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Kars from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure vs Meruem from Hunter X Hunter
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can i get the sauce on that pic of kars?
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/8e80bn
Hell yeah, thanks a ton, man! Really appreciate it!
Though just out of curiosity, who do you think takes the match between Kars and Meruem? I'm pretty sure Kars, especially if we give him Ultimate Kars, stomps pretty soundly, but I don't know enough about HxH to confirm.
I'm in the same boat, I don't know enough about HxH to comment, though I'm very knowledgeable with JoJo. Based off the sparse things I know of Meruem, there's several questions that are up in the air. Can Meruem learn Hamon by seeing Kars perform it? And vice versa, can Kars learn Nen by watching Meruem? I kinda want to side with Kars a little more due to him having complete control over his biology down to a cellular level, so you could argue he could just emulate Meruem's physiology. If he does master Nen, it's possible it'd be even stronger than Meruem's since his body would perfect Nen usage just like with Hamon. Kars does have an IQ of 400, but Meruem has better tactile showings (he literally makes an effort to beat world champions at strategy games in exchange for their lives), plus Kars' biggest hubris is his ego and superiority.
>but Meruem can just eat Kars
Likewise, Kars can eat Meruem just by making physical contact with him as Santana and Wammu have displayed. Paired with Ultimate Kars insane regen, I don't see it being a winning factor for Meruem.
I know post-Rose Meruem has like some mountain busting blast or something and has survived a miniature nuke, but Kars' has survived being on an erupting volcano with enough force to send him into space, plus his hamon is stated to be ~100x stronger than that of Joseph's (and his could just turn off people's brains and hearts) and was so hot it was melting/evaporating his flesh near instantly. But like I said, I this point I don't really know enough of HxH to make direct comparisons. Even the latter Meruem stuff was all off-hand that I kinda remember seeing.
Yeah, I reached about the same conclusion. Ultimately, Kars is just too damn OP, between all the wacky shit the Pillar Men are capable of regenerating from with no real issue to the hyper-adaptivity that Kars displays, I just don't really see how Meruem would be able to keep up. I'll probably concede that Meruem beats Kars in regards to sheer strength, more than likely, but I haven't really seen anything from HxH that would suggest he has any effective way to put down Kars for good, meanwhile Kars would feasibly just need to touch him for an extended period of time to start devouring him and eventually put him down that way. I'm also reasonably sure Kars has the speed advantage, so being able to zip around any of Meruem's more worrisome attacks probably wouldn't be an issue for him.
That said, speaking of them both eating each other, I think it'd be really cool if this ever got a fight animation if THAT was how Kars won: Meruem eats him as a last ditch effort to absorb his power, just for Kars to either burst out of his body or devour him from the inside.
I don't know, I just think that'd be cool.
>Kars' has survived being on an erupting volcano with enough force to send him into space
Does Kars unironically just tank that Meruem nuke
It is a real possibility
Yes, and even if he didn't he still wins via hax because he can manipulate every cell in his body and transform it into anything he needs.
Kars doesn scale to the volcano otherwise he should've been able to break or stop this rock. And he was helpless against it.
I'm saying he didn't die to it, anon. You're still getting hit by the force of an erupting volcano. Kars was even able to get up and fly faster than the rock itself, only getting stopped when other faster-flying debris smashed into his body
By than the rock had lost most of its kinetic energy. And way to devalue your point. Yeah, he was physically injured by other debris.
The dude only has cell regeneration, Meruem can deal with that just fine. If there's nothing to regenerate from, you die.
>By than the rock had lost most of its kinetic energy
Anon, if you're on a volcano when it fricking explodes, you're still getting hit with its kinetic energy, especially when it's so much it sends you into space. Just because there's a single building between myself and a nuke doesn't mean I wouldn't get totally pulverized by the sheer force of the blast
That's a fricking outlier, he got his body perfurated by those smaller rocks.
And, oh by the way, we're taking everything to cobtextt? Shall we give Meruem star level then? I think we shall.
*out of context
Fricking phone.
>who do you think takes the match between Kars and Meruem?
If Meruem touches Kars, Kars body automatically digests him
Couldnt nen technically counter that. Besides he seems pretty fast and strong enough for him not to be affected by that
Actually, Meruem could also eat Kars.
>Merurm eats a part of Kars
>That chunk of flesh uses Hamon to melt it's way out
Yeah but no, Hamon and Nen are pretty much the same thing. Meruem eats Nen.
A. no it's not, it's fundamentally different
B. He can always just do something else like have it release every known fatal disease at once.
Everything hamon can do (almost nothing lol) Nen can also do, but better. And Meruem has the strongest Nen in all of HxH.
Doesn't matter, Hamon is hot enough to melt flesh and can't be absorbed. Meruem is getting a hole in his stomach.
First of all, If you can't debunk me then you can't move onto a different point. There's nothing preventing them from equallizing nenn to hamon, they've did it before to other energy systems.
Second? Meruem survived a fricking nuke point blank. good luck finding a feat from part 2 that outmatches that.
Third, Meruem would just regenerate.
I win, bye bye
>First of all, If you can't debunk me then you can't move onto a different point.
Says the guy who went from 'Nen and Hamon are the same' to 'UHHH WELL NEN IS BETTER SO NYUH!'
>Second? Meruem survived a fricking nuke point blank
The radiation ended up killing him, meaning his insides are clearly vulnerable.
>Third, Meruem would just regenerate.
Is that why he's dead?
I give up. You need to take a bath, your starting to smell.
I’m pretty sure Meruem wins every part of the stat triangle. I don’t think Kars could overpower Netero’s Bodhisattva and Meruem needed to be hit like thousands of times by it just to start aching
That thing triggers my phobia to centipedes.
My only objection to that is that Meruem eats traditionally through his mouth while Kars only needs to make physical contact, and Pillar Men do so ridiculously fast. Wammu just bumped into a guy and took away half his body, or when he drank 2 dozen guys at once. I also side with Kars have actual regen while Meruem needed to be healed by Pitou. Additionally like
said, any part that comes from Kars' body he can still manipulate to do what he wants automatically, like when he shoots out razor feathers that turn into piranha and giant squid tentacles, or when he turned his hand into a squirrel
They'll do something stupid like use novel kars feats and it wont even be a fight
Jinping vs Putin
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Costume: King Kong
Coop (Megas XLR) and Lance (SBT) vs Simon (Gurren Lagann) and Shinji (Evangelion)
Dress up as Popeye
BBC Sherlock vs CBS Sherlock
Dress up as Gamera
Just want to ask, how good do you think my thumbnails are?
I hope Capcom brings back Wesker as a computer virus so that this matchup could make more sense. Also the fact that your thumbnail has two Weskers but three Smiths is bothering me.
Not bad, the Wesker/Smith one has a good basis. The biggest issue I've seen with custom thumbnails is composition and sizing issues. For example, the Optimus pic would be a little better if he was turned a bit more to the right to better mirror the Gurren Lagann. Additionally (and this one can be frequent due to different art styles) GL's body is much larger than Optimus' even though their heads are roughly the same, so sometimes it needs a little bit of compromise to make it look good overall. And like
said, you want mirroring to be even, so like numbers with like.
Alright, thanks.
Costume: The Riddler
TN: Mei (overwatch) vs Pyro (tf2)
Thanks dude
donkey kong
Abeloth vs Kaguya Otsutsuki
Denji vs Malum Caedo
Kinda wish there was more Caedo art for this
computer just decided to not link pic
Depressed TNAnon
Lol thank you, DrawAnon
But also. . . .
