Okay, wait so if nuclear war happened in 2007 and the year is 2024 then why does this lady say "year of our lord 103." That would imply the calendar they use starts in 1921.
A lot of authors who put erotic content in their stories only want their exact level and criteria of erotica, and when someone else handles their property and injects their own erotic preferences into it, the original creator feels like his work is being molested.
The dialogue is cheesier in the movie's ending. The boy says "I couldn't help her getting all wet brained over me" and then the dog says "she.. had particularly good taste." He disliked the dialogue they wrote for that scene.
Line is literally the opposite of that moron > Well, I'd say she certainly had marvelous judgment, Albert, if not particularly good taste.
By your moronic logic every films entire plot is a lead up to the final line.
See above. Ellison hated the dialogue they wrote for the film especially the line you just cited.
Yea I know Ellison disliked the dialogue in the last scene, everyone who’s seen the film knows that. That doesn’t mean the entire film was just a ploy to shoehorn in that specific pun…
Yeah you get it. Him falling in love with her is supposed to be complete reverse of the opening where he comes across a dead woman's body and he is pissed off that it was cut up so bad he couldn't even cum inside it (They didn't have to do that to her! She could a been used two or three more times!) The ending is supposed to be him learning to actually value another person specifically a woman and then being forced against his will to take her life for his dog.
I absolutely see why he was pissed off about that rewrite.
So basically Clockwork Orange >author has cult classic story >options to Hollywood for film >film does a decent job adapting the work >butchers the ending and ruins the entire theme of the story
Many such cases
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Which ending are you referring to, aren't their two to the book?
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nta but the book usually ends with Alex reverting to his persona at the beginning of the book, but the "lost" last chapter has him thinking about how he wants kids and he shouldn't be a sociopath.
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>Alex reverting to his persona
Isn't that basically what the film does?
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Yeah, the "lost" chapter has him do a last-second heel-face turn that's genuine (not compelled by the brainwashing).
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I think only the US version of the book omitted the actual ending (him running into Pete in a cafe and realizing he’d matured naturally as opposed to being forced) because the US publisher was moronic and didn’t understand the books message. Kubrick then used that version and was unaware of the actual ending until production on the film was nearly complete. He decided not to use it anyway because he wanted the film to end on an edgy note.
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It was a good decision. Books don't deserve their themes translated if they're dumb themes.
Also iirc at the beginning he threatens to leave Blood and tells him that his ability to sense women's wombs is the only reason he keeps him around. That fight is supposed to be echoed in him killing Qulla June Holmes for him to eat.
Line is literally the opposite of that moron > Well, I'd say she certainly had marvelous judgment, Albert, if not particularly good taste.
By your moronic logic every films entire plot is a lead up to the final line.
>Radioactive Dreams had already directly inspired the 1988 game Wasteland, with Fallout executive producer Brian Fargo explaining to PC Gamer that his obsession with the apocalypse would then feed into his next creation. “Shortly after finishing the Wasteland game, Interplay became a publisher and we no longer created games for other people,” he said. “I tried to get EA to license me the rights back, but I was unable to succeed despite trying for many years. I finally decided we’d do our own post-apocalyptic game and call it Fallout.”
Wow you were right
Two guys raised in a bomb shelter on 1950s noir pulp novels are dumped into the post-apoc raider wasteland and end up holding the macguffin.
Also there is a music video for the band that did the soundtrack in the middle of the movie. It's great because it just happens and doesn't attempt to justify itself.
It heavily inspired Fallout.
No because it’s actually kino
If you guys haven't seen World Without End (1956) you should.
Added it to my watchlist, thanks for the rec.
I'm gonna watch it again right now.
how good is it? or is it 50s shlock
50s schlock but has a lot of stuff that's become staples of the genre since then.
it's good 50s schlock
So where is my telepathic dog?
It was the schizophrenia
Any day now.
At the animal shelter, go pick him up.
Okay, wait so if nuclear war happened in 2007 and the year is 2024 then why does this lady say "year of our lord 103." That would imply the calendar they use starts in 1921.
Offshoot of an actual religious revival movement from 1921?
Crazy they made a movie about a New Vegas melee build
looks kino and it's free on youtube.
It’s pretty fun what it is, just accept that nothing in it makes any sense and try to enjoy the ride
What was his problem?
