Characters this season that beat Gojo >No diff tier
Discord
Bill cypher
Raven
Phoenix
Frieza
Megatron
The doctor
Silver Surfer
Martian manhunter
Courage
Scooby
Son Goku
Clark Kent >Low diff tier
Ant man (can possibly tank UV because scientist supreme brain, also ants lack CE so he can just kill Gojo with ants inside his domain)
Stitch (super brain tanks UV and just kills Gojo inside his domain)
Rick Sanchez (could possibly tank UV for a moment and the portal gun can bypass Limitless easily)
Vader (force ends the battle almost instantly and defends him against UV) >Mid diff tier
Obito (kamui bypasses limitless and Gojo can't do shit against Rikudo)
Dovahkiin (soul frickery alone kills Gojo, but he has like 10 other ways to do it)
Chosen Undead (Outclasses Gojo in almost all aspects, and even if he lacks ways around his Hax eventually Gojo would succumb from exhaustion)
Characters this season Gojo beats >High diff tier
Makima >Mid diff tier
Rocket Raccoon (guns can decimate Gojo inside his domain but otherwise can't bypass Limitless)
Alex Mercer (sorcerers are weak against viruses, but besides that Gojo can kill him before getting infected)
Cole (faster and has a Wincon with the energy absorption, but can't bypass Limitless or UV) >Low diff tier
Misaka Mikoto (would surprise Gojo with speed, but can't hurt him)
Killua (same as Misaka but worse)
Atom (I don't think he can survive UV or bypass Limitless)
Dimitri (unless he can cast magic directly inside his opponents he lacks any way to hurt Gojo, let alone survive his attacks) >No diff tier
Guts (can't really do anything against Gojo)
Before this thread goes insane I just want to ask an actual legitimate question
Why the frick do you guys care about this? Who the frick is death battle that you guys care to this level? Im legitimately confused as to why you guys give a frick.
Death Battle is run by morons that have been using the most grade school moronic logic for a fair while now. Despite that though, they still have some level of sway in powergay circles and the autistic fanbases that care about that.
So its mostly used as a means of trolling said fanbases whenever their favorite loses and watching them explode which can be funny. Also the fight animations and music can be entertaining occasionally
It's fun. The same reason I go to any Cinemaphile thread just to read anons argue about off topic shit, but here at least sometimes I find some interesting discussions.
Me personally?
I just like watching the fight animations.
I personally don't give a frick about how wins or not. I skip all the pre-fight commentary and ads, I watch the fight, I then skip the post fight analysis, and only watch the last 20 seconds to see the next match up.
And in the event I don't know either character, I just skip it.
That said I much prefer villains fighting each other over heroes. Dracula vs Ganondorf is still one of mu favorites for that reason.
the biggest thing DB has going for them is that they make animations for their fights with VAs, ost, the works, all topped off with decent deaths and not just "character falls down defeated". If they didn't have that, no one would give a shit about them. It's why people got semi-hyped when SeththeCuckgrammer was gonna animate Naruto vs Ichigo with a decent runtime of like 10 minutes
Seth was never going to animate it, he was just paying for the thing.
Surfbone is the animator and tbe guy is still active and looking for a solution to get the shit finished.
>Seth was never going to animate it, he was just paying for the thing.
yeah sorry thats what I meant. It was still a very anticipated project but ultimately fell under because Seth got greedy
THE IMP OF THE PANDORICA
THE SHADOW OF THE VALEYARD
THE BEAST OF TRENZALORE
THE BUTCHER OF SKULLMOON
THE LAST TREE OF GARSENNON
THE DESTROYER OF SKARO
THE ONCOMING STORM
>3 Death Battles forced by DC corporate shilling >All of them flopped compared to Toph, Bayo, and Tifa's. >Just like her 2nd movie and comics.
I still don't buy that people legitimately like this character. I never see anyone passionately discussing her, unless she's used as a tool by DCgays to shit on Thor. A MU she should have lost, by the way.
>3 Death Battles forced by DC corporate shilling
3? I just remember 2 (Vs Thor and Vs She Ra) what is the 3rd? >unless she's used as a tool by DCgays to shit on Thor
Why wondie specifically? Just because she is a god princess?
I always thought Thor shared more similarities with Shazam.
Her character is too inconsistent to actually be a fan of, I like her concept and general aesthetics, some versions of her are shit but others are very enjoyable.
>>All of them flopped compared to Toph, Bayo, and Tifa's.
tfw Bayo vs Dante will never get fixed...
Wait, those three fights are incorrect! Not just WW vs Thor.
>SV Superman is literally a non-canon what-if vision which contradicts the mythos >Milkman Man is non-canonical and got BTFO by regular Wonder Woman.
Goku wins.
No he didn't. Did you even read that comic? He failed to lift it. Show me where he successfully lifted it. And you might even be talking about Ultraman.
>Goku instant transmissions close to Gojo >There is still infinity between them
Gojo literally shows you can be close to touching fingertips with him and there's still infinity in between. Instant transmission is useless. >superior speed
Gojo physically dodged a Domain Expansion mechanic called "Guaranteed Hit" which is instant and has no startup time. Gojo has faster reaction speed than Goku so he can dodge any physical attack.
>Goku can instantly transmit his hand to Gojo's throat
Has a single villain or character in Dragon ball done that? Instant transmission always teleported you right next to the target
>Hakai
Even Jobgeta punched through it. Just like every attack it gets stuck in the unlimited space never harming Gojo. >Mafuba
Can't get past infinity, users can miss with it meaning it has a tangible quality to it and isn't just sticking to the victim upon startup.
The arms that sealed gojo were also tangible and yet, he was still sealed.
Hakai doesn't need to travel. Destruction energy can be used as a projectile or like an attack that ignores distance. Goku used it on Zamasu without touching him in the manga.
You have prove that Hakai does NOT have travel time? Because literally everytime we see it needs to actually attach itself to the opponent and it even failed many times. Even Vegeta punched through it. There's more evidence showing it needs to travel and there's zero evidence to the contrary.
Gojo turned off infinity to not kill the innocent civilians so that's not really getting past it, it just wasn't turned on intentionally at the time. >without touching
But the god ki still needs to travel to the victim and there's no proof showing otherwise. Everytime we've seen it used the glow has to get to the enemy and that thing will just get stuck in infinity.
Goku can instantly transmit his hand to Gojo's throat
Goku is faster
And besides, telekinesis
>instantly transmit his hand
Goku has never detached his hand and even if he did there will still be infinity between it and Gojo. There will always be infinity between Gojo and whatever no matter how close you get. >is faster
Gojo reacted to instant which is the fastest. He's much faster than Goku in reaction speed. Goku is faster in travel speed but that's meaningless with infinity.
>Gojo reacted to instant
Scans?
Anyways, he can just IT with his hand directly grabbing Gojo
6 months ago
Anonymous
Gojo doesn't need to react, Infinity is automatic.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I'm talking about this supossed instant reaction feat you brought up. Post it.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I'm talking about this supossed instant reaction feat you brought up. Post it.
Jogo failed his instant hit on Gojo. When someone opens a domain there's a mechanic called "guaranteed hit"/"can't miss" attack which is instant and has no startup time. It literally just appears already on the enemy and yet Gojo reacted to it. Gojo has faster reaction speed than Goku. Hell Goku's instant transmission speed itself is questionable since during his underground fight with Beerus he spammed it and still got hit.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Post actual scans and not your description
6 months ago
Anonymous
That is a scan. Chapter 15.
Wiki says sure-hits go through infinity
And Gojo reacted to it proving my point.
Proof that surehits move at infinite speed?
The surehit attacks don't even exist until it's already hitting you. There is no startup, there is no travel, it's already hitting the target. And it's guaranteed to hit no matter what. Gojo reacted to instant. Meanwhile Goku in Ultra Instinct is getting fricking rocked everytime he activates it. kek
6 months ago
Anonymous
That doesn't even say that it is infinite. It just means that it is faster than Maki the moment it appeared.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Because Beerus is faster than instant.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The same guy who couldn't keep up with Goku's IT?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Wiki says sure-hits go through infinity
6 months ago
Anonymous
>the attack is called guaranteed hit >that must means it is infinite
Kek. Is this moron for real? He is using the same logic as that one NaruTARD when he claimed everyone is infinite speed.
6 months ago
Anonymous
And you haven't debunked me to this day.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Gojotard is the NaruTARD >he thinks that his aurora borealis needs debunking
Kek. Why are nu-shonen gays like this?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Nah your mistaken. I literally just came from the gym and clicked this thread for the first time today. I don't watch JJK or care particularly about that.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The attack isn't called guaranteed hit, it's a mechanic in JJK. Read the manga.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Scans on how it works?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Are you sure he wasn't just doing vanishes
6 months ago
Anonymous
Proof that surehits move at infinite speed?
6 months ago
Anonymous
In that same chapter Gojo explained that sometimes you can parry guaranteed hits speedreader.
Also stop ignoring
Goku just kills Gojo inside of his own domain, It's a dead end for him because none of his attacks can actually kill Goku besides UV's brain melting capabilities, but using it means he is vulnerable to be punched to death by ultra instinct Goku.
If superman can fly at speeds even remotely close to the flash then he can literally out infinite limitless and one tap Gojo
Goku has a lot of Wincons against Gojo, and so does Superman.
6 months ago
Anonymous
He's actively ignoring Goku's telekinesis. The gojotard can't do anything but post headcanons and deny reality.
>But the god ki still needs to travel to the victim and there's no proof showing otherwise
It doesn't need to travel. It ignores distance. Gojo is dead. Even if Gojo activated his domain, Goku can break out of it. Gotenks and Buu screamed out of a dimension in Z, Super Goku is much more powerful.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Being able to be used from a distance =/= it doesn't need to travel
The actual God ki needed to perform it still has to get to the victim and that's everytime we see Hakai. Hakai got punched through too. Unless you have proof it doesn't need to travel it's a moronic headcanon.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I have all the proof in my manga scans. Where is the glow and the spark you claim? Attack happened instantly. Hakai doesn't need to be used like a fireball. Goku used it without touching and firing it.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Goku literally has to aim his hand specifically at the rock and there's an entire panel to show he has to aim specifically at it. If Hakai doesn't need to travel why does he need to aim it and why doesn't it just work instantly? Because everytime we've seen Hakai it has to get to the opponent and it even got punched through. The manga is obviously black and white and hakai is shown differently in many scenes, even when Beerus uses it it looks like nothing and only the burst of the target is shown like Goku and the rock. Again, there's more proof of the god ki having to stick to the target first than the contrary.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Because he needs to aim to select his target? Are you actually moronic or just pretending?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Aiming at something doesn't prove that Hakai needs to travel. Does telepathy and telekinesis needs to travel because someone is focusing on using it? Kek. There are no effects in the manga, otherwise Toyotaro would put something to indicate that.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Wut
If Hakai doesn't need to travel, Zamasu wouldn't be able to escape it.
6 months ago
Anonymous
... Because it takes time to erase him? How does it prove Hakai has travel time?
6 months ago
Anonymous
...because Hakai is crossing his body... And he had time to escape it, ergo, not instant...
6 months ago
Anonymous
Proof Hakai is traveling to his body?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Hakai is literally travelling from one side of the target to the other. Meaning it's crossing distance. You lost the argument, moron.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Proof that Hakai is traveling?
6 months ago
Anonymous
He even had time to change his facial expression and to sweat lmao that's some instant you Dragon Balls gays have there
6 months ago
Anonymous
Not him but >Everyone else died instantly
Zamasu when Beerus erased him wasn't immortal.
Being used as a projectile =/= hakai itself not needing to touch someone
We're talking about the god ki, not the user. We literally see the Hakai itself having to slowly dissolve bodies everytime it's used, meaning it's travelling on the body to get from one side to the other. Hakai requires distance therefore it's never getting through infinity.
You brown mongoloid. Only Fused Zamasu was dissolving like a pill die to his immortality. Every other instance, it was instant kill.
