against Martian Manhunter
Superbros???
Handbooks confirms J'onn is stronger than Clark too.
Is it consistent or just outliers?
It's a consistent statement that has never really been backed up.
Not even once?
Well, Fernus pretty easily took out Supes along with most the other league but a temporary form isn't what most people are talking about.
Martin Manhunter is shown to emotionally unstable. He cracks under pressure so no, he is not more powerful than Superman.
Who actually wins between Kira and Adachi? I don't know anything about P4, but I assume Bites the Dust wouldn't be a factor considering it requires outside help.
I saw a comment on the Brandon Yates track, which is awesome. Which shows a ok line of reasoning
>Kira can technically one shot but surprisingly that doesn’t help him too much here. We’ve seen him get outsped and outpowered by Crazy Diamond multiple times. Plus, using some really weird Persona scaling, we can actually say that Adachi’s universe level. The protags frequently face shadows, those shadows usually have some bits of info when you get them as persona. Like how one of them can apparently eat the universe in 4 seconds, that alone puts almost any Persona user’s output semi relative to that and even speed since dodging exists. Not only that, we can also scale Adachi to Yu, who scales to Joker who also technically destroyed billions of universes near the end of the original Persona 5, but that’s more iffy and confusing. Plus, Adachi doesn’t have to get close to Kira at all. He can just stay far away and nuke the poor morioh resident.
>To sum it up, Adachi’s far faster and more physically powerful, he may be able to see Killer Queen (depending on what Death Battle decides but that’s hardly a factor) and he can range out Kira, who has a lot of trouble with fighting at a range. Also Adachi could most likely destroy Sheer Heart Attack. Star Platinum’s barrage was able to damage it just a bit and considering how much Adachi outclasses Star Platinum in strength, he could almost definitely destroy Sheer Heart Attack. Bites the Dust might work but that would usually mean “outside help” so not really an option. (Small part, He can see Stray Cat’s bubbles if he can’t see Killer Queen.)
"universal persona" is not an OK like of reasonment
Why, it’s correct
Adachi. Primarily fights at range which is already a bad time for Kira. On top of that, Adachi has OHKO methods at range or can simply carpet bomb the entire field and Kira can't do shit about it.
>Goes on reddit to check out what aspies sperg out about the new Death Battle
>"It's so sad"
>"This is one of the best episodes because of how it emphasizes their characters instead of their abilities"
>"That was actually tragic"
>"Bro, THAT final speech is easly one of the best perform of voice acting in the show."
Cringe, but not quite the flavor of cringe I was looking for.
Death Battle has fallen
billions must die
legalize no limit fallacies
The ending IS pretty good, but that's just the problem. The beginning and end were kino, but the actual fight sucked ass. It was mostly just flying and shooting, and it escalated too quickly.
>Have Jonn probe Norrin's memories, show his despair at losing planets, the loss of his home and the terrifying power of his master
>Jonn relates Norrin's losses to his own and Mars
>He tries to mindwipe Norrin to leave him without power or will, Norrin becomes weaker
>the last memory is that of Zenn-La, but this brings back Norrin's will and surges his Power Cosmic
it could have been kino
How lacking the fight was makes me think this was just a filler episode they had to shit out to have more time for Bill vs horse show.
Maybe, they did admit they knew of Manhunter vs Piccolo but said "it was too predictable" as if they didn't just premier with Atom vs Ant Man
Did they mean it was "too predictable" as in the outcome or the fight itself?
I believe it was just in the context of the fight itself. Like "green aliens who are strong components of their team" or something. Which again is funny considering Raven vs Phoenix is just "lady with bird avatar". Even MM vs SS didn't have any connections beside "alien"
>Raven can literally destroy the entirety of the Marvel cosmology.
>Also a dude who is verifiably, consistently below the Phoenix just beat a guy who is tiers above Raven.
DC gets mogged by those who wield The Jobber Power. Apocalypse, Surfer, and Ghost Rider are all mighty wielders of it
I mean really, you'd think people would know just how absurd to power level is considering it can be modified or downlright ignored by some of the most absurd circumstances.
Besides, Phoenix is a bit jobby at times, and the Shadow b***h depends on a lot of outside intervention for most of her shit.
Episodes in a vacuum, please understand.
I swear, if they bring up Dr Manhattan, in any MU, and all he does in the animation is shoot fricking lasers at the other guy and fly around, I’m gonna make my own Death Battle in real life.
Can we also agree Manhattan, (one of the most famous characters from MF WATCHMEN), shouldn’t fight a poor man’s version of himself wearing the skin of Tricky Dick from the most mid analog “horror” series that nobody gives a shit about
I will use my powers to-NNNAAAAAAGHH!!!
J'onn hold on! I will assist you with my po-NNNNAAAAAGH!
Professor X vs Martian Manhunter would have been a good joke match.
I would have laughed if in the middle of the epic psychic battle they showed that in the physical world they both are just screaming at each other "take this NAAGGGHHH"
>Wide shot of MM on the ground, writhing in agony while holding his head and yelling
>Xavier in his chair at the opposite end of the scene, digits on his temples as he screams out in pain
>Holds for an uncomfortably long time
>no bgm at all - just the sounds of mental agony
3 mins of just staring at each other. Bonus if they have bystanders looking at them weirdly
>Flash running by in the back ground of the watchtower. Stops to raise an eyebrow at J'onn. Runs off.
>Logan gets a beer out of the mansion fridge. Shrugs at Chuck.
Closest they got was the death threat over Galaxia.
>death threat over Galaxia.
Qrd?
A redditor got mad that galaxia lost. Threatened the cast, and perhaps they were responsible for the copyright strike. Last part is our speculation.
