Ya.
I made a feature and got it on some streaming platforms but made almost no money off it.
I've just finished filming a new one. If it flops then I'm probably gonna quit and try and make it as a youtuber or something
Tubi movie? Which one? What was your budget? I saw one that was made for $5k by some actress. It's not bad. I'm guessing if you keep your budget low you can at least make a living out if it.
It did get on Tubi yeah. And that was about my budget. I don't want to reveal myself because I don't trust the autistic frickers on here but I will say that it has a higher imdb score than Priscilla so I'm proud of it.
Also, it's also pretty obviously inspired by Refn
Is it only on Tubi or did you go the non-exclusive route and have it on other free streamers? That sounds cool. Were you at least able to get more than $5k from the views to at least break even? It's great that so many original stories are popping up on Tubi and the like. It's just a shame that without a big marketing budget most movies get lost in the shuffle.
No I went the non-exclusive route. I'm not even a burger.
And no, the film has not broken even by a long shot. But it's also a super niche arthouse film that would only ever appeal to a small audience and that's if I was already a well known figure in the indie film world.
But yeah, it's a good proof of concept. Honestly, the most shocking thing is that so few people are doing it. I thought I was taking too long to transition from shorts to features and then I finally get here and I'm basically by myself save the few people I know that did really heavy networking to make films that don't seem interesting to me.
I only know one other person who's done similar to me and even he hasn't had the motivation to actually "try" (for lack of a better word)
That's awesome, anon. Few people can say they released a feature that actually got distribution and on IMDB. I was involved in my city's art and music scene and know three people who made movies that went on Tubi and some other free places. They were around the $10k range but they said they made it back after a about 18 months. They did horror films, but that's more popular I guess. I was looking into making a low budget horror or action movie. If I can get the budget down to sub $10k I might go for it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
That's really inspiring actually.
Yeah horror is a really popular low budget genre for a reason. I'm actually working on writing a horror script at the moment. Years ago, I even had the chance to get a horror film funded I just didn't have a script which annoyed me but was probably for the best.
I don't know if I have the resolve/money to self-produce another one but we'll see. I'm thinking I might get a job for a few years, make some money and then come back to the scene. But that would require getting a job...
Do you have a script?
4 months ago
Anonymous
I have a few scripts I've done over the years. I keep it simple. Just 2 or 3 major speaking characters and the majority is interior scenes with one or two major scenes where people get stabbed or elaborately die. So the budget shouldn't be too high. I think a big mistake that writers make for low budget stuff is writing these elaborate stories with dozens of characters, majority exterior shots and absurdly complex scenes with too many parts that causes budgets to balloon. A screenwriter once told me, "Just because it cost nothing to write it down doesn't mean it's going to cost nothing to film it.". Or something of that nature.
I would only want to do it just so I can impress my waifu and cast her in one of my films. But that's not a good motivation for a medium that should be driven by a desire to tell a story.
No. In fact I actively try to know as little about film-making as possible because I don't want to end up cursed like those directors or actors who can't just enjoy a movie any more without thinking about what camera angles and lenses or effects are used to get the scene right. Sometimes it's better to not know how the sausage is made.
lmao, that's just your excuse to stay ignorant. Knowing how films are made makes them MORE impressive when you can tell a shot was difficult to pull off.
I don't want to think about how difficult a shot was, or how easy, nor judge how impressive the technical stuff is. I want to be immersed in the story being told. It's like reading The Count of Monte Cristo and wondering what type of pen and ink Dumas was using to write it, instead of letting the story wash over you. Or focusing on how a story is "more impressive" than another because you found out the writer used a typewriter, not a computer.
>Knowing how films are made makes them MORE impressive when you can tell a shot was difficult to pull off.
Ture, unless you eter an era where everything is bad and standards are dropped
No because making a movie is insanely difficult and arduous.
I do have a somewhat embarrssing fantasy. I wrote 2 novels and have made casts fkr each character in a hypothetical adaptation. In both novels, my celebrity crush plays the female lead.
Michael Bay, Christopher Nolan, David Eggers, David Fincher, and many other straight white men have studios begging them to make their movies, you're just a bad writer.
David Eggers? Think you mean Robert, but he still broke in 10+ years ago. Nolan 20+ years, Bay/Fincher 30+ years ago. And it's not just white males, literally no new writers are selling spec scripts anymore. The industry is completely broken and creatively bankrupt.
Take the BREENPILL and make movies people actually want to see and sell them online.
All of his features have been financially successful to the point that he quit his job as an architect to become a full-time filmmaker instead, as filmmaking turned out to be more profitable for him.
What are the budget for his films? I tried looking it up but can't find the info. I hate when they do that, most of the time it's because they're doing some scam.
https://tubitv.com/movies/677551/eradication
This movie had a budget of $5k and has already made a profit for its creators. If you want to make a movie and can't get $5k to start up you should probably look at another career.
Well at least they make more money than working as an architect does, so must be pretty good considering that he doesn't even put out new films every year.
Also, people pay to see his films in theaters as well:
Take the BREENPILL and make movies people actually want to see and sell them online.
All of his features have been financially successful to the point that he quit his job as an architect to become a full-time filmmaker instead, as filmmaking turned out to be more profitable for him.
The key is SINCERITY. Irony and cynicism are for homosexuals like Mike and Jay
I used to make shitty skits with my friends for YouTube and class assignments. I looked into it as a career path post-secondary, but the universities I wanted to attend asked for $16k/semester and that was without equipment.
Making a movie is extremely hard work, I made one short film that almost sent me into a mental breakdown. Dealing with actors, locations, props, camera equipment, lights, logistics etc. My producer was a stoner moron that did nothing though.
Conversely once you “make it” it becomes decidedly easier, I’ve worked on some massive feature films and it’s mind boggling how with all that money and support they can still make gigantic pieces of shit.
