It happens fairly often in the downtime between seasons. This one will probably get deleted too because it's too much like a general
For whoever is the next OP at least give us something to work with
I made one asking General Vs debate stuff and trying to start a conversation (the only DB thing the thread had was the thumbnail) and it still got deleted
So does Baby (assuming he is in his Baby Vegeta state) have any good match ups? I feel like most them run into issues with being able to purge Baby from Vegeta's body. Or more pressingly, his whole shtick is all about possessing and controlling even though he by himself is very strong. His ace in the hole technique is an evil Spirit Bomb as well. So yeah, what could you feasibly give him?
JOBcords arguments were reliant on people unironically taking his card game statements at face value. Even without moronic leddit interviews Bill could still easily trick SHARTcord into accepting a contract by hanging the horses over his head. Also, horsegays deserve nothing but losses for being so mentally ill. Say what you will about Ggays, at least they haven’t shot anyone.
>Bill is heavily reliant on the research staff's tunnel vision head canon because he shits himself without it >Ggays aren't mentally ill
Have you forgotten Dipper at Taco Bell?
1. Didn’t say that.
2. Didn’t say that either.
Making a weird as shit fanfic story =/= opening fire on a UPS worker because Orange Horse told you to do so. It says a lot about YOU that these two events are somehow comparable in your mind, really backs up my belief about Horsegays being fricking crazy. Also >headcanon
I’m pretty sure that SHARTcord has done more for less when it came to pink horse. Unless you’re implying he wouldn’t take a deal that robs him of his power if it meant she didn’t get her fricking brains blown out.
I said it because they use it just to say none of Bill's mistakes in the finale count so his "kaleidoscope future vision" isn't negged by his own personality and short temper. >"Why didn't Wolverine just kidnap Raiden's son and force Raiden to let Wolverine kill him? What is he stupid?"
3 months ago
Anonymous
What the frick are you even talking about. I’m using my own arguments, why are you referring to the video? And part of Bill’s personality is using emotional manipulation, hostages, and bonds to his advantage via mentally fricking with someone so that they give him what he wants. It is fully in character for him to point a finger gun and Pink Horses’ head and say “make a deal with me that you’ll have a nice day forever or else I’m going to splatter this moronic b***hes brain across the empty cosmos”. >UHHH BUT HE JOBS!!!
Ok. Do you want me to bring up TARDcords jobbing moments too? You want me to bring up how it’s equally in character for him to give shit up, especially his own life, for pink horse?
3 months ago
Anonymous
*at
Not and.
3 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but Billcord was pretty stupid even based on what they were using.
>Muh vision
Pretty irrelevant since he demonstrates its shit or nonexistant by losing to two children and a con artist.
>But he said so via an AMA larp
In said larp he also says he is a perpetual liar so anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt at minimum
>Soul manipulation!
Bill never displayed this. Dream shenanigans is not soul manipulation.
On chaos horse's side, he ironically had more grounds for soul manipulation shit based on what they said. They gave him the RPG which explicitly states he knows ALL spells even from other media (including D&D) but conveniently ignored that. They also say he'd eventually come back no matter what but ignore how he can time travel so in practice even if Bill did beat him, he'd just reappear a second later and laugh at him while Bill was trapped.
Speedy was pretty autistic about that episode and I think they just gave the triangle the win to shut him up and to finally be done with pony shit
3 months ago
Anonymous
My friend, I immediately disavowed the AMA shit in my very first post. I didn’t even mention anything regarding “soul manipulation” because while he DOES have it (he tore Dipper’s out of his body after he accepted a contract) I don’t think it’s even relevant to his wincons aside from the fact that he can survive without one to an extent (he was still alive in the DVD set but that was due to the wish he made to the Axolotl). Again, I’m not even arguing about the shit they used in the episode itself, I’m giving my own opinions and arguments as to how Bill still wins. It’s funny that you mentioned the RPG shit though, because I ALSO mentioned that in my first post because I think unironically pointing to it is just as moronic as taking Bills reddit shit at face value. >Dicksword knows EVERY spell bro!!! Just look at this one singular line from a card game!!
Let’s assume that this is fully literal and you’re totally meant to take it seriously and not as a joke. Let’s assume that he does know every single spell in the history of fiction and can use fricking Zettaflare or Babidi’s Mind Control. How does that help him if Bill threatens to kick Pink Horse into the sun. How does that help him if Bill decides to hide away in a different dimension, or swipe that magic absorbing bell. Beyond that though, it has the same level of validity as Bill’s AMA due to how fricking vague it is, and I’m not even sure if it’s just referring to the spells in Horse World or in fiction in general. But disregarding that, even if Dill Swash (I’m running out of alternatives) comes back 0.000000000000001 seconds after getting killed by Bill, he still got killed by Bill. He lost at that point.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>threatens to kick pink horse into the sun.
This is operating on no outside influence is it not and even then there are plenty of workarounds with that. You underestimate the levels of bullshit D&D spells are packing.
>lol I'll just kick your friend into the su- >I cast Wish/Imprisonment/Plane Shift/etc lol >Frick
>He still got killed by Bill
Revive/return stuff have been involved in past matches (see Chosen Undead and Hulk). It only matters if it takes too long for them to get back into the fight for it to count as an L which would be a problem for chaos horse in this scenario
Bill didnt take Dipper's soul out. It was related to the mindscape which is not souls
And again what you deem stupid for them to have is unrelated to what I am talking about as I also think some shit they both got were dumb. Going by what they both were given in the ep, chaos horse should have won. That RPG thing alone is too busted combined with his multiple means of time travel
3 months ago
Anonymous
wouldnt be a problem*
3 months ago
Anonymous
I didn’t say that it was stupid for them to have. I said it was stupid AND utterly baseless since one relies on a single line and quite literally your own goddamn imagination, and the other relies on taking a known liar at face value. The spell thing is just more idiotic in my eyes because it’s literally just a crutch that forces the debate into the direction of pulling up Wikipedia and searching for random spells, despite the fact that Discord hasn’t shown the capability of being able to use spells from other verses in scenarios where it would greatly benefit him to do so. Even now your argument revolves around him pulling a spell out of his ass that’ll save him instead of his actual abilities save for time travel. >Bill didnt take Dipper's soul out. It was related to the mindscape which is not souls
You’re forgetting later on where Bill explicitly states that Dipper was effectively a ghost due to not having a vessel. If that’s not spiritual in nature then I don’t know what is. Regardless of that though, I already said that I don’t think soul shenanigans has anything to do with his wincons because it doesn’t. His manipulation and wits are what give him the win more times than not. Time travel? Bill is still holding the horses hostage and can very easily merk them if his opponent gets too haughty. Pulling spells out of his ass? Jumping in and out of different dimensions to avoid them is fully valid. Revival? Bill can and will force him into a contract if he feels as though the fight is getting too long. Regardless of if he has prior knowledge on the horses or not (in this scenario he would since his usual tactic revolves around spying on a world before going in to Weird it Up, so he’d realistically see whatever relationship PH and DC have), threatening ALL of the horses and making Disc give up his life permanently for them is very much in character.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why does Bill get to hold a bunch of people who aren't involved in the fight hostage?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>His manipulation and wits >Gets outwitted by two pre teens and a con artist on more than one occasion
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well I didn’t say that he wasn’t an idiot. But you would be lying if you said that tricking his opponents isn’t part of his entire schtick.
Why does Bill get to hold a bunch of people who aren't involved in the fight hostage?
>Bill is still holding the horses hostage
So he gets an advantage from the start for some reason? Not like it matters much when he can just finger snap em away
>He will just force a contract!
Now you are just going full headcanon. Your entire argument hinges on a non neutral scenario that Discord can easily circumvent anyway with just his standard abilities.
1. Weirdmageddon would already lay the groundwork for Bill to have the horse verse, Pink one included, at his mercy. The hostage situation thing is just me working off of the animation, but even ignoring that it would be normal for him to have them in a state of danger at that point.
2. Headcanon? Bill’s never used a disadvantageous situation to force someone to take a contract? Bill has never used hostages to make people bend to his will? Bill has never manipulated someone into giving something up in a moment of weakness? Answer wisely. The only thing that I won’t argue against is Weirdmageddon being a non-neutral state in nature, but at the same time it’s basically part of Bill’s “full power” in a sense so you can’t exactly ignore it because you don’t like it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
but that's like making a fight that's "Ben ten's grandpa vs Superman" and then saying "Ben's grandpa wins because Superman refuses to fight back since Ben is using Alien X to hold the justice league hostage"
They aren't part of the fight, let alone a preestablished advantage
3 months ago
Anonymous
No, that’s like making the fight “Batman Vs Homelander” and then saying that Homelander wins because he’d force Batman into a disadvantageous situation by targeting civilians, making him frick by trying to save them. You don’t seem to understand that by threatening the horse verse at ALL, Bill is indirectly threatening pink horse, and in doing so he’s actively putting his opponent in a situation where he can directly benefit from their mind wavering. That’s what I’m getting at.
What "moment of weakness" is there going to be in the middle of a fight?
Bill can freely create a moment of weakness via emotionally and mentally fricking with DC. Again, that is fully in character and it’s how he gets most of his shit done in the first place.
Anon you are ignoring the defined rules for the fights they use. There wouldnt be any hostage situation shit
See the first and second replies.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, you do know the animation is just flavor for fun right? Your headcanon manipulation thing isnt how they go with it and is a non factor by their rules. Even then, Bill's level of manipulation sucks. It took him millennia just to jump ONE dimension and he was bamboozled multiple times along the way by literal children
3 months ago
Anonymous
I’m not basing my argument on the animation, I’m basing it on how Weirdmageddon normally works. That’s where majority of my argument is coming from. When WMD opens up, it gives Bill the leeway to threaten the world’s inhabitants via chaos and the likes, and that in turn allows for him to push his opponent into a corner and manipulate them by threatening whoever’s present. If he didn’t have that boost at ALL I wouldn’t even be taking this stance. >Bill’s level of manipulation sucks
A gun to the heads of millions works wonders when it comes to manipulation, especially if one of those heads is someone the person you’re threatening is fond of. To reiterate, so that my point is as clear as possible, by opening up Weirdmageddon, Bill can and will use the lives of the inhabitants, which will 100% include pink horse (even in a “neutral” ground the fight taking place in or eventually leading to horse land makes sense because of Bill being a conqueror and knowing how to get to other worlds) to make his opponent bend the knee.
and you would have a point in a normal fight, yes
but death battle says fights take place in a neutral space with no other people
and without hostages i don't see how bill could ever manipulate discord into a contract
what contract would it even be?
The contract could easily be something along the lines of “give me all your power” or “stay in this impassible hole forever”. It doesn’t need to be elaborate.
>The fight now takes place in gravity falls and Weirdmageddon is passively beefing Discord by its nature >Bill cant access the horses now since he is a dimension cuck who needs to jump through a thousand hoops just to get to another nearby dimension
You forget that the Nightmare Realm and dimensional rifts solve this issue entirely since he can travel between dimensions with that. He stopped being stuck in the dimensional cuck chair (sort of) once he managed to fully enter GF and become 3D.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why would discord sign that
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Discord just goes back in time and stops the deal that makes the rift happen in the first place >Discord takes the fight somewhere else that isn't affected by by WMD and cuts off Bill from his power gain
Bill's level of manipulation is basic as hell, he's just a glorified salesman, lying to a person when they're at their weakest. Discord actually delves into a person weakness and flaws. He's also know for setting stuff up and using misdirection. They're method of tricking people aren't even close and Discord's ways are a perfect counter towards someone like Bill.
Again dude, you seem to be keen on giving Bill this unnecessary advantage. Unlike Discord, Bill knows nothing about his opponent so there's no realistic way for him to know about holding someone hostage. Plus there's other ways to turn the whole contract around, like making the deal to allow Bill inside Discord's head which would take the fight to a mental landscape. Then Discord would just kill Bill like he did in the show.
>Discord just shoves Bill into a portal into the frick off dimension and leaves gim there
3 months ago
Anonymous
and you would have a point in a normal fight, yes
but death battle says fights take place in a neutral space with no other people
and without hostages i don't see how bill could ever manipulate discord into a contract
what contract would it even be?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The fight now takes place in gravity falls and Weirdmageddon is passively beefing Discord by its nature >Bill cant access the horses now since he is a dimension cuck who needs to jump through a thousand hoops just to get to another nearby dimension
3 months ago
Anonymous
What "moment of weakness" is there going to be in the middle of a fight?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Anon you are ignoring the defined rules for the fights they use. There wouldnt be any hostage situation shit
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Bill is still holding the horses hostage
So he gets an advantage from the start for some reason? Not like it matters much when he can just finger snap em away
>He will just force a contract!
