Sorry to added it mate but >Verbalase Charile vs Zone Ankha >Charile and Verbalase vs Ankha and Villager vs Mordecai and Twilight: Battle of the Crackships for JPG name
I honestly think this is going to happen in S11. Touhou's been requested for a while, meido is one of the most popular 2hus and lacks any super esoteric powers, and Dragon Ball guarantees views.
Reimu is pretty boring death battle contestaant >lmao I'll just float until enemy gives up or tires
Only reason she ever fights in Touhou is that there's an incident going on that requires her to play the game
What will they do for Hit's analysis? Do we know his backstory or something else? I'm not too into DBS so I'm asking sincerely, does he stick around after Goku defeats him?
Yeah he's there in the Tournament of Power, but we really don't know anything about his past. The only thing we've seen him do in U6 is a job where he kills a mob boss (who interestingly he could pull into his own time skip while everyone else is frozen) and later when he finds Frost to recruit him for the ToP. Otherwise anything else goes into Heroes territory, the manga doesn't do anything with the other universes either
Why would people want Sakuya Vs Hit? Doesn’t Two Hoes get wanked to universal or something? That’s like saying they don’t want to do Kenshiro Vs Saitama because people are upset over the crappy DBX and not because of the fat gap in stats. Also didn’t Dio also lose his DBX against Al lol.
He didn't say he wants it. When it came up on the ballot banter, he said that a lot of people seem to push the matchup because they think he likes it, when in reality it's an "idk" for him, and he just wants a matchup for Hit. Same one where he said Dio vs Sakuya was the best OMM.
it looks like liquid cheese and jobbed to being moved slightly to the right and can't even kill the thing it's meant to kill without that thing being submerged in it
The difference is Saitama self aware enough to hate his Mary sue status.
This series plays it straight as unapologetic Mary Sue power fantasy . Don't even get interesting fight because all he does is walk in and say die and that's it.
another anon pointed this out in another thread but he's vulnerable to being manipulated
you wouldn't need some multiversal s tier whatever to beat him if a highschooler can control him with her breasts
I mean, in the latest chapter it shown that someone has built robots based on his childhood friend to kill him and it almost worked. He's not invincible
exactly
maybe he's unbeatable in a straight fight idk but the right character could totally manipulate him
anon in the other thread said makima could do it but i also think people like light yagami or lelouch would easily """beat""" him just by pure manipulation without any fighting at all
exactly
maybe he's unbeatable in a straight fight idk but the right character could totally manipulate him
anon in the other thread said makima could do it but i also think people like light yagami or lelouch would easily """beat""" him just by pure manipulation without any fighting at all
I just re watched Adora Vs Diana (She-Ra Vs WW) and it was more close than I initially remember. And besides the models the fight looks really good, the choreography is top tier.
But what really surprised me was that they used universal scaling for Diana's speed. Is this the first time they did this?
Nah Wondey vs Thor was 3 years prior, she got the "blocked shattered god pieces from across the universe" thing. Might have even got the Thawne thing too
Some people say Atrocitus, but I don't really see it. Gladiator also gets mentioned sometimes. Saitama makes a bit of thematic sense, but like Saitama is a nightmare for VS these days. Infinite is a bit of a villainous reflection, but unless you wank Game Sonic it is a spite stomp.
What about Drax the Destroyer?
I honestly don’t understand the appeal of this MU since it’s effectively just like the same as doing Barry Allen Vs Dyspo, or Toppo Vs Hal Jordon. The only difference is that MM gets like constantly compared to Supes in terms of strength so it’d be frickhuge(r) stomp.
>Kino
But MM’s fighting style consists of shooting lasers, punching hard, and mind haxing sometimes. His abilities like invisibility or shape shifting wouldn’t exactly need to come into play against a guy he’s fighting in the middle of space, so he’d really just be fighting like a dragon ball character save for becoming big to do a big punch or eye beam blast. I mean if that’s what you’re into then whatever, but I wouldn’t really call that much of a contrast in fighting styles.
Jiren doesn't have an extensive enough toolset to withstand Johnz' special abilities. There is nothing stopping him from mind controlling Jiren, which he has done to not only Superman but many of the Leagues heavy hitters seimultaneously and his mind operates im planck time. Jiren has given no indication he can withstand such powerful mental attacks.
1. Jiren is beyond time. The fact that Jonz still struggles with Planck time means he's dead before he knows it.
2. DBZ characters can resist telepathy if they want. Explained in the Majin saga.
>Jiren is beyond time
A complete lie. That thing Hit does is a really low tier time ability. Fricking Guldo has better time powers than him.
Not every telepath is the same. Johnz can mind control Superman and other powerful beings who are known to have immense mental fortitude surpassing anything shown in Dragon Ball/Z/Super.
You're basically making up complete unsibstantiated fantasy.
They're probably gonan throw him at something like Atrocitus or Sentry.
Dragon Ball wank means it's basically locked into capeshit fights, unless it's a gimmie fight, but nobody outside of /dbs/ likes Jiren enough for them to do it for him.
Goku absorbed that form into his base. That same base that got scratched by a bullet and could not budge a guy made of iron. A stronger form then got knock around by a train. Even after getting quadrillions of times more powerful he never again shook the universe even when going all out against serious threats trying to kill him.
The writing is just inconsistant. The anime in particular writes what is entertaining and cool rather than what makes sense or is consistant. Remember when Beerus got hurt by spicy food and Champa got hurt by a fricking coffee table?
Before anyone brings him up, Superman suffers from the exact same problem.
Dragon Ball never ascended past Z's level of fighting, so even without the anti feats you still have characters fighting like they're stuck in the Saiyan Saga, it took all the way up until the Super Broly movie for us to get feats on the same level as the universe shaking punches from Battle of Gods.
I don't see why there has to be universe/planet/galaxy shit blowing up every time they fight, they are supposed to be heroes you know and more specifically martial artists, I'd say it's more interesting to have them fight with punches and kicks through an empty mountain area then constantly killing potential civilizations and shit
> and more specifically martial artists
Man the martial arts shit hasn’t been relevant since the end of Dragon Ball and that was 10 arcs ago, they’re martial arts styled flying bricks.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Goku fighting people and wanting to get stronger is related to him being a martial artist
Dragon Ball never ascended past Z's level of fighting, so even without the anti feats you still have characters fighting like they're stuck in the Saiyan Saga, it took all the way up until the Super Broly movie for us to get feats on the same level as the universe shaking punches from Battle of Gods.
Superman suffers from the exact same issue but worst at least you don't see normal Humans being able to dodge or tanks hits from Goku. with Superman there at least 3 I can think of off the top of my head.
>Sharingan went from copying and predicting Jutsu to being able to manipulate reality, create time loops, and giant megazords
This fricking eye was given so many random asspull powers that aren’t even based on sight
Izanami? What's the point of having kamui and izanami in the same phrase if Obito can't use Izanami? Of course he can't counter that shit, he would job worse than Kabuto did.
Well she doesn't have He-Man scaling, but she has some wankability regarding overriding her universal threat failsafe. Otherwise her final full power is like planetary surface scale.
For opponents, she's in a bit of weird spot regarding theming and power. It is probably a meme, but Donkey Kong is one of the match ups I've seen mentioned. Other than that we have Madoka, Usasgi, and Star.
Goku has shown skill plenty of times. SSB Goku VS Gas Show that he can hold his own against someone hundreds of times stronger by simply spamming instant transmission across the universe.
Or memorizing Hit's fighting style to predict where he will appear after he time skip.
You wouldn't get this from his performance in death battle since he's tend to be portrayed as being rock, stupid and having no capacity for strategy.
Yeah he kinda does, but it don't matter how nerdy his glasses are, how bad his posture is or how mild mannered he acts.
YOU CANNOT CONVINCE ME THAT KAL-EL OF KRYPTON STANDING AT 6'3'', WITH THAT NARROW WAISTED MASS MONSTER PHYSIQUE, GOES UNNOTICED AS CLARK KENT
After watching the X-files episode "All Things" (Season 7 episode 17) I must conclude that I was wrong - Special agent Dana Scully would lose against Hijiri Byakuren, and as such, cannot infact solo all of Touhou.
I must apologize spamming that earlier while I was lacking critical information
Because she is a woman, JJK's author is from the same old school Kishimoto came from, they don't "Hate women" outright, but is painfully obvious they don't really care or think they are as interesting as male characters (Hell, Kishimoto said he would rather date Shikamaru than any of his female characters, and Gege dislikes drawing female characters)
Also everyone in JJK is more interesting than Yuji, even fricking Nobara
Villain Descendingsword, the Opening Door, is a god slayer. When most of the humans died after Armageddon and the Gods turned their backs on them, Villain made it a point to hunt down these entities in Imprisoning Star Forest and non-exist them. His mind is incomprehensibly vast, allowing Villain to create numerous equations and algorithms with a variety of effects.
Durability
Simply resists subatomic wave function annihilation
Easily blocks a roundhouse kick with infinite energy behind it
Gets attacked with rain and tsunamis that floods 99.99 percent of the Omniverse, completely devastating that portion beyond regeneration
The rain alone can annihilate infinite Multiverses
Ignores an attack that completely burns his soul
Walks through an environment that’s Absolute Zero and Infinite Temperature at the same time
Resists anti-existence equations
Shrugs off an attack that disintegrates a level of infinity, which encompasses an "infinite amount of Hyperverses, an infinite amount of Megaverses, each composed of infinite Multiverses, each composed of infinite universes”
Villain then tanks infinity of those attacks simultaneously
Speed
Dodges an omnipresent lightning attack, meaning the lightning was infinitely everywhere at once
Nearly instantly reads through a book with infinite pages, and infinite paragraphs on those pages
Once went through a hotel with infinite rooms
Skills
Utilizes every martial art created up until the last century
Has complete control over his physical and mental functions
All known experience in fighting arts is instantly transported into his mind
Algorithms/Equations##
General
Can calculate infinite equations without even beginning to get fatigued
After thinking for a while, his brain becomes 18 times more powerful than all of the information in the endless existence
>Villain Descendingsword
I hope you made that name up because if not that’s embarrassing for whoever created this character. Imagine naming your OC “Hero Risingblade” or “Bad Guy Dropping Weapon”
...Maybe it's a zone of completely potential energy? Where there's no atomic motion, but there's infinite potential for motion? Heat wouldn't transfer in such a system but would be "stored" in particles, though that's already odd because heat is atomic motion.
a strong enough reality bender should be capable of that. i just don't know how you end up in that situation... besides of course lionel being a self indulgent power level obsessed nincompoop. and all the characters look like suburbanites cosplaying as hood rats too
It's still logically impossible like wishing to be the tallest person and the shortest at the same time.
Of course Suggsverse characters are like this on purpose.
As they have Tranceded normal logic instead uses Suggslogic https://suggsverse.fandom.com/wiki/Suggslogic
So they can do logically impossible shit like dividing by 0. Moving at infinite speed while being complete motionless. Etc
>anti-logic for power
This actually does sound like an super power that would be wanked to high heaven.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Isn’t that just reality warping.
4 months ago
Anonymous
RW is just bending physics.
4 months ago
Anonymous
so you're an expert. you have a phd in reality warping. you're a reality warper and only you can define it huh?
4 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, that's why i think it ought to be a reality bender's doing. a reality bender could probably make it hot and cold at once but if the only purpose of doing it is to have the one guy no sell it that's hilarious
I feel like reality warping while bypassing physical impossible things. They still have to follow some basic logic.
You can't just create a square triangle that's also a ball.
