Next fight is Bill Cipher (Gravity Falls) vs Discord (MLP) on Sept 11.
Fight:
https://streamable.com/b29qhs
Speedy's catamite, ultraguy, ardently defends him on vsbattlewiki.
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Episode was based because mlp lost
What a trash series and fanbase
But they didn't. Discord saved their universe. You lost, chuddy.
discord did save their universe and outsmart bill, i'd say he won honestly
I wonder how much Deathbattle and the audience still want a rematch of Doomguy vs Chief. Have people decided that they want them to fight different people instead? In the discord, somebody submitted Chef vs Shepard for the Champion's ballot, but nobody submitted Chief vs Slayer.
At this point, only Doomgays want the rematch.
Halogays are so beaten by 343 at this point that they're numb to anything resembling modern Halo.
I think most of it comes from the fact that they used Slayer in the thumbnail, but only used Guy’s feats because the video came out before 2016 and Eternal. People felt clickbaited, so now they want an updated match that more accurately represents said thumbnail
Bro, they updated the thumbnail. It wasn’t the OG one when it was previously uploaded.
>People felt clickbaited,
How low IQ do you need to be to get “clickbaited” by a thumbnail change? Even the title says “DoomGUY”. I think the actual issue is that people are still booty blasted over Halo Man killing le rip and tear xd man.
It IS clickbait. If anything, they updated it to turn it INTO clickbait. Why use Slayer, if you know the video contains absolutely NONE of Slayer’s feats? Imagine if they updated the old Goku vs Superman’s thumbnail to pic related, even though the fight was exactly the same. How would that NOT be clickbait?
>Why use Slayer, if you know the video contains absolutely NONE of Slayer’s feats?
Because it’s the most recent rendition of Doomie, and most casuals don’t even know the difference between the two. You think Ben was rubbing his hands together and going “ohohoho, I can’t WAIT to clickbait this 10 year old video” when he changed it?
It’d be clickbait if he also changed the title name to say Doom SLAYER, but this is just a litmus test to see if someone’s smart enough to read a single sentence before getting upset, and I’m sorry to say that you failed.
Anon, I'm going to be honest, I think he's right
Doomguy and Doomslayer are the same anyways
>Doomguy and Doomslayer are the same anyways
Tell that to him, not me. I’m saying that the thumbnail change is barely clickbait since no one treats them as different characters, and they kept the title the same regardless. You’re effectively agreeing with me.
>can’t actually defend his point
>uses an extreme “whataboutism” to try and get the high ground
>tops it off with le smug animoo girl reaction image
Everything I hate in a moron all balled up into one. If they’re the same then it doesn’t matter in the first place. It’s using the most recent rendition of the character while staying true to who’s being used.
>Okay, so changing GvS’s thumbnail to MUI vs P1M also isn’t clickbait, as long as the title still says “Goku vs Superman”?
No, that WOULD be clickbait because Super wasn’t even mentioned in that fight, and One Milly Billy boy isn’t the main version of Superman. Your strawman doesn’t even make sense in this scenario since GvS2 DID use Super Goku and an updated version of Nu52 Clark.
All of this being said, even if you want to consider it as CB, how many people do you think got baited by the thumbnail change when that happened years AFTER the fight was big.
Okay, so changing GvS’s thumbnail to MUI vs P1M also isn’t clickbait, as long as the title still says “Goku vs Superman”? The update used the wrong character for the thumbnail, plain and simple.
What the FRICK can Chief even do anymore? Unless the fight boils down to Cortana fighting Vega, Chief just gets turned into tomato soup.
Chief has lots of ways to kill him. All forerunner weapons would obliterate Slayer, and a lot of the other power weapons would definitely hurt him.
Will it be in the final season?
I hope Lucy loses and his wankers cry
Beyonder is for none other than Hal Jordan
Lucifer is a meme and his best match got extinguished by a mid goth girl
how can Lucy be such a b***h
insane how high up redditards have him enshrined, even vsbw rates him more fairly
although they still have bs there, like him traveling back in time with help to change the future being LIMITED CAUSALITY MANIPULATION
>muh redditards
You need to go back
>t. lucygay
t. mindbroken gayborn moron homosexual
Reply in 3, 2...
>can't even use the t correctly
Lucysisters I SAID BRING OUR A-GAME!
>mindbroken reply
Not the last, either.
funny words coming from the man who called himself "mindbroken gayborn moron homosexual"
>doesn't understand the quote function or how t. works
>trying this hard to become the new listtroon
You really do need to go back, gayborn.
the t without a quote is self descriptive, tourist
back to your plebbit, self described "mindbroken gayborn moron homosexual"
Normalgays have no idea who Beyonder is.
Wasn’t he in Moon Girl I think
Have you seen the version of Lucifer normies know man? It's something else
Some MIGHT recognize him from stas
Fun fact, Lucy is canonically the most powerful being in DC since he's the GEB who existed before the Overvoid.
If he's the most powerful dude in DC then Marvel is winning the war
That can't be the case, GEB is as old as the Presence and Lucifer was 1/2 of the Presence's powers which the latter can make and unmake at his leisure
GEB was using the form of various "dark" characters to speak to Constantine, including Trigon and Upside Downsyndrome Man. I don't think it's actually supposed to be Lucifer.
There's a panel from a Lucifer run where all of his "aspects" are present and one of them is a gigantic necrotic hand, which the author said was the GEB on Twitter. You know how it is with Twitter
the same author who got tricked by redditors into saying universe and multiverse is the same thing so they could wank Lucy?
>GEB is as old as the Presence and Lucifer was 1/2 of the Presence's powers
That was all Retconned.
Lucy = Presence/Source/Overvoid in power
But Lucy existed before it
It's time to solo
I thought the presence gets cucked all the time in DC though.
supposedly phenomena in coie was outside his purview and his place was thwarted by a pair of dipshit titans who altered the collective consciousness
>I thought the presence gets cucked all the time in DC though.
That's what happens when you have LGBTQ activist who can't stand a God Father.
Even Marvel's God jobbed to Thanos
>Even Marvel's God jobbed to Thanos
TOAA jobs to everyone. Even this week he jobbed to Mother Horror.
Frick am I reading
Is this some feminist self insert
No, THIS will be
Mega:
https://mega.nz/folder/zc4gBIQL#NrVixNe99LJ0KkQQVqMwmg
Who was in the wrong?
Butcher is a solid gold character stuck in a liquid shit comic.
Stain was disappointing after all the hype.
Tom King.
>dude rapedog lmao
Bucher is just as shit as everything else in that book
trans btw
>Stain was disappointing after all the hype.
Even in-universe he's overhyped
>implied to have some sort of aura of influence that's like the polar opposite of All Might's
>Able to intimidate even Endeavor into freezing up
>Essentially never gets in an important fight again.
Speedy, Ultraguy, Swan, Djtiki, Louxi, who else is there?
> No prediction blog
> No Q&A
> Because everyone is.... toxic and Sneedy and shitting his pants
> Researchers team protects him
> the entire trooncord protects him
> you will get shamed and maybe kicked for publicly disagreeing with research and the result
Modern Death Battle, run by trannies, autistic morons, hacks and all other subhumans and such.
We need Stuttering Craig and the old crew back
Craig would probably have caused 2 people to kill themselves by now
We also need that one dude who ran OMM back
>>the entire trooncord protects him
Nah, most were shitting on the result, and still are. Even the guys at vswiki were calling it out.
The absolute persecution complex of bronies lmao
But the Billgay is the one crying about "muh toxicity" and cancelling everything kek
Pretty much.
So yeah, feel free to agree or disagree with the outcome. And once you do make a drinking game, if someone gets mad at your opinion take a sip, if the guy writes you something on the lines of "kys" take two sips.
>strunt says he doesn't like troons
>gets axed
>speedy says Black person
>gets hired
just like the hobby at large. look how heated people get over nothing
>Trooncord protects him
Most of them were calling out his shit so he threw a b***h fit
Is it Kino
No
I hope these autistic fricks lose there jobs after rooster teeth fricking implodes.
I still say it’s the best Homelander fight
Darkseid is a pathetic weakling.