6 months ago
Anonymous
EVEN WHEN HAKAI IS ALREADY ON SOMEONE we see it slowly dissolve them, so it definitely crosses distance. You fricking moron.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>EVEN WHEN HAKAI IS ALREADY ON SOMEONE we see it slowly dissolve them
moron. It only worked slower on Fused Zamasu due to his regen/immortality. Everyone else died instantly.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Not him but >Everyone else died instantly
Zamasu when Beerus erased him wasn't immortal.
6 months ago
Anonymous
And he died instantly moron. You dumbfrick.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Because the effect is dissolving them? Stop trying to push your weird Hakai travel headcanon when it has never been shown like that. None of what you post proves hakai crosses distance. Meaningless anyways, because Goku has telekinesis.
6 months ago
Anonymous
You literally see the hakai going from one part of the body travelling to the other, meaning it crosses distance. This is consistent both in the manga
Being used as a projectile =/= hakai itself not needing to touch someone
We're talking about the god ki, not the user. We literally see the Hakai itself having to slowly dissolve bodies everytime it's used, meaning it's travelling on the body to get from one side to the other. Hakai requires distance therefore it's never getting through infinity.
And the anime.
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Hell characters can even talk while in the midst of getting Hakai'd, so yeah the god ki has to envelop the body part to dissolve it, aka it's travelling from one part of the body to the other. Hakai still needs to travel. So it's gonna get stuck in infinity and never touch Gojo.
6 months ago
Anonymous
That doesn't mean it's traveling, moron. That's a property of the body dissolving
There's never been a magical hakai projectile. This is literally just your headcanon.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>doesn't mean it's travelling
How? It literally has to get from one body part to another. Why doesn't it just dissolve the entire body instantly? Because it's travelling, the god ki still has to travel and make contact to dissolve something. It's why Hakai got punched through. Why everytime Hakai it's used the death is NEVER instant, the Hakai has to envelop the body parts and get to the other ones meaning it's crossing distance. It will get stuck in infinity.
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You brown mongoloid. Only Fused Zamasu was dissolving like a pill die to his immortality. Every other instance, it was instant kill.
>Only Fused Zamasu was dissolving
Beerus Hakaing the ghost also dissolved like a pill , moron. Even fricking buildings dissolve like a pill, those don't have immortality. Tired of debunking all your shit arguments and never getting anything back in return. I will just take this as a concession since you just ignore BOTH the anime and manga for your headcanon.
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6 months ago
Anonymous
It's not "traveling through the body", this is literal headcanon cope you just made up.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>anime showed that Hakai instantly appears on the target and starts destroying from within
Even worse for Gojo. Like a more lethal Bang.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Zamasu literally has god-tier regen. Anyone else is done instantly.
6 months ago
Anonymous
that was moreso Zam dragging in Mai to make Goku stop from killing her too. Also at the time, it was the first time Goku had ever even done a hakai, which he himself says is nothing like the kind Beerus can do. MUI Goku is so good that even Beerus gives him proper respect
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Aiming at something doesn't prove that Hakai needs to travel
And it also doesn't disprove it doesn't travel. We have seen more instances of it needing to get to the enemy than the contrary. Hakai got punched through. If it was instant there wouldn't be travel.
6 months ago
Anonymous
There are more intances of Hakai being used without touching something/someone.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Being used as a projectile =/= hakai itself not needing to touch someone
We're talking about the god ki, not the user. We literally see the Hakai itself having to slowly dissolve bodies everytime it's used, meaning it's travelling on the body to get from one side to the other. Hakai requires distance therefore it's never getting through infinity.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Your cope headcanon is pathetic. None of that proves Hakai is traveling.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Hakai literally shown having to travel from one body part to another instead of instantly dissolving the entire body
The manga and anime disagree with you. You seem to have no more comebacks though. I accept your concession.
6 months ago
Anonymous
That doesn't mean it's traveling through your body. That's literally something you made up. Feel free to flee, seems like you're ready.
Goku just kills Gojo inside of his own domain, It's a dead end for him because none of his attacks can actually kill Goku besides UV's brain melting capabilities, but using it means he is vulnerable to be punched to death by ultra instinct Goku.
If superman can fly at speeds even remotely close to the flash then he can literally out infinite limitless and one tap Gojo
Death Battle gets its small budget from Rooster Teeth, who are owned by Warner. For obvious reasons there must be a bias for certain brands. Otherwise, we wouldn't have gotten 3 RWBY Death Battles or RWBYxJL crossover movies.
RvB and RWBY are not mainstream enough to deserve Death Battles, honestly.
Echidna is a 30 ft tall(at time of death) , rapidly regenerating chimeric mass of human flesh, animal flesh, and alien flesh with her previous human form existing atop from the waist up plus multiple giant animal/human limbs and heads with elongated tongues/tentacles for snatching prey. She can speak and see/sense through this mixxed bag of body parts. Projectile vomitting and screaming all the way.
Her primary ability is to clone any living thing on contact with her for a minute or so, from bacteria to animals to humans. She passively absorbs living things like quicksand, containing them within individual 'wombs' to process and create as many clones as she'd like. All the clones come out bigger, stronger, sometimes mutated, evil, and generally loyal to Echidna's command. Powers are copied as well and also benefit from the boost, sometimes changing in some way.
Dead biomass is added to her body and enhance her physical size.
She can also shapeshift slightly, dissolving her bones and such to become more like jello and to move inorganic objects through her.
Nolan can't beat Superman.
The moment Nolan does something like shatter that plane full of innocent people, serious Clark will come out and the kid gloves come off.
Eh...what? This wasn't the main DC Universe, this was Braniac with Impeirex being brought outside the universe witha Boomtube to create the universe. The DC Universe doesn't have an abnormal expansion rate or anything like that.
because it isn't infinite and they always backtrack and assign finite values to said "infinite". They just say it to make things sound hype like muh gorillion decibals that cant destroy buildings.
Learn to read, Pablo, an x value increasing indefinitely =/= already established infinite value, our universe is also infinitely expanding, but it's finite in size.
The universe in DB has a center and edge.
Infinite spaces don't have centers or edges, that contradicts the meaning of it.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The centre is omnipresent and edges are formed by the limit as x approaches infinity, mathlet.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The idea of a center being omnipresent contradicts only 1 center being in dragon ball, otherwise there will be no point in addressing it in the show or making it an objective in finding it.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The center is the place where the big bang happened. Where the universe started expanding.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Cool, our universe also isn't infinite, and is expanding, point being?
And infinities cannot expand.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Infinity expands into more infinity. It is all infinite. Like the DB verse.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Contradiction, infinity is an absolute thing, it doesn't grow because it's always large, it is not a gazillion growing into gorillion like you imagine.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>infinites cannot grow >they go on forever
Yup. Yup.
6 months ago
Anonymous
There is a center
Everything expands out from the center
I like to pretend I'm one even though all I know about Bleach comes from debating.
Where's a Bleach episodo tho? Or One Piece?!! Meanwhile they give TWO to Dragon Ball. That's One fricking logic
didn't the last 2 fights both establish that Superman's max power is infinite and regardless what power up Goku gets, Superman will always be stronger?
whats the point of this?
>But the god ki still needs to travel to the victim and there's no proof showing otherwise
It doesn't need to travel. It ignores distance. Gojo is dead. Even if Gojo activated his domain, Goku can break out of it. Gotenks and Buu screamed out of a dimension in Z, Super Goku is much more powerful.
What travel? He had to get close to him to use it.
Hakai is literally travelling in that gif, across the body. If it was truly instant, the dissolving process would be instant and the hakai energy wouldn't need to slowly travel from one part to the other. Jesus
Since itsjustsomerandomguy is MIA, wonder if they'll make the new voice hace supes sound more like he does in the DCEU, DCAU, or hell MAWS since that was in the teaser.
Why do people desperately want to see them fight? Goku and Superman have reach power levels where they can destroy entire solar systems, if they wanted to. They reached a point where their powers are so OP, the only thing limiting how powerful they can become is based on the writer. Don't get why people are hang up about how powerful these characters are when DC and Toriyama both admit their characters are strong as the story requires.
It's varies depending on the story. This is especially jarring because Supes and Goku live in different universes with different laws of physics. Ki in DB doesn't work the same way in the DC universe.
DB characters have brute forced through conceptual babble multiple times. Unless your character is Goku tier without any gimmicks to start with, it's useless.
That wasn’t the point I was making. Hakai wouldn’t work on Superman because he has survived attacks that would normally erase someone frome reality. Even if he’s knocked out, he still exists.
If Superman gets knocked out by a Hakai, he is still at a big disadvantage.
6 months ago
Anonymous
True. But he tanks them more often than he gets knocked out by them, so it shouldn’t be an issue.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Reminder that Hakai wouldn’t work on Superman since he can tank Darkseid’s Omega Beams that do the exact same thing.
Depends.
This makes no sense.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Except Omega Beam's effect and power literally depends on the writer/run. Sure, there are runs where he can take them, but there are also runs when they pose a problem to him.
Goku has been inside an orb of destruction energy specifically meant to kill him or his final team member (Golden Frieza, who he's certainly above at the end of ToP). He can totally resist destruction
by blowing it away. Overpowering. Hell, Frieza just does it with his bare hands while Golden, he's talking mad shit about Goku who's having to do it in base. Keep in mind that as far as Blue and Golden are, they're dead even with the fight we see right after this
The fight will be 5 minutes long.
Superman will win.
Only SSG, SSB, and Ultra Instinct will be used in the animation.
The “death” will be a fakeout with Goku simply passing out to not upset Dragon Ball fans.
Reasoning will be Superman having better stats.
Finale is Galactus vs Unicron.
Two weeks.
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Yeah. Describe details about the previews or something. Or something in the fight preview.
The Episode will be 26-27 minutes long with the analysis being more extensive than usual
Michael Kovach will be reprising his role as Goku after voicing him in Gogeta vs Vegito
Fight starts with Goku asking Superman for a sparring match similar to the original
Superman will be voiced by Paul Guyet
Cutaway Gag in Goku’s analysis involves Boomstick using the Dragon Balls and fusing with Wiz as a callback to last seasons finale.
Unsurprisingly Liam will be cowriting the episode along with Ben
I think the guys at death battle just wanted to update their Superman Vs Goku episode, this debate will always exist so they want to have a shiny new animation and a good analysis for non DB watchers to see every time they watch videos about it.
Also it's likely the result will be the same as before but now they won't sugarcoat Goku's defeat, and won't use the "muh infinite" argument. They will just treat it like any other episode and say "superman wins because here, here, and here, he did this thing that is equivalent to X magnitude and that's more than what Goku did here, here, and here."
Doing research on Ultraman's murderous cousin and he presents an interesting powerscaling question.
The expanded lore for Redman (yes, there is lore) states that he fights the reanimated monsters of other heroes brought back to life again and again by the same vague evil forces that destroyed his home planet. Given the ease at which he dispatches monsters like Zetton, does this mean Redman > Ultraman, or given that the revived monsters never demonstrate the powers and abilities of their previous selves, do we discount Redman fodderizing them?
I just found out the manga adaptation of Vs. Iris has him get decapitated. He literally just gets back up and kills Iris without his head before fricking off to fight the Hyper Gyaos swam
Honestly if Death Battle wasn't just a show about strength and speed feats, Goku could easily take out Superman. He knows Supes' weaknesses, but Goku's character flaw prevents him from exploiting them, and since Death Battle already pointed out that Supes' has no limits to his power and Goku wants to fight him at his best, this is effectively just a means for Goku to test out his new found abilities until he dies, then revives and fricks off until the next few power ups.
>a series that's not even been brought back yet
vs >some weeb series from machinima or some shit >a game series that was only remembered for a meme, then the meme spawned a shit remake >a series that's getting the disney live action treatment
Got it, Street Sharks has no relevance in the modern day
Mattel literally just said they're brining them back for their big 30th. And bullshit, not everyone can get a halloween costume. Dragonzord never had a halloween costume.
