I do remember watching Return of the Jedi when I was young, and I remember the opening crawl being green, which made sense because Luke's new lightsaber were also green. This was in effect up until around 2010 when it suddemnly looked like every other episode's and no one else could recall this. It's not bad memories either because being poor as frick, having no internet and no PS at the time I was rewatching this movie whenever I got sick or was bored and my friends weren't available at the moment.
Do you have any memories like this?
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Show or movie. Sorry got a moron moment
yes a couple at least, but at the moment can't recall what they were
I remember talking about them on here before
Speaking of Star Wars, I distinctly remember Maul's lightsaber being cut in half in the final fight of Phantom Menace, and he then uses one half like a conventional single bladed saber.
Wait the frick that didn't happen? I'm pretty sure that is still in the movie
b8
Here. You remember correctly.
He does. He has a single blade in Clone Wars (then dual qields with Darksaber) and tgen uses inquisitot blade parts in Rebels to make q double saberm
I checked the 16mm Telecine version on archive and it also has a yellow crawl.
You're right, it is in the movie. Not sure why I thought it wasn't
That's literally exactly what happens in every released cut of the movie. That's why you and everyone else remembers it. The other end causes damage and fire to the area of the wall where it lands.
Hi OP. I have the 4K83 copy which is basically an attempt at restoring the original theatre version of RotJ and this is the only green text in the beginning.
The crawl is yellow like the new versions, but it has been redone so the paragraphing and length is different.
This is the crawl.
Thanks for the info. I'm also looking forward to the restoration in 4K
It was VHS, so it might make sense, but I remember every yellow being proper yellow except for the crawl.
It was a pirated version, but I don't understand why they would only change the colour of the opening but everything else is the same.
I posted the green text because my theory is your kid memories have combined the colour of the 'Lucasfilm Limited' text with the crawl.
Memories are far more fluid than we think.
I mean if it was pirates it might just be that part of the video was fricked up.
Did you have one of those front-projector tvs? Some rich kid I knew had one and the colors were off on any tape we watched on it.
Just go to any torrent site like rarbg and search for ”4K77” and ”4k83”.
4K80 (empire strikes back) isn’t ready yet.
Brooo0 where can I see that or the other og theater cuts?
Go here and look for what you want
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/An-Index-Of-Projects-Help-Thread-for-Star-Wars-Preservations/id/57297
After you find what you’re looking for, join the forum. There are instructions on how to download the files. I downloaded D+77 for example, which is a hybrid between the Disney+ version, the Project 4K77, and Harmy Despecialized version I believe.
Your copy of the movie was defective. This never happened.
Maybe it was tv color setting.
most likely the reason
Do we really need two threads about Star Wars Mandela effects?
I remember the cornucopia and I live the UK where they aren't even a thing.
Same. I grew up in Aus and there was only really FOTL stuff at fabric and heberdashery stores. I distinctly remember being at a store with my mum in 99 or 2000, and there was a FOTL display and I was excited to point out the cornucopia to her as I had just learned what one was. It is a vivid memory as I had learned it from a game about ancient Greece and I thought of it every time I played that game
yea the second degree evidence is always the best, because it might make sense misremembering something directly, but it makes absolutely no sense to have barely correlated memories about something that never existed (allegedly)
Another good example is the Mona Lisa smile
While I can't directly confirm the painting used to look different, as I might misremember it, I do remember attending an entire class in highschool about how her smile was so unique because people couldn't tell if she was smiling or not etc or how it was so masterful because it was ever so subtle
The professor kept droning on and on about it
Alledgely that was the official explanation for why an otherwise mediocre Leonardo was so famous
But now it is because it got stolen at some point
>her smile was so unique because people couldn't tell if she was smiling or not etc or how it was so masterful because it was ever so subtle
but that is the reality of it, the Mandela Effect is that she really is smiling.
no anon you might have switched timeline recently
in this timeline the smile is very evident, unless you're joking
yeah, and this evidently smiling Mona Lisa is the one all the journalists, art historians, psychologists etc. refer to when talking about the ambiguity of the smile. No Mandela Effect there, unless you really remember seeing a non-smiling Mona Lisa.