Produces facilitate and oversee the creation of the film from pre to post production. Securing funding, locations, hiring crew, ensure people are fed. Give notes on edit. Etc etc. Usually they're the only people the director answers to (which is why Best Picture award goes to the film producers).
I had dreams of acting in theatre but theatre is dead. You can't make a living out of it.
My dream was that I would passionately play characters with other like minded people and we would inspire the world then at night we would be like a family.
I would grow from a passionate young man into a wise sage then my performances would be skillfully measured. I would be a shoulder to cry on for the younger, more neurotic performers. The characters I would play would change to reflect my age.
The truth is that it's just a business that's been choked to death by greed and talentless hacks and gone mostly ignored in the modern world. No one cares about it as much. My dream is dead.
This. I'm not sure if I'm sad or relieved the passion is dead, though.
Hmm, that'd be a good max Payne line.
>I was reminded of being an aspiring film maker; a dream I could never live. You can't live a dream that died a few hundred gunshots ago. I'd mourn, but I was too damned relieved.
I'm too antisocial to direct a film so I edit.
My last feature edit got distributed and was released in the fall. Only for rent right now. Will end up Amazon Prime early next year.
We got some nice reviews but I don't know much about the financials. Doubt it's making much though.
I want to make films as it’s literally all I care about idk why, however my pessimistic and bleak outlook on life wouldn’t be something that would appeal to anyone and no point making the world a more terrible place. I may start with black comedies instead. In addition I hate people so could never work with actors that long before they drove me insane. Final possibility is to take the scenerypill and just film mountains with some pretentious movie score. Also what’s the Britbong version of tubu? Gonna get druk
Don't worry anon, there are plenty of filmmakers with pessimistic outlooks who actively try to make the world a worse place with their films. If anything that's a prerequisite to making it in this industry. See Lars Von Trier, Todd Solondz, Peter Greenaway, and more recently Yorgos Lanthamos and Ari Aster. However if you don't like that kinda stuff then I understand.
I do like that kind of stuff anon although I’d hate to be seen as an edgy provocateur like Noe. My pessimism is mostly rooted in the selfish and ruthless nature of humans. Those type of films never really make bank as well so they’d 100% likely lose money and I couldn’t make a living from it. I’m also extremely lazy as I don’t care about anything but films is all that I think about night and day. The fact YouTube/internet has so much content leads me to decision paralysis. Idk maybe I’ll sign up to some part time course and meet that winning connection. What’s in the pipeline for yourself?
Yes. Here's the little story of my failed entry into film industry for anyone bored enough to read.
My plan was to get a film degree at a university with connections to the film and media industry, but I didn't get good enough grades. I remember standing in my high school assembly hall staring at a piece of paper with a C, a D and two fails. I wasn't upset because I expected it and I figured I could just do another year of school to get some extra grades with easier subjects. I walked over to the head and asked if it was still okay for me to do another year but with different subjects. She responded by saying I had to redo the same subjects. That wasn't happening. My art teachers were a fricking nightmare. So I said "okay, no problem" and then left and never came back. I had no legal obligation to be there.
I immediately went home and looked for an apprenticeship. Luckily, I already set up an account on some apprenticeship website during a school lunch break. This was probably the most useful thing I did in my last year. I came across a youth film "academy", which was some kind of small company that operated as both a film school and an apprenticeship scheme. I was never given the opportunity to be a student so instead applied as an apprentice. I got a haircut, put on my only suit and waffled through an interview. I told the interviewer I wanted to pursue writing and he asked me if I had written any scripts. I said yes then just made up a vague film plot on the spot. I'm pretty sure what I said was uber cringe but it didn't matter because I was accepted.
I viewed this as my humble beginnings into the local film industry. That is until I received an email from one of the higher ups offering me an apprenticeship at another company that reached out for candidates. It was a web dev and gaming company and they were looking for testers. I was completely uninterested as I was still following my dreams of being the next Hitchwiener so I said no, but this guy insisted and responded with "you don't want to miss this opportunity". He was absolutely right because I went to the interview, got called back for a second interview and then got the job. And I've been working in quality assurance, web development and digital marketing for the past 10 years. This is my career.
At first I told myself I was going to still make indie films in my spare time but life became increasingly more complex. I started a few small projects and had some wild ideas with friends but nothing ever really came into existence. I've had the opportunity to fund some small indie projects to get my name as a producer in the credits, but I always decided not to. I'm not talking about pennies but I'm also not talking about serious money - somewhere close to 1000 USD. The payout was always too risky and I'd get next to no creative input despite how much money I'd throw at the project. It simply was not worth it. Now I have a house to pay off so it's probably never going to happen, but there's still a part of me that still wants a small credit in a movie.
>but there's still a part of me that still wants a small credit in a movie.
Don't give up hope, anon. There's this one guy who just goes around putting up money on indiegogo and Kickstarter projects that sell a producer credit as a perk. I think he puts up like $200 a pop and has an IMDB with 30+ producer credits. You can be a patron of the arts like that guy.
I viewed this as my humble beginnings into the local film industry. That is until I received an email from one of the higher ups offering me an apprenticeship at another company that reached out for candidates. It was a web dev and gaming company and they were looking for testers. I was completely uninterested as I was still following my dreams of being the next Hitchwiener so I said no, but this guy insisted and responded with "you don't want to miss this opportunity". He was absolutely right because I went to the interview, got called back for a second interview and then got the job. And I've been working in quality assurance, web development and digital marketing for the past 10 years. This is my career.
At first I told myself I was going to still make indie films in my spare time but life became increasingly more complex. I started a few small projects and had some wild ideas with friends but nothing ever really came into existence. I've had the opportunity to fund some small indie projects to get my name as a producer in the credits, but I always decided not to. I'm not talking about pennies but I'm also not talking about serious money - somewhere close to 1000 USD. The payout was always too risky and I'd get next to no creative input despite how much money I'd throw at the project. It simply was not worth it. Now I have a house to pay off so it's probably never going to happen, but there's still a part of me that still wants a small credit in a movie.