>personally, more of a bayo and jinx guy
>Best performing female in Death Battle and one of the worst performing ones.
Ironic.
Speaking of views, I feel that the only option they have now when it comes to female characters is 2B and even that was kind of wasted, by having Raiden die vs... I don't even remember his opponent's name or what game franchise he was forced to fight in that shill episode.
People complain all the time about Ryuko getting wasted, and well, yeah. It was a consolation prize and easy W for Shadow, for the sake of calming his fans.
Does 2B have any better matchups? I know they did that Sasuke looking guy from Final Fantasy in DBZ, but I don't see it.
MGR Raiden was a big choice for her, but there's also Alita
>there's also Alita
shut the frick up, you really have no idea what you are talking about
alita/gally is too broken for 2B
I didn't say it was good, just that it was there. I know how utterly bullshit Alita is, anon. I'd much rather have 2B fight Raiden or even Noctis
Noctis is even more broken
Tubby has 0 good matchups I think
V1 from Ultrakill perhaps?
V1 would turbo rape her
Other way around. At best he’s only really slightly faster, but the second the transport unit comes out then it’s game over. He’s completely outclassed by that thing.
>Speaking of views, I feel that the only option they have now when it comes to female characters is 2B and even that was kind of wasted, by having Raiden die vs... I don't even remember his opponent's name or what game franchise he was forced to fight in that shill episode.
Ahhh, the sweet Redditvengence tears, they still flow so freely.
>Cole should've fought Commander Shepard because you have good and evil choices in both games
Same amount of connections. I don't even know what they consider good fights anymore tbh
What are the odds ben wanted cole vs electro and alex vs carnage instead? The team loves to just do marvel feed matches instead of actually having cool matchups with new franchises. Also they're massive sois sop when brainstorming the first thing to ever come to mind to them is marvel.
>alex vs carnage
definitely could have come up at some point
>cole vs electro
really doubtful, I imagine they want someone like Livewire for Electro
But Cole destroys Electro and Carnage was actually weaker than Alex based on their stats for both him AND Venom.
>They're finally doing another Transformer
>It's Megatron
Hey, maybe I can finally give a shit about this how aga-
>They're doing IDW Megs' backstory
>Aaaaand they're pitting him against a Dragon Ball character
Never mind.
Holy Frick, bros! Reed Richards is capable of throwing UNIVERSES
Anon that's Frank
never said reed MADE them
If Plasma Peashooter taught me anything it's that those were fully fledges universes of infinite mass
Wait, does Plasma Peashooter mean everything in PvZ has an argument for being scaled to Universal levels of damage and durability?
Shazam is for Seiya/Koga, leme make a thumbnail for it actually
I mean they'll basically stop DBZ indefinitely after this since Jiren and Piccolo lost their only MU and Gohan vs Mark is a stomp, so hopefully and most likely Galactus vs Unicron next season but yea Frieza FTW
>Jiren
Artocitus or Asura I guess.
>Piccolo
Knuckles is literally right there.
>but it’s Sonic shi-
You either get Knuckles or you get nothing at all.
For the love of god just fricking let us have Asura vs Kratos to make the god of war gays seethe,
Jiren is better for Sentry anyways
>Piccolo
>Knuckles is literally right there.
They asspulled Archie so much after Trunks vs Silver and did so much bullshit that wasn't true like Archie Silver having super form, they ruined it, ill pass on Sonic shit, its either DBZ winning or no MU, no point/fun on watching my fav character die,
Vegeta vs Thor and Goku vs Superman is a huge example
Archie Knuckles doesn’t have a super form comparable to Super Sonic in terms of AP, hax, or general abilities so it’s fine. At best he’ll only be faster.
>Asura vs Kratos
I’d rather watch paint dry. Kratos vs Dante is better, the only people who actually want him to fight Asura are AW fans because “something something humbling something something lore”
Lol because they actually have connections and are God killers to hate people who fricked with their kid/family?? why the frick are people just running away from legit connection fights??
We went from hardline shit like Thanos vs Darkseid to Vegeta vs Thor where both connections were are so weak,
Dante and Kratos also have connections (Demi-humans that slayed Gods/Demons as young men before mellowing out as older parental figures), a long standing rivalry, massive movesets that work well against each other, and cool super forms. Asura vs Kratos is literally baby’s first fraudcheck, and I have no idea why you’d want to use the lesser Capcom action game character to go against Kratos.
Also, I have to ask, have you ever played GOW, DMC, OR AW?
I grew with Xbox so no about GOW but I did I played the DMC demos,
Would love to buy more consoles and games but so much shit keeps fricking me over in life and my Wallet keeps zeroing out
>the demos
Yeah I figured as much. Asura’s best MU’s are against other flashy, cosmic people. Kratos and Dante are effectively made for one another, what with the whole God vs Demon thing going on. Also just get a PC and pirate shit, that’s what everyone does these days.
>moveset is only a fraction as large as Dantes’ or Spawns
>powers aren’t even remotely as strong as Asuras’
How DID this matchup even come to be? Was it seriously just that one meme? Even if you exclude lore, the GST can be torn apart with force that’s equal to GOW Kratos’ chasm creation feat, and without it Pit just gets raped.
no shut the frick up Kratos gets gapped
Gapped? Honestly I’d say that Kratos is more of an Old Navy kinda guy. No but seriously, Pits’ biggest weapon got completely destroyed by Hades clapping too hard, it’s not that good outside of his own verse.
both of their strongest feats are defeating Hades, thus they are equal in raw strength
>For the love of god just fricking let us have Asura vs Kratos
Agreed. We need it for the asuragay mass suicide.
Kratos is boring as shit and his feats are unimpactable and uncinematic, we need a GOWgay Heaven's Gate 2.0,
Kratos will get beaten so bad it won't be close but the fight has so much connections
Yes the web show that has autists crying all the time about lore scaling is going to fraudcheck Kratos. Get real.
gee why do you guys hate Kratos so much? did he frick all your mothers or something?
my mother was the b***h he jammed into a gear, i'll have you know.
Ladies and gentlemen, the compromise is obvious: Kratos has an opponent suitable for him in all aspects.
Nah, Pit is for Firebrand, and Kratos is for frickin homosexuals.
not until they actually finish Uprising
>I'M GREEK homie, SHOW ME YOUR BUTTHOOLLLEE
Either of them will come back for Zagreus
Doesn't pit just kills kratos from the skies with his several ranged weapons?
No, since Kratos also has access to long range weapons and a shield that’d protect him from the majority of Pits’ attacks save for the cannon.
Besides, despite having wings, he loves to get close and personal in a battle, which would frick him over since Kratos has access to transmutation and status effect items like Medusa’s head and his axe.
power of flight only lasts 5 minutes and requires outside help
So I looked into it. I was wondering what bullshit feat or line of text could give megatron something to fight frieza and there really isnt anything.
It seems that the general consensis is that megatron is star level at most BUT if you REALLY wanted to stretch it he is universal because of a few lines text... comparing that to the stats they gave vegeta its a total stomp for frieza. I even asked some big time transformers nerds and vswiki(wank central) and none would say anything more then moon level
What the hell is this match up?
it's a controversy fight
Megatron is going to win, no matter what
And it's only to drive up views with how wrong it is
>What the hell is this match up?
