Did anyone understand what Gimli was about here? What else would they call it? Isn't that why the Dwarves were in Moria, to mine mithril and other precious gems and metals?
Did anyone understand what Gimli was about here? What else would they call it?
It's like calling Rohan a paddock
It's also kind of an underground mansion/palace, with probably the best dwarven handiwork since Beleriand was sunk. To say "it's a mine" is demeaning
I didn't even see any fricking beds or bedrooms!
Gandalf wasn't a very good tour guide and only showed them the highway
>It's also kind of an underground mansion/palace
It's literally an entire country.
and yet it had only a handful of entries and exits
what do they eat
>what do they eat
Your mom.
Maybe they grew mushrooms and shit and just continually shipped in supplies?
It is literally, expressly told that they have traded which whoever was reachable.
Right it says in The Hobbit that they mostly exchanged goods for food, that's how Dale was established.
>and yet it had only a handful of entries and exits
It was also a fortress.
and yet a whole country has no more exit points than a medieval city
Because medieval cities were also often fortresses...
they were semi-frequently under siege just like a castle yes. that is what the walls were for.
At any rate it doesn't take three days to walk from one end of a city to another. It was bigger than that.
if you look at a map you will see that the fellowship went through moria the shortest distance, we don't know how long the kingdom stretches northwards, southwards, you know the directions the mountainchain actually goes.
>we don't know how long the kingdom stretches northwards, southwards, you know the directions the mountainchain actually goes.
Yeah that's my point Moria is an entire country, someone earlier called it a "manor/palace".
Yeah, it used to be a hell of a lot more fancy. They were just trying to sneak through the easiest path not sightseeing. And remember 'Moria' is a derogatory term for it meaning 'Black Pit'. During its heyday, the Dwarves had called it Khazad-dum and Dwarrowdelf
Yeah we didn't see none of this shit in the movie. Is it described like this in the book?
My favorite poem in the book describes it in its heyday somewhat.
The world was young, the mountains green,
No stain yet on the Moon was seen,
No words were laid on stream or stone
When Durin woke and walked alone.
He named the nameless hills and dells;
He drank from yet untasted wells;
He stooped and looked in Mirrormere,
And saw a crown of stars appear,
As gems upon a silver thread,
Above the shadow of his head.
The world was fair, the mountains tall,
In Elder Days before the fall
Of mighty kings in Nargothrond
And Gondolin, who now beyond
The Western Seas have passed away:
The world was fair in Durin's Day.
A king he was on carven throne
In many-pillared halls of stone
With golden roof and silver floor,
And runes of power upon the door.
The light of sun and star and moon
In shining lamps of crystal hewn
Undimmed by cloud or shade of night
There shone for ever fair and bright.
There hammer on the anvil smote,
There chisel clove, and graver wrote;
There forged was blade, and bound was hilt;
The delver mined, the mason built.
There beryl, pearl, and opal pale,
And metal wrought like fishes' mail,
Buckler and corslet, axe and sword,
And shining spears were laid in hoard.
Unwearied then were Durin's folk;
Beneath the mountains music woke:
The harpers harped, the minstrels sang,
And at the gates the trumpets rang.
The world is grey, the mountains old,
The forge's fire is ashen-cold;
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls:
The darkness dwells in Durin's halls;
The shadow lies upon his tomb
In Moria, in Khazad-dûm.
But still the sunken stars appear
In dark and windless Mirrormere;
There lies his crown in water deep,
Till Durin wakes again from sleep.
They do show some of it, but like I mentioned they weren't trying to sight see but to stay unnoticed. Gandalf even mentions its name Dwarrowdelf in the movie. And yes, it was the Dwarves greatest city and one of the richest cities in Middle Earth. Before the Balrog fricked it good.
Very cool
He was commenting on the fact that this giant dwarven palace was still called "a mine" despite the fact that most of them lived in opulence like a king in a castle. How did you not pick up on this?
mine has a connotation of a little dirty cave tunnel
so? still seems to be spot on to me
you gotta understand homes. that cave midget was hearing that his cave was for the streets and shit. like it didn't belong to him no more. he had to tell the block it was his
>If we cannot go through the Mines or Moria then let us go under them! we should make for the Cave of Nutty Putty
Why was everyone just dicking around? imagine having moria ripe for the picking, just aggro the balrog and kite him to rivendell or lorien or something, meanwhile your mates plunder moria, boom profit.
>meanwhile your mates plunder moria
It was infested with Orcs who had already looted every passage they could find that wasn't flooded. They gave everything in tribute to Sauron.
Those ones weren't working for Sauron. They were just hanging out in Moria and the surrounding area.
Tolkien explicitly wrote in the appendices that Sauron got the all the mithril from Moria readlet.
then why did he have this shitty black armour? why wasn't anyone decked out in mithril?
>why wasn't anyone decked out in mithril?
It was his mithril.
anglos cannot write
It might have started as a mine, but became a home and a place that held history and culture within
sweet mine bro, no chance of knocking your head or having to bend over down here
nice engineering skills with the billion pillars
It's literally a city.