Yeah
I'm not of the tribe, and I wasn't born into enough money to play around with cameras as a kid, so I had to get good at a sport instead to avoid the grind
I'd guess majority of the userbase here haven't tried to get into filmmaking because they are lonely / autistic/otherwise weird. Filmmaking is a very collaborative effort and if you can't get along with people or just flat out dislike people, you most likely won't get far in most jobs. Though some jobs are quite isolated like the screenwriter or the editor.
I guess most of the people here are also American. I know most film schools outside like NYU, AFI etc. are basically scams in USA. The student loans etc. are so high that it is probably too risky for most people to try to get into filmmaking. Especially poor or middle class people, since the government won't help them with money issues. Vast majority of filmmaking jobs are freelancer based, so that adds to the stress. You not only need to be good but you also need to have connections. And even then, sometimes it can be months without a job. Lots of people can't deal with that mentally and/or money wise. USA has lots of movie productions, but the competition is also extremely high and based on what I've read and heard, the competition gets pretty bad, lots of backstabbing etc.
The democratization of moviemaking through technology is a double edged sword. Yes, it is now cheaper than ever to shoot and film a movie, but there's also so much short films, documentaries, feature films, tv shows etc. etc. out there that it is very hard to stand out. All the major Hollywood or streamer releases stand out because they are marketed with so much money. Every year there are bunch of great movies made all over the world and most people will never, ever see them.
You also have to be kind of dumb and stubborn to want to work in the film industry. The days are usually long and exhausting, often in bad weather conditions. Again I am not from America, but I know that especially there producers etc. will try to buttfrick the crew at every opportunity. Overwork without pay, not paying salaries in time or at all etc. At least in Europe this is better, but nonetheless the days are still long and arduous. Making movies or commercials or documentaries etc. isn't as important as brain surgery or working in the coal mines. But it is hard to do well and it takes lots of effort. Lots of shoots happen everywhere around the country you live in, so you will be also travelling a lot. If you have a family, girlfriend etc. it can be pretty draining. It is quite hard to work in the film industry and have a healthy balance between work and your private life.
I thought I wanted to be a director, tried doing that for bunch of years. I always also shot quite a bit and maybe about 4-5 years ago I ultimately realized that I enjoy being a DP much more than being a director. So I pivoted to DP'ing. I think this is a pretty common thing also, especially lots of people have it happen in film school. When it starts, everyone wants to direct, but quite many realize that they don't want to direct after all.
I am now at the point where some of the stuff I have been involved with is getting into festivals. Lots of my paid work is still DIT, camera assisting or lighting. But starting to finally land more and more jobs as a DP. It has taken me quite many years and I have definitely made sacrifices. It is quite scary and stressful to watch people around you starting families, buying houses etc. while you are still grinding on short movies or music videos that might get you a step further in your career, or they could be just a gigantic waste of time and effort.
What is your budget for the lens? Do you think you'll be shooting also on your own, or will you have a cinematographer and a 1st camera assistant (focus puller)?
What would be the best balance of price/quality? I guess I could spend my life savings of $5k, but I'd rather start cheaper, like under $1k, unless those are substantially worse. No assistants. Been looking at SEL85F18 85mm f/1.8, is that any good?
Holy frick you're moronic. You haven't filmed anything and you'd 'like to make indie/drama type movies'... What, are the studios kicking down your door asking you to work for them and you're like 'no - I only make INDIE dramas'?
Are you going to write your own script? How are you going to find your actors? Do you have the audio equipment? Computer and software to do the editing?
Um, he asked for a focus, to help with lense choice. I'm open to any genre, from Terrance Mallick to Tarantino to music videos. What am I supposed to want to do?
Yes I'd like to write my own script. I'd probably find acting students to do roles, they'd probably be happy just having something for their portfolio. Or $50 bucks. I have an M57 for audio, is that good enough? My Macbook Pro is fine for editing.
>from Terrance Mallick to Tarantino
Just had an intro to film studies class this year huh?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Nope. Should I only like French new wave or something? What is the correct response? I also like Wim Wenders, Bergman, Murray, but those styles are too obtuse for a first time film maker.
No script yet, I'm only starting. Should I only buy a lense once I've completed a script? I thought it'd be a good idea to start learning cinematography, lighting etc, not just writing. I mean, music videos don't even have scripts... and many directors/cinematographors/editors don't write their movies.
4 months ago
Anonymous
So you don't want to be a filmmaker but a cameraman.
Okay. Most bigger budget videos ( music videos, movies, bigger documentaries, tv shows) are manual focus only. Meaning that there is a first assistant cameraman/focus puller, who is manually focusing the lens during the shot. Back in the day they were next to the camera, nowadays they are usually doing it wirelessly with a hand unit. They spin the wheel on the hand unit, watching a focus monitor, and the motor next to the lens moves the motor, thus manually focusing. So I think with your budget and where you are starting from, you are not doing this kind of work yet.
Autofocus for the longest time was basically never used in video. But in the last about 8-10 years, autofocus has improved a lot in video, not just stills. Now there are bunch of shooters who use autofocus on their video shooting. For example "one man" band type of filmmakers like wedding filmmakers, people doing smaller scale social media stuff etc. Your camera is Sony's A7R IV. Sony has the best autofocus on the market, so you are lucky with that.
>Been looking at SEL85F18 85mm f/1.8, is that any good?
That is a good lens, I actually have it. But I think at this point it is not the right one for you. First of all, it is more of a still lens. The autofocus isn't very fast for video, it's kind of noisy and it has noticeable focus breathing.