An absolute load of nothing.
the preview was clear enough this will just be a stomp that everyone can see comming from over a mile away
People here keep mentioning JP stuff for Transformers that would make Megatron multiversal and easily stomp Frieza.
yeah pretty much
Nah I dont think they'll take one of his JG1 variant, they didn't alluded to that in his preview vid
But if they have to... look no other than Super Megatron (or the various alias & form he took in it, Ultra Megatron, Ultra Megatron Omega, Ultra Megatron Omega: Perfect Form from the recent 2020 Generations Selects, where he survives being sliced in half (so right through the spark), shot through the torso a pointblank by a combiner's rifle & being decapitated (next page after that he took his head like if was nothin w/o difficulty
Just pointless filler. Either Freeza stomps or they vomit out a wincon for Megatron that's either nonsense or relies on some obscure toyline's lore. It's shit either way because we know frickall about Black Freeza and there's a real possibility he has new abilities we haven't been shown yet.
Speaking on that, the only reason these two are fighting is because of some vague 'galactic conquerors' link and that's real fricking boring. Freeza is currently planning out the usurpation of the gods, more specifically The God. So Black Freeza will have many more interesting matchup possibilities with other 'mortals usurping the gods'. Hell, that'd give him a direct connection to Lucifer.
>But Freeza would get assfricked because the god hierarchy he's usurping is shit compared to other verses!
Oh well. Maybe DB will surprise us. Maybe SDBH will feature Black Freeza and make him extradimensional or something. The fights would be more justified thematically regardless.
Don't talk so quick on megs, especially if he has to fight a jobber, one of his main characteristics that they didn't mention in his preview vid yesterday is that he's linked to a black hole so he got access to pure antimatter (originally it was his fusion cannon that got powered by the black hole but when they shorten his bio for the box of his toy, so the sentence & it got carry on)
The only thing they did wrong is saying the yellow force field aka "panic bubble" is his, while it's not, that's the power of someone else, Trailbreaker, that he got on his corpse after his death but otherwise they did a solid job
Too bad they introduced him with the boring IDW backstory tho
I know. It's brought up every single time the matchup is mentioned. How likely do you think it is that Megatron would be able to win with that? How many chances? How many times? I sincerely doubt you believe it's a 100% instant win button that will work in every round. Do you believe Freeza would be killed by the antimatter before he kills Megatron more than 5/10 times? If not, then Freeza has higher winning odds. If so then why? Is it because of how the antimatter cannon works? Do you think it's because Megatron is faster than him? Is it his experience level?
Where’s Ichigo’s Kaiju dorm?
Why the frick did Frickotardo thought Goku needed a susanoo?
because he's a hack
Don't worry. Toyotaro won't matter soon.
How would he fare in Crossed?
He would probably be a fricking beast I recall him punching zombies tens of feet away and he has that shark proof suit, and unearthly luck. But he won't be able to sustain his happy go lucky attitude with all the rape and torture you'd expect from an Ennis zombie book. Actually it might fuel his fantasy of being a superhero
Now I kinda want Smokey vs Akira, as it’s surprisingly thematic. The happy human who takes advantage of being in a zombie apocalypse to live out his life to the fullest contrasts well with a Crossed who’s one of the miserable ones, Smokey being intelligent enough to realize the Crossed are dooming themselves and unable to be like them, happily wasting their lives for brief pleasure
Doesn’t make it past issue 1
why not?
The Crossed aren’t like Zom 100 zombies in that they’re a mindless horde. They can do anything a human can and can’t really be held back by like a fence, with the added sadism that comes from wanting to rape/kill everything in sight.
Also it’s way easier to infect than in Zom 100. Just some blood can turn you. By issue 2, the Crossed already know they can dip their bullets in jizz so when it’s shot inside you, ya turn into one
What a fricking moronic idea.
Who came up with this?
Garth Ennis of course but I’m pretty sure the intent was it transmitting like an STD
Very moronic but Akira eats shit
this story looks pretty moronic not gonna lie
Would this guy be part of Bowser's standard equipment? I mean, Rovotnik can use his robots so why couldn't this Bowser use his minions?
Eggman's creations are...his creations. Kamek, as far as I know, is just a mage that raised Bowser. He's completely independent from him as an individual and Bowser had no role in his creation.
A better example would be why Bowser can't use Kamek when Red can use his pokemon. Like what the exact difference is there. I suppose Red owns his pokemon and he directly trains them but I wouldn't be surprised if Bowser owns Kamek and if training another person is enough to have them as 'standard equipment' then Kakashi and Jiraiya should have had Naruto, Roshi should have had Goku and Krillin and so on.
in the latter case because literally nobody would watch a pokemon DB that didn't involve the actual pokemon
also Bowser doesn't carry Kamek around in a ball on his waist, better controversial take sort of would be if Deathbattle would allow Soundwave to use laserbeak & co when they're often carried around inside him
Well, that's the obvious explanation yes but I'm more wondering how you can decide whether or not it's 'acceptable' for a character to have other characters as backup. With Eggman and Wily it makes sense, they created most if not all of the machines in their fight. With Taichi I think it's reasonable because Agumon is dependent on him to digivolve. With Red it starts to blur a little because he owns them and trained them but as I said that brings into question other characters who have owned and trained others. Even Freeza has owned and trained people like Tagoma before. And I don't know, maybe you could argue Batman should have access to all of his Robins with that logic.
I'm not sure if there is a legitimate justification for it beyond "Well Pokemon is known for owning and training creatures while these other franchises aren't."
As for Soundwave, I'd personally be totally fine if he had his Mini-Cons. If Red can have his pokemon there is zero justification for Soundwave to not have them.
Yes, they also arbitrarily get the Ten-Tails yet Kakashi can't get Obito's power. It seems a bit inconsistent.
I think part of the justification for pokemon is that the franchise starts out as a game
not just any game but a game where the main gameplay loop is telling your pokemon what moves to do
as such it's core to the very identity of pokemon that the pokemon themselves do the fighting, to a degree none of the other games do that
Bowser was the boss you fought, Kamek is a later addition and he's always served a support role more
>With Red it starts to blur a little because he owns them and trained them but as I said that brings into question other characters who have owned and trained others. Even Freeza has owned and trained people like Tagoma before. And I don't know, maybe you could argue Batman should have access to all of his Robins with that logic.
>I'm not sure if there is a legitimate justification for it beyond "Well Pokemon is known for owning and training creatures while these other franchises aren't."
It’s not because Red trained his Pokemon, it’s that he literally has devices on him at all times that contain his Pokémon to be released and battle for him. Pocket Monsters.
Black zetsu and white zetsu were also connected to both Madara and Obito by the way, Death Battle didn't used them despite them being part of the tree.
Other than doom slayer, what match ups does he win?
maybe vs Shepard from ME?
though that one is a bit of a tossup if they decide to go with biotic shep
Wasn't the main villain of Halo 4 also capable of what ME biotics can do?
Yeah and he cucked chief
yeh but this time his opponent also has protagonist plot armor which makes it more of a crapshoot
Kratosgays be like
Then you get things like Dragonborne vs Chosen Undead where the result was decided based on lore.
and nobody liked that wanking
people liked the fight itself, but only because the fight is sort of what you expect from a non-wanked CU vs DB fight and kind of ignores all the multiverse wanking
While I enjoy TES lore wanking I do think it's a bit stupid to rely on it when it's intentionally vague. The conflict of how much of it is real and how much of it is just bullshit made up by someone is part of the charm. It's fair to say the Dragonborn is stronger than depicted ingame but he probably isn't actually anywhere as great as the lore claims.