He'll send a nail bomb packaged inside a cum jar. Everyone else caught the cum jar reference in the episode, right? Or am I going crazy?
Truly we live in a society.
Nah. Not unlike a rogue planet, they will continue to exist without a studio to orbit around.
did that guy on vsbw forums just call speedy a b***h
What?
Please give link.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/death-battle-season-ten-discussion-thread-1-all-time-death-battle-spoilers-alert.151487/post-6025818
>Capeworld's Otto lives there and basically started the Imposter thing so his style rubbed on those threads, tho they still have unfiltered Cinemaphile as well so its that too. Generally they seem to hate modern research and tbh looking how DB treats lasers I get it so they hated the old Strunton and Swan as a result of it, even Lousy got shit on during HerculesWuKong. Tho they also do try to dig up dirt on researchers so I think Swan's old theater videos were hated too. Speedy got his "waifu to beat entirety of Marvel except TOAA" and especially since they did remember Speedy's prior blog having Raven beat there too, that just made things worse.
>Or maybe its fun to make fun of people. People suck and Cinemaphile is unfiltered people :V
Man they still mention Otto
Otto is their Freddy Krueger.
He is truly the Great Satan of Death Battle, a fricking school teacher from bumfrick Louisiana
A brown israeli teacher at that.
>Louisiana
just gets worse with every word
>Otto started the imposter thing
Lol he didn't start shit. He just posted about it on website and just kept writing about it when he was threatened with a lawsuit and not the supposedly fake speedy.
Otto didn't even start it, he just posted about it. The screen grab is 100 percent real. DJ Tiki is Speedy's house Black person.
That furry Black person had the money to hire a lawyer and chose to spend it on otto instead of the guy who called him a Black person and his friend a horsefricker.
How charismatic is Speedy to have everyone willing to take a bullet for him?
Everyone knows that fatties give killer head. I’d support him too if I got half the blowjob he gave the entire team.
He just has reputation by being a member of the team. He has no social skills otherwise. In fact it was because of that screenshot that I became aware of his existence. I don't recall him being a member of the original research team so I don't see why anyone would have bad blood with him to impersonate him. He is just a random as far as I'm concerned.
Frick confused Keith wirh Speedy. Kek
>imposter speedy tried to sue otto for posting those screenshots
Yeah don't believe it boy. Nobody would waste that much time impersonating a dude who wasn't even known by Cinemaphile until otto/his disciples mentioned his existence. In fact I had no idea who swan was until /dbg/ mentioned him.
I don't see anyone calling Speedy a b***h.
Yes they should explain their dog shit conclusion better you fricking moron
lmao they've started arguing amongst themselves
>It's bad here
They're getting roasted, aren't they?
They would not survive the old mvc days.
That post is from the same zoomoid homosexual that cheered on someone being banned for saying Bridget being made a troony was stupid and unironically thinks Toohoo characters are infinite multiversal
Stumbled upon Xir's twitter once and saw xer whining about Pizza Tower being "antisemitic"
As a 2hugay myself I absolutely detest what vsbw's doing to that series which is getting people who have interacted with the source material for exactly zero seconds to believe that they're immeasurable speed and a gorillion times homieversal. These homosexuals are so deluded that they think since humans are stronger than most fairies and said fairies have some kind of arbitrary nonsense infinite speed feat that a completely regular human from the village would solo all of Baki or some shit
Pic related, some troony made an over 100 page long document over why Touhou is strong or something
>touhou infinite speed
>when marisa master spark is light speed
>and said nothing was faster than the speed of light
>except yorihime (who the author said she can curbstomp everyone from gensokyo)
>no scaling unless it comes from those above yorihime
NO STOP YOU'RE MAKING TOO MUCH SENSE
Bowser created an infinite stairway. Yet vsbw places him as galaxy level....
You can ya-ya-ya-ya-ya-ya-ya-yahoo up those stairs if you're fast enough. It's very basic spatial manipulation rather than conceptual space warping. Mario's inertial manipulation is the truly galaxy tier threat.
It's not yayayayayaya
It's more like yayayayyyyyyy
Gensokyo is pretty small. The only destructive feat of worth was flandre blowing up a meteor. But that can't be scaled since it was done through flandre's power.
No chud, Marisa's an idiot so she's achksually faster than INFINITY she's just too dumb to realize it!!
Cope, seethe, dilate, and have a nice day in that order "mad dog" you insufferable troon. Those heckin' racist 4chinners you hate so much that only jack off to e-girl porn have more "media literacy" than the entirety of your site.
If DB buys into this shit especially nowadays with their whole "lore" scaling. I want them to stay away from the franchise.
A bit too late. For a long time I wanted said show away from characters I like. But I appreciate your optimism.
You're right. Especially with the their discord propping up shit matches involving Ibaraki, Rika, etc..
Is even fricked up when a victory is merely a relief, a defeat is anger, and a true triumph is not participating to begin with.
"unpaid work"
Brother, you are watching cartoons and anime, playing video games, and reading comics and manga for a living. And then you do some half-assed calculations that have no basis in reality because you were all C students in high school physics and math and didn't fricking understand air resistance, or friction, or significant digits, or why you always go with the most conservative estimate. You don't even have to go in front of a camera. You are doing stuff that they could pay a high schooler for. They could probably do it better too, since they actually have to fricking cite sources and defend their work instead of stealing shit from others. b***h, shut up.
The fact that people got paid to write that conclusion is hilarious. Makes no sense and filled with contradictions, but when can you expect when majority of the research team were rooting to Bill.
It’s not even that bad on vs wiki compared to here. Most of it is just “It’s good but the explanation is shit” and acting like it’s the most toxic shit ever.
Stain is so weird cause he's super central to the story in MHA and a lot of powerful villains were spurred on by him but he himself barely got to do shit before the was written out, and he didn't even fight during his second appearance.
It's weird how little a lot of the more visible characters in MHA actually do. Froppy for example. And Bakugo is like the most cucked shounen rival ever. Barely even gets his own fights.
Poor Bakugo. I think his matchups are the RWBY girl and ironically enough Raphael outside of Shinra
Fight was fun. Cole vs Alex is gonna bomb in views because they haven't been relevant in years.
As long as it’s good, I honestly couldn't care less about the views. It’s not like either series has any other MU’s other than Delsin vs Korra/Kevin, but those are more or less pipe dreams for me.
I love that vs wiki are just claiming that they made up powers for bill
Is it the dream soul stuff that everyone here b***hed about making no sense or something else?
That's because they did.
Yeah but they make shit up all the time
Like th previously mentioned CAUSALITY MANIPULATION for Lucifer despite it just being the effect of his externally assisted time travel
They kind of did to be fair.
Also Damn VSwiki gays are weak as frick.
>Disagreeing is being toxic.
These guys would kill themselves if they saw the word Black person. Holy shit.
Speedy said that word and he is still alive.
Tbf to those vs wiki gays if they told the researchers they were Black folk and should never do this shit again they would be banned
A bit difficult to speak your mouth when you're aren't anonymous I see.
Lol
Yeah pretty much. Honestly the season has been feeling like you have to walk eggshells around these fricking researchers man. And somehow criticizing the Research is somehow an attack on their character?
>Bill is more powerful
>Why?
>Uh—um, he just is. No QA blog btw either.
Does Sneedy really?
>Nah bro this blog that’s not at all affiliated with death battle will totally explain it in a reasonable way and not wank Bill it’s 100% real og
You don't get it, Bill is stronger because he's given a label despite the fact that Discord is shown to have better feats.
We truly have mind broken Speedy and anyone affiliated with him (discord, G1, etc). Wonder what's Strunt up to.
Living in peace, free from the trannies.
A better end
Especially with all the crazy stuff I keep hearing
Any other Death Battles where the loser managed to screw over the winner in the end?
I guess Eggman vs Wily.
That was a case where everyone lost.
It depends if the Age of Dark is actually a bad thing (Gwyn caused a lot of problems to begin with by fighting nature), and the Dragonborn is the Dark Lord by default.
