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Who's the guy on the left.
Belos, the main bad guy from The Owl House. He can beat up teenagers pretty well, but a guy with a gun would probably kill him.
>He can beat up teenagers pretty well, but a guy with a gun would probably kill him.
Lich jobbed to a sweater. Seems like a glass cannon fight.
>Seems like a glass cannon fight.
Litch is vulnerable to good mojo, Belos is vulnerable to violence. Belos is a high-tier butthole, while the litch has no shortage of violence.
Anon, the Lich was literally beaten and then placed in tree resin where he physically could not move, Belos just uses tree magic and wins
What context do we have?
That’s literally the context. Billy punched him and trapped him in tree resin
lich jobbed to subversion (universal-tier force capable of destroying entire settings)
So like Harry Potter
>a guy with a gun would probably kill him.
He'd literally turn into magic goo and teleport behind you as soon as you pull a gun on him.
>Doesn’t know Belos croaked
Belos loses so hard it's not even funny. He loses to any notable magic user ever. Fricking Skeletor and Mumm-Ra would instantly destroy him.
I don't remember that part of AT, but the dude got out of any defeat until he was hit with pure good goo. The Lich also just can't die, his last appearance had him frick over literal death, and he wasn't even destroyed, just thrown away for a while. Lich wins any death battle on the counts that he cannot die.
>I don't remember that part of AT, but the dude got out of any defeat until he was hit with pure good goo. The Lich also just can't die, his last appearance had him frick over literal death, and he wasn't even destroyed, just thrown away for a while. Lich wins any death battle on the counts that he cannot die.
Then you must be a speed watcher because it’s literally his first episode. He can’t overpower Belos or beat him mentally, meaning Belos and about 90% of any other cartoon characters beat him. Also the Lich had died before, other versions of him just show up. It’s like saying Jerry from Rick and Morty can’t die just because he’s replaced
moron
Sans Undertale
>beat the chair homie SoHo or Tribeca, three hoes, trifecta
>Dope money, hope money, Hublot, my watch better
>My pen's better, you don't write, trendsetter, you clone-like
>Pay homage or K's vomit, ungrateful homies, I don't like
Better show, better humor, better characters, better feats.
This battle only goes one of two ways.
Dexter completely fricking stomps. Or Deedee shows up halfway through and mogs both Jimmy and Dexter.
Because Dexter's accomplishments piss all over Jimmy. Jimmy's "Brain blasts" are Dexter's default.
I need some evidence
Dexter has a highly advanced computer AI and capacity for a robot army.
A plethora of wacky situational inventions from weapons to battle suits to a fricking high five death machine.
Robo-Dexo 2000
Robo-Dexo 3000
The fricking Neurotomic Protocore
And if all else fails, Dexter has Monkey. Monkey is technically owned by Dexter, and thus counts as a pet the way Goddard does and can thus be used if Goddard is, as Jimmy considers Goddard a pet as well. Jimmy isn't doing a fricking thing against Monkey.
Jimmy in a few minutes was able to create a mech that could compete with Mr. Crocker with the full armory of fairy world, with just two wands providing enough power to destroy two entire different universes. Jimmy literally made a time machine in the cretaceous period with sticks, stones, and mud, and he’s way faster than Dexter with one shot options (such as the cheese ray).
Jimmy’s just better at improvising, can blitz Dexter, and can one shot him. Dexter can’t do anything. Robo-Dexo 3000? Gets turned into cheese. Monkey? Gets turned into cheese.
Not that anon; the Wands can only destroy universes by making bombs to my recollection
Not necessarily.
>grow to the size of a planet
That’s making Dexter an infinitely bigger target. Instantly one shot by Cheese Ray.
Jimmy grew to the size of a planet in his debut movie. Any there was that episode where it showed he still had access to the n men powers. The fact that they got mixed up but still affected his friends, means he's not limited to only using his hulk/thing hybird form.
Dexter also can grow to the size of a planet like he did in the first movie and can use any powers of the N-Men.
>dexter
Whoops I meant Jimmy
>Monkey? Gets turned into cheese.
Monkey can fly at Superman and Silver Surfer speeds.
Jimmy isn't turning shit into shit.
Monkey was getting wrecked by a macho man character who defeated major glory and all his crew. He just stopped out of pity. Meanwhile jimmy takes on psychos like calamitus and the junkman as regular villains. Jimmy's N-men form could take out monkey. Or hell, take special girl's powers and match him till you transport him into the ultralord video game.
And you gotta remember, Jimmy can access other dimensions. Just like in that episode where he became a magician to impress his crush. He's a lot more broken than you think.
Jimmy can travel and react to MFTL+ speed. Dude was going to hyperspace with no helmet(I assume oxygen field).
Cheese gun, time travel, planet level attacks(Shrink Ray/Evil Jimmy scaling). Dexter have loss to similar people before, such as the many forms of Mandark. Also he has the Hypercube and understanding of how fairies work, he can go to the FOP universe and snag some Anti-fairy or Fairies with his standard equipment he has on Goddard. Dexter is way out his element.
Nope. Dexter does have better mechs and stuff for a fight, but Jimmy is leagues and beyond smarter than him.
Within 30 minutes he made a functional time remote that could pause/rewind/fast forward/alter time. And this was in the fricking Jurassic era with NONE of his lab materials or Goddard for assistance.
Or how about the time he turned amusement park rides into spacecraft easily piloted by kids. Which took a few hours with them helping on construction.
Said spacecraft also managed to reach another universe within a day. Which put them at BILLIONS of times ftl.
Or how about the Jimmy/Timmy power hour (which is canon btw) confirming that Jimmy is the smartest person in the entire Nickelodeon multiverse?
Dexter is a moron compared to the Neutron.
Isn't the Litch immortal and has his conscious split through a multiverse?
Only his arm I think.
And he doesn't scale to his own arm?
No he just has other versions of himself exist
Bring me Superman
theme? seems more like he's for that Goku looking guy from DQ
It is more thematically relevant if you know that superman being a meta concept of hope as stated by Manhattan.
Like implied by the blue guy, some form of superman will appear as a symbol of hope, just like Warrior of Light is to the world of FF.
But to be honest, WoL is just the ultimate counter to superman.
>But to be honest, WoL is just the ultimate counter to superman.
Final Fantasy? Building level, Chaos’s Ultimate attack was a sub palace level tornado
Even if it was building level, WoL will just come back stronger than before until he becomes either too sttrong for Supes to handle or too fast to hax him to death before he can be killed again.
>Even if it was building level, WoL will just come back stronger than before until he becomes either too sttrong for Supes to handle or too fast to hax him to death before he can be killed again.
Just punch him into unconsciousness
I mean, is that a win condition?
WoL can resist sleep spells, so...
also, since supes has no way to incap permanently that is not killing, WoL will just wake up eventually and fight again
literally part of the lore.
WoL gets killed over and over until he suceeds.
>WoL can resist sleep spells, so...
>also, since supes has no way to incap permanently that is not killing, WoL will just wake up eventually and fight again
Beat him into a coma
again, he will eventually die of old age and be reborn
Yeah that’s sorta irrelevant
Building level
Super senses
cope
*8bit sprite victory dance*
this is again, assuming WoL is not already stronger than superman and not fast enough to do any of his magic and magic hax clark to death
Also, he is a master martial artist and swordsman, so he outskills as well in a 1v1
also, supes has no way to figure out a way to null the resurrection by either killing Cosmos or all the crystals that keep the warriors of Light alive thru the loops of death and rebirth.
Even WoL doesn't know where his resurrection comes from, so Clark won't be able to i dunno, torture the answer out of him or read his mind to know.
Destroying random infinite multiverses with the hope that one of them will result in the permanent death of a guy that just keeps being reborn is extremely out of character for even a bloodlusted clark.
Nope Superman wins
concession accepted
victory achieved
Superman just scales higher. His heatvision and strength can affect souls.
Thing is, the plot would shift to make sure Superman can win. The Metaverse itself demands hope to exist and for him to win in order to keep existing.
So which is it? Plot vs Plot?
So what if the SCP shit collided with him?
Again. Plot vs Plot.
Depend on which moron is writing the fight.
but supermans canonical plot armor only works in canon
>Sasuke
Can’t even beat Zoro
doesn't need to to beat superman
what does he need?
NLF
Belos should fight Toofee since they're actually thematic and he doesn't instantly die due to death hax.
Finn VS Mordecai
Goku Black vs Anti-Pops is the fight that should've happened.
I'd much rather see those two have a regular bout instead of a DB. In a normal fight, Mordecai wouldn't attempt to blow away Finn's upper body within the first second, and the two could probably be friends if they don't kill each other.
>cartoon fights
None at all.
>none a-
nope
>Steven Universe vs Star Butterfly exists
Red skull vs cobra commander
Excellent
Rank all the versions of pop fiction God (Yahweh/YHVH) from weakest to strongest GO
Aladdin vs Prince Philip vs The Beast vs Li Shang
Hercules vs Maui
Metro Man vs Mr Incredible
Gru vs Mega Mind
Li shang. More war and combat experience. Probably has a superior sword style to any of those 3. Beast relays on strength alone and almost got killed by Gaston. Philip killed dragon Maleficent on his own, but has no other known fight experience. Aladdin beat djinn Jafar, but his sword skills are probably self taught from being poor. He may have not faced any monsters, but shang is skilled enough to train and lead other soldiers.