As for the Chosen Undead, that shit has always been extremely moronic even with lore. At no point has Dark Souls ever tried to claim Gwyn has the literal power of the sun. Elden Ring has much better arguments for such a scaling via Radahn and the Elden Beast.
I may be miss remembering since its been a hot minute since i played skyrim but wasn't Alduin literally starving and a lot weaker when the dragonborn fought him?
Scaling Dragonborn to full power Alduim was very weird. The dark souls part of the research was also equally stupid to be fair but still
At least the fight was cool. Fantasy dudes with swords fighting it out will always be cool
Yeah, Alduin wasnt even close to full power because he was breaking the rules and Papa Akatosh manifested/brought in Dragonborn to spank him for being a naughty b***hthey flat out say that had Alduin actually been at full power shit woulf have been pretty fricked. Though yeah the Souls wank was even worse. They could/shpuld have just kept it down to the sensible view of them. The result would have been the same anyway
Yeah the result itself isn't something i'm bothered by and the fight itself was honestly pretty damn good. Its more of the research, Genuinelly makes me wonder if the researchers for Death battle even consume the media they bring up in their show. Also
>Extinguishing the flame being portrayed as a bad thing
lol
>Genuinelly makes me wonder if the researchers for Death battle even consume the media they bring up in their show.
They don't. Their fans don't either, which is how we get children and morons defending ICBM level Fire Emblem people.
>Defending a canon cutscene
Yeah mind boggling.
Show me the cutscene where Dimitri himself took one of those Javelins of Light, personally, to his face. Don't say "He scales to the lady that actually took a missile to the face", Fire Emblem is a series about armies and has multiple possible timelines. It's like saying a common American GI in WW2 can absorb and hit with the power of a tank shot because he and his buddy used light infantry tactics to beat German Panzer. As cool as he is, Audie Murphy can't strike with the power of a tank with his bare hands.
>Scaling doesn't exist because I don't like it!
moron scaling is a terrible practice. Characters can have different stats. David isnt as strong as Goliath just because he managed to punk him with a lucky crit between the eyes.
Exactly. There are many instances in real life of people being able to use gadgets and equipment to do things far in excess of normal human abilities. How many people that shoot guns could survive a bullet shot unaided? How many can legitimately dodge bullets by moving at comparable speeds to the projectile? How many guns would get destroyed by shots that they could output?
Because it's not directly applicable in thid case because of too many confounding factors. Damn, we got high school dropouts or actual children here. Were you a C student in science? I'd wager lower. Do you even know what a null hypothesis is, or why we always go for the most parsimonious explanation?
Appeal to reality fallacy.
This is a franchise of peak-superhumans fighting dragons and often gods. Dimitri himself went through training that kicks the ass of a full grown brick house farmboy as a child and b***h slaps magic that exists to be frickery. You can't even argue Jeralt dying to a knife exists as an anti fear because the knife was also infused with the same frickery magic
How about when Dimitri was about to be killed from behind by a teenage girl with a normal knife
That was a plot knife made to somehow snap the guy who broke because of death of a father figure back to sanity with the death of another father figure. It has Truck Kun scaling.
Then you have to prove with a comparable, unambiguous instance of him surviving an attack of that magnitude. In materials science we don't go wild with extrapolation.
>Appeal to reality fallacy.
This has to be the dumbest made up fallacy I've seen. What's next, appeal to logic?
Ignore that guy. He's used the same argument against me multiple times, he legit doesn't know how to debate.
>Compared a real life human being to a magic muscle man that can b***h slap magic because both use military as if it's relative in the slightest
Yes, it's a fallacy.
That is legitimately a fallacy when arguing fiction.
The anime girl in your reaction image doesn't have realistic muscle mass or build but she is nonetheless a powerful physical combatant. Appeal to reality would be downplaying her feats as a physical impossibility based on what women can do in real life.
As far as fallacies I've seen cited against me go, it's probably my favorite. No, you can't say what should realistically happen, the human dude needs to be able to hit with the force of a missile. No, it can't be that his magic weapon made of dragon bone that's magically enchanted that's named after a magic spear that catches fire if not kept in water might just be extra good at cutting things like a heated knife, no, it has to give him on strength on par with a cruise missile.
>No, you can't say what should realistically happen
....yes. It's not like you're going to argue all kaiju should collapse because square cube law.
That's not what they said you fricking moron
So much for "not consuming the media"
But they never said that Dimitri could rank a JOL, they said that he could partially strike as strong as one. It wasn’t even fully scaled for him in terms of AP.
*tank
Didn’t the Javelin hospitalize Rhea?
No you fight her immediately afterwards in SS and VW after it happens. She does die of Dragon Plot AIDS in VW if you don't help her tho
In reality
I can't get over how objectively terrible this writing is. Spider-Man isn't even stronger than the norse and greek gods in his own setting.
You can’t possibly compare Marvel Hercules to his GOW counterpart
Spider-Man is from a setting where the Greek and Norse gods are stronger than the GoW ones, Stargate's Egyptian gods for example are generally not as strong as most other incarnations.
it's probably the same shit as that one Sonic writer saying Sonic would lose to Kid Goku
Now that one piece has an underworld I think power levels are going to ramp up to universal.
>Now that one piece has an underworld
Since when?
Jupiter was just summoned from one.
>now
>since when
Since Brook. His Soul fruit give him ice powers, and the only explanation is that he summons them from the cold depths of the Underworld.
Wasn't Zoro been visited by the grim reaper?
In Wano yeah. Brook and Big Mom's fruit both confirming that the concept of souls exist in OP does generally imply some kind of afterlife anyways.
Isn't there a devil fruit user that manipulates ghosts or something?
Big Mom (inanimate objects), Brook (his own)
This does seem to imply that being able to see souls and ghosts might be relatively easy in One Piece?
Well, not really?
With Observation Haki it's possible to sense people, even when you can't physically see them. But that's more sensing willpower rather than someone's soul.
Perona's Hollows aren't real ghosts, they just look and act like them.
For Brook and Big Mom, their DF make souls into a more tangible thing. When Brook leaves his body, people can see his spirit flying around, plus he can no project his spirit in a way with Soul King. Big Mom basically plays around with souls like silly putty, stealing them out of people and infusing them into inanimate objects.
The only outliar is really Zoro seeing Death, but that's a weird, relatively new thing. No idea whether that's gonna come back up again or not.
So overall it's not 'easy' to see souls in OP, it's just DF shenanigans that specifically involves souls.
Are there instances of ghosts that don't involve devil fruit stuff?
It does seem to be the tendency.
As mentioned earlier, Zoro seeing the Grim Reaper while on the brink of death
But Zoro has observation haki, right? Maybe I'll just read the chapter myself later. It's a recent one, right?
I mean I guess you could try to explain it as Zoro observing his oncoming death, but that's never been shown before, and Zoro hasn't shown any inclination for future sight either.
It's really just like, one panel or two. Most people assumed it was Zoro hallucinating and that the Grim Reaper was actually Brook, but didn't turn out that way, as funny as that would've been.
Very likely a gag, yeah.
In which case, it sounds more allegorical than anything. But I'll see for myself later when I have time to read the chapter.
Outside of Zoro seeing Death? Nope.
Thus far general implied afterlife and the Grim Reaper have been the only really overtly supernatural things that have happened in One Piece. Pretty much everything else is either explained with wacky science or Devil Fruits.
