Hello fellow geezeranon! In the 80s the comic store clerk sold me Love and Rockets, but insisted on putting the issues in a brown paper bag. This was after he asked if my parents would come to the store and yell at him for selling a high schooler adult magazines, lol
I remember a karen wanting to buy the book ,but the LCS dude quickly shifted her attention to Groo. I suspect she thought the elves were sexy, but with the ultra christgays and tipper gore types affoot, you could'nt be too careful.
It was fap as frick wan't it?
An understatement. Remember, this is before internet porn, before Vertigo. Before manga was available in anywehere but little tokyo.
Was it good?
In the 1980's Arnold Conan The Barbarian/Beastmaster/ not afraid to be manly to the point of being gay, yes. This shit is older than Magic the Gathering and the Eisners.
Yes. Back in the 80's with Camelot 3000, Cerebus, Spiderman, Cloak and Dagger, Erma Felna EDF and Neil the Horse.
The titles I remember the most with this are the original run of the New Mutants, and the B+W Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles,
>the original run of the New Mutants
Claremont's run on that, regardless of artist, was an excellent series. >the B+W Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles
At its height, one of the greatest comics of its time. I think most of Cinemaphile would be shocked at how high quality that series sometimes was.
Oldgay here. The comics when tossed into their trade paperback form for the first time in the 1980s sold like crazy. This. Shit. Was. POPULAR. Frank Miller's Batman was a huge deal, but only a step below that was Elfquest for thick book purchases.
I liked the art, and I liked the stories, and I know it wasn't for everyone. But back then, with how insanely popular Conan and similar fantasy stories were, ElfQuest was right up there with them.
>I remember Elfquest being a kids book but became borderline incest porn in the 90s.
Didn’t the creator of Elfquest wrote rape and forceful breeding erotica before working the comic?
this guy was a massive creep that only got a pass for being an early self-published scene pusher.
as the years went on he only became more and more of a creep. his final comics were straight up /ss/ and femboy fetish comics.
>Didn’t the creator of Elfquest wrote rape and forceful breeding erotica before working the comic? >as the years went on he only became more and more of a creep. his final comics were straight up /ss/ and femboy fetish comics.
Um source?
I remember seeing an old Dragon magazine where Cutter was statted as like a Thief 15/Fighter 2, and his homie whose name I can’t remember was a Fighter 3. Why was Cutter so OP, is this the power of human pussy?
Yep. I read it growing up. They had it on the comics shelf at my library in full color, it was pretty fricking rad. Also I liked how it had a lot of buck ass, unrepentant nudity.
Wouldn't call the story or character a masterpiece or anything but they're serviceable. And pretty trippy.
They made a newer comic in the late 2000s or something and it was pretty bad. The art has gotten a lot lower quality and the teenage versions of their kids are near unbearable to read about. You can really tell that they don't actually have any passion for this shit anymore.
I've got all the donning collections. Waifu'd Aroree for awhile. Got the first of the father tree press ones but couldn't get into them. They were kind of lackluster and weren't the same with the new inker and colorist..
There were plans for a movie by Nelvana but that fell through when they semi-collapsed after Rock And Rule tanked..
Oh shit. Just thought of something. With the emergence of AI technology for voices, animation, and art... What are the chances some massive nerds will attempt an animated "fan created" series of the main story up to where the palace is claimed? I mean, in 8 or 10 years?
They had an animated series deal, they refused it because of executive demanded changes
They even made model sheets for it
Considering the contents of ElfQuest, I can definitely see where conflict arouse between the writers and the executives. The characters bumping uglies is a plot point more than a few times.
Anyone got the model sheets, at least?
I've got all the donning collections. Waifu'd Aroree for awhile. Got the first of the father tree press ones but couldn't get into them. They were kind of lackluster and weren't the same with the new inker and colorist..
There were plans for a movie by Nelvana but that fell through when they semi-collapsed after Rock And Rule tanked..
Aroree is a high test pick, I love the flying elves in general. Great designs.