Or surpass omnipotence.
Or Create a negative infinite amount clones that exist but also doesn't exist That can move everywhere instantaneously without moving. Like Suggsverse characters can.
4 months ago
Anonymous
if reality is literally, LITERALLY subjective to an entity who can freely subvert and completely change it, then "logic", especially our logic, goes out the window. you're unimaginative if you can't imagine practical contradictions
4 months ago
Anonymous
You saying all reality warpers should be able to be beyond omnipotent?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>beyond omnipotent
Nonsense term. Omnipotence is absolute, meaning that there's nothing "beyond" it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
With normal logic yes omnipotent is unsurpassable. Becaue it's literal definition. But Suggsverse characters can become beyond omnipotent with suggslogic. Kinda like how a square triangle ball contradicts the definition of a square triangle and ball.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Then that makes them frauds that don't get to omnipotence.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>With normal logic yes omnipotent is unsurpassable.
If it's not true logically then it's by definition false.
4 months ago
Anonymous
no. but they should be capable of at least a damn paradox. we can conceptualize paradoxes, it's not an olympic world record long jump in logic to say a liberally written reality warper could put paradoxes into practice. hell, it would be a creative application of reality warping. not sure about hot and cold at the same time though LOL. what would that even do to an organism?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>our logic
There is no such thing as "our logic".
There's logic (i.e. that which can be) and then there's illogic (i.e. word diarreah)
4 months ago
Anonymous
clearly a reality warper would have a logic different to our own... this might be the most boring, dull and hylic infested unimaginative general in the whole website
With normal logic yes omnipotent is unsurpassable. Becaue it's literal definition. But Suggsverse characters can become beyond omnipotent with suggslogic. Kinda like how a square triangle ball contradicts the definition of a square triangle and ball.
shut your goofy ass up Lionel
4 months ago
Anonymous
>clearly a reality warper would have a logic different to our own...
Again, there is no "our logic," there's logic and then there's the lack thereof.
>this might be the most boring, dull and hylic infested unimaginative general in the whole website
It has nothing to do with a lack of imagination. You simply don't understand what logic is.
Logic is a qualifier for existence, and it goes beyond any silly abstractions or veridical paradoxes.
4 months ago
Anonymous
nah, you just want to overcomplicate things. for what reason i dunno. seems... illogical
4 months ago
Anonymous
Depends on how high you go on the warp scale
4 months ago
Anonymous
Why would someone who can alter reality as they please new to adhere to logic in any way? If you can make two plus two equal fish by warping reality then you’ve already fricked with logic. Turning water into wine is fricking with logic, reversing gravity or even turning a man into a woman/vice versa is fricking with logic, because those are all things that are impossible logically. If you can warp reality you are already going against all forms of logic.
4 months ago
Anonymous
*need to
4 months ago
Anonymous
Can you even visually imagine what a square circle would look like? Can you imagine what someone who would be the tallest man in the world And also the shortest man at the same time would look like? Logically impossible things are usually so nonsensical. You can't even visually picture them little alone Create them even if you had the power of reality warping.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You didn’t even engage with my point lol. >Reality warpers can frick with logic because that’s what their powers entail? Well can YOU do that big shot?? Didn’t think so
A reality warper is already going to have an imagination or sense of logical (or rather none at all) far beyond a normal human. Not only that, but doing something BEYOND human imagination is ALSO part of a reality warpers toolset, because they can freely meld the world around them as they please. Can YOU imagine how someone can get to 2 + 2 = Fish? Doesn’t matter because a reality warper could make it true regardless. Can YOU imagine how someone can be dead and alive, non existent and omnipresent, left and right, up and down, fake and real all at the same time? Doesn’t matter because a reality warper can make themself be that as they have the power to outright break what we see as logical.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Can YOU imagine how someone can get to 2 + 2 = Fish? Doesn’t matter because a reality warper could make it true regardless.
What does 2 + 2 = Fish even mean? Does it even have any meaning? Or are you just trying to ascribe meaning to inherently meaningless nonsense?
4 months ago
Anonymous
but a reality warper SHOULD be able to do that
4 months ago
Anonymous
Do what? You haven't described what "2 + 2 = fish," represents.
You might as well say "a reality warper should be able to..." and then slam your fist on your keyboard, as so "....gbfv thjnmuyg hjnuymg hyjnumgt."
Words were developed to help us convey ideas. If you don't have an idea that you're trying to convey, then it's pointless to use words to describe it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
See, a reality warper would make "...gbfv thjnmuyg hjnuymg hyjnumgt" make logical sense. Not by changing the language, it would simply make sense. Simple as
4 months ago
Anonymous
>See, a reality warper would make "...gbfv thjnmuyg hjnuymg hyjnumgt"
4 months ago
Anonymous
>See, a reality warper would make "...gbfv thjnmuyg hjnuymg hyjnumgt" make logical sense. Not by changing the language, it would simply make sense. Simple as
What do you mean with "make [it] make logical sense" you keep using words, but you're not describing anything coherent. What are you referring it?
4 months ago
Anonymous
That it would make sense, dummy
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, he could do that
4 months ago
Anonymous
>It's still logically impossible like wishing to be the tallest person and the shortest at the same time.
I'm the shortest and tallest person in the room.
>Moving at infinite speed while being complete motionless. Etc
I stand motionless in a ship that moves infinitely fast.
Being the shortest and tallest simultaneously contradicts the definition of those terms. The tallest person is the one with the greatest height, while the shortest person has the least height. These are mutually exclusive characteristics within any given context.
Even if there was literally no one else in the room but you, it still wouldn't make no fricking sense.
Even if you were riding on something what infinite speed and not moving. You are still technically moving which why a law of inertia will still affect you if this vehicle was suddenly stopped Because even though you are not moving you are in motion And technically moving.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You’re slowly starting to understand. You’re almost there. It doesn’t make sense at all does it? And yet a reality warper could make it real despite it being fully illogical. It’s almost like…their power BREAKS logic by default…
Cold fire, hot ice, falling up, walking upside down, bro science... these things strike fear into a pseud's mind. Please understand
I have no idea why it’s so hard for them to understand lol. It’s literally just going against logic, but they’re trying to wank logic as if it’s some sort of unbreakable rule that no one can ever surpass, as if the concept of a human flying doesn’t already do that.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>You’re slowly starting to understand. You’re almost there. It doesn’t make sense at all does it? And yet a reality warper could make it real despite it being fully illogical. It’s almost like…their power BREAKS logic by default…
No. I understood that you were an idiot from the beginning.
You don't refer to anything. If something breaks logic then it simply means that it can't exist. If a reality warper could bring it into existence then it was logical all along.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Cold fire, hot ice, falling up, walking upside down, bro science... these things strike fear into a pseud's mind. Please understand
4 months ago
Anonymous
Reality warping doesn't come with mind fill with nonsense As part of its power set. Most people with reality warping abilities wouldn't be able to do things they cannot mental visualize.
Some reality warp are taking a math equation and turning it into a fish. While physically impossible isn't logically contradictory in any manner. And I can definitely mentally visualize that. Hell any matter manipulator can probably do that too.
But if Someone asking to be the tallest man in the world. While simultaneously being the shortest man in the world at the same time I can't. Someone asking for a stick that is infinite in length while also having the length less than 1 inch at the same time. I can't.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It makes perfect sense. You'd get measured and they'd say you're 9ft and 2ft tall. You understand what cold is and you understand what hot is... just make both true using reality warping powers. You just need the what not the how or why not.
>See, a reality warper would make "...gbfv thjnmuyg hjnuymg hyjnumgt"
I asked if you could visualize what the tallest man who is also the shortest man in the world at the same time would look like?
4 months ago
Anonymous
I just told you. He'd look like both
4 months ago
Anonymous
And how would that looking like both look like ?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Your brain would receive sensory input that it's both. Whether you want to submit to that reality or not
4 months ago
Anonymous
I ask you to do it. You claim you can? How about a stick drawing?
4 months ago
Anonymous
You want me to warp reality to prove a point?
4 months ago
Anonymous
i'm asking you to just fricking draw it.
If you could mentally picture it then drawing it should be a cake walk, especially if you're just using stick figures.
I mean, it's way more convincing than giving me some stupid vague description with no details at all And expecting me to put it together.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You can do that yourself.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>>"Oh yeah, I can totally visualize it perfectly. I won't give you any details and you will have to draw it yourself."
Keke you're soo clever X'D
4 months ago
Anonymous
I told you what it would be like...
4 months ago
Anonymous
And that is........?
All you did was say "both" and refuse to elaborate or give any detail description
Almost like your full of shit.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm convinced you're being obtuse on purpose now
4 months ago
Anonymous
Okay and WHY would someone with the capability to alter reality in any way they wish have to adhere to NORMAL logic. You guys STILL haven’t answered that question and just keep going back to “but I can’t imagine that so it’s impossible!” as if someone with the ability to RW would have the same limitations.
>You’re slowly starting to understand. You’re almost there. It doesn’t make sense at all does it? And yet a reality warper could make it real despite it being fully illogical. It’s almost like…their power BREAKS logic by default…
No. I understood that you were an idiot from the beginning.
You don't refer to anything. If something breaks logic then it simply means that it can't exist. If a reality warper could bring it into existence then it was logical all along.
>NOOOOO YOU CAN’T JUST IMPLY THAT BEING ABLE TO FRICK REALITY MEANS THAT YOU DON’T NEED TO LISTEN TO NORMAL LOGIC!!! LOGIC IS THE STRONGEST!!
Guess what nerdbro, if a reality warper makes something that doesn’t exist, exist, or makes something that’s illogical, logical, it’s not because it already existed or was already logical, it’s because they MADE it real with their power. We’re limited to our own scope and sense of logic, they aren’t. >b-b-but uh humans don’t have our own sense of logic *SNORT* it’s the universes sense of logic that we follow!
Everyone has their own idea of what’s logical and what isn’t. Trying to say that we all follow the same sense of it is just silly.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Why would they not have normal logic?
Are you telling me that the moment you acquire reality warping? You would just become moronic?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Guess what nerdbro, if a reality warper makes something that doesn’t exist, exist, or makes something that’s illogical, logical, it’s not because it already existed or was already logical, it’s because they MADE it real with their power. We’re limited to our own scope and sense of logic, they aren’t.
If something can be made real then it was always logical.
And again, there is no "our logic."
>Everyone has their own idea of what’s logical and what isn’t. Trying to say that we all follow the same sense of it is just silly.
Your idea of what logic isn't logic.
You speak on a subject you're ignorant on, and you've gotten lost in a maze of informalism.
4 months ago
Anonymous
picture a man running laps here. for all intents and purposes it makes no sense. but a reality warper would wiggle his magic little fingers and make it doable. in other words the man would run laps unimpeded by the fact it should make no sense do you understand now?????
4 months ago
Anonymous
That's an optical illusion.
4 months ago
Anonymous
anon it's a drawing. it doesn't have to be an optical illusion
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's an optical illusion. If you disagree with that then you're simply wrong.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Well I probably could visually imagine it if a reality warper made it
4 months ago
Anonymous
Basically. I think what I'm really saying is that Anti-Logic sounds like the kind of excuse/explanation of a reality warper's powers given by a series which thinks it's smarter than it really is.
yeah, that's why i think it ought to be a reality bender's doing. a reality bender could probably make it hot and cold at once but if the only purpose of doing it is to have the one guy no sell it that's hilarious
>It's still logically impossible like wishing to be the tallest person and the shortest at the same time.
that's false
logic is not the fundation of the universe. It is relative to the forces in there.