I want to say there was another instance of them seeing a ghost begin to rise from a character, but that may have just been a gag
The only other instance of a spirit being seen to my knowledge and in canon was the klaubaterman for Merry.
Oh yeah I honestly forgot about those.
You could also sort of apply that to cursed swords as well.
Ah true
That's the logic used in some of their matches so, yes.
You might be thinking of Perona. She creates her own ghosts. They're not ghosts in the traditional sense of being existing undead spirits, moreso just entities Perona creates that happen to resemble ghosts.
Post matches that end in rape
Yujiro vs Homelander
Krypto vs Amaterasu
Shame 6.5 didn't give Warrior of Light much to work with in terms of scaling other than the Alliance Raid, which is watered down thanks to it being 24 man content.
Still trounces most of their MUs
Loses to Hero of Tython
Doesn't Zeromus crack reality just by roaring?
The Rift is unquantifiable. We know so little about it and how much force it takes to break the barrier between shards and The Source.
Who can fight her?
Dejah Thoris
>character is a great boxer
>wins most of his fights against other people, but gets hurt in the process
>couldn't lift a car off of his dying girlfriend which still haunts him
>doesn't like fricking with people wielding knives, got hurt pretty badly the time he did
>in one side story the animators messed up and had him just get signed by a bomb that should have pulped him
DB logic: this character clearly is city block tier and could survive a direct impact with a train
Sounds like Baki scaling.
Ivan Drago's PSI punch reading is a fascinating point of data.
Does Drago beat Johnny Lawrence?
All Rocky Characters stomp KK characters unarmed.
why do they always take explosions happening as the result of magic as being as strong as actual explosions?
why can't they ever be magical effects that look like explosions but don't have anywhere near the strength?
Case in point: D&D's most iconic spell fireball causes exactly ZERO kinetic impact, it's pure fire damage that looks like an explosion
Because then you have to ask why they make a cosmetic explosion
because the wizard wants to look cool?
if the explosion looks like it's a bunker buster but just knocks out a trained knight, maybe it's not a bunker buster
Occam's razor
I'd say "the magical effect is not as strong as an actual explosion" has less assumptions needed than "these peasant humans are all strong enough to survive an explosion that size while being average peasants in this setting"
the latter brings with it all kinds of weird plotholes, while the former doesn't
"It doesn't make sense because I don't think it should" is not a counter argument
so you say it makes more sense to have every human in the world be able to walk through explosions than to have the magic "explosion" spell be largely flashy?
>why can't they ever be magical effects that look like explosions but don't have anywhere near the strength?
Probably because that’s a stupid assumption to make that has no actual semblance of proof to back it up? In Dragon Quest you’ve got fire spells that are so large or powerful, that just it existing is enough for the area to rumble, and the people are very obviously affected by said rumbling so it’s not just a fancy effect. Just because it’s magic doesn’t mean that its actual kinetic power isn’t the real deal.
what in the case of the kinetic force obviously not being there or being much less than a regular explosion would
like say, fireball enveloping a wooden desk entirely and only managing to blow the papers off of it while setting it on fire
really though, if a magical attack doesn't appear to do what you think it does, it probably doesn't do that
Nta but it's like you just found out attacks in fiction don't obey conservation of energy. Attacks can have the kinetic energy required to harm something with a certain durability without requiring the energy to disperse properly.
Absolutely nothing worth of value would be lost if they removed LS+ and universal to multiversal out of their analysis, and kept the characters basic and simple.
Strongest character a normal human going Super Saiyan 4 can beat (assuming the 4000x multiplier)
SS4 isn't a 4000 multiplier.
Well I don't want to swim through 10 pages of headcanon or watch video essays by established wankers
Strongest character MUI KaiokenX1000000000 Yamcha can beat
How is this a real fight
Freeza is a planet buster
Galvatron can barely beat up some scrap metal
It isnt. Either you have Frieza bulldoze 95% of Megatron's forms or they bring in the super obscure Alternity Megatron and have Frieza get raped instead. There should be no inbetween (though this is death battle so I wouldnt be surprised if they headcanon'd a way for other Msgatron forms to win somehow).
didn't Galvatron also blow up a planet?
>they're giving Freeza a win so they can give Goku another L later on
IT'S NOT FAIR
please, the ONLY reason they even did this fight is because they're confident they can shit out a win for Megatron
the entire point of this matchup is that everyone knows Freeza wins, so when Megatron wins they get a ton of outrage hype
Perhaps,
All the scenarios in my head point to Megatron winning but Frieza could eke it out but I see no point for them to not use his Alternity, but nevertheless im gonna root for Frieza nevertheless
BLACKza one shot that jobber years ago in-universe. I bet with his HTC he's already achieved an even greater form while WEAKu stagnates behind even JOBgeta. If you ask me it's completely fair for a hardworker non-jobber like Freeza to get a win while the lazy-ass Ultra Whatever monkeys get shit on.
who would win?
So, who should Castlevania's Alcuard fight? Dante from Devil May Cry?
Bueno Excelente
Vampire Hunter D appears to be the fan favorite choice
D. Castlevania wank is ridiculous so let it be met by even more ridiculous wank.
Swan actually running into the D wall on the podcast was incredible. He was citing game manuals and databooks and scaling and Chad's responses were "D did this"
posts the better meruem match up
Post the REAL Cell matchup
Cell has no real matchup, he's like Frieza but way way worse with matchups
AMAZO.
Nah, DCAU Amazo is for Novel Kars
Comic AMAZO.
literally who
Ya'll just ducking another L for DB.
Unless you go hard on nlf Frietzer pisses all over AMAZO(n)
>Bringing up Frieza for a Cell debate
Meh I'm hesitant with comic Amazo because they like going heavy with DC wank, while Cell is currently the lowest on the DBZ villain roster
Nobody gives a shit about comic Amazo.
DCAU AMAZO is at least casually known and wanked by normies
Literally nobody gives the smallest frick about comic AMAZO
In the same manner Garou doesn't have any real matchup now because of how high Murata went with him. He used to have Marshall Law and Kenpachi, but now it's maybe Cell and Godspeed
Webcomic Garou vs Yujiro would have been peak
He is even with Doomsday now
Garou is for Neh Buh Loh
Lavos from Chrono Trigger
isn't Lavos SDBH level of strong?
some kids and a frog beat him
There's nothing wrong with pitting him against Zygarde.
Zygarde was made to kill Mewtwo, who is similar to Freeza. And who has Freeza DNA in himself? Cell.
is a shit match because nobody knows who the frick that is nor is people asking for it.
what kind of utter stupidity do you need to even believe Zygarde could last more than 5 microseconds against even base form Cell?
The same nonsense we're getting with Megatron fighting Frieza.
this is on a whole nother level
at least Megatron has some bullshit feats in one continuity
There's nothing Zygarde ever does that gets him to even frigging Radditz level
Are you asking me if a Pokémon could get stupid apeshit wank?
All of the day bro.
but DB hates pokemon and consistently wanks their opponents
Shadow lost to Mewtwo.
Lets be real, that match was an abortion on pretty much every conceivable level
because there's literally no way you could wank Shadow to have any mental resistance to Mewtwo's mindfrickery
they even had to, begrudingly admit, the battle wouldn't even happen and they had to basically make mewtwo choose not to mindfrick him the second he showed up
but you can tell they hated every moment of that
>there's literally no way you could wank Shadow to have any mental resistance to Mewtwo's mindfrickery
Yeah, except for the entire game where Shadow resisted mind control from his creator
except he didn't, he got mind controlled and they had to destroy the mind control machine to break him out
if anything that's an anti feat
i wonder why
When has that ever happened
Nimrod is pretty fun. Androids made to hunt.