Now you are just going full headcanon. Your entire argument hinges on a non neutral scenario that Discord can easily circumvent anyway with just his standard abilities.
is stronger >No
Yes. No Tales character ever passes planetary and Ichigo killed Ywhach who was going to destroy 3 Earth sized realms.
has spam >Won't save him
It will keep Lud moving so he can't find an opening to attack
can bounce his attacks away >He's not bouncing those swords away
He bounced back pure energy, yes he is.
Black person, as in, imbecile, they weren't 3 earth sized realms. They were 3 universes. He was going to collapse them. And Ichigo doesn't scale to him, you fricking moronic b***h. Ichigo was hopeless when Yhwach started using his full power to initiate the ending of everything. Learn to scale.
In what fricking alternate universe does Ichigo scale to FRICKING YHWACH???????
This is like that guy who thought Doctor Who merely existing in Marvel made him homieversal or something.
and? sometimes a character is just pure dead-weight
luffy is the weakest of the trio by far, shit, he would probably die as collateral in a fight between naruto and ichigo
Guldo is weaker than Sayain Saga Vegeta yet is on the Ginyu Force for his hax, Luffy being able to see the future and reflect attacks back and hit Lud's internal organs with ACoA isn't anything to flat out ignore.
3 months ago
Anonymous
yes, and guldo was ultimately a worthless jobbing b***h who almost lost to keklin and babyhan
JJK it's likely to cap at City level (Sukuna is currently City block level so that would be reasonable if he gets really wanked by Gege)
CSM is weird, I don't even know where is the story heading to. But I can see Death being planetary (not in the sense she can destroy the planet but rather that her Hax could likely affect the entire world)
if we know about GayGay then I won’t be surprised if he will let Sukuna to go full Kaguya Otsutsuki and would capable to destroy the moon or something higher.
Depends if kakashi can bypass infinity, so yeah probably
3 months ago
Anonymous
Based on fricking what? Nowhere it's stated that Kakashi can bypass infinity.
3 months ago
Anonymous
He means through something like Kamui or the Sharingan
3 months ago
Anonymous
Kamui can only bypass infinity if you use it like Obito. From the inside to the outside.
Kakashi would have to move his dimensional hole through the rift of infinity that Gojo can create. So no, he can't touch Gojo with it.
They arent jungian archetypes, the devils are concepts (the darkness devil is darkness, the death devil is death,ect) thats why makima comes back as nayuta when she dies (she is a archetypal concept) and why pochita can eat devils and erase them from existence and nobody remembers them (only makima remembers them because she has conceptual resistance)
Depending on how you look at it, both verses are already at planetary (or reaching it in JJK’s case) from Falling reversing the entire planet’s gravity just by existing and Yuki turning into a black hole that could destroy the Earth in time. So endgame wise I can see planet level being a set in stone thing for both.
Lowball for chainsaw man, maybe like island-country, lowball for jjk island-continent.
Highball for csm outerversal (the devils are concepts, so you can argue it), highball for jjk universal-higher dimensional (most kf the verse is based on mathematics so I could see it getting weird)
JJK it's likely to cap at City level (Sukuna is currently City block level so that would be reasonable if he gets really wanked by Gege)
CSM is weird, I don't even know where is the story heading to. But I can see Death being planetary (not in the sense she can destroy the planet but rather that her Hax could likely affect the entire world)
>But I can see Death being planetary (not in the sense she can destroy the planet but rather that her Hax could likely affect the entire world)
That's just Surface level. Barely 10% of the planet 😀
>flash is CANONICALLY A HUMAN TOILET
Anyone who still consumes modern DC products is a genuine cuck. Imagine paying to see them do this to your heroes. Repulsive.
I blame trainwreck culture for at least 50% of the sales on this fricking trash.
I also blame edgy/nihilistic/socialist losers who hate Heroes conceptually for 25%
dies like a b***h, has his ring taken, and is left in his underwear >Nobody cares about him or what?
I literally had to Google his death myself, so it would seem so.
Simon hasn’t even appeared on the show yet. The people patting each other on the back because of PODCAST episodes where everyone gets wanked to the extreme or just has stuff made up about them (aka people will just lie there) are delusional. At least wait for him to appear on the show before getting wienery. In fact, how come you never see literally any other charactergay blow their load from winning a podcast debate? Discussion about it dies down within like two hours of it happening, but Gurrengays will cling to them for months. It’s beyond head scratching.
>Swan was wanking for characters
You mean the thing he does for every podcast.
For every character he’s up against.
Every.
Single.
Time.
It’s literally not special in the slightest, but Gurren Laggays are treating it like the second coming of Christ that he used wank when that’s the entire point of the podcasts. You don’t see frickin’ Bengays cumming their brains out for nearly an entire year over beating Swan in the podcasts. You don’t see Dekugays doing it. You don’t see Yujibros doing it. The list goes on and on. Only Simongays cling to the podcasts like their lives depend on it.
Are you trying to imply they don't lie in their main show as well?
What? What does that have to do with anything I said. Are you illiterate?
because Swan got genuinely pissed off over it which made it funny.
Again, that shit happens often. You still don’t see people clinging to it for months.
...Yes. Read the post that was being replied to dumbass
3 months ago
Anonymous
I made the post, moronbro. The “implication” was that whoever’s arguing on the podcast will pull shit out of thin air for their arguments. That’s it. Use that head of yours, it’ll do you good.
>What character can beat a character wanked by Swank >Simon >N-NOOOO
Just take the L Swan
3 months ago
Anonymous
My point was that Gurrengays have been clinging onto their podcast episodes since 2023, despite no one else caring enough to do so. Also you realize that Swan’s record on PC EPs is like a 1:8 ration in terms of W/L right.
Let's talk about good match ups, or at least interesting aspects of certain match ups.
For example pic. I think Naruto stomps using his Rikudo form, but loses using Varyon Mode. Weird considering the latter is supposed to have a higher ouput of power
>While my hope fuels my every action, there exists a secret yearning deep within my heart for these vibrant, waxy treats. As I reach for a box of crayons, the hues of red, blue, and green beckon me, reminding me of the bloodshed on the battlefield.
Why is Kratos so fricking stupid, bros?
>Ruffy-San... Ichigo-San.. He was way too much for us huh? But we did good right? Saibaman-Sama really did a number on us... He may have made us look like total pussies... But we gave our best! *Sniff* *cries*
Realistically how strong are Saibamen? Planet level?
I think Ichigo, Naruto, and Luffy, at their best should at least be capable of defeating one of them
>Kronos who beat up Ouranos
Are you sure? I thought Kronos cut off his dad's balls in a sneak attack. That doesn't sound like quite a fair fight to me. >He also beat up the fates who control every timeline
The DMV controls automobiles in America, but if you beat up its head that doesn't mean you could beat all the cars in America in a fist fight.
Only if they don't treat Seiya like a flashy novelty item, which they totally would. Most homosexuals, and I mean F A G G O T S who invoke Pegasus Seiya's good name only do so because of his perceived power level and not because they like the character or the series.
No. Galactus was the one who got put at a gorillion dimensions while Superman/DC was 6D or something. Galactus VS Unicron comically made Marvelverse way beyond DCverse which just makes Phoenix losing to Raven and Apocalypse beating Black Adam even wackier given the matches were relatively close together
>Galactus got a fricktillion number of dimensions while DC is limited to 6D >This will never be referenced again in the next season when they decide to have Marvel lose to DC
i have literally never seen the original page. angloids took this brazilian comic book to wank mortal kombat. there is nothing that is too low for them
I mean, they already use test your might and hypothetical character weights (for the sake of juggling them in the air with attacks) to bump up their characters.
Nah, this is one of those matches I rather see happening canonically (written by Sandro himself) than made by DB. The amount of OOC needed for Ohma to kill a JK would be "Hal Jordan" levels of awful
Assuming this was Sandro at his best >Hina, being the motherfricker she is, gets Ohma to fight her via threatening chemical attacks and shit. >Shit happens >Ohma wins, of course >"The Ashura stopped the "Revolution""
In Kengan?
Sorta. Karura attacked Ohma to test him before she made her "Proposal"
I could see sparring but definitely not an official ass whooping match. If everyone's in character some of the Kengan fighters would think less of Ohma if he had a match with a chick IMO
3 months ago
Anonymous
Probably. Unless said chick had a bioweapon stockpile and was literally blackmailing him
This is completely wrong, here is what would truly happen >Hina, being the motherfricker she is, gets Ohma to fight her via threatening chemical attacks and shit. >Shit happens >"But in that exact moment Hina had a premonition..." >Ohma wins, of course >"The Ashura stopped the "Revolution""
I mean, not really. The only time Ohma’s thrown a punch at a chick was when he literally didn’t even know that she was a girl. And when he DID find out he didn’t even want to fight her anymore. Even his training with fem Kures consisted of just bullet dodging, while his training with male Kures was actual full on brawls. Hell, I don’t even think a female has gotten hit or even really hurt in Kengan.
>nikogay’s schizophrenia has progressed to the point he unironically saved nikos uncensored butthole and has been posting it >no one has done anything about it
Godzillabros… this is the degenerate standing against us
He’s just a homosexual (constantly saving pictures of overweight men’s buttholes) and needs everyone to know about his fetishes. Apparently he’s also in his thirties so there’s that.
You already have FTL UT from Frisk dodging Flowey’s lasers, evading Gaster Blasters, and out speeding/tanking Hyper Goner blowing up a timeline. The blinds thing is unironically the dumbest argument for LS.
Both Flowey and Blaster thing is aim dodging, and Hyper Goner is Immeasurable speed feat, which is irrelevant for this discussion, plus this feat specifically makes Undertale even faster, since Napstablook is some of the more pathetic fighters compared to the likes of Undyne or Sans
Truth be told, I still think that even if it’s aim dodging it’s still ridiculously fast, and should realistically get them up to FTL speeds, or LS+ at the very least. Evading an entire blunt rotation of lasers up close should still put them in that range. And Napsta isn’t that weak or pathetic imo.
Now that the main outrage ended I think Batman was lucky to be killed the way they did.
Flash got his corpse pissed on
GL ended up nude and his ring taken
WW doesn't even have a boss fight, she just bullied the SS (a good thing actually) and died to supes
He was shot by Harley but at least they didn't make any jokes about his corpse and his contingency plans made him relevant for the plot
Daily reminder that Seth confirmed that Kratos would solo Elder (bo)Ring and the rest of the Souls shit. Before he was condemned to jail for hitting a 17 years old when he was 19. What a sick frick.
Congorilla vs Gorilla-Man. Somehow, it's shot up to over 700 views, which is huge for a channel as tiny as mine. DC Gorilla meme magic might in fact be real.
Bonus: A short video on how the plane fight scene from Raiders of the Lost Arc might have been inspired by an old Congo Bill story.
Mmm nah. Death Battle is shit, buy no reason to frick over Yates and Wolf. Plus it'd remove stuff like One Minute Melee and other fun fight animations.
>Martian Manhunter
Gets murked by Barbatos who can't even one shot the DC universe (prove me wrong) >Jiren
Was stronger than SSB Goku who is multiversal
Jiren wins
>B-but the DC universe is bigger according to...
No, they're both infinite.
>twitter troon screenshot
that's also a blatant mistranslation, Daizenshuu 7 and the other Daizenshuu guidebooks all refer to there being only 4 galaxies (North, South, East, and West)
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nope. Herms translated correctly. Even the Super SPAnga says it.
>this says Snake Way is 1 million kilometres long >the irl sun is 149 million killometres away
This just proves it further, the Dragon Ball universe is tiny as frick
>thinking that Snake way takes the most of afterlife >ignoring that afterlife is infinite in size >same as living world
Kekaroooooo!!! Keep spouting your headcanon. Bring up your namek reddit post. You already got clowned on.
3 months ago
Anonymous
it's not infinite in size if it all takes place within a finite globe, and can be traversed at all by only 1 million kilometres
3 months ago
Anonymous
>more headcanon babble
Post offical soruces, like I did. Otherwise, your headcanon is useless.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sources*
3 months ago
Anonymous
like you did...where you were unable to crop out that Snake Way is only 1 million kilometres. Making the entire globe smaller than a solar system.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>still no offical source >more headcanon babble
3 months ago
Anonymous
read the story you yourself are a fanboy of, please, not just vsbattle mistranslations. Chapter 205: 'a warrior in hell', it's 1 million miles.