>Moving at infinite speed while being complete motionless
that's completely logical
speed increases your time making you more motionless
Time-Stop is all about increasing others' time. If you actually have no time (like light), you would be omnipresent
>It's still logically impossible like wishing to be the tallest person and the shortest at the same time.
that's false
is not the fundation of the universe. It is relative to the forces in there.
I love it how your response had literally fricking nothing to do with the post you're reply to. So can you visualize someone being the tallest man in the world while simultaneously being the shortest?
at infinite speed while being complete motionless
that's completely logical.
No isn't Please take your pseudo science and misunderstanding Of physics elsewhere
4 months ago
DoctorGreen
>So can you visualize someone being the tallest man in the world while simultaneously being the shortest?
Yes. Do you not understand relativity?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Then describe how that would look like Since you can visualize it so fricking well.
4 months ago
DoctorGreen
>visualize
you know relativity has to do with light just as much as visualization does.
it warps, anon.
There are many examples due to geometry and shit.
Here is one. >Be you >See small guy >He is the smallest guy >notice that the space He is makes no sense. >His head is reaching the ceiling >Notices that He wraps (down) the space around him >the room is wrapped >shoot at his head >bullets hits his torso >shoot at his feet >bullets hits his torso
Bonues points: >another guy enters the room >Ask him about the guy that reaches the ceiling >guy claims weird guy does not reach the ceiling, is small and the room wraps (up) making him taller >other guys enter >now there are two camps >but none can agree how much tall or small he is
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm convinced you're being obtuse on purpose now
That was near nonsensical babble you worth at best Sounds, it's like he's just warping The space and perception around him as opposed to truly being the tallest and the smallest simultaneously.
I'm convinced you're being obtuse on purpose now.
4 months ago
DoctorGreen
>he's just warping The space
ok, genius.
vizualize how tall or small things are without space.
I like you to taste your own medicine so go on
4 months ago
Anonymous
That My point. Bwong the tallest and is shortest at the same time is logically impossible and you can't properly visualize it.
Imagine a stick that is infinitely long but also less than an inch long at the same time. You can't.
>It's still logically impossible like wishing to be the tallest person and the shortest at the same time.
I'm the shortest and tallest person in the room.
>Moving at infinite speed while being complete motionless. Etc
I stand motionless in a ship that moves infinitely fast.
deadass. feels the exact same when the goons on reddit argue abt multiversal scaling like high complex vs outer vs hyper. nobody cares, they're all made up terms anyway that aren't even consistent half the time
Ya ever been torn with an Omnilander match where you can’t decide if you want your hated characters humiliated or not worthy of being in Death Battle at all? That’s me and TMNT vs RWBY, I wanna see Donatello flex on every weapon with his staff
>That it would make sense, dummy
What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about meaning, not whether or not it makes sense. There was no meaning behind the string of symbols. Just as there's no meaning behind your string of words. Your sentence purports meaning, but it does not carry it.
>Finally get through the World of Light in Smash Bros Ultimate >Check vsbw for Galeem and Dharkon >>>>>>>>>>>>Can fight the fighters amplified by Spirits of Palkia and Arceus, the former of whom controls all of space and the latter of whom appeared from nothing and created the world and sky). >Arceus Spirit is a 4* neutral primary spirit, with 10030 power, three slots, and no special effect >LoZ NES Link is a 4* neutral primary spirit, with 10459 power, three slots, and boosts sword damage
hmm yes universe ~ universe+ attack potency LoZ link
That would be a kinda funny idea for a character. Someone who theoretically has reality warping powers but can't use them because they can't visualize anything
That's literally a bleach character. Motherfricker killed himself with his own rw power Because he could not imagine himself being stronger than kenpachi zaraki
Gremmy's fight is interestin in this regard
He could have insta-kill Base Kenpachi but that guy autism convinced the kid to battle so Gremmy just started throwing shit at him
He did imagine Kenpachi's powers (therefore He doesn't need full knowledge) but those powers were too much for his iwn powers.
Later Kenpachi is shown unable to withstand his own powers (Bankai)
Johan Liebert could easily kill Scion from Worm despite their power disparity. If jack slash could convince scion into omniciding earth, Johan could easily talk Scion the continental destroyer into killing himself.
>That's incredibly disrespectful to people who believe in the religion
if they feel disrespected, remember the old sayin:
and the christian cries out in pain as he strikes you
Looking at this and the previous thread it seems like it's >dumb unga mathematical dimension stuff now only peaks at high 1-b, so spamming cardinals won't get you higher >to get to 1-a you have to have actual meta-fictional stuff, like actually being transcendant above reality and viewing it as not real, not just generic bugs buny stuff >to be tier 0 you have to be a monad, and if there are any contradictions you instantly get booted out of the tier
Not perfect but it seems better to me at least
>dumb unga mathematical dimension stuff now only peaks at high 1-b, so spamming cardinals won't get you higher
makes sense
there are characters that trascend it so they wouldn't give a frick about cardinality in the first place
>who the frick could beat a composite Jesus?
We
Context: Among religious schools, Jesus falls in the religion where God and the Self are different (creation is not the creator).
So any religion that has that "Creation and Creator are the same" scales higher
Mmmm if you believe in the Trinity the Father is not the Son but they're both considered God. If you don't believe in the Trinity then Jesus of Nazareth still accomplished miracles thanks to God's power. Not that I'm in the business of powerscaling religion
>they're both considered God
point is that we are a self too but we are not God.
Christianity has this stuff about nature of God and human nature to explain this trinity.
but falls apart if you start searching the possibility of a monad that makes the natures
Anime lied to you, the longinus stabbing Jesus was just them confirming he was already dead, literally akin to poking a corpse with a stick. Eva and Symphogear hyping the lance as a god killer are working through a language barrier.
Madara values Might Makes Right vs Superman's Might Serves Right. He can not fathom the idea of a world without some super powered being controlling the masses, because that's everything he was doing, being a God to control the masses as he saw fit.
For a second I thought the bullets were actually tearing through the cape and was about to question what kind of bullets they were before realizing they're just impact lines
LopiBats. The deranged Batgay. Someone posted a picture of Batman jobbing to Wonder Woman and he lost his shit. The rest of thread was filled with spam and killed all discussion.
Its really bad, the only ones who pretend to like it are lefty culture warriors who want own the righties and fans of the series who point out Rick cried over the movies for being unlike the books..and then doing a 180 immediately with the show.
Its really bad, the only ones who pretend to like it are lefty culture warriors who want own the righties and fans of the series who point out Rick cried over the movies for being unlike the books..and then doing a 180 immediately with the show.
Giorno is the one character who actually deserves to get fraudchecked (and I mean debunked as some omnipotent being, not simply losing) because he's fricking boring and GER is the Alien X of anime.
Is he the biggest fraud in Marvel? >Referred to as the strongest fighter in the entire universe >Refuses to fight Thor because he used his hammer >Refuses to even let Hulk hit him once >Jobbed to She-Hulk
Probably the Hulkbuster. But you also didn't mention that Ben Grimm broke Tryco's ribs. One of the most mishandled Marvel cosmics IMO. At least others have gotten time to shine to balance out the jobbing
I mean yeah it's bullet level vs brick wall level and bullets can't destroy a brick wall while Golden Experience can I think and Joker died to a bullet meaning he's weaker
Was Popeye Saitama's best MU? They have decent connections and the result is fairly interesting without feeling like a spite match for Saitama.
What other opponents could Saitama fight that makes an interesting battle?
Nta but I believe he's referring to Saiatama and Garou wiping out a whole section of space while Popeye was put around star level ap wise (wouldn't have helped Saitama since he can't really destroy Pops but whatevs). He also can manipulate hyperdimensional gates and apparently has infinite growth potential the longer a fight lasts where his next punch will nearly kill the previous one (based on what Garou was saying with his adaptation ability)
[...]
After his fight with God Awakened Garou we know Saitama gets exponentially stronger whenever he fights anyone even close to his strength, which means you need to be both much stronger than him AND able to instantly blitz him to win.
Popeye by the nature of his toon-force can't blitz anyone, he needs to start losing and eat his spinach before he toon-force wins. In the time it would take Popeye to eat his spinach, Saitama would become stronger than Popeye's toon-force.
And yes, the whole hyperdimension thing no-sells Popeye simply erasing Saitama or whatever and means Popeye would have to actually beat Saitama in a fight. But as I said, that would take too long and Saitama's infinite growth would carry hi to a win.
Popeye can't blitz because he needs to eat spinach first, so he loses.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Popeye leaves the animation and rips Saitama's animation cell apart, throwing him into the garbage
What then, anon
4 months ago
Anonymous
Saitama no-sells it with time travel.
4 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
[...]
Reverse causality punch or some other nonsense ability he gets during the infinite growth period fighting Popeye before Popeye eats his spinach ends the fight before it begins.
so he just gets random bullshit that lets him win? gay
4 months ago
Anonymous
pretty sure Saitama forgot how to do that after time travelling
>had to be taught how to time travel >immediately forgets how to do so afterwards
Lol
[...]
Anon, Popeye didn't even need spinach to resist complete reality erasure. How is Saitama gonna kill a guy that can't even be erased?
The point is that Saitama's growth would give him some power capable of beating Popeye.
We now know for a fact that if you give him a chance to grow, he'll get previously unheard-of powers and win even if that win should be impossible.
Saitama’s gonna need way better feats than what he’s currently got to stand a chance against anyone from Super.
Feats don't matter for him, he had no time travel feats before he needed one to beat Garou.
This just means the fan-theory that Saitama gets whatever power he needs to win is canon.
I would argue that there's definitely Super characters who could/would kill Saitama before he has a chance to experience any growth, but anyone who gives him a chance to grow would lose.
Saitama would job to Vegeta (who'd just immediately blitz him) but beat Goku (who'd give him a chance to get stronger then lose)
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Anon completely misunderstands what Saitama is about and what his "powers" are
4 months ago
Anonymous
>had to be taught how to time travel >immediately forgets how to do so afterwards
Lol
[...]
[...]
Reverse causality punch or some other nonsense ability he gets during the infinite growth period fighting Popeye before Popeye eats his spinach ends the fight before it begins.
Anon, Popeye didn't even need spinach to resist complete reality erasure. How is Saitama gonna kill a guy that can't even be erased?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Stop kidding yourself. Time Travel would mean nothing. Saitama simply cannot kill Popeye and Popeye can just leave the cartoon. Saitama cannot even turn back time if he is dead or the cartoon has stopped.
Popeye can also still kill Saiatam in one punch. Saitama cannot bring himself back to life like Popeye can.
Do not insist on dying on that hill Anon.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Saitama's growth gives him the powers he needs to win so he simply would win.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>dies >can't 'grow'
Oh no
4 months ago
Anonymous
Like I said already, by the nature of Popeye's toon-force powers Popeye can't blitz.
He needs to fight his opponents without spinach at first and then when he's losing he eats his spinach and wins.
Except that Saitama would have grown so much by the time Popeye eats the spinach that Saitama would win anyway.
Specific feats don't matter with a power like Saitama's, he'd just get whatever he needs to win through his growth. He had zero time travel feats before the Garou fight but that's what he needed so that's what he got.
4 months ago
Anonymous
The nature of Popeye's toonforce powers means he instantly blitzes. He doesn't need spinach to turn Saitama into a stack of muscle bro mangas, and Saitama has no defense against such an attack. Popeye's simply on an unattainable level. Saitama gets one-punched and gagged on. Cope.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>He doesn't need spinach to turn Saitama into a stack of muscle bro mangas
He absolutely does and that's why he loses.