All Might
Basically any fight where a hero has to kill
Superman vs Goku 1 technically
Guts vs Dimitri because Dimitri has to fight the flood things
>A bit difficult to speak your mouth when you're aren't anonymous
GOOOOOD MORNING SIR!
It's actually night time here.
Theorically speaking Starscream could still posses anyone he wishes to. He's actually far more dangerous dead than alive.
Jon Talbain having his guts torn out
Wasn't Dragonborn fricked up at the end of the fight?
I just hope that the animation is good. While Bill vs Discord's verdict was controversial, I can't deny and say the animation wasn't damn good like really good. This was basically Dio vs Alucard 2.0 for a lot of people.
Hopefully Cole v Alex being the 3D winner of the poll means they'll put more love into it cause I really hope this fight is good. I love Infamous and Prototype and I hope Cole and Alex get a good episode. let's face it, it's not like they'll have any new games coming out anyway so this Death Battle will be the only time they'll get any love for about... probably ever...
Hey now, infamous could get a remake one of these days
The DEATH BATTLE curse will make Bill Gates want a remaster of the Prototype series, and Sucker Punch is going to make an ancient prequel to inFamous with Lightning conquistadors. Trust the plan.
Bill announces Prototype reke and Infamous series gets ported to Epic Store. In all seriousness though, I hope this turns out even better than Bill cs Discord's fight.
I played through both Prototype games, not a bad series, but the second game could've had a better ending,
Shame there was never a 3rd game
Bill is only 5D according to this random redditor
GG Bill, I guess
I wonder how Adam Sandler would feel about reading this nonsense, does he have a Fiverr or something
>omnipotent
>lost
uhuh
>he did all of this ambiguous shit with god knows what powers and at 10,000 spatial dimensions (?)
THIS is battle boarding nowadays
this was boarding 4 years ago
it's worse now
>Bill
>extend across five planes of existence
When did he do that?
I recognize this SCP wanking homosexual
>Tfw saw unironic posts from someone who wants to kill themselves over the newest episode on yate’s discord
What the frick how do you get THIS invested in fanfic battle.
>That reminds me of a YouTuber you said one of his high points in life was watching a season finale with his friends on discord
Fanfiction man
Which youtuber and which season lol
S8 but you have to guess the person lmao
It was purple ragna wasn’t it
In a way Ragna Because now Terumi knows about the existence of Sol badguy in that particular timeline
Btw, if you are going to use a MHA vs The Boys Matchup, at least use the good one
A Train solos because Tenya is in a happy couple
Unironically based. It’s funny how Tenya gets speedblitzed to shit though.
Poor Iida. The west wins yet again.
Butcher vs Stain is the good one though, anon.
It’s not. Bad connections, worse animation potential, and Billy has Mf Frank Castle instead
Frank/Punisher is for Kiritsugu Emiya, specifically how he is in Fate/Zero.
How the frick would any Emiya lose to Frank outside of death itself being on his side? Kerry, Shirou and the Redman would rape him to death. The Redman specifically being downplayed by WoG despite amazing feats.
Depends if Death Battle gives Frank all his shit over the years, even in obscure comics and one offs. Specifically talking about Kiritsugu here.
The connections are great, though. The hero killers that hunt and ambush heroes because they view the heroes as being morally deficient, stemming from a traumatic personal encounter with a hero which led them into obsession and madness. A man that had to take a chemical for his powers fighting an opponent with an inborn genetically inherent powers, special forces military vs crazed vigilante, and one that hates the foremost hero of the world and one that loves the foremost hero of the world. Origin stories are pretty similar, they have similar motivations for what they do, their arcs are surprisingly similar in they find people that they're willing to say meet their standards, the only thing to get caught on is that their powers aren't exactly the same but fights based on "same power" are pretty boring most of the time. Animation potential is about as good as any, I can't really see how or why you'd think otherwise. Frank Castle is better off fighting Judge Dredd anyways.
Does Iida even count as a speedster? I feel like speedsters should actually be able to RUN fast, not just use their biological jetboots to jump really far.
Originally he was just kind of a dude who got a huge temporary physical boost.
But then at some point Deku said he had become faster than Gran Torino, who is the closest thing to an actual speedster in MHA.
...But a recent chapter showed he has to essentially go all out of frick up his body just to break the sound barrier. Which makes really slow for a speedster.
Does Chosen Undead technically count? Like he linked the fire last second for one last ditch effort but instead of fricking over Dragonborn over he fricked everyone
>Everyone use to tell me TOAA and The Prescence where Omnipotent
>They are now jobbers
What the frick happened in the 10s and 20s?
bad writing
editors MiA
Power Creep
Every motherfricker wanting to leave their mark on a megafranchise.
From what I remember Jim Starlin pretty much implied Thanos had TOAA's power in his hands in the early 2000s, but no one really bought it.
But the fact that he had Thanos in no uncertain terms absorb TOAA in that newer graphic novel series makes people realize he probably meant it back then too.
Is there anyone more annoyingly wanked in Marvel than Thanos and Doom?
In Marvel? No, it's pretty much those two.
Thanos is the poochie of comics
I would agree that he was Jim Starlin's Poochie for sure.
But Cates has apparently bought into it, if you've read Thanos Wins.
That's the sad part
He's a poochie who stuck around
All the lgbt/POC characters from nu-marvel. They are le hecking strong, le hecking intelligent, le hecking cool.
Spider-Man before the writers starting hating him. Not power level wise, but more that they kept saying he would be the greatest hero, has the most clones (and not just literally), ect...
shit writing unironically
I'm pretty sure the hardest of omnipotence with "no takesies backsies" would be something like IS and IS NOT which are the sum totalities of anything that ever was, is, and ever could be with no if's ands or buts about it and until comics start really pulling that shit with no "uhmmm but there's a MORE omnipotent omnipotence above that" there's always gonna be power creep
the trick to writing a character and having him remain omnipotent at least in your verse is just making sure he barely does anything
So who actually wins? I hope it'd be Butcher
I've ignored the MU forever and a day but unless Stain has something in his pocket Butcher wins given in the comics he is Homelander tier or just below but without the gimmick powers like flight and laser vision.
The Boys really aren't all that weak, just out numbered.
>Comic Butcher
Unclear. He has a pretty good case of having O type blood which minimizes Stain's quirk. The compound also gives him some crazy strength and he is willing to do underhanded shit. Stain probably gets it due to durability or something though and not really needing too much to frick Bill up even if his quirk is minimized.
>Show Butcher
Butcher stomps
>He has a pretty good case of having O type blood which minimizes Stain's quirk.
To be fair that only really mattered because he was fighting multiple people. Against one guy he only needs a couple of seconds anyways so it's still a wincon.
The issue is if he can get the blood in the first place.
In the comics Billy is small building at best, in the TV series with Temp-V he is much stronger and goes up to around City Block. Stain should be around city block as well thanks to scaling. For speed they're fairly comparable as well so it goes down to hax which Stain has better over all.
If you destroy the universe, the le 11th dimension is gone as well.
VNs/DC/Marvel dimensional scaling comes from characters ascending to a higher level of existence. Is often labeled as le hecking 4th etc dimension(s) because they are easier to explain to readers.
How many spots do we have left? Because with Cole vs Alex, Rick vs Doc, and Light vs Columbo all confirmed this season, I don’t think we have much room left for speculation.
The other two aren’t confirmed. They’re just Easter eggs as of now, unless you think that Sans undertale and Spider-Man are also showing up.
Yeah, Cuphead and Bendy also showed up as Easter eggs too. I wouldn't count those as confirmations either.
Damn they grew balls
What is their actual answer though?
>Haha isn't this valid perspective RIDICULOUS??"
The worst part is that it would have been valid...in a non-pretentious "no research just narrative" situation, except that's not what their show advertises.
They don’t. This guy moronic excuse is that “This fan blog explains why Bill wins” even tho the vs wiki gays explain why it’s wrong he went “it’s toxic here and I don’t want to be here anymore”
This person is actually moronic
It really is difficult to have a neutral party go over characters objectively huh? Pretty show most fans of the media they wank would call them fricking morons. Shit like 11d Bill and universe buster Chosen Undead is laughable.
You can like things while still remaining objective.