They won't go to texas though.
>won't go to Texas
New Mexico is not that far
>Be me
>Want Sailor Moon to return to Death Battle
>Remembers moron threatened the cast over Beerus/Galaxia
>Toei's b***h ass will probably copyright it
Goddamn being a fan of a specific thing can be a b***h sometimes.
why would you ever want a property you ENJOY (mis)handled by death battle?
>Being mishandled by Death Battle vs being screwed over by Toei
At this point I don't care, I just want Toei to get shit on.
Well, I keep saying how the fight, animation, and verdict don't really matter and that I'm really just down for the research when they find wacky shit in the 50+ year histories of some of these characters. That, and fun KINO shit like He-Man vs Lion-O. But then I get admonished for not giving a shit about le heckin based animations and verdicts and I wonder about everybody here.
You enjoy Sailor Moon? Are you a chick or a troon?
Ending should be a dramatic finisher in the mindscape. Then cut to the real world where loser is foaming at the mouth, having a seizure while the winner getting CPR.
The episode just being 2-3 minutes of them standing there with various over the top back and forth images of them AAAAAGHHHing until one of them unceremoniously falls over would have been kino
Fine then Cinemaphile no wank at all, where do you rank Bill?
Planetary at his very strongest, since that was literally the scope of his powers at the end. Reminder that you could kill Bill by having short term memory loss.
Manhunter gets thrown into the sun and dies,
RRrrrrr what the actual frick is wrong with these people, I really have no hope for Gohan vs Mark or Boros vs Battle Beast at this point, these diversity hires are getting out of control, frick Ben and Chad
these fight animations are just getting fricking lazier and I can't hide how pissed im getting, someone restrain me before I FORCE these lazy frickers to make Cole vs Alex,
>Gohan vs. Mark
>Boros vs. Battle Beast
both of these are insane stomps though, Gohan is obvious and Boros's best feats are fricking ridiculous
Do you guys ever think that Death Battle would ever make a fight that could cause IRL violence?
>These threads are the example of real life violence because of the brain damage caused by morons ramblings
Ben getting whacked in the head at SGC while someone said "That's for Goku!".
Was the guy black or Mexican?
Nobody knows.
Likely if things start to get really really stupid among these power level obsessed people.
Honestly, is a blessing in disguise the show is losing audience as it means few people would care or give credit to that bullcrap of a show.
Only if they did a religious MU between two major gods
And by major religions you mean allah vs the trimurti?
Yeah, if Allah ever somehow shows up on the show expect a beheading to take place
Muslims from texas are sissy, and very effeminate though. And jeets are too, sissy and effeminate.
ISIS themselves will fly a guy out specifically to behead the crew live on DBcast
Obviously, especially if those frickers make DBZ or Bleach lose again, cause they're morons who make no effort to understand scaling and are inconsistent constantly
and have a hate boner for DBZ and Bleach losing
I already developed a relentless hate thanks to this show, a character and a lot of things related to MU debates, yet isn't getting physically aggressive IRL a tad bit too far?
Can't we just simply discredit the idea of MU debates like gentlemen instead?
I'm joking, take it with a grain of salt,
but someone is gonna confront them eventually, they're such fricking pussies and circlejerk on their podcasts and never are transparent, noone understands or knows why they made Ichigo lose in such a moronic way and why they made Vegeta go into SSB instead of SSJ1 2 and then SSG,
they're too elitist and dodgey,
Why does it matter that much how they mash their childhood action figures together? What's really at stake for you?
They never wanna do the matchups everyone asks for,
no-one gives a shit about 2 random characters from a shitty kids cartoon holy shit, im so angry lmao
They literally had:
Gohan vs Mark
Asura vs Kratos
Cole vs Alex
These people are not human, they do not want people to watch their product,
I... what? Uh, are you talking about the next match?
The next match is Bill Cypher vs Discord
speedy,
Voted for by the community, proving you wrong, low iq esl
>Voted by low IQ morons like you who somehow see it as a valid MU
Kratos vs Dante is a moronic of a matchup as Gojo vs Makima
Dante vs Gojo makes moronicly more sense,
Kratos should fight Dante, but not the DMC one.
>Gohan vs Mark
Is probably gonna happen
>Asura vs Kratos
Is dogshit what the hell? Why would you want that? Asura vs Adam and Kratos vs Dante is right there.
>Cole vs Alex
Is happening this season.
>Is dogshit what the hell? Why would you want that? Asura vs Adam and Kratos vs Dante is right there.
Nah your dumb as rocks if you think that's a bad MU, both are god killers and protected their kids from evil gods and have done hardcore shit and are always angry,
Asura stomps but it'll look close,
Imo it should've been Cole v Alex and Gohan vs Mark after,
no reason to have another shitty joke MU equivalent to Spongebob vs Aquaman
The Capeshit we had just now was shitty, and they want to ruin my palate further with Cartoon kid shit
In terms of connections it’s fine, in terms of actual, you know, everything else it’s ass. Please, I would love to see you describe how the fight would go down without purposely lowering Asura’s level.
I just like Adam vs Asura, but Kratos vs Dante has existed since their games came out AND they’re far closer in power, plus their arsenals wouldn’t clash horribly.
>if true
Anon we’ve known about this since last year…
>In terms of connections it’s fine, in terms of actual, you know, everything else it’s ass.