If he could blitz I would concede but he can't.
[...]
Popeye can still walk out of the animation and erase Saitama from it.
Hence why I've been saying he can't beat Popeye
Reverse causality punch or some other nonsense ability he gets during the infinite growth period fighting Popeye before Popeye eats his spinach ends the fight before it begins.
4 months ago
Anonymous
pretty sure Saitama forgot how to do that after time travelling
4 months ago
Anonymous
doesn't this mean he beats all sayans? he just goes back in time and punches sayan babies
why do power-scalers believe that higher dimensional means shit? we see 5th dimensional beings getting killed by falling space ships all the time in Rick and Morty?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Blame Death Battle for wanking it
4 months ago
Anonymous
>we see 5th dimensional beings getting killed by falling space ships all the time in Rick and Morty
Name one
4 months ago
Anonymous
Rick and Morty season 6 episode 1. The pair of Beths argue over this while raiding the Citadel and fighting off five-dimensional monsters that came from the wormhole. these monster dies from Rick's ship and all space debris. Summer was able slice and dice most of them thanks to claws rick gave her,
Nta but I believe he's referring to Saiatama and Garou wiping out a whole section of space while Popeye was put around star level ap wise (wouldn't have helped Saitama since he can't really destroy Pops but whatevs). He also can manipulate hyperdimensional gates and apparently has infinite growth potential the longer a fight lasts where his next punch will nearly kill the previous one (based on what Garou was saying with his adaptation ability)
After his fight with God Awakened Garou we know Saitama gets exponentially stronger whenever he fights anyone even close to his strength, which means you need to be both much stronger than him AND able to instantly blitz him to win.
Popeye by the nature of his toon-force can't blitz anyone, he needs to start losing and eat his spinach before he toon-force wins. In the time it would take Popeye to eat his spinach, Saitama would become stronger than Popeye's toon-force.
And yes, the whole hyperdimension thing no-sells Popeye simply erasing Saitama or whatever and means Popeye would have to actually beat Saitama in a fight. But as I said, that would take too long and Saitama's infinite growth would carry hi to a win.
I'd say Saitama wins via time travel but I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball time Travel doesn't work like One Punch Man. He'd go back and hit base Broly while his guard is down and kill him. This would create a new timeline and the original Broly, Saitama ran from would still exist. So it's probably a tie or a win for Saitama if you consider him killing an alternate timeline version of Broly a won.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Saitama fans would NOT be happy if the only way their guy can beat a Super character is by resorting to time travel.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's not even a real win because the character Saitama was fighting would still exist. Saitama would just kill an alternate-timeline version of them and leave thinking he'd won. That's why I think it's just a tie. It would be a different story if it was Zamasu or Black, Saitama was fighting. They could actually chance him to the new timeline.
4 months ago
Anonymous
as far I know. the popeye universe doesn't follow DBZ time travels rule. they seem the follow the back to the future/ DC / ben 10 time travel rules.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I was just talking about Dragon Ball time travel. You can't just go back in time and kill a character from Dragon Ball. It just creates a new Timeline and doesn't erase the actual character Saitama was fighting. Would be interesting if Saitama fought Goku Black or Zamasu. They could actually chance him, so the fight doesn't just end in a tie.
Not really? Popeye's corpse (or even his nothingness) can eat his spinach (spinach he can summon from nowhere) even in the actual episode they admitted that pure strength and speed wouldn't help Saitama even if he had the advantage.
Why are pretty much all the KLK matchups so shit? >inb4 'it's a shit show'
I get it's not a very high verse in terms of powerscaling, but virtually every single proposed fight I've seen for it is just a stomp one way or another with zero close matches at all.
Pic Related is... decent I suppose. But I'm sure people have loads better matchups for Doffy. >KLK's debut on DB was a Meme-Tier Matchup made solely to give Shadowgays a pity W.
Woke up this morning to find my video dislike bombed. Speedophile is not sending his best. Dislikes are counted for engagement on youtube, not against.
>NO NO HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT OTHER REASON PEOPLE SAY KENSHIN SHOULDN'T BE IN DEATH BATTLE. THE OTHER REASON THAT'S UH...UH...
Speedy and his minions are pathetic.
Muzan's best Match Up
Hey anons, what's good
Wonder Woman Vs Kratos (DC Vs God of War)
That was fast, thanks anon!
pain for every single day
Hostile Minecraft mobs vs Doom 2 demons
>Doom Demons get FRAUDchecked by Minecraft of all things
Hope you still have that list of request that people like before you got away
Oh, I do. Lots of them were done and put in the mega. Still a few to go like
but don't worry, I still have them all.
Also speaking of, Doom anon, I'm having trouble getting proper stuff of the Doom mobs. Do you mind if it's kinda like groups of the two?
No, that'd work. Thanks
Morpheus (Sandman) vs Oberon-Vortigern
Wouldn't Dream stomp Fate as a whole?
Not according to these threads and their Downplay of The Endless.
The Endless have been trapped and killed by mere mortals before. But then Dream just stuffs Azazel in a jar or turns Starro into a necklace.
dream got blasted to tatters by a bunch of stars dangit
Or zero diffs a living embodiment of the 10th Dimension by telling it a bed time story that almost got Mxy too.
Mxy made that story up. It didn't happen.
Prince of Persia (from two thrones) vs EVERY assassin from assassin's creed
thanks
prince low-diffs
Sorry to added it mate but
>Verbalase Charile vs Zone Ankha
>Charile and Verbalase vs Ankha and Villager vs Mordecai and Twilight: Battle of the Crackships for JPG name
second pic will have to be linked due to horse https://mega.nz/file/sMwRnQxS#IqUanqsKPpNSPRLTkH4qV0BcumerEQ05UFMIdFlGDUg
Kromer (Limbus Company) vs Torquemada (2000AD nemesis)
Congorilla vs Gorilla-Man
You forgot the Speedophile roast. Let me help:
Capeworldcomics vs Speedy
Max Payne vs Claude from GTA 3
Requesting the Dawn Group from Sifu vs the Red Lotus from Korra, thanks.
Frisk vs Simon the Digger
GTA protag Battle Royale part 2 (Toni Cipriani vs Victor Vance vs Johnny Klebitz vs Luis Lopez vs Huang Lee)
Billy Butcher Vs The Punisher (The Boys Vs Marvel)
Steve Austin (Six Million Dollar Man) vs Ichirō Inuyashiki (Inuyashiki)
SMDM is for Lou Ferigno Hulk
Dani Rojas vs Rico Rodriguez (Far Cry vs Just Cause)
Caillou vs Little Bill.
Ponderosa's vs Montana's
I honestly think this is going to happen in S11. Touhou's been requested for a while, meido is one of the most popular 2hus and lacks any super esoteric powers, and Dragon Ball guarantees views.
it'll likely be Reimu for the series' first
Reimu is pretty boring death battle contestaant
>lmao I'll just float until enemy gives up or tires
Only reason she ever fights in Touhou is that there's an incident going on that requires her to play the game
What will they do for Hit's analysis? Do we know his backstory or something else? I'm not too into DBS so I'm asking sincerely, does he stick around after Goku defeats him?
Yeah he's there in the Tournament of Power, but we really don't know anything about his past. The only thing we've seen him do in U6 is a job where he kills a mob boss (who interestingly he could pull into his own time skip while everyone else is frozen) and later when he finds Frost to recruit him for the ToP. Otherwise anything else goes into Heroes territory, the manga doesn't do anything with the other universes either
>Can't get Sakuya vs Dio because Swan is still asshurt
Why would people want Sakuya Vs Hit? Doesn’t Two Hoes get wanked to universal or something? That’s like saying they don’t want to do Kenshiro Vs Saitama because people are upset over the crappy DBX and not because of the fat gap in stats. Also didn’t Dio also lose his DBX against Al lol.
Swan says he wants it, Swan also wants Lady Maria Bloodborne vs Nagoriyuki
But…if he wants it then…how is he butthurt over the DBX? I don’t understand the logic here?
He didn't say he wants it. When it came up on the ballot banter, he said that a lot of people seem to push the matchup because they think he likes it, when in reality it's an "idk" for him, and he just wants a matchup for Hit. Same one where he said Dio vs Sakuya was the best OMM.
Oh I just realized that I said Hit instead of Dio.
*Why would people want Sakuya Vs DIO
because I want to see Dip die, I HATE him
What did that guy from Who Framed Roger Rabbit ever do to you?
it looks like liquid cheese and jobbed to being moved slightly to the right and can't even kill the thing it's meant to kill without that thing being submerged in it
Solos fiction
Bro anime got a 6.5/10. Opm season 1 got a 8.5/10 season 2 got 7.5/10.
This shit is just one punch man done worse
Yeah, it's the same concept but without anything that makes OPM work and falling into the same power wanking traps that the genre is know for
The difference is Saitama self aware enough to hate his Mary sue status.
This series plays it straight as unapologetic Mary Sue power fantasy . Don't even get interesting fight because all he does is walk in and say die and that's it.
>Powerscalers confesses to only like overpowered characters
another anon pointed this out in another thread but he's vulnerable to being manipulated
you wouldn't need some multiversal s tier whatever to beat him if a highschooler can control him with her breasts
not really
that's not manipulation it's brute forcing people to love you with your powers
I mean, in the latest chapter it shown that someone has built robots based on his childhood friend to kill him and it almost worked. He's not invincible
exactly
maybe he's unbeatable in a straight fight idk but the right character could totally manipulate him
anon in the other thread said makima could do it but i also think people like light yagami or lelouch would easily """beat""" him just by pure manipulation without any fighting at all
Anti-feats aren't allowed.
I just re watched Adora Vs Diana (She-Ra Vs WW) and it was more close than I initially remember. And besides the models the fight looks really good, the choreography is top tier.
But what really surprised me was that they used universal scaling for Diana's speed. Is this the first time they did this?
Nah Wondey vs Thor was 3 years prior, she got the "blocked shattered god pieces from across the universe" thing. Might have even got the Thawne thing too
I thought that fight had terrible pacing.
thoughts?
Fraud Virgil would stomp. The actual Virgil would get gaped.
Power's a helluva drug
Vergil's for Sesshomaru
Vergil should fight Sesshoumaru
Who should he fight?
he’s own inner demons
wiener and balls torture
Martian Manhunter
Some people say Atrocitus, but I don't really see it. Gladiator also gets mentioned sometimes. Saitama makes a bit of thematic sense, but like Saitama is a nightmare for VS these days. Infinite is a bit of a villainous reflection, but unless you wank Game Sonic it is a spite stomp.
What about Drax the Destroyer?
The matchup that should have happened this season. Jiren vs Martian Manhunter. Pure KINO!!!
MM was already used for SS.
And it was pure shit. Jiren vs MM would have been much better.
I honestly don’t understand the appeal of this MU since it’s effectively just like the same as doing Barry Allen Vs Dyspo, or Toppo Vs Hal Jordon. The only difference is that MM gets like constantly compared to Supes in terms of strength so it’d be frickhuge(r) stomp.
>better connections than SS
>fight animation would be KINO due to their contrasting fighting styles
>Kino
But MM’s fighting style consists of shooting lasers, punching hard, and mind haxing sometimes. His abilities like invisibility or shape shifting wouldn’t exactly need to come into play against a guy he’s fighting in the middle of space, so he’d really just be fighting like a dragon ball character save for becoming big to do a big punch or eye beam blast. I mean if that’s what you’re into then whatever, but I wouldn’t really call that much of a contrast in fighting styles.