Bill Cipher vs Cosmic Ultron maybe
Cosmic Ultron is for Heaven Ascended DIO
Bill is for getting raped by an MLP character
W-why is he pointing at me?
Spidey only had that power for half an issue.
So we all know Silver is going to die but how does their fight actually start? I actually do enjoy the tiny bits of plot they put into these encounters.
>TIME FOR YOU TO DISAPPEAR, IBLIS TRIGGER!
you are the IBLISH neeGer your ASS will DESTROY THE WORLD
I'm pretty sure the general consensus here is that Silver BTFO's Trunks hard if they don't give him a fully charged Keysword, which can still be taken away.
>but how does their fight actually start
I'd assume Silver is going to meet Trunks as he's traveling through time, in order to stop him from fricking things up more than he already has. He'll probably have him pull over in some random place in history, and then Trunks will attack since he'll assume that Silver is some new android.
I'm pretty sure most people here agree Silver will win
I don't. All I've seen him job against that guy he's supposed to scale to.
He beat Solaris.
With the help of Sonic and Shadow.
Hey to be fair, Trunks needed an entire planet's worth of power just to harm Zamasu. Both him and Silver are more or less lacking in feats, and are rather useless on their own if they don't have scaling.
And you think Trunks doesn't? Heroes Trunks literally only has SSG scaling and that's about it. Silver at least can be genuinely argued for multiversal due to Solaris and can potentially be given Enerjak/Mogul scaling.
The general consensus is that it would take them pretty much giving Silver zero scaling at all + fully charged Keysword (and ignoring it only works on demons) + ignoring the fact that Heroes Trunks could get paradoxes out of existence literally by any kind of timeline alteration in order for Trunks to get a win.
Nah, generally speaking Archie Silver has the edge. Even ignoring everything else, they will most likely just scale them to similar power and then Silver gets the win via versatility and easier time frickery
>Trunks and Silver investigate temporal anomaly
>This anomaly was actually just Zoom VS Zamasu
>When they arrive everything is fricked
>They assume the other did it and fight.
Too clever. Would probably just be I FOUND YOU IBLIS TRIGGER!
nah it's probably the opposite with Trunks antagonising Silver since he's a time cop and Silver is a time traveler
Fricking Microsoft taking 1000 years to develop a new Fable game with Jack of Blades in it. He's cucked out of a Death Battle episode for this fact alone.
Was Jack of bladess strong? i remember killing him like a b***h in 2 strikes.
Next kaiju battle when?
Never
I really want the Godzilla Ripoff battle royale to happen, mostly because it could lead to some of the most memorable shit in the history of VS debates
>Gomora wipes most the contenders in a single AOE
Looks like a new 'cado just dropped.
Gomora isn't really a Godzilla ripoff IMO. He's a bit too distinctive and wasn't trying to cash in at all.
Oh, and he came from someone else's series
hopefully soon
DB should drop the pretence of thematics, turn into a tournament bracket and be forced to commit to their own calcs and verdicts so you don't get weird shit like Vegeta > Broly (manga), Broly > Hulk and Thor > Vegeta even though Hulk and Thor are consistently near equals, and Broly specifically faught an amped itteration of Hulk that cracked Third skull and scared him shitless.
imo... Death Battle is trying to bait Penders into suying them.
>Baiting him by using a character from after he fricked off
Who's a good MU for Rob Lucci?
Cheetah
>bro what if we pit this island level character at best with a glaring weakness against someone who scales to wonder woman
kys now
Here.
Better?
Bucky probably? Or maybe even Quanxi from CSM.
I'm actually not sure. I don't even hate Cheetah as a matchup
>can move faster than human sight
>faster than bullets
>Tekkai can allow him to tank anything aside from moron strength
>rankyaku to cause thousands of blades made of air in seconds
>also now has haki, allowing him to potentially see seconds into the future, as well as armament haki
>rokougan directly attacks your innards, so any physical durability is likely null and void
None of that is doing anything to Cheetah
They have near nothing in common anyway, they don't even turn into the same kind of cat
She's hot in Hunted
Cheetah sucks too.
She's probably the worst of DC's big archenemies.
It's also unfortunate how she turns into THE worst big cat. Cheetahs are fast and that's literally it. Their bites are shit, they're small for their genus, and they have no stamina.
The real top-tier big cat is the Jaguar.
Oh by far. The fact they keep trying to shoehorn in a "WE WERE FRIENDS DIANA" backstory to make it interesting shows the rivalry has no legs to stand on. Let's be real, the appeal is seeing Wonder Woman wrestle a naked catgirl. The appeal is seeing Wonder Woman wrestle Tigra. That's it. There's some potential in the evil Indiana Jones angle but really, when's the last time Cheetah went artifact hunting? Nowadays its all MUH DIANA and WE WERE BESTIES ONCE. It's so forced and so cringe. Imagine if they tried to make Joker and Batman ex-friends.
Is Cheetah even her nemesis, most outside media seemed to shill Ares and Circe for a while.
Or we can just agree that Wondie's true enemies are necks.
It's necks.
Her being a violent turbo c**t beneath a thin veneer of benevolence and gentleness is so prevalent that she's even characterized that way in Multiversus while Batman and Superman are 10/10 for characterization.
The Rick reveal trailer had her hunting down Reindog for some ungodly reason. Her nemesis is self-control.
Cheetah and Ares share the spotlight most of the time but Ares acts more as an overarching villain akin to Darkseid or Brainiac for Superman while Cheetah is more akin to Lex Luthor as a more recurring villain.
And let me tell you, she sucks at it.
She has no good stories like the Killing Joke or The Night Gwen Stacy Died, she isn't enjoyably and eccentrically evil like Lex Luthor or Doctor Doom, she doesn't have the pure power of spite behind her like Manta or Thawne, and she isn't just plain fun to watch like Sivana.
Her most notable characteristic is that before she became a furgay she just wore a fursuit.
She doesn't have any real charisma or menace because they keep trying to slot her into the "friend turned tragically evil" role and it doesn't work. They keep trying to force hamfisted sympathy stories while writing how she eats people.
She's also empowered and beholded to a literally who OC jungle god, which strikes a sour note in the cast of divines running around in Wonder Woman stories.
An Amazon blessed by Artemis, Aphrodite, et al is arch foes with...a woman cursed by...Urzkataga...
The frick? They couldn't have even given her a real African deity?
Joker and Lex work as arches because they have charisma, menace, and resonance with their foes. Joker is a flamboyant gangster who creates gadgets out of leftover amusement park equipment and he fights against a brooding vigilante with ultra high-tech toys. Superman is the Man of Tomorrow and he fights against a man using the scientific tools of tomorrow. Superman is humble with power while Lex is covetous.
How does Cheetah resonate with Wonder Woman? Answer--she doesn't.
Ideally what they should do is position Wonder Woman as the guardian of sacred places and old artifacts and Cheetah as the despoiler. Don't have her eat people. Have her steal shit and conduct black market trades of mystical artifacts.
>they keep trying to slot her into the "friend turned tragically evil" role
Zolomon and Sinestro already do that better than her.
Hell, she's supposed to be in the top 10 fastest DC characters and Zolomon still does THAT better than her.
Didn't she snap his neck to free Superman from mind control?
Grimmjow
Is Trunks getting SSG scaling even worth it if his giant spirit sword from the actual story scales higher than SSG anyways?
No since this is Heroes Trunks and even in base he scales way above SSG scaling.
To what degree? It seems like he has pretty ambiguous scaling since he doesn't fight a lot of characters in canon for a Heroes character.
The Keysword scales higher, but without its amped state, it's basically useless. And it's less-than-useless against non-demons.
Based on? Heroes Trunks doesn't fight enough characters that you can justify scaling him beyond SSG.
The fact that Trunks can also frick Silver's time stone means they will both be stranded in that timeline. So no "death by reverse" is happening.
>Silver launches the Keysword into orbit or hides it on top of a tower
>Trunks blasts the Time Stones before Silver can use it
At that point you just have incalculable speeds vs immeasurable strength, and I think we all remember what happened to the last guy who had infinite power.
Silver is not reliant on the Time Stones for back-and-forth time travel. He travels to (and from) Light Mobius seemingly without their aid and under his own power.
Can the Justice League escape containment?
just need Plastic Man to turn into a meat grinder and they can escape anything
SCP-682 would not even die from a meat grinder. You have to kill each of its cells or it will just grow back.
Even that doesn't work in the nuttier stuff. He has been flat out nothing'd and still came back an hour later
Those stories are complete bullshit wank. The original Hateful Star SCP successfully disintegrated the fricker off of the surface of the Earth. The newer writers do not understand the anomalous trait of SCP is rapid regeneration and adaptability. Gears should have never left the termination open for others to edit since most of the people that edit it are too moronic to understand it is not a fricking god. Otherwise, the acid shit would have stopped working a long time ago.
>Those stories are complete bullshit wank
Yep, just pointing out that they are there. Most of them have bullshit wank versions.
Like isn't there a Doctor Bright who goes around mogging authors on a meta level or some other one that defeats all bad guys in all fiction after the stories end or some weird shit like that?