I like Devil May Cry, but I can acknowledge that Dante's best feats are far FAR beneath the statements he gets.
The rainstorm feat? Practically a statue compared to how fast a Fury is stated to be, even if you included Quicksilver style.
How to get b& from VSBW & DB any% speedrun
>unpaid work
Explaining the power of a cartoon triangle isn't "unpaid work", these fricking LOSERS
Also, the youtube channel is actually monetized, so it really is not an unpaid job.
Yeah but they have to take time to explain it further in a blog without any financial motive wow the amount of work they do is insane
Yeah.
To be fair, no matter how big and small it is, we always get the feeling we have a thankless job once a while.
The deal breaker however is that they tend to act in a rather conceited manner. As in they want to avoid negativity, yet they are lousy at wording and don't even bother to at least have a Public relationships man or woman.
It’s so dumb when they start to revive criticism and start to backpedal. You are the sole reason on who wins an episode of course they’re gonna ducking complain. Who else are they going to say it too?
I wouldn't binge media every 3 weeks for the sole purpose of powerscaling even if it was paid. It's like a game journalist's job but way worse.
I mean at least with game journos you get to play vidya
>Get paid to literally play games, watch shows, and take notes
>“Bro…I can’t do it bro…it’s too hard bro…”
The frickers researching Cole and Alex had the easiest jobs of the entire season. It’s only a challenge if you get the short end of the stick and have to sit play all of the Legends comics or Skyrim interviews.
When its something like that with only two games worth of material sure, but I can't imagine reading comic after comic and watching show after show. They do it to themselves by insisting on using capeshit so often.
I used to do it all the time for free.
I would be afraid how it would affect my perception of media. Instead of watching shows or reading books for entertainment, trying to enjoy them for their stories, I'd bee picking apart the smallest details for feats and scaling and nonsense like that.
The Speedo cries out in pain as he attacks you.
>I proceed to leak his discord messages
It's cute how people think I was the one who got ahold of Keith's DMs through my leet hacking skills. They were posted everywhere, I just talked about them.
you want to see the fricker get slaughtered by 21 dimensional scaling or logically infinite multiversal+a frick ton scaling
Marshal Law vs. Stain would be cooler.
More similar level of power through scaling, more comparable kill counts.
The brutal hero hunter from an edgy comic book only has one true opponent.
which one are you referring to
I'm too sick to even debate. Help meeee
Get some alcohol. That might help.
So if time is the 4th dimension, any character with time-related powers (time travel, timestop, time skipping, etc.) must be 4-dimensional. Which means, by the laws of dimensional tiering, any 4D timechad character completely no-diffs any 3D plebshit character who is incapable of time travel.
TL;DR: DIO beats World-Breaker Hulk
4D in nu-battleboarding circles is Infinite 3D + Time. So Dragon Ball characters by the Tournament of Power or any timeline buster.
>Dragon Ball characters by the Tournament of Power
I remember when VSBattle give characters infinite speed stats if they moved during stop time or in places that didn't have time, but then changed that rule when the Tournament of Power happened.
Don't they still do that here and there? At least it auto gives you mftl+
Yep they have a specific rule that timeless voids don't count as infinite speed.
I am a brainlet, but is there a reason why people keep on saying that the 4-dimension is time?
Because shouldn't the 4-dimension just be a different direction in space that we just can't point to because we're from the 3-dimension? Like if 2-D scientists try to come up with a theory of what the 3-dimension would be, they would theorizing time because they can't comprehend a different direction then what's in their own space.
They're moronic, and sometimes in fiction the fourth dimension is time, but sometimes it's not, and under current models of physics its not.
2D beings are just us, and we are 4D beings and so on. Dimensions are just aspects of the universe. The hypothetical 11D is too.
Brainlets (no offense first guy)
Space and time are two different axes on the same plane; hence “spacetime”. Objects with more mass (i.e. taking up more space) will have higher gravity, which warps spacetime around it, thus altering your perception of time. It’s why if you entered a black hole, from an outsider’s perspective, you would disappear instantly, but from your perspective, death would take an eternity.
and you speak from experience huh? you've been there tough guy?
not him but im going there next week to visit my uncle frank
How does one buy land in a black hole?
gotta talk to nasa or some shit
will this really be the straw that breaks the camel's back of death battle fans calling out this nonsense?
I think for the people in the Reddit and vs wiki kinda? I think there gonna like the episode but the explanation will be so ass that both sites don’t even agree with the research lmao
people on reddit are disputing the results? Good.
any specific examples?
>Cinemaphile malding hard as frick
>/mlp/ just going "huh, that was pretty neat" and moving on
Damn, have I been posting on the wrong board this whole time?
Gravity Falls fans know Bill is overhyped, that's why.
Not all the post there were chill tho.
But yeah, one still wonders why people seems to be addicted to be angry.
Gravity Falls was one of my favorite shows as a kid but I hate Bill wank so much.
because Cinemaphile knows the characters and find the wank utterly moronic. Same can be applied to other mediums.
Like, I love Devil May Cry and Dante is a fun character, but if someone told me the guy can slice a planet in half I'd ask what the frick they were smoking.
The shit they gave Bill was nonsense to anyone familiar with the show which is kind of sad considering Bill is pretty powerful in his own right
look at the vsbw entry for dante and weep like I did
They're insecure
They don't actually believe their own views, but its easier to just simply double down. They never had a real conviction anyway.
Most of /mlp/ don't like Discord that much and frankly the ending he got is unironically better than anything the show did with him since his first appearance.
That's debatable.
Though the final battle of S9 was overall quite dissapointing for some so the ones that still dislike what happened there chalk it down more to bad writers rather than bad character.
Not that it matters since essentially it seems DB is now slowly consuming itself.
>Most of /mlp/ don't like Discord that much and frankly the ending he got is unironically better than anything the show did with him since his first appearance.
Imagine being a Discordgay and getting shit on ever since S2E02 turned him back to stone and the show jumped the shark by the time he returned. Then G5 comics won't even let him die because IDW has to wank him. Him getting the short stick yet again is old turkey for his fans by this point, but this incident accelerating the implosion of DB is quite entertaining to watch. And we got a catchy soundtrack out of it, too. Oh, the discord going on in their shitty Discord because of Discord.
t. a Discordgay ^:)
>Just watched the fight
Did they really pull a Raven vs Phoenix again? Did they just ignore that everything Bill is is powered by chaos, and Discord is a literal chaos god? Can we go back to x of tnt, because at least then they didn't use fanfiction from a forum as a basis for their bullshit.
Most of the board didn't care to begin with. Those that were thought the fight looked cool, but the outcome was bullshit. We're too horny to get mad this.
They said because Bill gains power from the weird armageddon thing, it cancels out. Even though he need outside assistance to even activate it. The outcome is bullshit and they're too much of a pussy to do a QnA about it to defend their choices.
>it cancels out.
... How? Weridmageddon isn't a power up for him, it's just his power infecting a different realm to the fullest. Meanwhile Discord just a power up from two cartoon horses arguing over which ice cream taste better. Discord would be ultimate in weridmageddon.
Ford says that Bill was growing stronger because of Weirdmageddon
Ford never messed with a full powered Bill until weridmageddon, only a restrained one. Of course Bill seemed stronger than before.
Reminder that Kyle vs Simon is coming in the season finale to save this kusoseason
>what symbol
The crossing arrows, representing convergent evolution to a single drill tip
>b-but they lost the poll!
And? The whole theme of Gurren Lagann is “doing the impossible”. So what if Billcord took their spot? They’ll come in time to save this show anyway, no matter how many rules they need to break to get here.
based
do NOT believe in death battle researcher propaganda! the true winner is who you want to win!
So uhhhhhh...
*cough cough*...
Is MLP worth watching?
The orange cowboy chick is hot as frick, so yeah
I mean it was good enough to get such a massive fan base. Even if it's not perfect it probably has some redeeming qualities.
Plus, once again we are kinda skirming over it won by popular vote this MU. At this point it'll be like the time everybody said disco was dead, but in turn while disco is just now a respectable genre merely with its niche, now the backlash is the one that receives the backlash.