Jiren doesn't have an extensive enough toolset to withstand Johnz' special abilities. There is nothing stopping him from mind controlling Jiren, which he has done to not only Superman but many of the Leagues heavy hitters seimultaneously and his mind operates im planck time. Jiren has given no indication he can withstand such powerful mental attacks.
1. Jiren is beyond time. The fact that Jonz still struggles with Planck time means he's dead before he knows it.
2. DBZ characters can resist telepathy if they want. Explained in the Majin saga.
Jiren would dunk on Jonz.
>Jiren is beyond time
A complete lie. That thing Hit does is a really low tier time ability. Fricking Guldo has better time powers than him.
Not every telepath is the same. Johnz can mind control Superman and other powerful beings who are known to have immense mental fortitude surpassing anything shown in Dragon Ball/Z/Super.
You're basically making up complete unsibstantiated fantasy.
They're probably gonan throw him at something like Atrocitus or Sentry.
Dragon Ball wank means it's basically locked into capeshit fights, unless it's a gimmie fight, but nobody outside of /dbs/ likes Jiren enough for them to do it for him.
LATAM and Germany will carry the Jiren views.
>implying they matter
Latin America is 11 billion people spawning 2 billion more every year lil bro
They don't watch Death Battle.
GvS3 passed 150 million views yesterday.
>implying those were mexicans
Not all. There are 73 countries in Latin America
KINO.
Let's be honest... He's not even universal.
… in my headcanon where Goku failed to get stronger after the point where his clash with Beerus caused the universe to shake.
Goku absorbed that form into his base. That same base that got scratched by a bullet and could not budge a guy made of iron. A stronger form then got knock around by a train. Even after getting quadrillions of times more powerful he never again shook the universe even when going all out against serious threats trying to kill him.
The writing is just inconsistant. The anime in particular writes what is entertaining and cool rather than what makes sense or is consistant. Remember when Beerus got hurt by spicy food and Champa got hurt by a fricking coffee table?
Before anyone brings him up, Superman suffers from the exact same problem.
Dragon Ball never ascended past Z's level of fighting, so even without the anti feats you still have characters fighting like they're stuck in the Saiyan Saga, it took all the way up until the Super Broly movie for us to get feats on the same level as the universe shaking punches from Battle of Gods.
I don't see why there has to be universe/planet/galaxy shit blowing up every time they fight, they are supposed to be heroes you know and more specifically martial artists, I'd say it's more interesting to have them fight with punches and kicks through an empty mountain area then constantly killing potential civilizations and shit
> and more specifically martial artists
Man the martial arts shit hasn’t been relevant since the end of Dragon Ball and that was 10 arcs ago, they’re martial arts styled flying bricks.
Goku fighting people and wanting to get stronger is related to him being a martial artist
Superman suffers from the exact same issue but worst at least you don't see normal Humans being able to dodge or tanks hits from Goku. with Superman there at least 3 I can think of off the top of my head.
Csn your favorite character counter Kamui and Izanami?
who?
I don't know wtf that is
You're the better for it.
Kamui yes, Izanami no.
>Sharingan went from copying and predicting Jutsu to being able to manipulate reality, create time loops, and giant megazords
This fricking eye was given so many random asspull powers that aren’t even based on sight
Kisimoto is just a Toriyama wannabe.
My favorite character is Obito, so yes, he can.
I don't think even Obito can counter Izanami since it's specifically a counter to Uchiha.
Izanami? What's the point of having kamui and izanami in the same phrase if Obito can't use Izanami? Of course he can't counter that shit, he would job worse than Kabuto did.
>SHITruto
Any opponents for NuShe-Ra?
I’m going to have sexual intercourse with she-ra
Steven Universe
Well she doesn't have He-Man scaling, but she has some wankability regarding overriding her universal threat failsafe. Otherwise her final full power is like planetary surface scale.
For opponents, she's in a bit of weird spot regarding theming and power. It is probably a meme, but Donkey Kong is one of the match ups I've seen mentioned. Other than that we have Madoka, Usasgi, and Star.
Nu-Lion-O
Or Shezow
Xena if not Xena VS Red Sonja
Doesn't she get KO'd by a regular tank in like a he third episode
>Goku is a fighting martial arts genius
Is this the biggest myth in fiction? When did this fricker ever use smart tactics or techniques in battle?
>Is this the biggest myth in fiction?
That would be that Superman is limitless. Dude gets shit shit kicked in every few issues.
Goku has shown skill plenty of times. SSB Goku VS Gas Show that he can hold his own against someone hundreds of times stronger by simply spamming instant transmission across the universe.
Or memorizing Hit's fighting style to predict where he will appear after he time skip.
You wouldn't get this from his performance in death battle since he's tend to be portrayed as being rock, stupid and having no capacity for strategy.
You forgot the Speedy insult of the day.
Speedy loves Nikocado Avacado's butthole.
both are them will always be less than average
Yes, but at least Niko doesn't support pedophilia.
as far anyone knows
>Death Battle keeps uploading prior fights, but without the research
It's over....
Algorithm no likey long breaks with no uploads. It’s better than nothing.
>this scene when Mind, power and Ki started playing
SOVL.
Superman looks cool in that BDSM gear Louis Lane makes him wear
Yeah he kinda does, but it don't matter how nerdy his glasses are, how bad his posture is or how mild mannered he acts.
YOU CANNOT CONVINCE ME THAT KAL-EL OF KRYPTON STANDING AT 6'3'', WITH THAT NARROW WAISTED MASS MONSTER PHYSIQUE, GOES UNNOTICED AS CLARK KENT
He adopts gamer shoulders to drop 3 inches and round out his gut.
What about his legs? Dude looks like he squats 600 pounds
He consumes five thousand donuts before work every day to make his thighs and legs look fat, then burns it off by flying into the sun.
Baggy pants.
Baggy pants, cut loose in the ass.
why would he need easy exterior access to his ass...?
>anon can only think of anal if ass is so much as mentioned
Mmhmm
problem?
Baggy pants.
AIEEEEEE
SHITku jobbu to NARUKUN
>328
After watching the X-files episode "All Things" (Season 7 episode 17) I must conclude that I was wrong - Special agent Dana Scully would lose against Hijiri Byakuren, and as such, cannot infact solo all of Touhou.
I must apologize spamming that earlier while I was lacking critical information
Thanks for your sincerity anon, good to see good folks being honest.
And hey, you can still claim she solos 99% of Touhou
Opponents for her?
Speedy…..
Asa/Yoru once she gets more feats. Or Black Widow or some shit.
Thanks, Bendis.
No problem citizen. Remember that I am ALWAYS coming!
Zuko
Neji or Hinata
Sanji
Damien Wayne
Hanzo, unironically. Might be her best fit thematically.
Why is she not just the MC? She's so much more interesting than Yuji.
Because she is a woman, JJK's author is from the same old school Kishimoto came from, they don't "Hate women" outright, but is painfully obvious they don't really care or think they are as interesting as male characters (Hell, Kishimoto said he would rather date Shikamaru than any of his female characters, and Gege dislikes drawing female characters)
Also everyone in JJK is more interesting than Yuji, even fricking Nobara
WWE2K24 leaked the power of thanos i mean Roman Reigns
Capeshit is dead.
Villain Descendingsword, the Opening Door, is a god slayer. When most of the humans died after Armageddon and the Gods turned their backs on them, Villain made it a point to hunt down these entities in Imprisoning Star Forest and non-exist them. His mind is incomprehensibly vast, allowing Villain to create numerous equations and algorithms with a variety of effects.
Durability
Simply resists subatomic wave function annihilation
Easily blocks a roundhouse kick with infinite energy behind it
Gets attacked with rain and tsunamis that floods 99.99 percent of the Omniverse, completely devastating that portion beyond regeneration
The rain alone can annihilate infinite Multiverses
Ignores an attack that completely burns his soul
Walks through an environment that’s Absolute Zero and Infinite Temperature at the same time
Resists anti-existence equations
Shrugs off an attack that disintegrates a level of infinity, which encompasses an "infinite amount of Hyperverses, an infinite amount of Megaverses, each composed of infinite Multiverses, each composed of infinite universes”
Villain then tanks infinity of those attacks simultaneously
Speed
Dodges an omnipresent lightning attack, meaning the lightning was infinitely everywhere at once
Nearly instantly reads through a book with infinite pages, and infinite paragraphs on those pages
Once went through a hotel with infinite rooms
Skills
Utilizes every martial art created up until the last century
Has complete control over his physical and mental functions
All known experience in fighting arts is instantly transported into his mind
Algorithms/Equations##
General
Can calculate infinite equations without even beginning to get fatigued
After thinking for a while, his brain becomes 18 times more powerful than all of the information in the endless existence
Disgusting bot. Get the frick outta here.
>Villain Descendingsword
I hope you made that name up because if not that’s embarrassing for whoever created this character. Imagine naming your OC “Hero Risingblade” or “Bad Guy Dropping Weapon”
https://suggsverse.fandom.com/wiki/Villain_Descendingsword
Do they show it? This is merely an interpretation.
>Easily blocks a roundhouse kick with infinite energy behind it
through an environment that’s Absolute Zero and Infinite Temperature at the same time
Lol classic Suggsverse
...Maybe it's a zone of completely potential energy? Where there's no atomic motion, but there's infinite potential for motion? Heat wouldn't transfer in such a system but would be "stored" in particles, though that's already odd because heat is atomic motion.
If it has potential energy then it’s not absolute zero you pseud
I'm trying to get it to make the most sense it possibly can.
That is still physically impossible
To have no motion and infinite motion at the same time.
a strong enough reality bender should be capable of that. i just don't know how you end up in that situation... besides of course lionel being a self indulgent power level obsessed nincompoop. and all the characters look like suburbanites cosplaying as hood rats too
It's still logically impossible like wishing to be the tallest person and the shortest at the same time.
Of course Suggsverse characters are like this on purpose.
As they have Tranceded normal logic instead uses Suggslogic https://suggsverse.fandom.com/wiki/Suggslogic
So they can do logically impossible shit like dividing by 0. Moving at infinite speed while being complete motionless. Etc
>character relies on moronation and anti-logic for power
kek
>anti-logic for power
This actually does sound like an super power that would be wanked to high heaven.
Isn’t that just reality warping.
RW is just bending physics.
so you're an expert. you have a phd in reality warping. you're a reality warper and only you can define it huh?
I feel like reality warping while bypassing physical impossible things. They still have to follow some basic logic.
You can't just create a square triangle that's also a ball.
Or surpass omnipotence.
Or Create a negative infinite amount clones that exist but also doesn't exist That can move everywhere instantaneously without moving. Like Suggsverse characters can.
if reality is literally, LITERALLY subjective to an entity who can freely subvert and completely change it, then "logic", especially our logic, goes out the window. you're unimaginative if you can't imagine practical contradictions
You saying all reality warpers should be able to be beyond omnipotent?
>beyond omnipotent
Nonsense term. Omnipotence is absolute, meaning that there's nothing "beyond" it.
With normal logic yes omnipotent is unsurpassable. Becaue it's literal definition. But Suggsverse characters can become beyond omnipotent with suggslogic. Kinda like how a square triangle ball contradicts the definition of a square triangle and ball.
Then that makes them frauds that don't get to omnipotence.
>With normal logic yes omnipotent is unsurpassable.
If it's not true logically then it's by definition false.
no. but they should be capable of at least a damn paradox. we can conceptualize paradoxes, it's not an olympic world record long jump in logic to say a liberally written reality warper could put paradoxes into practice. hell, it would be a creative application of reality warping. not sure about hot and cold at the same time though LOL. what would that even do to an organism?