Secondly and maybe even more importantly, if you are planning to buy just one lens right now, the 85mm focal length is probably not the best choice. It is a short tele lens, meaning that the field of view of the lens is somewhat "zoomed in". It is not a wide or a normal field of view lens and this can give you lots of problems in certain scenarios. For example if you want to shoot indoors in a smaller room/other space, you might not necessarily be able to get the shots you want, because the lens is more tighter than you'd like.
Okay. Most bigger budget videos ( music videos, movies, bigger documentaries, tv shows) are manual focus only. Meaning that there is a first assistant cameraman/focus puller, who is manually focusing the lens during the shot. Back in the day they were next to the camera, nowadays they are usually doing it wirelessly with a hand unit. They spin the wheel on the hand unit, watching a focus monitor, and the motor next to the lens moves the motor, thus manually focusing. So I think with your budget and where you are starting from, you are not doing this kind of work yet.
Autofocus for the longest time was basically never used in video. But in the last about 8-10 years, autofocus has improved a lot in video, not just stills. Now there are bunch of shooters who use autofocus on their video shooting. For example "one man" band type of filmmakers like wedding filmmakers, people doing smaller scale social media stuff etc. Your camera is Sony's A7R IV. Sony has the best autofocus on the market, so you are lucky with that.
>Been looking at SEL85F18 85mm f/1.8, is that any good?
That is a good lens, I actually have it. But I think at this point it is not the right one for you. First of all, it is more of a still lens. The autofocus isn't very fast for video, it's kind of noisy and it has noticeable focus breathing.
Secondly and maybe even more importantly, if you are planning to buy just one lens right now, the 85mm focal length is probably not the best choice. It is a short tele lens, meaning that the field of view of the lens is somewhat "zoomed in". It is not a wide or a normal field of view lens and this can give you lots of problems in certain scenarios. For example if you want to shoot indoors in a smaller room/other space, you might not necessarily be able to get the shots you want, because the lens is more tighter than you'd like.
So if you are planning to get just one lens right now, I'd go for some sort of a zoom lens, that has more focal lengths than a prime/fixed lens (which the F 1.8 85mm is). Honestly it might best for you to watch some videos about what different focal lengths are etc. If you are not already aware.
I'd recommend watching some Youtube videos about recommended lenses for Sony mirrorless lenses for video work.
I can recommend couple but I'd recommend you do your own research as well
Sony FE 24-105mm f/4 G OSS
>good focal range, from wide to tele, versatile >optically good >not cheap but not also super expensive either >still quite fast aperture at F4 >though not greatest F stop for low light, you probably should not worry about that at this point though >lens has internal stabilization, helps with removing micro jitters etc. when you are shooting handheld (camera's sensor is also stabilized) >focus breathing compensation software support
Some other Sony options, also more expensive:
Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G
Sony FE 24 - 70mm F2,8 GM
I recommended couple ones from Sony since they benefit most from the Sony camera body. However I recommend you research also Tamron, Sigma, Samyang, Nisi, Irix etc. which are all lens manufactures that make lenses for Sony as well. Usually with third party lenses you pay less, negative drawbacks being stuff like autofocus MAYBE being a little slower etc.
Also third option is to start researching fully manual lenses. Either vintage lenses ( in which case you will need an adapter for your body) or modern manual lenses (there are plenty of these made for Sony E-mount). If you go with full manual lenses, you'll be doing all the focusing with your own hand, twisting the lens. This might be a good thing for a beginner, or too much.
Holy frick you're moronic. You haven't filmed anything and you'd 'like to make indie/drama type movies'... What, are the studios kicking down your door asking you to work for them and you're like 'no - I only make INDIE dramas'?
Are you going to write your own script? How are you going to find your actors? Do you have the audio equipment? Computer and software to do the editing?
There was a thread awhile back where they were posting the movies with lowest budgets to make it on Tubi. I believe this was the one with the lowest budget found - it was made for just a bit over $2,000. Is there any movies with a lower budget?
So no one on this board has any excuse not to put a movie on Tubi in 2024. Make sure to post your movie on Cinemaphile when it is completed. I believe in you, anons. We're all gonna make it.
The ad supported streamers pretty much accept anything. Tubi has a library of over 40,000 movies or something absurd like that. They split the revenue with you based on views right from the start and don't charge anything up front. For an ultra low budget movie, just to be seen and make a few bucks is great. Taking a movie to a film festival and getting a big distribution deal is a pipe dream, so stuff like this is a more realistic option for the vast majority of movies.
yeah I dream of making a shitty horror movie that profits 100m like all the other dogshit that gets pumped out. But I cannot stand people and cant make a movie without them
Nah, I really wanted to be a film preservationist/ archivist when I was younger. I am so glad I never did that because I can’t stand films anymore and it would’ve been a complete waste of money.
All the time but my dreams are too big and my mind is always on blockbusters which are very restricted by suits and executives to even let me breath and do my thing so yeah
I did when I was younger. I started making short little films when I was in elementary school, filming little war movies with green army men, dirt, firecrackers, cardboard buildings, etc. It was all in camera stuff though. It wasn't until 9th grade I got serious with a digital camcorder, video editing software, etc. In 11th grade I shot, edited, and partially directed a short film for my theater arts class. I got an award for best editing at a regional student film thing.I had a nice little youtube channel going, but I got my account banned for copyrighted music. I was so desponded that I lacked motivation to make a new account.
But it's an expensive hobby. I made some money with my camera filming and taking photos at weddings and birthdays. But as iphones and smartphones came along my services were no-longer needed. My old camcorder sucks, and I'm too poor to just spend a few thousands of dollars on new equipment.
The hardest part is finding people who even want to film with you. Everyone is too busy, even when doing nothing.
I'm thinking about making a horror film in the style of a educational film explaining what happened. But i've been telling myself that for years.
>Mom is a filmmaker >Wants me to be one too >Literally have no creative ideas for scripts and have worked on a set enough to know being a director looks extremely boring and leaves you absolutely no free time for the duration of the shoot.