Revival's next year dude, you got about a month. And it's pointing to them crossing over with the turtles officially. >several sharks and villains appeared in Draxum's yokai vision, even Bullzeye and Badrap from extreme dinosaurs where there, in Rise of the TMNT >Playmates and Viacom are down with doing crossovers: MOO Mesa, Batman/DC, Power Rangers, Ghost Busters, He-man >The He-Man crossover has Mattel and Playmates on very good terms. >Mattel has been saying they're bringing back the street sharks since August. >next year's their 30th
6 months ago
Anonymous
And the TMNT connections run deeper >The guy who molded the Street Sharks and Extreme Dinosaur toys did the villain molds for Playmates TMNT line, including Shredder, Krang, Traag, Scaleface and Scratch >Both had Archie Comic runs >Both where in a cross promotion with Chef Boyardee >kids in 1993 where turtled out, the third movie was trash, the red sky era of the cartoon was lacking, then Street Sharks came along and vanished when Saban made Next Mutation >There's a reason Super Duper Fly didn't have any sharks on him when his mutating gun went off in the ocean in Mutant Mayhem
>a series that's not even been brought back yet
vs >some weeb series from machinima or some shit >a game series that was only remembered for a meme, then the meme spawned a shit remake >a series that's getting the disney live action treatment
Is it some moron spamming Nikocado Avacado and something about an 'ass void'? Lopibats? Is it the Gamera wiener sucker? You gotta be specific here, this place generates a lot of tards.
Both go to Supes. He was actually there for his son(s), and Goku isn't interested in hanging out if it doesn't pertain to training, and normal humans (esp irl) are so weak that it wouldn't even popup on his radar. You could at least chat with Supes and get his interests, and he's so fast with dealing with problems (aside from world destruction) that he could feasibly solve them in less than a minute so its not like you'll be missing anything if he has to answer something real quick while you're hanging out
pretty certain it's suit. They could have absolutely been bullshitting with the Light vs Columbo thing, but otherwise I honestly don't know what would be finale worthy while pertaining to suits. Maye Harvey Birdman vs Phoenix Wright
Considering the suit symbol is probably the one remaining its either gonna be Persona VS Jojo or Columbo match since they've been spamming easter eggs of him all season
My prediction, Death Battle lets Goku win on this one and every single DBZ-weebs will skree and wail saying "See, See, we told you our chad Goku could beat your fricking limp-dicked Kal-El!"
It comes down to Yujiro and Goku. While Goku is an extremely skilled martial artist, Yujiro slam dunks him in that regard by not only knowing virtually every martial art, but also replicating moves/techniques after only seeing them once. He's even stated that the only reason he doesn't use them more often was simply because of his strength, so its not like taking that away is even a handicap for him.
Well Saitama is dead last, given it was literally a plot point in the manga that he was so inept at actual technique that he joined a martial arts tournament to see some, only to not retain any of it and learn nothing.
He can't be worse than Eren, he trained wit that Titan slaying militia but I remember him being dog shit at it, and besides the maneuvering with the wire thing and using swords he never showed any proficiency at hand to hand combat (even when he was trained for that)
Denji also lacks any formal training, but at least he has that "street dog" energy, he would likely bite you in the balls if you give him the opportunity
>Denji
None of them are probably great fighters without their main fighting styles relying on their powers but I feel like Denji would go for a move like biting off their balls or something
>Goku
Saitama has no real skill, don't know enough about Eren but I'm certain Goku is taking this one
>Gojo or Toji
Gojo was beating Sukuna pure hand to hand, Toji's a bigger guy but probably less overall skilled. If it came down purely to skill and nothing else I'd lean Gojo
>I feel like Denji would go for a move like biting off their balls or something
Luffy used Arlong's own teeth to bite him back, and bit half of Crocodile's body off during their first fight. So if we're judging by 'willingness to use underhanded tactics,' Luffy applies.
Plus he's still a competent enough fighter without his devil fruit. He doesn't have any real technique but he thinks creatively at least.
All of them are underhanded enough to go for a bite but Denji might as well be an animal. Hell he's eaten a person before. I'd take getting into a fight with a somewhat skilled average guy than an insane cannibal.
I mean wouldn't that be a point against Denji then?
This is about actual hand-to-hand fighting skill. You're basically just saying Denji would ape out without any technique.
I assumed this was about them in an random fight with no powers, if this was some contained martial arts match with rules then yes I would give it to Luffy
Goku loses hard in his row.
Dbz “martial arts” are a complete joke and just a pseudonym for their power system of flying about in the air shooting laser beams at each other and yelling. They’ve got no basis in reality. They don’t guard, they don’t kick, 90% of their melee is just swinging their arms at eachother like chimps without moving their body. Goku as well has relied on his superpowers to coast by his entire life since he was a baby, he’s never learned how to throw a punch that relies on shifting your bodyweight instead of your magic kai-chi-energy giving you magic saiyan super strength with nothing to do with your mass.
Eren’s not bullshit like Mikasa or Levi but he’s formally trained in hand to hand combat, and his author thankfully is one of the few that studies actual fighting for when his characters are throwing fists.
Ever see one of those /gif/ fight vids where one guy suplexes the other and he has no idea how to get out of a clinch before his skull smacks the ground?That’s the kind of stomp we’re looking at here
I have, and I know BJJ as well, but I'll give you a chance to prove Goku knows even the slightest bit about fighting:
Here's Eren applying a Triangle Armbar on Reiner.
What fighting technique does Goku know to escape this submission hold, and when has he used it?
Hint: Yelling and Crying louder for a powerup is not an escape technique.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>BJJ
Pfft! Ya might as well say knowing Tai Chi counts
6 months ago
Anonymous
>BJJ
Kek. The worst martial art. Wrestling shits on all day. Only b***hes train BJJ
So you can't?
Thanks for admitting then, that Goku (and you) know zero (0) real life combat.
Scissored Armbars are used in wrestling too, not that you're aware of this.
6 months ago
Anonymous
?si=uH3v0Z0lZVFowo9M
BJJ is literally for b***hes. Any decent wrestler folds a top BJJ guy.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Good thing Eren knows wrestling moves,
and Goku only knows the "scream and cry harder" move
6 months ago
Anonymous
>SHITku babble >admits that BJJ gays get folded by wrestlers
God, I would break you. Even boxing gays aren't that annoying.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I seriously doubt your keyboard warrior e-LARP, but I seriously don't care. Wrestling is much more important to MMA than jiu jitsu, that's just a fact, I had to learn wrestling moves too. most ufc fighters come from wrestling. I got no tribewar with that
6 months ago
Anonymous
I just dislike BJJ fanatics. Whenever I see a BJJ tournament and a dude is on his back inviting the other dude to engage him, shit just makes me laugh. I just keep thinking how a good soccer kick in a real situation would end that shit real good. Wrestling and kickboxing is enough for most people.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Yujiro said it was an unbeatable move. Ali Jr. A hyper jobber beat it by walking away.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Define "beating". Ali Jr is first and foremost a sportsman, he lacks actual killer intent or will that the other core fighters have. He sees Yujiro's move as basically throwing the match, like an "I give up", when in actuality, trying to approach Yujiro of all people with the move could very well be a death sentence. Yuj wanted to see if Ali's unique style could actually answer the situation, but Jr doesn't actually consider their fight anything other than "a match"
6 months ago
Anonymous
why don't people just focus on being all-rounders? Like become proficient enough in grappling either with mma/bjj/wrestling, get good striking from boxing or muay thai, and I guess maybe decent kicking from karate or something. You don't need to learn literally everything from each of them if you're gonna trim the fat anyways
6 months ago
Anonymous
Tribalism/representing the other tribe/martial art. I don't really give a frick. Wrestling and a little bit of boxing mixed with calisthenics/weight tranining is good enough for me.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Because some people are terrified of actually fighting. BJJ still does the 'beat anyone of any size without having to fight' narrative that appeals to a lot of...For a lack of a better way of saying...Weak people. They super internalize that and become rabid when you suggest their worldview is actually dangerously incorrect.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>BJJ still does the 'beat anyone of any size without having to fight' narrative that appeals to a lot of...For a lack of a better way of saying...Weak people. They super internalize that and become rabid when you suggest their worldview is actually dangerously incorrect.
A lot of people have main characters syndrome and don’t wanna do something that will take a lot of work from the body.
6 months ago
Anonymous
All-round is for actual self-defense
Tribalism happens when you compete and your instructors only want to teach you one way to prove theirs is the bestest ever. Anything else is admitting they're not the best
6 months ago
Anonymous
Tribalism/representing the other tribe/martial art. I don't really give a frick. Wrestling and a little bit of boxing mixed with calisthenics/weight tranining is good enough for me.
Real answer. Tribalism, like everything else. Just do what you want and don't be a smartass about it.
6 months ago
Anonymous
BJJ is hard-focused on the ground fight. Fanatics want the fight to go into grappling immediately because otherwise they have to admit you can't learn just grapples and nothing else.
People always call wrestling gay because of that but at least you have to do takedowns before you're both rubbing breasts
6 months ago
Anonymous
>People always call wrestling gay because of that but at least you have to do takedowns before you're both rubbing breasts
Man, wrestling is pure fun. Just your will against another man's. It is the best sport for developing strenght, flexibility and endurance. God, I still enjoy watching Karelin's old matches.
6 months ago
Anonymous
For anyone not in the know, this guy has a PHD, a law degree, and is a Russian Senator.
He was undefeated world champion for 13 years
6 months ago
Anonymous
God. You should have mentioned more. His record is 887 wins and 2 loses by a SINGLE FRICKING POINT!!! His nickname was the EXPERIMENT. I truly believe that nobody could and can rival Karelin in his prime. Dude was a machine.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Death Battle between him and Senator Armstrong, now
6 months ago
Anonymous
His PHD is literally how to defend a suplex. What a fricking god.
6 months ago
Anonymous
God. UFC 1 shilling Gracie and BJJ ruined BJJ. Greco-Roman or Freestyle wrestling is so much better than BJJ. Would have been better if wrestling was shilled like BJJ.
6 months ago
Anonymous
True martial arts are all about, in my eyes, the ability to control the situation better than your opponent. If you can "Work with" your opponent, so to speak, then you win. Always having a way out of a position, always having a way to control what position your foe is in, etc.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Goku knows how to fight
6 months ago
Anonymous
He knows how to "anime" fight, not real fight.He doesn't even guard his face, he's asking for instant braindamage.
6 months ago
Anonymous
He does
6 months ago
Anonymous
No he doesn't. He does a silly chinese horse stance to reference Bruce Lee movies (with his fingers making a crab claw because he thinks its cool, which irl would just get them grabbed and twisted off).
He has never, not once, put his hands into fists and protected his forehead like an actual fighter would know to do. He is wide and open at all times to getting a preordered concussion
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Mad at his attempt at a humble brag was shut down
Couldn’t even do actual jiu jiutsu
6 months ago
Anonymous
>BJJ
Kek. The worst martial art. Wrestling shits on all day. Only b***hes train BJJ
6 months ago
Anonymous
>bjj
6 months ago
Anonymous
Weirdly enough, I think the only example of somebody mentioned semi-frequently in these threads getting in a triangle armbar and getting out of it is Kiryu Kazuma.
https://youtu.be/EAJ2vt8wUbY?si=uH3v0Z0lZVFowo9M
BJJ is literally for b***hes. Any decent wrestler folds a top BJJ guy.
This is a pretty interesting and nuanced video. He starts out at the beginning trying to figure out how to just stand up while getting grappled and determines that it's really darn hard to do. His experience is more that entering a competition with certain expectations (BJJ, grappling on the ground) and then not doing them is a good way to cause frustration and confusion. Ultimately, he does have to grapple to finish his fight, and his conclusion is less that BJJ is useless and more that you really don't want your first move in a fight to be going to the ground.
On that subject, Forest Griffith actually wrote about an experience he had fighting somebody outside a bar. It was an easy win for him, he tackled him to the ground and choked him out without the other guy landing a punch... And ended up bruising up his back in the process of rolling around on a parking lot.
why don't people just focus on being all-rounders? Like become proficient enough in grappling either with mma/bjj/wrestling, get good striking from boxing or muay thai, and I guess maybe decent kicking from karate or something. You don't need to learn literally everything from each of them if you're gonna trim the fat anyways
MMA's pretty great!
6 months ago
Anonymous
Not true, Scott Voss, Here Comes the Boom
6 months ago
Anonymous
>getting in a triangle armbar and getting out of it is Kiryu Kazuma
Based Dragon of Dojima
Goku loses hard in his row.