FiM? Yeah sure. Despite the infamy around here the show itself is enjoyable enough
Stop at season 2 and you're good
For a normal, enjoyable watch, watch up to Season 2's finale. If you really enjoy the characters, watch up to Season 5. Don't go any further than that.
Yes. Not without its flaws though. GlimGlam is best pony.
He was fricking pissed off either way, judging by the "disassemble your molecules" shout, so it really is inexcusable how badly he botched the chase. Bill comes across as getting sloppy with his powers when he gets pissed off or scared.
>spoiler
Based
My Black folk. People should have seen the light by the final seasons but they were stuck in their ways.
More like Bill comes across as not really being much of an active reality warper. He as a domain of influence where he has limited control but that's about it. Discord could have just ported them into some comical confines immediately, and if Bill were even close to an equivalent power level, so could he. But he didn't. He chased and fumbled because he's a shitter and doesn't have any proper feats.
Was always a fan of Trixie myself, I have a thing for haughty girls with a hidden sweet side
To be honest that duo was pretty fun. Morally dubious morons trying to be good people (and one is magically busted).
Her voice was nice.
>remembering back to the music comps where there was a really good one made entirely of her samples
>I can't even remember the name of the comp anymore
Like tears in the rain
It’s honestly a shame she didn’t get more songs.
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thumbnail anon I summon you
Yes, my master. I am here to serve you.
https://www.escapistmagazine.com/yahtzees-prototype-vs-infamous-challenge/
make a colex thumbnail with these pics
Could Solid Snake beat Chris Redfield or Issac Clarke?
>Chris
Absolutely.
>Issac
Nope. HA HA HA STASIS GO BRRRRRR.
>he is unaware of the boulder
Most likely although it'd be gg if Snake got hit by Isaac's statis module that'd be gg. His whole thing is avoiding that shit though so he'd probably cqc Isaac first.
I keep reading that the death battle discord are calling them out for the results but I haven't seen any screenshots at all. Are they really? How do people even join their discord?
Bill fans agree, everyone else disagrees. You gotta join their youtube membership to join the discord.
I wish the research team wanked Discord off as much as they did Bill. Shit was so heavy favored for Bill it ruins the episode. Giving him abilities he never uses or defensives he's never shown to have.
Damn, if it's this bad now I can't wait for the absolute shitstorm tomorrow when everyone sees it
So what's the consensus for Cole vs Alex?
Cole
In my opinion:
Without wank: Cole can outlast and overpower Alex. He’s got better durability, abilities and powers, and only really loses in speed. The blacklight also wouldn’t really be able to take over his body since it passively conducts enough electricity to kill someone.
With wank: MOON
LEVEL
COLE
Cole can still frick Alex over in speed with his various homing options
Yes but that just falls under “abilities”. Alex isn’t outrunning bolts that can instantly tag UAV’s, or rockets that can catch up to them, but in terms of physical speed, Cole isn’t that fast unless he’s dodging out of the way of something.
Oh I know, just pointing out how fricked Mercer is
Cole due to wank potential and having feasible counter options to Alex's tricks. As for who DB will have win who the frick knows anymore.
Apparently Moon Level Cole is a thing and if they bought fricking 11D Bill then I have nothing to fear for my boy Cole Even though most Infamous fans would say Moon Level Cole is fricking bonkers
At least Moon Level Cole has something going for it compared to 11D Bill which was just "these shitty aliens that got killed by 3D Mountain were spooked by Bill"
Ultra guy made a response
Man, he sounds like a massive b***h.
He's acting like the enmity wasn't earned.
>Bad faith
Oh bullshit. Calling out moron logic isn't bad faith.
You can tell how hard he's seething from the typos.
Damn, Matt. If you just wanted to avoid admitting your master said the N word, and is a bully and person who is irrevocably dishonest at his core, and you're not interested in doing the right thing, just say so, man.
I AM A DEATH BATTLER
DR HAN
You just know they wanted Bill to win from the start and don't want to admit it. Despite being a debate series they really don't want to be challenged on this.
>How dare you disagree with us and get suspicious when we withdraw the Q&A we normally do?
>People call out blatant bullshit
>NOOO THE TOXICITY! SAVE MEEE!
Is the pushback really that strong from this result? Never saw em get this worked up the other times people called em out.
why is everyone associated with death battle such a huge b***h?
They were the cheapest researchers they could find
I'm not going to say there aren't schizos personally obsessed with them, there are, but I simply want to see them cope about a shit call. I couldn't give a frick who each one is but I do give a frick about them dreaming shit out of nowhere to give Bill a win.
>lightning is involved
Instant DB win. If there's light, electricity or an explosion they will win due to spastic scaling instead of people trying to create a feasible inter-universe baseline. If everyone in the universe can do crazy shit either they're all crazy OR the universe is functioning in a physically distinct way meaning conventional physics don't apply. Dodging lasers and lightning falls into the latter unless the feat is likewise realistic (causing gusts of wind from breaking the sound barrier) or explicit with the text explaining why it's not also realistic in its depiction. Unless congruent with the feat text saying (oh it can also do this) means fricking nothing.
why are they acting like Q&A are just a treat for us and not a chance for them to defend their positions and validate their own claims?
Do they not understand the reasoning behind a lot of the questions they get? Most of those big questions always come from a place of skepticism or doubt.
>people want denji vs David Martinez (cyberpunk) instead of yuji vs denji on the discord.
We don’t call those kinds of homunculi “people”. They’re animals.
"died a Makoto Yuki level hero" lmao these homosexuals love persona so much it's their go to
No wonder the entire franchise is automatically classified as outerversal there
>swan says dio win
>episode comes out
>dio win
>people spent a year swanposting
>db researchers sleep
>speedy says bill wins
>episode comes out
>bill wins
>people statt speedyposting and reminding everyone he said Black person
>OMG YOU GUYS ARE SOOOO TOXIC
I could careless about saying Black person. I say pajeet all the time. But why don't these guys admit having done so? Struntie was axed for just stated his opinion, and it was less controversial than what speedy said.
What did strunt say
Total troony death
Based. Who the frick is strunt?
Former enemy of /dbg/. Known for his swank before swank was swank
Was he the moustache chad who worked for RT previously?
I want to see love seeing the cope from the research team and their stans. This is the first time the got this much push back and it shows there not good with dealing with criticism lmao
They've always been bad about that
Death Battle NEVER concedes because their egos are too fragile
>never concedes
Eh they did nod to shit like Tifa VS Yang and Garra VS Toph being comically wrong. Still I wouldn't mind if the DB team imploded. Maybe then we'd get a fresh slate and we could go back to relatively reasonable analysis days again.
They nod but they don't take it back
We need a Mythbusters-style back to basics reboot that cuts all the fluff
>no more dimensional tiering
>no more autistic researchers speaking on Ben and Chad’s behalf
>no researchers at all, actually; just make it like S1/DBX and have the winner be “whoever they feel like should win”. Which is what they’re doing now, but at least they’d be honest about it
>no more unfunny overanimated cutaway gags burning the fight budget away
>no more Boomstick dad lore
>bring back the classic DB theme with the chains and the red flames
>bring back 4-minute fight scenes
>bring back the FIGHT announcer shout
>bring back post-fight animations
>bring back Boomstick saying “Next time ooon Death Battle” for the previews instead of Ben’s balding mug talking to his Discord simps
But anon what is Death Battle without Boomstick lore
watchable
Frick Pozzstick; where’s the Wiz lore? Where’s the Doctor vs Rick Sanchez episode where we find out Doc and Rick were Wiz’s college professors?
>no researchers at all, actually; just make it like S1/DBX and have the winner be “whoever they feel like should win”. Which is what they’re doing now, but at least they’d be honest about it
They should just have simple logic instead of autistic calculations. Go back to "Guts does this every single day" tier logic.
Raven VS Phoenix sparked things. Discord VS Bill being that wrong just sent it into overdrive. Seriously they had a list of counters and means for Discord to win and then proceeded to go with actual headcanon and dvd boxset meta intervention
What’s funny is that if Speedy shut his fat trap (fatso lolololololooolo), none of this would’ve happened. He just had to plug his ears and let the anger move along, answer a few questions about why Raven could kill all of Marvel, and that would be it. Hell, he didn’t even need to comment on the fight at all.