I think I could be happy being a producer though.
No, I wanted to do special effects and makeup. I knew I was never cool enough to direct. Having my name as fine print in the credits that nobody bothers to read is also nice.
sometimes I daydream about the movies I would make
but I get so meticulous and autismo over the types of shots and reasons why certain shots need to be done a certain way that I never make it past the first act
Yes, but i'm a weird guy who only make weird stuff.
A couple years ago, I made this short film for a online film festival and won the award of "Best Documentary", with it.
Is weird, /gif/coded and very NSFW, but some of You can like it:
https://archive.org/details/mondo-come-and-see
I've written over a dozen short film scripts and I have a few ideas for features. There's one of my scripts that I know will cost almost nothing to shoot, no dialogue, a friend of mine has already agreed to act in it, I've just been a complete flake for over a year and haven't pulled the trigger. This project has loomed over me for so long that I know I need to do it before I can make anything else; as soon as I get a couple of professional things out of the way I'm promising myself right now that I'm going to hurl myself at it.
I did but realized it takes hard work and you have to be in charge of a lot of people. I would like to be a food caterer on movie sets though, that would be cool
It depends on what you're filming, anon. A movie about two people in a room talking won't require that big of a cast and crew. Work to your strengths. If you don't like people, just minimize the amount of people you work with it. Every movie doesn't need large crowd shots and dozens of speaking roles. If you have a story to tell, just do it.
Tubi is the cinematic equivalent of shitposting. And we have entered the golden age of shitposting. Just make your puppet movie and make sure it matches their resolution standards and put it up on there. You won't be able to use existing characters or stories, but just make your own shit up. If you start a Kickstarter for your creepy puppet movie I'll give you $5. But I want an assistant producer credit.
I don't want it to be creepy necessarily, I just like the idea of mixing mediums that shouldn't go well together. I've been casually writing a noir crime drama screenplay where all the 'actors' are sockpuppets. Plays out like a classic Chandler novel. Because I obviously can't manage live actors, I'm writing it so all the dialogue is the protagonist's inner monologue as he describes the events of the story via retrospective narration.
That actually sounds pretty interesting. Just keep it under a an hour and 20 minutes. Anything more than that and the sock puppets might become tedious. You can also look at hiring voice actors for the puppets. It should be easier than working with actors on set if you have social anxiety.
Yeah I took a filmmaking class at a community collwge and thw first day we all sat in a circle and said why we were taking into filmmaking. I said I wanted to be a porn director
Yeah but I realized it was a waste of time since even if you "make it" you'll only be filming shitty propaganda for masons and israelites, all while stuck in satanic, child molesting Hollyjew.
Hey man don't knock israeli masonic satanist child molestation unless you've tried it. No wonder you couldn't cut it. >captcha: Vag n' XY >goddamn troony mods
the only think I've ever wanted to make was a tv show called 'The TV Show' which is completely random.
So the idea, for example, the show will be crime drama but at some point, it will start to change and turn into a talk show. Then it might shift into a sitcom for a few episodes before culminating in a musical episode that goes into a few animated episodes and then become a serious news program with actual investigative journalism. The idea is to have clever, gradual transitions. You never know what you're going to get, the only thing that remains consistent is the cast and maybe themes across seasons.
all the sections have to be done in a genuine, authentic way where everyone is doing their best. So the drama has to be compelling with good acting. The reality TV sections have to be candid and not planned.
I just like the idea of show briefly doing something very, very well, transitioning and never returning to the previous specific style again. And you now that if you don't like a particular section, eventually it will change radically into something else.
But that sort of deconstructionist take on television is rooted in postmodern philosophy. You're trying to satirise (don't misunderstand this to mean "make a joke out of") television and pop culture. That is postmodernism; critiquing society. It doesn't matter how good the writing is or isn't, it's a philosophical root rather than a measure of quality.
I did and do and have made a documentary feature that showed at a bunch of festivals, now I'm in the middle of working on my second one. I plan to make a narrative feature as well but not sure how to go about it.
I will say that the industry is pretty cancerous, I hate how funding works, and a lot of the people working in it are leftist dickheads. It's also very difficult if you're an antisocial moron like myself, connections and networking are extremely important.
Yes but frick it and fricked it. Studied film many years, tried for even more years, end up being a mech engineer. If you are not a social powerhouse, networking, nepotism machine with some kind of charisma forget it.
Become a social/party powerhouse first and then learn to be good at films.
Get accent reduction classes, some acting to get your posture and presentation right and you'll be fine.
No. I always thought filmmaking would be too difficult. I did like the idea of smaller productions, but big blockbuster films seems like a huge headache with too many people to try to please.
I dream of making traditionally animated Discword kino especially the Tiffany Aching Quadrology >The Wee Free Men >A Hat Full Of Sky >Wintersmith >I Shall Wear Midnight
I'm too talentless, lonely, anti-system and shy to direct a movie anyway, plus my stories are way too out there to be shot with a low budget, but I don't know what other medium would help me to transpose these aduio/video ideas. >Animation?
Why not, but know how to draw/use the appropriate software/have no friends to help me for the voice acting >Comics?
Still can't draw for shit, plus you lack the audio aspect of it all. The drawings are also still. >Novels?
Novels are purely descriptive and they have their own storytelling methods attached to it, it's genuinely hard to describe a sound or anything remotely visual well, especially with the stories i'm drafting
I did when I was younger, and I think deep down I still want to make at least one feature-length film before I die. The sad thing is, compared to when I was young, the cinema-going experience is becoming less important for the general public. Kids don't really seem to care about going to the movies, they are just happy to watch YouTube videos of people overreacting to other peoples content on their iPad. I would go to the cinema almost once a week as a teenager, and back then DVDs were huge and I would religiously scour the aisles at my local stores to find hidden gems I had never heard of like Tetsuo: The Iron Man, etc. It used to very difficult to make a "cinematic" video on a technical-level just 15 years ago, and now it is surprisingly easy with relatively expensive equipment. It has never been easier to make a movie and get it seen, but in a way that has diminished the magic of movie-making and devalued cinema.