>or some other one that defeats all bad guys in all fiction after the stories end or some weird shit like that?
I think I know which one you're talking about. Basically, it does its best to keep villains from winning/censor stories, but is limited to what, say, the full capabilities of the United States military would be. If it can survive a nuke, they can't kill it.
Not to mention 682 is afraid of 173 and that rabbit SCP in the same termination log. Total lack of consistency. I wish Gears was more active to remove entries instead of the staff. They all just do not understand his monster.
173 is the incarnate avatar of a demon god worse than 682 and in at least one tale, pretty much fricked the earth. And the rabbit can eat literally anything.
>They all just do not understand his monster.
Gears is literally the one who first said that 682's physical form is just the equivalent of hair or growth and that its true form is not only fundamentally incomprehensible, but it's not remotely affected by anything that happens to 682 itself.
>The original Hateful Star SCP successfully disintegrated the fricker off of the surface of the Earth.
In a tale where it actually reached Earth, yes. And we have no idea whether or not that actually killed it given even back then, it had survived worse.
>The newer writers do not understand the anomalous trait of SCP is rapid regeneration and adaptability.
Anon the earliest termination logs were written over a decade ago and included such highlights as "682 laughs off fundamental constants of the universe being destroyed around it" and "grows as large as Saturn and eats the solar system". The older Leviathan stuff has been there for several years, even back when Gears was still more active. It has always been a bullshit quasi-god.
The only thing that's really changed is that it's gotten more power bloat over time. Especially with the Constants and their scaling.
>Like isn't there a Doctor Bright who goes around mogging authors on a meta level
It was multiple Doctor Brights, and they needed the SWANN Engine to do that.
>or some other one that defeats all bad guys in all fiction after the stories end or some weird shit like that?
Not sure who you're talking about.
>Even that doesn't work in the nuttier stuff. He has been flat out nothing'd and still came back an hour later
So what you're saying, is that it needs to battle Phoenix Ikki
only a Gary Stu can save us from the Mary Sues
>grows to gas giant size
>can survive and thrive in the vacuum of space
>can come back from complete physical annihilation
>is part of a heckin multiversal family tree
>contained in a room the size of a tennis court because it has easily produced acid that exists in our world
?????
Congratulations. You now understand why SCP foundation is fricking moronic. A neat concept ruined by a bunch of homosexuals all trying to one up everybody else's crazy made up bullshit with their own crazier made up bullshit.
682 is explicitly only contained by the acid in most of the old experiment logs because it wants to be. It breaks out of containment pretty much whenever it can be assed to.
And if you factor in Project Isorropia, then it's not the acid that contains it; it's the act of the Swann entities continuously writing up new ways of trying to terminate it that maintains its containment.
All of that is just moronic.
It's no more idiotic than Hal jobbing to the color yellow.
>Hal jobbing to the color yellow.
EXIT: HAL THE PEDOPHILE
ENTER: YELLOWCHAD
Why are you like this? Hal is a garbage boomer character with no innate merits but his weakness to yellow was explained and understood as a weakness. What you’re posting is narrative homosexualry
>Hal is a garbage boomer character with no innate merits
Doesn't he basically become the Avatar for the cosmic being that powers all Green Lanterns?
No, but he did beat that guy though
Stoopid
>682 is explicitly only contained by the acid in most of the old experiment logs because it wants to be
Now that is some bullshit when 682 has expressed how it wants to kill everyone and has made multiple death threats to researchers that try to come up with new ways to kill it. There is no fricking way it is staying in that vat of acid just because.
>682 is the strongest ever he's unstoppble he's going to skullfrick Doomsday and the Hulk and you just have no idea
>Can't get out of acid to finish his death threats
>H-He wants to burn forever, don't you understand?
L to the O to the L.
All I can say is this. In 5000, when the foundation tries to kill all of humanity, they just release 682. No further information is given.
What, like a Pokemon? And he just did their bidding?
No. SCP-5000 is about how the SCP Foundation found something fricked up about the human race and decided the only way to save everyone is to kill everyone. To achieve this they just release all the SCPs that already want to exterminate the human race.
I mean, even Homelander could kill everyone if he wanted to
No, it's just that they agreed as to why humanity is disgusting.
Apparently it's our emotions. What I mean is that the ability to feel emotions isn't actually an inherent thing in humanity, but rather the result of an extradimensional parasite entity
682 wants to kill everyone, but its also shown that it's stupidly fricking lazy and cares more about the sadistic glee it gets when the Foundation tries to kill it and fails. There are several test logs showing that it could escape at any time and doesn't because it wants to see what wacky bullshit the Foundation will do next to try and kill it. IIRC it even walks back into its cell of its own volition in at least one case. It even shows the ability to draw perfect symbols that are implied to be better variations of the Foundation's own "retcon you into a member of the Foundation" sigils, so if it REALLY wanted to just escape, it could do one of those when nobody was looking and just walk on out when they accidentally peek it.
The only times it consistently breaches without otherwise being freed are when it's incited to by the latest experiment to kill it or when they leave it along for too long and it gets bored so it starts killing people to draw attention to itself.
>It wants to kill them all but its too busy getting off to BDSM to care
M-M-M-MAXIMUM COPE. What's it waiting for, old age to do the job for it?
Unlikely
Same reason why Darksod doesn't just conquer Newgen. You gotta have a plot somehow
This. Darkseid has repeatedly shown that most of New Genesis is fodder to him. He doesn't fully conquer it because Tyranny without a force of Freedom to oppose it is meaningless - it is just the status quo.
Also because he likes laughing at Orion and Highfather.
>Darksneed would totally win if he wanted to
>D-Darksneed is
Don't run Godfrey, I see you.
Tldr: 682 is as much of a narcissistic attention prostitute as the tripgay. It revels in the attention the Foundation gives it just as much as it hates them. Much like these threads, if humanity fully ceased to exist, it would either migrate to somewhere else to frick up or it would just let itself finally cease to exist as well.
>It revels in attention, which is why of basking in the attention it could gain simply by waling around it allows itself to live in a torture cage observed by a clandestine organization.
Just admit you hacks wrote yourselves into a corner with your power level masturbation fantasies. You guys are Lovecraft with brain damage. You guys are Lovecraft if he wrote a sequel to Shadow out of Time where the flying polyps dissolve people with their thoughts and eat time lines.
Gee, ya think? It's sad how much the Fae/SK/Narratives bullshit has supplemented the actual kino
Oh sweet Jesus, they did their own take on Fairies?
What did they do?
Fairies are done pretty faithfully to their legendary counterpart but some of the more prominent writers try to write in an overarching story with the fairies.
There are far fewer narrative and Fae articles than you think there are.
It's also established that finding out what's "wrong" with humanity fundamentally makes the Foundation indistinguishable from 682, to the point they even spout the exact same shit it does or admit that it was "right". There are even multiple points where it's hammered home that the Foundation and its members have ceased to be truly human anymore.
Entries on the termination log are inconsistent as frick and written by multiple people. Yeah 682 gets amusement at seeing how the scientists failed pathetically but it will still murder once it is strong enough to break out again. The only way they can even get the fricker in an acid vat is by incapacitating him, which is blowing it up from the inside to cutting it in half.
>Hey lil' humans I sit in a room all day having my body painfully dissolved at the chemical level I bet you don't even cut yourself humans lol you gays I'm going to be liquidated into a puddle now how do you like them apples?
I'm sorry, this is the guy that's supposed to inspire existential dread in humans?
Hal never jobbed to yellow because he wanted to.
5 will get you 10 the original idea was a monster that could regenerate forever because the writer read about pocket dimension mass but then when he felt the hugbox tug on his dick he decided he liked it so he buffed the regenerator into a space god so his friends could drop their jaws like their wife's boyfriends just bought them a switch.
>Scp 2721 (that Tumblr satellite) vs marvel's new warriors
Who wins?
The Tumblr satellite gets hacked by Internet gas.
>he holds the power of Tumblr, Twitter, Reddit, 9gag, and youtube in his gas
Beware the ultimate homosexual.
Anon please stop this image is my weakness. Every time I see "Experimental Internet Gas" I start to giggle like a moron for upwards of 15 minutes. I've already started frick you god help me it's just so fricking Ludacris even for comics.
Ok. Snowflake and Safe-Space aren't gonna induce lols are they?
In the what if breach for 173 a bunch of them actually permakill it.
There's also at least one tale showing that despite the best efforts of many people over time, 682 does escape and does whatever. In another (which might be the same one) set in a world where the Foundation apparently fell, 682 just continues to grow in power unchecked until it reaches a state where it is larger than galaxies and eventually dwarfs the entire universe.
The acid isn't the thing keeping it contained, it's more the fact that 682 is a bizarre combination of laziness and sadism plus the Foundation continuously trying to destroy it which keeps it from actually bothering to actively pursue its goal.
That seems counter to the original intent, which was that of a hard to kill organism. These things you are saying seem like the coping mechanism used when the power wanker responsible for this homosexualry realized it didn’t track anymore. So for the sake of a higher power level the story was ruined
>That seems counter to the original intent, which was that of a hard to kill organism.
No, the originsl intent was always that 682 is some bizarre abstract abomination that's mostly just fricking around with us and could do whatever it pleased if it cared to get off it's ass. Per Gears himself
:
>SCP-682 is not, in any way, a biological entity as we understand biology.