Dbz “martial arts” are a complete joke and just a pseudonym for their power system of flying about in the air shooting laser beams at each other and yelling. They’ve got no basis in reality. They don’t guard, they don’t kick, 90% of their melee is just swinging their arms at eachother like chimps without moving their body. Goku as well has relied on his superpowers to coast by his entire life since he was a baby, he’s never learned how to throw a punch that relies on shifting your bodyweight instead of your magic kai-chi-energy giving you magic saiyan super strength with nothing to do with your mass.
Eren’s not bullshit like Mikasa or Levi but he’s formally trained in hand to hand combat, and his author thankfully is one of the few that studies actual fighting for when his characters are throwing fists.
Ever see one of those /gif/ fight vids where one guy suplexes the other and he has no idea how to get out of a clinch before his skull smacks the ground?That’s the kind of stomp we’re looking at here
Erin might survive if he desperately tries to grapple but if we're equal in terms of "Everyone's strength is proportional to their size/muscles" then Yujiro wins.
are there any particular mysteries either from comics or manga that L likely couldn't solve? Could he solve the Kira case from JoJo, or the identity of the Joker, etc
Unsure, Morioh was besieged by numerous disappearances for about a decade or so, so he'd probably narrow down the likely age group. If the disappearances are all women, its more than likely a man. He was already keen on tracking Light even using helicopters and such, so it's likely he'd use any means to increase surveillance in Morioh as best he could until he found some pattern. Becuase he's also a shut-in, even if Kira suspects that there is someone specially seeking him out, he doesn't know who it is to kill with KQ, nor would he be able to try and find him without arousing suspicion. Whether L could discern factors like Kira being wealthy, or being a businessman is up in the air, but I wouldn't say if it's impossible if Jotaro was able to narrow it down with a literal button and one view of his jacket.
I mean that's almost exactly the same as the Yoshikage Kira case. Dude literally only got found out because his sandwich bag got stolen by a dog, or that Shigechi somehow defied death to take a suit-button. He would have never been caught if plot shit didn't happen
It wasn't impossible. Light left a trail, and wasn't as smart as people thought he was. Despite what people want to believe L isn't some magical anti-kira device
He was robbed. Spider-Man scaling alone gives him the win. That doesn’t even account his own feats that should have let him survive anything Lucy could throw at him. One of the biggest screwjobs in the show.
Fun question: What would be the most nothing finale they could possibly have? Like, such a waste of a slot that you forget about it 10 minutes after its announced?
I'd be really agitated if it was Light vs Columbo, so I wouldn't call that a fight you'd "forget about it 10 minutes after its announced." All that's coming to mind is a fight with characters who've been on the show more than once or a run-of-the-mill Marvel vs DC fight.
Wrestling for street fights, judo isn’t something you really wanna pull out, because it’s just not designed for tsomething like concrete or asphalt when you do a throw.
I can't wait for them to get on their knees and admit they were lying. Superman fans have only had this fight to hold up for the last decade. Soon they'll an hero.
yeah nah that's not gonna work here
no one here tries to act like the newer seasons are worth watching and pretend that it is
just stick to the older stuff
I pity all the low-level chuds cheering for RTD's return to who.
He was always a sex pervert, but was reined in by new series being unsure in its continution
are there ANY marvel vs DC fights that are still interesting?
i legit think the last one they could do that anyone would care about is Black Cat vs Catwoman
>i legit think the last one they could do that anyone would care about is Black Cat vs Catwoman
It's going to flop harder than Harley vs Jinx and Spider-Gwen vs Batgirl. As I have said before, they are never surpassing Goku when it comes to male characters and Bayo when it comes to females. Even freaking Rebecca Black and ponies did better than any DB featuring a capeshit female.
Define interesting. Street level fights? There's a bunch of Batfamily vs assorted Marvels, such as Scarecrow vs Mysterio, Damian vs X-23, and Azreal vs Moon Knight. There's some relatively higher level fights like War Machine vs Steel, Hank Henshaw vs Beta Ray Bill, and Alan Scott vs Jim Hammond. And there's the high end crazy shit like Batkek vs God-Emperor Doom.
honestly i think street level fights would be interesting, nowadays its just OMNIGIGAULTRAMEGA level and 9999999999999999999999999999 times past the speed of light
>are there ANY marvel vs DC fights that are still interesting?
Based on characters alone I don't think there is much left.
Marvel still has some interesting choices like Kamala, misterio, Reed Richards, maybe even bring Miles again, but most Matchups I see for them are against non DC characters.
DC still got plastic man, Siniestro (if somebody cares about him), hawk girl (if somebody cares about her), Catwoman, maybe some alternative flash that has an actual personality, scarecrow, and cyborg.
The only one I see could deliver a decent episode is Mysterio vs Scarecrow, Reed Vs plastic man is a waste for both characters, and the match up you said is literally Catwoman Vs literal who.
The main problem with Marvel Vs DC is the fricking Mirror matches. The only decently entertaining Capeshit episodes, Omnilander, Ironbats, Wantanna, either have charismatic characters (Homelander, omniman, Tony), a good clash of powers that are not the exact same (Iron man and batman), or at the very least make the characters use their powers in a entertaining way (Zantanna)
I would be more interested in something random like Ant man Vs mister fantastic than Any man vs atom or plastic man Vs Reed Richards, at least that way you can argue about how their shit would interact or Clash
dragonballgays should accept it then that Goku's not a skilled martial artist. All he knows is flailing his arms like a little kid until either he or the bad guy tire out from 1 billion tiny punches
Itadori Yuji..
Barely any connections, he should fight Geto or Jogo
Superman_.
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Sandman #50 Ramadan is a pretty good comic. Use that.
Characters this season that beat Gojo
>No diff tier
Discord
Bill cypher
Raven
Phoenix
Frieza
Megatron
The doctor
Silver Surfer
Martian manhunter
Courage
Scooby
Son Goku
Clark Kent
>Low diff tier
Ant man (can possibly tank UV because scientist supreme brain, also ants lack CE so he can just kill Gojo with ants inside his domain)
Stitch (super brain tanks UV and just kills Gojo inside his domain)
Rick Sanchez (could possibly tank UV for a moment and the portal gun can bypass Limitless easily)
Vader (force ends the battle almost instantly and defends him against UV)
>Mid diff tier
Obito (kamui bypasses limitless and Gojo can't do shit against Rikudo)
Dovahkiin (soul frickery alone kills Gojo, but he has like 10 other ways to do it)
Chosen Undead (Outclasses Gojo in almost all aspects, and even if he lacks ways around his Hax eventually Gojo would succumb from exhaustion)
Characters this season Gojo beats
>High diff tier
Makima
>Mid diff tier
Rocket Raccoon (guns can decimate Gojo inside his domain but otherwise can't bypass Limitless)
Alex Mercer (sorcerers are weak against viruses, but besides that Gojo can kill him before getting infected)
Cole (faster and has a Wincon with the energy absorption, but can't bypass Limitless or UV)
>Low diff tier
Misaka Mikoto (would surprise Gojo with speed, but can't hurt him)
Killua (same as Misaka but worse)
Atom (I don't think he can survive UV or bypass Limitless)
Dimitri (unless he can cast magic directly inside his opponents he lacks any way to hurt Gojo, let alone survive his attacks)
>No diff tier
Guts (can't really do anything against Gojo)
Why do you post this every fricking thread
This is listroon tier
true honestly
as much as i dislike ratjo the fact that most characters this season body him is apparent
I don’t even dislike Gojo, just the one homosexual here that attention prostitutes with him.
that's what I meant by ratjo too
no problem with the character but the fanboys that obsessively shill him are annoying
Gojo butt-broke him.
>Never had lover and started a family unlike SUPERBASED and GODKU
Sad life for Dead/Jo
had lover
KISSLESSku never knew love either, besides for his grandpa's balls.
... In my fantasies. In reality, it was Gojo's ass that got destroyed by Sukuna.
>died a virgin
Kek.
At least his corpse's lower half got some love from Sukuna.
They all beat the shit out of Alien X.
Before this thread goes insane I just want to ask an actual legitimate question
Why the frick do you guys care about this? Who the frick is death battle that you guys care to this level? Im legitimately confused as to why you guys give a frick.
You're on a board for cartoons and comics you fricking moron.
It’s fun.
It’s just DB gays, they take power scaling and their entire universe too seriously. The fricking creator himself treats it as a joke and parody.
Did you not read the sign?
Because the animations are amusing
it's literally one of the only few non-woke mediums online right now
Can we get some woke matchups?
Like rwby vs High Guardian Spice.
>poison vs Bridget
The guy who submitted that to the ballot really did think that matchup through.
>rope-like weapons
Luz vs Anne
Death Battle is run by morons that have been using the most grade school moronic logic for a fair while now. Despite that though, they still have some level of sway in powergay circles and the autistic fanbases that care about that.
So its mostly used as a means of trolling said fanbases whenever their favorite loses and watching them explode which can be funny. Also the fight animations and music can be entertaining occasionally
I made the wrong choices in life and now I'm too autistic to leave these threads.
It's fun. The same reason I go to any Cinemaphile thread just to read anons argue about off topic shit, but here at least sometimes I find some interesting discussions.
Me personally?
I just like watching the fight animations.
I personally don't give a frick about how wins or not. I skip all the pre-fight commentary and ads, I watch the fight, I then skip the post fight analysis, and only watch the last 20 seconds to see the next match up.
And in the event I don't know either character, I just skip it.
That said I much prefer villains fighting each other over heroes. Dracula vs Ganondorf is still one of mu favorites for that reason.
DeathBattles are the premier authority in character vs character crossover battles.
Basically if you want to write an accurate fanfic on characters from different properties, you have to watch DeathBattle.
Which research team member are you
the biggest thing DB has going for them is that they make animations for their fights with VAs, ost, the works, all topped off with decent deaths and not just "character falls down defeated". If they didn't have that, no one would give a shit about them. It's why people got semi-hyped when SeththeCuckgrammer was gonna animate Naruto vs Ichigo with a decent runtime of like 10 minutes
Seth was never going to animate it, he was just paying for the thing.
Surfbone is the animator and tbe guy is still active and looking for a solution to get the shit finished.
>Seth was never going to animate it, he was just paying for the thing.
yeah sorry thats what I meant. It was still a very anticipated project but ultimately fell under because Seth got greedy
It's WWE but for Fandom geeks.
I just think it’s fun. It stops being fun when taken too seriously.
>Hello, Ms. Makima
>I'm The Doctor
THE IMP OF THE PANDORICA
THE SHADOW OF THE VALEYARD
THE BEAST OF TRENZALORE
THE BUTCHER OF SKULLMOON
THE LAST TREE OF GARSENNON
THE DESTROYER OF SKARO
THE ONCOMING STORM
HE IS THE DOCTOR OF WAR
>Gojo
>Gojo is a nameless fish
>Takaba created a scenario where he tried to revive a dead fish last chapter
Gege...
Why is she so perfect?
Add Wondergays to the list of obnoxious c**ts.
It's just the one singular wondercuck
Not even kid Goku tier
Cape shit is inconsistantly written, but so is Dragonball.
It's what happens when your story is ongoing for decades with no end.
>3 Death Battles forced by DC corporate shilling
>All of them flopped compared to Toph, Bayo, and Tifa's.
>Just like her 2nd movie and comics.
I still don't buy that people legitimately like this character. I never see anyone passionately discussing her, unless she's used as a tool by DCgays to shit on Thor. A MU she should have lost, by the way.
>3 Death Battles forced by DC corporate shilling
3? I just remember 2 (Vs Thor and Vs She Ra) what is the 3rd?
>unless she's used as a tool by DCgays to shit on Thor
Why wondie specifically? Just because she is a god princess?
I always thought Thor shared more similarities with Shazam.
Her character is too inconsistent to actually be a fan of, I like her concept and general aesthetics, some versions of her are shit but others are very enjoyable.
Fine, 2 Death Battles made under DC bias. Her first DB, the one she lost, was made when DB wasn't obligated to make DC look good.
I wish she got writers who liked her and give her cool cosmic/mytho stories.