WTF is this moron even saying? >OG DB
Moon buster >Saiyan arc
Planet buster >Namek arc
Star buster >Cell arc
Solar System buster >Buu arc
Galaxy buster >BoG arc
Universe buster >RoF arc
Multiverse buster >U6 arc
4D/ timeline buster >Goku Black arc
Infinite 4D buster >ToP
Infinite 5D buster
Why infinite 5d? It's because the Infinite World of Void is the place that holds the universes and is unaffected by time. The only thing that can hold a dimension (space + time = 4D) is a higher dimension. Hence why Goku was shaking an infinite 5D realm. This means that Goku would have been shaking Mxy's entire dimension if he was in the DCverse (which Superman, Mxy, Mandrakk or Perpetua can't even do).
Goku and Jiren would STOMP the DCfighters
I'm not gonna address it because it's such a fundamental ignorance of reality it would be impossible to explain that a place not having time does not make it 5d. Need I list every space in DC that is unaffected by time? Must we then pretend these are 5d spaces despite existing in a 3d world?
Surely not, we DCbros are far too intelligent and distinguished to demean our own intelligence so desperately for fake vsbattle points.
>a place not having time does not make it 5d >Must we then pretend these are 5d spaces despite existing in a 3d world?
Have you really sunk so low that you have to strawman?
The infinite World of Void is the space the universes (which are 4D) are LOCATED IN.
It the World of Void was affected by time then we would have been talking about a Metaverse or higher.
But that's canonically not the case.
Cope.
3 months ago
Anonymous
ANOTHER comment they're FLEEING from
DBScholars are RIPPING the DCgays a new one
If King Kai's planet is further out than the sun, but only 1 million kilometres away, then that also proves how tiny the dragon ball universe is since the irl sun's diameter is 1.4 kilometres.
You moron. Then why did he need to DIE to get there? Why can't everybody take a spaceship? They did to reach Namek which is on the other aisw od the universe, right?
King Kai's planet is in the afterlife which is another dimension entirely
It's DCgays last straw. Can you see how they're not daring to debate destroying entire timelines and higher dimensions? It's because they know they're outmatched
No. The second you get into universe sizes when both settings spout the word "infinite" as an adjective constantly it just comes down to which setting/character you like more. Yeah yeah different infinite sizes in math and all that, but none of them ever touch that shit and its just people trying to push that for the side they want. Nearly all writers are just using words and numbers that sound cool and dont really care for what they actually mean
I do. Because during some occasions it cancels out and then ends up relying on other aspects like speed, durability, stamina, hax, abilities, etc. Which is part of the reason why I like Shulk Vs Sora [spoiler]
Deathbattle used that exact stat and screwed up the calculation. You can see that in this pic, but did you know that if we correct it to use the correct stats that Goku would have been faster?
I'm not shitting you. I will prove it.
They halved Goku's speed in SS1 instead of multipliying it by 50. You see that right? And then they multiplied that by 2 for SS2 and that by 4 for SS3 and that by 10 for SS4.
Which merans that Goku is 50x faster according to their stats.
Now lets see what they did for Supes in the next image
I think that they did it on purpose to farm drama for clicks. Haven't you noticed that Goku vs Superman are the only battles in which they give entire lectures about how it does not really matter how strong Superman is, because he would always win?
They said that he fought Wonder Woman at 9 billion km per hour, said that he could go faster and ended with this image.
17 billion km per hour which means that Goku, with the corrected stats (50x2.5) has a speed of 125 billion km per hours meaning that he is over 10 times faster than Superman using their own criteria.
Goku speedblitzes Supes. Bro, it would be no challenge
They said that he fought Wonder Woman at 9 billion km per hour, said that he could go faster and ended with this image.
17 billion km per hour which means that Goku, with the corrected stats (50x2.5) has a speed of 125 billion km per hours meaning that he is over 10 times faster than Superman using their own criteria.
Goku speedblitzes Supes. Bro, it would be no challenge
anon even Goku says in the end of Super that SS1 is slower than base form
Do you even peruse your own shit series?
They said that he fought Wonder Woman at 9 billion km per hour, said that he could go faster and ended with this image.
17 billion km per hour which means that Goku, with the corrected stats (50x2.5) has a speed of 125 billion km per hours meaning that he is over 10 times faster than Superman using their own criteria.
Goku speedblitzes Supes. Bro, it would be no challenge
If you actually watched it, you'd know Wiz said that Base Goku's speed was 11,000 kilometers per hour because of the snake way thing. They didn't put Base Goku's speed in SSJ2 to to lowball him, they accidentally put SSJ2 Goku's speed in his base form.
>The rest of the math is still accurate
Don't ever come near my taxes. That's all I''ll say. Enjoy your (you)
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Gocuck still can't math
3 months ago
Anonymous
what did you expect from beaners?
They actually tried to multiply off the typo thinking 64,000,000 (SS2) was the base, lmao. Talk about desperate
3 months ago
Anonymous
What the frick
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Goku is asian >Superman is israeli
YUPPAROOOOOO!!
3 months ago
Anonymous
Prove that the calcs are right. Shouldn't be hard so I'll wait
3 months ago
Anonymous
You could just...actually watch it and follow along what they say, but sure.
11,000km/h from Snake Way. Adjusted for gravity makes it 1100. x 586 makes it 644600
x 50 gives you the SS1 result of 32,230,000
This is why you should stay in math class Gokusisters
3 months ago
Anonymous
SuperSCHOLARS...forgive the gokubros, not everyone can have the equivalent brainpower of our elementary school mathematics
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nice typo, moron
3 months ago
Anonymous
typo that didn't affect the math, since SS1 is correctly calculated from base Snake Way
but then you tried to use the typo to miscalculate Goku's speed as being SS2 in base. Probably because you're too stupid to do basic math, possibly because you're just that desperate for internet upvotes
3 months ago
Anonymous
>SS1 is correctly calculated from base Snake Way
Unholy cope, Joker. You did they same thing they did, as expected from DCtards >internet upvotes
You need to go back
>Gokubitches literally live in a delusional fantasy world made of cope
Superman wouldn't laugh at them, he'd feel sadness for their desperation and try to bring them back to reality
Superman is stated to be Infinite
Dragon Ball universe is finite
Superman blinks and dragon ball universe is destroyed and chichi impregnated by the kryptonian shockwave
>Infinite
At jobbing to characters that are actually some what universal? Breaking the bonds of infinity isn't universal, lifting a infinite mass book isn't universal, Goku shaking his universe by fighting and continously growing stronger after that? Universal feat, Superman has never once speed blitzed anybody anyways besides fricking batman
Realistically most of the top dogs in the JL would beat Goku
Superman: Beats him
WW: Beats him
Batman: Gets beaten against him
GL: Beats him
Flash: Beats him
Martian Manhunter: Likely gets beaten but idk anything about him so maybe he also wins
Aquaman: gets beaten against him
Then you have most of the less popular members, like Green Arrow or Atom, most of which lose against Goku with the exception of heroes like Dr. Fate, Zatanna, or Raven.
Capeshit BS is too much for him. All of those characters win by default the experience/intelligence category just because of their extensive history. And thanks to that they all scale to each other (WW scales to superman, GL scales to superman, Batman's Smarts make statements to wank almost all the JL, MM scales to superman, superman scales to flash, etc)
While this is just basic shit it makes harder and harder for anyone to argue in favor of Goku because then you can pull the high ends for each of them to keep wanking further and further (GL effortless time travel and reality warping shenanigans + some speed feat that is absurd, Superman who now has like thousands of bullshit powers that make him almost untouchable, Flash being Flash, WW Having Bullshit magics and some weird chain scaling that makes her potentially the most busted of the group, etc)
For Goku to win he needs to have the stat advantage, because he is outclassed by all of them in intelligence and experience, and you could argue he has the power advantage using dimensional scaling, but then you enter the rabbit hole of DC's own dimensional scaling.
Then we have speed, and most of the JL has better speed feats than Goku (Superman can reach the end of the universe in seconds, WW moving across the universe blocking some shit from a god or something, GL's traveling the universe in seconds, flash being flash) even if Goku has a power advantage the JL speed feats are better than Goku's speed feats (even without universal bs)
And the thing that seals the deal is the fact that Goku needs oxygen to survive... Meaning he can't use his full universe busting power unless he blows the planet and dies in space without air.
3 months ago
Anonymous
they don't scale like that
3 months ago
Anonymous
the issue is that comicbookt characters are being scaled in a way that hyperinflate their stats. Made worse by the fact that anti feats are completely ignored and to consistency doesn't matter. Writers have been saying for decades. They don't write comics with power scaling. A mind so already choosing the powerscale them. will give you results that are guaranteed to be one hundred percent unintended. As a result present any Of these death battle or battle board stats and calculations to anyone who works at these Comic book companies and don't look at you like you're insane.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>All of those characters win by default the experience/intelligence category just because of their extensive history
It's an arbitrary category, but none of those characters have trained for decades let alone under literal Gods. Goku wins >But look at their new feats
None of those feats are infinite 5th dimensional, which Goku is as seen here
>a place not having time does not make it 5d >Must we then pretend these are 5d spaces despite existing in a 3d world?
Have you really sunk so low that you have to strawman?
The infinite World of Void is the space the universes (which are 4D) are LOCATED IN.
It the World of Void was affected by time then we would have been talking about a Metaverse or higher.
But that's canonically not the case.
Cope.
>he needs to have the stat advantage
Or he can just be stated to be stronger than Infinite Zamasu who had the power to destroy Infinite Timelines (infinite 4D) >Then we have speed
Speed is time over distance. Goku has canonically surpassed time meaning that he can move at zero time. Even the Flash by moving at an attosecond requires time and is thus slower than Goku.
Anything else?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It's an arbitrary category
It is not. It means whatever strategy Goku tries to use will blow up in his face. >but none of those characters have trained for decades
All of them have, some like Superman and WW have trained for a lot more. Even batman has better Martial arts experience Than Goku... >None of those feats are infinite 5th dimensional
Speak like a human, I don't care about that VSBW yapping.
And again if you want to enter dimensional wank DC has more of it... >Or he can just be stated to be stronger than Infinite Zamasu who had the power to destroy Infinite
Wank, but sadly DC's top gods have even more Wank (Superman outputing enough energy to destroy the DB universe 20 times over, existing outside time and space, screaming loud enough to destroy the multiverse etc. WW fodderizing Batkeks who is way above anything shown in DB, Flash just existing, GL tanking a literal retcon, etc) >Goku has canonically surpassed time meaning that he can move at zero time.
Most JL members are still quantifiable faster than him, Goku only surpassed a Hax that stopped time. Also he isn't even near the level of speed flash has.
>GL effortless time travel
Is canonically harder now. >and some ridiculous speed feat
If you mean the ""traveling the universe"" one, it isn't to anyone literate enough to understand what a picture book for children is saying. >Superman has like thousands of bullshit powers
Silver Age had a wide variety, but most weren't all that. The rest tend to have a limited selection, at least as far as battle applicable powers go. >Flash being Flash
This isn't a good thing. >WW Having Bullshit magics and some weird chain scaling that makes her potentially the most busted of the group
I genuinely have no idea what you're even talking about.
What are your argument? Really what's your point?
Even if GL has difficulty traveling through time he still surpasses Goku's speed durability, and maybe even in AP, also he is extremely more seasoned in battle and has the tools to outsmart Goku 100 times before he lands a killing blow
3 months ago
Anonymous
Superman didn't "scream loud enough to destroy the multiverse". Consider reading stories featuring the characters you're talking about.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Considering DBSpics like to use wonky math to say Goku is totally multiversal even when he has never shown any true multiversal feat on his own (all this wank coming from stupid shit like "SS3 has a power booster of 3000 so SS blue must be 53838263386282 times stronger enough to wipe existence with a fart") then is fair game to say Superman's 10000000000 (I don't remember how many ceros it had) decibel scream (something calculated to be enough to destroy the universe) should be considered legit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>UHHHH BUT THE OTHER GUYS
Irrelevant. And the "scream" you're thinking about is probably CYBORG outputting a million decibels.
3 months ago
Anonymous
my argument is-sorry, """are""" that the claims you made are erroneous
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Superman outputting enough energy to destroy the DB verse 20 times over
When? >existing outside time and space
When? >screaming loud enough to destroy the multiverse
This has literally never happened. >WW fodderizing Batkeks who is way above anything shown in DB
While she had an external amp. >Flash just existing
And? >GL tanking a literal retcon
Being unaffected by the event retcons is a special abstract property of the rings, not a durability feat.
What is it with the most fervent DCgays not reading comics or knowing what they're talking about?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>When?
Multiple times during the multiple crisis events >When?
Kryptonians can freely time travel and Clark himself can move outside space and time >This has literally never happened
I am just using the same logic DBSpics use. Golden Age supes scream had enough potency to break a universe. >While she had an external amp
Still a feat of her own >And?