If your saying its a stomp matchup I disagree by alot,
Kratos has many feats that allow him to endure hefty blows and fatal attacks,
Goku Black vs Reverse Flash was a stomp MU and Goku Black still kept up quite well despite being at such a huge disadvantage
No, I’m saying that the way their arsenals work clash like frick. Either you downplay Asura hard in the animation so he doesn’t immediately punt Kratos into the sun on accident, or you pretend that Kratos can fly through space and cleave celestial bodies with his weaponry. The way they fight is too different for either character to show off their real abilities. Adam and Dante don’t have this issue, which is why I think they’re better fights.
and I just said
"hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby" mus
have always still been good fights, like Goku Black vs Reverse Flash or Omni Man vs Homelander
If you played/watched Asuras wrath, you'll know that Asura has fought on ground, like Kratos has lmao, and many Kratogays disagree that he'll struggle and some even think he could beat Asura, and I can see some bias,
this isn't Beyonder vs Gremmy or something,
this are people who fought they're inital opponents on ground level/normal
Yeah, he’s fought on the ground plenty of times…against people who’re as strong or stronger than him. But that’s besides the point, you’d still be limiting his abilities hard if you just had him fight grounded while punching against Kratos’ shield like he’s some average mook. Hell, most sections in his game start with and/or include flying run and gun sections where he’s bombing his enemies, but are you just meant to not allow him to do that because Kratos has no real counter to it?
(Granted, now that I think about it, this is also an issue Adam would face)
And why would you want to keep it confined to Earth? When people hear Asura’s Wrath, they think of giant, planetary explosions and big space battles. That’s like having Batman vs Spider-Man take place entirely within your grandmas kitchen instead of a wide, bustling city.
But your ignoring the fact that this is Death Battle where Thor lost to wonder woman,
and many MUs were stomps and still went the distance
I don’t think you get what I’m saying. My point isn’t
>fight bad because stomp
It’s
>fight bad because you need to accommodate the animation in order to fit one character’s playstyle instead of both
If Kratos is throwing a hundred different items and weapons at Asura and all he can do in return is
>Punch
>Punch harder
>Ki blast carpet bomb
It will look lame, especially since Kratos doesn’t normally use H2H, especially not Endgame Kratos. He’s better fit for someone with more weapons than fingers, that’s what I’m trying to say.
I know what your saying but Goku Black vs Reverse Flash was probably the last decently Animated 2d sprite mu and all Reverse Flash did was run and punch if we're being realistic,
Black has Sword, Blast, Martial arts, Scythe, Time Ring etc..
Kratos is no difference in that regard, unless your aruging that they weakened down Flash in that fight
or just keep it on Earth since most of the boss fights take place on Earth with the exception of Augus, Deus (but it's still confined to a single location and they don't leave to space), and the first phase of the final boss
Exactly, Asura fought Ryu, and didn't send him flying across the solar system
but that fight is not canon so can't be used which is funny since it's the only time in the game where we see him get into space without help, usually he needs a vehicle or being shot up into space by a Toriko styled big explosion
the Augus fight can't be used since we have no idea how they got to the moon unless the text at the start says how and I'm being a dumbass
Well thats too bad, I'm getting tired of swap out MU's because you don't like the MU is a stomp,
they'll make it work, stop trying to ruin it for everyone
You probably meant that for me, but I hope you realize that Kratos vs Asura IS the swap out MU for Kratos. Everyone has always talked about him against Dante.
>Adam
>Dante
Tourist from Reddit confirmed. Go back, homosexual.
>>Cole vs Alex
>Is happening this season.
About time, if true
Cole's the 3rd electric user this season. I wonder if there will be a fourth?
It's more like the fandom wars.
Now let's get the elephant out of the room, fandoms were always often prone to fight with each other, capefans vs weebs, trekkies vs lucas cult and so on. Problem is once the show took off, it became way bigger than what was probably healthy and became such an utter gospel for people obsessed with powerlevels and fandom reputation that it started overtaking a lot of public perception even if its actually from a minority.
The result is that even when you are not precisely interested yourself in said outcomes and would make fan stuff following your own considerations, there's always that guy who will bring the show and its cruel outcome. Either they recommend it to use it even though you don't fricking care (especially if for whatever reason your fanart is supposed about the characters just sharing a fricking milkshake instead of fighting), or would tell you that said character beats that one because "DB says so", and that's not into dwelling about how OP a character is and would always win or how your fav character is a wuss, or if it is true apparently certain characters can destroy rocks with x Newtons despite the fact you cannot even confirm said feat since is not like you even know how heavy or sturdy said rock was, not to mention how the fandom cares so much about blunt force that if you try to argue about concentrated force (AKA, the way a knife or sword works unlike a battle club) they just keep bringing the "multiversal" or "TNT megatons". Heck you could even bring out the fact how a lot of supposedly powerful characters are beaten in stupidly mundane ways and how apparently weaker characters win in pretty improbable ways and yet powerlevel fans are like "but if it were realistic..." and you are "shut up, is not reality, fiction often immitates reality but is still not reality".
I guess is more like tiredness of dealing with people and circular debates.
>make Bleach lose
Multiversal Danny bros, it’s time.
Haven't seen danny phantom in a long time, but wasn't a meteor going to kill everyone on earth? How to frick is danny supposed to be multiversal?
Who the frick does Danny Phantom fight next??? some Bleach character???
Ichigo
Because the moronic takes like this
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Danny_Phantom
>Danny Phantom... Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!
>Give me Danny
>the only kaiju fights to get traction are Ghidorah vs deathwing and destoroyah vs Iris
Um, anti-zillabros… I think they’re going 4-0…
What? the next Death Battle is Bill Cipher against a instant messaging and VoIP social platform?
>BILL HIT THE PENTAGON!!! THEY HIT THE FRICKING PENTAGON!!!!
Who the hell wanted this?
a bunch of people
Before everyone moves onto horse fight, are there any recommendations or must reads for Surfer? I’ve wanted to get into the character for a while.