I also remember as kid hearing about how mysterious and ambiguous Mona Lisa's smile is, and it's generally something that is discussed:
https://www.siasat.com/mona-lisas-smile-not-genuine-researchers-1504063/
https://psmag.com/news/mona-lisas-smile-isnt-so-ambiguous-after-all
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170313105901.htm
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/mona-lisa-smile-happy-sad-scientists-a7626671.html
it doesn't contradict the "non-Mandela Effect" smiling Mona Lisa painting as we know it
I don't understand what you guys are even saying, in this reality, is the smile ambiguous or not?
Is the Mandela effect that IT USED TO BE non ambiguous?
I'm so confused right now, why would anyone doubt she smiles if she is clearly smiling in this reality? Almost smirking?
dunno, all I'm saying is that having memories of the ambiguity of her smile being discussed does not contradict the "current timeline" version of the Mona Lisa. Actually remembering seeing a non-smiling version is another thing.
this makes no sense, I have been talking and reading about Mandela Effect for years, and this is the first time the ambiguity is recognized
I even googled it right now, and now people say that the mandela effect is that she wasn't smiling at all
Last time I talked about this, and all the times before, the mandela effect was that her smile used to be subtle (like in my memories), but people kept saying that never happened and calling the mandela effect people crazy for it
I also found this reddit thread with people arguing all sorts of different things, some still remember the old mandela effect https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/pxtycx/why_mona_lisa_smile_in_not_me/
This happened for another Mandela Effect too, like some months back, but that was a simple flip-flop, with the Mandela Effect I brought up being actually the norm again
Can't remember what it was on the spot tho
The smile has always been elusive and dependant on the viewer and emotions. That is why the painting is famous in the first place. It isn't an overly good painting otherwise. The whole thing is he nailed the perfect middle ground where she will look happy or sad depending on what you are feeling or thinking about.
The term Mona Lisa smile is about that type of expression
But where I "come from" that wasn't true, and the Mandela Effect was that it was never ambiguous, with people saying it was being called schizos
That's wild. It is the entire reason the painting is famous. I've seen it in person and the tour guides give the whole speach about how she will reflect the viewers' emotions
>That's wild. It is the entire reason the painting is famous
that's what I kept telling people!
But they kept saying it was famous because it was stolen or somesuch
See here:
My highschool lecture memory was anomalous because nobody remembered the ambiguity until idk maybe a few months back?
I remember talking about it here in other threads many times
Also here, the first poster is saying what you're saying, that the mona lisa in his "timeline" used NOT to smile, and the second poster is saying that in her reality she was always the same and being ambiguous
But in my timeline, at first it was ambiguous like now in this timeline, but there were entire years when nobody except mandela schizos remembered that
I have never ever heard somebody say she had no smile at all ever in any Mandela thread/forum/post before today
since we're kids we're bombarded with how "mysterious" and "ambiguous" Mona Lisa's smile is, what a genius DaVinci was with how he painted her, there's always articles about scientists analyzing the picture to understand her expression, etc. That hasn't changed. Your memory matches the current timeline.
but it didn't match the previous timeline where our current Mona Lisa reality was the mandela effect
It's like if on the next Mandela thread tomorrow then fruit of the loops HAD the cornucopia again, and people told
>bro what are u talking about, it always had it, the mandela effect is that it used not to have it (or that the cornucopia was a basket or whatever)
that sounds like a deeply disturbing experience anon, I would probably check myself to a mental health clinic if I woke up one day and learned that an entire chunk of my memories turned out to be false. Hope you find your answers.
They aren't false though
For sure. That's why the FOTL one is the most solid Mandela Effect for me (besides the actual Mandela one, as I was surrounded by white South African immigrants in Aus and remember him dying earlier and it was a big deal)
>The brand wasn't big. They only really sold black shirts for home printing at fabric stores, they didn't supply normal clothes in Aus until recently.
>The game i learned about the cornucopia from is in my top 5 most hours played, and I have played it nearly every year for the last 22 years, always reminding me of that picture.
>The next time I saw that logo was when i got a band tshirt in about 2005, and it had the cornucopia. This also stood out to me as it was the first time I had owned any FOTL as they were still exclusively blanks and band shirts in Aus at that time. I even pointed it out to my mum.
