Next fight is Freiza (Dragon Ball) vs Megatron (Transformers) on October 9.
https://ulltraguy.blogspot.com/2023/09/suggested-media-freeza.html
https://ulltraguy.blogspot.com/2023/09/suggested-media-megatron.html
Speedy is so fat, he has more rolls than a bakery.
idk which thread we're on so send requests or whatever
Am working previous thread stuff too
A bull in a chinashop vs a chinaman in a ball shop.
Shouldn't the Chinaman be in a bull shop
I think it just autocorrected
Which one is it then
What the frick is a bull shop
The Chicago Bulls or Red Bull, duh
Ask your wife
John Cena vs John Wick (true power)
Why would Cena powerbomb Wick's dog off a steel cage like that? Now Wick's gotta tag in
Heya, thumbnail anon. Requesting Freiza black vs Megatron black to round out the rotation. Thanks in advance.
is it just this one or something more specific?
Black Alternity version is probably the most fitting, thanks.
gonna be real, I'm not seeing any actual art of him besides a jank pic and toys. Golden Megatron was kinda the same deal
Yeah, that one is probably good enough. Maybe just put a set of purple lines in the background, like what the Freiza Black picture has.
it was pretty easy to find
Eh I wanted something that looks good, like a fully gold megatron to mirror Frieza, not partway. Plus its like the only issue with Gold Megatron, so official stuff was really sparse
What the Hell man. Megatron has a golden form too?? Was that were the idea for Golden Freeza came from? That's kinda neat if so.
Why do you think this dumb idea has so much popularity? People will mealy mouth you about themes and connections, the real reason is "villains with a gold form and a stronger black form".
How's this? I also have a purple background ver for Megatron, but felt the red suited his color scheme a little more
Nice, thanks Thumbnail Anon.
Woodchucks vs Seashells
Chris Brown vs R Kelly
Kino
Gundam RX 78 2 vs Vf 1s Valkyrie
Nice
Nightsisters vs Aes Sedai
Nightsisters vs Red Ajah (makes more sense than that other one)
Marth, Roy and Ike vs Robin, Corrin and Byleth
Yuuma Toutetsu vs the Icon of Sin
Bobble Heads vs Weebles
Hong Meiling vs Chun Li vs Jam Kuradoberi vs Miyako Arima vs Ling Xiaoyu vs Pai Chan
(Red Sun in the Sky Edition)
Icon of Sin from Doom Eternal vs Gravemind from Halo
Him from Powerpuff Girls vs Aku from Samurai Jack
Renfield vs Igor
A topless white man vs a bottomless black man.
Clippy vs Bonzi Buddy
Rolento vs Colonel (FotNS)
Golb>Darksied
Golb would get munched on by HIM or Anti-Pops. Let the REAL cosmic threats take the stage.
And then you woke up, and turned off your PS2.
…said Betty to Simon as they sit and watch Golb be beaten to a pulp by AP, who just knocked the humanity (Betty) out of the “eldritch” beast seconds prior.
Nah, we need GOLB vs Azathoth
That would be kino
I’m fine with that. Anti-Pops vs Golb is basically just AP humbling the wannabe lovecraftian and showing it what true cosmic power is anyways, I’d much rather see him face off against Calasmos or HIM. Azathoth can have the faker.
How would the matchup end?
Alright, so it goes from strongest to weakest:
>Alduin (forma de Kirkbride)
>Nicol Bolas (viejo)
>Tiamat
>King Ghidorah (tierra)
>Nicol Bolas (nuevo)
>King Ghidorah (normal)
>Deathwing
>Alduin (forma de visuals and gameplay)
So, fairly obviously Alduin and Nicol Bolas pair up and KG and Deathwing is the legacy fight. Is there anyone fitting for Tiamat? Takhisis is too obviously a clone. Maybe the Ebon Dragon from Exalted? The Wyrm from World of Darkness?
>Alduin is the beginning and the end
Bravo, Anonymous
If Alduin eats dimensions like I eat pussy, he wins.
Just kick Ghidorah out. He doesn't belong in the BR of western RPG world-ending dragons.
ain't MTG just a card game? And for that matter, I think this was just because people were throwing around variations of mu's between these 5, Deathwing vs Ghidorah being the most prominent because of the DeathCast or whatever
MTG has almost 80 books about its lore.
cool, still not an rpg though, anon. It's like saying Ghidorah also has like a dozen movies, games, and other media. Still not an rpg either
Mtg is literally a western game using many features of western RPG's. He can ride.
Ghidorah has nothing even remotely western or RPG. He fricks off.
There are official D&D books for Magic the Gathering, including the setup for War of the Spark.
Well, there you go.
Kick that bum Ghidorah OUT!
Magic did have some kind of tabletop game but god only knows what it was about
*Blocks their path*
Alright, that's decent opponent for Tiamat. What's his lore?
unlike other God monsters. This card is another reference to MtG during early yugioh. Sorry.
They're not doing a Death Battle with a random fricking Yu-Gi-Oh! card. They have no feats or stats or anything to go off of what-so-ever.
Cringe.
GOLB solos yugioh, cope.
holy cringe, get the book of park records past The Enchiridion first. Regular Show KNEELS to Adventure Time.
We got ourselves a Schizo-Psycho here guys.
Mordecai and Rigby with the magic keyboard solo Golb and Adventure Time.
>RS Magic Keyboard
>Uses normal electricity
>Batteries can die
>Jobs to a Gorilla's fist
>Mordecai and Rigby with the magic keyboard solo Golb and Adventure Time.
Mordecai and Rigby get TETRIS'd before they can even think of a song.
I would say Mordecai and Rigby need Death Kwon Do level skills if they want to take Adventure Time on. Giving them the Magic Keyboard on top of that would be sick.
Does the Death Block give Mordecai infinite defense?
>Does the Death Block give Mordecai infinite defense?
The Death Punch AP is about mini crater to park size level (Rigby training). It's implied Death Kwon Do moves can be trained to be more powerful since Mordecai could tank Rigby's DP because he trained more with the Death Block.
Damn, Tiamat vs Nicol Bolas was always my personal choice for best matchup, with him locked in fighting Alduin I have no idea who she'd scrap against. The Wyrm from World of Darkness could be interesting, what are some feats it has under its belt?
https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Wyrm
A member of a triad of primordial forces, the Wyrm was originally a force of decay, destruction, and renewal but the embodiment of order got pissed it kept breaking things and trapped it. The Wyrm went insane and evil, divided itself into a further triad of rage, greed, and moral rot, and constantly struggles to get free. These struggles cause corruption, darkness, and chaos. As the prison is the fabric of reality itself, and World of Darkness reality is like most TTRPGs one with multiverses and stuff, this means its struggles would likely be interpreted as multiversal in effect. Fighting the Wyrm is like fighting entropy itself. When it manifests a physical avatar for the apocalypse, the avatar shows up from deep space with red stars for eyes and starts eating planets.
I'm honestly wondering, what has caused the WoD to get wanked so hard in normie spaces?
Like 40k, it is dark and edgy which idiots will assume is more powerful.
All TTRPGs are as such, anon.
Yeah but 40k gets a lot of pushback
Meanwhile you have people saying wod God is gigasuperpowerful
Even vsbw has him tiered as boundless, what the frick is that shit?
>Even vsbw has him tiered as boundless
Oh man, they do. That's moronic. Why do they have him that high?
Genuinely have 0 idea
I'm gonna look into it because I'm interested in seeing what massive mental gymnastics they used to make WoD infinitely narratively trascendental or whatever the frick their requirement is
It's troonyshit, and they're trannies. Seems logical.