>Not at all.
>No.
>It is a…thing, which has somehow formed a "shell" or "growth" that we have numbered SCP-682. What it is, i have no idea, but i doubt it normally has a form we would call "corporeal". Anything dealing with normal biological processes does not count with 682. Hurting it is like shaving the hair off a human: annoying, but not deadly.
>Time, space, and states of matter must function VERY differently where ever this thing is from, and it is functioning on those rules, not ours. It's like playing checkers against someone playing chess. it's the same board, but the rules and the pieces are totally different.
>…At least, that's my opinion. When looked at it from that stand, 682 gets a little more unsettling. It's a cheating bastard at reality, and can cause folks to get more and more frustrated and hopeless as they continue to work with it. It's not a Old One or a shapeless force, it has a form and a will that seem to make sense to us…yet we can't win. We can't beat it, or control it…we can just slow it down for a while. Something about that seems to grind against the standard human will.
This is all just from Gears, all the way back in 2009. The intent has always been that 682 is something that totally violates all reality and that it's physical manifestation is ultimately meaningless to the whole, that everything the Foundation does is a delaying tactic at best.
Well, that certainly kills the mood and interest I had in it. It’s always like this isn’t it? You look back on the good old days and then realized the good old days were dogshit too
I'm not sure why you were ever under the belief that it was JUST some "hard-to-kill lizard" like the memes used to say. Even back then, most of the nuttier experiment logs were a thing with all sorts of bullshit getting attributed to it and were (and still are) directly linked into the main article.
not that anon but maybe because every other interpretation absolutely homicides the intrigue and appeal some people could have by SCP. i know i used to think it was a mildly realistic foundation that dealt with abnormalities. never in one bajillion centuries did i imagine this nice nihilist reptile was actually all of that and it ruins it. same for how the rake rip-off can run at freaking hypersonic speeds and tear through reinforced bunker material like it’s paper. and if you’re gonna tell all of us that the intrigue is in things being more than they appear to be frick off lol
>i know i used to think it was a mildly realistic foundation that dealt with abnormalities.
Not even an SCPgay, but it has never been that. It had shit like random esoteric superalloys and containment procedures for literal FVC's right from the start.
SCP-096 is pretty fair with how it works according to the article. The real question comes from how it would handle people that are in space or another dimension. If those questions are answered then it would be power wanking. SCP-096 whole deal is that you die for seeing its face and the article does its best to tell you how dangerous the thing can be when it goes on a fricking rampage.
i have to respectfully disagree. i like it more being able to disembowel humans in the manner a bear would, not in the manner Doomsday or Shakara would. what you’re describing is external to the core idea and if the core idea isn’t very gripping then we have a fundamental problem but that’s just between me and it. i know some people get off on this kinda thing
>Can freely funnel mass from another dimension
>Still contained by acid
The frick?
See
>It wants to be kept in a room where its periodically eaten away by acid
What the frick? This screams bad cope by power wankers.
What part of it doesn't care if it's physical form is damaged is hard for you to understand? Do you cry in pain when you wash your hair?
No one cares about the vague fatass monster in a pocket dimension it draws mass from. It's immaterial literally and from a narrative standpoint. Do people give a shit about Cyclop's punch dimension or Nightcrawler's brimstone dimension? It's the desiccated alligator that's the problem and presumably the big-dick danger monster.
And going by
it clearly does care when its hair gets cut and what's more can't do a thing about it.
the foundation never tried a meat grinder so he cannot say for certain it wouldn't die from it, hell if it could die from drunk driving anything is possible
Jerma pls
They used laser cutters to slice it into bits and the pieces crawled back to each other like if it was the T-1000. A meat grinder is not going to do shit.
>died from drunk driving
You do know that was a joke tale, right? As in it was not meant to be taken seriously.
>dies from drunk driving
Boomstick is a monster! A drunk monster!!
Superman could quite literally solo everything they have at once. Imagine his interaction with 3812
>You claim to be "Above all narratives." But I ask you: Who remembers you? You're just a hollow boast by a couple thousand people.
>You aren't even above one narrative because you don't even have a story to begin with.
Something like that. Too malicious sounding though
If Kryptonite exist in the scp universe then sure.
Depends on the variant of the Foundation. If you use Death Battle rules and give the Foundation literally EVERYTHING, then no.
With prep, sure.
They got out
They always get out. The biggest mistake is always putting Flash, GL, or Batman into one pf those things
How are they containing Flash? He looks like he is trying to vibrate his way out but can't.
>Superman
Kryptonite or magic will do the trick.
>Batman
Batman would likely be working for the SCP Foundation. He would probably send them villains like Clayface or Poison Ivy for containment.
As for the rest of the Justice League, the Foundation would probably just use all of Batman's contingency plans.
No, they can contain elder gods. Even the reality manipulator supes would get fricked.
When and why did SCP jump the shark?
I don't really know actually. The moment the Scarlet King and "Narrative" bullshit happened
Narratives were a later thing. The Scarlet King itself was super early into the site history, but went through (and still goes through) varying interpretations.
When it took itself too seriously as a solidified thing while adding in another thousand generic murder-monsters.
If instead it remained a loose anthology collection of horror themed fanfictions with no declared consistency or rules, it would've been better.
The Scp shit is overrated bullcrap. A fricking teletubie can beat them.
Stupid take
What Kaiju should be next in death battle
Alright this is just getting absurd. We just asked the same question, so calm down
Round 2.
Cloverfield vs Godzilla is a Godzilla win, but it's not a stomp. Why?
Clover apparently has physical brute strength and speed that Godzilla himself would be absolutely fricking envious of. He's one of the only monsters I'd say could probably overpower the big G in a battle of pure physical strength.
Godzilla threw Kumonga out of sight in Godzilla: Final Wars and stalemated Thor in a pushing competition.
Ah, yes, the same stalemate that didn't destroy the empire state
>overpowering Herc and Hulk doesn’t count because he didn’t destroy the planet
Yes
Zilla.
>Bring me Hal Jordan
Doom is for Hal.
besides green and willful i don't see the connection, but Doom has more will than Hal and if his draining is scaled to so much as a cosmic cube Hal is fricked
>b-but Hal's will!
Doom can resist the temptation of Valeria Richards already being around his finger like a ring. Hal could not wait a few years for his girl to grow up. They are not the same
Doom needs something to suck, while Hal just wills shit out of thin air (even without a ring)
Luckily Hal has a nice juicy ring full of nice juicy energy, and if Hal wills constructs outta thin air they'll get absorbed too, and his list of feats doesn't come close to mentioning anything even resembling the cosmic cubes' high ends
>retunes the entire multiverse
Cosmic Cube ain't shit
Child's play. Hal ain't shit outside of these threads, and even inside of them he's small fry.
>while retuning the entire multiverse in the process casually created an infinite power supply for an Omega+ level civilization
Cosmic Cube ain't shit
>gobbledyasiatic
Hal is a no-name and a no-count
>throws away ring and punching Doom
Yeah? What now, buckethead?
DOOM mogged a lion bare handed while naked. Hal would get raped in fisticuffs
Hal fights shapeshifting alien maneaters barehanded. Doom's just another pansy in a tin can
Then those aliens were weak enough to be handled by humans. Luckily we know how tough lions are because they exist. Doom punches Hal’s jaw clean off
The ring immediately moves to the superior wielder that is Doom
The ring Hal just threw away?
lol
lmao
Remember that time one fricked off from Sinestro to Shaggy? That's what would happen to Hal
Doom beats him to death or just magics his ass into impotence?
Hal is for the Beyonder
You get merc'd in picoseconds
Try Captain Comet
Wrong. Rich annihilates Hal and most other GLs for that matter.
>no argument
Does no such thing
Dick Rider has been riding dick so long his insides can contain an entire universe's worth of cosmic tumors. i say he wins
Got bored as I afk'd on an MMO bus, decided to watch the Iron Man vs Batman vid and remembered why I stopped bothering with these.The failing in logic gets me every time, especially when they reference stuff and don't actually use it.
Why have no villains from anime been used this season?
They should use one. Preferably from an anime that already ended.
All For One Vs Naraku
>using Mr. "7 billion different layers of immortality" in a Death Battle
The match would never end.
Too broken. Sesshomaru would be fairer.
Sesshomaru with Yashahime scaling cutting a fragment of the Grim Comet in half paired with all his other stuff makes him stupidly broken on his own.
How about sesshomaru vs itachi?
Sesshomaru has shit that could severely damage Itachi, but he falls to the same issue that all Inuyasha characters fall to when other shonen get involved - speed. Itachi could likely run rings around him and has enough damage output to actually harm him right back.
Sounds like an interesting match up between evil bro vs evil bro. Only matchup I could think up for Naraku was Aizen, but they've already used him recently.
Sesshoumaru is for Vergil
Could ghostbusters beat Pinhead?
Easily
With IDW scaling, total photonic reversal can blow up universes and cause multiversal scale ripple effects, so probably.
Would be better to put them up against Leviathan.
Yes.
But honestly, they need to fight Casper.
Why
The tripgay has some weird matches that he insists on that really won't go anywhere. Casper doesn't really have any feats that would make anything more than a mook against the Ghostbusters.
