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>look bro I have a machine that can see the future

Ok so why didnt someone just…

1. Set the machine to look at yourself 10 seconds in the future

2. Tell yourself that in 10 seconds you will raise your right hand

3. When the machine shows you raising your right hand 10 seconds in the future, you instead raise your left hand, thus disproving that the machine can actually tell the future

How would this experiment NOT work??

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're presuming it wouldn't show you raising your left hand

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because devs is a dumb ripoff of a qntm story where that happens and including that scene would have set them up for a lawsuit https://qntm.org/responsibility

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      that was a really good short story. not op.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's prediction is based on a universe where you didn't have foreknowledge of what hand you raised

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, it's a pretty gay show

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because when you use the computer, you are collapsing the state
    >x|see self raise right hand> + y|see self not raise right hand>
    into the state
    >|see self raise right hand>
    (note that I left out the overall phase here since it's just a mathematical relic of this particular formulation)
    Now, your experiment to not raise your right hand after would put you in the state
    >|see self raise right hand>|not raise right hand>
    but an outside observer, for whom your wave function just before observation is
    >a|see self raise right hand>|raise right hand> + b|see self raise right hand>|not raise right hand> + c|see self not raise right hand>|raise right hand> + d|see self not raise right hand>|not raise right hand>
    because they're observing you and the values of all observables of self-adjoint operarors are eigenvalues, it is clear that the coefficients b and c must necessarily equal zero. So what you're saying is akin to asking "If classical mechanics predicts you can't be in both Japan and Egypt at the same time, why don't you just go tl Japan and then go to Egypt without leaving Japan?"

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      nerd

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      that is the nerdiest thing i've read in a while..
      It makes sense if you do some kind of true random thing e.g. if this particular partical with a half life of 10 minutes decay within the first 5 minutes i raise my right hand, if decay after 5 minutes i raise my left hand. You then observe yourself raising your right hand, i can see how this would "collapse the state", giving a 100% probability of decay within the first 5 minutes.

      But when we account for "free will" or whatever, you still have to raise your right hand. "for the next 5 minutes i will not raise my hand no matter what".. argghh, can't do it, because the quantum state has already collapsed.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Explain this like I’m moronic please

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        dey dunt fink it be like dat but it do

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    How the janny sees himself

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I watched like 3 episodes of this show, the second and third of which was just out of morbid curiosity because it was fricking dogshit. Unfortunately it never seemed to be going anywhere interesting and I stopped being curious and started feeling pissed off.
    I almost want to finish it, now. It would be my first time actually hate-watching something, which apparently is really in vogue. Plus, Cailee Spaeny makes my nub stuff.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought the last episode was basically that. The machine just made excellent predictions and all the others working on it were just too entrenched in the project and true believers, so when the machine said something about them, they acted along believing it was inevitable. The outsider protagonist wasn't a believer so she didn't give a hoot about the machine's predictions and acted accordingly to her free will.

    So the theme was basically that with enough computational power and information you can make an illusion that free will doesn't exist and many will believe that. But it ain't be like that after all.

    My thesis got btfo'd in the threads discussing this series back then though.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >acted accordingly to her free will.

      She acted as predicted

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        She didn't but the outcome was the same.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    If it can see the future, it can see you will raise your black left hand, you gorilla.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they make Nick Offerman look like Ryan Dunn?

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    They only hired people who believed in a determinist universe so therefore everyone involved would refuse to break the universe because their belief was unbreakable.
    The Asian lady was not a believer and thus when given a choice she broke it.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get why the tomboy had to jump. What would surviving prove that you couldn't prove in a non-dangerous way? It seemed unnecessary.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I freaking love the aesthetic of this show. Alex Garland has one of the best styles, for my taste.

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    This was the most self indulgent tripe I watched in a long time I'd like to roundhouse kick Alex Garland. He's still the same psuedo intellectual who wrote The Beach

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Beach
      Very comfy book

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    i only watched it for the flat-chested cutie, the plot was stupid.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    quantum computing is a scam

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >i'm so smart and everyone is so dumb hehe

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >they made the troon actually 41%'d itself
    Was Garland secretly based?

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    That doesn't disprove the machine works. That's linear thinking.

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