>Fast forward another 10-15 years and I live in the US and FOTL is everywhere and I just assumed they changed their logo or it was region specific, until I hear about this bullshit
Did it really look like this? Sometimes seeing a recreation of the Mandela Effect memory makes me realize it's a false memory and I never actually saw it.
Yeah basically, but i remember the cornucopia a bit taller and more centered.
I will post this in every one of these threads.
Pic related is 1973 album flute of the loom.
The artist when questioned explicitly stated the cornucopia was the inspiration for the flute and it wouldn't have made sense otherwise.
>The 'Mandela Effect'
>Timeline stuff is deliberate muddying of the water
>Its actually the equivalent of the ministry of truth performing real time changes to history as experiments
>Previously they destroyed entire nations to erase things
>The internet changed that
The cornucopia is an ancient symbol, it can be found on flags, banners, coats of arms, paintings etc. What does this album cover being inspired by it have to do with the Fruit of the Loom logo?
>FLUTE of the loom
>FRUIT of the loom
???
What?
It's a 1:1 copy of the logo, its a parody theme.
How don't you get the point?
>The artist when questioned explicitly stated the cornucopia was the inspiration for the flute and it wouldn't have made sense otherwise.
What does that have to do with logo of Fruit of the Loom?
>The artist when questioned explicitly stated the cornucopia ON THE LOGO OF THE BRAND was the inspiration for the flute FOR THE PARODY IMAGE and it wouldn't have made sense otherwise.
Either glowy misdirection, genuine moron or trolling.
Are you moronic?
You seem to claiming, or are wording your statements so poorly that you're creating the impression that you're claiming, that the cornucopia symbol is exclusively related to the Fruit of the Loom company instead of being a recurring mythological symbol you can find in many sources throughout history. I'm not the moron here, ignorant American moron.
I'm not american. I'm
My first experience with the brand was me telling my mother I had just learned what the cornucopia was in mythology.
The Flute of the Loom album is obviously a parody or Fruit of the Loom, not just associated by the broad concept of the mythological cornucopia. How can you not see that?
anon he's clearly trolling
Oh. I thought is was just another ESL Moment, brought to you by pre-natal alcohol abuse and malnutrition.
Feed of the Seed
Cornucopia belonged to bootleg clothes where the logo said "LOOM" instead of Fruit of the Loom.
and those bootleg clothes has still yet to appear despite millions of them were produced
nice try.
They appeared in the 70s. If you had these clothes they were usually hand me downs from the 80s.
you haven't answered my question
cause you know it's bullshit
where are the clothes? oh right, they don't exist. only the ones with the real logo.
Because why would anyone keep undershirts and underwear from the 80s/70s in 2022?
Except for shit that got stolen, I have damn near everything I've ever had. Most of it in hard-to-get-to boxes.
I probably still have clothes from when I was a toddler in the 70s. No idea where the boxes would be, but if I ever find them, I'll look through them.
I remember being a kid and buying a band shirt, and out of curiosity I looked at the brand, and that was when I first found out about the company's existence and saw the logo. I very clearly remember the moment I found out Fruit of the Loom for some reason, but in my memory I mostly just remember the colors of the fruits. Flash forward many years later, that memory becomes blurred and distant in my mind, and I find out about the Mandela effect with it and get very confused, cause I also remembered the basket. Then I actually looked at a recreation of the logo with the basket, and I realized that the basketless version was indeed the one I saw back then, my mind was just confused due to the probably thousands of examples I had seen of fruits in baskets throughout my life. Sometimes looking at these recreations makes you realize that you really are misremembering, and the "alternate version" of the thing you remember never existed.
You're a kid. You see this logo. The memory becomes hazy in your mind, all you remember are a bunch of fruits (most likely the grapes are the most vivid part of the memory). Then you see fruits in baskets over and over, everywhere. You probably also see the cornucopia symbol a few times, which a common image going back to ancient times. In time your brain merges these memories cause it's simpler to store and process their information that way. It's more efficient, but it does cause some mistakes and information loss, like compressing movies causes artifacts or similar colors to merge. That's all it is.
What the frick is that, and why would I have seen that logo as a kid? Seems totally fricking random for you to say that.
The logo does seem incomplete. Its like the brain automatically fills in the blank for you.