>>All of them flopped compared to Toph, Bayo, and Tifa's.
tfw Bayo vs Dante will never get fixed...
Wait, those three fights are incorrect! Not just WW vs Thor.
>
>Not even flinching
Diana is so awesome bros...
>man face
KWAB!
>composite superman is being used
RIP Gokek
Shit forgot pic
anon, they've verbatem stated they were using Infinite Froniter, which made everything canon. We've known this since like last monday
>researching all year only for Goku to win
Funny.
More research = greater likelihood of Goku winning
leave goku to me owo
so this discounts Strange Visitor and Milkman Supes doesn't it?
wait what about All-Star Superman
>What about non-canon Superman who OD on sunlight
Goku would hospitalize him with a quick tap on the neck.
>SV Superman is literally a non-canon what-if vision which contradicts the mythos
>Milkman Man is non-canonical and got BTFO by regular Wonder Woman.
Goku wins.
None of Goku or Superman's attacks can get past infinity.
Superman lifted a book with infinite pages once
No he didn't. Did you even read that comic? He failed to lift it. Show me where he successfully lifted it. And you might even be talking about Ultraman.
Not to mention Ultraman got to the end of the book which means...
Goku has IT and telekinesis and superior speed
>Goku instant transmissions close to Gojo
>There is still infinity between them
Gojo literally shows you can be close to touching fingertips with him and there's still infinity in between. Instant transmission is useless.
>superior speed
Gojo physically dodged a Domain Expansion mechanic called "Guaranteed Hit" which is instant and has no startup time. Gojo has faster reaction speed than Goku so he can dodge any physical attack.
Goku can instantly transmit his hand to Gojo's throat
Goku is faster
And besides, telekinesis
>Goku can instantly transmit his hand to Gojo's throat
Has a single villain or character in Dragon ball done that? Instant transmission always teleported you right next to the target
Hakai and Mafuba. Goku doesn't even need to touch Gojo to hakai him.
>Hakai
Even Jobgeta punched through it. Just like every attack it gets stuck in the unlimited space never harming Gojo.
>Mafuba
Can't get past infinity, users can miss with it meaning it has a tangible quality to it and isn't just sticking to the victim upon startup.
The arms that sealed gojo were also tangible and yet, he was still sealed.
Hakai doesn't need to travel. Destruction energy can be used as a projectile or like an attack that ignores distance. Goku used it on Zamasu without touching him in the manga.
Don't bother, the Gojotard has this made up headcanon about how the Mai humans shield somehow proves Hakai has travel time
You have prove that Hakai does NOT have travel time? Because literally everytime we see it needs to actually attach itself to the opponent and it even failed many times. Even Vegeta punched through it. There's more evidence showing it needs to travel and there's zero evidence to the contrary.
Gojo turned off infinity to not kill the innocent civilians so that's not really getting past it, it just wasn't turned on intentionally at the time.
>without touching
But the god ki still needs to travel to the victim and there's no proof showing otherwise. Everytime we've seen it used the glow has to get to the enemy and that thing will just get stuck in infinity.
>instantly transmit his hand
Goku has never detached his hand and even if he did there will still be infinity between it and Gojo. There will always be infinity between Gojo and whatever no matter how close you get.
>is faster
Gojo reacted to instant which is the fastest. He's much faster than Goku in reaction speed. Goku is faster in travel speed but that's meaningless with infinity.
>Gojo reacted to instant
Scans?
Anyways, he can just IT with his hand directly grabbing Gojo
Gojo doesn't need to react, Infinity is automatic.
I'm talking about this supossed instant reaction feat you brought up. Post it.
Jogo failed his instant hit on Gojo. When someone opens a domain there's a mechanic called "guaranteed hit"/"can't miss" attack which is instant and has no startup time. It literally just appears already on the enemy and yet Gojo reacted to it. Gojo has faster reaction speed than Goku. Hell Goku's instant transmission speed itself is questionable since during his underground fight with Beerus he spammed it and still got hit.
Post actual scans and not your description
That is a scan. Chapter 15.
And Gojo reacted to it proving my point.
The surehit attacks don't even exist until it's already hitting you. There is no startup, there is no travel, it's already hitting the target. And it's guaranteed to hit no matter what. Gojo reacted to instant. Meanwhile Goku in Ultra Instinct is getting fricking rocked everytime he activates it. kek
That doesn't even say that it is infinite. It just means that it is faster than Maki the moment it appeared.
Because Beerus is faster than instant.
The same guy who couldn't keep up with Goku's IT?
Wiki says sure-hits go through infinity
>the attack is called guaranteed hit
>that must means it is infinite
Kek. Is this moron for real? He is using the same logic as that one NaruTARD when he claimed everyone is infinite speed.
And you haven't debunked me to this day.
>Gojotard is the NaruTARD
>he thinks that his aurora borealis needs debunking
Kek. Why are nu-shonen gays like this?
Nah your mistaken. I literally just came from the gym and clicked this thread for the first time today. I don't watch JJK or care particularly about that.
The attack isn't called guaranteed hit, it's a mechanic in JJK. Read the manga.
Scans on how it works?
Are you sure he wasn't just doing vanishes
Proof that surehits move at infinite speed?
In that same chapter Gojo explained that sometimes you can parry guaranteed hits speedreader.
Also stop ignoring
Goku has a lot of Wincons against Gojo, and so does Superman.
He's actively ignoring Goku's telekinesis. The gojotard can't do anything but post headcanons and deny reality.
>But the god ki still needs to travel to the victim and there's no proof showing otherwise
It doesn't need to travel. It ignores distance. Gojo is dead. Even if Gojo activated his domain, Goku can break out of it. Gotenks and Buu screamed out of a dimension in Z, Super Goku is much more powerful.
Being able to be used from a distance =/= it doesn't need to travel
The actual God ki needed to perform it still has to get to the victim and that's everytime we see Hakai. Hakai got punched through too. Unless you have proof it doesn't need to travel it's a moronic headcanon.
I have all the proof in my manga scans. Where is the glow and the spark you claim? Attack happened instantly. Hakai doesn't need to be used like a fireball. Goku used it without touching and firing it.
Goku literally has to aim his hand specifically at the rock and there's an entire panel to show he has to aim specifically at it. If Hakai doesn't need to travel why does he need to aim it and why doesn't it just work instantly? Because everytime we've seen Hakai it has to get to the opponent and it even got punched through. The manga is obviously black and white and hakai is shown differently in many scenes, even when Beerus uses it it looks like nothing and only the burst of the target is shown like Goku and the rock. Again, there's more proof of the god ki having to stick to the target first than the contrary.
Because he needs to aim to select his target? Are you actually moronic or just pretending?
Aiming at something doesn't prove that Hakai needs to travel. Does telepathy and telekinesis needs to travel because someone is focusing on using it? Kek. There are no effects in the manga, otherwise Toyotaro would put something to indicate that.
Wut
If Hakai doesn't need to travel, Zamasu wouldn't be able to escape it.
... Because it takes time to erase him? How does it prove Hakai has travel time?
...because Hakai is crossing his body... And he had time to escape it, ergo, not instant...
Proof Hakai is traveling to his body?
Hakai is literally travelling from one side of the target to the other. Meaning it's crossing distance. You lost the argument, moron.
Proof that Hakai is traveling?
He even had time to change his facial expression and to sweat lmao that's some instant you Dragon Balls gays have there
You brown mongoloid. Only Fused Zamasu was dissolving like a pill die to his immortality. Every other instance, it was instant kill.
EVEN WHEN HAKAI IS ALREADY ON SOMEONE we see it slowly dissolve them, so it definitely crosses distance. You fricking moron.
>EVEN WHEN HAKAI IS ALREADY ON SOMEONE we see it slowly dissolve them
moron. It only worked slower on Fused Zamasu due to his regen/immortality. Everyone else died instantly.
Not him but
>Everyone else died instantly
Zamasu when Beerus erased him wasn't immortal.
And he died instantly moron. You dumbfrick.
Because the effect is dissolving them? Stop trying to push your weird Hakai travel headcanon when it has never been shown like that. None of what you post proves hakai crosses distance. Meaningless anyways, because Goku has telekinesis.
You literally see the hakai going from one part of the body travelling to the other, meaning it crosses distance. This is consistent both in the manga
And the anime.
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Hell characters can even talk while in the midst of getting Hakai'd, so yeah the god ki has to envelop the body part to dissolve it, aka it's travelling from one part of the body to the other. Hakai still needs to travel. So it's gonna get stuck in infinity and never touch Gojo.
That doesn't mean it's traveling, moron. That's a property of the body dissolving
There's never been a magical hakai projectile. This is literally just your headcanon.
>doesn't mean it's travelling
How? It literally has to get from one body part to another. Why doesn't it just dissolve the entire body instantly? Because it's travelling, the god ki still has to travel and make contact to dissolve something. It's why Hakai got punched through. Why everytime Hakai it's used the death is NEVER instant, the Hakai has to envelop the body parts and get to the other ones meaning it's crossing distance. It will get stuck in infinity.
>Only Fused Zamasu was dissolving
Beerus Hakaing the ghost also dissolved like a pill , moron. Even fricking buildings dissolve like a pill, those don't have immortality. Tired of debunking all your shit arguments and never getting anything back in return. I will just take this as a concession since you just ignore BOTH the anime and manga for your headcanon.
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It's not "traveling through the body", this is literal headcanon cope you just made up.
>anime showed that Hakai instantly appears on the target and starts destroying from within
Even worse for Gojo. Like a more lethal Bang.
Zamasu literally has god-tier regen. Anyone else is done instantly.
that was moreso Zam dragging in Mai to make Goku stop from killing her too. Also at the time, it was the first time Goku had ever even done a hakai, which he himself says is nothing like the kind Beerus can do. MUI Goku is so good that even Beerus gives him proper respect
>Aiming at something doesn't prove that Hakai needs to travel
And it also doesn't disprove it doesn't travel. We have seen more instances of it needing to get to the enemy than the contrary. Hakai got punched through. If it was instant there wouldn't be travel.
There are more intances of Hakai being used without touching something/someone.
Being used as a projectile =/= hakai itself not needing to touch someone
We're talking about the god ki, not the user. We literally see the Hakai itself having to slowly dissolve bodies everytime it's used, meaning it's travelling on the body to get from one side to the other. Hakai requires distance therefore it's never getting through infinity.
Your cope headcanon is pathetic. None of that proves Hakai is traveling.
>Hakai literally shown having to travel from one body part to another instead of instantly dissolving the entire body
The manga and anime disagree with you. You seem to have no more comebacks though. I accept your concession.
That doesn't mean it's traveling through your body. That's literally something you made up. Feel free to flee, seems like you're ready.
>Gojo reacted to instant which is the fastest
>is slower than Kashimo
>slower than Sukuna's cleave
Kek.
just scream really hard and open a hole through infinity
Infinity isn't a dimension to scream through, it's literally just a void, empty space already.
>it's literally a void, empty space already
so Jiren can shake it while holding back
Ok, so he shakes nothing. This doesn't harm Gojo in any way.
Goku just kills Gojo inside of his own domain, It's a dead end for him because none of his attacks can actually kill Goku besides UV's brain melting capabilities, but using it means he is vulnerable to be punched to death by ultra instinct Goku.
If superman can fly at speeds even remotely close to the flash then he can literally out infinite limitless and one tap Gojo
>Infinite Mass Punch
Does DC have a contract with DB behind the scenes?
Rooster Teeth is Warner Brothers subsidiary company, make your guess
Warner owns both DC and DB.
Death Battle gets its small budget from Rooster Teeth, who are owned by Warner. For obvious reasons there must be a bias for certain brands. Otherwise, we wouldn't have gotten 3 RWBY Death Battles or RWBYxJL crossover movies.
RvB and RWBY are not mainstream enough to deserve Death Battles, honestly.
There's no "behind the scenes", DB is owned by RT which in turn is the property of WB
what if this next fight is an elaborate bit and this is the real matchup, how would you react?
If the left side was the Spook, it could work. Scarecrow is not an illusionist.