Here's what his own page says(for each key) DO NOT READ IF YOU VALUE YOUR BRAIN CELLS
"Boundless (Yahweh is a fundamental aspect of the Tree of Life that, like his consort, resides in its highest world, corresponding to the Epiphamies, purely conceptual domains that lie at the apex of the High Umbra, atop an hierarchy of increasingly abstract levels of existence and consciousness, each of which perceives the one before it as shadows cast upon a wall, that extends into infinity and whose second lowest level, the Vulgate / Yesod is a space where all mathematically coherent phenomena are instantiated in material form, as opposed to the Epiphamies themselves, where only the pure ideas of such things exist) | Boundless (Jehovah is the Supreme Creator and the active consciousness [nous] of the Essential Divinity, being responsible for the making of the Tellurian itself and being one with all of Creation [Which encompasses the Etherspace that contains and transcends the Epiphamies of Earth's Shard Realm, as well as the void of the Deep Umbra that lies even further beyond it], while simultaneously existing outside of it in a state equal to those who achieved the Black Diamond, which is described as causing a Nephandi to reach beyond all conception and into a level undefinable by any symbols or divisions, which are all collapsed into nothingness and reunited into the darkness of the Void)"
perhaps that setting is way, way more obscure. and the only ones that are ever used in battle boarding discussions, they'd be the alleged Black personversals using walls of text nobody wants to sit through
I mean WoD is certainly more obscure than WH40K but the name Vampire: The Masquerade should still ring some bells here and there
It's not some ancient 5000 page long Korean text
It's because most TTRPGs that feature big bads usually give them stats that could theoretically be overcome. WoD, being based in horror, went the route of everything big and nasty should be insurmountablem so they're reality warpers at the least. All the Antideluvean vampires can use whatever their bloodline powers are to do whatever bullshit the narrative calls for, Caine just has you lose written on a piece of paper, I remember the big Mage bad guy when from the final Apocalypse had actual stats, but he was max in all magic, and immune to paradox, so he could counter anything a player did, make up whatever bullshit he wanted and if you tried to be as fantastic, creation itself would turn you inside out. I don't remember what the Wyrm does, or the things Wraiths, Mummies, Changlings, and Demons dealt with, while Hunters dealt with all the above while being guys with guns and a little slightly divine magic.
For contrast, Tiamat has stats, a party of sufficiently high level adventurers could beat her in a straight fight. She's actually one of the final boss encounters designed for 4E, and she hits hard, but at that point so do the players, and it was possible to drop her in 1-3 rounds if you had the right setup.
iirc the Caine sheet is a meme
in fact, it's dnd with planescape that actually has a "you lose" (for the lady of pain)
>Stats
>Caine just has you lose written on a piece of paper
Letters and Numbers? They are fiction
Nah even Caine solos Midaka box
What a stupid cuck setting
Just keep adding dragons to this pic dude.
- Ancalogon
- Rayquaza
- Acnologia
- Jack of Blades
- Kaido
- Tohru
- the dragon from the Witcher 2
- Discord, again
- Wargraymon
- the dragon from the Wales country
- Midir
- Divine Dragon (Sekiro)
- Grigori
- the dragon from Shrek
- the dragon you chase when you hit the pipe
frick, don't tempt me anon, I could do it
Kaijugays out!!!
God bless and keep you, anon.
It's all water weight btw.
his cut would be fricking legendary.
>Cado Ass void
Jobs to GODzilla alone. KWAB
>CHUdzilla
Jobs to the Ass Void.
>posting a scan of an event Godzilla survived
Try harder
I will make Godzilla my b***h!
You made Nikocado look like Omni-Man
Is it fair to say dimensional tiering was the worst thing to happen in this hobby? It's like morons have to find new ways to wank there favs
How many characters actually scale to their entire setting? It's moronic and instantly invalidates the arguer and their arguments.
No, DT is just dumb because you can’t really apply it to speed or strength unless it’s specifically stated to function as such. Having a lot of dimensions just means you’re more complex as a being, it doesn’t really let you hit harder. The REAL worst thing to happen to this hobby is NLF’s and people who can’t into context.
>it doesn’t really let you hit harder
If anything, you hit softer
I only like this hobby because I got bullied in school and am too moron to like hobbies for sex havers.
I think you’re just autistic, and probably also a cuck.
I am. Got cucked in school, and post school too. Women just won't pick me.
Luckily, this hobby will never say no to me.
dimonsional tiering only makes sense for characters that are explicitally trancendant beings.
Saying that a guy who's fights by literally punching and kicking shouldn't be even considered.
Dimensional tiering isn't bad in concept the problem is that Death Battle and many people use it without zero thoughts or context.
Saying One person who has equal or slightly higher stats than another person who has time hax loses makes sense.
Saying someone wins because they're 7D when the author probably doesn't even understand what 7D is or their explanation of 7D means nothing, is where things get dumb.
The author doesn't understand attack potency, hax, or upscaling but those terms are still used and understood.
Thoughts on pic related? It's The Engineer (TF2) vs Leonard (Redneck Rampage).
>Luffy and Simon won the Death Battle Casts and Cinemaphile is still crying
Kino
won
He did? I only saw Gojoposting and Simonposting.
Yeah, they had the same situation where it frame down to a tiebreaker, Luffy swept
Who was he up against?
Naruto
Naruto, he’s second best opponent
Who’s first?
>Cinemaphile will never stop crying over Superman
ftfy
Man this just make me realize they never do this kind of sketchy thick-outline animation anymore in the anime.
GOLBetty solos your favorite verse.
>ATgay still seething
kek
There's an ATgay now? What's he shilling?
The A-Team, of course.
Adventure Time cosmic beings despite the fact the biggest great ever was canon I ally shut down by music
I bet ATgay is the same one pushing Makima vs PB despite the fact that Makima stomps PB hard.
100% has to be
It’s not even her best matchup
>inferior shonen garbage
Not worth being paired with Adventure Kino
>Kino
If you’re a hairy lesbian, sure.
You didn’t just call One Piece trash then proceeded to act like Adventure Time.
Oh, One Piece is trash.
Eh even something like Mashle would be above Adventure Time
Bro, can you stop pretending One Piece is even worth following past Ennies Lobby? Thanks.
Doflamingo > Any AT villain
Wano being a horrible piece of shit = reason to not even consider One Piece
Wano > any AT arc or miniseries.
It died around Breezy dude. It’s frankly for genuinely moronic people
>Wano > any AT arc or miniseries.
In what parameters? Surely not writing because AT and Fionna and Cake have characters and a story worth being followed.
But Wano is Wano. You get your socks rocked if all you want to see is characters beefing with each others and reaction panels, lots and lots and lots and lots of reaction panels.
God, One Piece is trash. I don't know what makes people even like this shit. It feels like a cult to me.
>and Fionna and Cake have characters and a story worth being followed.
Uh genuinely no
In 10 episodes it told more than One Piece in 400 or whatever it took from WCI to the end of Wano. More stuff happened too. We got to see bad endings for some dimensions, actual death and consequences, something that in One Piece just doesn't exist.
>got to see bad endings for some dimensions, actual death and consequences, something that in One Piece just doesn't exist.
Death and consequences by themselves as a marker for quakittt genuinely doenst work. It’s the equivalent of saying JL: Apokolips War was god. Frankly Fionna and Cake were simply another attempt at a narrative with depression metaphors for college age wannabe philosophers. It’s an okay series if you’re an overweight roastie but I wouldn’t really recommend jt. Sanji vs Queen alone shits on it in terms of entertainment
>Sanji vs Queen alone shits on it in terms of entertainment
Character 3 vs character 3 but different arc. Fight probably took a few episodes and was full of cuts because One Piece doesn't know how to make short fights.
One Piece is horrible lol
>Character 3 vs character 3 but different arc. Fight probably took a few episodes
Talking about manga, second tier
The manga is just as bad. The art is offensive to the eyes, it's padded with reaction panels and it's 1000+ chapters long.
I think Oda is just afraid of letting it end because he knows the ending is going to be terrible.
>actual death and consequences
Like what?
It's a 50/50 chance that Farmworld Finn is alive or not. We didn't even see any blood which the series didn't shy away from. Scarab is actively erasing the world and tried to kill Fionna and Cake but proceeds to get shit on by two kids and a baby in a tank, and then get treated like a joke the rest of the time. The Lich did nothing but sit around and then cry to Golb about not getting anything out of his total murder.
The only reason we get 'bad endings' in some dimensions because they ultimately don't matter. They aren't the main characters, hell they're characters the MCs barely even get to know before they frick off to the next dimension.
Given that the Farmworld kids just appear and decided to stay just cause, along with baby Finn, without any consequence despite 'crossovers being bad' just shows how little stakes there actually were in the end.
I like F&C fine enough but don't act like it's got 'actual death and consequences' when it's got a sappy happy ending where everyone is perfectly fine, arguably even moreso than the ending to the original AT because that at least ended with the loss of Betty and Fern.
>Like what?
The vamp dimension.
How many people did you see dying in the 10000 episodes of One Piece?