They were actually more concerned about the interracial relationships, they wanted to make cutter's wife white, and his son more masculine or something like that
I got to the end of the first story arc where the elves find the Castle of the High Ones and discover that they're descended from space aliens, and decided the comic had gone far enough for me.
Oldgay here. The comics when tossed into their trade paperback form for the first time in the 1980s sold like crazy. This. Shit. Was. POPULAR. Frank Miller's Batman was a huge deal, but only a step below that was Elfquest for thick book purchases.
I liked the art, and I liked the stories, and I know it wasn't for everyone. But back then, with how insanely popular Conan and similar fantasy stories were, ElfQuest was right up there with them.
A guy and his wife apparently were the "creeps" who made the comic series, and they're still happily married to this day
>his final comics were straight up /ss/ and femboy fetish comics.
Pics?
I think anon is confusing Wendy and Richard Pini (the couple who invented ElfQuest) with late Barry Blair who apparently worked as an artist and writer for the series and later made some "straight up /ss/ and femboy fetish comics" as anon so elegantly put it. Blair had rather Pini-inspired artstyle so the confusion is understandable.
It would have taken two minutes out of your life to Google and make sure you knew who you were talking about, and not look like a fricking moron.
We live in the information age, we have access to the sum total of human knowledge in our hands everywhere we go, and you still get utter fricking gonks like this pillock who still have to yell some shit they think they know into your ear like its a real thing. Like that one frick who still tells anyone who listens that Marilyn Manson was the kid from the Wonder Years. It's been how many years and you never looked that one up, did you? Fricking c**t.
Yeah, I think they were supposed to look a bit like some garden gnome/imp/elf mix. Later when we see some humans, drawn normally, it really drives it home how different they are
Just my opinion, but the anatomy looks wonky, the foreshortening looks off, and the faces are weird and the ponytail-and-fluffy-bangs hairstyle on the male lead looks like something that an 80's female mallrat would wear.
>but the anatomy looks wonky, the foreshortening looks off,
It's reasonable to have qualms like that,but ultimately to make so many comics you're going to have some wonkiness here or there. As for the anatomy, it's no different than a lot ofother more cartoony styles. I think a lot of armchair artists sweat "proper" anatomy too much. > the faces are weird and the ponytail-and-fluffy-bangs hairstyle
Again feels like armchair artist critique. The hair especially seems like a stupid critique, it's interesting and cool looking.I hate how American comics can't have interesting hair like JP stuff because people critique it most of the time.
My library had this and I was always kind of interested but not interested enough to actually take it home. Maybe also because I was embarrassed by the art a bit.
Nothing wrong with the art. It's honestly better than most capeshit "art". More than that, it's dynamic and pretty enough that I was able to read through it without giving up, and that's something I cannot say for capeshit comics. As a manga reader, Elfquest is one of the few western comics I actually enjoyed.
You misunderstand. It's not that the art was bad, but it was different. I guess kid-me was afraid people would accuse me of reading girly comics with barely clothed elves. I'd rather be seen with more "manly" comics.
Manly comics full of muscled men are aimed at gay men actually, at least in Japan. Adult heterosexual men read iyashikei manga, aka "cute girls doing cute things". Pic related is published in a seinen (adult men's) magazine, it's tired-from-work salarymen reading this, not naive sheltered kids.
The 80s was the best decade for American indie comics. It's a shame that Cinemaphile (and the rest of modern comics fandom) seems to think that indie comics began with Image. There were DOZENS of indie publishers in the 80s and some titles were reasonably successful even by the standards of the time (meaning they'd be mega-hits by modern standards).
And as for the rest of you, God forbid any of you should actually read the thing you're talking about, maybe if you just hang around Cinemaphile some more someone will give you an opinion you can parrot.
Christ, now you've done it, you pissed me off so much I'm starting to sound like Harlan Ellison.