This one just seems like it would be the most obvious thing for her to have braces. Even kids are smart enough to know what the punchline should be in a scene like this, so again the brain fills in what should logically be there.
If she was always smiling, then why would Leonardo of Quirms Mona Ogg painting having a grin be a joke?
It was probably your VHS or your TV. I remember the first time I saw Aladdin and the King of Thieves, the sequel to the Disney film, was at a neighbor's house on the TV in their kids' playroom. The climax is in a giant golden room with the Hand of Midas, and I remember it was green on their TV, the whole room. Any time I saw that movie again on my own TV at home, it was of course, gold.
So their color settings were all fricked up, or it was an old TV on the fritz.
>Do you have any memories like this?
Pearl Harbour, when the airfield gets attacked Josh Harnett yells into the phone Ï think World War Two just started!", I remember everyone in the cinema laughing theyre asses off because of the moronation in that statement, and then in the dvd/bluray release the line was changed to Ï think World War Two just hit us!"
This is the biggest one for me. The joke doesnt even make sense if she doesnt have braces.
There isn't any "joke", other than that she's really short, and he's really tall.
It's that they both have metal teeth you numb nuts why would their height differential matter?
If you even take into consideration archetypal cliches, a teen looking girl with glasses and pig tails is almost always going to have braces. It's part of "the look" for nerdy white girls. This shit is almost hard evidence to me for timeline splits or world-spanning psyops
Fake and gay.
Also last time we had this thread I mentioned the finnish commercial referencing the movie where she indeed does have braces, and that is the very joke
Nobody knew about it in that thread, did you guys know?
Blanche Ravalec
which one of the fricking 29 versions did you watch anon?
When I was a kid I had a surreal and terrifying experience watching a VHS of the special edition of Star Wars: A New Hope with my mom. I believe this was the late 90's (1998?) but I can't give an exact date so I apologize, however I was approximately 11 or 12. Basically we were watching the part of the film where they're in the Death Star. At one point when confronted by stormtroopers, Luke's nose suddenly extended grotesquely into a strange flesh-colored elephant's trunk. It then flailed around making elephant trumpet sounds scaring the stormtroopers off. I vividly remember this, and I was absolutely terrified. My mom was really jarred and confused and trying to calm me down. Leia then says "that's enough Proboscis Luke" and his nose returned to normal. The film also continued on as normal. Every subsequent viewing of our VHS was completely normal, as with every previous viewing. We had already watched the film multiple times prior to the incident so that precludes it being some strange edited copy which would be weird in and of itself.
My mom still remembers the event and sometimes we talk about it. It honestly feels somewhat demonic. Like something was trying to frick with us through the VHS. The recent talk of the "Bigger Luke Hypothesis" kept reminding me of the incident so I thought I'd finally post it somewhere. Anyone else have any strange experiences watching films like this?
>It honestly feels somewhat demonic.
assuming you haven't made that up, did anything weird ever happen again, not only related to movies
It's a pasta
https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/kew73j/thats_enough_proboscis_luke/
it's a comedic copypasta from the Star Wars fanbase
Jurassic Park, this scene
I distinctly remember Nedry saying "don't get cheap on me Dodgson" and then the scene ending. I have watched the movie many times, and I really remember one of the main things I found funny about this scene being that Nedry says that, you see Dodgson annoyed and grabbing the check and that's it, standard comedy cliche where the scene ends with a funny line and an annoyed character being silent.
I rewatched it on YT recently, and after that line he says "that was Hammond's mistake" before the scene ends, which I do not remember at all. Other people in the comments also don't remember that line. There's probably a logical explanation, but still weird.
I remember
>don't get cheap on me Dodgson
JP was re-released in theaters in 3D a few years ago. Maybe it was added then? I honestly don't remember. But I have it on both Laserdisc and original DVD release somewhere.
It’s always been “that was Hammond's mistake” for me. I’ve seen this movie upwards of 200 times. Friends amd I used to quote this particular scene at school yelling out “we’ve got Dodgson here” across the playground whenever somebody wore a hat.
That being said, I watched Jurassic Park recently on tv and it had been edited down for time and very minor lines like this had been removed. It frustrated me greatly because I new the film so autistcly well.