Echidna is a 30 ft tall(at time of death) , rapidly regenerating chimeric mass of human flesh, animal flesh, and alien flesh with her previous human form existing atop from the waist up plus multiple giant animal/human limbs and heads with elongated tongues/tentacles for snatching prey. She can speak and see/sense through this mixxed bag of body parts. Projectile vomitting and screaming all the way.
Her primary ability is to clone any living thing on contact with her for a minute or so, from bacteria to animals to humans. She passively absorbs living things like quicksand, containing them within individual 'wombs' to process and create as many clones as she'd like. All the clones come out bigger, stronger, sometimes mutated, evil, and generally loyal to Echidna's command. Powers are copied as well and also benefit from the boost, sometimes changing in some way.
Dead biomass is added to her body and enhance her physical size.
She can also shapeshift slightly, dissolving her bones and such to become more like jello and to move inorganic objects through her.
Someone just leak the episode already.
Superman still wins. MUI Goku is still slower than anything Superman has done. MUI Goku cannot match Supes. At all.
What would happen if Death Battle gets canceled before the episode is released and no one will ever know who won Goku vs Superman
>What would happen if Death Battle gets canceled
good
>Goku will...
He won't do shit.
Enough.
This is what happened in Gojo's dying dream after base Goku one-shot him with a punch.
If Goku can go faster than time then he can move farther than infinity.
>Peeps thinking Gojo can be beat
Kek
>he says, while fleeing from the fact Goku has telekinesis
This kinda posting isn't cool when it's a FOTM anime twink
>keeping death battle AND these threads alive
What is stopping Goku from doing this to Gojo?
Nothing
He already displayed telekinetic proficiency at the hospital
>survives floating next to a black hole
Nolan can't beat Superman.
The moment Nolan does something like shatter that plane full of innocent people, serious Clark will come out and the kid gloves come off.
Nolan can stomp multiple Supermen.
DCAU, DC Animated movies, Red Son, CW, Young Justice, etc.
not DCAU Superman after the recent film
Superman can’t even tank a small nuke.
Nolan creates nukes just by moving
Why is people posting this so much? he wasn't in the event horizon, andd was about to commit sudoku.
Wasn’t the point of that scene that he was contemplating suicide?
Powerscalers still are going to use it to say Nolan is MFTL and star level.
Gokubros… We got too wienery…
>shitty dc wank from their literal lapdogs
yaaawn
>self contained episodes anon
>People not having read the story having opinions.
Many such cases....
Doesn't this just imply that Brainiac will be scattered over that distance in that timeframe and not that the universe expands at this rate?
Eh...what? This wasn't the main DC Universe, this was Braniac with Impeirex being brought outside the universe witha Boomtube to create the universe. The DC Universe doesn't have an abnormal expansion rate or anything like that.
>DC Would never lose anything again because of finite 3D values
Gurren laggen stomps that verse so hard its unreal
>the DC universe has multiple statements of being infinite in size, far more then it being finite
>DB still use the finite size for it
fricking why?
because it isn't infinite and they always backtrack and assign finite values to said "infinite". They just say it to make things sound hype like muh gorillion decibals that cant destroy buildings.
DBZ is infinite so it wins.
Learn to read, Pablo, an x value increasing indefinitely =/= already established infinite value, our universe is also infinitely expanding, but it's finite in size.
It is infinite tho.
>u-uh no i-it doesn't count because...
KWAB!
...because English is your second language.
Expansive:
1)having a capacity or a tendency to expand
2)causing or tending to cause expansion
It is infinite.
The universe in DB has a center and edge.
Infinite spaces don't have centers or edges, that contradicts the meaning of it.
The centre is omnipresent and edges are formed by the limit as x approaches infinity, mathlet.
The idea of a center being omnipresent contradicts only 1 center being in dragon ball, otherwise there will be no point in addressing it in the show or making it an objective in finding it.
The center is the place where the big bang happened. Where the universe started expanding.
Cool, our universe also isn't infinite, and is expanding, point being?
And infinities cannot expand.
Infinity expands into more infinity. It is all infinite. Like the DB verse.
Contradiction, infinity is an absolute thing, it doesn't grow because it's always large, it is not a gazillion growing into gorillion like you imagine.
>infinites cannot grow
>they go on forever
Yup. Yup.
There is a center
Everything expands out from the center
Do Bleach fans still exist?
I like to pretend I'm one even though all I know about Bleach comes from debating.
Where's a Bleach episodo tho? Or One Piece?!! Meanwhile they give TWO to Dragon Ball. That's One fricking logic
Next season for sure
Who’s the dude on the right? Whitebeard was a monster even when sick. In his prime he’d be OP
Genryusai Yamamoto, the main overpowered old guy in bleach
Would be nice, I'm not convinced it'll make it because of the idiots that want Whitebeard vs Escanor.
rate my tierlist
Courage can get pregnant.
>Frieza cannot get pregnant
You haven't been trying hard enough
I'm sure Discord and Bill could if they wanted too
Dovakhiin and Chosen Undead are player created characters and can be women. They should at least go in unsure tier.
Make a tier list of how good of a mother the characters that can get pregnant would be
It just dawned on me on how few women have been in this season.
>Martian Manhunter can't get pregnant
Emperor Invincible vs Injustice Superman
didn't the last 2 fights both establish that Superman's max power is infinite and regardless what power up Goku gets, Superman will always be stronger?
whats the point of this?
check the videos now. They've said they’re innacurate, and now they're saying Supes has limits (legit what they've said on twitter)
this is even more moronic since the current official status of UI Goku is "one-shotted by Freeza"
Dragon Bois taking big Ls as always
>gojotard samegayging
>gojotard thinks people don't realize he's posting from his phone
Reminder that he would FOLD Yujiro.
>people are claiming this is instant
KEKAROOOOOOO
If Hakai was truly instant Toppo wouldn't need to throw balls at his enemy.
>Hakai spawns on the body
Still ignoring distance tho. It literally appears on the body
The TRAVEL is instant
What travel? He had to get close to him to use it.
He doesn't need to get close.
Hakai is literally travelling in that gif, across the body. If it was truly instant, the dissolving process would be instant and the hakai energy wouldn't need to slowly travel from one part to the other. Jesus
The "energy" isn't traveling, it's a property of the move
Is DC's Cheetah vs Cheetara a good fight?
Which versions?
No, but Cheetah vs Sabretooth is.
Cheetah blitzes the frick out of sabertooth
Sabertooth's regen would help him a little. Not a lot but enough to try and fight back.
unless its Sabertooth with the adamantium claws, I don't see him even damaging Cheetah with how bullshit her durability from fighting Wondey is
Pretty much, yeah. Also, wasn't there one version that gave him adamantium teeth as well?
Ultimate ST did, but he's not standard. I think 616 may still have adamantium bones but I don't know following House of M
Goku and Superman would job to my hero.
Since itsjustsomerandomguy is MIA, wonder if they'll make the new voice hace supes sound more like he does in the DCEU, DCAU, or hell MAWS since that was in the teaser.
Why the hell is MAWS in the teaser?
They're going composite
It's the latest Superman focused cartoon. Well that FOTM Lois too, but y'know.
Amazing how quickly Cinemaphile stopped thirsting over that Lois as soon as the Amber comparisons started lol
same reason why WFC was in Megatron's preview when it's Aligned even if it's still technically G1 they need some cool footage
Why do people desperately want to see them fight? Goku and Superman have reach power levels where they can destroy entire solar systems, if they wanted to. They reached a point where their powers are so OP, the only thing limiting how powerful they can become is based on the writer. Don't get why people are hang up about how powerful these characters are when DC and Toriyama both admit their characters are strong as the story requires.
It's varies depending on the story. This is especially jarring because Supes and Goku live in different universes with different laws of physics. Ki in DB doesn't work the same way in the DC universe.
who cares about hakai if you can tank it?
>bobobore
he rapes Goku anytime
... In his dreams. In reality, Goku oneshots.
Bobobo had his soul destroyed and still could fight
Cool, still rekt.
Isn't MAWS Superman a jobber?
Yep. He's once again Still figuring out his powers and whatnot and he's a total dork
Ehh he’s jobs in a sense that he doesn’t want to fight. But when he tries it’s easy for him to steamroll.
Why are they saying its instant? It's literally coming form Beerus' body like a kamehameha, it's just a glorified Ki blast
It ignores distance and instantly spawns on the target like a super cancer. It still bypasses Gojo's defenses.
Nope, it still travels.
>not the same attack because Toppo wasn't allowed to kill
Kek.
You do realize that wasn't hakai but rather the hakai balls toppo used
Meanwhile omnipotence from Boruto is actually instant.
How the mighty has fallen.
DB characters have brute forced through conceptual babble multiple times. Unless your character is Goku tier without any gimmicks to start with, it's useless.
Reminder that Hakai wouldn’t work on Superman since he can tank Darkseid’s Omega Beams that do the exact same thing.
Even Batman tanked that jobber shit.
Cope
>says the copeseider
Upscales batgoat.
Didn’t he “die” and got sent back in time??
Darkseid's Omega SHARTS are jobber beams
Depends.
He clearly wasn’t erased from existence in that scan. He’s even shown being carried away in the 3rd panel.
Still hurt and knocked out.
That wasn’t the point I was making. Hakai wouldn’t work on Superman because he has survived attacks that would normally erase someone frome reality. Even if he’s knocked out, he still exists.
If Superman gets knocked out by a Hakai, he is still at a big disadvantage.
True. But he tanks them more often than he gets knocked out by them, so it shouldn’t be an issue.
This makes no sense.
Except Omega Beam's effect and power literally depends on the writer/run. Sure, there are runs where he can take them, but there are also runs when they pose a problem to him.
Superbro is weaker than normal Superman.
Omega Beams are fricking weird since it varies from instantly deleting you from existence to just being a generic laser beam
Here it’s described as “termination itself” and he overpowers it.
Wasn't Doc Manhattan unable to erase him for some reason?
Unsure, Manhattan states it like Supes is a integral part of DC, which makes it sound more metaconextual (which makes sense for Manhattan)
Why is Elvira with them?
>Secret crisis
Doomsdaybros.....we canonically die to the Hulk?
Those are just fricking homing laser beams. They're dog shit.
>The Tardis
>Coffee tier
i guess she prefers tea
This fight is going to be reduced down to something very simple.
Superman can tank hakai. Goku can't. Durability advantage, Superman. Game over.
Goku has been inside an orb of destruction energy specifically meant to kill him or his final team member (Golden Frieza, who he's certainly above at the end of ToP). He can totally resist destruction
They dealt with it by blocking it with ki. They didn't bounce it off their chests. In fact, they were very concerned about letting it hit them square.
>Dragon Ball characters use ki to amp their bodies
Yeah, that is how that works.
Vegeta did, but Goku and Frieza certainly didn't, they just tanked and overpowered it
Beerus saved his ass.
by blowing it away. Overpowering. Hell, Frieza just does it with his bare hands while Golden, he's talking mad shit about Goku who's having to do it in base. Keep in mind that as far as Blue and Golden are, they're dead even with the fight we see right after this
Post ToP Goku is stronger than Frieza and Bejita and they both dealt easily with Hakai.
I just want a long fight. 10 minutes at least. I think that the biggest fight on Death Battle should be longer than 3-5 minutes.
Stand proud, Diaperku, you are strong.
Kids: Goku vs Superman
Men: Chi-chi vs lois lane
chichi rapes the frick out of lois
...using her futa wiener.
she already doms goku, would do the same with lane
Goku fricks her
That's why he doesn't kiss her
Lucky Lois...
Does Lois lane even fight? Knowing DC there should be at least one comic about her getting superpowers or something
There's been a few.
She knows Klukor, a Kryptonian martial art.
I don't know if it'd overcome the stat difference is the thing
The fight will be 5 minutes long.
Superman will win.
Only SSG, SSB, and Ultra Instinct will be used in the animation.
The “death” will be a fakeout with Goku simply passing out to not upset Dragon Ball fans.
Reasoning will be Superman having better stats.
Finale is Galactus vs Unicron.
Two weeks.
Saved.
They're not going to have Goku live, that outs this as a fake post.