Oh shit these are the full color ones too. Based anon. I see a lot of b&w comics brought to color that look awful but Elfquest always looked fricking gorgeous in color. Remember reading the full color tomes when they where shelved at my library. Reading the black and white ones afterword felt so weird, though they definitely have their charm as well. Still couldn't get past that they never shaded the Sun Folk's skin. Felt so weird to see unshaded Leetah.
Thanks for the link. I already was re-reading the black and white ones but these color ones are great.
Yes. Back in the 80s. It was a strange time.
t. geezeranon.
It was fap as frick wan't it?
Was it good?
Hello fellow geezeranon! In the 80s the comic store clerk sold me Love and Rockets, but insisted on putting the issues in a brown paper bag. This was after he asked if my parents would come to the store and yell at him for selling a high schooler adult magazines, lol
I remember a karen wanting to buy the book ,but the LCS dude quickly shifted her attention to Groo. I suspect she thought the elves were sexy, but with the ultra christgays and tipper gore types affoot, you could'nt be too careful.
An understatement. Remember, this is before internet porn, before Vertigo. Before manga was available in anywehere but little tokyo.
In the 1980's Arnold Conan The Barbarian/Beastmaster/ not afraid to be manly to the point of being gay, yes. This shit is older than Magic the Gathering and the Eisners.
The titles I remember the most with this are the original run of the New Mutants, and the B+W Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles,
>but the LCS dude quickly shifted her attention to Groo
based clerk, I hope he did that with every customer
>the original run of the New Mutants
Claremont's run on that, regardless of artist, was an excellent series.
>the B+W Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles
At its height, one of the greatest comics of its time. I think most of Cinemaphile would be shocked at how high quality that series sometimes was.
Yes. Back in the 80's with Camelot 3000, Cerebus, Spiderman, Cloak and Dagger, Erma Felna EDF and Neil the Horse.
Never heard of the last one before, checking it out
Neil the Horse was pretty well known as far as "alternative comics" went back in the day.
I remember Elfquest being a kids book but became borderline incest porn in the 90s.
>I remember Elfquest being a kids book but became borderline incest porn in the 90s.
Didn’t the creator of Elfquest wrote rape and forceful breeding erotica before working the comic?
All women do that, what's so special about Wendy Pini? All women's romance is rape erotica.
Female creator, female audience, that's perfectly normal.
>Didn’t the creator of Elfquest wrote rape and forceful breeding erotica before working the comic?
>as the years went on he only became more and more of a creep. his final comics were straight up /ss/ and femboy fetish comics.
Um source?
No source, anon is confusing a man who made another comic with the woman who made Elfquest.
it was never a kids book. From the getgo it was full of nudity and blood.
And one of the guest artists, barry blair, was an unironic pedo boylover
I always thought the art was ugly as sin
The best I can say about it is that at least it's not by Foglio.
It isn't?
No. Foglio did the art for MythAdventures, another comic published by Warp Graphics
I read so many of these books as a kid.
It reminds me of Barry Blair, I don't want to be reminded of Barry Blair.
don't really see the resemblance. Yours looks western (it's the nose), the original art could pass for manga
I did. I liked it well enough.
Personally, I’m more of a Wizards fan myself.
I know that its free online.
I mean, it already would be anyway, and in convenient .cbr format instead of clicking page by page like some webcomic
I remember seeing an old Dragon magazine where Cutter was statted as like a Thief 15/Fighter 2, and his homie whose name I can’t remember was a Fighter 3. Why was Cutter so OP, is this the power of human pussy?
Yep. I read it growing up. They had it on the comics shelf at my library in full color, it was pretty fricking rad. Also I liked how it had a lot of buck ass, unrepentant nudity.
Wouldn't call the story or character a masterpiece or anything but they're serviceable. And pretty trippy.
I only see one eldar and one drukhari that need to be purged.
From what I understand, it has about three or four different endings, because the creators need to pay for a new house extension or something.