>inb4 lack of respect and the wrong attitude. Failure to obey authority
he just wanted to lay some pipe
Can someone explain why Harlan Ellison hated this movie so much?
A lot of authors who put erotic content in their stories only want their exact level and criteria of erotica, and when someone else handles their property and injects their own erotic preferences into it, the original creator feels like his work is being molested.
The movie isn't that good and the entire point of it is a lead up to a really lame pun at the end.
>she didn't have very good TASTE
I liked it
Iirc Ellison thought the pun at the very end cheapened the rest of the movie.
But it's literally the same ending
Nooooooo you have to imply it you can't outright say they ate her it cheapens the boner
The dialogue is cheesier in the movie's ending. The boy says "I couldn't help her getting all wet brained over me" and then the dog says "she.. had particularly good taste." He disliked the dialogue they wrote for that scene.
See above. Ellison hated the dialogue they wrote for the film especially the line you just cited.
Yea I know Ellison disliked the dialogue in the last scene, everyone who’s seen the film knows that. That doesn’t mean the entire film was just a ploy to shoehorn in that specific pun…
Elison fricking hated anything that he couldn't come up with and hated when someone else did.
No, the kid is torn up about because he just demolished what was left of any morals inside him. The movie turns it into a joke.
Yeah you get it. Him falling in love with her is supposed to be complete reverse of the opening where he comes across a dead woman's body and he is pissed off that it was cut up so bad he couldn't even cum inside it (They didn't have to do that to her! She could a been used two or three more times!) The ending is supposed to be him learning to actually value another person specifically a woman and then being forced against his will to take her life for his dog.
I absolutely see why he was pissed off about that rewrite.
So basically Clockwork Orange
>author has cult classic story
>options to Hollywood for film
>film does a decent job adapting the work
>butchers the ending and ruins the entire theme of the story
Many such cases
Which ending are you referring to, aren't their two to the book?
nta but the book usually ends with Alex reverting to his persona at the beginning of the book, but the "lost" last chapter has him thinking about how he wants kids and he shouldn't be a sociopath.
>Alex reverting to his persona
Isn't that basically what the film does?
Yeah, the "lost" chapter has him do a last-second heel-face turn that's genuine (not compelled by the brainwashing).
I think only the US version of the book omitted the actual ending (him running into Pete in a cafe and realizing he’d matured naturally as opposed to being forced) because the US publisher was moronic and didn’t understand the books message. Kubrick then used that version and was unaware of the actual ending until production on the film was nearly complete. He decided not to use it anyway because he wanted the film to end on an edgy note.
It was a good decision. Books don't deserve their themes translated if they're dumb themes.
Is she not a total b***h the whole time in the book?
Also iirc at the beginning he threatens to leave Blood and tells him that his ability to sense women's wombs is the only reason he keeps him around. That fight is supposed to be echoed in him killing Qulla June Holmes for him to eat.
Line is literally the opposite of that moron
> Well, I'd say she certainly had marvelous judgment, Albert, if not particularly good taste.
By your moronic logic every films entire plot is a lead up to the final line.
The movie is great. Possibly the greatest post-apocalyptic film.
No, but this and Atomic Cafe were inspirations
Never played the Fallout games but cultural osmosis makes me think Radioactive Dreams might have been an inspiration as well.
>Radioactive Dreams had already directly inspired the 1988 game Wasteland, with Fallout executive producer Brian Fargo explaining to PC Gamer that his obsession with the apocalypse would then feed into his next creation. “Shortly after finishing the Wasteland game, Interplay became a publisher and we no longer created games for other people,” he said. “I tried to get EA to license me the rights back, but I was unable to succeed despite trying for many years. I finally decided we’d do our own post-apocalyptic game and call it Fallout.”
Wow you were right
I have Radioactive Dreams on VHS
Jesus Christ, I'm sure I watched this because of this factoid but I cannot remember a fricking thing about it
Two guys raised in a bomb shelter on 1950s noir pulp novels are dumped into the post-apoc raider wasteland and end up holding the macguffin.
Also there is a music video for the band that did the soundtrack in the middle of the movie. It's great because it just happens and doesn't attempt to justify itself.
Will check these out.
Atomic Cafe's on Youtube btw