Yeah, otherwise Zygarde is my favorite.
Nimrod or The Fury would be cool against The Shrike
The Fury vs The Shrike is just too good to pass up, honestly. Ludicrously unstoppable hunter-killer bots made by gods, pursuing their targets through time, space, and dimensions.
I think you’re just not trying hard enough
>Super Skrull
I’m surprised I never thought of that. Capeshit again and DBZ vs capeshit at that but it sounds fun.
You're too late, they dismissed it on stream and said they wouldn't do it
>Dismissing a capeshit fight
Surely you’re joking
Cell is for DIO
saw alucard from castlevania being talked about, made this
That's pretty neat.
gimme MUs to make TNs of
Lies of P protag VS Sekiro
Nice. Could actually make for a neat match
Cell vs Garou
Not bad
TN?
US Presidents Battle Royal.
there's not a 50 people thumbnail thing, so i'll do the last 5
Obama by virtue of being younger and more athletic or Bush by virtue of actually being able to handle a gun
I mean, Bush41 already killed one president
Guess Teddy was barred as he'd easy clown on everybody
i was going to do the last eight but the senior bush had very little to work with so i slapped the next two i remembered on.
and yeah, Teddy deserves his own match. have him fight churchill
Clinton uses his extreme powers of persuasion to get laid.
Roosevelt stomps
This. Roosevelt was the biggest chad of a president of all time. Fricker got shot mid speech, called the guy a homosexual, and made sure to finish his speech before getting medical attention.
Lincoln's probably the only pres that could manhandle Roosevelt. He's got 6 inches on him and was a champion wrestler prior to his presidency
I could beat the FRICK out of everyone in this thread
No one is participating in a competition to suck dicks.
Ur mom was
Shieeeeeeeeeeettt
How far are they willing to pull sources from? Would they use this excerpt from the Marvel website to give Hulk infinite strength?
But it claims he got fricked by it
Yeah, he could barely hold himself up on his hands and knees. It's more that he somewhat supported the weight but what I'm curious about is whether or not DeathBattle would use it. They already gave Thor an "infinite gravity" thing after all
bye bye Cell
All of this pokemon talk has got me wondering. We know they showed a clip of a pokemon battle in the S10 Premier trailer, but we've yet to see one this late into the season. Makes me real suspicious on what they've got planned
Something disappointing I am sure
Pretty much if you stretch with Fire God Liu Kang stuff. Though MK is weird with that shit as despite some of the over the top fatalities that those like FGLK can do, relative normies are still able to smack those like him around with regular fisticuffs in the actual story
I havent checked the new MK story but apparently friggin Mileena was able to beat his ass?
I'm waiting for the cursed mu
Grovyle vs Lucina
say thank you
This would genuinely do worse than Killsaka
No it wouldn’t. Lucina’s an actual recognizable FE character and Pokémon is Pokémon even if it’s someone like Grovyle.
Yeah and everyone would have the same reaction. "Why the frick?" Even the dumbest normalgay can see Killsaka and go 'Oh lightning fight'. This one makes no sense to even the people who bothered to play MD.
Also you think people are going to be happy to see Lucina when she was part of the reason FE went down the Waifu VN route when Dimitri got shit?
>friggin Mileena was able to beat his ass?
He nerfed himself to Raiden levels for MK1 up until the end of the game
They were also in Outworld for a significant amount of time and the longer a god stays in a realm not assigned to them, the more their power wanes
the story mode intro monologue has him literally crafting the universe according to his will. I genuinely don’t know how ryu or jago (if that happens) stack up unless weird composite bs
Ryu vs Liu Kang, probably a shitstomp for old louie now
Could you imagine Liu Kang using the Hourglass to reboot Street Fighter?
It'd be a neat what if, i will admit
he resists it in shadow the hedgehog, i believe. even then thats not even the most glaring flaw in that shit episodes logic
He resists Black Doom's mind control, but comparing Black Doom to Mewtwo is kinda laughable.
Yeah, because mind control is not a thing Mewtwo ever uses in battle
Worth it if we can finally get a SF with Makoto again.
realistically nobody should be able to defeat Shang Tsung or Raiden, period, but here we are.
Sentrybros.......we are getting replaced?
Please tell me this is AI generated...
No. Sentry is dead and some randos are fighting for his power. First issue in december.
He will be back in proper. Soon.
Is his tail supposed to be a club?
I mean somewhat? Original cell had a needle tail for drinking/absorbing people, Cell Max used his tail to hit people and shoot ki beams out of
First there's Titan Level Liu Kang that was at the end of Mk11. Then Liu Kang gave lot of his godly powers (he didn't want to go batshit like Kronika) so he was at demi god status but still a lot more powerful than most of the cast. Then Liu Kang has to get all his power back by the end of the game to stop Titan Shang Tsung, and according to his Arcade, he lost his immortality but will still live a long amount of time, so gives the hourglass to Geras to watch.
this is what happens when you hire failed creative writting majored "people". They ruin everything that made a franchise good in favor of slop like this.
Like being OP in mk meant onaga getting all kamidogu but could still be beaten by the power of friendship.
Anyway why did they turn tanya into ghetto black woman?
>Liu Kang can take powers and memories like how he took Shujinko's in Kung Lao's ending
Yeah, poor Ryu is screwed.
Liu Kang is for Jago. Stop trying to marry the wrong characters, b***h.
>Jago
Who?
Who the frick is Jago
Killer Instinct main character
Sabrewulf is the MC
... of a different game.
>he knows
fellow man of culture.
Sissyza is going to make loud, really gay moans as Megatron shoves his fusion canon up his ass.
>Liu Kang finds the universe where Ken had Ryu's fight autism and became UNRIVALED
>WHO
>WHO
HOLY FRICK, I got an owl in my home? Xoo!!
Shockwave is above all.
Is hamon related to stands at all? This shit is so confusing, fricking haraki.
An early japanese name for Stands translates to "Ghost Hamon" and Stands can conduct it fairly easily but they're otherwise unrelated iirc
What about the spin technique fro 7? Also I've read that hamon might just be an early evolution for humans of stands. That would be a cool explanation if it was official
I also don't know if you want to say it's wholey related either, but Araki did state had he been able to see them, young Joseph did have Hermit Purple, it just wasnt until DIO returned and triggered the stand awakenings of the the Joestars that he could fully see it. So it's possible Joseph's natural Hamon talent and eventual mastery gave him his stand. This also pairs with the fact that even Jonathan had a stand (virtually identical to Hermit Purple)
In part 7, Araki does equate Stands as being the natural next steps of Hamon and the Spin
Ok so it's the same then. Very neat, I thought it was a loosen end that never got any explanation.
Looks like Araki didn't forgot everything.
what's this about spin? who's spinning?
beyblades
Spin is the bullshit power they use in JoJo Part 7. It's energy they apply to things like objects
Who is the single most wanked character in the history of VS?
Goku. He's tree level but people think he's multiversal++++++++++ with masssivelly infinite speed.
Lucifer Morningstar
Relative to how they actually are? Probably Kratos
Entire Naruto verse. It is not even moon level. Loses to One Piece too.
It doesn't lose to One Piece's dumbass characters. You're just a one piece tard.