The backlash wouldn’t have been half as bad if he just stayed quiet, but he deliberately put all eyes on him by purposefully putting himself in the center of attention for no real reason.
>b-b-but he didn’t-
Remind me, Ultra, who was the one talking about how there’s no actual consistency on the team? Who was the one who publicly said that they’d start limiting information on the researchers present in an episode on the ‘cord? Maybe if Slowy the FAT kept silent, people wouldn’t be so pissed.
They make shit up for Bill and excuse all his mistakes while still leaving stuff out for Discord and taking all his mistakes out of context to give Bill the edge.
>all those posts about muh scary 4chins boogeymen being unhinged
Hi vswiki posters. Remember that we can see your IP if you post here, and that every single image we send is embedded. I’d scrub my hard drive, if I were you. Better hope you didn’t send any of those images to your friends either.
Don't forget their tasty EXIF metadata... With their GPS location and all! Isn't technology wonderful?
Damn it, you revealed my plan to find Swan based on that Alucard image he keeps posting.
Wouldn't be a problem if you had just downloaded Nord VPN.
>unironically using nord
This poster loves giving away his data.
And subscribed to bluechew... in fact all this drama could've been solved if speedy had taken bluechew
He won and there is nothing that you ponyautists can do about it.
>Scrub Cipher
Loses to Black Hat
Feats?
From what I recall:
>Pops a planet light years away / in another galaxy nonchalantly
>Manipulates our reality and controls both his creator and his animators (superior to Bill's AMA wank)
>Beats the cartoon network multiverse which includes DC as part of his organization's web of clients
>Essentially Cartoon Nyralathotep complete with lovecraft lore wank. This is not an exaggeration as his CYOA book he has The Hound from Lovecraft show up and they nod to lovecraft shit
>Canonically stronger than all aliens in Ben 10 verse. This includes the 26th dimensional aliens
>Casual dimensional travel
>Invulnerability
>Soul destruction and manipulation
>Time manipulation
>Death touch
>Can making people's heads explode by coughing
>Killed the powerpuff girl's narrator
>Force choke from any distance
>Passive mental corruption
>Immune to divine hax
>Immune to time frickery and aware of any timeline manipulations
>Clowns on Nega Pops who actually destroyed a universe on screen
>Can trap you in a tv as well as manipulate the reality of a tv show
>Trying to possess or parasite him leads to you dying
>Mind Control
>Instantaneous speed and warping
>Any depiction of him can impact the world
>His True Form is outerversal and all the previous stuff is just from his avatar.
He's basically what Bill wank wishes he was.
They would never do this fight knowing Bill is going to lose.
what is this middling garbage
b***h destroying a planet and he thinks he can take on DC? or Ben 10? or any CN show for that matter? kek
b***h in question is Darkseid's boss
Darkseid is a jobbing cuck
Being his boss is as much of a feat as beating up starving Galactus
Cut him some slack anon, he’s a Hispanic made character who’s only cared about by fujos.
Don't blame me. That's what was covered in the eps. Working off bill wank logic, Black Hat easily thrashes him under the same rules.
The fact he makes Nega Pops his b***h alone puts him way above Bill's level because at least that guy has actual universal destruction feats
I will never get over how much it was clear that the research team wanted Bill to win. The wank is real and they'll call you toxic if you point it out.
No they go on about him being above ben 10 aliens in the Vilgax episode and when Vilgax gets an omnitrix with Black Hat's DNA in it "stating it as being by far the most powerful" it kills him when he tries to transform into that form. Point is in terms of crazy wank, Black Hat beats Bill's wank options in spades from his AMA, spirit frickery, meta intervention, and dimensional wank
Yeah but all this guy has are middling statements and no one has ever heard of him before
It's not like we'll ever see him in the show
if he is above "ALL LE BEN 10 AYYS????" then how come fricking vsbw can't even get this guy into multiversal
there's something wrong here
VSBW does have him at multiversal though? They actually have him above what they have for Bill Cipher who is only 3A
They have him at 2b creation but aside from that he's low 2c which is uni+
and they have Bill at 3A at best
They don't want to see mexicans succeed
anon... vsbw IS the mexicans...
every cosmology page may as well be a video essay script
Mexicans have their own vsbw though
https://featteca.fandom.com/es/wiki/Featteca_Wiki
believe me, I've seen the arguments there...
I've looked up the scene in question out of curiosity and
1-the guy saying "this is the strongest DNA" is his local ass kisser
2-it's reboot vilgax and thus the Ben 10 reboot continuity
Like sears, CN is still going strong in Mexico. Like 2 years ago they greenlit a show made by a mexican dude. The show in question was called villanos. Mexicans also like ben 10 hence why they included some references
Warner does. Black Hat is literally above Cartoon Network itself
i fail to see how this map puts him above cartoon network (like it means anything)
CN logo is under his subordinate clients on the right side.
like what
they buy bread from him?
>his powers come from the creator leeching off of other peoples work without actually doing anything in his own show
this guy is probably the steven seagal of vs debating. the only match up he will get is probably something hazbin hotel or helluva boss or whatever the vizziepop girl has made
There’s a reason why no one respects Villashit outside of the porn. It’s the physical representation of the “I made this” meme. Even the people who wank it can only go
>BRO BLACK HUMP IS SO POWERFUL BRO HE SOLO’d EVERY SINGLE CN CHARACTER EVER!!!
>Huh? No, he didn’t have permission from the creators to use their characters. Why do you ask?
Warner owns them all though and they supported it
that can't clearly be the case
even the edge lovers over at vsbw couldn't narrowly hop him into multiversal
all his abilities are basically shit tier too
limb regen
some portals i guess
vague "fear manipulation"
>vague "fear manipulation"
eh? do they mean he's not actually that scary but has hypnosis/telepathy that makes people afraid of him'
He has the latter but can also manifest whatever he wants is what. The CYOA book also has him trap worlds and universes in a book or some shit. In the more recent stuff they basically went full lovecraft with him lore wise.
Warner would sell the souls of all of their animators for a Big Mac so this doesn’t exactly help your case.
In fairness Villainous does have its own lore and characters with most of the crossover wank coming from the shorts and stuff. The guy who made the show loves the old school CN City bumpers and stuff having them show up. Johnny Bravo owns a gym in it
>His True Form is outerversal
What a tryhard
This is so boring. No wonder the show was canned
it wasn't canned
I can beat him if I had a research team that jerked me off as much as they did him.
Dude still lost to two kids and his uncle irc and no wank is gonna change that lmao
"Bill lost through a very specific reason so all the mistakes he made don't count. He totally has future sight and kaleidoscope vision but he's never used them beneficially in a fight because he had tunnel vision. But check out these mistakes Discord made while his guard was down and he wasn't in combat, clearly he never takes fights seriously. Bill has infinite speed despite never showing such."
>"Bill has infinite speed"
>When he got outrun by literal ten year olds while actively trying to kill them
Excuse me what
This is their argument, not mine
I find it all to be wank
He was trying to capture them so he could use their lives as a bargaining chip and just threw them aside when "Ford" relented, but yes it is inexcusable that Bill didn't just teleport in front of them, use telekinesis on them or just catch up to them.
These guys used to be laughed at for being too tame. And now they're laughed at for being too wild.
Wouldn't bill still be slower than discord with infinite speed because discord is immeasurable
Yes. Discord mogs him so hard it isn't funny. Bill doesn't even fight conceptually, he just shapeshifts and makes contracts. Yes he has an influence on shit around him to an extent but there's very limited potency in his already limited influence. Discord can literally do whatever he wants to whomever he wants and doesn't because he doesn't need to or want to. He, usually, doesn't even care about winning. The final seasons show that he can also play the long game. There's no actual reason that the fight couldn't be ended by Discord porting them both into the nightmare dimension in the first moments then leaving.
Now, while it doesn't affect the outcome at all the fact that they're conflating the unicorn hair (his natural weakness) not sucking his powers with a device that is specifically designed to channel cosmic power is even more fricking moronic. There's no reason the bell cannot or would not work. That said Discord doesn't need it and wouldn't use it.