A couple of dudes? And more important than that, where are the stakes? What's the fricking point of introducing villains if your hero is just going to turn super Saiyan and kill everything? Japan struck gold with the actual SS vs Freeza, now it's just digging a septic tank.
>The vamp dimension
Oh you mean the dimension where Martin was introduced and then killed within like 10 minutes? Wow, such stakes. Stakes the ride entirely on being familiar the the actual Martin from the original show. Otherwise no one would give a frick about this random dude's death. Hell, there's still no reason to care about it because it's not 'the' Martin. That same dimension where they accidentally brought a baby to, and the baby was never once in even implied danger?
You could literally cut the vamp dimension out and nothing changes about the overall story, that's how little it matters. It's a cool little fanservice dimension, don't act like it's anything more than that.
And why are you asking me about One Piece? Nothing in my post indicated that I was defending it. Just that your claims of F&C having things it doesn't is stupid.
tldr
Boring as frick post.
Concession accepted.
What's One Piece even about? Dudes getting power ups? Nothing ever happens in that heap of shit of a manga.
Reminder everyone paid attention to Netflix One Piece instead of Fionna and Cake the day they both premiered
>one of the biggest anime IPs ever
>everyone knows it's gonna flop but might as well see how bad the damage is
Vs
>spinoff of 2010s show that already had a mediocre spinoff, this time with r63 Finn but also purely human and not fantastical
>1st ep is just an austic woman saying life blows and taking off her pants in public to somehow deface her boss
Don't know what you were expecting anon
>Flop
Highest viewed Netflix series
>biggest anime IP ever
Yes, we know it would get views, but do people actually like it was my point
Didn’t a lot of people like it, I see a lot of middle aged people in my town talking about it. Even my barber brought it up
came a few days back screeching about how prismo was SUPER MEGA POWERFUL AND SLEPT ON BECAUSE... HE JUST IS OK???!?
and now he's talking about how the red guy from the new spinoff is homieversal because he stared at some cosmic ball guy and how GOLB being outside the multiverse means he can clearly destroy it
>and how GOLB being outside the multiverse means he can clearly destroy it
kek
ridiculous
that makes Green Arrow Multiversal
This is the character Darksied wishes he was.
Darkseid is a comically overrated piece of crap hyped up by people who have never touched a comic he's in but he still solos gay Time
Adventure Time mogged your mind.
It’s not a very good series so no
It's probably better than the series you're wanking in this same thread.
Not wanking but Bleach is definitely better
Bleach sucks ass. The animation is terrible and the story is even worse.
Very very difficult to be worse than Dyke Time
>gay Timer can't even form coherent sentences
unsurprising
Barely know what that is, so, no.
>Adventure Time mogged your mind.
Golb just transported their minds across time and space, winning the battle instantly.
Solos your favorite verse.
Even Scarab is far too much for their verses.
You mean the same guy who was struggling to beat up a normie?
He can't be destroyed, only contained. Krapo would get GAPPED and TRAPPED in his crystal.
>scarab after a half hearted punch from kratos scatters his atoms
You forgot the pic therefore Kratos gets gapped.
I didn't forget it, but you forgot your microscope
That's what she told me.
Yes I'm into sph
my eldritch HERO is such a chad.
Manny Weiss OWNS him
>died to people singing
>things that never happened
Golb had to be fused with a Betty wish to leave and still didn't die.
>cucked by people singing
>gets literally DOMINATED AND TAKEN OVER by some woman with a crown
>gets literally DOMINATED AND TAKEN OVER by some woman
You heard it here first folks, any woman can beat GOLB with ease.
>by
The crown. Speedwatchers need to be purged.
>ATgays coping
Regular Show negs gay Time so hard it's not even funny
So it can face Darkseid then?
Potential incapacitation but ultimately useless as an attack
More like you wish he was Darkseid
That's what you're saying, champ.
Loses to Binks’ Brew
Stay in your lane, pal. We already know what happened last time Regular Show crossed over with AT. Now go get eaten alive by an actual eldritch threat.
>disingenuous schizo babble
the magic crown solos regular show verse with a single wish, regulargays.
GOLB TANKED it.
Finn, Jake, and literally every member of the Candy Kingdom got immediately decked by Mordecai and Rigby with ease the second they got the SMALLEST amount of weirdness that powers their world. You don’t want this fight.
And for the record, Book of Park Records and the time machines >>>>>The crown.
>"Oooooh! Golb's a frickin' b***h! And so's this Anon too! Anon should frickin' kill himself! OOOOOOHHH!!!"
>Mordecai babble
>sub BMO's thoughts level
>insane, paranoid schizophrenic wailing.
I accept your surrender.
>Summons Roman Reigns
I’m sorry, but GOLB does actually best him tho
Mate exists outside the multiverse.
That’s still not a feat. I have no idea why you think that that’s impressive when reality in AT is so shit that Death can die, the strongest being evar can be controlled by an average woman with moderate magic knowledge, and the universes are the size of actual thoughts.
Yeah Moon/Madoka and Goku/Ryu are still tied by the way.
Thanks for the update satan. I wonder what they’ll do if it’s still tied by next Tuesday.
Hopefully declare moondoka the winner while dabbing.
Better yet, declare this ballot a waste and throw the whole thing out.
The fanpoll? What are the other options and who won the second one?
I can't imagine how Ryu is supposed to scratch Goku's toenail as someone who's played thousands of hours of SF.
it's composite goku vs composite ryu, meaning they scale them to all their crossover/gacha/etc shit. meaning ryu might actually win
imo i find composite akuma vs composite godzilla more interesting, given those guys just wreck everyones shit when they show up in crossovers
>Ryu and Goku are both in fortnite
>They have the same parameters
Can't believe Death Battle is going to have a draw outcome
Fortnite isn't a valid scaling source for crossovers, in the lore everyone gets a durability nerf + loses their memories and ability to use their powers while in The Loop, except Batkek who keeps his memory and powers because of the material his visor is made from but is still trapped there.
>don't know the word mog
>Gets mogged
These people have never read the alphabet. It's just simple romanic words being stringed together, you arabs.
Rome won, and warped you feeble minds.
>esl
lol
>enjoys the crumbs I'm feeding him
You're a turtle in my pond.
this turtle's gonna bite you so hard you'll develop taste and quit watching gay Time
>gayborn getting uppity
>gay Timer calling others gays
ironic
Is there a Gigatron?
Yes, but he was just called Megatron when Car Robots was brought over to the US as Robots in Disguise.
wow
DevilArtemis supports Goku vs Ryu.
Ah, thank you,
Scarab literally can't die. It could take him 100.000.000 years but he would destroy your verse.
>was being held back by a single basic human
kek
Funny, but isn't that how it works every time??? You wank the characters that beat up the guy that has feats.
Scarab was destroying Fiona's universe. If those humans were able to beat him up, then that means they're universe level too!
>Scarab was destroying Fiona's universe. If those humans were able to beat him up, then that means they're universe level too!
You know, this same reasoning is what wankers do to wank Joker from Persona...
cry mad homie joker wins no diff
>Scarab was destroying Fiona's universe.
Wasn’t that just his tech. By himself he just threw a tantrum and could only wreck buildings
>Wasn’t that just his tech?
He's just another Anti-Monitor I guess.
Funnyroo thing about that.
He and Cake tanked his tech.
What? This part? That’s because they were made authorized and his tech only works on unauthorized stuff
Didn't Golb do that?
>“GOLB is the strongest EVAR”
>Is defeated with a basic incapacitation wish
>“Scarab is the strongest EVAR”
>Is defeated with a basic incapacitation ice spell
>“Prismo is the strongest EVAR”
>Is defeated with basic imprisonment
>“Lich is the strongest EVAR”
>Is defeated with basic incapacitation resin
I’m starting to notice a trend here…
You can literally do this for every series, though.
Yes yes, every series has the strong cosmic beings get dick slapped by normal ice, a box, and tree resin. I remember when Black Canary defeated Perpetua by making a wish with Mr.Mxy’s hair and fusing with her in order to save the DC multiverse.
Go ahead, b***h. I want you to make a list of other cosmic beings eating shit to basic things. Hard mode: No DC or Marvel.
>Hard mode: No DC or Marvel.
Kek
The absolute state of comics
Every single jrpg in existence.
People thinks Ichigo is multiverse level because he's able to hurt Yhwach.