>it's not bad memories either
it was always yellow. mandela effect is bullshit, op. memory is just faulty. i remember a lot of weird shit that i know didn't happen.
I Distinctly remember this saying ''I hate Black folk'' but cannot find a copy of it anywhere.
That's from the censored version for US tv. You remembered correctly
>censored version for US tv.
Huh, really. I am surprised that a censored version exists and yet it clearly said 'I hate Black folk' when I saw it on Australian TV.
> "You hate everybody?!"
> "Hey man, you can't be sayin' this shit around here"
The equivalent of "all lives matter" in the 90s.
The black gentlemen who accost him still say something like "Hey dis man hate Black folk" even in the censored version
>The black gentlemen who accost him still say something like "Hey dis man hate Black folk" even in the censored version
That makes sense though. If you make a general statement these days Black folk get offended that you even imply you include them
The actual, physical prop Willis wore said 'Everybody', it was digitally turned into 'Black folk' for the theatrical release. So for the TV version they actually just undo the post work.
It always bothered me that they changed it that way. I get removing the n-word but why not change it to "I hate black people" instead? That would keep the original meaning and fits with the scene
I picked up an old 16mm print at an auction in West Covina and it had the green crawl you remember. pic related
Could be something to do with different projection prints
How is the colour in the rest of the movie? That text looks like it wants to be yellow but the poor quality won't let it.
It's a bit blown out, but still decent.
The Mandela Effect is when everyone "remembers" a thing.
No one else remembers this, just you and your cheap ass TV growing up
I've had a curious defect either on the VHS, or on the player that made Luke's lightsaber yellow.
Scene from the Ant Bully where it is changed to Fruit of the Loin but has the same logo
Pic related is South Park where Cartman has Cornucopia Brand undies
Ah yes Cartman's shitty butthole is the proof of Mandela.
>Just ignores the obvious connection of FOTL with Cornucopia and focuses on the shitty arsehole.
Totally not gay of you
Your TV was fuxxored.
I remember this meme being from a real scene. Bart was doing something wrong in the playground and ends up falling on the ground and hurting himself. That's when Skinners walks up to him and says "Pathetic" and walks away. But the meme is actually taken from a completely irrelevant scene where he doesn't even say "Pathetic" and is looking at a trash bin, and the scene i remembered never actually happens
forgot pic
I was about to make a post about how reality is only about 45 minutes old and everything before that never really even happened. Of course I'm just trolling because how would I know that. But midway through typing...
...Cinemaphile stopped being a blue board all of a sudden. Wasn't it blue before?
What the frick is happening, bros?
it was blue this morning when i deleted cookies
It was blue 5 minutes ago and always had been before that. Did CERN just do something?
maybe just the troony jannies did
check any of ur tv memes with the board color if they are still blue
yea yotsuba is orange like /misc/ now
So is it orange for you now or is it just me? Is Cinemaphile a NSFW board now?
>Is Cinemaphile a NSFW board now?
Yeah. They finally got sick of banning my dynamic IP for calling the doctor from The Orville a stupid Black person and just capitulated into making the board red.
You're welcome everyone.
Oh cool, thanks buddy.
TV has always been red wtf are you talking about
It's orange now, not red. It was blue before.
Uhhh?
All of Cinemaphile is this color for me now. Was blue when I started that post, and has been blue for as long as Cinemaphile was spun off from Cinemaphile.
>I had a memowy that was WRONG!
>Am I losing grip on reality?
But the Mandela Effect affects almost exclusively Gen X and Milennial things. I haven't heard of any Zoomie era Mandela Effected stuff. Makes sense, if you buy into it being from CERN ending the world in 2012
zoomis have adhd and terrible memory, so they wouldn't notice, or care
so true. it's almost sickening to think of how little connection they have with anything. like blabla you can call me an old man for saying so but there's a fundamental difference in being that has come about where people have turned hugely shallow in a short space of time
For zoomers it would be some homosexual shit like a le forgotten Youtubepoop or creppypasta
OP- this video is "4 years old". But it was NOT on YouTube 15 minutes ago when I first checked. Used same search terms just now, and it somehow exists now.
What in the FUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK!?
Fascinating
I've had a couple in RLM videos, but them hack frauds probably edited the shit out.