>They don't know about the logo lawsuit and Ghostbusters cameo
People will shallow reference pools should sit down and be quiet while people with knowledge speak.
It becomes a will-off, as the energy responds to will, and that's why Hal smokes Doom. He's got better succ, more powers, more speed, and the better will.
Consider this--Doom in both secret wars subconsciously sabotaged himself because he knew he wasn't worthy of the power, and his will was broken by the Thing. Hal's will has never been broken, and he knows he's 100% worthy of having power.
No
Columbia Ghostbusters need to fight Filmation Ghostbusters
How many CSM matchups do you expect to happen as soon as the anime releases?
I'm expecting at the very least fights with Denji, Power, and Makima.
There're plenty of CSM match ups already.
>Kobeni vs Miwa
>Denji vs Itadori/Kaiman/Finn
>Aki vs Fushigaro
>Power vs Foo/Nobara/Noi
>Makima vs Gojo/Jesse/Bubblegum
Quanxi, Angel, and Reze probably have some good fights too.
why the frick is the SCPverse so fricking wanked by its own writers? what happened to the concept of "global organization contains weird shit to keep normies safe?"
Because it is open to anyone to contribute. It doesn't help that there is no hard canon so people do not mind if you wank on the site. Also there is still the occasional SCP that is just contained simply because.
>Bring me Alan Scott!
Someone in the comments said this, and I actually liked it
>Nearing the climax of the fight, the camera would show the sun and moon rapidly orbiting the Earth, with the sun eventually becoming a red giant, and 682 and Doomsday would STILL be fighting.
>Otto is going full schizo again
He has been really angry ever since Black Adam got his face stomped in by Apoc.
>unwanted tripgay is having another autistic episode
just off yourself already.
I like how he's also clearly making comments on stuff he hasn't read, but he's always telling people to sit down and shut up because he CLEARLY knows better than them. Then he has a fricking meltdown when the shit he's spewing doesn't actually align with reality like he thinks it does.
Could Ghostbusters beat Keiji Mogami from Mob Psycho 100?
To answer your question:
>is it a ghost?
If the answer is yes, then yeah, they can
The Ghostbusters have caught lots of things that weren't ghosts. In fact, a lot of their later busts were demons or demonic spiritual entities.
The only thing from SCP that should appear in DB is The Foundation itself
Maybe vs the organization from Cabin in the Woods
The Foundation has so much bullshit that it appearing on DB under DB's composite rulings would break the show unless they specified a specific set of canons they're drawing from.
How about scp vs creepypastas or kingverse?
>creepypastas
Most Creepypastas aren't very powerful, with only Slender Man having noteworthy interpretations at any scale that would be noticeable to a composited Foundation. The Fear Mythos has some stuff that would be a problem to certain versions of it, but a composite? No.
>kingverse
Gan and Dis or bust. Nobody else matters.
The Cabin Crew got btfo by a stoner. Base Foundation would rape them let alone a composited one
Let see 682 take on Superman, he has no limits.
[Spoiler]and then POPEYE![/spoiler]
>he has no limits
it depends
>682
What a b***h
Couldn't CAS just hijack the narrative and say, 682 is weaker than him? If he can do it for published authors, surely he can demystify fan wikis too?
Wikis are a higher cardinality than narratives
If canon stuff takes more presidence than any fanmade stuff, why wouldn't he be able to make him becoming stronger than the lizard canon?
Mandrakk was an analog for the author wasn't he? Using that logic, any anon editing a wiki entry is giving them a taste of CAS's power right? Correct me of I'm wrong.
>Mandrakk was an analog for the author wasn't he?
No, Mandrakk was simply the archetype of the Vampire as a cosmic ur-predator who eats stories, which isn't unique to him since all the Monitors feed on them. He wasn't an analog or metaphor for anything, and even came back in another story to show that he survived the Overdo it whereas CAS was irreversibly damaged by only a couple of his attacks.
Death Metal also showed him as one of the many villains manipualted by Perpetua's machinations and Infinite Frontier/Justice League Incarnate/Dark Crisis also reveals that he was always an avatar of the Great Darkness, so even the notion of him being some kind of meta-horror (itself a meme perpetuated by people who never read his story) has long since been retconned.
*survived the Overvoid
Interesting read. I'll take a 2nd look at it. But frick me, is this implying batkek usurps 682 in brokenness?
I always saw CAS as a character who takes over comic narritives to make himself win in the end. Plus the 4th wall awareness seemed above deadpool's since he acknowledged he was a character in a comic instead of cracking jokes. Hope he isn't trying to add supes to the legbeard religion.
>But frick me, is this implying batkek usurps 682 in brokenness?
Manhattan powers a just this obscenely strong.
it is speculated by some, though it hasn’t been confirmed by Grant “Supergays are bald trannies” Morrison, that Mandrakk is a stand in for Alan Moore who seeks to destroy the comic book industry using his evil caveman witchcraft. Morrison himself does witchcraft when he writes (literally has claimed to do this with sigils and masturbation) so it’s probably not far off from reality
That comes off as so fricking petty.
Matter of fact, Grant is pretty much a slightly self aware Chris Chan.
>troony who thinks he's way smarter than he actually is
>Writes comics about how fiction is real and will one day merge with our world
>Puts people he doesn't like in as villains in his comics
>Also has his own self insert show up in said comics as well
>Puts people he doesn't like in as villains in his comics
Who? Did some evil suit in DC make him go into tumblr troony mode? I gotta know!
This.
Morrison's a crackpot who thinks way too highly of himself, in a hundred or so years he'll probably be forgotten outside of shitposters who've never read his work on the internet (if it's even still around) jokingly going along with his hypercrisis crackpot ideas like Stirner.
Said self-insert was soon after murdered horribly among other third-rate villains in a story he then and still fully endorses
How seriously do you think he takes the shit you're seething over?
>He forgot about the Invisibles and how he was schizo enough to think some of the injuries he put on his self insert magically affected him
The guy's claim to fame is writing a surprisingly good Superman story and having his script stolen by the Wachowskis.
King Mob vs Morpheus when?
All-star superman and one of the shit matrix sequels I'm guessing?
Nope, the original Matrix. You're right on All Star Superman though.
And funnily enough, Moorwiener was giving Morrison shit over him ripping him off in the Invisibles. So it's a ripoff of a ripoff.
>the original matrix
I thought that was ripping off Ghost in the Shell that weebs don't wanna admit rips off blade runner lol https://youtu.be/NwJEb3vJvWY https://youtu.be/x6JGmEKzqL8
What did Grant rip off from Moorwiener’s multiverse? I know Witcher and 40K have also blatantly ripped the ‘wiener off
Mostly just Gideon Stargrave being a bootleg Jerry Cornelius.
Grant's idea of chaos magic definitely seems to be more taken from Moorwiener's work than actual systems focusing on chaos magic stuff.
Elric is for Geralt
Elric is for Drizzt
Geralt and Elric have more connections
>Both have strong anti-hero tones about them, although Elric takes it into anti-villain sometimes
>Both are known to be peerless swordsmen, as well as being capable of using magic to boot. The only difference is Elric is a full blown sorcerer
>Both act as mercenaries through much of their series
They share a similar aesthetic, bleach white hair and pale skin with abnormal eyes
>Both are called the The White Wolf.
They both fall in love with a dark haired beauties. Cymoril to Elric and Yennefer to Geralt.
>Both are known to be womanizers their strange, inhuman looks
>Their naming scheme is the same. Geralt of Rivia. Elric of Melnibone
Elric uses witch sight to augment his senses....Geralt uses Witcher sense
>Both use potions as a mainstay of their character
>Both blatantly refuse to accept destiny, burdened by their status in life and respective responsibilities
>Both often manipulated by very powerful people as part of the main plot of their story
>Both part of a race that is dying out, a relic of times past
Elric vs Drizzt is cooler, plus Moorwiener vs Salvatore
>Netflix jobs to the books
Would DB even touch that? Geralt stands no chance to the og white wolf.
How powerful is Elric? I presume because of how chaos works it will be wonky answering this so give me a highball
Varies, but his highest tier is stupidly high into multiversal, albeit in at least one instance he needed several other incarnations of the Eternal Champion to merge with him.
WTF? can’t say I was expecting that since I only read the more recent French comics, or the ones that have been translated anyway. he seems pretty street tier ish, is he that strong with sorcery or just the sword?
Combination of sorcery, Stormbringer being bullshit, and his inherent nature as an Eternal Champion.
All-Star Superman is only good if you worship Superman
Put your trip on, doc
It's also dumb as shit. Mandrakk was a Stand-In for DC Editorial.
The only time he's made a stand in for Moore was All-Beard, a Subway Hobo Pirate in a desperate battle for control of the Subway System in New York with rival No-Beard.
Said battle itself was poking fun at the rivalry between he and Moore.
What the FRICK is cardinality?
Orders of such and things
how do order and arrangement pertain to qualitative power leveling?
By being higher or lower
Duh
CAS does not have any kind of narrative manipulation and jobs to a couple billion suns and a specified number of 52 universes.
Who could they face?
Why not Ren & Stimpy?
Finn and Jake, Anne and Sprig, Wiz and Boomstick Maybe they can even go against Phineas and Ferb.