If it was basic, just about anyone could've done it. But your point stands. The characters understand these guys can't be "Killed," so they just opt to do the sensible thing and shove them in a place or situation where they'll stay put
getting TRAPPED and BETRAYED by normies is still godawful
I'm 90% sure there's only a handful of normies in the entire verse. 99% of the characters in the series aren't human and almost as often have pretty good physical capabilities.
Unless you're that guy who simply has his Servant buff the shit out of him and uses karate. I forgot his name
Yeah but they're still relative normies
Fair enough
Basically this week in general.
I love how everyone just forgot about that MU. I don’t even think the fans of it are putting in the effort to advertise the fight.
Ragna's opponent is a literal who and obnxious JRPG weebs from twitter are not a real audience
You keep saying this as if Blazblue isn't weebshit as well. And keep ignoring that Berseria alone outsold BB as a franchise.
>Weeb fighter years out of their prime vs Weeb JRPG years out of their prime
Lmfao no wonder that shit bombed
It's also a horrific stomp, since Ragna just slaughters her at every possible level of interpretation. And they have nothing in common except maybe "demon arm", in which case you might as well have one of them fight Nero so Hellboy is freed up to fight Devilman.
It's a who vs who match going up against Sailor Moon and Goku
Shit was stillborn
I can only assume Scorpion vs Wolf is the one taking the picture.
Pretty much
Still stalemates, If not beats, the piss drinker
Again, this week in a nutshell.
So Moon/Madoka got the lead and now it's tied again, Jesus...
the closest round after the last two were stomps
Any good opponents for Riki-Oh?
Kenshiro I guess
Nice
I haven't read the manga yet, but I think Kenshiro stomps Riki.
I think the same with Jack.
Violence Jack
Old Boy? Ichi the Killer?
Old Boy gets pasted against Riki.
>Ichi the Killer
I haven't seen the movie or the manga yet, but the guy on the cover isn't Ichi.
>but the guy on the cover isn't Ichi.
On what cover?
Yeah that's Kakihara which almost never fights in the manga and has like 0 feats since he likes torturing rather than fighting. Ichi however is really fast.
Underrated matchup this season by the way. Right result and pretty cool battle animation, the scaling is god awful but hardly the worst they’ve ever done
Btw, what’s everyone problem with using lore feats for guys like them, or Kratos and Doomslayer?
Oof
Care to explain or are you going to keep seething
'Lore feats' such as...?
Dark Souls' lore got completely fricked up by DB and was absolutely disgusting to experience.
>Care to explain or are you going to keep seething
The extremely repetitive and boring formula, full of dropped plot points, terrible retroactive writing, and padding across 1000+ chapters didn't tick you off?
Oh dear.
>Btw, what’s everyone problem with using lore feats for guys like them, or Kratos and Doomslayer?
Generally I don’t enjoy lore feats at all
>is merely mentioned
>multiple schizos have tantrums
How does he do it?
Why does he have normal human eyes here
Nobody ever has an explanation for that, they refuse to acknowledge it, like ignoring it will make it go away
Honestly it depresses me that Heisei is still the “Strongest” despite having the worst on screen showings
What controversial cape matches still exist? I feel like Superman vs Thor is probably the last one, I guess by controversial I mean something that'll get them like 6 million+ views and get this general, sub reddits, and battleboard places alike to be shitposting and arguing for awhile
There's also Superman vs Hulk, and team battles
idk maybe Hulk vs Doomsday
Like what? JUST capeshit or East vs west.
I think Galactus vs Unicron could count, I’ve seen people fight hard for Transformers lore
Jack 'the King' Kirby vs Stan 'the Man' Lee
>they make Thor faster than Superman
Green Lantern vs Silver Surfer I think is the last main rivalry. That, and Green Goblin vs Joker.
>All this homosexualry
Baki rapes Finn
Based
Too bad we’re probably getting Joker vs Junko thanks to Liam being a Danganrompa gay
Okay, but does One Piece’s message boil down into something as asinine as “Escapeism… is le bad” like F&C?
>“Escapeism… is le bad”
You take the fricking conclusions you want. At least you can get a conclusion.
In One Piece you're just left wonder why the rubber man turned into Super Saiyan White mode out of the sudden and go with it.
What’s to understand? Awakening, he can make other things rubber like Doflamingo can make things string
It's cause he ate a super DUPER melon, doncha know
?t=92
It's funny how this is probably Finn's best strength feat. At least off the top of my head.
I miss when Regular Show, Adventure Time, and Gumball were airing on TV, I feel like zoomers will be the last generation to grow up with live television instead of 12 different streaming apps
>finncels on my thread
Rope. EXPEDITIOUSLY.
A lot of you people say shit you've clearly seen others post without understanding the context and it reeks of board tourism...
Ehhh why are AT homies going crazy? You're not even arguing about something like Finn/Lich vs Luffy
East Blue Luffy alone probably beats Finn
>wacky autism show but its... LE MATURE comes out
>suddenly its the height of fiction
I never wanna see any one on this website act like theyre better than plebbit ever again if this is the quality of users it produces
Adventure time was better when it was just finn and Jake doing their thing. Now it's a shell of its former self.
>only decent armored core MU is against BT from Titanfall who gets mogged horrifically
lol
Is there anything from Front Mission?
What about the Nirvash
MTF still the best
>Thor now officially, truly, fully, unironically has the Odin-Force for himself now
Okay so what’s the excuse for not giving it to him in his next episode?
So what, the previous six million times he had it in the comics, it was only half?
Are superheroes actually fighting FTL when every single time they fight, like there's no way Superman is just speedblitzing Lex everytime
Superman is the classic example of 'always holding back'
Which makes him honestly pathetic, considering he has also shown to have masterful control over his strength im some fights. Which means his competence fluctuates to "man with perfect zen control" to "I will literally destroy this planet if I put in a bit of effort so I can't just stop Genocider the Babykiller from eating the entire orphanage"
Scans?
Theta state
No. "Feats" and character interactions are different spheres altogether
Yes
Yes
Is your car(you probably don't have one) always moving at its maximum possible speed?
If I was trying to kill someone? Yes. What a moronic analogy
>Gee Superguy, won't don't you set the atmosphere on fire by punching Crookman with enough force to bounce his head off the Source Wall?
The karate tournament stories are down the hall in Shonen land.
>he forgets he has complete control over his strength but only if the jackoffs at the writer's room want that to happen
Theta State was meant to be a circumstantial zen meditation thing and wasn't supposed to be wanked to Superman having reality control powers.
I'm talking about him having precise control over his strength, idiot. It's not just this, too. Heat vision lobotomy (granted he did say he was always better at that then controlling his own strength). Super muscle control. The problem isn't that he holds back, it's him being very capable of ending things quick with minimal if not zero damages at all but somehow not being able, too. No amount of "he's afraid he might frick up" works when he still somehow did it. He's clearly shown that he is in control of his powers a majority of the time, he just lets Kalibak tear through a street before just ending the fight. This is even worse for the speedsters.
>Gee Superguy, won't don't you set the atmosphere on fire by punching Crookman with enough force to bounce his head off the Source Wall?
yet his fight with Doomsday didn't destroy more than a city block, same for every othertime he's fought somebody that is suppossed to be his equal.
It depends on the stories. But we've seen multiple instances where Superman is very capable of catching Flash going fast as frick with the most casual ease.
This, capeshit characters both have the most insane feats yet also are all shown to be on the same level.
For exemple, when superhero team fight a bad guy the like of a man who trains hard and a living god will somehow both be relevent.
Be real, how many of you are gonna keep watching a show that just keeps making you feel constantly dissapointed or enraged?
Every veredict just brings REEEE everywhere is almost a running gag.
Idk, it can sometimes be fun to talk about
>sometimes
Yeah well how about something CONSISTENTLY enjoyable?