Ya.
I made a feature and got it on some streaming platforms but made almost no money off it.
I've just finished filming a new one. If it flops then I'm probably gonna quit and try and make it as a youtuber or something
Tubi movie? Which one? What was your budget? I saw one that was made for $5k by some actress. It's not bad. I'm guessing if you keep your budget low you can at least make a living out if it.
It did get on Tubi yeah. And that was about my budget. I don't want to reveal myself because I don't trust the autistic frickers on here but I will say that it has a higher imdb score than Priscilla so I'm proud of it.
Also, it's also pretty obviously inspired by Refn
>Also, it's also pretty obviously inspired by Refn
Yikes!
Is it only on Tubi or did you go the non-exclusive route and have it on other free streamers? That sounds cool. Were you at least able to get more than $5k from the views to at least break even? It's great that so many original stories are popping up on Tubi and the like. It's just a shame that without a big marketing budget most movies get lost in the shuffle.
No I went the non-exclusive route. I'm not even a burger.
And no, the film has not broken even by a long shot. But it's also a super niche arthouse film that would only ever appeal to a small audience and that's if I was already a well known figure in the indie film world.
But yeah, it's a good proof of concept. Honestly, the most shocking thing is that so few people are doing it. I thought I was taking too long to transition from shorts to features and then I finally get here and I'm basically by myself save the few people I know that did really heavy networking to make films that don't seem interesting to me.
I only know one other person who's done similar to me and even he hasn't had the motivation to actually "try" (for lack of a better word)
That's awesome, anon. Few people can say they released a feature that actually got distribution and on IMDB. I was involved in my city's art and music scene and know three people who made movies that went on Tubi and some other free places. They were around the $10k range but they said they made it back after a about 18 months. They did horror films, but that's more popular I guess. I was looking into making a low budget horror or action movie. If I can get the budget down to sub $10k I might go for it.
That's really inspiring actually.
Yeah horror is a really popular low budget genre for a reason. I'm actually working on writing a horror script at the moment. Years ago, I even had the chance to get a horror film funded I just didn't have a script which annoyed me but was probably for the best.
I don't know if I have the resolve/money to self-produce another one but we'll see. I'm thinking I might get a job for a few years, make some money and then come back to the scene. But that would require getting a job...
Do you have a script?
I have a few scripts I've done over the years. I keep it simple. Just 2 or 3 major speaking characters and the majority is interior scenes with one or two major scenes where people get stabbed or elaborately die. So the budget shouldn't be too high. I think a big mistake that writers make for low budget stuff is writing these elaborate stories with dozens of characters, majority exterior shots and absurdly complex scenes with too many parts that causes budgets to balloon. A screenwriter once told me, "Just because it cost nothing to write it down doesn't mean it's going to cost nothing to film it.". Or something of that nature.
Lying homosexual.
I would only want to do it just so I can impress my waifu and cast her in one of my films. But that's not a good motivation for a medium that should be driven by a desire to tell a story.
I always wanted to film a series of videos about large breasts
don't let your dreams become memes
And i would watch it
When I was a teen I would often imagine how I could direct some kino pornography, i wasnt even that much of a coomer I just hate how boring porn is
I am so jealous of buttman and mike adriano tbqh
ok homosexual
that idea will never succeed because porn shows more then just large breasts
No
I am a filmmaker anon
>I am a filmmaker anon
unless you make legit kino, you aren't a filmmaker.
I directed a movie last year that made over $401 million dollars.
but is it kino...
Yes.
what is it
Frick you Ruben. The Uncharted movie sucked ass.
we got sonic the hedgehog 2 director Jeff Fowler here boyz
No I am not Jeff Fowler.
we got Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore director David Yates here boyz
ps: kind of you to let me know i would've wondered all day
That sounds a lot less impressive once you convert it from pesos.
Just do it. Tell stories. Short, medium, long. Tommy Wiseau made it.
No. In fact I actively try to know as little about film-making as possible because I don't want to end up cursed like those directors or actors who can't just enjoy a movie any more without thinking about what camera angles and lenses or effects are used to get the scene right. Sometimes it's better to not know how the sausage is made.
lmao, that's just your excuse to stay ignorant. Knowing how films are made makes them MORE impressive when you can tell a shot was difficult to pull off.
I don't want to think about how difficult a shot was, or how easy, nor judge how impressive the technical stuff is. I want to be immersed in the story being told. It's like reading The Count of Monte Cristo and wondering what type of pen and ink Dumas was using to write it, instead of letting the story wash over you. Or focusing on how a story is "more impressive" than another because you found out the writer used a typewriter, not a computer.
>Knowing how films are made makes them MORE impressive when you can tell a shot was difficult to pull off.
Ture, unless you eter an era where everything is bad and standards are dropped
>he can't turn off his rational brain and submit to the beauty
lmao
this, i want engaging stories in an audio/visual format idgaf about the rest
Making a movie would be easy as frick, I just need to find a good script...
I wanna make a 2 hour zombie movie of a hot chick getting slowly eaten by a horde of zombies
Making a movie would be easy as frick, I just need to find $$$...
No because making a movie is insanely difficult and arduous.
I do have a somewhat embarrssing fantasy. I wrote 2 novels and have made casts fkr each character in a hypothetical adaptation. In both novels, my celebrity crush plays the female lead.
Have you published them?
No. I write for my own enjoyment, mostly. My grandmother read both and thought they were awesome, for what that's worth.
Yes. Then I realised most people working in cinema are fricking stupid and moronic, and that i would be miserable making films
I still made a 90 minutes film alone in stop motion with my toys
>I still made a 90 minutes film alone in stop motion with my toys
This sounds awful, I need to watch it
How old are you?