>our logic
There is no such thing as "our logic".
There's logic (i.e. that which can be) and then there's illogic (i.e. word diarreah)
clearly a reality warper would have a logic different to our own... this might be the most boring, dull and hylic infested unimaginative general in the whole website
shut your goofy ass up Lionel
>clearly a reality warper would have a logic different to our own...
Again, there is no "our logic," there's logic and then there's the lack thereof.
>this might be the most boring, dull and hylic infested unimaginative general in the whole website
It has nothing to do with a lack of imagination. You simply don't understand what logic is.
Logic is a qualifier for existence, and it goes beyond any silly abstractions or veridical paradoxes.
nah, you just want to overcomplicate things. for what reason i dunno. seems... illogical
Depends on how high you go on the warp scale
Why would someone who can alter reality as they please new to adhere to logic in any way? If you can make two plus two equal fish by warping reality then you’ve already fricked with logic. Turning water into wine is fricking with logic, reversing gravity or even turning a man into a woman/vice versa is fricking with logic, because those are all things that are impossible logically. If you can warp reality you are already going against all forms of logic.
*need to
Can you even visually imagine what a square circle would look like? Can you imagine what someone who would be the tallest man in the world And also the shortest man at the same time would look like? Logically impossible things are usually so nonsensical. You can't even visually picture them little alone Create them even if you had the power of reality warping.
You didn’t even engage with my point lol.
>Reality warpers can frick with logic because that’s what their powers entail? Well can YOU do that big shot?? Didn’t think so
A reality warper is already going to have an imagination or sense of logical (or rather none at all) far beyond a normal human. Not only that, but doing something BEYOND human imagination is ALSO part of a reality warpers toolset, because they can freely meld the world around them as they please. Can YOU imagine how someone can get to 2 + 2 = Fish? Doesn’t matter because a reality warper could make it true regardless. Can YOU imagine how someone can be dead and alive, non existent and omnipresent, left and right, up and down, fake and real all at the same time? Doesn’t matter because a reality warper can make themself be that as they have the power to outright break what we see as logical.
>Can YOU imagine how someone can get to 2 + 2 = Fish? Doesn’t matter because a reality warper could make it true regardless.
What does 2 + 2 = Fish even mean? Does it even have any meaning? Or are you just trying to ascribe meaning to inherently meaningless nonsense?
but a reality warper SHOULD be able to do that
Do what? You haven't described what "2 + 2 = fish," represents.
You might as well say "a reality warper should be able to..." and then slam your fist on your keyboard, as so "....gbfv thjnmuyg hjnuymg hyjnumgt."
Words were developed to help us convey ideas. If you don't have an idea that you're trying to convey, then it's pointless to use words to describe it.
See, a reality warper would make "...gbfv thjnmuyg hjnuymg hyjnumgt" make logical sense. Not by changing the language, it would simply make sense. Simple as
>See, a reality warper would make "...gbfv thjnmuyg hjnuymg hyjnumgt"
>See, a reality warper would make "...gbfv thjnmuyg hjnuymg hyjnumgt" make logical sense. Not by changing the language, it would simply make sense. Simple as
What do you mean with "make [it] make logical sense" you keep using words, but you're not describing anything coherent. What are you referring it?
That it would make sense, dummy
Yes, he could do that
Being the shortest and tallest simultaneously contradicts the definition of those terms. The tallest person is the one with the greatest height, while the shortest person has the least height. These are mutually exclusive characteristics within any given context.
Even if there was literally no one else in the room but you, it still wouldn't make no fricking sense.
Even if you were riding on something what infinite speed and not moving. You are still technically moving which why a law of inertia will still affect you if this vehicle was suddenly stopped Because even though you are not moving you are in motion And technically moving.
You’re slowly starting to understand. You’re almost there. It doesn’t make sense at all does it? And yet a reality warper could make it real despite it being fully illogical. It’s almost like…their power BREAKS logic by default…
I have no idea why it’s so hard for them to understand lol. It’s literally just going against logic, but they’re trying to wank logic as if it’s some sort of unbreakable rule that no one can ever surpass, as if the concept of a human flying doesn’t already do that.
>You’re slowly starting to understand. You’re almost there. It doesn’t make sense at all does it? And yet a reality warper could make it real despite it being fully illogical. It’s almost like…their power BREAKS logic by default…
No. I understood that you were an idiot from the beginning.
You don't refer to anything. If something breaks logic then it simply means that it can't exist. If a reality warper could bring it into existence then it was logical all along.
Cold fire, hot ice, falling up, walking upside down, bro science... these things strike fear into a pseud's mind. Please understand
Reality warping doesn't come with mind fill with nonsense As part of its power set. Most people with reality warping abilities wouldn't be able to do things they cannot mental visualize.
Some reality warp are taking a math equation and turning it into a fish. While physically impossible isn't logically contradictory in any manner. And I can definitely mentally visualize that. Hell any matter manipulator can probably do that too.
But if Someone asking to be the tallest man in the world. While simultaneously being the shortest man in the world at the same time I can't. Someone asking for a stick that is infinite in length while also having the length less than 1 inch at the same time. I can't.
It makes perfect sense. You'd get measured and they'd say you're 9ft and 2ft tall. You understand what cold is and you understand what hot is... just make both true using reality warping powers. You just need the what not the how or why not.
>implying hisurfehiouw
...gbfv thjnmuyg hjnuymg hyjnumgt.
I asked if you could visualize what the tallest man who is also the shortest man in the world at the same time would look like?
I just told you. He'd look like both
And how would that looking like both look like ?
Your brain would receive sensory input that it's both. Whether you want to submit to that reality or not
I ask you to do it. You claim you can? How about a stick drawing?
You want me to warp reality to prove a point?
i'm asking you to just fricking draw it.
If you could mentally picture it then drawing it should be a cake walk, especially if you're just using stick figures.
I mean, it's way more convincing than giving me some stupid vague description with no details at all And expecting me to put it together.
You can do that yourself.
>>"Oh yeah, I can totally visualize it perfectly. I won't give you any details and you will have to draw it yourself."
Keke you're soo clever X'D
I told you what it would be like...
And that is........?
All you did was say "both" and refuse to elaborate or give any detail description
Almost like your full of shit.
I'm convinced you're being obtuse on purpose now
Okay and WHY would someone with the capability to alter reality in any way they wish have to adhere to NORMAL logic. You guys STILL haven’t answered that question and just keep going back to “but I can’t imagine that so it’s impossible!” as if someone with the ability to RW would have the same limitations.
>NOOOOO YOU CAN’T JUST IMPLY THAT BEING ABLE TO FRICK REALITY MEANS THAT YOU DON’T NEED TO LISTEN TO NORMAL LOGIC!!! LOGIC IS THE STRONGEST!!
Guess what nerdbro, if a reality warper makes something that doesn’t exist, exist, or makes something that’s illogical, logical, it’s not because it already existed or was already logical, it’s because they MADE it real with their power. We’re limited to our own scope and sense of logic, they aren’t.
>b-b-but uh humans don’t have our own sense of logic *SNORT* it’s the universes sense of logic that we follow!
Everyone has their own idea of what’s logical and what isn’t. Trying to say that we all follow the same sense of it is just silly.
Why would they not have normal logic?
Are you telling me that the moment you acquire reality warping? You would just become moronic?
>Guess what nerdbro, if a reality warper makes something that doesn’t exist, exist, or makes something that’s illogical, logical, it’s not because it already existed or was already logical, it’s because they MADE it real with their power. We’re limited to our own scope and sense of logic, they aren’t.
If something can be made real then it was always logical.
And again, there is no "our logic."
>Everyone has their own idea of what’s logical and what isn’t. Trying to say that we all follow the same sense of it is just silly.
Your idea of what logic isn't logic.
You speak on a subject you're ignorant on, and you've gotten lost in a maze of informalism.
picture a man running laps here. for all intents and purposes it makes no sense. but a reality warper would wiggle his magic little fingers and make it doable. in other words the man would run laps unimpeded by the fact it should make no sense do you understand now?????
That's an optical illusion.
anon it's a drawing. it doesn't have to be an optical illusion
It's an optical illusion. If you disagree with that then you're simply wrong.
Well I probably could visually imagine it if a reality warper made it
Basically. I think what I'm really saying is that Anti-Logic sounds like the kind of excuse/explanation of a reality warper's powers given by a series which thinks it's smarter than it really is.
suggs, scp, and homestuck always feel like "I will make them op bc I can"
yeah, that's why i think it ought to be a reality bender's doing. a reality bender could probably make it hot and cold at once but if the only purpose of doing it is to have the one guy no sell it that's hilarious
>It's still logically impossible like wishing to be the tallest person and the shortest at the same time.
that's false
logic is not the fundation of the universe. It is relative to the forces in there.
>Moving at infinite speed while being complete motionless
that's completely logical
speed increases your time making you more motionless
Time-Stop is all about increasing others' time. If you actually have no time (like light), you would be omnipresent
>It's still logically impossible like wishing to be the tallest person and the shortest at the same time.
that's false
is not the fundation of the universe. It is relative to the forces in there.
I love it how your response had literally fricking nothing to do with the post you're reply to. So can you visualize someone being the tallest man in the world while simultaneously being the shortest?
at infinite speed while being complete motionless
that's completely logical.
No isn't Please take your pseudo science and misunderstanding Of physics elsewhere
>So can you visualize someone being the tallest man in the world while simultaneously being the shortest?
Yes. Do you not understand relativity?
Then describe how that would look like Since you can visualize it so fricking well.
>visualize
you know relativity has to do with light just as much as visualization does.
it warps, anon.
There are many examples due to geometry and shit.
Here is one.
>Be you
>See small guy
>He is the smallest guy
>notice that the space He is makes no sense.
>His head is reaching the ceiling
>Notices that He wraps (down) the space around him
>the room is wrapped
>shoot at his head
>bullets hits his torso
>shoot at his feet
>bullets hits his torso
Bonues points:
>another guy enters the room
>Ask him about the guy that reaches the ceiling
>guy claims weird guy does not reach the ceiling, is small and the room wraps (up) making him taller
>other guys enter
>now there are two camps
>but none can agree how much tall or small he is
That was near nonsensical babble you worth at best Sounds, it's like he's just warping The space and perception around him as opposed to truly being the tallest and the smallest simultaneously.
I'm convinced you're being obtuse on purpose now.
>he's just warping The space
ok, genius.
vizualize how tall or small things are without space.
I like you to taste your own medicine so go on
That My point. Bwong the tallest and is shortest at the same time is logically impossible and you can't properly visualize it.
Imagine a stick that is infinitely long but also less than an inch long at the same time. You can't.
>It's still logically impossible like wishing to be the tallest person and the shortest at the same time.
I'm the shortest and tallest person in the room.
>Moving at infinite speed while being complete motionless. Etc
I stand motionless in a ship that moves infinitely fast.
>Lets jump his ass
Blackbeard would try that shit just to see what would happen
>rain and tsunamis that floods 99.99 percent of the Omniverse
So basically what you're saying is that he's weaker than Roman Reigns
they need to find a contender and counterpart on Roman's level YESTERDAY. I'm sick of Coconut soap operas
>On his level
A contradiction in itself, because only god himself is on the Tribal Chief's level
got you covered bro
Why do powerscalers love this word salad so much?
deadass. feels the exact same when the goons on reddit argue abt multiversal scaling like high complex vs outer vs hyper. nobody cares, they're all made up terms anyway that aren't even consistent half the time
Suggsverse was written by a powerscaler and it really shows.