>find out about the discord trannies from the fandom rigging the fights and bookings
>recall my past experience as an innocent young zealot in the fandom, being gatekept by an oligarchy of stuck up pretentious tranime pfps who upheld "good writing" and "genuine passion for fiction" as means to declare superiority
>one of them fricking groomed me into abandoning my past preferences
>Death Battle inveitably does the MU that poorly represents and humiliates my beloved waifu (who i repressed during my days within the fandom due to my conflicts with the zealot's astroturfing)
>it has shit quality over "muh thematic headcanon", analysis' highlights are references to memes about the rocks and troony allegory
>morons let it slide, probably gets meme'd on in the same way the zone parody animation was but not as much
>twocanplaythatgame.mp4
>plan to dive deep into the arts and start studying digital art and animation to surpass that of what death battle can efford
>create a webtoon that gains online traction through various virtue signaling and appeal to generational zeitgeist
>said character from said webtoon is a blatant self-insert who's background based on this hypothetical occurance as seen in the narrative that glorifies me and antagonizes the collective hivemind of the fandom
>make several references to old aspects of that fandom that involved esoteric math ontology
>climb up the ladder, garnering an increasing group of wankers and shills who push the agenda that my OC can defeat a DC herald
>inveitably, infiltrate Death Battle and buy it from Rooster Teeth
>Not only become the first to defeat a DC herald, but prove that ultimately battleboarding/VS Debating is all about bias
>This would filter all the "I HECKIN' LOVE SCIENCE" research psueds and enable an influx of more comptent artists into the staff that focus more on quality animation and direction rather then "thematic accuracy"
>Tiering system gets abolished
>Otto dies to an Asthma attack, Swan retires
was it confirmed the troonycord was responsible for the shitty booking?
>confirmed
shadow vs ryuko was the conformation considering its literally a twitter meme, quite subtle but the most reliable sources can help one see this was the case since season 6
my source is my intuitation based on multiple interactions with the "fandom culture" surrounding the topic of VS fyi
wasn't that not a thing until Season 9 when Boba vs Predator was coming out?
Could a fight between 2 patients zero work?
why would you want a fight with the same guy?
Updat on COMPku vs COMPyu.
Wolf vs Scorp got ahead if it
Post the screenshot.
Go check for yourself
This mu is ass.
It's better than pedo moeshit, Blazblue vs a nobody that stands no chance at beating him, and a Sekiro fight that doesn't have him fighting WIlliam from Nioh. It's the least worst of a terrible lot. If Zeus vs Odin was in this batch it would probably be winning.
William is for Samanosuke from Onimusha.
I can sort of respect that, but really if Samanosuke is going to fight anyone it should be Wolf himself. Both are better than fricking Scorpion, though.
we still have no idea what Megatron is getting besides the fact that it's G1
>we will be using the version of megatron you made up when you were a kid
So no nipnopchingchongmegatron?
instead we're getting Megatron with Superman scaling
If the DC crossover was never cancelled then yes there’s a good chance we could’ve gotten Superman scaling.
Damn Optimus vs Superman looks better every day
>kills based truck man and holds spark like earth on the all-star cover
>"THIS IS LE TRUTH, JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN WAY, I AM SORRY I HAD TO HUMBLE YOU WITH MY SHEER POWER"
>KO!
>WOWZERS WIZ! THE OUTCOME WAS SO UNPERDICTABLE!!!! WHO COULD'VE THOUGHT THAT OPTIMUS PRIME WOULD LOSE TO THE MAN WITH NO LIMITS!?
>some family guy skit with doing a haha funny fart joke + pop culture reference followed after blah blah blah kabblah blah blah blah muh post-hegelian muh cardinality blah blah blah superman is an ontological religious archetype that lives in our hearts while Optimus is just a Qliphoth
>the Winner is Superman
>fight is animated by DevilArtemis and written and directed by Liam Swan btw
that's evil, i like it.
forgot the part where xe gets blacked mutually with lois, because that's what SUPERheroes do! kinda wholesome and thematic if you ask me...
>scaling
Means nothing. Death Battle says Doctor Doom is always moving faster than 1.8 quintillion times the speed of light because he rected to Thor's hammer one time. They are assuming Thor's hammer is always moving at universe crossing speeds every time he throws it. Because they are fricking morons, and so is anyone who uses scaling, which only results in contradictions, paradoxes and nonsense. Goku in Drgon Ball Super was once damaged by a bullet from a handgun, and according to scaling, that bullet is now at least planetary, and also according to scaling, any Human that survives being shot by handguns is at or above planetary durability. See how fricking stupid that gets?
Oh I don't disagree. Scaling gets stupider and stupider the deeper you go. I was just saying if the crossover came out then DB would possibly have used it. It would be like saying Kraang is multiversal because he beat Anti-Monitor in the Batman and TMNT crossover. It's completely moronic.
>Scared if Multiversal Kraang
>t. MODOK
Isn't MODOK just a basic b***h that jobs to the Hulk regularly, similar to The Leader? I don't even think he wins against regular Kraang and his goons.
I’m pretty sure he can hack the Technodrome
>Goku in Drgon Ball Super was once damaged by a bullet from a handgun, and according to scaling, that bullet is now at least planetary
No, it means the bullet is an anti-feat, you fricking redditor moron
We were robbed.
If they use Alternity imma be pist, IDW is.... fine I guess, I don't think they have too much material to pull from besides the books and cartoons anyways
but what if the Megatron action figure from when I was a kid got the shit kicked out of him by my Captain Kirk action figure?
What other Dragonball matchups can they do after this? I've seen Gorr Vs Zamasu thrown around on Reddit. Omniman Vs Bardock is another I've heard.
Goku vs Seiya
I once made fanartin these threads for this match. Anyone wants to see it? It's shitty but I did my best lol
Sure.
Ok, just found it.
Date:
>02.08.2020
It's been a while.
Cool
Nice. Gorr looks a bit goofy, but I like the framing.
The best one
Not familiar with the guy on the right. I think he's from Saint Seiya? Is the connection jobbers?
Yep, Unicorn Jabu, they're both kind of jobbers and the early rivals that got left in the dust power-wise, also some people call them simps
cell vs super skrull
atrocitus vs jiren
Am I the only one who wanted Zamasu vs Reverse Flash 2??
Bring me Tiamat (D&D)
So they’re either feeding Megatron to Frieza as Frieza stomps hard, or feeding Frieza to frankenstein’s composite megatron
Boring if the only intrigue from your matchup is what one of the opponents weighs in at, not the matchup itself
Does Megatron stand a chance at all? Is this gonna be a fight where everyone thinks Frieza is obviously going to win, but then actually it's Megatron who does?
He stands even less chance than he used to thanks to Black Frieza.
It's a prime example of the "connections!!!" mind goblin.
It's DB so flip a coin.
Normal G1 Megatron, no he gets mopped easily. He gets maybe planetary+ at max if they scale him 1:1 with Optimus.
Expanded G1 with Alternity? He wipes Frieza with no issue. It's pretty much a True Form Darkseid situation again.
I'm somewhat interested to see how they're redoing the DB cosmology to be even bigger now
It feels like something is up given how evasive they're being with answering "what exactly do you mean by Megatron," DBS scaling changing (yet again) to make them more powerful, and Blackza being included.
If this was just against like, Sunbow pew pew Megatron, why swank Frieza so much? Namek Frieza could dumpster Megatron. This is either going to be a SUGOI DRAGON BALL SO STRONG match to placate dragon ballers upset over the losing streak or there's a curveball coming.
They said it was mainly G1 Megs right? Not a composite version?
they're probably just keeping their cards close to their chest so that people actually discuss the matchup. the inclusion/exclusion of alternity means the outcome is basically foregone either way and everyone knows it, so why spoil it 2 weeks out?
So how would DC and Marvel do with each others big cosmic events? How would the Pre-Crisis DC deal with the Incursions and the Beyonders (and I guess throw in GK Doom if you want), or even just Infinity Gauntlet Thanos, while Marvel dealt with the Crisis on Infinite Earths and idk Parallax?
>Incursions
Superman solved them before Hickman even started his writing career through the power of vibrations.
>Beyonders
Given how Doom beat them, they fold to a Flash+Booster Gold crossover where they imprison them in hypertime.
>IG
Very simple. Flash/Green Lantern ports Thanos to another universe while he's doing his "I'll cut my omniscience to make it interesting" bit. The Marvel heroes would have beaten him when he pulled that and only lost because Doom had to pull a team kill in the middle of the fight because he, of course, wanted to SUCC Thanos.
>COIE
Assuming they get a Monitor to help them. Because you kind of need a tip off to avoid being blindsided by the anti matter wave. If a Monitor/Uatu/Eternity/Whoever tips them off, then they just got to build the protective vibrational doohickeys to survive. EZ PZ with Reed and Pym.
After that, they got to stop AM from going to the dawn of time. Amping up the Phoenix like the wizards amped up the Specter would be their best bet here since the Phoenix exists at the dawn of time.