The Lee/Kirby run of Fantastic Four was lightning in a bottle and the start of Marvel as a coherent story setting. It's something everyone needs to read, not just for Silver Surfer, so read it.
You might be surprised to find that Surfer's origin isn't what you think it is. Norrin's origin is the result of several decades of retcons (in the Roy Thomas sense of inserting extra history and lore into the backstory). The Surfer implied by Kirby is very different from the Surfer we know today. There is no Zenn-La or deal with Galactus. It is implied Galactus created him out of energy. He doesn't regain his humanity by talking with Alicia, he develops it ex nihilo, just as Galactus developed him ex nihilo.
Surfer's origin as we know it formed in the brief Lee/Buscema run, but even then there were gaps, like how Norrin went from promising Shala Bal to only lead Galactus to uninhabited planets to being so feared that his approach caused the Skrulls to black out their solar system and ngaf about feeding Earth to Galactus. The retcon solution to that would be Galactus putting in mental blocks and that came in the Jim Shooter era.
Should you read the Lee/Buscema run? That's hard to say. It's got a lot of Lee moralizing. How much do you like aliens doing the Day the Earth Stood Still thing and lecturing about how awesome Earth would be if we all just got all our shit together? It's a time capsule. It's very much in the groove of hippy dippy Jesus parables. It's Adam Warlock before he was made into Space Elric.
I wouldn't say it's bad, and you should at least check 3 and 4 and maybe 11, but make sure it's your thing.
The Lee version of Silver Surfer is best encapsulated in Silver Surfer: Parable, and I do highly recommend that one. It's worth checking out just for the awesome as hell Moebius art.
All faults about Lee as a writer aside, it is probably his most literate work, and the best articulation of what he believed the Surfer to be.
The 80's/90's DeMatteis/Englehart run is the definitive Surfer. It was running at around the same time as the cartoon, and you should check out the cartoon, it's good and still holds up.
The run covers a lot of Silver Surfer and general Marvel cosmic worldbuilding--Elders of the Universe, other heralds, the fate of Zenn-La, etc. The decision to finally get the Surfer off Earth was a really good one and vastly opened up the kinds of stories they could do with him.
It ran for 146 issues for a good reason. If you just want to read Silver Surfer comics, you don't want to hit the historic highlights or the best-of-the-best recommendations, this is what you read. It's Silver Surfer comfort food. It's good.
Silver Surfer Requiem is the All Star Superman of Silver Surfer comics. Everyone likes it. Everyone recommends it. Everyone's read it. It even has some of the same story beats as All Star Superman. If Marvel gave two shits about animation we'd probably have it as an animated movie by now just like All Star Superman.
Contrarians crawl over themselves in their rush to call it shit because everyone says its good.
But it IS good. And I highly recommend it.
I'm not recommending Silver Surfer vs Dracula because it has what is one example in a long line of Norrin eating shit to telepathic attacks, though in light of Silver Surfer vs Martian Manhunter, it's hilarious to see Norrin NARGHHHHHHHH against nameless, generic cult members who look like they came off the Manos Hands of Fate set.
I'm recommending Silver Surfer vs Dracula because it's pure comic book nonsense. It's wonderfully stupid. It's Silver Surfer vs Dracula. It sounds like it came off vs battle wiki. It's actually titled that, and indeed, Silver Surfer actually fights Dracula.
All the Slott stuff including Silver Surfer Black is fricking cancer and I can't stand it. I hate that he reduced Silver Surfer to Dr. Who fanfiction. I hate how Slott's Norrin acts like a clueless himbo. I hate Dawn what's her face, the obnoxious OC writer waifu. I hate that Slott had the gall to make Dawn's stupid fricking polka dots the in-story explanation for Kirby dots. I hate that Slott turned Shala Bal evil for the sake of shipping his stupid OC with Norrin.I hate that the best he can come up for conflict is to throw lame ass I-can't-believe-it's-not-an-event boss characters at Norrin like Knull, and then try and pass off Norrin being BRIGHT and Knull being DARK as some profound statement on life and the universe.
TO SUM UP:
Silver Surfer Requiem and Silver Surfer Parable are quick ways to get two different takes on Silver Surfer. Highly recommended.
The 80's/90's series is highly recommended.
The Stan/Buscema series is recommended with caveats.
The Lee/Kirby Fantastic Four run is good if you want to see what Surfer COULD have been, but it's not going to give you much of what is commonly associated with Silver Surfer nowadays. Think of it like reading 1940's Superman stories.
Silver Surfer vs Dracula is a quick read and great if you want some comic book zaniness.
Slott Surfer is AIDS.
>Death battle
>turns into a drinking contest
>a rock throwing contest
>a race
>and then another drinking contest
And just because I want to be a petty c**t.
J'onn should have turned into rats. He would have won that way. NO DRACULA STOP DON'T SEND RIZO AND FIVEL TO KILL ME STOP YOU CAN'T DO THIS I HAVE INFINITE POWER AIEEEEEE GALACTUS SAVE MEEEEEE
>Jojo characters in discussion
I can't wait for Kira to be calced at like, City-Block level durability or something because he was still alive after being punted by Star Platinum and Crazy Diamond.
>THERE'S SOMEBODY BEHIND THE CITY LEVEL AMBULANCE YIRE! STOPPU!
Can’t wait for Jojo Ambulance vs the Big Rigs Truck
With Raven while the Spector scaling was indeed moronic. She at least had more shit that you could probably buy for her and other out there scaling. Would it be enough to beat Phoenix? Honestly no clue probably not but it was something.