They made a newer comic in the late 2000s or something and it was pretty bad. The art has gotten a lot lower quality and the teenage versions of their kids are near unbearable to read about. You can really tell that they don't actually have any passion for this shit anymore.
They really wanted an animated series and are upset it never happened
I've got all the donning collections. Waifu'd Aroree for awhile. Got the first of the father tree press ones but couldn't get into them. They were kind of lackluster and weren't the same with the new inker and colorist..
There were plans for a movie by Nelvana but that fell through when they semi-collapsed after Rock And Rule tanked..
They had an animated series deal, they refused it because of executive demanded changes
They even made model sheets for it
Ah found one
Oh shit. Just thought of something. With the emergence of AI technology for voices, animation, and art... What are the chances some massive nerds will attempt an animated "fan created" series of the main story up to where the palace is claimed? I mean, in 8 or 10 years?
Considering the contents of ElfQuest, I can definitely see where conflict arouse between the writers and the executives. The characters bumping uglies is a plot point more than a few times.
Anyone got the model sheets, at least?
Aroree is a high test pick, I love the flying elves in general. Great designs.
They were actually more concerned about the interracial relationships, they wanted to make cutter's wife white, and his son more masculine or something like that
lmao jesus of all their concerns, it was THAT? I'd walk out too.
The Did production work for an Elric movie as well.
Few things are as gay as elfquest
I got to the end of the first story arc where the elves find the Castle of the High Ones and discover that they're descended from space aliens, and decided the comic had gone far enough for me.
Oldgay here. The comics when tossed into their trade paperback form for the first time in the 1980s sold like crazy. This. Shit. Was. POPULAR. Frank Miller's Batman was a huge deal, but only a step below that was Elfquest for thick book purchases.
I liked the art, and I liked the stories, and I know it wasn't for everyone. But back then, with how insanely popular Conan and similar fantasy stories were, ElfQuest was right up there with them.
>The comics when tossed into their trade paperback form for the first time in the 1980s sold like crazy.
Yeah, it was one of the first series with really hugely successful trades.
What would you do in this situation?
Shooter allowed a comic with fricking?
Epic was not shooter's juridistinction. He delegated the whole line to goodwin and let it go on for as long as it sold.
He did believe it was a wasted effort. Edwin (and starlin + elfquest) proved him wrong.
Epic also had Groo, which ran for a DECADE.
Kill the hostile invaders from space.
I had a copy on my mangashelf
I never really read it, it was.. alot.
this guy was a massive creep that only got a pass for being an early self-published scene pusher.
as the years went on he only became more and more of a creep. his final comics were straight up /ss/ and femboy fetish comics.
A guy and his wife apparently were the "creeps" who made the comic series, and they're still happily married to this day
wouldn't want to be those two's kids.
Why do you assume every heterosexual couple must have kids? Wendy and Richard Pini don't have any children.
>his final comics were straight up /ss/ and femboy fetish comics.
Pics?
I think anon is confusing Wendy and Richard Pini (the couple who invented ElfQuest) with late Barry Blair who apparently worked as an artist and writer for the series and later made some "straight up /ss/ and femboy fetish comics" as anon so elegantly put it. Blair had rather Pini-inspired artstyle so the confusion is understandable.
It would have taken two minutes out of your life to Google and make sure you knew who you were talking about, and not look like a fricking moron.
We live in the information age, we have access to the sum total of human knowledge in our hands everywhere we go, and you still get utter fricking gonks like this pillock who still have to yell some shit they think they know into your ear like its a real thing. Like that one frick who still tells anyone who listens that Marilyn Manson was the kid from the Wonder Years. It's been how many years and you never looked that one up, did you? Fricking c**t.
ElfQuest was shockingly popular in the 80s and was in every public library in America in trades during the 90s.
It's weird how obscure it's become.
because it's ugly and people memory hole ugly looking things.
Why do people itt say that the art is ugly? It looks good to me. This is not what I call ugly art.
Faces and bodies are uncanny valley makes sense elves, I see where some anons are coming from.