After that, they got to kill AM and shut down his anti matter universe. This is actually the hardest part since they don't have the magic muscle to pull a shadow man bomb or Kal-L or Darkseid or a Flash secretly helping them. They should still be able to pull it off, it's just going to cost them more.
>Parallax
Depends on how this is set up. Did a Dr. Spectrum on some universe have a nervous breakdown and absorbed the power of other Dr. Spectrums until he reached Hal levels? Did Hal teleport into Marvel and go "I must remake this all in green because COAST CITY."
This might actually be one they can't win, as Hal wasn't as loud or evident as other threats (remember, everyone thought Extant was behind it all until the very end) while being just as deadly. And he technically won, it's just that his creation got cucked from him by the Specter and Damage.
is it possible to make a diagram that could reduce and simplify DC's cosmology structure in an honest and author accurate way?
Speaking of, where are the Dark Multiverse and Anti-Matter Multiverse in regards to DC cosmology? Are they both beneath the main multiverse? Is there a dark anti-matter universe or vice versa?
Dark Multiverse is literally the map flipped over. I'm not kidding. That's how Snyder wrote it.
Is it dumb? Yes it fricking is. But that's what he wrote.
>Anti-Matter multiverse
It was always technically just another "universe," albeit one that grew in power and "size" thanks to the actions of the Anti-Monitor. Given that every universe post Zero Hour is equal in "size" to the pre-Crisis multiverse, you can get away with drawing in a circle in the orrery with the Anti-Montior's head on it.
Well, that's the thing.
Transformers cosmology uses "streams" which group together universes by "continuity families." It's a neat setup that Marvel and DC really should adopt. For instance all the various "Fawcett Earths" under the Transformers categorization methods would be "Batson Earths." Batson 1 would be pre-crisis Earth-S, Batson 2 would be the Shazam live action series, Batson 3 would be Thunderworld, Batson 4 would be Jeff Smith's Monster Society of Evil, etc, etc.
G1 universes are Primax.
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Primax
Given much G1 shit there is in Transformers, Primax is sub-divided.
Primax Alpha worlds are worlds based on the G1 cartoon. Primax Beta are worlds based on G1 products. Primax Gamma are worlds based on G1 comics. The US, UK, and IDW comics, for instance, are all in the Primax Gamma subcluster.
That means Primax 984 is the same world as Marvel's 616, don't try to think about it too much.
Death Battle composited Primax universes already in Optimus vs Gundam. The reactor durability feat was from IDW. The rang feat was from the Sunbow cartoon. Those are separate Primax universes.
So don't say what I'm about to tell you is unprecedented.
The Megatron Alternity started with the Megatron of Primax Beta 903. BT World. The World of Binaltech.
He mind controlled a multiverse time eater that exists to mercy kill worlds ravaged by their Unicrons into making him a higher dimensional Megatron that exists in psychic gestalt report with EVERY Megatron in the multiverse.
The Bayverse Megs. The Sunbow Megs. The Transformers Devastation Megs. Every single Megs was apart of his Alternity superconscious, even the Megatron from the universe where Transformers turn into shoes. Even the Megs from Kiss Players.
Using Alternity Megs in this fight is MORE CORRECT than what Death Battle did in Optimus vs Gundam. IDW and Sunbow are separate individuals. Alternity is a Primax (and more) gestalt that actually exists.
There is no good argument Death Battle can make for excluding Alternity Megs under their own rules besides "We think it's time Frieza won so we're going to have him duck the stronger version of his opponent."
Hey, tripgay, what do you think of Superman vs Optimus under the same circumstances?
Maxwank Superman wins because no limits, heroic archetype, retcon proof, mogs Manhattan, etc etc.
Depends on what you mean by that.
>Thought Robot vs Alternity Optimus
Thought Robot wins because he can strike at every Optimus at once.by punching the bleed.
>Superman vs Alternity Optimus
Superman loses because all Optimus needs to do is have a group of Optimus Primes scan Superman for weaknesses while the others fight him. Superman wins the battle, loses the war as an Optimus made of kryptonite and red sun radiation comes out of nowhere to run him over.
>Superman's hypertime army (AC 1000) vs Alternity Optimus
Superman's hyperitme army wins because he can match each Optimus to a Superman and several Supermen are super scientists that can BS up an Alternity hacker while the others are fighting.
>Otto says Superman loses
Holy frick...Friezabros...are we going to get chopped up by Nissan Megatron?
>Superman loses
>OTTO says Superman loses
Jesus Christ how powerful are these Transformers?
Superman vs Optimus Prime,
might as well put that in the next ballot,
Kekaroo
What about PRIME TIME (Forma de Secret Origin)?
Prime Time probably wins through retcon punches. They should have enough AOE to get the whole Alternity.
>Character has enough control to not turn a person into paste
vs
>Character worried that he could hurt someone if he cut loose with his multiverse breaking cosmic mythology strength
You'd be scared shitless too if you were one muscle twitch away from floating in a debris field.
So he always takes precaution in doing anything dangerous except for the times where he apparently can just perfectly control it. Methinks writers are hacks.
This sounds like a good time and a fun matchup I have to say, especially that last one
That's literally what Morrison's map was. It was a beautiful blend of Vertigo, Wildstorm, classic DC, and even Fawcett cosmology.
>But what about post-Multiversity shit?
Goddamn it.
It's best to ignore that shit. But if you had to do something with it, you mostly draw on the Monitor void. You draw a bunch of moronic Master Hands swimming in it and draw one half black and one half white and draw lines from them going to the "good" and "evil" areas of the God Sphere.
Dark Multiverse is, and I'm not making it up, just the over side of the map but instead of the rock of eternity in the center it's a stupid anvil of cosmic creation and Saint Seiya powerups.
Put up a little sign in the corner of the orrery that says "Infinite now and conflated with hypertime worlds lol idk."
There, that's the post-Morrison map. Literally the Morrison map but morons doodled on it.
>"I'll cut my omniscience to make it interesting"
would he pull this to begin with? There's no mistress death in DC so he wouldn't be trying to impress her (then again, it also defeats the purpose of him getting the IG in the first place).
>Parallax
I was more so intending it to be Hal, but the Dr. Spectrum thing is also interesting
There's Death of the Endless, who is a better waifu.
>Thanos learns the power of a real goth waifu
Hal was smart enough to systemically kill off anyone that could stop him from the shadows while continually powering up. That's actually easier for him to do in Marvel given how Defenders made it so that fights at the tip-top of creation rely on storybook logic. A guy with max stats in creativity, will, and embodying the traits of he-who-stole-fire-from-the-gods is going to absolutely b***hslap the powers that be under Defenders rules.
Look how much mileage Doom gets out of his siphon. Now imagine Doom but he can move anywhere and anywhen he wants and no one knows who the frick he is.
Hal is going to eat every single goddamn Power and Force in Marvel, and there's a shit ton of them. When he's ready to remake Marvel he's going to look like some sort of Starlin abomination with Galactus' helmet and an armor made out of infinity gems. His ring will shoot Kirby dots.
If Hal didn't keep everyone alive at the dawn of time to show them his awesome new creation and how he was totally right about everything and COAST CITY and just killed them, he would have won. That's probably what's going to make Marvel lose. Hal has no emotional attachment to these people. He's not going to let Hawkeye shoot him like he let Ollie. He's probably going to think of them as shallow copies of the people he actually respects.
Wrong, he forgot about one thing: Disney money
I think it would be good if they toned down the DBS wank but still made Freeza win. A new era of moderate wank would be the best.
Even as a DBS gay myself, there's no way Freezy pop is winning this lmao,
If Alternity is what it sounds like lmao, phew that's tough
I'm rooting for him since Dragon Ball is my damn childhood. I think be has a shot.
They have to let him win this, the DBZ lose streak shouldn't have been this long lol
I agree.
No, frick gayon gay whiners.
lol frick you,
DBZ is the only reason why fights you see on DB are thematic, otherwise they'd look like shit
Ok I ask.... what's G1?
Also an adult Kiwi low diffs a brown rat. Even a weasel don't mess with these guys when their adults.
G1 is the original timeline transformers, so like original cartoon and movie
also you're tripping if you don't think rats can't get big as shit
Kiwis mog rats
This. Adult Kiwis are still massive birds with strong kicks. They're too much for rats, cats and weasels.
I can't wait to see what Vegeta's next big L is.
I'm going to have so much fun arguing for Cervantes in the next episode.