Oh cool so him being "more serious" than Discord is even stupider of a win condition
I'm worried if Cole vs Alex is actually going to be good, the 3D matches recently have all been pretty shaky
So have most of the 2D fights really. I’m hoping that they’ll do the same thing they did for Billcord and put all of their effort into it.
Last ultra guy response
>Eh I don't really think I would see it like that. It's mostly just in terms of how much people communicate.
>Like in all honesty the researchers that are the least bothered by people are the ones who never talk in public and never spend time with the community. The quality of thier work is the same as the rest of the team, but barley anyone knows who they are and that makes them fly under the radar even if they work on eps that make people angry. Once people know who you are, people can get way more fixated on you for trivial reasons.
Thoughts?
>when people lay low and shut up, they aren’t hated as much for their dumb opinions
Gee Ultra, how many comics did you have to research through to get that information?
Should probably take his advice then, that goes for everyone here too.
wat
>no u
Vswankers really aren’t sending their best tonight…
Nice try ultra
I don't want to burst his bubble but at least here nobody cares about the researchers except swan (and that mostly comes from ben vs hal). Speedy "hate" came before he became a researcher brw
The researchers are fragile as hell. I made the most inoffensive joke about how bad their reasoning was I got kicked from the spoiler channel of the discord.
Remind me again why TV Tropes likes to use DB in their weird autistic pages of the characters talking about themselves if this show is such a nasty affair.
swan gets a lot of shit over ben vs hal swanking but you can forget the iconic DIOCARD or UNIVERSAL DARK SOULS GUY
Chosen Undead being universal didn't even matter in the long run since Dragonborn was already surpassed infinity.
No one like someone that goes half-ways.
No one gives a shit about Akum TH because he never says anything. But Speedy responded. Now he either has to defend himself or look like a pussy. You don't pop off and then run, the internet hates that.
Would it have been kino?
>They wanted to do Knuckles vs Wario before Mario vs Sonic
>Gave them completely different opponents anyways
Why?
I’ve honestly think the wank gotten really bad in DB atm. Like if even casuals can see the frick up the u know it’s a problem
https://featteca.fandom.com/es/wiki/Black_Hat
>the Mexicans have him lower than vsbw
It's so fricking over black bros...
Funny, they have yujiro at town level + massively hypersonic
https://featteca.fandom.com/es/wiki/Yujiro_Hanma
I mean Vs had him around there too but they changed since the earth quack feat is kinda iffy.
Both have him at 2C it looks like. Still above Weak Cipher
according to mexicowiki he's low 2c until the "red eclipse" or some shit is going on at which point mayyyybe he makes it into 2c
Again, still above Weak Cipher who is merely 3A at his absolute best to them.
Oh I agree anon
I like how bill gets "3a eventually via a rift or some shit ig" making him functionally lower
really sells what a b***h he is
why is his page so nicely laid out? the alien x page over at vsbw is the only one there that uses bullet points and it feels better to read
autists with biases care more about specific characters because they have an attachment to them and give them special treatment
but why don't they make this format the standard
vsbw always sucks to read because they vomit a wall of words (and you need to figure out what they mean like this)
like, the black hat page over at featteca was seemingly made by one guy so it figures things would look orderly, but many people have edited the alien x page over at vsbw and yet it manages to look coherent
not even goku gets bullet points
do dragon ball fans not now how to lay out a page? It can't be
https://featteca.fandom.com/es/wiki/Black_Hat
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Alien_X
no persona page has this much effort
Reminds me how obscure shows get a "detailed" tv tropes pages
That's exactly what happened to Bill and the research team
DREAM FEATS
Fun fact Black Hat is just the Tyrant Star.
If they just said that they like Bill more and that’s why he won then people would be less upset lmao.
The researchers did, that's why Bill has what he has. Many of them were rooting for him to win.
let's actively discuss Cole vs Alex
Any arguments for Alex winning that aren't "muh parasite"?
>Stain
I don't get this one. Butcher's real counterpart is Knuckleduster.
Knuckleduster's counterpart in The Boys is probably Love Sausage.
Frick speedy. Let's talk about something positive.
I had no idea until I checked X that one of Luis animations was posted by kfc spain
https://twitter.com/KFC_ES/status/1689215846520930304
Props to him.
That's awesome.
Low end feats should weight just as much as high end ones. If a character got hit by an ambulance and died then he can't possibly fricking be city level.
I will thank you to note that Kira is the strongest stand user in JJBA because his stand affects time AND fate. In JJBA terms Fate is always at the bottom of the resolution stack and wins out unless there's a conceptual stand whose concept is to ignore another stand's concept. Ergo despite being hit by a hambulance ,';^) and dying Kira is far stronger than city level.
Shut the frick up Swan. I hope the pigs take you some day.
Hey mook, how long do I have to wait to delete posts with shitty typos? A full day now?
A couple minutes.
Wasn't it just one minute? The frick did they changed it for, so pedophiles don't have time to delete their posts? God I hate this site even more each passing day.
Feats and statements should only be counted if they're consistent with how the character is usually portrayed.
This is simple and easy to understand as most writers will write their characters with certain capabilities in mind, as not doing that will prevent the audience from suspending their disbelief because they'll be too busy asking themselves questions like "why are there so many tentacle blade instances in this piece of media?".
I like this way better than Mark vs Gohan. Mainly because Mark can't do much to Gohan.
what can Boruto do here
Absorb ki attacks. Teleport. Stop time. Send him to another dimension.
since when can he stop time
Since we saw Momoshiki stop time in the early chapters.
how does it help him
Time stops are usefull.
>strongest entity in his franchise
>versus kid jobber
lel. Reminder Gohan has always been the strongest and the recent film wasn't setting that standard but reminding you of it.
Boruto is currently one of the top 2 strongest characters in his franchise.
Gohan is the strongest bar none. Scale all the autism of DBS to him.
If there is a character then Gohan is as strong +1. It's been this way since DB and Tori is just reminding Gocucks of his primacy again. You should never have forgotten your place.
I've been meaning to ask this but Cole and Alex finally happening made me remember.
What where the connections between Delsin and Korra? Why was he a big Matchup for her?
Legacy, element powers. Technically Delsin has the 4 classical elements too: smoke (fire), concrete (earth), video (water because it's a stream), neon (air because neon is a gas)
They’re both wienery Native spiritual successors of great heroes, who both control four elements. He was a pretty big MU for her because of that.
Ben just had too much of a hard on making two dark skin women try to kill each other instead of two random minorities.
Ultra I know you read our threads. Where is the QnA?
They don't want to defend their answer because they know it's bullshit
It would've been hilarious if at the end of the fight, completely unprompted, Discord said "Time, huh?", put on a GL uniform and crushed past Bill with a boot
How did they crew manage to out wank Swan with Chosenborn but not Speedy?
They like Skyrim but dont like Discord so they ignored his stuff
Poor Anne. Speedy’s gonna make Luz Star level when Luz can’t even handle falling debris
This is honestly why I don't want that match to happen because the decisive argument will be "which show do we like more", not who is actually stronger.
Some characters should just win based on where they end up in the show, not by trying to mathematically analyze events the writers didn't even think about. Star vs Steven made sense because no shit the genocidal action lady would be stronger than the pacifist b***h who cried for 5 seasons. You don't need to analyze how big Steven's bubble ball is or if Star's spells are cosmic level.
Anne would win because she is stronger and faster. Luz has frick all feats and no I don't care about the energy of lights because magic doesn't work that way. You don't get mana drain per joule of energy used to comprise flesh or produce force. You make something from nothing. DB can really suffer from the wrong kind of autism.
Mlp should get banned from having any future dbs
I agree.
Same with Mario, Team Fortress 2, eventually also Transformers and maybe Dreamworks pictures and other things because I don't want DB tamper with any other shit.
MLP probably will be the first true winner by never again be involved with shit battle.
I'm less mad my pick lost and more mad at the shit non-explanation we got at the end. I'm still not convinced Bill wins this more times than not.
Also the stupid background drama does not help make it feel like it was rigged.