I don't see the uncanny valley. Must be because I'm used to manga.
I'm use to manga man but it has uncanny vibe weird doll faces.
Still don't see it. They look like standard fantasy in the 80's.
Yeah, I think they were supposed to look a bit like some garden gnome/imp/elf mix. Later when we see some humans, drawn normally, it really drives it home how different they are
Just my opinion, but the anatomy looks wonky, the foreshortening looks off, and the faces are weird and the ponytail-and-fluffy-bangs hairstyle on the male lead looks like something that an 80's female mallrat would wear.
You do you, man. I like it. Can't say the same for other american comics.
>but the anatomy looks wonky, the foreshortening looks off,
It's reasonable to have qualms like that,but ultimately to make so many comics you're going to have some wonkiness here or there. As for the anatomy, it's no different than a lot ofother more cartoony styles. I think a lot of armchair artists sweat "proper" anatomy too much.
> the faces are weird and the ponytail-and-fluffy-bangs hairstyle
Again feels like armchair artist critique. The hair especially seems like a stupid critique, it's interesting and cool looking.I hate how American comics can't have interesting hair like JP stuff because people critique it most of the time.
Axel Rose and other famous hair metal rockers at the time wore their hair just like Cutter kek
This character made me feel funny
>You’re in her DM’s
>I’m letting green corrupt me
Yes but most of them are too much of the genuinely oldgay type or too much of the hippie-dippie type to browse Cinemaphile.
My library had this and I was always kind of interested but not interested enough to actually take it home. Maybe also because I was embarrassed by the art a bit.
Nothing wrong with the art. It's honestly better than most capeshit "art". More than that, it's dynamic and pretty enough that I was able to read through it without giving up, and that's something I cannot say for capeshit comics. As a manga reader, Elfquest is one of the few western comics I actually enjoyed.
You misunderstand. It's not that the art was bad, but it was different. I guess kid-me was afraid people would accuse me of reading girly comics with barely clothed elves. I'd rather be seen with more "manly" comics.
Manly comics full of muscled men are aimed at gay men actually, at least in Japan. Adult heterosexual men read iyashikei manga, aka "cute girls doing cute things". Pic related is published in a seinen (adult men's) magazine, it's tired-from-work salarymen reading this, not naive sheltered kids.
My school library had a copy of one of the volumes. I thought that the concept was fine but the art looked amateurish.
Poison Elvis always seem cooler, shame the creator died young.
In my country it had some sorta weird/cult following.
I've read first book, it was okay, but I never bothered to buy/read the rest.
How twink do the elves get?
The 80s was the best decade for American indie comics. It's a shame that Cinemaphile (and the rest of modern comics fandom) seems to think that indie comics began with Image. There were DOZENS of indie publishers in the 80s and some titles were reasonably successful even by the standards of the time (meaning they'd be mega-hits by modern standards).
My mom liked it. That's the only reason I've even heard of it.
I've seen it storytimed here a few times.
Yes. It's really quite good if you read it at the right age and time in your life.
Yeah. The original Quest (so until they find the palace) is one of my favourite comics of all time.
I might read it eventually.
I actually have a lot of the proper run in hardcover anthologies somewhere
https://elfquest.com/reading-room/
And as for the rest of you, God forbid any of you should actually read the thing you're talking about, maybe if you just hang around Cinemaphile some more someone will give you an opinion you can parrot.
Christ, now you've done it, you pissed me off so much I'm starting to sound like Harlan Ellison.
I will later, anon. Thanks though.
Oh shit these are the full color ones too. Based anon. I see a lot of b&w comics brought to color that look awful but Elfquest always looked fricking gorgeous in color. Remember reading the full color tomes when they where shelved at my library. Reading the black and white ones afterword felt so weird, though they definitely have their charm as well. Still couldn't get past that they never shaded the Sun Folk's skin. Felt so weird to see unshaded Leetah.
Thanks for the link. I already was re-reading the black and white ones but these color ones are great.