>BBgays on Yates and Death battle discord keep simping for bootleg Dante vs FF knockoff heroine
Frickers clapping like a moronic seal, unleash the Snakebeast on somebody
I don't think you'd ever recover when Death Battle inevitable gives that W to Fate, Terumibro.
>Saber loses 98% of her matchups
>Gilgamesh is either a doom punching bag or loses to FFXIV Gilgamesh
>Kirei maybe goes over
>Shirou's only W is against hyde, he fricking dies on anything else
>Goetia is either a Zamasu or Terumi victim
>Rin is either beats up sakura or is a goddamn fairy tail victim of all things
The level of Ls for Nasushit is almost unholy
Fate has the power of flowery writing and shit word authors that just cannot help but overwank their characters.
Death Battle LOVES that sort of shit.
Just about every Japanese Origin Servant is some sort of perfect god ultimate mary sue fighter because they're written by a woman who can only write sues.
The thing with Fate is that whenever Nasu is directly involved, power levels are actually FAIRLY restricted, speed feats are like, mach 1 during a charge, or one of the most powerful characters ever fought by the FGO crew was MACH 5 (Melusine in Albion mode)
But then you've got the other wank writers that have shit like multiverses being busted or infinite speed or timestop level speed.
Fate is slowly becoming Japanese Capeshit in that there so many fricking authors working on it.
Basically, the only thing that is holding Fate characters back from being hyper ultra-gabilliongigaversal is the fact that Nasu is still technically holding the reins and despite everything, he actually does tend to keep his wank on the lower scale if he's writing by himself.
Things only get fricked up when he starts working with other people, basically. That's why the Moon Cell has like 12 Dimensions and can be used to destroy the multiverse or whatever the frick.
Goetia's attempt to destroy the Multiverse was occuring concurrently with other fricking stories.
It's like if COIE was running and for whatever reason, there was like, a fricking Starfire comic that deliberately referenced that COIE was currently occuring and then ignored it completely.
So it's the red skies?
It's sort of like Red Skies if instead of the skies being red, everyone was just incinerated instantly. So not really, it's worse.
Because a core part of FGO's plot for part 1 is that aside from 7 specific points in history, all of human history has been erased backwards, effectively erasing the multiverse.
However, in Fate/Strange Fake, one of the characters actually steals something through time from a character in one of those specific points in history (A singularity)
The character that stole the item in question (It was more like a magic summon) was not in one of these singularities.
Yet they still managed to steal it.
Despite as per the plot of FGO, not even existing as a result of history having been burned backwards, thereby destroying every potential timeline or alternate universe..
Somehow.
It would actually be more like if Jimmy Olsen from one of the universes the Anti-Monitor destroyed suddenly just took... I don't know, the H-Dial, from the current existing universe with no explanation.
This franchise is making millions, why can't Nasu just hire a loremaster?
>making millions
Billions, actually.
FGO alone has over its lifetime pulled in $5,533,800,000.
I fricking hate gachapigs so much, bros.
As for why Nasu can't use this money to
>1) make a good game
>2) make a good story
>3) make a good anything
I can't tell you. Laziness?
He recently remade Tsukihime, the first VN entry into his own universe and he retconned lore that HE HIMSELF WROTE. (He also didn't include 4 of the 6 promised routes the game was meant to have)
He's been promising part 2 and 3 of Mahoyo for over a decade now.
Nasu is such an inconsistent hack of a writer that when it came time for him to write his big entry of FGO's part 2, he originally decided that the divergence point for where this would happen would be 600AD, which is around the time of Camelot in Fate's Lore. But then he decided he didn't like that, and despite it already being established in the game as diverging at 600AD, it actually diverged around 12000BC instead. Because he wanted to tell another story about fairies and shit. Artoria was meant to show up as Grand Saber, but then like, that got changed too, but she already had her design, so she just uses a sword for no reason despite being a Caster. So she just gets a random unexplained Super Form at the end of the story so as not to waste the design.
TLDR, I hate Gacha. I hate FGO. Hate. Hate. Hate.
man what the frick happened to nasu
I wouldn't trust anyone else to handle my lore if it were so complex
Nasu can't fricking handle it by himself either
Nah, Nasu doesn't give a frick. He'll just about let anybody do anything and randomly make changes to the plot that he decided on a whim.
Like for example, did you know that originally, the Fate Timeline and the Tsukihime Timeline actually ran along in the same world, consecutively? As in Fate/Stay Night and Tsukihime took place in the same world?
But then, arbitrarily, and despite one of the writers working for Nasu actually writing a story in which elements from both stories played a heavy part in his story, Nasu just decides "Oh, they're in different worlds entirely... except that one story, that one isn't."
This outright fricking blindsided everyone there.
People outright loathe one of the writers for FGO and Fate/Extella, a b***h called Sakurai. She's the reason why Musashi Miyamoto has "Muh universe cutting sword strike" where in the part of FGO she got to write, she had her Mary Sue show up in Olympus, clashing with the theming horribly, and then valiantly sacrifice herself in order to defeat the Primordial God Chaos, who was a cross between a Dyson Sphere and the Eye of Sauron.
She's the one who spends about 8 paragraphs wanking about how singular and perfect everyone's sword strikes are, and she's the one who has characters repeat what they say about 4 times.
In short, Japanese Bendis (Female)
Japs hate her too. Position acquired through Nepotism.
>b***h called Sakurai
I have also seen this name lamented over from casual glances at Cinemaphile threads, what other shit has she done
Right, well you need to understand a few things about Sakurai, one, she can write very few characters, so she'll just morph existing characters into archetypes she likes.
(Samson as Berserker in the most recent game she wrote, Samurai Remnant, really wants to apologize to Delilah, because that's what Sakurai likes to write even though it makes no fricking sense for the Biblical Samon to want to apologize to that c**t.)
Two, she plays EXTREME favorites with the characters she likes and tosses characters she dislikes aside without a moment of hesitation.
(She likes Nero (female), so the Rome singularity in VERY early FGO was a pure Nero wankfest. To the point where even Boudica fricking has this weird love for Nero.) (Same with Musashi Miyamoto (Female) constantly getting wanked)
Three, immensely clunky and overexplained wordiness about mundane bullshit and an infinite desire to endlessly repeat herself when writing.
See Picrelated.
Pretty sure Strange Fake is older than FGO, I don't think they are supposed to be related to each other.
Nope, the Ishtar in Fate/Strange Fake SPECIFICALLY steals Gugulanna from the Ishtar of Fate/Grand Order. That's why the Ishtar of Fate/Grand Order doesn't have access to it.
This is outright stated.
>Freeza vs Megatron
Becausee......?
I don't see the connection
Their both bad guys with golden and black form from space
That Rock Spike? Multiverse tier.
I was writing a different post, have this bad habit of having too many tabs for the same thread in the same post and that happens.
Yeah, multiverse rock that's how we roll in this b***h ass town.
I hate to fricking admit that I might be going senile. I keep forgetting what I have in cache in my posts.
Here's the pic
There really isn't one.
"Both alien conquerors" is such a goddamn stretch and is code for "Mongol/Darksied would have turned Frieza inside out, so he's fighting the guy that turns into a gun."
That's because Superman was exploding gas station during Death of Superman. Post-Crisis was weak until writers started giving him his balls back.
Yeah, Frieza's worse. He's a real estate shark
We literally never seen him do any real estate. Which is a shame, really, because it would've improved the series.
Toriyama himself directly stated that he based Frieza on Real Estate Speculators during the economy bubble at the time, regarding them as the worst kind of people. The most direct statements we get on Frieza's business come from Raditz and in Super, though the games likewise back up this notion
essentially he's manga Zillow
This was an interesting point of lore I wish the writers elaborated on.
There are enough races in search of a planet that there's a market for it. That has some dark implications for Dragon Ball's universe. Most people live in spaceships.
That's kind of the joke. DB's whole verse is fricked, but Goku doesn't care cuz strong
It's like those Lovecraft stories where they just flamethrower the monster
Isn't there a pretty good chance that Megatron is going to turn Freiza inside out anyways
If non Alternity G1 Megs kills Frieza I will have a LOT of questions.
He shouldn't be able to match up to Namek Frieza let alone the freak Frieza is now.
Who should she fight
the spider b***h from Worm
Skitter from Worm for max funsies
>Worm.
I stand with Otto when I say this.