>Finale is Galactus VS Unicron
So close but revealed the fakeness there.
you know the deal homosexual, leak something minor that'd be shown before the episode comes out so we could know if you're legitimate or not
The Episode will be 26-27 minutes long with the analysis being more extensive than usual
Michael Kovach will be reprising his role as Goku after voicing him in Gogeta vs Vegito
Fight starts with Goku asking Superman for a sparring match similar to the original
Superman will be voiced by Paul Guyet
Cutaway Gag in Goku’s analysis involves Boomstick using the Dragon Balls and fusing with Wiz as a callback to last seasons finale.
Unsurprisingly Liam will be cowriting the episode along with Ben
Where does the fight take place?
Detroit
Does the fight really end with Goku collapsing from exhaustion?
U LIE
He's talking about helping Ben write his portion of the script. This doesn't refute what anon says.
Yeah. Describe details about the previews or something. Or something in the fight preview.
Dead thread.
I think the guys at death battle just wanted to update their Superman Vs Goku episode, this debate will always exist so they want to have a shiny new animation and a good analysis for non DB watchers to see every time they watch videos about it.
Also it's likely the result will be the same as before but now they won't sugarcoat Goku's defeat, and won't use the "muh infinite" argument. They will just treat it like any other episode and say "superman wins because here, here, and here, he did this thing that is equivalent to X magnitude and that's more than what Goku did here, here, and here."
Excalibur can beat up your favorite character
ENTER
...and by Excalibur I mean Excalibur GODnic.
>CHUDnic still coping after his loss to MariGOD
typical.
>Goku v. Superman 3: Insert Trilogy Subtitle Here.
Why not do something else?
Like fricking Gohan vs. Superboy?
Doing research on Ultraman's murderous cousin and he presents an interesting powerscaling question.
The expanded lore for Redman (yes, there is lore) states that he fights the reanimated monsters of other heroes brought back to life again and again by the same vague evil forces that destroyed his home planet. Given the ease at which he dispatches monsters like Zetton, does this mean Redman > Ultraman, or given that the revived monsters never demonstrate the powers and abilities of their previous selves, do we discount Redman fodderizing them?
I'm not going to say he's all of Gamera's brutality with none of his heart but...
I just found out the manga adaptation of Vs. Iris has him get decapitated.
He literally just gets back up and kills Iris without his head before fricking off to fight the Hyper Gyaos swam
Honestly if Death Battle wasn't just a show about strength and speed feats, Goku could easily take out Superman. He knows Supes' weaknesses, but Goku's character flaw prevents him from exploiting them, and since Death Battle already pointed out that Supes' has no limits to his power and Goku wants to fight him at his best, this is effectively just a means for Goku to test out his new found abilities until he dies, then revives and fricks off until the next few power ups.
That Street Sharks guy sure has been real quiet lately….
People use Bing to look up Battletoads, Snoy.
>rwby doesn't even have a tent or golf club covers
You have to cope.
You’re right, onnly successful video games and an actual fandom
Go back to being sub Gargoyles
Do we have to go over how successful Street Sharks was in the 90s? Really?
Anyone can get a Halloween costume
Got it, Street Sharks has no relevance in the modern day
Mattel literally just said they're brining them back for their big 30th. And bullshit, not everyone can get a halloween costume. Dragonzord never had a halloween costume.
Revival's next year dude, you got about a month. And it's pointing to them crossing over with the turtles officially.
>several sharks and villains appeared in Draxum's yokai vision, even Bullzeye and Badrap from extreme dinosaurs where there, in Rise of the TMNT
>Playmates and Viacom are down with doing crossovers: MOO Mesa, Batman/DC, Power Rangers, Ghost Busters, He-man
>The He-Man crossover has Mattel and Playmates on very good terms.
>Mattel has been saying they're bringing back the street sharks since August.
>next year's their 30th
And the TMNT connections run deeper
>The guy who molded the Street Sharks and Extreme Dinosaur toys did the villain molds for Playmates TMNT line, including Shredder, Krang, Traag, Scaleface and Scratch
>Both had Archie Comic runs
>Both where in a cross promotion with Chef Boyardee
>kids in 1993 where turtled out, the third movie was trash, the red sky era of the cartoon was lacking, then Street Sharks came along and vanished when Saban made Next Mutation
>There's a reason Super Duper Fly didn't have any sharks on him when his mutating gun went off in the ocean in Mutant Mayhem
Where you the tard that said 'the street sharks isn't a franchise, it had a tv show and toys', basically describing a franchise?
>sub Gargoyles
Gargoyles are subs to The Mummies.
>man, this series that's been dormant until 2019 is losing to this youtube goyslop from rooster teeth! get owned!
>a series that's not even been brought back yet
vs
>some weeb series from machinima or some shit
>a game series that was only remembered for a meme, then the meme spawned a shit remake
>a series that's getting the disney live action treatment
FRICKING MONKE
You can even see the spike in 2010 when the meme happened.
Basado
I want to see Otto's live reaction once Superman loses.
>He still thinks Superman will lose
>In an episode written by Swan
Proclaim the score
/m/ here
Wrangle your tards you gays, we don't want them on our board
Is it some moron spamming Nikocado Avacado and something about an 'ass void'? Lopibats? Is it the Gamera wiener sucker? You gotta be specific here, this place generates a lot of tards.
>Wrangle your
Otto uses this expression a lot. You can't fool us, dude.
Better dad and person to hang out with, Superman or Goku?
Both go to Supes. He was actually there for his son(s), and Goku isn't interested in hanging out if it doesn't pertain to training, and normal humans (esp irl) are so weak that it wouldn't even popup on his radar. You could at least chat with Supes and get his interests, and he's so fast with dealing with problems (aside from world destruction) that he could feasibly solve them in less than a minute so its not like you'll be missing anything if he has to answer something real quick while you're hanging out
Really though, what the hell could they have planned for a finale, relating to whatever's left on the wheel, that they think would top this?
Wiz vs Boomstick
pretty certain it's suit. They could have absolutely been bullshitting with the Light vs Columbo thing, but otherwise I honestly don't know what would be finale worthy while pertaining to suits. Maye Harvey Birdman vs Phoenix Wright
YES
i guess it could be a slightly mid finale like Adachi GAPING Kira
For God's sake Ben, just release the answer key already.
Galactus vs Unicron?
Gee golly, I dunno, maybe Boros vs Battle Beast if they weren't moronic or Galactus vs Unicron hell, Jiren vs Sentry would've worked
Jiren vs Sentry has no connections and is moronic.
Less moronic than the moeshit you casuals desire, and most DBZ characters haven't even licked up a MU, like Gohan, Krillin and Android 17
>Jiren vs MM
>moeshit
Fricking break your own knees or I will do it for you.
Considering the suit symbol is probably the one remaining its either gonna be Persona VS Jojo or Columbo match since they've been spamming easter eggs of him all season
>Columbo
Why is he so wanted? Dude doesn’t even fight.
My prediction, Death Battle lets Goku win on this one and every single DBZ-weebs will skree and wail saying "See, See, we told you our chad Goku could beat your fricking limp-dicked Kal-El!"
I could beat Goku.
Hello Bejita
No powers or Super strength, pure hand to hand fighting skill.
Who wins on each row?
Donkey Kong.
i miss when Goku had cartoon force
It comes down to Yujiro and Goku. While Goku is an extremely skilled martial artist, Yujiro slam dunks him in that regard by not only knowing virtually every martial art, but also replicating moves/techniques after only seeing them once. He's even stated that the only reason he doesn't use them more often was simply because of his strength, so its not like taking that away is even a handicap for him.
You forgot the fact that Yujiro is 265lbs 6'4 while Goku is a manlet, Kung fu homies can dance all they want, but weight classes exist for a reason
Anon was discounting super strength, so I was kinda just considering it equalized.
Yujiro probably since he can auto know any martial art after being exposed to it once.
Yujiro
Luffy
Goku
Dunno, probably guy on the right
Yujiro
Well Saitama is dead last, given it was literally a plot point in the manga that he was so inept at actual technique that he joined a martial arts tournament to see some, only to not retain any of it and learn nothing.
He can't be worse than Eren, he trained wit that Titan slaying militia but I remember him being dog shit at it, and besides the maneuvering with the wire thing and using swords he never showed any proficiency at hand to hand combat (even when he was trained for that)
Denji also lacks any formal training, but at least he has that "street dog" energy, he would likely bite you in the balls if you give him the opportunity
You mean to tell me Denji got that dawg in him?
yea, as does Makima
>Denji
None of them are probably great fighters without their main fighting styles relying on their powers but I feel like Denji would go for a move like biting off their balls or something
>Goku
Saitama has no real skill, don't know enough about Eren but I'm certain Goku is taking this one
>Gojo or Toji
Gojo was beating Sukuna pure hand to hand, Toji's a bigger guy but probably less overall skilled. If it came down purely to skill and nothing else I'd lean Gojo
>Yujiro
Do I need to say it
>I feel like Denji would go for a move like biting off their balls or something
Luffy used Arlong's own teeth to bite him back, and bit half of Crocodile's body off during their first fight. So if we're judging by 'willingness to use underhanded tactics,' Luffy applies.
Plus he's still a competent enough fighter without his devil fruit. He doesn't have any real technique but he thinks creatively at least.
All of them are underhanded enough to go for a bite but Denji might as well be an animal. Hell he's eaten a person before. I'd take getting into a fight with a somewhat skilled average guy than an insane cannibal.
Hey, eating someone only happened onc- twic- three times. They were also Devils so it doesn’t count.
I mean wouldn't that be a point against Denji then?
This is about actual hand-to-hand fighting skill. You're basically just saying Denji would ape out without any technique.
I assumed this was about them in an random fight with no powers, if this was some contained martial arts match with rules then yes I would give it to Luffy
Goku loses hard in his row.
Dbz “martial arts” are a complete joke and just a pseudonym for their power system of flying about in the air shooting laser beams at each other and yelling. They’ve got no basis in reality. They don’t guard, they don’t kick, 90% of their melee is just swinging their arms at eachother like chimps without moving their body. Goku as well has relied on his superpowers to coast by his entire life since he was a baby, he’s never learned how to throw a punch that relies on shifting your bodyweight instead of your magic kai-chi-energy giving you magic saiyan super strength with nothing to do with your mass.
Eren’s not bullshit like Mikasa or Levi but he’s formally trained in hand to hand combat, and his author thankfully is one of the few that studies actual fighting for when his characters are throwing fists.
Ever see one of those /gif/ fight vids where one guy suplexes the other and he has no idea how to get out of a clinch before his skull smacks the ground?That’s the kind of stomp we’re looking at here
What are you talking about? Goku is the most muscular in his row, and the most experienced.
The most experienced at yelling and swinging his arms in a circle like a Black person
His technique is trash, as is everyone’s in dbz
Oh, I see. You haven't actually watched Dragon Ball.
I have, and I know BJJ as well, but I'll give you a chance to prove Goku knows even the slightest bit about fighting:
Here's Eren applying a Triangle Armbar on Reiner.
What fighting technique does Goku know to escape this submission hold, and when has he used it?
Hint: Yelling and Crying louder for a powerup is not an escape technique.
>BJJ
Pfft! Ya might as well say knowing Tai Chi counts
So you can't?
Thanks for admitting then, that Goku (and you) know zero (0) real life combat.
Scissored Armbars are used in wrestling too, not that you're aware of this.
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BJJ is literally for b***hes. Any decent wrestler folds a top BJJ guy.
Good thing Eren knows wrestling moves,
and Goku only knows the "scream and cry harder" move
>SHITku babble
>admits that BJJ gays get folded by wrestlers
God, I would break you. Even boxing gays aren't that annoying.
I seriously doubt your keyboard warrior e-LARP, but I seriously don't care. Wrestling is much more important to MMA than jiu jitsu, that's just a fact, I had to learn wrestling moves too. most ufc fighters come from wrestling. I got no tribewar with that
I just dislike BJJ fanatics. Whenever I see a BJJ tournament and a dude is on his back inviting the other dude to engage him, shit just makes me laugh. I just keep thinking how a good soccer kick in a real situation would end that shit real good. Wrestling and kickboxing is enough for most people.
Yujiro said it was an unbeatable move. Ali Jr. A hyper jobber beat it by walking away.