In my OC even silverfish are Ultra-Suggsversal
it's been a meme for years and years. it's a bit like looking at an anomalously large turd. you don't LIKE it but you can't look away
Go away Suggs, you will never win a vs argument, especially not with your self-insert OC's.
narutin
People who read capekino comics are geniuses.
>Lying
Sad!
Muzan sisters...what ever can we do against Sukuna's supreme martial solution?
Ya ever been torn with an Omnilander match where you can’t decide if you want your hated characters humiliated or not worthy of being in Death Battle at all? That’s me and TMNT vs RWBY, I wanna see Donatello flex on every weapon with his staff
>reality-warper-san your powers aren't scientifically accurate. did you get your subjective reality powers peer reviewed?
>have 2 of something
>add another 2
>result is fish of thing
There it's settled
Numbers aren't contingent objects.
Maybe to you
>Maybe to you
And to anyone with an IQ over 80.
>That it would make sense, dummy
What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about meaning, not whether or not it makes sense. There was no meaning behind the string of symbols. Just as there's no meaning behind your string of words. Your sentence purports meaning, but it does not carry it.
You can't even understand what "makes sense" means LOL
>he can't perceive the numbers
Who wins?
Leon S Kennedy (Resident Evil) vs Sebastian Castellanos (The Evil Within)
Same result as Joel vs Leon
>nu Leon
Yawn.
Leon. Especially if the original based one is used.
My favorite character is beyond all dimensionality and beyond all platonic concepts.
>Finally get through the World of Light in Smash Bros Ultimate
>Check vsbw for Galeem and Dharkon
>>>>>>>>>>>>Can fight the fighters amplified by Spirits of Palkia and Arceus, the former of whom controls all of space and the latter of whom appeared from nothing and created the world and sky).
>Arceus Spirit is a 4* neutral primary spirit, with 10030 power, three slots, and no special effect
>LoZ NES Link is a 4* neutral primary spirit, with 10459 power, three slots, and boosts sword damage
hmm yes universe ~ universe+ attack potency LoZ link
don't the Smash profiles on the site only use information from the trophies or something?
SSBU doesn't even have trophies, and spirits themselves lack descriptions - seems dishonest composite game mechanics and flavour between entries.
I mean if you want to take the Palutena's Guidances as canon then the previous games are canon too
>implying ALL reality warpers are omniscient
most cannot make things they do not about, they gotta visualize their target
Exactly. Most reality warpers can't create things. They can't visualize or imagine so saying their transcend logic it's just being moronic
This thread is full of people who can't rotate an apple inside their heads
Uhm…why would an apple be inside of my head? That’s illogical…logicbro btw.
That would be a kinda funny idea for a character. Someone who theoretically has reality warping powers but can't use them because they can't visualize anything
That's literally a bleach character. Motherfricker killed himself with his own rw power Because he could not imagine himself being stronger than kenpachi zaraki
Gremmy's fight is interestin in this regard
He could have insta-kill Base Kenpachi but that guy autism convinced the kid to battle so Gremmy just started throwing shit at him
He did imagine Kenpachi's powers (therefore He doesn't need full knowledge) but those powers were too much for his iwn powers.
Later Kenpachi is shown unable to withstand his own powers (Bankai)
i don't know how they get through life being so rigid and boring
I am going to start shitposting now.
t. bejita
but i did have breakfast yesterday?????????????????????????
>AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE MY IMAGINATION DOESN’T WORK!!!! SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN IT FOR ME!!!
Do logicsissies really?
Johan Liebert could easily kill Scion from Worm despite their power disparity. If jack slash could convince scion into omniciding earth, Johan could easily talk Scion the continental destroyer into killing himself.
>vs battle is putting Jesus in the highest tier
who the frick could beat a composite Jesus?
That's incredibly disrespectful to people who believe in the religion to use him for battleboarding.
It's the same with Hinduism and Buddhism too. They talk about religion like it's the Suggsverse
well they also use Buddhism for Sun Wukong's profile and that guy is also getting upgraded to the Jesus tier
>That's incredibly disrespectful to people who believe in the religion
if they feel disrespected, remember the old sayin:
and the christian cries out in pain as he strikes you
Do they have Muhammad? That could unironically start a war.
He was just a guy
Not to a bunch of very angry and somehow very armed bunch of hut dwellers.
Calc the mountain feat and compare it to Moses parting the Red Sea. I want to see Mohammad vs Moses.
I believe this is due to the change to the tiering system. https://vsbattles.com/threads/tiering-system-revisions-tier-0.163767/
Looking at this and the previous thread it seems like it's
>dumb unga mathematical dimension stuff now only peaks at high 1-b, so spamming cardinals won't get you higher
>to get to 1-a you have to have actual meta-fictional stuff, like actually being transcendant above reality and viewing it as not real, not just generic bugs buny stuff
>to be tier 0 you have to be a monad, and if there are any contradictions you instantly get booted out of the tier
Not perfect but it seems better to me at least
>dumb unga mathematical dimension stuff now only peaks at high 1-b, so spamming cardinals won't get you higher
makes sense
there are characters that trascend it so they wouldn't give a frick about cardinality in the first place
Metafictional stuff doesn't scale anywhere. Deadpool, Gwenpool, and She Hulk view their stories as mere fiction and they're still just street tier.
I can't fathom how they take this technobabble crap so seriously, is it just to gatekeep and wank their favored works?
Yes
CSAP's tiering still mogs to death
Can't beat the Logos.
Azathoth
Jesus cures his narcolepsy and mental moronation and make Azathoth his disciple.
If you can cure mental moronation then he pretty much solos all battleboads and death battle.
abrahamic faiths are barely multiversal.
It took catholic scientists for it to be integrated while hindus already have it
>hylic
I was refering to Advaita Vedanta, you idiot.
>DURR THE COLLECTIVE SOUL OF MANKIND TRANSCENDS
Tikkun Olam, goy.
Jesus before he slaps Buddha's shit:
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/47601134-9e14-4e55-8e2f-f567d7240ba7
>>DURR THE COLLECTIVE SOUL OF MANKIND TRANSCENDS
Yep
This guy is moronic
wait until you realize this was the world religion (the fricking aztecs knew it as Teotl.)
You keep worshipping Sumerian Traditions
I can't believe Jesus can solo SCP
Jesus vs SCP 3812 is now a legit fight, hot damn
>who the frick could beat a composite Jesus?
We
Context: Among religious schools, Jesus falls in the religion where God and the Self are different (creation is not the creator).
So any religion that has that "Creation and Creator are the same" scales higher
>DURRR HURRRR BEING HYLIC MEANS STRONGER
Dumb hylic.
Mmmm if you believe in the Trinity the Father is not the Son but they're both considered God. If you don't believe in the Trinity then Jesus of Nazareth still accomplished miracles thanks to God's power. Not that I'm in the business of powerscaling religion
>they're both considered God
point is that we are a self too but we are not God.
Christianity has this stuff about nature of God and human nature to explain this trinity.
but falls apart if you start searching the possibility of a monad that makes the natures
In English, Doc
sorry.
what do you need in english? the monad?
I need you to prove you could pass a TOEFL exam
>TOEFL
sorry, I don't speak ebonics. try using english instead
It means Tacos, Obleas and Enchiladas in Florida
Why did they list the "gender" as that? Lmao
It should just be "referred to as the Lord" plain and simple!!!
Lord is not a gender
It's descriptive enough, don't you think?
>Jobbed to a pointy stick
KWABsus
that's not funny
>elected to """"""lose"""""" to a stick his true self placed there
BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!
>h-he was holding back...
Yes, he was.
Anime lied to you, the longinus stabbing Jesus was just them confirming he was already dead, literally akin to poking a corpse with a stick. Eva and Symphogear hyping the lance as a god killer are working through a language barrier.
Isn't he complete bullshit in Fate and JJBA?
Goku is above Tier 0 confirmed
Jesus is God
God is outerversal
God can beat Goku
Therefore, Jesus can beat Goku
This priest has no faith
Can Buddhabois turn water into wine?
No?
I rest my case.
That begs the question, could he make a wine that is 777% alcohol?
Jesus was beaten by a Roman guy with a whip.
Jesus is God. Jesus was beaten by a Roman with a whip. God is weaker than a normal Human.
DID SOMEBODY SAY GOD?
>Vince is 2 wins 0 losses over God
Suggshit can kiss my ass this is too hilarious
>Vince stopped being black
Damn. He no sold God's powers
he is eternally black
>Mormonism peaks at planetary to large planetary
>even Scientology despite having no God is higher
Do not covet thy neighbor's wife.
....unless she's really hot.
Screw unto under before they screweth unto you
Mcmahonism is the freedom of expression
AMEN ANON AMEN
He didn't beat God in kayfabe, he was mocking Shawn Michaels for being a born against Christian
Vince challenged god due to shawns faith in work of the lord, which is why the chair caught on fire when he attempted to split Shawn's skull open
Even in Kayfabe it was a work. What Vince did was based but what you're doing is distasteful. Stick to Roman lil faithless bro
May mcmahonsim guide your lost soul to the light
I do love me some Vince. The last, and greatest carny in the biz.
>You and D-Lo are gonna put on those fricking turbans, I don't care about desecration".
Last great american businessman
Vince? Jobs to Sponsors.
>UFC? You work for me now buddy
Speedy loves the taste of Nikocado's chocolate tart.
At this point, Speedy deserves death by Ass Void.
Gif related is Speedy getting sucked in.
Thanks, Doc
Any good opponents for Highlander?
Eric Draven AKA the Crow
The Crow is for Darkman.
>Tusk
Idk much about him. Maybe?
>Raiden
No.
>Samurai Jack
No.
Does he do anything impressive in the sequels and TV show?
>>Tusk
>Idk much about him. Maybe?
In 2013 reboot, Tusk is an immortal swordsman.
>No.
Aw come on. Even though I specified the movie version?
Jack
>No.
Understandable, that one was more of a halfhearted answer.
Not really, apart from the immortality The Aliens aspect and a few other nonsense their actual strength stay relatively the same.
I don't think his name is really Highlander. But since you asked:
>Tusk (Killer Instinct)
>Raiden (MK movie)
>Samurai Jack
Highlander really isn't all that impressive. They only have immortality when not cut across the neck and don't even reach room level.
Why so many trips here
cooz You require certain mental illness to be a regular here
Superman beats Infinite Tsukoyomi because 'A Perfect World Doesn't Need a Superman'
Superman beats Infinite Tsukoyomi because Superman does not have Chakra Roots for Genjutsu to affect.
What if Madara just makes a world without one?
Madara values Might Makes Right vs Superman's Might Serves Right. He can not fathom the idea of a world without some super powered being controlling the masses, because that's everything he was doing, being a God to control the masses as he saw fit.
Why are these threads still up if generals with no new episodes are supposed to be canned after 2 weeks?
These are datamining honeypots to groom new school shooters
>Why are these threads still up
Because I said so and Jannies obey me
However Mods scale higher than me
Doc I've seen you rip mods in half while suppressing your Kundalini output
My HERO!
For a second I thought the bullets were actually tearing through the cape and was about to question what kind of bullets they were before realizing they're just impact lines
Next Halloween matchup, hopefully.
Lame and gay.
>Springtrap
Can he survive The Ass Void?
Gokusisters..... .. . . . . Can we survived the Springlock bean
>Can we survived
Who could beat him?