If intelligence was all that was required to win than Dragon Ball would have even more loses. Their smartest characters are dumber than Naruto who is already one of the dumbest characters in his own series.
Do you mean 'smartest' like technologically? Education? Because we have Bulma, Gero, Hedo, Future Trunks, Gohan and so on. Do you mean combat smarts? Because Goku's intelligence is dumped entirely into that.
All the scientist characters in Dragon Ball are just that Sherlock Meme about how smart people are wizards to dumb people.
...Okay and the comparison is between Naruto and Dragon Ball. Who is one of the smartest guys in Naruto, perhaps THE smartest? Oh wait...Shikamaru. Sure hope that guy didn't job to a fricking circle or something that'd be moronic.
Isn’t Madara or Kaguya smarter due to Keikaku
Kaguya is a moron, Zetsu hard carried
Kaguya is a character that goes for her instant KO move right away. In a VS scenario this is actually a good character.
It's not her fault Sasuke and Nardo had a mcgufifn power that they got from her dead son.
Pretty sure Kaguya is a dumb b***h and it was Black Zetsu who did all the work. Madara, for that matter, was manipulated by Black Zetsu and he had Obito do something like 90% of the work while he was dead.
Actually, what the hell did Madara even do on an intellectual-level? Everything was handed to him by Black Zetsu and I'm pretty sure Obito was just luck. Uh...he gave Nagato the rinnegan? Which ended up backfiring when Naruto converted him to his cult? He was able to cast Izanagi via Hashirama's DNA? What else?
You mean the circle that half of the fighters (who remained to the end) immediately ditched? If anything that's just shitting on Gohan's tactical abilities which I'm more than fine with. The humans can be excused for that shit because they could get fricked up by almost any jobber in that ring if caught alone.
>You mean the circle that half of the fighters (who remained to the end) immediately ditched?
Yes that one. Ringing endorsement for Gohan's intelligence there.
Jokes on you I also make fun of Shikamaru for that shit too.
Also don't talk about circles when mentioning Dragonball, you don't want people remembering how the two smartest people on U7's side thought their best strategy after 24 hours of planning was to stay in a circle the entire tournament.
How is this just moon level?
>smaller than a building
Luffy clears.
That's the planet.
>planet is the size of a tractor
Planet for ants maybe.
I'm not explaining what's happening in that pic again.
Ever hear of the world 'hyperbole'?
That is literally the Juubi absorbing a planet worth of energy to take form. There's no hyperbole in there.
Naruto in whatever Narutoforum post is in the beginning of this video
Kringo
Chosen Undead
yes he lost but the wank was beyond anything else
Green Lantern
Naruto and its not even close
>infinite speed civilians because they reacted to light
That beam reached another dimension.
the naruto vs community was so fricking huge it started eating other communities once people realised nobody was following boruto. The damages will be felt for decades to come.
Usually characters with huge followings that cater to a power fantasy. Basically, think Sonic, Naruto, Ben 10, Spider-Man and Batman. There's a reason why all of them are the most shipped characters in fictional history.
Godzilla by a fricking landslide. The amount of horseshit that's said online makes me want to actually kill myself just for fear of living in the same universe as such stupidity.
Where there's a will there is a way
I know but this is some fricking bullshit. I jus saw a guy who effectively said "Don't listen to the visuals, listen to the LORE"
what power level did his interpretation of Godzilla have?
Galaxy level
VS Spacegodzilla and it's consequences have been a disaster
clearly a lowball
at least post the link to it you moron
Honestly Godzilla's powerscalers are the absolute worst in terms of "Making shit up"
Gamera with his 4 fans
>complain about godzilla every fricking thread
>"LOL UR JUST OBSESSED I'M POSTING THE IMAGE AGAIN"
Nikogay tier
Godzilla is so powerful he warps the minds of his haters in the real world
>Nikogay
>gameragay
>gayborn
Who else we got?
I think Gamera is like, the only character I can think of who I've never seen a ton of wank for.
Kratos and it isn't even close.
I don’t know how VS battles can say with a straight face Kratos is above someone like Alien X
Technically they're both in 1C
But of course the idea that Kratos is even comparable to Alien X in the first place is ridiculous
Yeah, Otto has it.
No matter how anybody else wanks their character, and no matter how many like, fategays try to say that their characters are universal or whatever, at the very least the fategays have at least some reason to believe that due to the absolutely frickfest of a cosmology that their setting has.
Kratos though?
Literally boulder level.
I mean, Thor DID hit a guy so hard he traveled back in time onscreen.
Whatever that means I don't know
>at the very least the fategays have at least some reason to believe that due to the absolutely frickfest of a cosmology that their setting ha
So does GoW with its world tree scaling you brainworm ridden frick.
"World" in that context is just Scadenavia
Yeah, no, there's proof that each Lostbelt in Fate is the size of at the very least the world, and wanked up, the Universe.
He's an example of what I like to call "The Badass Fallacy"
The more hardcore a character is the more likely they are to be wanked to shit and back
case in point, doomguy and everything 40k
Also Guts
Its honestly why i was hoping death battle would make him fight Kirito. it would be so fricking hilarious
>Kiritogays fearing the ass whooping his actual matchup would deliver onto him
I am not a kiritogay. i just think it would be hilarious because kirito is the epitome of what berserkergays despise
I would be 100% fine with Kirito getting data drained by Haseo
Kiritogays literally don't exist, the only people who want him in VS at all are guys trying to farm reddit salt for Neo or Guts losing to him. If there were more than two Haseo fans he'd probably be on the fraudcheck list as well
Spongebob
Dante.
>Freeza loses
>everyone will cry "what about Black Freeza?"
same shit happens everytime
What happens if Black Freezer loses as well?
this is why it should be classic DBZ Freeza vs G1 Meg/Galv
Black Freeza has existed for like 7 pages at most. We don't even know how powerful he is beyond shitting on Goku and Vegeta. Super Hero takes place nearly two years after that and he is actively training with a time chamber to usurp God.
We don't even know what the hell he can do or the extent of his strength when he fricked up Goku and Vegeta. And he has had an additional two years to develop further. So the entire idea of doing a Freeza match is fricking moronic.
Gotta love Frieza. The whole time he could have been god tier and all he had to do was hit the gym for a few months
To be fair Golden Freeza after just four months of training is a fricking chump on the multiversal scale. Hit, Toppo, Jiren, Dyspo, Broly, all of the Angels, Zenos, any GoD and probably a bunch of other mortal warriors could have kicked his ass. If Moro was let out he would have fricked up Freeza in RoF with no issue.
Even after a year to master Golden he'd still only really knock off Hit, Toppo and Dyspo. The rest I mentioned would still beat True Golden Freeza's ass easily. It's only really after training ten years that he's leapt to this insane level where he's only under Zeno, the Angels and (probably) Beerus.
Yeah but still like relative to Z era its pretty funny to think about
I suppose. Unfortunately powercreep has made Z into a joke. Freeza's four months doesn't even seem that crazy when anyone can apparently surpass that level in under a year (Gohan, Piccolo, Goten, Trunks, A17, A18, so on)
Frankly the actual intelligence antifeat there was anyone making Gohan the team captain and even pretending to follow him. Krillin clowns on him before the tournament and I don't recall even a single instance of Gohan being a smart fighter. It's pretty much always about his brute strength, usually by relying on anger that he struggles to even tap into.
Gohan is a scholar who is good at teaching normies how to fly and shit. He isnt a fight savant, strategist, or tactician.