Yeah Finn and Jake was my first thought too, I would’ve used Finn against Steven so i feel like if Finn/Jake ever get used Mord and Rigby and probably the most likely
Bejita
>no fun
>90s emo
>always compares himself to kakarot
>doesn't treat bulma like a prostitute
>toriyama wanted him killed off
>balding
>enhancement talent, always jobs to make kakrot look good
>ultra ego is not as good as ultra instinct
>gives birth to beta sasuke
>jobs to the godbuster armor
Why does toriyama want him to suffer so much bejitabros?
>Persona 3 remake apparently happening now
Who'd be a good MU for Door?
Now that we know Trunks is going to win against Silver, how would it happen? How is Silver going to die?
Luz Vs White Anime Luz
Taimanin vs who? Would DB even dare to give that kind of fan service?
Miko Mido, of course
literally who?
You're too innocent to know already
Juliet vs seiko when?
>You're too innocent to know already
i don't bother with coombrain shit much since it's all assetflip-tier dogshit.
>coombrain shit
It is but the creators are trying to make it mainsteam with gatcha crap. Nuff said. Let it die ok.
Ignore it. The idea is.worse than Ikki tousen in death battle ok?
>would DB even dare
Anon, they won't even give us og catfights like Red Sonja vs Xena or Black Cat vs Catwoman
I could see the last two happening, at the very least the last one when they need an easy DC loss.
>Would DB even dare to give that kind of fan service?
they already have done fully naked fan service, since season 3
>Doom fanboy admits that Bayonetta can beat Doomguy and even Doomslayer later on
>But same guy states Kratos, Alastor, Dio Over Heaven, Goku, and Master Chief cannot pull off a win against neither of his two versions
I didn't get why though, since Spanish isn't my strength. Is this accurate?
Doomslayer is too slow for her. Same reason he could never beat a Flash or Sonic. His time or speed manipulation skills are far from being his forte. His attack charging speed is also terrible. With his best equipment and prep time, Doomslayer's biggest destructive feat is leaving behind a new crater on Mars's surface. So, he doesn't quite make it to planetary.
Honestly, not sure if he can even beat Goku. The Davoth fight was too underwhelming to take his lore at face value. And this is not taking into account Xenoverse Goku nor updated Bayo, which will likely leave less room for doubt.
Doomguy definitely beats Master Chief and updated Doomslayer could may be beat Kratos. Then again, Kratos is about to gain new feats and stats with Ragnarok.
I fricking hate how Bayonetta has to be stuck on the Shitch. Those graphics are just on pair if not worse than Scarlet Nexus.
Ah, he does hate Screwattack. Didn't know hispanics liked more Doom than Halo.
Who'd be a good match for him?
The guy from Duel Masters maybe? I dont know their powers
Commando elite vs who Cinemaphile?
Sid's toys?
Gremlins
The puppets from Puppet Master
>Fate/strange fake anime got announced
Yeah, I can people are definitely going to be pushing for Gilgamesh in a Death Battle.
It's time.
How powerful is base Gil?
Does Yukari outhax him?
Based purely on his own accomplishments, base Gil is in that nebulous "too strong to be street tier, not strong enough to be a Marvel herald" area. He could probably reduce a mountain to rubble easily, fights with guys that deflect automatic machinegun fire, and has interesting esoteric abilities including a weapon that has been shown to break a pocket dimension about the size of a football field. The marker sniffers will probably tell you base Gil is MFTL and multiversal, but that's almost certainly untrue. Yukari probably outhaxes him given her demonstrated feats (that time she merged day and night was weird as shit) but it runs into the question of whether she can overcome his considerable passive magic resistance.
I don't think we'll ever see 2hu chars in death battle, their powers are too weird and undefined, it would be a mess.
We're getting Sauron, anon. Tolkien's shit isn't as bad, but it's no walk in the park either. The next fight is Xenoverse vs Archie Comics.
Gilgamesh F Vs Gilgamesh FF
Luz vs Akko
I do wonder if fights like Scarlet Witch vs Zatanna and Apocalypse vs Black Adam originally had the opposite result but they changed their minds midway through because they feel like a complete shitstomp animationwise and they were originally meant to pull a Scrooge McDuck and get one critical move in
>do wonder if fights like Scarlet Witch vs Zatanna
Cope
Tell me a single point in which Zatanna wasn't clearly winning, like the only time Scarlet Witch was in a winning position was when she summoned fricking Avengers and reflecting the chain attack.
it's possible, but i wouldn't call it probable. W v Z nauseating as it was (gypsy vs satanist, both capeshit, both women) seemed like it was only ever going one place. do you feel like there's a specific cutoff point where you could say "okay this is where the tide was gonna turn"?
Belos
He actually has some fighting skills
VSBW is unanimous Trunks
Guess Trunks is winning
they're legal aged currently.... right?
They've spent a lot of time wanking Heroes, so of course they are.
They got a number of shit wrong with Xeno Trunks, so that doesn't exactly surprise me. I'm still investing in Silvercoin since he has a multitude of things that mog Swimwear.
It's Detnox so probably not.
If you looked at this, you'd think trunks stomps too
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Future_Trunks_(Xeno)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Keysword#Awakened
Ben said they’re using Xeno and Archie because normal version is a stomp for trunks
This tells me Trunks still wins
1. What is SCP?
2. Why is it the most requested verse amongst battleboarders?
>A collaborative writing thing about an organization that contains weird shit.
>It's fricking broken
How well would they stand against The Boys universe?
>People who can move planets
Vs
>A world where the strongest being can't even lift a plane and gets taken out by mini nukes
If they wanted to, they could wipe the floor with that entire verse. They already handled a better faux Justice League, so this one would probably be even less of a challenge..
Thinking about this from ops question, I realised there's no good matchups for the ppgs tbh. Only reason I chose The boys is
>both were created in labs
>both got powers from chemicals
>both cause massive collateral damage
>both have in universe fans and detractors
>both have had trouble with non powered enemies
Otherwise there's not much i can think of with similar connections
Swan is a major moron and his JoJo wank is going to poison discussion well into the future, I can already tell.
Alucope
You forgot your wojak Liam
They should make a list of characters they've scaled fastest to slowest.
Thor would literally be the fastest disregarding infinite characters.
Why do they keep making him fast
>thor is faster than barry, wally, and eobard
so basically Swan is very insecure about the reception of his speed calcs, he now is releasing a damage control video explaining his "process", which will just be seen by people who are already brainwashed enough to pay them Death Battle money in the first place?
Yep. It's very pathetic.
>AS YOU CAN SEE HERE POLNAREFF THROWS SAND INTO THE EGYPTIAN'S EYE CAUSING HIM TO CLOSE HIS EYELID BEFORE THE LIGHT REACHES IT MEANING HE BLINKED AT WARP 10
Also his wank completely devalues the reason why Jojo's fights are so good. They're not just powerlevel contests, they're about using your head and cool tactics to overcome your foe.
Oh so basically it's the shit you and everyone else here does, got it.
The problem isn't the math behind the calc, the problem is the assumptions. Swan abuses the concept of cinematic time to take the event out of context to give SC a speed (and every other stand that scales to it, by extension) that would utterly break the setting. Instead of recognizing the adaptation's version as effectively being a dramatized slide of gameplay mechanics, where SC just had his sword in the right place at the right time as a result of a calculated ambush, he thinks SC was moving fast enough that the beam of light HM was traveling in was frozen. He takes the David Productions adaptation of the scene as unassailable, gospel truth even if his interpretation makes no sense with Polnareff's own admissions regarding SC's speed.
>Swan abuses the concept of cinematic time to take the event out of context to give SC a speed (and every other stand that scales to it, by extension) that would utterly break the setting
I think Bond is the biggest offender and the finest example of Swank's flawed speed calcs. For exactly the reasons you mentioned.
Bond is by far the biggest offender.
You're special ed if you think anyone working on the script, the film, or marketing thought "yeah, in the Moonraker laser scene the characters are juking at Warp 10."
You're simply insane.
The biggest JB fans on Earth would ask what the frick is wrong with you if you started talking to them about Bond's secret superpower to move faster than his car but only to dodge bullets.
Easy enough to deal with, you'd just have to confuse them by talking about SCP cardinalities and Jojo's lightspeed vampires.
you mean the one that was said to be an outlier
>MUH OUTLIER
No motherfricker, that does not excuse it, because it isn't an outlier.
An outlier would be if in one movie James Bond uppercutted Blofeld into the sun. An outlier would be something that actually happened. James Bond did not move faster than light in any of his films and if you think he did you are moronic.
So no, not an outlier. Try "moronic people watched the films and went LIGHTSPEED LIGHTSPEED CLAP CLAP when they saw the space battle."
Bayonetta hasn't had a match since Season 3 (6 seasons and 6 years ago) btw.
Yeah, but Goku, Master Chief, Kratos, and Doomguy/slayer are even worse in that regard. What a coincidence. All of these characters have been outdated for 5 years at least. Some by 10.
Think any of them could return at this point. Xeno and Heroes Goku is not far-fetched now.
The difference is that Death Battle actively wanks said characters you just brought up and all four of them are highly requested for new matches.
You're trying so hard to push a character whose best matchup by the fanbase's standards is Morrigan.
It was brought up by a Doomgay of all people though. I just replied to correct that guy.