>Spike is the reason Bill got summoned
Never gonna live this one down
>Be Bill
>Invade that land where ponies live
>Trap all of their heroes
>Discord shows up
>Kill him
>He completely outplays you and traps you back in the Nightmare Realm
>You read the conclusion and you see you didn't even kill him permanently
>Nobody accepted your deal to get out
>you read the conclusion and you see you didn't even kill him permanently
Pardone
Discord can always come back as he's a concept
They said that? I see. I missed that. I was not really paying attention post fight.
Was in the blackbox. Bill couldn’t actually kill him, but it would take to long for him to come back for it to matter according to DB. As a friend of mine said:
>It’s more so, ‘neither can *permanently* kill each other, but they can put each other down for a long enough time to be considered a victory, and Bill is more likely to do that than Discord’
Dumb, but that’s par for the course.
Discord would still have won. Frankly it should have ended with Discord escaping the nightmare dimension and Bill getting sealed like a cuck. We got half that ending.
But that's amusing and I want to be angry at the decision. Don't give them good ideas to excuse their coping and rigging.
Doesn’t this just mean that the fight had a triple fakeout death?
>Discord “dies” and returns as a spirit to enter Bill’s mind
>Bill re-enacts the end of GF, only to reveal they were inside of his mangekyo sharingan illusion the entire time
>Discord “dies” again, just to reveal to Bill that they were actually in his Aizen style illusion the entire time and poofs away to return back in Horse Town in another hour
Even his “death” explosion at the end felt more like a mocking poof teleportation than anything.
Truly amazing.
Discord will just reform after a bit. It will just take a little while.
>Discord can time travel but apparently that's not enough to make him the winner...even though he could just come back.
How long would it take him
It doesn't actually matter since he can travel back in time to right after he died.
yeah this was more of a Mildly Inconvenienced Melee than a Death Battle this time around
>Bill actually REACTS to the conclusion saying Discord will just call me back
How the hell can this even be considered a win for him at this point, he's stuck in and will die with the nightmare dimension while Q Horse probably just popped back into existence next to Fluttershy three seconds later
So Bleach is absolutelly getting a massive power boost now right?
why
Dimensional tiering? I mean, makes sense? Aizen claimed to be operating in a realm above the common mortal, and Ichigo was above even that.
But somehow they made Naruto tank an attack he shouldn't have tanked.
Oh, you mean in the context of db
I'm just going to headcanon this as Bill made a deal with Wiz that had them present him as the victor even if he fricking lost.
The battle is basically a textbook definition of “won the battle, lost the war”.
Discord is fine, and Bill is trapped for another shitzillion years again.
Making matters worse, the chances of getting into Equestria are probably shittier for a next time considering not only is he known to be a threat, but it's rather likely Luna would be on the prowl for him showing up in dreams from that point onwards, making it much more difficult to fly under the radar.
Also Bill lorewise likely eventually dies no matter what he does or doesn't accomplish in the very long run. He's trying to merge the decaying Nightmare Realm (which would eventually kill him) to other dimensions to stabilize it... but it's likely he'd just fall victim to entropy anyway, because as Time Baby put it, he's endangering the fabric of existence with what he's doing.
Kathleen Barr also voiced my favorite villain in that show; Chrysalis is fun in how she's sadistic and narcissistic.
Too bad the changeling race was soiled with the pastel deer
The only reason Bill being there because Spike falling for his tricks will forever amuse me. Wonder what he struck a deal for?
>spoiler
Aye, she’s fun. It’s a shame they never did anything with the Twilight log she kept around though. Could have used that for something neat.
The nu-changelings are a disaster and Chrysalis is a hero for not wanting her race to look like that
>It’s a shame they never did anything with the Twilight log she kept around though.
It's really is a damn shame considering how good Mean Twilight was shaping up to be as a villain, and then she got fricking melted before she could get anywhere.
>SSwirl
...wait, if he got thrown into
>no hooves
does that mean Bill's entirely cut off from his source of power until further notice?
>bill gets Doug'd
That would be a hilarious fricking ending. Would he at least be happy that the time cops aren't on his ass anymore? In a lot of ways it's a clean slate - a forced redemption.
>Bill gets blasted by the Elements as he returns, reforming him into Cill Byher, the friendly square.
Getting dosed by the borg ray is pretty much the worst outcome I could think of. I'd rather be turned to stone. Reminder that Harmony is an invasive wild magic that has parasitically attached itself to horses because they were a stable and powerful host (given their racial magic attempts to steer fate). Once it had grown enough to no longer need their protection it immediately started infecting all other local civilizations. The finale was the ultimate bad end.
It sorta was. They destroyed the Windigo’s with that last blast, so there was nothing stopping the horses from going full racism mode again. Que G5.
It’s a shame we didn’t get more of TreeTwi. She was fricking insane and I loved it.
>Luna would be on the prowl for him showing up in dreams from that point onwards, making it much more difficult to fly under the radar.
It doesn't even need to go that far. Glim and SSwirl can just yeet him straight back. Interdimensional banishment was SSwirls earliest and most favoured trick.
Discord just revives himself anyway and timetravels back to the point he died.
>”The DB crew don’t care about Discord or MLP!”
>first MLP match was an outright lie, claiming a flying horse could kill a fighter jet
>second match was a meme match w/ Deadpool that ended in a draw
>third match was a loss for Twilight, although they MASSIVELY downplayed Raven to make it close
>fourth match was a Discord win in all but technicality; he locked Bill away, saved Equestria, and is guaranteed to respawn, and Bill was left seething in his home dimension
Are we SURE they don’t care about MLP? They seem to give it more respect than fricking Dragon Ball.
Dragon Ball deserves no respect
>dude our punches are breaking existence
>how? Don't ask
>stronger punches later do nothing
>why? Don't ask
>dude I made the stage out of unbreakable material, which as a God I can produce, but you've broken it all anyway
>how? Don't ask?
DB is a fever dream and hardly has continuity. It really should be stricken from the records. Nothing consistent can ever come from it. Goku and Arele are the same tier of logic except Arele knows she's a gag manga.
>Goku and Arele are the same tier of logic except Arele knows she's a gag manga
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And if you truly need to know, Hakai was stolen out of Inuyasha.
To be fair from what I can remember every Starscream minus TFA were massive jobbers.
Ironically enough, he went the way of Discord. Lost in the battle, but he’ll be back.
True, he just got vored by a pony. He can come back eventually.
Actually, Starscream is a jobber only whenever Megatron is involved.
Against anyone else is actually far more unpredictable and never really that set-in-stone.
Clearly this means Megatron is Rainbow Dash in a mech suit
Nah, just give Starscream the underbase or keep in mind Starscream doesn't only use null ray but his shots can actually break stone and cause damage to the environment so he probably has lethal settings against organics as well.
Really, Starscream being a loser is more meme just as Pinkie Pie breaking the fourth wall, he's used as comic relief but Starscream still has a better track record than most other decepticons in his home series.
Heck he's better at picking up deceptions and cheats than Megatron like in Masquerade and Atlantis Arise.
DB was always about wanking and using weird headcanons over respecting material. Is just that people are kinda learning how shit it is.
Now honestly I wouldn't bring an outcome from that, I'm just merely pointing out that idea of them respecting characters is bull.
Wanked Bill still loses to Spongechad Squarewiener, change my mind
How could I? It's true.
Pixel scalers, where are you at?
>Bill losing in all but name is enough to stop Speedy from ending it all
This is just... sad. How autistic do you have to be to end up like this?
What did they mean by this?
He's getting buck broken
>If you wanted Discord to win, why didn’t you just ask? You voted for the match, after all, so why not vote for the result, too?
The absolute STATE of nu-nu-Death Battle
>speaks likes its the overall quality of the episode and not just their obvious biases that leads to the research being almost entirely null.
Frick off, Speedy.
Didn't he lock all discussion on Bill and Discord though.
Hilarious if true
They banned all discussion on the episode until it actually got announced because people were being "rude"
>pay to rig
DAS RIIIIIIITE
So he did rig it, happy speedy confirmed it.
Why would it be their job to research it, that's his
How does Bill's powerset change if dream feats are removed?