In order for you to even consider Bill being even remotely close to the wank some fans put him at like 11 Dimensional, you would need to literally ignore everything we've seen of Bill and the context pf these vague statements like the "11D Aliens scared of Bill" dying in a crash...
Also you would have to ask the question of if Bill really was this nigh Omnipotent 11D God.. How the frick was Gravity Falls able to keep him in place?
Not only that but some runes put on a ramshackle mecha could frick him up, and Ford presumably could have OHKOd Bill with that laser gun if he didnt frick up the shot
>I heard this season had a problem with drawing dimes
Real talk: unless you’re just here to watch certain fanboys seethe, is there ANY enjoyment to be had out of modern Death Battle anymore? The analysis sections fail as hype pieces due to lacking clips and audio of the characters speaking, so you don’t get a good grasp of what the character is like until the fight starts, and they’re chock-full of unfunny, overanimated, pozzed humor where Boomstick talks like a teenaged girl on Twitter, while Wiz is basically just RC Cola Rick Sanchez.
As for the animations, they suck because:
>they’re too short
>the scriptwriters are lazy, and aren’t even trying to come up with good reasons as to why the characters wanna kill each other anymore
>the scriptwriters are lazy, and fail to make creative use of most of the characters’ powers, mostly just having the sprites punch each other and shoot lasers like a GBA Dragonball game
>3D animation is so jank it looks like a rejected skibidi toilet short
>all the little flavor bits (the FIGHT shout, the post-battle animations, the music from the characters’ original series) are all gone
>trying to predict the winner is pointless, because it doesn’t follow any sort of normal logic, or even DB’s own internal logic between episodes, being completely inconsistent
And not even the previews for the next fights are good anymore:
>Ben’s ugly mug saying “thanks for watching” for the dozenth time instead of based Boomstick going “NEXT TIME OOON DEATH BATTLE…”
>previews are now only 15 seconds long instead of 30
>generic stock action music instead of music from either characters’ series
>clips are so zoomed-in and covered in color filters that you don’t even know who the frick is onscreen until the names pop up
>half of the time, the next match will be between either two literal-whos, or a well-anticipated character vs literally anyone except the character people actually wanted to see that character fight against
death battle has been shit for 6 years now
i'm just here to discuss battleboarding and dunk on the fights
At this point, we've entered another dark age. I'm just here to shit on the show, its outcomes and its choice of fights, and to express opinions that would get me booted anywhere else.
I like the fights and editing. I only really check out the analyses for characters I care about though. Cole vs Alex will probably be the first time I’ve watched through a full DB video since like, Mickey vs Yoda and Silver vs Trunks.
My guy you are cooking,
you need to be protected,
this is just too fricking true, all of what you just said
I only got here because of Ben vs Hal and was both buttmad over him losing and made fun of him after that. I think these are the only funny interactions to be had in these threads. Shame no one gives a damn about making spite fanart anymore. This was the last one I did.
There's no more juice to squirm from this orange I'm afraid.
>spite fanart
STOP
t. second least pedophilic bencuck
halpedo cope
I hate that that I know the reference,
What is it?
lmaooo, can't say
Why not?
I wish they did Hal vs Adult Ben(Ben 10,000) or against Omniverse Ben cause Adult ben knows magic and is cooler and knows unique omnitrix abilities
just moronic and brutal how the MU ended, and the time traveling bullshit is so gay and lame, reminds me of Flash or some shit
only one version of Adult Ben knows magic and it's the shittiest version of him
To be fair, the past 3 fights have been duds in terms of spice. MM wasn't SS's most requested DC opponent. It was Captain Atom. There's no rivalry or investment in MM vs SS.
I don't read a lot of comics but isn't Captain Atom a guy who is only alive because his suit keeps him alive and if you damage his suit he will go kaboom?
That would make that match a super stomp.
Oh no, he's way more than that. He'd probably beat Surfer if they fought, actually, because of the Quantum Field Universe thing and Superboy Prime scaling. But he's really for Moleculeman, and Moleculeman stomps him.
Molecule Man vs Captain Atom is the ideal, but at this point they'd probably go for Doctor Manhattan vs Molecule Man instead.
For me, it's always been Element Lad vs Molecule Man. Yeah, I know it's a stomp.
Ahem... Guts vs Kirito would've redeemed this season and WHOmitrigays can cope about it.
> Jojokeks we are so winning this seas-ACK!
SIT THE FRICK DOWN.
It's not this guy. The JoJo slot is a star, hinting that it's going to be a bloodline JoJo, not Kira.
Isn't the star is MM Vs Silver Surfer?
yes, also the poem thing also hints at Kira vs Adachi
What poem thing? I didn't kept up with the whole cypher autism theories
No, lol. SS is the wave.
Silver Surfer vs Stitch when?
Stitch is the wave. Misaka is the beaker. Slayer vs Chief 2 is the pentagram
That's not a beaker you moron, that's a contained experiment.
In that case, Killua is the pentagram, and the beaker is 682 vs Doomsday
Where the frick is the beaker you're talking about?
Here's my take on the wheel so far.
What exactly did you think Stitch’s symbol was?and now that I think about it, the suit could also be Killua’s symbol (you know, like an assassin?)
Don't rape the occam's razor please.
Who's bottom next to Vader?
That’s Cole. Specifically Evil Cole.
Yep it's Cole. He's the Yin and Yan, good and evil character.
I thought Stitch vs. Rocket was actually very well animated but it doesn't seem like anyone else thinks that? No one mentions it.
Most of the 2d battles just look like any other mugen fan animations.
Yeah we are done here. Your "Mac rapes" whole premisse came from him fighting DK. Which is a non canon feat.
So pic related, and we are done pretending this is that big of a mismatch, if it's one at all.