>whose best matchup by the fanbase's standards is Morrigan.
Ryonagay doesn't speak for all of us. Most here are tired of that MU proposal and others of his.
Don't understand why this anon wants so badly for Morrigan to die against her. If she doesn't end up fighting Nero or getting a Dante rematch, I think even Ultimecia and I-No would make more sense than Morrigan.
kek
>hasn't had a match since Season 3 (6 seasons and 6 years ago
The more reason for her to return, I guess. It also did pretty well in views. That helps.
Her dying to Dante is fine with me, mostly because Dante is too fricking cool.
Didn't Swan said DMC got fraudchecked? To sub-planetary level or something? Travis and Doomslayer could end up fighting DMC. After all, one has never been featured in Death Battle and the other one wasn't even the "Doomslayer" when he fought MC. I know there's Hellboy, but eh. Not really a fan. For the girls, just do not have Morrigan or Midna fight someone on the level of I-No and Bayo. It's an absurd proposal. Ultimecia is boring, but at least she's leagues above Morrigan, and people wouldn't mind her losing against another multiversal witch because of that.
For some reason, suddenly got the urge to rewatch her Death Battle.
I think Super Sonic will be on the weak side in Frontiers since they use him in normal bosses.
>normal bosses
There's nothing to indicate that the Titans are weak. The fact that the very first one mogs base Sonic who could casually solo Perfect Chaos in Generations (who previously needed Super Sonic to beat) means they're massively stronger than an entity that's stated multiple times over to be capable of surface-wiping the planet and can drain the emeralds. Base Sonic could also damage Imperfect Dark Gaia, who split the planet just by waking up.
That single Titan would beat many characters to death just via scaling alone, even before we get into the necessity of needing Super Sonic to fight it on even grounds.
>Chaos
>Surfice wiping the planet
He destroyed a single city man, just because he could eventually kill everyone doesn't mean he can surfive wipe the planet.
It's literally directly stated in-game that Chaos has the capacity of lifewiping the planet. In fact, the first time it woke up, it DID cause a worldwide catastrophe. It shot down a massive flying fortress in a single shot, (whose official size is apparently 789 meters in length) then went and drained almost all of the power from the Chaos Emeralds, leaving them as dull grey rocks before discarding them (for reference, powering a cannon that shattered half the moon wasn't even enough to drain the seven emeralds and a weapon that can annihilate whole star clusters, the Final Egg Blaster, is implicitly weaker than they are).
Tikal herself, the one who originally sealed Chaos was very clear that if it wasn't stopped, it would go on to destroy the world, just like it nearly did in ancient times. You can feel free to ignore the overwhelming amount of evidence, but you'll just look more and more like a moron.
>directly stated in-game that Chaos has the capacity of lifewiping the planet. I
That doesn’t refute anything, it’s about timeframe
The timeframe is "it woke up, got betrayed and nearly destroyed the planet". Like I said, you can argue against it as you like, but you'll just look like a moron because all the evidence is in the game.
sorry anon but they other guyshas you here, Tiakal said chaos could **eventually** destroy the world,we don't how long it would take.
The "other guy" doesn't have a point; Tikal herself backs up that it can destroy the world, timeframe doesn't matter.
You have also yet to address the fact that Chaos could drain the emeralds, when the only other thing to have done so (Dark Gaia) is inarguably planet-level and the emeralds are actually used to set the chunks of the planet back together back in Unleashed, meaning that they have planet level energy capacity. Not even a moon busting laser could actually drain the energy of the emeralds.
>and its been said the negative energy is weaker than the positive
Source? Because last I checked, that's not stated anywhere
"Negative Chaos Emerald energy is also implied to be inferior to that of its positive counterpart."
"Tails: Chaos only used the negative power of the Emeralds. Sonic, you should be able to harness their real power!"
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos_Emerald_energy
the igame source is cited there
>is only implied
So there's nothing backing the idea that it's inferior.
There also isn't anything to show that even if the negative energy WAS inferior, what "inferior" means in this context. Anything you have to say regarding the negative and positive chaos energy divide is literally headcanon.
>"Tails: Chaos only used the negative power of the Emeralds. Sonic, you should be able to harness their real power!"
did you guys not read the quote?
>Tails hyping up Sonic counts as "proof" now
And we're done here.
That isn't evidence. Saying that Sonic "should" be able to do something or spouting on about the "real power" of the emeralds is ultimately meaningless without defining what he means.
Also, you do realize that even in the game itself, Perfect Chaos takes on Super Sonic on even grounds? So that immediately shoots a hole in the idea that the negative and positive energy have some sort of inherent divide in terms of power.
>literally stated from the actual authority that knows what it has done because she was alive back then that it will destroy the world
>can drain the Emeralds, which are themselves shown several times over to have planet and star level feats at the low end, and massively higher beyond that
>no, it isn't planet level because...It just isn't okay!
It's hilarious how this moronic downplay is your attempt to retroactively make Super Sonic seem weaker than he actually is.
choas only used the negative power of the emeralds, and its been said the negative energy is weaker than the positive
Chaos drained the emeralds, period. What charged them back up was positive emotions and energy, but there's nothing in any media stating that the negative energy was the only thing that was taken or that it was "weaker" even if it was.
>eventually destroy the world like he did before
The phrasing of the statement makes it clear that Chaos did in fact destroy the world before - they're saying that he'll do it again if he isn't stopped.
>Chaos did in fact destroy the world before
The same world that Sonic and Chaos are currently on and remains undestroyed? The same one that had enought survivors to build a giant ass stone temple with a giant mural of Perfect Chaos and eventually descent into Knuckles.
Damn, if a not fully succesfull genocide is all it takes to be called a planet buster, then I guess Hitler must've had a pretty high power level.
Chaos is a surface wiper. Nobody here was arguing that he could nuke planets with ease.
Haku moves at the speed of light when he uses his mirrors. Swank ignored the feat. And any potential scaling and calc stacking from this character.
It's funny how feats work for some series but not for others for some reason!
>Haku moves at the speed of light when he uses his mirrors. Swank ignored the feat. And any potential scaling and calc stacking from this character.
Cope Narutard
No he's got a point.
Obviously he isn't light speed. Neither is Misc. But by Swank's criteria Haku should be.
Yeah but it’s funnier to see Narutogays sperg like when Sanji killed Lee
SANJI WON!? The frick, that makes even less sense than Zoro beating Erza. At least with Erza, they could argue that the verdict is wrong due to bad timing, but Lee losing to Sanji, how the frick does that make sense?
>Zoro beating Erza. At least with Erza, they could argue that the verdict is wrong due to bad timing,
Lol Erzasimps
Anyways Sanji won since Lee needed 6 people to take out half a meteor and Zoro just needs himself
And no, Erza can’t beat Zoro
They got Lee to moon level but decided to give Sanji the edge on the speed department, even though by claims Haku is LS exactly like the Hanged Man, and Lee had no problem intercepting him at base.
>even though by claims Haku is LS exactly like the Hanged Man, and Lee had no problem intercepting him at base.
Well technically Haku wasn’t actuall light
Neither are stands
Actually, wrong, he does turn into a mirror reflection.
Swank ignored this feat because it's not JoJo.
>Actually, wrong, he does turn into a mirror reflection.
>Swank ignored this feat because it's not JoJo.
>Not a beam of light
Narutogays really need to learn to pick their battles. It’s already canon Luffy is faster
Go away you baboon. Your low IQ has a gaslighting effect I've grew a distaste for.
I'm not talking about One Piece, just Naruto, JoJo and the double standards of Death Battle when it comes to judging feats.
>Go away you baboon. Your low IQ has a gaslighting effect I've grew a distaste for.
>I'm not talking about One Piece, just Naruto, JoJo and the double standards of Death Battle when it comes to judging feats.
Yes you were since you’re mad Luffy is canonically faster
>Erza can’t beat Zoro
After the meteorite scene and 100 year quest, she sure can. Hell, I don't see straw hats reaching at all Bleach, Naruto/Boruto nor Fairy Tail's powerlevels because One Piece is over.
>before One Piece is over.
fixed
>After the meteorite scene and 100 year quest, she sure can. Hell, I don't see straw hats reaching
You mean the meteor that was only going to kill 6 people?
>they're actually doing Sauron vs Darth Vader
>Vader is almost guaranteed to get Legends/EU stuff
OH NO NO NO SAURONBROS NOT LIKE THIS
Did they confirm Vader?
Really? Oh, boy. If Vader cuts off his ring finger, Sauron automatically explodes. And his finger was cut off by a broken sword made by some dwarf. No way that thing is more powerful than a lightsaber.
Tbf that was just the movie. In the books he was dead before his finger was cut off by Isildur.
Not that it matters much though. *Non-wanked* Sauron doesn't have the physical stats nor the had to take on Legends Vader.
Even if the ring does work on Vader, which it probably does, that in no way helps Sauron actually win the fight.
1. When Sauron is wearing the ring, it's not like it makes everyone in the vicinity not want to kill him. Otherwise Isildur wouldn't have been fighting alongside his dad and Elrond.
2. While the ring still existing would allow Sauron to regain a physical form, the process takes a long ass time. When his body was destroyed in Numenor it was dozens if not hundreds of years before he could "take shape" again. Same when he was killed at the end of the Second Age.