Sucks because him being interested in techniques and picking apart opponents styles and coming up with chessmaster strats could have been a fun niche for him
The funny thing is that in Toriyama's DBO lore Gohan does write a book on Ki that helps make it mainstream but the ones who actually teach it are Pan, Goten, Trunks, Krillin and Tien. And even then Krillin and Tien only did it years after the latter three started teaching.
>BoG
Age 778
>RoF
Age 779 (Outright stated to be a year after BoG. Pan is born this year)
>USS
Age 780 (Stated Freeza was in Hell for a year)
>Broly to end of Granolah
Broly isn't stated. Moro has a three month timeskip. Granolah starts a few months after Moro and then the actual fight is several weeks after that, so overall probably over half a year between Moro and Granolah and an unknown timegap between USS and Broly.
You can maybe argue this is Age 781.
>Age 783
Events of Super Hero. Pan is 3 years old, it's 3 years after RoF.
The gap from the ToP and end of Granolah is over half a year so at the absolute maximum SH is two and a half years after Granolah. Gap between SH and EoZ is unknown because we don't know the month SH is but EoZ is in May
Dude, Super Hero is 3 years after Granolah. Just before End of Z.
Is it gonna be hard to reconcile Black Frieza and the Super Hero timeline?
Actually super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Nah. Black Freeza and SH are years apart.
I thought they confirmed they were using Black Frieza?
>Luffy’s going to be in the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade now
Why can’t Naruto be as popular as Luffy Ninjabros?
Black Freeza has more to work with than Dark Dimension Vader who every gay here was convinced would turn the tides
Isn't that the story for most of battleboarding?
>"Oh I see your character is generally city-level! You see my character is typically moon-level so I'm pretty sure my character wins!"
>"UM ACKSHUALLY ONE TIME MY CHARACTER BECAME GOD SO YOUR CHARACTER IS FRICKED KIDDO"
Yujirobros….
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We lost to a manlet
If Speedy wanks a character, do we call it Swank or Spank?
Also was the whole tunnel vision excuses for Bill actually brought up by the crew or is it just Billgay cope on why the kaleidoscope vision isn't debunked.
The crew didnt do a talkback for Billcord because "muh toxicity" (ie Speedy cried) and they knew the reasoning was bullshit
I mean the Gravity Falls crew, did they at any point say or confirm that Bill lost due to tunnel?
No. Most we got was Alex larping as Bill while also saying he was a liar so anything he said should be taken with a heap of salt
This is the best I could get it to give me for the current fight. Anybody have any fights they want to see the AI try to make?
"I'm sure to win, my speed is superior."
Where Frieza leg
I wouldn't worry about it.
Yang Xiao Long vs Raphael
Gonna be honest, the AI doesn't know who the frick Yang is.
Isn't that just Weiss
I don't know who Yang is either.
I just know she doesn't have black hair.
That’s a pretty good Raphael. And tbf that is Yang’s color scheme even if that’s Weiss’ haircut
Yang’s the busty blonde chick
It at least got the general color scheme down.
Weiss and Yang did the fusion dance but lost to Blake and Ruby (they used the earrings).
i kneel to gargoyles chads
If not for Guts having an extra sword, this would be amazing.
where does the new The End boss put sonic at?
He's already at multiversal.
I don't think it really gave him anything new
>Literally gives him a Super Sonic 2
>"Didn't give him anything new"
My brother in Christ...
Where's Sonic at? Some kind of Mary Su level.
>A single Erazor Djinn is universal+ according to VSWiki
>can rewrite reality
Shin Akuma level
>Yakuza vs Undertale
People on that server have the most baffling tastes. It's a hellish echo chamber.
What in God's name?
Death Battle Discord or Normalgays on twitter
Who do you trust more for coming up with a season?
I'd go to a old age home and see what they say. It would probably be the funniest season ever.
They would make such a kino season.
>Flash Gordon vs Buck Rogers
>The Shadow vs Batman
>Blacks vs israelites
Otto your people aren't getting an easy win
Hitler vs Stalin vs Mao triple battle when
Bonus Round: All historical claims about them, no matter how outlandish and blatantly false are true.
Who wins?
Mao. He got people thinking he was Captain America who slew hundreds of Japs with his bare hands.
Yeah, alls well and good until Hitler pulls out THE LANCE OF LONGINUS AND MJOLNIR
>German Master Race vs Soviet Super Man vs Deific Mao
Twitter Normalgays would at least probably just pick really boring/safe match-ups.
Everything I've seen from the DB Discord is just random, absolute ass match-ups.
Normies by a hundred miles
That reminds me, does anyone have a summary for today's ballot banter?
Well, what matchups would normalgays come up with?
nobody knows who the frick Jin Mori is
>Summary
Most matches offered were shit so I'll offer up only a few
>mag vs Accel
Popular matchup. Swan says he wants to do it. Apparently Accel may be strong enough to stand up to magneto
>Mega man x vs samus
Swan thinks samus loses
>Courier 6 vs mandolorian
They admitted it was a cool match.
>Kars vs mereum
Swan wants to do it
>Anything else
Nope. Only good matches in a span of 30 minutes.
>Kars vs mereum
>Swan wants to do it
Nothing new here
Courier 6 would rape
>>mag vs Accel
>Swan says he wants to do it.
Then why didn't they do it for Mag's actual episode?
>>Kars vs mereum
>Swan wants to do it
HxH 0-2? Or will Kars be the sacrificial lamb to make him look unbiased?
>we could have gotten Mags vs Accel and Tetsuo vs Shinji (or even more based, Genocyber)
why must DB treat us so?
>or will Kars be the sacrificial lamb to make him look unbiased
doubtful, he's a hardline JoJotard. Worse yet cause Kars is one of those strong case characters that could even beat DIO
I think Araki once said that Ultimate Kars was the strongest character in Jojo, I may be wrong.
Wammu I get, but Acdc?
You may be right, Kars was generally considered the strongest being up to Part 6, only losing to stands like GER and MiH.
>why must DB treat us so?
They're all morons
He said Kars is the worst JoJo antagonist, beaten in quality by wammu and acdc, and he is boring.
>He said Kars is the worst JoJo antagonist, beaten in quality by wammu
Well Wammu is well liked for his honorable spirit but I think it's tougher to call since Kars is the main vill-
>and acdc
??? Eisdisci is a complete moron though? His only thing was losing and being reduced to a brain. Swan actually is moronic
That connection is fricking dogshit. Majima only “pops up at inopportune times” in a single game out of the 10+ games he appears in.
But anon they have eyepatches too!
I’d take it over Pearl vs Undyne. At least they have the same level of feats and they’re from franchises I actually like.
Think it's gonna get astroturfed like Lucina vs Grovyle or Luke vs Saber?
These zoomers genuinely don't know what they're talking about. Majima Everywhere was side content in a single game (a remake of the first game, mind you). Not just that, but Majima never tries to actually kill Kiryu, they've been allies since before the first game's events.
>Goku vs Mori
SOVL. Especially now that Magic reveal is so close. Would be a cool fight.
nightmarishly fricking awful
anyways undertale monsters are giga-jobbers that can be defeated by someone with intent to harm - they can be defeated by a literal child.
Double standards are fricking awful
Will they be doing ballot banter for the next batch too? I just want to see what they say about mine
Don’t they just go down the line of MU’s posted in that part of the server? Might be a while until they get to yours depending on when you posted it.
IDC I was just wondering if they'll eventually get to it or if they were quitting after last years stuff.