DK is canon mate
Shut the FRICK up
>They gave infinite speed to Silver Surfer
>Thor can scale to Silver Surfer
Thorbros, we did it!
Cant stop there. Need to transcend the concept of speed and officially be THE fastest
I still think Andrias vs Belos would be visually more interesting than Anne vs Luz
He's that guy that moved the moon right?
No
>destoroyah vs Iris is doing well
>Ghidorah vs deathwing made it to the finals last time
Chemo vs hedorah bros…
Tiamat vs Ghidorah bros…
Aludin vs Ghidorah bros…
Alduin vs which ghidorah?
I can see the case for Planet Eater Ghidorah, but not so much any of the other ones
>Destoroyah vs Iris is doing well
Huh
I'm 99% sure this is just them wanting an easy win
I mean, Iris only fights for 7 minutes total and has zero feats. Destoroyah fights for half of his movie and has a ton of appearances in other things.
It's not like they're leaving anything out, Iris literally only has one actual appearance period
kaijuhomosexuals are Insecure cowards
Wow that “fight” was actually terrible what the frick.
Actually Silver Surfer is the dollar sign because he's made of silver
>LUFFY CAN'T KEEP UP WITH A CHARACTER WHO'S LIGHT SPEED
UHHHHHHHHHHH
FTL ONE PIECE BROS????????????
I’m waiting for the official scans. I remember hearing Garp soloed the Blackbeard Pirates,I’m not getting fooled again
Why is this a surprise again?
Luffy himself spent so much time running around Kaido's castle. There's no fricking way he's as fast as Naruto who climbed to the top of the Juubi tree in a short time.
>Oda fraudcheck himself
He didn't. He's fraud checking Death Battle and their garbage calcs.
One Piece is a series where instead of going fast, the characters "see the future" (sort of) so they aren't where you attack.
Kizaru can probably do that too though so he has an advantage which Luffy will obviously overcome.
Look at it this way.
If you can dodge a gunshot -on reaction- before the gun is even removed from its holster, then you are effectively FTL as far as battle calculations go. Only problem is that if the other guy can do that and is also faster.
Kratos vs Asura is ass. Asura should fight Beerus. Beerus is the type of person Asura hates.
Exactly
Asura makes more sense for Toriko.
Toriko is the same type of character who gets stronger by screaming loud, and the only one that's somewhat at Asura's level.
Beerus is way too much for the dude.
>Asura vs Fricking Toriko, aka union worker goku
frick off, and let us have our desired MU
My man, Toriko has actual universe level feats, unlike Goku. And good fricking hax too.
I'm pretty sure he thinks asura wins which is why he's recommending beerus vs asura.
Of course. I know their angle.
Having Beerus on DB is a shit idea anyway. We don't know how strong he is exactly.
Recommending matchups just so your favorite character wins is pretty cringe. It's something I've seen a lot lately.
kaijuhomosexuals are the lowest shit
Same. I prefer my character to lose but have a good fight than him winning on a shit match up.
little connections
>Little connections
-Destroyer deities
-Similar combat styles primarily focusing on fisticuffs and rapid energy blasts
-Cosmic powerhouses capable of popping celestial bodies nonchalantly
-Use similar power (mantra and god ki)
-One is a jerk who acts noble but lords his power over others and ruins shit over the slightest annoyance. Also subservient and scared of his settings superior omnipotent deity
-The other is brutish and angry, yet wants to protect people and doesnt lord his power over them. In fact, those who do (like Beerus) are the type of people he despises the most. Also rages so hard he goes after his setting's superior omnipotent deity and beats him to death
Beerus is elitist and loves food and just destroys planets because its his job, Asura is just angry and angry and killed anyone for hurting his daughter
>Just destroys planets because its his job
He does it for the flimsiest of reasons like denizens not kissing his ass hard enough or the food he gets from them is "too greasy" to him. Canonically, Beerus is a terrible Destroyer between tgose antics, never working with his Supreme Kai, and sleeping most of the time
>Just destroys planets because is his job
No, he is psycho tier evil. He destroys planets because he feels like it.
In other verses Bills would be considered as someone who needs to be acked for everyone's good.
>Bills
I'm not a snowflake or anything but iam a DBZgay and but I cannot forgive you for that,
Opinion,
Disregarded
Ok pinche gringo pendejo
lol what?? honestly you sounded so genuine when you said "Bills" I was actually kinda terrified cause that was the mistranslation when BOG came out 9 ish years ago, and people didn't know who that humanoid cat was and how his name was pronounced
Sounds pretentious
Connections were asked for, and connections were provided. They're pretty good ones, at that. Better than MM vs SS, which was "bald", and Misaka vs Killua, which was "electricity".
If those are the best matchups Asura vs beers could best in thematics, then it obvious they both have better (which beerus has already fought)
It's also better than pretty much every fight so far this season, but if you're going to be a disingenuous c**t there's little purpose to further conversation.
> but if you're going to be a disingenuous c**t there's little purpose to further conversation.
>I.E: I can’t handle People hating my shitty matchup 🙁
>giving Dragon Ball another win
>getting Beerus to 2-0
frick no
DBZ has jobbed like 3 times.. I don't want the MU either but your using some insanely unfair dichotomy here
I just don't want Asuras wrath to job
Asura would probably lose to Toriko, but that's a good fricking MU.
Having a good MU is more important than winning. Death Battle is finally understanding that it's important to respect the losers.