Zoom could counter the destruction of the multiverse with his vibrations, and other lesser speedsters could generate the same force just by running, Flash would obliterate Goku even with Infinite zamasu Scaling
>UHHHH BUT THE OTHER GUYS
Irrelevant. And the "scream" you're thinking about is probably CYBORG outputting a million decibels.
>CYBORG outputting a million decibels
No, Golden Age superman has a screaming feat that surpasses that.
Also you better start posting arguments in favor of Goku, because by focusing only on complaining about other's arguments you show how Canon Goku has no true feats than can equal those of the JL
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Multiple times during the multiple crisis events
Scans. >Kryptonians can freely time travel and Clark himself can move outside space and time
They literally can't. >I am just using the same logic DBSpics use. Golden Age supes scream had enough potency to break a universe.
Other people wanking isn't an excuse for you to wank. >Still a feat of her own
No, because she can't go golden by herself.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>0 arguments in favor of Goku Vs the JL
I won't keep wasting my time with you.
i don't care about goku, but i care about comics, and i'm not about to let someone go around wanking like this
Well this is an argument about Goku Vs the justice league. I don't care about discussing the JLs individual powers, I care about how they compare with Goku.
3 months ago
Anonymous
i don't care about goku, but i care about comics, and i'm not about to let someone go around wanking like this
3 months ago
Anonymous
> Also he isn't even near the level of speed flash has.
Does he really have to be consider the metric fricks ton of slower DC characters that successfully tag and reacted to both Flash,GL and Superman? *cough*Batman Catwoman Death stoke Prometheus*cough*
3 months ago
Anonymous
If you want to go down that path then Goku ends up way worse.
The "Kii control" meme shows that without said Kii Goku's physical stats are far bellow even the likes of Aquaman.
Characters like Batman (who's armors can drain said energy and are fast enough to tag Goku and smart enough to trick him) could de power him until his durability is that of a above average human.
Also under the same "Kii control" excuse we can determine that Goku has a hard cap of the amount of power he can launch at someone. If he uses a planet level attack for example he would end up destroying earth killing himself in the process for the lack of oxygen.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Batman >Tagging Goku
3 months ago
Anonymous
and Superman's physical stats are even lower without sun power
your point?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>GL effortless time travel
Is canonically harder now. >and some ridiculous speed feat
If you mean the ""traveling the universe"" one, it isn't to anyone literate enough to understand what a picture book for children is saying. >Superman has like thousands of bullshit powers
Silver Age had a wide variety, but most weren't all that. The rest tend to have a limited selection, at least as far as battle applicable powers go. >Flash being Flash
This isn't a good thing. >WW Having Bullshit magics and some weird chain scaling that makes her potentially the most busted of the group
I genuinely have no idea what you're even talking about.
Probably the fact the highest character that Dragon Ball even has is still bound by time and there are beings in DC who exist across every timeline and universe within the greater multiverse.
I still can't believe they wasted J'onn on fricking Silver Surfer of all people, we could have had the fight in the OP and we got that dreck, J'onn's not even Surfer's best opponent from DC they didn't go with his actual crossover in Kyle Rayner or his actual counterpart in William Walker/Black Racer or the popular matchup in Captain Atom or the interesting contrasts of Lobo
Barbatos >Needs fighters across the entire Dasrk Multiverse to fight for him
Justice League >Needs Xth metal power ups to defeat a non-universe buster >WW defeats him in the end
The infinite you're referring to is relative to the universe.
Goku can literally destroy Infinite Zamasu, a being who had merged with INFINITE timelines
Infinite 4D > Infinite Multiverse > Infinite Universe (you are here)
KINGtos
why are these getting pruned so much?
It happens fairly often in the downtime between seasons. This one will probably get deleted too because it's too much like a general
For whoever is the next OP at least give us something to work with
I made one asking General Vs debate stuff and trying to start a conversation (the only DB thing the thread had was the thumbnail) and it still got deleted
>why are these getting pruned so much?
Mods fear us >:)
No clue.
What?
So does Baby (assuming he is in his Baby Vegeta state) have any good match ups? I feel like most them run into issues with being able to purge Baby from Vegeta's body. Or more pressingly, his whole shtick is all about possessing and controlling even though he by himself is very strong. His ace in the hole technique is an evil Spirit Bomb as well. So yeah, what could you feasibly give him?
One particular janny we btfo'd, I guess.
which janny?
Whichever one starts xir shift at 6 AM Mountain.
The one who defends Makima.
Lazy homosexual mods finally got to work on this troony /dbs/ cesspit
They're trying to stop me from figuring out why people get so mad when I call Billcord rigged. They definitely rigged it btw.
JOBcords arguments were reliant on people unironically taking his card game statements at face value. Even without moronic leddit interviews Bill could still easily trick SHARTcord into accepting a contract by hanging the horses over his head. Also, horsegays deserve nothing but losses for being so mentally ill. Say what you will about Ggays, at least they haven’t shot anyone.
>Bill is heavily reliant on the research staff's tunnel vision head canon because he shits himself without it
>Ggays aren't mentally ill
Have you forgotten Dipper at Taco Bell?
1. Didn’t say that.
2. Didn’t say that either.
Making a weird as shit fanfic story =/= opening fire on a UPS worker because Orange Horse told you to do so. It says a lot about YOU that these two events are somehow comparable in your mind, really backs up my belief about Horsegays being fricking crazy. Also
>headcanon
I’m pretty sure that SHARTcord has done more for less when it came to pink horse. Unless you’re implying he wouldn’t take a deal that robs him of his power if it meant she didn’t get her fricking brains blown out.
I said it because they use it just to say none of Bill's mistakes in the finale count so his "kaleidoscope future vision" isn't negged by his own personality and short temper.
>"Why didn't Wolverine just kidnap Raiden's son and force Raiden to let Wolverine kill him? What is he stupid?"
What the frick are you even talking about. I’m using my own arguments, why are you referring to the video? And part of Bill’s personality is using emotional manipulation, hostages, and bonds to his advantage via mentally fricking with someone so that they give him what he wants. It is fully in character for him to point a finger gun and Pink Horses’ head and say “make a deal with me that you’ll have a nice day forever or else I’m going to splatter this moronic b***hes brain across the empty cosmos”.
>UHHH BUT HE JOBS!!!
Ok. Do you want me to bring up TARDcords jobbing moments too? You want me to bring up how it’s equally in character for him to give shit up, especially his own life, for pink horse?
*at
Not and.
NTA but Billcord was pretty stupid even based on what they were using.
>Muh vision
Pretty irrelevant since he demonstrates its shit or nonexistant by losing to two children and a con artist.
>But he said so via an AMA larp
In said larp he also says he is a perpetual liar so anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt at minimum
>Soul manipulation!
Bill never displayed this. Dream shenanigans is not soul manipulation.
On chaos horse's side, he ironically had more grounds for soul manipulation shit based on what they said. They gave him the RPG which explicitly states he knows ALL spells even from other media (including D&D) but conveniently ignored that. They also say he'd eventually come back no matter what but ignore how he can time travel so in practice even if Bill did beat him, he'd just reappear a second later and laugh at him while Bill was trapped.
Speedy was pretty autistic about that episode and I think they just gave the triangle the win to shut him up and to finally be done with pony shit
My friend, I immediately disavowed the AMA shit in my very first post. I didn’t even mention anything regarding “soul manipulation” because while he DOES have it (he tore Dipper’s out of his body after he accepted a contract) I don’t think it’s even relevant to his wincons aside from the fact that he can survive without one to an extent (he was still alive in the DVD set but that was due to the wish he made to the Axolotl). Again, I’m not even arguing about the shit they used in the episode itself, I’m giving my own opinions and arguments as to how Bill still wins. It’s funny that you mentioned the RPG shit though, because I ALSO mentioned that in my first post because I think unironically pointing to it is just as moronic as taking Bills reddit shit at face value.
>Dicksword knows EVERY spell bro!!! Just look at this one singular line from a card game!!
Let’s assume that this is fully literal and you’re totally meant to take it seriously and not as a joke. Let’s assume that he does know every single spell in the history of fiction and can use fricking Zettaflare or Babidi’s Mind Control. How does that help him if Bill threatens to kick Pink Horse into the sun. How does that help him if Bill decides to hide away in a different dimension, or swipe that magic absorbing bell. Beyond that though, it has the same level of validity as Bill’s AMA due to how fricking vague it is, and I’m not even sure if it’s just referring to the spells in Horse World or in fiction in general. But disregarding that, even if Dill Swash (I’m running out of alternatives) comes back 0.000000000000001 seconds after getting killed by Bill, he still got killed by Bill. He lost at that point.
>threatens to kick pink horse into the sun.
This is operating on no outside influence is it not and even then there are plenty of workarounds with that. You underestimate the levels of bullshit D&D spells are packing.
>lol I'll just kick your friend into the su-
>I cast Wish/Imprisonment/Plane Shift/etc lol
>Frick
>He still got killed by Bill
Revive/return stuff have been involved in past matches (see Chosen Undead and Hulk). It only matters if it takes too long for them to get back into the fight for it to count as an L which would be a problem for chaos horse in this scenario
Bill didnt take Dipper's soul out. It was related to the mindscape which is not souls
And again what you deem stupid for them to have is unrelated to what I am talking about as I also think some shit they both got were dumb. Going by what they both were given in the ep, chaos horse should have won. That RPG thing alone is too busted combined with his multiple means of time travel
wouldnt be a problem*
I didn’t say that it was stupid for them to have. I said it was stupid AND utterly baseless since one relies on a single line and quite literally your own goddamn imagination, and the other relies on taking a known liar at face value. The spell thing is just more idiotic in my eyes because it’s literally just a crutch that forces the debate into the direction of pulling up Wikipedia and searching for random spells, despite the fact that Discord hasn’t shown the capability of being able to use spells from other verses in scenarios where it would greatly benefit him to do so. Even now your argument revolves around him pulling a spell out of his ass that’ll save him instead of his actual abilities save for time travel.
>Bill didnt take Dipper's soul out. It was related to the mindscape which is not souls
You’re forgetting later on where Bill explicitly states that Dipper was effectively a ghost due to not having a vessel. If that’s not spiritual in nature then I don’t know what is. Regardless of that though, I already said that I don’t think soul shenanigans has anything to do with his wincons because it doesn’t. His manipulation and wits are what give him the win more times than not. Time travel? Bill is still holding the horses hostage and can very easily merk them if his opponent gets too haughty. Pulling spells out of his ass? Jumping in and out of different dimensions to avoid them is fully valid. Revival? Bill can and will force him into a contract if he feels as though the fight is getting too long. Regardless of if he has prior knowledge on the horses or not (in this scenario he would since his usual tactic revolves around spying on a world before going in to Weird it Up, so he’d realistically see whatever relationship PH and DC have), threatening ALL of the horses and making Disc give up his life permanently for them is very much in character.
Why does Bill get to hold a bunch of people who aren't involved in the fight hostage?
>His manipulation and wits
>Gets outwitted by two pre teens and a con artist on more than one occasion
Well I didn’t say that he wasn’t an idiot. But you would be lying if you said that tricking his opponents isn’t part of his entire schtick.
1. Weirdmageddon would already lay the groundwork for Bill to have the horse verse, Pink one included, at his mercy. The hostage situation thing is just me working off of the animation, but even ignoring that it would be normal for him to have them in a state of danger at that point.
2. Headcanon? Bill’s never used a disadvantageous situation to force someone to take a contract? Bill has never used hostages to make people bend to his will? Bill has never manipulated someone into giving something up in a moment of weakness? Answer wisely. The only thing that I won’t argue against is Weirdmageddon being a non-neutral state in nature, but at the same time it’s basically part of Bill’s “full power” in a sense so you can’t exactly ignore it because you don’t like it.
but that's like making a fight that's "Ben ten's grandpa vs Superman" and then saying "Ben's grandpa wins because Superman refuses to fight back since Ben is using Alien X to hold the justice league hostage"
They aren't part of the fight, let alone a preestablished advantage
No, that’s like making the fight “Batman Vs Homelander” and then saying that Homelander wins because he’d force Batman into a disadvantageous situation by targeting civilians, making him frick by trying to save them. You don’t seem to understand that by threatening the horse verse at ALL, Bill is indirectly threatening pink horse, and in doing so he’s actively putting his opponent in a situation where he can directly benefit from their mind wavering. That’s what I’m getting at.
Bill can freely create a moment of weakness via emotionally and mentally fricking with DC. Again, that is fully in character and it’s how he gets most of his shit done in the first place.
See the first and second replies.