Also, where can I watch your shitty film? I can get it on Letterboxd for you.
I have multiple great scripts but I’m a straight white male and don’t write BIPOC oppression stories so nobody tends to get back to me.
Michael Bay, Christopher Nolan, David Eggers, David Fincher, and many other straight white men have studios begging them to make their movies, you're just a bad writer.
Nta but you're forgetting they got in before the bipod woke diversity inclusion shit. Even if you have talent, it's harder for a white man to get in.
David Eggers? Think you mean Robert, but he still broke in 10+ years ago. Nolan 20+ years, Bay/Fincher 30+ years ago. And it's not just white males, literally no new writers are selling spec scripts anymore. The industry is completely broken and creatively bankrupt.
>Michael Bay
>White
Goyim, I....
He is White but adopted into a israeli family.
They were already established.
Bay and Fincher don't even write
Bay, Nolan and Finch are shit writers. They get jobs because they can direct. Eggers is the only good writer.
How do you make money off DIY kinos?
youtube ad revenue
Take the BREENPILL and make movies people actually want to see and sell them online.
All of his features have been financially successful to the point that he quit his job as an architect to become a full-time filmmaker instead, as filmmaking turned out to be more profitable for him.
What are the budget for his films? I tried looking it up but can't find the info. I hate when they do that, most of the time it's because they're doing some scam.
https://tubitv.com/movies/677551/eradication
This movie had a budget of $5k and has already made a profit for its creators. If you want to make a movie and can't get $5k to start up you should probably look at another career.
Well at least they make more money than working as an architect does, so must be pretty good considering that he doesn't even put out new films every year.
Also, people pay to see his films in theaters as well:
The key is SINCERITY. Irony and cynicism are for homosexuals like Mike and Jay
I used to watch bad movies and imagine ways I could make them better.
Yes. I wrote two scripts, each for a mockumentary, even bought some camera and audio equipment. Then I just didn't do it.
I used to make shitty skits with my friends for YouTube and class assignments. I looked into it as a career path post-secondary, but the universities I wanted to attend asked for $16k/semester and that was without equipment.
I wish i was a porn director
damn great minds
>dude that's a perfect angle to watch some other dude get his wiener sucked
You wanna be a professional cuck?
yes actually
meds
already smoking my meds but thank you for your concern.
well does porn count? Kinda always wanted to be a camera operator.
Yes but only making artistic porn starring myself as the only man. Modern porn sucks so much.
Being a filmmaker is great. But there are so many things that are out of your control. The stars have to align to make a good movie , it seems like.
Yeah, went to film school and everything.
Making a movie is extremely hard work, I made one short film that almost sent me into a mental breakdown. Dealing with actors, locations, props, camera equipment, lights, logistics etc. My producer was a stoner moron that did nothing though.
Conversely once you “make it” it becomes decidedly easier, I’ve worked on some massive feature films and it’s mind boggling how with all that money and support they can still make gigantic pieces of shit.
>My producer was a stoner moron that did nothing though.
Can you explain what producers even do
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_producer
If I wanted the wiki explanation I would've googled it but clearly you can't tell me
Too dumb to understand a few sentences or what
Seems like you are
No wonder you're a failure
I've never even thought about making a film
Produces facilitate and oversee the creation of the film from pre to post production. Securing funding, locations, hiring crew, ensure people are fed. Give notes on edit. Etc etc. Usually they're the only people the director answers to (which is why Best Picture award goes to the film producers).
I had dreams of acting in theatre but theatre is dead. You can't make a living out of it.
My dream was that I would passionately play characters with other like minded people and we would inspire the world then at night we would be like a family.
I would grow from a passionate young man into a wise sage then my performances would be skillfully measured. I would be a shoulder to cry on for the younger, more neurotic performers. The characters I would play would change to reflect my age.
The truth is that it's just a business that's been choked to death by greed and talentless hacks and gone mostly ignored in the modern world. No one cares about it as much. My dream is dead.
Yeah I guess you'd need to turn your fellow cast into your family when you are a flaming homosexual who won't have kids of his own.
I almost did a movie with stellan skarsgard but my mom said no
not anymore thank god
This. I'm not sure if I'm sad or relieved the passion is dead, though.
Hmm, that'd be a good max Payne line.
>I was reminded of being an aspiring film maker; a dream I could never live. You can't live a dream that died a few hundred gunshots ago. I'd mourn, but I was too damned relieved.
BRB, gotta script to write.
I'm too antisocial to direct a film so I edit.
My last feature edit got distributed and was released in the fall. Only for rent right now. Will end up Amazon Prime early next year.
We got some nice reviews but I don't know much about the financials. Doubt it's making much though.
I want to make films as it’s literally all I care about idk why, however my pessimistic and bleak outlook on life wouldn’t be something that would appeal to anyone and no point making the world a more terrible place. I may start with black comedies instead. In addition I hate people so could never work with actors that long before they drove me insane. Final possibility is to take the scenerypill and just film mountains with some pretentious movie score. Also what’s the Britbong version of tubu? Gonna get druk
>what’s the Britbong version of tubi
Plex
Pluto TV
Freevee
Tubi with a VPN
Internet Archive
BBC iPlayer
ITV X
4OD
YouTube
Don't worry anon, there are plenty of filmmakers with pessimistic outlooks who actively try to make the world a worse place with their films. If anything that's a prerequisite to making it in this industry. See Lars Von Trier, Todd Solondz, Peter Greenaway, and more recently Yorgos Lanthamos and Ari Aster. However if you don't like that kinda stuff then I understand.