No.
Frick giving Worm any recognition. It doesn't fricking deserve any.
Neither does Miraculous Ladybug because it's an awful show with formulaic monster of the week bullshit and a neverending "will they or won't they" romance that torture to sit through, which makes them perfect for each other
>because it's an awful show with formulaic monster of the week bullshit and a neverending "will they or won't they" romance
This your first cartoon/anime/kids show or something?
No, which is how I know Miraculous sucks because it's tepid tripe
Skitter is also a kid, they're both teenage girls
Also Marinette is as child and nobody except Hal 'loser' Jordan would ever hurt a kid.
Why? Did worm shit in your cereal?
It is uniquely horrible.
Never read it
why
Perfect storm of being poorly written, overhyped, and overwanked on battle boards. It's awful. I just want Wormgays to die.
Spider-man
Nah, Spider-Man should fight Kamen Rider Ichigo for the gene modified bug hero fight
does he win that? if not, i don't want it.
Spider-Man probably wins, his ceiling is higher and Spider Sense is busted
Do both of these guys even have better fights?
>too scared to have Megatron fight Jiren the Gray
Decepticons? Cowards.
Jiren the gay
>Megatron vs Jiren
why?
They just had Jean Grey in an episode. Wtf are you talking about?
Servants will always job because all you gotta do is kill the master.
>alternity megs will win
>When Otto already admitted frieza needs to destroy some quadrillion universes
>They won't swank frieza.
They'd need some impressive multipliers to do so, quadrillion is 15 zeroes and last I saw Vegeta had 5 or 6
Lets see what we can get if we go full moronic scalechain.
Freeza Black is >>>>>> True UI Goku who is >>>>>> Susanoo MUI Goku who is >>>>>>> MUI Goku who is >>>>> UI Goku who is >>>>> ToP MUI Goku who is >>>>> ToP UI Goku who is >>>>>>> Top Kaioken*20 Blue Goku who is >>>>>> ToP Blue Goku who is >>>>>> Goku Black Arc Blue Goku who is >>>>> Original Kaioken *10 Blue Goku.
But you could probably scale it even more moronic.
1. Quadrillion.
2. It was --more than-- a quadrillion.
3. The I word has been used to describe the Transformers multiverse.
4. Several worlds are Marvel and Star Wars universes, so Frieza would have to destroy Marvel and Star Wars as well.
5. He'd have to do this all while an infinite army of Megatrons are attacking him throughout space and time.
Apparently they’re considering a dragon ball macrocosm 60 universes each so with their new calcs would put Frieza’s AP over Thors
And above XenO too. ffs
Where'd you hear that, anon?
Does it reach 15 zeros? Thor was at 6 zeros
Thor had to be more, Vegeta was the 6 zeros range
Nvm, guess I misremembered
Their scaling makes no sense,
Transformers gays were be foaming at the mouth if Freezer somehow wins
What? You got any source? I really want to know now.
1. Does that put Vegeta over Thor in the math?
2. How did they get 60 universes per universe?
>2. How did they get 60 universes per universe?
They put in more universes, that's more universe per universe
Nope. If their actually using 60 uni at God like I the ep, it becomes 60(god)x50(blue)x20(blue evo)x20(ego)=1,200,000 uni. Still half of what they had Thor. It still doesn't make sense for me since they've kept reinstating that God became their base, but if that's the case then actual God should be much stronger since it's still a form, otherwise speed and power increases from it don't make sense like when Goku used it against Dyspo
Nah, if they use those multipliers and then give Freeza x2 because he onebanged Goku and Vegeta that brings him to 2.4 million, slightly above Vegeta.
Sure, though technically it should be more than that since Gas was the strongest *mortal* in the universe at the time, which should include Broly, which DB said even UE Vegeta should have been weaker than (it's autistic I know), and Frieza was in another dimension so he just didn't count I guess
LEAVE FRIEZA TO ME
I have a feeling they're hiding something for frieza that would allow him to beat alternity Megatron based on ultra's statement of Dragonball being far stronger than they were before.
more like they're hiding something for Megatron, for previous composite characters they lost off everything being used yet for Megatron it's nothing besides obvious jokes
Worm is what we like to call ""Fan"fic bait."
Same as RWBY.
These are stories so uniquely horrible and which leave such a bad taste in your mouth that a lot of people who read it are inspired to pick up a pen (or I suppose a keyboard) and try to put right what they think went wrong.
RWBY isn't "Horrible" in my eyes. Horrible is something like Gen:lock
Thorbros, quick, bust out greater speedfeats. and OH GOD WOLVERINE SAMA NO AIEEEEEEEEEEE
>How many Universes you can destroy are becoming Powerlevels for homosexuals, complete with that one homosexual in the corner going "NUH-UH MY MULTIVERSE HAS AN INFINITY UNIVERSES"
It all comes back to this.
If we're being logical though, we only know and understand transformers from the michael bay movies the comics and everything is moronic and there isn't a consistent feat or comic where said character kills everyone, I just think its stupid really,
with Broly we know he could've destroyed the planet if we wanted based off animation and clips, with Frieza we don't even know his full potential, maybe he's moronicly fast, but with the current Akio and Shuishea battle we don't even know if the manga will continue to be canon, the anime ended a while ago and we haven't heard a peep from Toriyama either,
Think about it, Frieza got to blue goku's level in 4 months, he didn't really train since he was in hell, and even after TOP,
after 10 years of training do the math, maybe he's stronger than/strong as Zeno??? he even intending he wasn't trying to hurt/kill Goku and Vegeta with the punches, he just wanted to say hi,
Damn freezy pop got moves
>Stronger than Zeno
Never going to happen, and it's doubtful anyone is going to reach Beerus until the very end of the show, and even then only maybe.
Dragon Ball was cutting its universes to keep their Swankers from ODing.
Im just wishcasting, but MAYBE just slightly there to Beerus, they make it unclear on Beerus's powerlevel, he's just retconed to always being stronger,
If they were realistic I think Frieza would delete Beerus rn,
Frieza got stronger than Goku in 4 months with 10+ years of training,
It took Goku 7+ years to achieve SSJ3
Frieza should be stronger than all the gods of destruction by DBZ's own logic
Saint Seiya is too much imo, I'd prefer Gohan vs End of Series Mark, I think it'd be a tighter fight, cause of his Durability and regen
Mark literally instantly dies from Gohan looking at him.
What fricking Regen, bro, it takes him weeks to regen wounds when he doesn't have his wife in his pocket? All Viltrumites have is that they can take a hell of a beating before dying.
It's the biggest stomp Death Battle would've ever had.
I just don't want DBZ to lose again Bro, I'd prefer them use Toriko if they want to do another shounen shit MU if you hate Gohan vs Mark that much though then we can go with Superboy Prime
Seiya has people that can destroy Universes in one punch, I don't know how the anyone can beat that,
They should just feed Shazam/DC to Seiya Pegasus/Koga, makes more sense,
I told the other anon Gohan vs Superboy Prime then
A-anon... do you know who Superboy Prime IS?
I don't care enough to find his feats tbh,
He's literally the stronger version of Superman that comes from the Real World who shits all over normal Superman and can rewrite the entire multiverse with his punches alone.
He would no-diff Gohan just as easily as Gohan no-diffs Mark.
You want NORMAL Superboy. Not Superboy Prime.
Who could Gohan even fight from Seiya? The only thematic opponents are ones in Omega, and I'm pretty sure no one wants to see Gohan vs Pegasus Kouga.
Unironically you should all engage in sexual activities. You have to experience your penis' power level before you die..
>Get BTFO
>"Y-your le virgin"
Bro, I'm on disability and have fricked escorts. Let me be at peace in the threads I like.
Anyone with a college degree could destroy Saber
Why do people want Gohan vs Mark when Gohan will inevitably be made to be equal to 53205320434 Universes or something thanks to Beast?
This. Just put him against Boruto and use Naruto multipliers and dimensional tiering to even things out.
I only don't like it cause Omni Man and Mark are just barely super saiyan level, just give the homie a Saint Seiya MU and call it a day
>Just barely Super Saiyan Level
>Super Saiyan Level
Motherfricker are you out of your MIND? They're barely Saiyan Saga Vegeta leve, if that!
>They're barely Saiyan Saga Vegeta level, if that!
Lol just not true at all, SSJ1 or SSJ2 is roughly fair,
what are some cosmology diagrams