Anon, you do know the animation is just flavor for fun right? Your headcanon manipulation thing isnt how they go with it and is a non factor by their rules. Even then, Bill's level of manipulation sucks. It took him millennia just to jump ONE dimension and he was bamboozled multiple times along the way by literal children
I’m not basing my argument on the animation, I’m basing it on how Weirdmageddon normally works. That’s where majority of my argument is coming from. When WMD opens up, it gives Bill the leeway to threaten the world’s inhabitants via chaos and the likes, and that in turn allows for him to push his opponent into a corner and manipulate them by threatening whoever’s present. If he didn’t have that boost at ALL I wouldn’t even be taking this stance.
>Bill’s level of manipulation sucks
A gun to the heads of millions works wonders when it comes to manipulation, especially if one of those heads is someone the person you’re threatening is fond of. To reiterate, so that my point is as clear as possible, by opening up Weirdmageddon, Bill can and will use the lives of the inhabitants, which will 100% include pink horse (even in a “neutral” ground the fight taking place in or eventually leading to horse land makes sense because of Bill being a conqueror and knowing how to get to other worlds) to make his opponent bend the knee.
The contract could easily be something along the lines of “give me all your power” or “stay in this impassible hole forever”. It doesn’t need to be elaborate.
You forget that the Nightmare Realm and dimensional rifts solve this issue entirely since he can travel between dimensions with that. He stopped being stuck in the dimensional cuck chair (sort of) once he managed to fully enter GF and become 3D.
Why would discord sign that
>Discord just goes back in time and stops the deal that makes the rift happen in the first place
>Discord takes the fight somewhere else that isn't affected by by WMD and cuts off Bill from his power gain
Bill's level of manipulation is basic as hell, he's just a glorified salesman, lying to a person when they're at their weakest. Discord actually delves into a person weakness and flaws. He's also know for setting stuff up and using misdirection. They're method of tricking people aren't even close and Discord's ways are a perfect counter towards someone like Bill.
Again dude, you seem to be keen on giving Bill this unnecessary advantage. Unlike Discord, Bill knows nothing about his opponent so there's no realistic way for him to know about holding someone hostage. Plus there's other ways to turn the whole contract around, like making the deal to allow Bill inside Discord's head which would take the fight to a mental landscape. Then Discord would just kill Bill like he did in the show.
>Discord just shoves Bill into a portal into the frick off dimension and leaves gim there
and you would have a point in a normal fight, yes
but death battle says fights take place in a neutral space with no other people
and without hostages i don't see how bill could ever manipulate discord into a contract
what contract would it even be?
>The fight now takes place in gravity falls and Weirdmageddon is passively beefing Discord by its nature
>Bill cant access the horses now since he is a dimension cuck who needs to jump through a thousand hoops just to get to another nearby dimension
What "moment of weakness" is there going to be in the middle of a fight?
Anon you are ignoring the defined rules for the fights they use. There wouldnt be any hostage situation shit
>Bill is still holding the horses hostage
So he gets an advantage from the start for some reason? Not like it matters much when he can just finger snap em away
>He will just force a contract!
Now you are just going full headcanon. Your entire argument hinges on a non neutral scenario that Discord can easily circumvent anyway with just his standard abilities.
Ludger? Solos the HST.
True
False
Ichigo is stronger, Naruto has spam, and Luffy can just bounce all his attacks away and see the future.
>Ichigo is stronger
No
>Naruto has spam
Won't save him
>Luffy can bounce his attacks away
He's not bouncing those swords away
is stronger
>No
Yes. No Tales character ever passes planetary and Ichigo killed Ywhach who was going to destroy 3 Earth sized realms.
has spam
>Won't save him
It will keep Lud moving so he can't find an opening to attack
can bounce his attacks away
>He's not bouncing those swords away
He bounced back pure energy, yes he is.
>island level Luffy
>bouncing back attacks from someone who is AT LEAST planetary
Oh you're that moron who never bothered to learn the joules in a volcanic eruption.
Black person, as in, imbecile, they weren't 3 earth sized realms. They were 3 universes. He was going to collapse them. And Ichigo doesn't scale to him, you fricking moronic b***h. Ichigo was hopeless when Yhwach started using his full power to initiate the ending of everything. Learn to scale.
Ichigo is building-city block lvl, cry about it (kid goku victim)
no, he's planetary
Nu un
In what fricking alternate universe does Ichigo scale to FRICKING YHWACH???????
This is like that guy who thought Doctor Who merely existing in Marvel made him homieversal or something.
The one Kubo is making for the anime to give it a better ending.
What, is he going to make Yhwach kill everyone?
Ichigo will win without the Silver Arrow. I believe!
That will just make him a Mary Sue and make Yhwach look ridiculous. He's supposed the be that unbeatable guy.
>That will just make him a Mary Sue
I mean he IS every race so...
daddy yhwach is going to buckbreak you again
the sooner you accept it the bettwr
There won't be a better ending. The Yhwachening ALWAYS arrives. I accepted it long ago.
OPUSger the BEAST soloed his ENTIRE TEAM
He pulled through in a 1v8
OPUSger the CULTIVATOR of CHROMATUS destroys universes for a living.
>He's not bouncing those swords away
Those swords are rubber
>Those swords are rub-AAAAIIIIEEEEEE SAVE ME NARUTO-SAMA SAVE MEEEEE
next?
even though i disagree with your naruto and ichigo points i can still see where you're coming from
but why the frick are you arguing for luffy
Because it's a 3v1?
and? sometimes a character is just pure dead-weight
luffy is the weakest of the trio by far, shit, he would probably die as collateral in a fight between naruto and ichigo
Guldo is weaker than Sayain Saga Vegeta yet is on the Ginyu Force for his hax, Luffy being able to see the future and reflect attacks back and hit Lud's internal organs with ACoA isn't anything to flat out ignore.
yes, and guldo was ultimately a worthless jobbing b***h who almost lost to keklin and babyhan
Damn, Luffy can see just how HARD OPUSger is going to gape them???!?????
Yup yup. BEASTger? The winner.
>J*ren
Irrelevant character after his arc.
>BEASTren
One of the most relevant characters post-arc.
Erencel vs Spider NTR
hopefully the Jannies calm down when s11 starts, these are actually my best way of finding the consensus for who wins MUS
reddit is shit for that
Who wins?
If you're going to post coomer shit at least post something good like picrel
At least HE posted something tolerable on the right.
Miruko is for Captain Mizuki.
That's homosexual shit.
>coomshit
>only human
>scaly/fur shit
>no humans
Scalies ares based and not diarrhea inducing, unlike furries
SHITbattle? On its way to /trash/.
>B-but
Back. To. /trash/.
Frick off rwbygay
Looks like people are starting to accept Samurai 8 as lore for the Naruto series. Prepare for C1 Naruto.
>SHITbattle? On its way to /trash/.
>>B-but
>Back. To. /trash/.
>JOBkemon
Is about to rendered irrelevant by CHADworld.
Same language used to describe Aizen and then Ichigo.
>JOBzilla
Hulk victim.
Narutoverse is strong as frick.
Wait? So if being a spirit makes you strong, does madara job to casper the friendly ghost?
Sans victims
Why does Yhwach look like he would have a deep Hispanic accent and constantly say "Hombre"?
Bleach is set in Mexico
all the pieces.... they're coming together........
I believe he was intended to more invoke the likes of Kaiser Wilhelm
So how strong will chainsaw man and jjk be at the end of their series?
Neither are reaching Mountain level unless we get some pre/post war arc Naruto tier moron amps
>Unless we get some moron tier amps
>Next week,
>Jujutsu Kaisen Z and Chainsaw Man GT is announced.
JJK it's likely to cap at City level (Sukuna is currently City block level so that would be reasonable if he gets really wanked by Gege)
CSM is weird, I don't even know where is the story heading to. But I can see Death being planetary (not in the sense she can destroy the planet but rather that her Hax could likely affect the entire world)
Both are planetary minimum, high galaxy end
hahahaha
if we know about GayGay then I won’t be surprised if he will let Sukuna to go full Kaguya Otsutsuki and would capable to destroy the moon or something higher.
>GayGay
Who?
He means Gege the author of JJK
Oh yeah, i don't watch that.
Does that gojo guy beat kakashi?
No
Depends if kakashi can bypass infinity, so yeah probably
Based on fricking what? Nowhere it's stated that Kakashi can bypass infinity.
He means through something like Kamui or the Sharingan
Kamui can only bypass infinity if you use it like Obito. From the inside to the outside.
Kakashi would have to move his dimensional hole through the rift of infinity that Gojo can create. So no, he can't touch Gojo with it.
I've seen some CSM wank that puts the verse at low outerversal due to Jungian Archetypes or something
Jungian archetypes don't exist in CSM
They arent jungian archetypes, the devils are concepts (the darkness devil is darkness, the death devil is death,ect) thats why makima comes back as nayuta when she dies (she is a archetypal concept) and why pochita can eat devils and erase them from existence and nobody remembers them (only makima remembers them because she has conceptual resistance)
Depending on how you look at it, both verses are already at planetary (or reaching it in JJK’s case) from Falling reversing the entire planet’s gravity just by existing and Yuki turning into a black hole that could destroy the Earth in time. So endgame wise I can see planet level being a set in stone thing for both.
Lowball for chainsaw man, maybe like island-country, lowball for jjk island-continent.
Highball for csm outerversal (the devils are concepts, so you can argue it), highball for jjk universal-higher dimensional (most kf the verse is based on mathematics so I could see it getting weird)
What's Yhwach's deal, Bleachgays bring this guy up constantly from what I've seen of them in Death Battle threads.
He looks at the future and punches you in it
Why not punch me in the present?
Because you can't do shit about it in the future
More like he finds the future he punched you among the infinite timeliness and selects that future
It's basically an infinite Izanagi
he sees all the futures
he can force whichever future he likes to take place
The reason Yhwach would lose to Kaguya in the first second of the match:
>Yhwach isn't ominpotent so he loses to Kaguya
What kind of argument is this?
She puts him to sleep. Eeasy 3-0, bye bye.
Naruto? Multiversal is a lowball
…and by lowball I mean “not even remotely close”
Boruchads will soon rise.
Will he finally get canon incest or no?
>61 posts
>10 images
>15 posters
I love me, thanks me
>Naruto
Heart-rending, emotive, funny, charming, beautiful. Pure gold.
>Bort
Shit
Bortbros.......we can't refute this..........
Oh hey, the schizo from Cinemaphile posts here too.
Huh?
>being truthful means you are a schizo
your reasoning is jobbing to common sense
You're a Bleachgay so youre opinion doesn't matter to me.
🙁
>But I can see Death being planetary (not in the sense she can destroy the planet but rather that her Hax could likely affect the entire world)
That's just Surface level. Barely 10% of the planet 😀
>That's just Surface level. Barely 10% of the planet 😀
Yeah, that's the word I couldn't come up with. Surface level.
>Yeah, that's the word I couldn't come up with
Skill Issue 😀
Who wins?
Reminder once and for all that all kaijus job to Niko and the Ass Void!!!
CHECKED
God bless and keep you, anon.
>morbidly obese self inserting samehomosexual
O. MY. GOODNESS…godzilla bros how do we cope?
Boomstickbros! Our guy is also beating Iron Dome!
moron
Have him beat up the Palestinian hero or you're a pussy.
Ain't no way these Black folk aren't using Digimon in an episode next season
Any good 2v2 match ups where the teams are made with people from different verses?
Goku and Superman vs Darkseid and Freiza.
they gave Goku Anti-Toonforce
Who? Speedy? I know he goes by "they" that's why I assumed it was him.
Flashsisters... We were used as a human toilet.
That Sonic image......it was ACTUAL CANON.........
gentlemen.....post it.
No
The Chaos Hax is real
>flash is CANONICALLY A HUMAN TOILET
Anyone who still consumes modern DC products is a genuine cuck. Imagine paying to see them do this to your heroes. Repulsive.
I blame trainwreck culture for at least 50% of the sales on this fricking trash.
I also blame edgy/nihilistic/socialist losers who hate Heroes conceptually for 25%
Yep
>this is canon
Anti-dialsGODS..... I KNEEL........
The only death I haven't seen talked about so far is Green Lantern's
Nobody cares about him or what?
dies like a b***h, has his ring taken, and is left in his underwear
>Nobody cares about him or what?
I literally had to Google his death myself, so it would seem so.
chili dog
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>sonic x shadow generations
but could they beat buy?
Just J.
>B-
And also Christ is king.
KRATOS is King.
>Swan went up against Simon again
>Simon still wins even when spite voted
ROW ROW
Who should he fight?
Donte.
Dante
War from Darksiders
Out of these two, I can correctly predict that they'd both get their asses handed to them by Superman! And the reasoning is Superman has no limits!!
>Superman wins his 3rd Death Battle
>Batman looks like a jobber to the fricking Suicide Squad
Why is Bruce such a jobber Batbros?
