It's not historically accurate (timeline is condensed, the worst purges were done in the thirties etc.), but I think it captures the spirit of those times, the paranoia and the backstabbing. It's also really funny.
>Someone quickly explain the current drama before the thread 404's.
OP here, this is an on-topic thread and I genuinely wanted to talk about this movie because I watched it recently > Who is the wagner group and why is anything an issue
Private group of mercenaries fighting for Russia in Ukraine who have now turned against Putin and are on their way to Moscow
>Hey I just wanted to make an on topic thread BUT ill appease the shitposter by turning into an off topic post
You screwed up op, could’ve just ignored the /misc/ teen
You could watch Eisensteins Ivan the Terrible, Stalin liked that czar and identified with him, but didn't like Eisensteins depiction of Ivan (it was rather sanitized and apparently Stalin thought he was depicted as too much of a pussy). In the movie Ivan says that a czar has to rule with a firm hand and a recurring theme is that the boyars are a vile and treacherous lot. Apparently this is a frequent motif in Russian culture, the czar is good, but the ministers are bad.
>(it was rather sanitized and apparently Stalin thought he was depicted as too much of a pussy)
Stalin's bizarrely evenhanded about arts. I think the poet's fear of being a pseud probably stopped him from killing a lot more people in the arts. When the CIA were promoting Dr Zhivago to the Nobel committee and everyone in the Kremlin saw this as a massive international offensive (which it was) Stalin was like, meh, it's not that great of a book and great books aren't politically aligned anyways, can't we just leave the old guy alone and let him write romances in peace?
Half the time the way someone got out of the artist's gulag is they wrote something Stalin liked on literary merit, and then would ban.
I wasn't talking just about the purges, I meant the outlandish clusterfrick of the situation, like the politics and the chaos and stuff. Didn't Stalin's doctor get arrested and was about to be killed when he was suddenly told to go and treat Stalin after a stroke?
Beria's downfall was not due the NKVD opening fire on a crowd morning Stalin's passing nor did he kill 1500 people that day. That never happened. The event that was used against Beria was the East German uprising which only took around a 100 lives on both sides.
i havent seen it but from one scene i saw on youtube it looked like a mocking movie with no historical accuracy. no one even kills stalin ffs he died an old man
Stalin was a huge fan of westerns. Stalin the solitary, pitiless and Messianic egocentric seemed to associate himself with the lone cowboy riding shotgun into town to deal our brutal justice.
Stalin inherited Goebbels's movie library after the war; he loved Chaplin and films such as In Old Chicago (1937) and It Happened One Night (1934).
No rooskies irl are uglier and dumber
It’s a weirdly funny historical movie on how it happened, no wonder they made a comedy off on it
It's not historically accurate (timeline is condensed, the worst purges were done in the thirties etc.), but I think it captures the spirit of those times, the paranoia and the backstabbing. It's also really funny.
No, half of it is fiction.
It's mostly true
Why does my heart hurt after I jerk off? Really why?
>Someone quickly explain the current drama before the thread 404's.
OP here, this is an on-topic thread and I genuinely wanted to talk about this movie because I watched it recently
> Who is the wagner group and why is anything an issue
Private group of mercenaries fighting for Russia in Ukraine who have now turned against Putin and are on their way to Moscow
>Hey I just wanted to make an on topic thread BUT ill appease the shitposter by turning into an off topic post
You screwed up op, could’ve just ignored the /misc/ teen
I'm the opposite of /misc/ moron that's why I don't know what's going on
You could watch Eisensteins Ivan the Terrible, Stalin liked that czar and identified with him, but didn't like Eisensteins depiction of Ivan (it was rather sanitized and apparently Stalin thought he was depicted as too much of a pussy). In the movie Ivan says that a czar has to rule with a firm hand and a recurring theme is that the boyars are a vile and treacherous lot. Apparently this is a frequent motif in Russian culture, the czar is good, but the ministers are bad.
>(it was rather sanitized and apparently Stalin thought he was depicted as too much of a pussy)
Stalin's bizarrely evenhanded about arts. I think the poet's fear of being a pseud probably stopped him from killing a lot more people in the arts. When the CIA were promoting Dr Zhivago to the Nobel committee and everyone in the Kremlin saw this as a massive international offensive (which it was) Stalin was like, meh, it's not that great of a book and great books aren't politically aligned anyways, can't we just leave the old guy alone and let him write romances in peace?
Half the time the way someone got out of the artist's gulag is they wrote something Stalin liked on literary merit, and then would ban.
Stalin was also a kinoisseur and would have regular movie nights with the guys
IIRC, reality was actually worse than what was portrayed in the film.
No, it wasn't. The purges ended in 1938 and capital punishment was illegal from 1947 to 1950.
I wasn't talking just about the purges, I meant the outlandish clusterfrick of the situation, like the politics and the chaos and stuff. Didn't Stalin's doctor get arrested and was about to be killed when he was suddenly told to go and treat Stalin after a stroke?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors%27_plot
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Outside of the Doctor's Plot. The purges were over by then. The state was fully consolidated.
Stalin didn't die in 1950 you absolute buffoon
The Great Purge happened in the late 1930s. There was no great purge after that. In fact during the early 50s execution was hardly used.
cant wait for the sequel bros the death of putin
It's American propaganda
Beria's downfall was not due the NKVD opening fire on a crowd morning Stalin's passing nor did he kill 1500 people that day. That never happened. The event that was used against Beria was the East German uprising which only took around a 100 lives on both sides.
Oh thank goodness, now he just has all those rapes to answer for.
i havent seen it but from one scene i saw on youtube it looked like a mocking movie with no historical accuracy. no one even kills stalin ffs he died an old man
Sounds like you got filtered dummy
It's just banter.
>They had to remove like half his medals because they thought it would look to silly on screen
Kino
Stalin was a huge fan of westerns. Stalin the solitary, pitiless and Messianic egocentric seemed to associate himself with the lone cowboy riding shotgun into town to deal our brutal justice.
Stalin inherited Goebbels's movie library after the war; he loved Chaplin and films such as In Old Chicago (1937) and It Happened One Night (1934).
I wonder if Churchill and Stalin ever talked about Deanna Durbin
That's interesting. Hitler liked Disney films and identified with Frederick the great. Stalin liked cowboys and identified with Ivan the Terrible.