3. Assuming Vader does wear the ring, it's not like he becomes a puppet of Sauron or anything. That's only the lesser rings (and even then that's after years of influence on the men and dwarves wearing them). While Sauron could spy on the wearers, and that the ring can "corrupt" people wearing it, it merely leads them to do evil.
Galadriel even says that if she were to get the ring, she'd overthrow Sauron and take his place instead. Gandalf likewise says this. Hell Saruman plans on it.
Why in the blue hell would they do Darth Vader vs Sauron?
Are you asking this of the same group that booked Bond vs Wick? The same ones who think Ant-Man vs Atom didn't have enough cultural pull and then did Zatanna vs Wanda and Black Adam vs Apocalypse? Because it's the two of the biggest villains in film, which is why Voldemort vs Sauron is also possible.
But what's the theme besides scary men in black armor?
Evil emperor figure, sci-fi versus fantasy. Best I've got.
What was the theme for Shadow vs Ryuko? "red and black". Mewtwo vs Tetsuo? "capes". Korra vs Storm? "brown". Macho Man vs Kool-Man Man? "oh yeah". The rather shallow "scary men in black armor" is more than good enough for them, likely.
*Magneto vs Tetsuo
Huh, didn't consider that possibility either. I still think Sauron is fighting Arthas, though. But Vader or Voldemort would be a nice surprise.
He doesn't need it, this shit is a curbstomp
They'll do Cinder vs Azula and you'll like it.
Source or it's not happening, though I wouldn't put it past them.
>They'll do Cinder vs Azula and you'll like it.
So an Azula stomp?
>vsbattles has Sauron at universe level
what is wrong with them?
goku vs bugs bunny
The real angle is the wrestling one, but technically this is a cartoon vs cartoon fight with neither character being a significant user of toonforce.
>we were robbed out of Green Goblin vs Joker
>we got Harley vs Jinx instead
why
They legitimately thought that Harley vs Jinx was going to do big numbers. The Superman vs Goku of female combatants, right?
Guaranteed to surpass even a divisive fight, like Yang vs Tifa, especially since this time both girls are disgustingly mainstream. Might as well spend most of the season's budget on it.
Green Goblin VS Joker also sucks
Norman should fight someone new that he doesn't just drone strike and BTFO easily.
Which is why his real soul fight is Black Manta
>rocket sled vs flying submersible tank
Totally legit
it's about watching Joker suffer and die screaming instead of laughing, son
It's Joker. Nowadays in things like Arkham City and Injustice, he would laugh before dying. MK11 is an exception to this because you can torture joker as much as you want.
That's not interesting enough to me to outweigh that the match itself is boring.
Why does no one ever mention for bosses like Chaos that you're always specifically attacking their weak point
It's like going inside someone and directly attacking their brain, how can you scale from that?
The same way you scale any other combat feat. Especially because you can damage bosses in Sonic games even when not specifically attacking their weakpoints.
The only reason this might be an exception with Chaos is because it's literally made of water, but you can damage it in all its previous forms regardless.
On a scale of 1-10 how would you rate DeathBattle's booking this season?
So far? 3/10.
Nothing has really popped outside Hercules vs Monkey and that's one episode.
Booking? Because overall the fights are good but nothing inspired, I will give them points for finally doing live action movies again though
6
3/10 and that's being generous. The only solid bookings this season have been
>Herc vs Wukong
>Trunks vs Silver
>Omni Man vs Homelander (and only for the actual fight)
Everything else has been either boring (All the capeshit) or absolute fricking shit (Bond vs Wick)
I don't know. I can recognize some matchups as crap (Omni-lander, Bond/Wick, Mags/Tets), but it's mostly just fights I don't care about. The only truly inspired matchup they've done this season is Hercs vs Monke, and that episode was just fine.
How so?
>How so?
By sheer virtue of Cinder being both a hilarious jobber and abjectly fricking moronic.
Like Azula at her craziest wasn't as earth-shatteringly fricking stupid as Cinder is. Even if Cinder has a power advantage she'd find a way to lose by sheer virtue of going full moron
Silver vs Trunks (Archie vs Xenoverse/Heroes) is a genuine 10/10.
Apoc vs Adam was a 5.
Bond vs Wick, Excal vs Raiden and Magneto vs Tetsuo were the worst booking decisions I've seen in a while, so those are all 1's.
Monke vs Hera was a 10/10 MU with 6/10 animation
vegana vs Thor should've happened before WW vs Thor, but it was still an 8 in terms of booking.
Omni-Man, Zatanna and Tanjiro's episodes all kinda just fall into this group of "who kept asking for these?" So I'd say they're around 4's.
Jinx vs Harley, despite being moronic, at least brought a new franchise onto the show AND gave it a win, so I'd give it an 8.
Overall this season is a 4-5/10 imo, hope it picks up a bit more after Silver wins.
Who can fight him?
2
needs more Marvel and DC
Not good
Jinx vs Harley: 1/10 (frick off, damaged girl fight is dumb)
Wanda vs Zatanna: 5/10 (meh, long time rivalry)
Tanjiro vs Jonathan: 3/10 (ew, was probably popularized by reddit)
Thor vs Vegeta: 5/10 (meh, it's okay)
Omni-Man vs Homelander: 5/10 (meh, really popular with the gen pop)
Magneto vs Tetsuo: 1/10 (fricking awful, both had much better)
Hercules vs Sun Wukong: 10/10 (actually great)
Boba Fett vs Predator: 8/10 (long legacy and good)
Excalibur vs Raiden: -10/10 (fricking shill fight)
James Bond vs John Wick: 3/10 (both had better but they tried to play the numbers here)
Black Adam vs Apocalypse: 5/10 (meh, sort of long time rivalry)
Xeno Trunks vs Archie Silver: 8/10 (pretty good)
Average: 3.6/10 (F)
5/10
Would otherwise be a 4 but having a mythology fight props it up a bit
Starting with 6 out of 10 and adding or subtracting.
>Harley VS Jinx: Middle of the road. -0.5
>Scarlet Witch VS Zatanna: -0.5 for having another DC right after
>Jonathan VS Tanjiro: Neutral
>Thor VS Vegeta: -1 for overused series and combatants with barely anything new to cover, doesn't get less because it's least been a while since Vegeta's last apperance
>Omni-Man VS Homelander: Obvious stomp is outweighed by that it was relevant and did well for several reasons. +1
>Magneto VS Tetsuo: Magneto has no good opponents that people also actually care about. This was lopsided, and the thematics are faulty, as well. -1
>Hercules VS Sun Wukong: Interesting, unique subject matter, garnered interest. +1
>Boba Fett VS Predator: Works well enough, Predator was long overdue, repeat contenders aren't as interesting, though. +0.5
>James Bond VS John Wick: Both were good choices, just not against each other. -0.5
>Black Adam VS Apocalypse: DC VS Marvel that nobody genuinely cares about. -1
>Trunks VS Silver: Bland match made at least more interesting with the composite aspect. +0.5
I type too long, but here's the final score: 4.5 / 10. Depending on Sauron's match, and if anything else is interesting, they have a shot of getting back to 6, 7, or 8 if they're lucky. Using Sauron/LOTR alone gets it back to 5, but it remains to be seen if the match-up sucks
I forgot Raiden VS Excalibur, I guess they're at 3.5 now. Damn.
>harley vs jinx
Didn't care, was only interesting to see a non marvel rep finally beat a DC one
>zatanna vs scarlet witch
Was ok I guess
>tanjiro vs jonathan
Ok tok I guess
>thor vs vegeta
Liked it tbh
>omni man vs homelander
Was an entertaining stomp
>magneto vs tetsuo
Meh
>hercules vs sun wukong
Was interesting
>boba fett vs predator
Ok
>excalibur vs raiden
Obvious shill match
>bond vs wick
Meh
>adam vs apocalypse
Didn't care much really
Overall its a 4/10 for me so far.
Happy 30th birthday, Art of Fighting. Where the frick is the fighting game episode this season?
Either before or after the Halloween episode, and its gonna MK again. Frick you. Frick Street Fighter. Frick SNK. And most importantly hugg Makoto.
Are we ever gonna get rid of the lame host character animations so they can put that budget into better battle animations?
You could try asking them in Twitter, as Speedy suggested, but they seem to ignore anyone that isn't figuratively sucking their dicks. Such is the danger of the echo chamber.
No
Is Heroes/Xenoverse actually that strong or is it fanwank? I'm having a really hard time visualizing a linear power system like Ki all of a sudden erupting into infinities
It's a little of both.
It's kind of both. They're strong, but people vastly oversell how much said strength matters a lot of the time and ignore all their myriad weaknesses.
New Kenshin anime trailer. If they're willing to ignore Watsuki's child porn scandal, we could get Kenshin in a Death Battle. Didn't Ben want to Kenshin in DB?
Maybe he could take on Jin from Samurai Champloo
If they decide to make a joke match this season, think Squirrel Girl would be a contender?
Eeww
At the idea of another joke match or at SG showing up in DB?
Yeah marvel's really owning this season. 3/4 wins. Not bad.
Only in a season that didn't have several Marvel characters already.
Excalibur vs Raiden was the joke match
Next thread, move whenever.
Nah, i dont feeel like it
REAL next thread. Discusses a more based matchup than the other one.