Superman: 3 Wins and 0 Loses
Wonder Woman: 2 Wins and 1 Lose
Batman: 1 win and 3 loses
Bruce is giving the DC trinity a bad reputation on Death Battle
At least Flash is picking up some more of the JL slack.
chilli dogs
Goyslop
you are turning into a toilet...!
No, anon. You are. In fact, you've been a toilet for most of your life.
CHADlly ate plenty of chilli dogs after winning his fight with Sonic.
he ate so many that he turned into a toilet and sonic came back to life
>Wally beat the shit out of that loser cuckold Sonic AND brought him back to life with his power
Kekaroo! Wally is so incredible
the CHAOS META HAX made ezra miller frick children
and then turn into a toilet
Godzilla
>CHUDzilla
Ass Void!!!
I’m glad for human life not being immortal, so one day you’ll be forgotten like a pile of dust
Nikocado will never be forgotten. Nikocado will forever be with us all.
I desperately want this match.
KND Father rolfstomps
Your favorite horror character? JOBS to Freddy Fazbear
Dogwalks the entirety of Jojo
True form Pennywise? Dream World Freddy Krueger? SCP shit?
SCP isn't horror
he always comes back
JJKeks . . . CSjerk offrs.. . .. . . Did we got jobs by Freddy Fazbear
>What CHADster CHADif would do to Doomguy in a rematch
Factual
DoomSISSIES...CHADster Chief is going to WRECK beyond REPAIR our boipussies!!!
>This is what Doomcucks want this for their rematch
in lore doomCHAD had sex
>Doomkeks think this wouldn't happen to their hero because of Doomslayer lore wank
The 2-0? Is inevitable.
It would be very funny
You're a dour guy.
They don't buy lore kratos, i don't see why they'd buy lore Doom Slayer
Xbox owns The Elder Scrolls. They stomp the shit out of the Sony franchises
Master CHADif is here? I genuflect.
KratosSCHOLARS???
>JOBtos
Master Chief victim
I'm pretty sure non-wanked Kratos beats Master Chief
>This is what Doomcucks want this for
Oh no no no no no Master VIRGINS...
Who WINS??
Jobs to PC
Whichever side has CHADtos
FREETHINKERtos is on noone's side but his own.
Nintendo with the games.
Kratos solos Microsoft.
Kratos would not fight them, he would forgive them and teach them how to become KINGS like himself. That is what a God of Hope would do.
Who can POSSIBLY beat a character wanked by the Swank himself?
"Him"
Thumbnail Anon
Simon. He already did it twice
Simon hasn’t even appeared on the show yet. The people patting each other on the back because of PODCAST episodes where everyone gets wanked to the extreme or just has stuff made up about them (aka people will just lie there) are delusional. At least wait for him to appear on the show before getting wienery. In fact, how come you never see literally any other charactergay blow their load from winning a podcast debate? Discussion about it dies down within like two hours of it happening, but Gurrengays will cling to them for months. It’s beyond head scratching.
Anon that was the point. Swan was wanking for characters against Simon when he showed up and he lost both times
>Swan was wanking for characters
You mean the thing he does for every podcast.
For every character he’s up against.
Every.
Single.
Time.
It’s literally not special in the slightest, but Gurren Laggays are treating it like the second coming of Christ that he used wank when that’s the entire point of the podcasts. You don’t see frickin’ Bengays cumming their brains out for nearly an entire year over beating Swan in the podcasts. You don’t see Dekugays doing it. You don’t see Yujibros doing it. The list goes on and on. Only Simongays cling to the podcasts like their lives depend on it.
What? What does that have to do with anything I said. Are you illiterate?
Again, that shit happens often. You still don’t see people clinging to it for months.
...Yes. Read the post that was being replied to dumbass
I made the post, moronbro. The “implication” was that whoever’s arguing on the podcast will pull shit out of thin air for their arguments. That’s it. Use that head of yours, it’ll do you good.
>What character can beat a character wanked by Swank
>Simon
>N-NOOOO
Just take the L Swan
My point was that Gurrengays have been clinging onto their podcast episodes since 2023, despite no one else caring enough to do so. Also you realize that Swan’s record on PC EPs is like a 1:8 ration in terms of W/L right.
The only one who clung for months here was Swan still being mad
KEKmongays let the wins get to their head because their used to seeing their hero get treated like shit.
Are you trying to imply they don't lie in their main show as well?
because Swan got genuinely pissed off over it which made it funny.
My hero can
>JOBtendo
Is currently being VICTIMIZED by CHADworld.
>less content than Ark
I'm already bored.
Considering Butcher has compound V that gives him super strength. Could he beat Punisher?
Punisher has too long a history of bullshit, he should fight Judge Dredd
Butcher is for Stain
Doesn't show Butcher make it a stomp for him now?
No, because Stain has (kinda) building level durability now.
That doesn't mean Stain can survive laser vision.
Is Kratos, under your bed? You better check.
which version of Kratos is it?
Grandmother Kratos from the Cookie Clicker dimension.
oh no bros
There's not enough space under my bed for Kratos fat ass to be there
im starting to see why these threads are pruned
One Piss bros? When's our episode?
What’re you talking about. OP’s had three episodes already and won two.
Lol, I forgot names persist through different boards.
Let's talk about good match ups, or at least interesting aspects of certain match ups.
For example pic. I think Naruto stomps using his Rikudo form, but loses using Varyon Mode. Weird considering the latter is supposed to have a higher ouput of power
>Big Three autism 2.0
>Good
>confirmed 95 IQ
Who's his best intellectual matchup?
Hassan Piker
Asura has an iq of 40
>Asura has an iq of 400
Fixed.
>no source
>making up shit
Pathetic. Kratos is canonically a genius who outsmarted Daedalus and is omniscient as part of his powers
Bruno said 95 would be a highball lil bro
>Bruno VeloAssQueso the mexican tumblr artist
LMAO I KNEW IT!!!
There is no need to be upset.
>While my hope fuels my every action, there exists a secret yearning deep within my heart for these vibrant, waxy treats. As I reach for a box of crayons, the hues of red, blue, and green beckon me, reminding me of the bloodshed on the battlefield.
Why is Kratos so fricking stupid, bros?
>Ruffy-San... Ichigo-San.. He was way too much for us huh? But we did good right? Saibaman-Sama really did a number on us... He may have made us look like total pussies... But we gave our best! *Sniff* *cries*
>They'll have to nerf Goku all the way down to OG Dragon Ball just so Luffy, Ichigo and Naruto have a chance
GOKU WAS FRICKING ROBBED!!!!!
Realistically how strong are Saibamen? Planet level?
I think Ichigo, Naruto, and Luffy, at their best should at least be capable of defeating one of them
Nah. Saibamen are Raditz tier, so realistically we could at best set them at Moon level.
Show me kratos's multiversal feats NOW.
Twittsr screenshots do NOT count
He broke multiversal ice that one time and opened that multiversal wooden chest
He beat up Zeus who beat up Kronos who beat up Ouranos
He also beat up the fates who control every timeline
>Kronos who beat up Ouranos
Are you sure? I thought Kronos cut off his dad's balls in a sneak attack. That doesn't sound like quite a fair fight to me.
>He also beat up the fates who control every timeline
The DMV controls automobiles in America, but if you beat up its head that doesn't mean you could beat all the cars in America in a fist fight.
Don't forget fighting the persians on their multiversal boats
they were canonically empowered by Hades, who is infinite in power
That was Alrik
Multiversal draugr
>Naruto's entire setting
Jackie Chun victim.
That bear? Is multiversal
Guts vs Geralt of Rivia (Witcher 3)
>good fight anon
Who would be a better fight for elric of melnibone, darth vader or luke? (Both eu)
Who beats Kratos harder?
Thor?
WW?
Seiya?
Doomslayer?
Seiya
They all crush him EZ
Either Thor or Wonder Woman. Doom Slayer is fodder
He crushes them all EZ
He gets crushed by all of them easily.
except Doomguy both wanked and unwanked
canonically shovel knight beat kratos
S-S-S-S-S-SHANTAESISTERS...! O-O-OUR RESPONSE?!
>O-O-OUR RESPONSE?!
no fighting, let’s just live happily
HE IS LOYAL TO SHIELD KNIGHT
tomboy knight girl
Also Isaac Clarke beat Zeus
Pit
Canonically his 95 IQ would lose him the battle against all of them
Asura.
HERCULES (from mythology)
Seiya (people dont use him enough)
Meteor fist ragdolling Kratos would be very, very satisfying.
>n n NOOOO PLEASE SEIYA HAVE MERCY
PEGASUS
>i i I’ll d DOO ANYTHING
METEOR
>*crying in a corner* NOOOOOO HAVE MERCYY
FIST!!!!
Only if they don't treat Seiya like a flashy novelty item, which they totally would. Most homosexuals, and I mean F A G G O T S who invoke Pegasus Seiya's good name only do so because of his perceived power level and not because they like the character or the series.
wasn't Superman given infinite dimensional stats in GVS3? how is Simon supposed to deal with infinite dimensions?
>wasn't Superman given infinite dimensional stats in GVS3?
No
No. Galactus was the one who got put at a gorillion dimensions while Superman/DC was 6D or something. Galactus VS Unicron comically made Marvelverse way beyond DCverse which just makes Phoenix losing to Raven and Apocalypse beating Black Adam even wackier given the matches were relatively close together
>Galactus got a fricktillion number of dimensions while DC is limited to 6D
>This will never be referenced again in the next season when they decide to have Marvel lose to DC
Not true, it will 100% be referenced again when a Marvel character is against anyone that is not from DC.
those who wield such a weapon follow a honorable moral code known as the code of shovelry
>
literally who was this fight even for?
Scrooge is for mr Krabs, Shovel Knight is for Shantae.
It was for Indie fans to have something to gnaw on until Frisk Vs Ness and 2B Vs V1 give them a win and loss respectively.
Can Ben 10 with the spicforce beat green lantern?
Yes, the aliens ben summons are all technically underaged so hal will be incapable of doing anything to them
>The same Omnitrix Ben has but with rule 63 autism
I think you already know the answer to that question.
>Alien dicky
Maybe hal has a point
Yes. Hispanics loved Ben 10
Instead of no-diffing Hal, he'll low-diff Hal.
kratos has no answer to john marston putting 6 Xs on his head
reminder even without his God form Liu Kang stomps all his matchups thanks to the official Brazilian MK4 comic
explain
Shinnok in the Brazilian MK4 comic TANKED this, Liu Kang in his dragon form one-shot him
i have literally never seen the original page. angloids took this brazilian comic book to wank mortal kombat. there is nothing that is too low for them
I mean, they already use test your might and hypothetical character weights (for the sake of juggling them in the air with attacks) to bump up their characters.
>gojo could tank it
>Hello! Green Lantern, best looking guardian of Sector 2814, at your service.
Who can defeat homer (forma poder politico)?
Mr Burns (not weak)
I want it
Nah, this is one of those matches I rather see happening canonically (written by Sandro himself) than made by DB. The amount of OOC needed for Ohma to kill a JK would be "Hal Jordan" levels of awful
Kill a what?
JK= Joshi Kousei (High School Girl)
Assuming this was Sandro at his best
>Hina, being the motherfricker she is, gets Ohma to fight her via threatening chemical attacks and shit.
>Shit happens
>Ohma wins, of course
>"The Ashura stopped the "Revolution""
Sorta. Karura attacked Ohma to test him before she made her "Proposal"
I could see sparring but definitely not an official ass whooping match. If everyone's in character some of the Kengan fighters would think less of Ohma if he had a match with a chick IMO
Probably. Unless said chick had a bioweapon stockpile and was literally blackmailing him
This is completely wrong, here is what would truly happen
>Hina, being the motherfricker she is, gets Ohma to fight her via threatening chemical attacks and shit.
>Shit happens
>"But in that exact moment Hina had a premonition..."
>Ohma wins, of course
>"The Ashura stopped the "Revolution""
I don't think Sandro would write an intergender match
He did it before, Anon
In Kengan?
I mean, not really. The only time Ohma’s thrown a punch at a chick was when he literally didn’t even know that she was a girl. And when he DID find out he didn’t even want to fight her anymore. Even his training with fem Kures consisted of just bullet dodging, while his training with male Kures was actual full on brawls. Hell, I don’t even think a female has gotten hit or even really hurt in Kengan.
Whos the girl on the left?
>nikogay’s schizophrenia has progressed to the point he unironically saved nikos uncensored butthole and has been posting it
>no one has done anything about it
Godzillabros… this is the degenerate standing against us
I think nikogay is a janny, it would explain how he gets away with blatant rule breaking so often
Why does he have such a massive triceratops femur up his ass about daikaiju?