I agree but for this Death Battle specifically I want Kratos vs Asura because I want to see Kratos die, every MU you want afterwards they don't need connections,
I will say though, can you post episodes/scenes of Torikio, im curious to see his abilities/feat,
I only saw the DBZ x One Piece crossover with him and they made everyone so weak in the crossover I don't really know what his feats are,
Kratos will kill asura in death battle. Just look at cu vs db. Plus I imagine it'll be a bloody death instead of something respectful.
Kratos vs Doomslayer is better and actually has kratos lose.
>Doomslayer
>Kratos lose
Doomslayer will lose his anal virginity to Master Chad.
Eternal wank and devs saying all WADs are canon is too strong
Honestly, I'd like that. Mostly because compare the lore
>Chief: He punched a hovertank 20 feet
>Doomslayer: Something something dimensions something multiverse something creation
Your moronic, Asura rapes and murders Kratos, it won't be close
enough already with these random moronic MU's
Look at CU vs DB. We're talking about death battle here. Why would they treat asura and kratos any differently?
Plus a v k is a legacy match. Not random at all unlike toriko and beerus who no one is asking for you Black person.
The problem with it is Elder Scrolls and to a far lesser extend Dark Souls has wonky lore they can stretch to their desires. God of War on the other hand has the devs and in game lore directly go "No he isnt even above planet level. Are you fricking moronic?" Even Kratos himself finds the idea of a planetary thing ludicrous
Sorry, but death battle will ignore it for the wank. Swan already pushed chosen undead, who dies to skeletons, to universal level. Kratos will get that same treatment and more. Like they already stated that on-screen shit doesn't matter so fanfic kratos will get in. Delusional to think otherwise.
Your best hope is asura being pushed to omnipotent level because of statements.
I know they will. Just pointing out why its more gross than other similar matchups because Kratos literally has zero support or actual wiggle room to frick with. It would 100% be a fanfiction headcanon version of him on their end. Its extra dumb because if they insist on doing that nonexistent version then they should pit him against Wonder Woman.
Its funny how Asura still wins the maximum wank route as you say via Omnipotent Chakravartin and Infinite Naraka
Frick off you homosexual Ben, we know its you, trying to make this shit unwatchable and appeal to only the lowest denominator of casuals
Thankfully it will never happen.
>I want to see Kratos die
Thats fine and all but there is the possibility they give Kratos the win which is why so many people do not want the fight.
Kratos VS Asura is the ULTIMATE feats vs fanfiction match. By all metrics, common sense, and direct dev quotes, Asura sneezes and kills Kratos. However so many gays (including death battle) screech and insist on Kratos being some multiversal powerhouse. Imagine the episode with their autism. On one hand you have clips of Asura popping supernovas, punching a planet sized guy to death, coin flipping fricking monster elephants, tanking impalement from the moon to earth and walking it off like nothing. On the other hand you have clips of Kratos needing dog sleds to travel, jobbing to impalement by a rock, struggling against bears etc
Then they go "oh lol Kratos wins because myth wank, visuals dont represent lore frick you!"
It'd be especially gross
Kratos would just go through the planet and destroy asura with one hit before saying something snarky and going on his way. The asura Black folk here will throw an absolute b***hfit even though they were warned time and time again.
I can just imagine in the animation kratos jumping through space and tossing constellations at asura even though he doesn't do that at all in gameplay.
And he doesn't have too, because only redditors have this problem where not every series is styled like DBZ and can be above wall level without big explosions in every fight
>Kratos VS Asura is the ULTIMATE feats vs fanfiction match. By all metrics, common sense, and direct dev quotes, Asura sneezes and kills Kratos. However so many gays (including death battle) screech and insist on Kratos being some multiversal powerhouse. Imagine the episode with their autism. On one hand you have clips of Asura popping supernovas, punching a planet sized guy to death, coin flipping fricking monster elephants, tanking impalement from the moon to earth and walking it off like nothing. On the other hand you have clips of Kratos needing dog sleds to travel, jobbing to impalement by a rock, struggling against bears etc
>Then they go "oh lol Kratos wins because myth wank, visuals dont represent lore frick you!"
Yea, and we know that’s what DB will do since we’ve seen the same with ChosenBorn
Honestly, that’s a big reason I want Kratos vs Dante, if they going to prioritize
the LORE, I want them to go all the fricking way, make them both low mutiaverse and MMFTl or whatever, it would be the best shitshow
I gotcha, hope theres no hard feelings, I felt like I was being rude and instigating, im just upset after they stole Guts vs Thorfinn/Samurai Jack from us
so I hate "swapouts" some people haven't lived to see good mu's and have had MU's robbed from them,
plenty of good MU's nevertheless, but they're too moronic to make them, I wish there was a decent alternative to Death Battle,
>On the other hand you have clips of Kratos needing dog sleds to travel, jobbing to impalement by a rock, struggling against bears etc
moronic low ends like this are exactly why DB logic goes the opposite direction out of spite
The best physical feat Kratos has is with Atlas and that involved Kratos b***hing and tricking him lmao
This is how big Toriko's appetite, aka White Demon, is.
>One Piece is FTL. Light is faster in One Piece verse!!!!
That's not even the big cope. Oh no, I wish that was the only cope.
Zoro got punked by Lucci at base.
Of course Lee was robbed. Here's him using his 6 gate to time two FTL characters.
Matchups with this feel?
Most of them really
I can't believe they nerf, my boy, Toriko. That Nail Punch would have turned Goku into Swiss cheese.
Keep reading the manga then. You actually see Toriko sitting at the table with the god of the gourmet universe, taking bites of a galaxy. Fraudku stands no chance against him.
I know. Toriko would EAT Goku.
>Bring me Kirby
I'm STARVED!
Patrick is for Grimace
Grimace is for Barney.