>Civil right blast
Jobs to MIK JR
>Oh no, not the world's most beautiful leg! Please don't trample me ha ha...
The Eternal Hun reveals himself.
the prostitute of babylon is a lot more menacing than frieza
How strong are Super Sentai/Power Rangers? I've always considered them all basically Captain Americas.
Some of them can get pretty nutty in terms of scaling even without their robots.
Cap is NOT beating any Battleizer Red except MAYBE Andros.
I think you misread the post.
Anon said he puts them at Cap level, I in my own way am saying he is not.
Anyone remember the meltdown the tripgay had that ultimately ruined the thread?
Which trip gay?
Have you ever watched Six Million Dollar Man? If so, how powerful is Steve Austin?
I only saw a handful of episodes when it was on Sci-Fi. I remember him being able to catch up to cars by running and I think he dodged bullets.
https://bionic.fandom.com/wiki/Steve_Austin
Could Steve Austin from SMDM fight Ichirō Inuyashiki?
Probably not
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LopiBats. The deranged Batgay. Someone posted a picture of Batman jobbing to Wonder Woman and he lost his shit. The rest of thread was filled with spam and killed all discussion.
that sure was tragic, luckily I, the real stabipol, am a sane, kind individual!
LopiBats hates Batman, wtf are you on about
I guess you wasn’t there when his meltdown happened.
>how powerful is Steve Austin?
Abrahamic tier due to being the only man vince ever feared
So, is the new Percy Jackson show any good? Cinemaphile is a den of unironic pedophiles, so I'd rather not go there.
Is the blackwashed series of a beloved YA novel series good? No. No. And no.
Yeah he's asking how strong are they and he just assumed them to always be baseline Cap level is what I took from their post.
It’s really good, the only people who don’t like it are culture war morons crying about Annabeth
Which one is telling the truth?
Which do you think
Its really bad, the only ones who pretend to like it are lefty culture warriors who want own the righties and fans of the series who point out Rick cried over the movies for being unlike the books..and then doing a 180 immediately with the show.
Wow my comment really got you assblasted didn’t it?
Giorno is the one character who actually deserves to get fraudchecked (and I mean debunked as some omnipotent being, not simply losing) because he's fricking boring and GER is the Alien X of anime.
no, ger is the Batman of anime
No, GER is the Superman of white people.
Who's going to step up to fraudcheck him?
Joker.
congrats
you found the single actual fraud present in these threads
>Getting a fraud to fraudcheck another fraud
No.
hahahahaha
Either Joker or Kumagawa
>joker
>Joker would clobber base Giorno
>most people probably would
>GER gives Giorno the last second win
Part 5 was a mistake.
You mean joker right? He's the most wanked character in Vidya/anime.
ENTER...
HEROsh…
so what you're saying is that GER is the true omnipotent character of anime?
Is he the biggest fraud in Marvel?
>Referred to as the strongest fighter in the entire universe
>Refuses to fight Thor because he used his hammer
>Refuses to even let Hulk hit him once
>Jobbed to She-Hulk
Probably the Hulkbuster. But you also didn't mention that Ben Grimm broke Tryco's ribs. One of the most mishandled Marvel cosmics IMO. At least others have gotten time to shine to balance out the jobbing
>Probably the Hulkbuster.
If you extend it to any -buster Tony made, it looks even worse.
Hulksisters….
>
Opponent?
its so weird that Joker wins this no matter what people say
Persona? Outerversal.
Composite JJBA? Town-tier.
......"this" being the laundry folding contest.
What is the strongest character Johan Liebert could kill with words
(You)
Mr mxy
Decided to give profiles for enemies from fnaf YouTube series
Who has the hottest fire ability in fiction?
>jokercuck made another post to cry after getting BTFO
lmao
is there anywhere else on this site to power scale besides this thread
Random powerscaling threads that pop up on Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile at times.
>seimultaneously
>he unironically thinks Jesus lost
KWAB!
Giorno? One-shots JOKEr and the rest of the Phantom KEKS.
I mean yeah it's bullet level vs brick wall level and bullets can't destroy a brick wall while Golden Experience can I think and Joker died to a bullet meaning he's weaker
Everyone can one-shot Joker moron, he's a street-level powerless human.
GODfred i kneel...
So if Alfred beats Superman does that mean he scales past Goku?
Easily. Alfred is one of the most powerful beings in the DC universe.
Gojo
Was Popeye Saitama's best MU? They have decent connections and the result is fairly interesting without feeling like a spite match for Saitama.
What other opponents could Saitama fight that makes an interesting battle?
It was bad because it was invalidated by new OPM lore.
how so?
Nta but I believe he's referring to Saiatama and Garou wiping out a whole section of space while Popeye was put around star level ap wise (wouldn't have helped Saitama since he can't really destroy Pops but whatevs). He also can manipulate hyperdimensional gates and apparently has infinite growth potential the longer a fight lasts where his next punch will nearly kill the previous one (based on what Garou was saying with his adaptation ability)
So the new battle doesn’t change the outcome of Popeye vs Saitama.
It does see
Popeye can't blitz because he needs to eat spinach first, so he loses.
>Popeye leaves the animation and rips Saitama's animation cell apart, throwing him into the garbage
What then, anon
Saitama no-sells it with time travel.
so he just gets random bullshit that lets him win? gay
The point is that Saitama's growth would give him some power capable of beating Popeye.
We now know for a fact that if you give him a chance to grow, he'll get previously unheard-of powers and win even if that win should be impossible.
Feats don't matter for him, he had no time travel feats before he needed one to beat Garou.
This just means the fan-theory that Saitama gets whatever power he needs to win is canon.
I would argue that there's definitely Super characters who could/would kill Saitama before he has a chance to experience any growth, but anyone who gives him a chance to grow would lose.
Saitama would job to Vegeta (who'd just immediately blitz him) but beat Goku (who'd give him a chance to get stronger then lose)
>Anon completely misunderstands what Saitama is about and what his "powers" are
>had to be taught how to time travel
>immediately forgets how to do so afterwards
Lol
Anon, Popeye didn't even need spinach to resist complete reality erasure. How is Saitama gonna kill a guy that can't even be erased?
Stop kidding yourself. Time Travel would mean nothing. Saitama simply cannot kill Popeye and Popeye can just leave the cartoon. Saitama cannot even turn back time if he is dead or the cartoon has stopped.
Popeye can also still kill Saiatam in one punch. Saitama cannot bring himself back to life like Popeye can.
Do not insist on dying on that hill Anon.
Saitama's growth gives him the powers he needs to win so he simply would win.
>dies
>can't 'grow'
Oh no
Like I said already, by the nature of Popeye's toon-force powers Popeye can't blitz.
He needs to fight his opponents without spinach at first and then when he's losing he eats his spinach and wins.
Except that Saitama would have grown so much by the time Popeye eats the spinach that Saitama would win anyway.
Specific feats don't matter with a power like Saitama's, he'd just get whatever he needs to win through his growth. He had zero time travel feats before the Garou fight but that's what he needed so that's what he got.
The nature of Popeye's toonforce powers means he instantly blitzes. He doesn't need spinach to turn Saitama into a stack of muscle bro mangas, and Saitama has no defense against such an attack. Popeye's simply on an unattainable level. Saitama gets one-punched and gagged on. Cope.
>He doesn't need spinach to turn Saitama into a stack of muscle bro mangas
He absolutely does and that's why he loses.
If he could blitz I would concede but he can't.
>h-h-h-HE DOES BECAUSE I-I-I s-SAY SO!
lol
lmao
Prove otherwise
so? Popeye can defeat seventh-dimensional monsters
Hence why I've been saying he can't beat Popeye
Reverse causality punch or some other nonsense ability he gets during the infinite growth period fighting Popeye before Popeye eats his spinach ends the fight before it begins.
pretty sure Saitama forgot how to do that after time travelling
doesn't this mean he beats all sayans? he just goes back in time and punches sayan babies
why do power-scalers believe that higher dimensional means shit? we see 5th dimensional beings getting killed by falling space ships all the time in Rick and Morty?
Blame Death Battle for wanking it
>we see 5th dimensional beings getting killed by falling space ships all the time in Rick and Morty
Name one
Rick and Morty season 6 episode 1. The pair of Beths argue over this while raiding the Citadel and fighting off five-dimensional monsters that came from the wormhole. these monster dies from Rick's ship and all space debris. Summer was able slice and dice most of them thanks to claws rick gave her,
After his fight with God Awakened Garou we know Saitama gets exponentially stronger whenever he fights anyone even close to his strength, which means you need to be both much stronger than him AND able to instantly blitz him to win.
Popeye by the nature of his toon-force can't blitz anyone, he needs to start losing and eat his spinach before he toon-force wins. In the time it would take Popeye to eat his spinach, Saitama would become stronger than Popeye's toon-force.
And yes, the whole hyperdimension thing no-sells Popeye simply erasing Saitama or whatever and means Popeye would have to actually beat Saitama in a fight. But as I said, that would take too long and Saitama's infinite growth would carry hi to a win.
Popeye can still walk out of the animation and erase Saitama from it.
>Infinite growth
Should get this guy to fight Broly.
Saitama’s gonna need way better feats than what he’s currently got to stand a chance against anyone from Super.
I'd say Saitama wins via time travel but I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball time Travel doesn't work like One Punch Man. He'd go back and hit base Broly while his guard is down and kill him. This would create a new timeline and the original Broly, Saitama ran from would still exist. So it's probably a tie or a win for Saitama if you consider him killing an alternate timeline version of Broly a won.
Saitama fans would NOT be happy if the only way their guy can beat a Super character is by resorting to time travel.
It's not even a real win because the character Saitama was fighting would still exist. Saitama would just kill an alternate-timeline version of them and leave thinking he'd won. That's why I think it's just a tie. It would be a different story if it was Zamasu or Black, Saitama was fighting. They could actually chance him to the new timeline.
as far I know. the popeye universe doesn't follow DBZ time travels rule. they seem the follow the back to the future/ DC / ben 10 time travel rules.
I was just talking about Dragon Ball time travel. You can't just go back in time and kill a character from Dragon Ball. It just creates a new Timeline and doesn't erase the actual character Saitama was fighting. Would be interesting if Saitama fought Goku Black or Zamasu. They could actually chance him, so the fight doesn't just end in a tie.
back to the future is the only separate one here
Not really? Popeye's corpse (or even his nothingness) can eat his spinach (spinach he can summon from nowhere) even in the actual episode they admitted that pure strength and speed wouldn't help Saitama even if he had the advantage.
Popeye can also time travel
Yeah this. Saitama had no way to fully put Popeye down while Popeye could just punch him into funny objects.
Otto you missed out on the full copium that saitama anon was on
You would think there would be more capeshit matchups for OPM considering its setting
Time travel wins are for cowards
Halbros…
Why are pretty much all the KLK matchups so shit?
>inb4 'it's a shit show'
I get it's not a very high verse in terms of powerscaling, but virtually every single proposed fight I've seen for it is just a stomp one way or another with zero close matches at all.
Pic Related is... decent I suppose. But I'm sure people have loads better matchups for Doffy.
>KLK's debut on DB was a Meme-Tier Matchup made solely to give Shadowgays a pity W.
Woke up this morning to find my video dislike bombed. Speedophile is not sending his best. Dislikes are counted for engagement on youtube, not against.
>NO NO HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT OTHER REASON PEOPLE SAY KENSHIN SHOULDN'T BE IN DEATH BATTLE. THE OTHER REASON THAT'S UH...UH...
Speedy and his minions are pathetic.
Speedy’s a fricking moron.