Oddly specific comparison but I have no idea. He just started spamming niko at kaiju posts one day and never stopped
He’s just a homosexual (constantly saving pictures of overweight men’s buttholes) and needs everyone to know about his fetishes. Apparently he’s also in his thirties so there’s that.
I think it has something to do with the nuclear level seethe it produces. See
seething at a secondary about as hard as he can. Hilarious.
You really think this is “nuclear” seethe? You really are just a newbie aren’t you.
If speedy hates JK Rowling so much just have Percy jackson shred Harry and send him to the 0-2 club
holy shit
Left is the triceratops femur and right is an elephant femur btw
Good frick
EL HERMANOOOOO
MUCHAS GRACIAS
Does Thor ever get cucked in the comics?
No.
I forgot about Lobo having sexual intercourse with Superman's mother
Kratos is canonically the King of Kings
Kratos isn't Jesus
He meet Jesus and gave gifts to Jesus because he's the true King of Kings
Now now. They may look alike but that doesn't mean they're the same person
What's stopping Martian Manhunter from just turning intangible and mind raping Jiren?
Nothing, Jiren is a weak jobber.
anime vs anime battles are always shit
FTL Undertale
You already have FTL UT from Frisk dodging Flowey’s lasers, evading Gaster Blasters, and out speeding/tanking Hyper Goner blowing up a timeline. The blinds thing is unironically the dumbest argument for LS.
Both Flowey and Blaster thing is aim dodging, and Hyper Goner is Immeasurable speed feat, which is irrelevant for this discussion, plus this feat specifically makes Undertale even faster, since Napstablook is some of the more pathetic fighters compared to the likes of Undyne or Sans
Truth be told, I still think that even if it’s aim dodging it’s still ridiculously fast, and should realistically get them up to FTL speeds, or LS+ at the very least. Evading an entire blunt rotation of lasers up close should still put them in that range. And Napsta isn’t that weak or pathetic imo.
doesn't VSBW believe that the lasers in Undertale aren't actual lasers because they're made of magic and not light?
That would be a more reasonable assumption, since we are controlling Frisk's soul rather than Frisk's body.
Ummm sonic sisters? Do we lose to sans…
Consistently speed of sound fodder
Hey, you don’t need to speak about Sonic in such a rude manner.
Who was disrespected more, arkham batman or peter in spider man 2?
Arkham Batman
Now that the main outrage ended I think Batman was lucky to be killed the way they did.
Flash got his corpse pissed on
GL ended up nude and his ring taken
WW doesn't even have a boss fight, she just bullied the SS (a good thing actually) and died to supes
He was shot by Harley but at least they didn't make any jokes about his corpse and his contingency plans made him relevant for the plot
shoulda said he was probably on epstein's list anyway. cowards.
Is there any verse he doesn't solo at full planeswalker power?
He can't solo any
Daily reminder that Seth confirmed that Kratos would solo Elder (bo)Ring and the rest of the Souls shit. Before he was condemned to jail for hitting a 17 years old when he was 19. What a sick frick.
I mean yeah when both are and aren't wanked Kratos easily solos the setting unless you believe in Star level Dark Souls
I mean idk too much about dark souls, but elden ring is a bit op imo (I think a highballed kratos would do ok tho)
>Solos MHA
Congorilla vs Gorilla-Man. Somehow, it's shot up to over 700 views, which is huge for a channel as tiny as mine. DC Gorilla meme magic might in fact be real.
Bonus: A short video on how the plane fight scene from Raiders of the Lost Arc might have been inspired by an old Congo Bill story.
Those 'old superhero team' stuff reminds of that 'Six Forgotten Warriors' arc from Spider-Man TAS.
Kakashi is the shittiest fricking Sharingan user. I dunno why people like to debate him so much. He loses all his MUs.
Would Cinemaphile press this button?
Would you suck my dick?
If you're hot then sure
Mmm nah. Death Battle is shit, buy no reason to frick over Yates and Wolf. Plus it'd remove stuff like One Minute Melee and other fun fight animations.
>Martian Manhunter
Gets murked by Barbatos who can't even one shot the DC universe (prove me wrong)
>Jiren
Was stronger than SSB Goku who is multiversal
Jiren wins
>B-but the DC universe is bigger according to...
No, they're both infinite.
...in my dreams
A-Azathoth??? AUJGFJFKDNHL!
...known as reality.
Dragon Ball universe is tiny lmao and Barbatos > Mandrakk
Only Superman and Kratos and The Batman who Laughs are infinite, Gocuck is rocky cliffside level
>pic that doesn't prove his point
Kek. moron.
>pic is of a globe, all features within defined within a clearly finite space
Nah, DB universe is TINY. Not even the size of the irl solar system
>headcanon babble
Are you going to bring up your reddit post again? Please, make my day.
anyone ever noticed how small the dragon ball sun is? Shit's like Mars-sized
Actually, it is universal.
the known universe in dragon ball is smaller than a regular solar system, as shown here
It's infinite actually.
>twitter troon screenshot
that's also a blatant mistranslation, Daizenshuu 7 and the other Daizenshuu guidebooks all refer to there being only 4 galaxies (North, South, East, and West)
Nope. Herms translated correctly. Even the Super SPAnga says it.
>this says Snake Way is 1 million kilometres long
>the irl sun is 149 million killometres away
This just proves it further, the Dragon Ball universe is tiny as frick
>thinking that Snake way takes the most of afterlife
>ignoring that afterlife is infinite in size
>same as living world
Kekaroooooo!!! Keep spouting your headcanon. Bring up your namek reddit post. You already got clowned on.
it's not infinite in size if it all takes place within a finite globe, and can be traversed at all by only 1 million kilometres
>more headcanon babble
Post offical soruces, like I did. Otherwise, your headcanon is useless.
Sources*
like you did...where you were unable to crop out that Snake Way is only 1 million kilometres. Making the entire globe smaller than a solar system.
>still no offical source
>more headcanon babble
read the story you yourself are a fanboy of, please, not just vsbattle mistranslations. Chapter 205: 'a warrior in hell', it's 1 million miles.
>the sun is bigger than most of the universe
Dragon SMALL...
WTF is this moron even saying?
>OG DB
Moon buster
>Saiyan arc
Planet buster
>Namek arc
Star buster
>Cell arc
Solar System buster
>Buu arc
Galaxy buster
>BoG arc
Universe buster
>RoF arc
Multiverse buster
>U6 arc
4D/ timeline buster
>Goku Black arc
Infinite 4D buster
>ToP
Infinite 5D buster
Why infinite 5d? It's because the Infinite World of Void is the place that holds the universes and is unaffected by time. The only thing that can hold a dimension (space + time = 4D) is a higher dimension. Hence why Goku was shaking an infinite 5D realm. This means that Goku would have been shaking Mxy's entire dimension if he was in the DCverse (which Superman, Mxy, Mandrakk or Perpetua can't even do).
Goku and Jiren would STOMP the DCfighters
I like how NOBODY even DARED to debunk this. Shows you how PUSSY DCgays really are
I'm not gonna address it because it's such a fundamental ignorance of reality it would be impossible to explain that a place not having time does not make it 5d. Need I list every space in DC that is unaffected by time? Must we then pretend these are 5d spaces despite existing in a 3d world?
Surely not, we DCbros are far too intelligent and distinguished to demean our own intelligence so desperately for fake vsbattle points.
>a place not having time does not make it 5d
>Must we then pretend these are 5d spaces despite existing in a 3d world?
Have you really sunk so low that you have to strawman?
The infinite World of Void is the space the universes (which are 4D) are LOCATED IN.
It the World of Void was affected by time then we would have been talking about a Metaverse or higher.
But that's canonically not the case.
Cope.
ANOTHER comment they're FLEEING from
DBScholars are RIPPING the DCgays a new one
The world of void is not even infinite though
Show me where they said that
Nowhere lmao, not once has it been stated to be infinite.
>elipsb***h dicksucking
Frick. We need Kazuya in Death Battle. Who is his best matchup? Yujiro seems pretty good.
Akuma
Didn't weakened Kazuya canonically survived/killed Akuma considering that Kazuya is back in Tekken 8?
Yujiro is probably the most fun
KINO.
They can't even pull the "has no 3D model" bullshit because Yujiro has a 3D model
Someone already ripped it too, it's the first result for "yujiro hanma 3d model" on google
>elips
What about Jiren vs Draxx the Destroyer?
>seething at GODllipsisKINGS
>universe size arguments again
why
It's just some dude from reddit that got exposed 4 months ago. I guess he thought people forgot about him.
Because Death Battle started it with Ben 10 vs Hal.
and
who cares
size arguments are worthless bores
it isn't even about the characters anymore
If King Kai's planet is further out than the sun, but only 1 million kilometres away, then that also proves how tiny the dragon ball universe is since the irl sun's diameter is 1.4 kilometres.
You moron. Then why did he need to DIE to get there? Why can't everybody take a spaceship? They did to reach Namek which is on the other aisw od the universe, right?
King Kai's planet is in the afterlife which is another dimension entirely
>reddit out of nowhere
dragonball gays tend to hang out there among their own ilk
Do I need to go archives and find the same thread you got exposed?
>NOOOOO MY UNIVERSE IS TWENTY GORILLION MILES BIG!!!!!
>WELL MINE IS A BAZILLION TIMES THAT!!!!!!!!
Does anyone actually enjoy debating at this level?
It's DCgays last straw. Can you see how they're not daring to debate destroying entire timelines and higher dimensions? It's because they know they're outmatched
No. The second you get into universe sizes when both settings spout the word "infinite" as an adjective constantly it just comes down to which setting/character you like more. Yeah yeah different infinite sizes in math and all that, but none of them ever touch that shit and its just people trying to push that for the side they want. Nearly all writers are just using words and numbers that sound cool and dont really care for what they actually mean
There's no point in engaging in debates for universal characters and up. It's literally "whoever the writer wants to win".
I do. Because during some occasions it cancels out and then ends up relying on other aspects like speed, durability, stamina, hax, abilities, etc.
Which is part of the reason why I like Shulk Vs Sora [spoiler]
>my universe is bigger than yours
do powergays really?
All this and the DC universe is still bigger
Ahem... Infinite timelines and infinite 5D
Cope.
>Ahem... Infinite [HEADCANON] and infinite [HEADCANON]
Yep
Why does this moron think that Snake way is the center of the afterlife? It can literally be seen that it stretches far beyond.
>Goku takes 2 days to cross 1 million kilometres
>not even one 50 thousandth the speed of light
Why are dragon ball cucks so pathetic?
Superman would forgive them and tell them to be better
(after easily beating Gocuck's wimpy beta ass yet again)
Deathbattle used that exact stat and screwed up the calculation. You can see that in this pic, but did you know that if we correct it to use the correct stats that Goku would have been faster?
I'm not shitting you. I will prove it.
They halved Goku's speed in SS1 instead of multipliying it by 50. You see that right? And then they multiplied that by 2 for SS2 and that by 4 for SS3 and that by 10 for SS4.
Which merans that Goku is 50x faster according to their stats.
Now lets see what they did for Supes in the next image
Why the frick did they halve it?
I think that they did it on purpose to farm drama for clicks. Haven't you noticed that Goku vs Superman are the only battles in which they give entire lectures about how it does not really matter how strong Superman is, because he would always win?
They need to breakdown it down for the illiterate Goku fans
Nah, it's just pure cope and an attempt to deflect from their bias.
They said that he fought Wonder Woman at 9 billion km per hour, said that he could go faster and ended with this image.
17 billion km per hour which means that Goku, with the corrected stats (50x2.5) has a speed of 125 billion km per hours meaning that he is over 10 times faster than Superman using their own criteria.
Goku speedblitzes Supes. Bro, it would be no challenge
except Superman broke the bonds of infinity and has infinite speed
Sorry broseph Goku ain't even light speed while Superchad is infinite
Not the version of Superman they used for the Death Battle.
anon even Goku says in the end of Super that SS1 is slower than base form
Do you even peruse your own shit series?
1. The aforementioned calcs were made long before Super was a concept
2. Prove it, because I can't remember that statement
If you actually watched it, you'd know Wiz said that Base Goku's speed was 11,000 kilometers per hour because of the snake way thing. They didn't put Base Goku's speed in SSJ2 to to lowball him, they accidentally put SSJ2 Goku's speed in his base form.
Gokubros proving they can't math yet again.
>hey accidentally put SSJ2 Goku's speed in his base form.
And they accidentally CHOSE not to correct it.
DCgays are so desperate for a win that they swallow up any excuse
Why would they correct it? The rest of the math is still accurate, it's literally a typo.