Define "beating". Ali Jr is first and foremost a sportsman, he lacks actual killer intent or will that the other core fighters have. He sees Yujiro's move as basically throwing the match, like an "I give up", when in actuality, trying to approach Yujiro of all people with the move could very well be a death sentence. Yuj wanted to see if Ali's unique style could actually answer the situation, but Jr doesn't actually consider their fight anything other than "a match"
why don't people just focus on being all-rounders? Like become proficient enough in grappling either with mma/bjj/wrestling, get good striking from boxing or muay thai, and I guess maybe decent kicking from karate or something. You don't need to learn literally everything from each of them if you're gonna trim the fat anyways
Tribalism/representing the other tribe/martial art. I don't really give a frick. Wrestling and a little bit of boxing mixed with calisthenics/weight tranining is good enough for me.
Because some people are terrified of actually fighting. BJJ still does the 'beat anyone of any size without having to fight' narrative that appeals to a lot of...For a lack of a better way of saying...Weak people. They super internalize that and become rabid when you suggest their worldview is actually dangerously incorrect.
>BJJ still does the 'beat anyone of any size without having to fight' narrative that appeals to a lot of...For a lack of a better way of saying...Weak people. They super internalize that and become rabid when you suggest their worldview is actually dangerously incorrect.
A lot of people have main characters syndrome and don’t wanna do something that will take a lot of work from the body.
All-round is for actual self-defense
Tribalism happens when you compete and your instructors only want to teach you one way to prove theirs is the bestest ever. Anything else is admitting they're not the best
Real answer. Tribalism, like everything else. Just do what you want and don't be a smartass about it.
BJJ is hard-focused on the ground fight. Fanatics want the fight to go into grappling immediately because otherwise they have to admit you can't learn just grapples and nothing else.
People always call wrestling gay because of that but at least you have to do takedowns before you're both rubbing breasts
>People always call wrestling gay because of that but at least you have to do takedowns before you're both rubbing breasts
Man, wrestling is pure fun. Just your will against another man's. It is the best sport for developing strenght, flexibility and endurance. God, I still enjoy watching Karelin's old matches.
For anyone not in the know, this guy has a PHD, a law degree, and is a Russian Senator.
He was undefeated world champion for 13 years
God. You should have mentioned more. His record is 887 wins and 2 loses by a SINGLE FRICKING POINT!!! His nickname was the EXPERIMENT. I truly believe that nobody could and can rival Karelin in his prime. Dude was a machine.
Death Battle between him and Senator Armstrong, now
His PHD is literally how to defend a suplex. What a fricking god.
God. UFC 1 shilling Gracie and BJJ ruined BJJ. Greco-Roman or Freestyle wrestling is so much better than BJJ. Would have been better if wrestling was shilled like BJJ.
True martial arts are all about, in my eyes, the ability to control the situation better than your opponent. If you can "Work with" your opponent, so to speak, then you win. Always having a way out of a position, always having a way to control what position your foe is in, etc.
Goku knows how to fight
He knows how to "anime" fight, not real fight.He doesn't even guard his face, he's asking for instant braindamage.
He does
No he doesn't. He does a silly chinese horse stance to reference Bruce Lee movies (with his fingers making a crab claw because he thinks its cool, which irl would just get them grabbed and twisted off).
He has never, not once, put his hands into fists and protected his forehead like an actual fighter would know to do. He is wide and open at all times to getting a preordered concussion
>Mad at his attempt at a humble brag was shut down
Couldn’t even do actual jiu jiutsu
>BJJ
Kek. The worst martial art. Wrestling shits on all day. Only b***hes train BJJ
>bjj
Weirdly enough, I think the only example of somebody mentioned semi-frequently in these threads getting in a triangle armbar and getting out of it is Kiryu Kazuma.
This is a pretty interesting and nuanced video. He starts out at the beginning trying to figure out how to just stand up while getting grappled and determines that it's really darn hard to do. His experience is more that entering a competition with certain expectations (BJJ, grappling on the ground) and then not doing them is a good way to cause frustration and confusion. Ultimately, he does have to grapple to finish his fight, and his conclusion is less that BJJ is useless and more that you really don't want your first move in a fight to be going to the ground.
On that subject, Forest Griffith actually wrote about an experience he had fighting somebody outside a bar. It was an easy win for him, he tackled him to the ground and choked him out without the other guy landing a punch... And ended up bruising up his back in the process of rolling around on a parking lot.
MMA's pretty great!
Not true, Scott Voss, Here Comes the Boom
>getting in a triangle armbar and getting out of it is Kiryu Kazuma
Based Dragon of Dojima
meds
Make the thread on Cinemaphile
Erin might survive if he desperately tries to grapple but if we're equal in terms of "Everyone's strength is proportional to their size/muscles" then Yujiro wins.
Anon you do realize it's by rows
Yes but I'm accounting for Yujiro attacking them outside of the parameters because he's a psycho.
Then they'd all gang up on him
Dead thread
>tripgay
are there any particular mysteries either from comics or manga that L likely couldn't solve? Could he solve the Kira case from JoJo, or the identity of the Joker, etc
L is a jobber
If L could somehow solve the Kira case despite it literally being impossible without plot intervention, he could solve anything.
Unsure, Morioh was besieged by numerous disappearances for about a decade or so, so he'd probably narrow down the likely age group. If the disappearances are all women, its more than likely a man. He was already keen on tracking Light even using helicopters and such, so it's likely he'd use any means to increase surveillance in Morioh as best he could until he found some pattern. Becuase he's also a shut-in, even if Kira suspects that there is someone specially seeking him out, he doesn't know who it is to kill with KQ, nor would he be able to try and find him without arousing suspicion. Whether L could discern factors like Kira being wealthy, or being a businessman is up in the air, but I wouldn't say if it's impossible if Jotaro was able to narrow it down with a literal button and one view of his jacket.
Wrong Kira, anon.
I mean that's almost exactly the same as the Yoshikage Kira case. Dude literally only got found out because his sandwich bag got stolen by a dog, or that Shigechi somehow defied death to take a suit-button. He would have never been caught if plot shit didn't happen
It wasn't impossible. Light left a trail, and wasn't as smart as people thought he was. Despite what people want to believe L isn't some magical anti-kira device
L jobs to Umineko's mystery
Could he solve who killed Boston Brand?
And again… goku loses…
WHEN!!!!!!
>Random emo anime guy Vs Denji
Huh?
Ken Kaneki (Tokyo Ghoul)
Shouldn’t Ken be going against Eren or like, Alex Mercer. I’m not opposed to the matchup, but I also feel like they both have better options.
seen him matched up a bunch with Eren and that kid from Parasyte
Shuichi is for Hyun Cha
Carnage is the most based MU.
Carnage should've won his Death Battle against Lucy.
He was robbed. Spider-Man scaling alone gives him the win. That doesn’t even account his own feats that should have let him survive anything Lucy could throw at him. One of the biggest screwjobs in the show.
He should probably fight Shinichi from Parasyte
Shinici wouldn’t last long with him. Denji would be a better a choice.
Rick Sanchez won
A life long trip to the afterlife
Allonsy
Fun question: What would be the most nothing finale they could possibly have? Like, such a waste of a slot that you forget about it 10 minutes after its announced?
something with Wonder Woman
Would be a complete success, I agree. As long as they give her a good opponent and not some jobber like Thor
I'd be really agitated if it was Light vs Columbo, so I wouldn't call that a fight you'd "forget about it 10 minutes after its announced." All that's coming to mind is a fight with characters who've been on the show more than once or a run-of-the-mill Marvel vs DC fight.
Turkey vs Ham. Turkey OP.
Reverse-Flash vs Scourge or Cheetah vs Catra
Batman vs Deadpool
This can be salvaged if it's Batkek vs Dreadpool.
Rebecca Black vs Justin Bieber 2.
Anything with either Marvel or DC
Marvel vs DC
How would you rank Judo, Wrestling, BJJ? Which is the best one?
Wrestling for street fights, judo isn’t something you really wanna pull out, because it’s just not designed for tsomething like concrete or asphalt when you do a throw.
I can't wait for them to get on their knees and admit they were lying. Superman fans have only had this fight to hold up for the last decade. Soon they'll an hero.
Okay but
Who'd be the better wife?
Both please and thank you
>Both are cute tomboys
I think it’s fair to say this particular Goku vs Superman match up ia a tie.
Both of them lose to my penis.
Can the three of us live on a ranch together
I seriously want to see him face off against Makima
I seriously want to see you get decapitated by Muslim terrorists.
would you like a jellybaby
Sorry, but Makima is for ye olde classmate
UHHHH WHOBROS???!!!!:
https://twitter.com/Christo08679133/status/1728510717014298713
What am I looking at? I know nothing of Dr Who.
yeah nah that's not gonna work here
no one here tries to act like the newer seasons are worth watching and pretend that it is
just stick to the older stuff
Rick lost the battle but won the war.
justin roiland is still a weirdo though
Harmon probably wishes he could fire the demat gun at Roiland irl
fair
I pity all the low-level chuds cheering for RTD's return to who.
He was always a sex pervert, but was reined in by new series being unsure in its continution
I don't know what I witnessed.
Would the doctor cum inside me if I asked him to frick me?
are you a big blue telephone box that's bigger on the inside
Who could they fight that aren't the street sharks?
are there ANY marvel vs DC fights that are still interesting?
i legit think the last one they could do that anyone would care about is Black Cat vs Catwoman
>i legit think the last one they could do that anyone would care about is Black Cat vs Catwoman
It's going to flop harder than Harley vs Jinx and Spider-Gwen vs Batgirl. As I have said before, they are never surpassing Goku when it comes to male characters and Bayo when it comes to females. Even freaking Rebecca Black and ponies did better than any DB featuring a capeshit female.
Define interesting. Street level fights? There's a bunch of Batfamily vs assorted Marvels, such as Scarecrow vs Mysterio, Damian vs X-23, and Azreal vs Moon Knight. There's some relatively higher level fights like War Machine vs Steel, Hank Henshaw vs Beta Ray Bill, and Alan Scott vs Jim Hammond. And there's the high end crazy shit like Batkek vs God-Emperor Doom.
>Batkek vs God-Emperor Doom.
I just want to see the batkeks get his shit pushed, I hate that fricking character with passion
one of his powers is that he always wins.
honestly i think street level fights would be interesting, nowadays its just OMNIGIGAULTRAMEGA level and 9999999999999999999999999999 times past the speed of light
I like Starro vs Shuma-Gorath, Trigon vs Dormammu and Dream vs Nightmare
>are there ANY marvel vs DC fights that are still interesting?
Based on characters alone I don't think there is much left.
Marvel still has some interesting choices like Kamala, misterio, Reed Richards, maybe even bring Miles again, but most Matchups I see for them are against non DC characters.
DC still got plastic man, Siniestro (if somebody cares about him), hawk girl (if somebody cares about her), Catwoman, maybe some alternative flash that has an actual personality, scarecrow, and cyborg.
The only one I see could deliver a decent episode is Mysterio vs Scarecrow, Reed Vs plastic man is a waste for both characters, and the match up you said is literally Catwoman Vs literal who.
The main problem with Marvel Vs DC is the fricking Mirror matches. The only decently entertaining Capeshit episodes, Omnilander, Ironbats, Wantanna, either have charismatic characters (Homelander, omniman, Tony), a good clash of powers that are not the exact same (Iron man and batman), or at the very least make the characters use their powers in a entertaining way (Zantanna)
I would be more interested in something random like Ant man Vs mister fantastic than Any man vs atom or plastic man Vs Reed Richards, at least that way you can argue about how their shit would interact or Clash
I'm still waiting for Ego vs Mogo
You forgot the Speedy insult of the thread:
Speedy is so fat, his brain leaks out cheese curds and lard.
This whining about Goku only being adept at anime fighting is ridiculous, 90% of fictional characters that actually fight do this.
dragonballgays should accept it then that Goku's not a skilled martial artist. All he knows is flailing his arms like a little kid until either he or the bad guy tire out from 1 billion tiny punches
You mean like every other fictional character?
you need to read some non-shit. Start with Baki