Barney is for Big Bird
Big Bird is for Foghorn Leghorn
Foghorn Leghorn is for Horace Horsecollar
Horace Horsecollar is for Otis.
Otis is for Clarabelle
Clarabelle is for Do Esther
Esther Winchester*
Esther Winchester is for Robo-Cowboy
Robo-Cowboy is for "Night of the Robot" Robot.
Your made up shit is for your ass, anon.
See
I refuse to believe someone created this for another purpose besides shitposting.
they all job to The Milkman
Milkman is for The Farmer.
Do your worst Milkman
>tfw we will never get Taimanin girls vs DOA ninja girls
We should at least get Hitomi vs Mai Shiranui
Did someone say… The Milkman Man?
AAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEE SUPES-Sama, my wife, she's ready! Don't hurt me!!!!!
Is DC shit going to win again?
What like in general? Sure. Its had more losses than wins this season though and that was after coming off a losing streak. It shoukd have lost Raven VS Jean too but Speedy wasted his good boy points there instead of Billcord like how Swan wasted his on Diocard rather than the Skyrim fight
Wtf are you saying?
So I guess we can file Surfer versus J'onn under matches so lopsided even DB can't bullshit a contrarian result
>tfw Chad called asura inconsistent because all of his feats stem from one game.
What is j'onn's equivalent anti-feat to surfer getting beat up by mexican thugs?
Probably would be his anti-feat where h-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I like to point out DS should get island level via scaling to IOS’s storm feat so Doomslayer crushes Chief even without using anything related to Davoth
Honestly, I wouldn’t even mind Slayer/Kratos/Dante multiversal wank, if they actually SHOWED it in the fight animation. Do it like Spongebob vs Aquaman, where Spongebob actually DID cross the universe at quintillions of times lightspeed. That shit is so ridiculous it’s actually fun to watch. Meanwhile, if they’re bragging about how Kratos can destroy the universe in one punch, and the actual fight shows him jogging around like fricking Joel from TLoU, it’s just a waste of time for everybody involved. Show some fricking COMMITMENT. If you’re too scared to show Dante cut a universe in half because it “doesn’t seem faithful to the series”, all that shows is that even THEY don’t believe the shit they’re spouting out.
Yes it should show a universe collapsing every time they speak and move.
>Tfw the god of war games are supposed to be Cinematic so everything happening on screen is planned out ahead of time.
>this is all ignored for fanfic interpretations
How much of a buff is Super Sonic 2 going to be?
Crushes UI Goku
Oh, on God?
Assuming it allows Super Sonic to take out a buffed The End solo then pretty sizable considering The End thought Solaris was a punk
not as big of a buff as the vtuber video gave to regular Super Sonic
So what's the difference between this and Hyper?
they actually will acknowledge this one instead of burying him
Who’s his next opponent?
Its going to Patrick VS Buu or something
Actually, have a nice day for bringing VShitter in these halls.
I’d impregnate all these women and let them get plump through holding my children.
https://omniversal-battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Gawr_Gura
Spongebros, I think we got a little too wienery…
>Spray water on computer
Mating press butterface. sponge is won again.
Why are vtuber schizos like this
Coomerism is a hell of a drug
Gumball
Magic Pencil VS Universal Remote
>opponent
You mean someone to instigate him as spongebob would never willingly hurt someone.
>swan wants joker vs junko enoshima
>one of the worst possible matches of all time and especially for Danganronpa
>Worse than springtrap vs junko
>It'll happen instead of joker vs green goblin
Holy shit it was better when Ben and Chad did all the decisions. Can't believe they're letting the research team handle them. They should have never joined in the first place especially when it was because they got triggered so bad by Mario vs Sonic they decided they would be the ones to "fix" death battle.
Wasn’t it bowser vs ganondorf that triggered them? Anyways autists have bad booking, no shit.
We aren't even sure of the true powerlevel of Spongebob Forma GG (Goofy Goober)
Who's going to be the shuffle/musical themed character?
Could it be that we're going to have a band related match up or is it just another anime character like FLCL?
A Cinemaphile fight would be kino so it clearly wont be that
The Beatles (The Yellow Submarine) Vs The Crescendolls (Interstella 5555: The 5tory of the 5ecret 5tar 5ystem)
I know that it'll never fricking happen, but I think it would be funny.
That's probably Billcord, since shuffle can also mean random. Though since we haven't had a League match this year, it could also be literally shuffle with Twisted Fate vs. Gambit.
>worse than Killsaka
IT’S OVER, BROS
Is it really? Anyone got a comparison point?
To be fair, Killsaka took way longer to reach a million, so Guts vs Dimitri may end up with more views in about a month or so.
What the frick, I should've actually opened that pic instead assuming things. Dude, it just just came out, so have some patience.
It’s at 87K, YouTube just has some shittily slow view updating speed.
Speedy wants Bill to win right? Guess I’m team Pony
ENTER!!!
What is Toriko like? Reminds me of Goku?
He's a lot more like Luffy.
Imagine Luffy but well written.
>B-BBUT LUFFY IS ALREADY A WELL CHARACTER
Imagine Luffy but terribly written
A mix between Goku and Luffy. That is it.
he wants to feed everyone in the world and eat God (who is a frog)
Remember when Toei shilled this as the next big thing then dropped it like hell when the author had a pedo outing
His series is dull as shit, too. Good riddance. Fairy Tail level garbage. He should fight Natsu, for funsies.
That pedo outing happened almost a decade before Toriko. Toei and Jump shilling is due to Toriko's writer being friends with Oda.
Why is Oda friends with so many pedos?
Even Oda's mentor was a pedo.
Kishimoto is a pedo?
We'll see if we're safe.
Also, migrate.
So Bill loses right?