You actually can't math, can you Gokubro? I was only half joking when I claimed that but...
>The rest of the math is still accurate
Don't ever come near my taxes. That's all I''ll say. Enjoy your (you)
>Gocuck still can't math
what did you expect from beaners?
They actually tried to multiply off the typo thinking 64,000,000 (SS2) was the base, lmao. Talk about desperate
What the frick
>Goku is asian
>Superman is israeli
YUPPAROOOOOO!!
Prove that the calcs are right. Shouldn't be hard so I'll wait
You could just...actually watch it and follow along what they say, but sure.
11,000km/h from Snake Way. Adjusted for gravity makes it 1100. x 586 makes it 644600
x 50 gives you the SS1 result of 32,230,000
This is why you should stay in math class Gokusisters
SuperSCHOLARS...forgive the gokubros, not everyone can have the equivalent brainpower of our elementary school mathematics
Nice typo, moron
typo that didn't affect the math, since SS1 is correctly calculated from base Snake Way
but then you tried to use the typo to miscalculate Goku's speed as being SS2 in base. Probably because you're too stupid to do basic math, possibly because you're just that desperate for internet upvotes
>SS1 is correctly calculated from base Snake Way
Unholy cope, Joker. You did they same thing they did, as expected from DCtards
>internet upvotes
You need to go back
>Gokubitches literally live in a delusional fantasy world made of cope
Superman wouldn't laugh at them, he'd feel sadness for their desperation and try to bring them back to reality
>Gocuck
Oh no Superbros..... Gohan already set his mission in the name......and Lois is alone........
Kratos forgives you, anon
SAVE US, KINGTOS!!!
Superman doesn't have a single universal feat, pro tip you can't prove me wrong
Superman is stated to be Infinite
Dragon Ball universe is finite
Superman blinks and dragon ball universe is destroyed and chichi impregnated by the kryptonian shockwave
>Infinite
At jobbing to characters that are actually some what universal? Breaking the bonds of infinity isn't universal, lifting a infinite mass book isn't universal, Goku shaking his universe by fighting and continously growing stronger after that? Universal feat, Superman has never once speed blitzed anybody anyways besides fricking batman
What the frick is wrong with Kyle's mouth
>breakdown it down
And it called Goku fans illiterate baka
>he can't breakdown it down
If Reverse Flash beats Black Goku does that mean Flash beats Normal Goku?
Realistically most of the top dogs in the JL would beat Goku
Superman: Beats him
WW: Beats him
Batman: Gets beaten against him
GL: Beats him
Flash: Beats him
Martian Manhunter: Likely gets beaten but idk anything about him so maybe he also wins
Aquaman: gets beaten against him
Then you have most of the less popular members, like Green Arrow or Atom, most of which lose against Goku with the exception of heroes like Dr. Fate, Zatanna, or Raven.
>Superman: Beats him
>Martian Manhunter: Likely gets beaten
You absolute fricking moron. Martian Manhunter makes Superman shit his pants
I really don't know much about him, that's why I said there's a chance he actually wins
Maybe if you give Goku his fanfiction powers from Heroes, canon Goku isn't beating DC's heavy hitters (he could beat some of Marvel's top dogs though)
>canon Goku isn't beating DC's heavy hitters
NTA, but what are you basing that on?
Capeshit BS is too much for him. All of those characters win by default the experience/intelligence category just because of their extensive history. And thanks to that they all scale to each other (WW scales to superman, GL scales to superman, Batman's Smarts make statements to wank almost all the JL, MM scales to superman, superman scales to flash, etc)
While this is just basic shit it makes harder and harder for anyone to argue in favor of Goku because then you can pull the high ends for each of them to keep wanking further and further (GL effortless time travel and reality warping shenanigans + some speed feat that is absurd, Superman who now has like thousands of bullshit powers that make him almost untouchable, Flash being Flash, WW Having Bullshit magics and some weird chain scaling that makes her potentially the most busted of the group, etc)
For Goku to win he needs to have the stat advantage, because he is outclassed by all of them in intelligence and experience, and you could argue he has the power advantage using dimensional scaling, but then you enter the rabbit hole of DC's own dimensional scaling.
Then we have speed, and most of the JL has better speed feats than Goku (Superman can reach the end of the universe in seconds, WW moving across the universe blocking some shit from a god or something, GL's traveling the universe in seconds, flash being flash) even if Goku has a power advantage the JL speed feats are better than Goku's speed feats (even without universal bs)
And the thing that seals the deal is the fact that Goku needs oxygen to survive... Meaning he can't use his full universe busting power unless he blows the planet and dies in space without air.
they don't scale like that
the issue is that comicbookt characters are being scaled in a way that hyperinflate their stats. Made worse by the fact that anti feats are completely ignored and to consistency doesn't matter. Writers have been saying for decades. They don't write comics with power scaling. A mind so already choosing the powerscale them. will give you results that are guaranteed to be one hundred percent unintended. As a result present any Of these death battle or battle board stats and calculations to anyone who works at these Comic book companies and don't look at you like you're insane.
>All of those characters win by default the experience/intelligence category just because of their extensive history
It's an arbitrary category, but none of those characters have trained for decades let alone under literal Gods. Goku wins
>But look at their new feats
None of those feats are infinite 5th dimensional, which Goku is as seen here
>he needs to have the stat advantage
Or he can just be stated to be stronger than Infinite Zamasu who had the power to destroy Infinite Timelines (infinite 4D)
>Then we have speed
Speed is time over distance. Goku has canonically surpassed time meaning that he can move at zero time. Even the Flash by moving at an attosecond requires time and is thus slower than Goku.
Anything else?
>It's an arbitrary category
It is not. It means whatever strategy Goku tries to use will blow up in his face.
>but none of those characters have trained for decades
All of them have, some like Superman and WW have trained for a lot more. Even batman has better Martial arts experience Than Goku...
>None of those feats are infinite 5th dimensional
Speak like a human, I don't care about that VSBW yapping.
And again if you want to enter dimensional wank DC has more of it...
>Or he can just be stated to be stronger than Infinite Zamasu who had the power to destroy Infinite
Wank, but sadly DC's top gods have even more Wank (Superman outputing enough energy to destroy the DB universe 20 times over, existing outside time and space, screaming loud enough to destroy the multiverse etc. WW fodderizing Batkeks who is way above anything shown in DB, Flash just existing, GL tanking a literal retcon, etc)
>Goku has canonically surpassed time meaning that he can move at zero time.
Most JL members are still quantifiable faster than him, Goku only surpassed a Hax that stopped time. Also he isn't even near the level of speed flash has.
What are your argument? Really what's your point?
Even if GL has difficulty traveling through time he still surpasses Goku's speed durability, and maybe even in AP, also he is extremely more seasoned in battle and has the tools to outsmart Goku 100 times before he lands a killing blow
Superman didn't "scream loud enough to destroy the multiverse". Consider reading stories featuring the characters you're talking about.
Considering DBSpics like to use wonky math to say Goku is totally multiversal even when he has never shown any true multiversal feat on his own (all this wank coming from stupid shit like "SS3 has a power booster of 3000 so SS blue must be 53838263386282 times stronger enough to wipe existence with a fart") then is fair game to say Superman's 10000000000 (I don't remember how many ceros it had) decibel scream (something calculated to be enough to destroy the universe) should be considered legit.
>UHHHH BUT THE OTHER GUYS
Irrelevant. And the "scream" you're thinking about is probably CYBORG outputting a million decibels.
my argument is-sorry, """are""" that the claims you made are erroneous
>Superman outputting enough energy to destroy the DB verse 20 times over
When?
>existing outside time and space
When?
>screaming loud enough to destroy the multiverse
This has literally never happened.
>WW fodderizing Batkeks who is way above anything shown in DB
While she had an external amp.
>Flash just existing
And?
>GL tanking a literal retcon
Being unaffected by the event retcons is a special abstract property of the rings, not a durability feat.
What is it with the most fervent DCgays not reading comics or knowing what they're talking about?
>When?
Multiple times during the multiple crisis events
>When?
Kryptonians can freely time travel and Clark himself can move outside space and time
>This has literally never happened
I am just using the same logic DBSpics use. Golden Age supes scream had enough potency to break a universe.
>While she had an external amp
Still a feat of her own
>And?
Zoom could counter the destruction of the multiverse with his vibrations, and other lesser speedsters could generate the same force just by running, Flash would obliterate Goku even with Infinite zamasu Scaling
>CYBORG outputting a million decibels
No, Golden Age superman has a screaming feat that surpasses that.
Also you better start posting arguments in favor of Goku, because by focusing only on complaining about other's arguments you show how Canon Goku has no true feats than can equal those of the JL
>Multiple times during the multiple crisis events
Scans.
>Kryptonians can freely time travel and Clark himself can move outside space and time
They literally can't.
>I am just using the same logic DBSpics use. Golden Age supes scream had enough potency to break a universe.
Other people wanking isn't an excuse for you to wank.
>Still a feat of her own
No, because she can't go golden by herself.
>0 arguments in favor of Goku Vs the JL
I won't keep wasting my time with you.
Well this is an argument about Goku Vs the justice league. I don't care about discussing the JLs individual powers, I care about how they compare with Goku.
i don't care about goku, but i care about comics, and i'm not about to let someone go around wanking like this
> Also he isn't even near the level of speed flash has.
Does he really have to be consider the metric fricks ton of slower DC characters that successfully tag and reacted to both Flash,GL and Superman? *cough*Batman Catwoman Death stoke Prometheus*cough*
If you want to go down that path then Goku ends up way worse.
The "Kii control" meme shows that without said Kii Goku's physical stats are far bellow even the likes of Aquaman.
Characters like Batman (who's armors can drain said energy and are fast enough to tag Goku and smart enough to trick him) could de power him until his durability is that of a above average human.
Also under the same "Kii control" excuse we can determine that Goku has a hard cap of the amount of power he can launch at someone. If he uses a planet level attack for example he would end up destroying earth killing himself in the process for the lack of oxygen.
>Batman
>Tagging Goku
and Superman's physical stats are even lower without sun power
your point?
>GL effortless time travel
Is canonically harder now.
>and some ridiculous speed feat
If you mean the ""traveling the universe"" one, it isn't to anyone literate enough to understand what a picture book for children is saying.
>Superman has like thousands of bullshit powers
Silver Age had a wide variety, but most weren't all that. The rest tend to have a limited selection, at least as far as battle applicable powers go.
>Flash being Flash
This isn't a good thing.
>WW Having Bullshit magics and some weird chain scaling that makes her potentially the most busted of the group
I genuinely have no idea what you're even talking about.
Probably the fact the highest character that Dragon Ball even has is still bound by time and there are beings in DC who exist across every timeline and universe within the greater multiverse.
I still can't believe they wasted J'onn on fricking Silver Surfer of all people, we could have had the fight in the OP and we got that dreck, J'onn's not even Surfer's best opponent from DC they didn't go with his actual crossover in Kyle Rayner or his actual counterpart in William Walker/Black Racer or the popular matchup in Captain Atom or the interesting contrasts of Lobo
nope, Goku vicitimizes the entire league
Holy shit we are so back. I missed this sort of peak vitriol between DC and Dragon Ball.
Reminder Barbatos is 6D and Superman ONEPUNCHED him...
It's over.
Barbatos
>Needs fighters across the entire Dasrk Multiverse to fight for him
Justice League
>Needs Xth metal power ups to defeat a non-universe buster
>WW defeats him in the end
Jobber League bros...
>he's unleashing his fanart folder
Superman? Infinite.
Kratos? Infinite.
The Batman who Laughs? Infinite.
Gokuck? tree level.
The infinite you're referring to is relative to the universe.
Goku can literally destroy Infinite Zamasu, a being who had merged with INFINITE timelines
Infinite 4D > Infinite Multiverse > Infinite Universe (you are here)
>fanfiction headcanon
lmao nah
Goku in actual canon gets destroyed by tree level Granolah
statements
>H-h-headcanon
Cry me a river, Timbergay
>SPAnga
might as well use cuck porn comics
KINGtos shall save you. But you must accept his light.
>SuperBITCHES still have no answer
Yup.
>BROWNperman gays are getting upitty
>Goku vs Superman is still being debated
The OPUS of Battleboarding...
"Debated" is a strong word there when we already know the outcome
Another Kratos sweep.
....with his mop, across the floors of the halls
K, b, c.
Welcome to another episode of DCgays using intra-universal feats to scale against a character with multiple higher dimensional feats.
Their universe is just really really big even tho all universes are theoretically infinite
The size of a universe goes out of the window when we're talking about infinite dimensions
>the KEK of void
Forgotten and irrelevant.
>OPUS Games Arena
Soulful, beautiful, iconic.