I do like that kind of stuff anon although I’d hate to be seen as an edgy provocateur like Noe. My pessimism is mostly rooted in the selfish and ruthless nature of humans. Those type of films never really make bank as well so they’d 100% likely lose money and I couldn’t make a living from it. I’m also extremely lazy as I don’t care about anything but films is all that I think about night and day. The fact YouTube/internet has so much content leads me to decision paralysis. Idk maybe I’ll sign up to some part time course and meet that winning connection. What’s in the pipeline for yourself?
Are you me?
Yea
Yes. Here's the little story of my failed entry into film industry for anyone bored enough to read.
My plan was to get a film degree at a university with connections to the film and media industry, but I didn't get good enough grades. I remember standing in my high school assembly hall staring at a piece of paper with a C, a D and two fails. I wasn't upset because I expected it and I figured I could just do another year of school to get some extra grades with easier subjects. I walked over to the head and asked if it was still okay for me to do another year but with different subjects. She responded by saying I had to redo the same subjects. That wasn't happening. My art teachers were a fricking nightmare. So I said "okay, no problem" and then left and never came back. I had no legal obligation to be there.
I immediately went home and looked for an apprenticeship. Luckily, I already set up an account on some apprenticeship website during a school lunch break. This was probably the most useful thing I did in my last year. I came across a youth film "academy", which was some kind of small company that operated as both a film school and an apprenticeship scheme. I was never given the opportunity to be a student so instead applied as an apprentice. I got a haircut, put on my only suit and waffled through an interview. I told the interviewer I wanted to pursue writing and he asked me if I had written any scripts. I said yes then just made up a vague film plot on the spot. I'm pretty sure what I said was uber cringe but it didn't matter because I was accepted.
I viewed this as my humble beginnings into the local film industry. That is until I received an email from one of the higher ups offering me an apprenticeship at another company that reached out for candidates. It was a web dev and gaming company and they were looking for testers. I was completely uninterested as I was still following my dreams of being the next Hitchwiener so I said no, but this guy insisted and responded with "you don't want to miss this opportunity". He was absolutely right because I went to the interview, got called back for a second interview and then got the job. And I've been working in quality assurance, web development and digital marketing for the past 10 years. This is my career.
At first I told myself I was going to still make indie films in my spare time but life became increasingly more complex. I started a few small projects and had some wild ideas with friends but nothing ever really came into existence. I've had the opportunity to fund some small indie projects to get my name as a producer in the credits, but I always decided not to. I'm not talking about pennies but I'm also not talking about serious money - somewhere close to 1000 USD. The payout was always too risky and I'd get next to no creative input despite how much money I'd throw at the project. It simply was not worth it. Now I have a house to pay off so it's probably never going to happen, but there's still a part of me that still wants a small credit in a movie.
executive producer*
>but there's still a part of me that still wants a small credit in a movie.
Don't give up hope, anon. There's this one guy who just goes around putting up money on indiegogo and Kickstarter projects that sell a producer credit as a perk. I think he puts up like $200 a pop and has an IMDB with 30+ producer credits. You can be a patron of the arts like that guy.
>$200
If I can find one as cheap as that, I will do it. Maybe I'll be as famous as that guy.
Dreams die with not a bang but a whimper.
Yeah
I'm not of the tribe, and I wasn't born into enough money to play around with cameras as a kid, so I had to get good at a sport instead to avoid the grind
I made them my reality.
I'd guess majority of the userbase here haven't tried to get into filmmaking because they are lonely / autistic/otherwise weird. Filmmaking is a very collaborative effort and if you can't get along with people or just flat out dislike people, you most likely won't get far in most jobs. Though some jobs are quite isolated like the screenwriter or the editor.
I guess most of the people here are also American. I know most film schools outside like NYU, AFI etc. are basically scams in USA. The student loans etc. are so high that it is probably too risky for most people to try to get into filmmaking. Especially poor or middle class people, since the government won't help them with money issues. Vast majority of filmmaking jobs are freelancer based, so that adds to the stress. You not only need to be good but you also need to have connections. And even then, sometimes it can be months without a job. Lots of people can't deal with that mentally and/or money wise. USA has lots of movie productions, but the competition is also extremely high and based on what I've read and heard, the competition gets pretty bad, lots of backstabbing etc.
The democratization of moviemaking through technology is a double edged sword. Yes, it is now cheaper than ever to shoot and film a movie, but there's also so much short films, documentaries, feature films, tv shows etc. etc. out there that it is very hard to stand out. All the major Hollywood or streamer releases stand out because they are marketed with so much money. Every year there are bunch of great movies made all over the world and most people will never, ever see them.
/Part 2 of my reddit spacing blogpost
You also have to be kind of dumb and stubborn to want to work in the film industry. The days are usually long and exhausting, often in bad weather conditions. Again I am not from America, but I know that especially there producers etc. will try to buttfrick the crew at every opportunity. Overwork without pay, not paying salaries in time or at all etc. At least in Europe this is better, but nonetheless the days are still long and arduous. Making movies or commercials or documentaries etc. isn't as important as brain surgery or working in the coal mines. But it is hard to do well and it takes lots of effort. Lots of shoots happen everywhere around the country you live in, so you will be also travelling a lot. If you have a family, girlfriend etc. it can be pretty draining. It is quite hard to work in the film industry and have a healthy balance between work and your private life.
I thought I wanted to be a director, tried doing that for bunch of years. I always also shot quite a bit and maybe about 4-5 years ago I ultimately realized that I enjoy being a DP much more than being a director. So I pivoted to DP'ing. I think this is a pretty common thing also, especially lots of people have it happen in film school. When it starts, everyone wants to direct, but quite many realize that they don't want to direct after all.
I am now at the point where some of the stuff I have been involved with is getting into festivals. Lots of my paid work is still DIT, camera assisting or lighting. But starting to finally land more and more jobs as a DP. It has taken me quite many years and I have definitely made sacrifices. It is quite scary and stressful to watch people around you starting families, buying houses etc. while you are still grinding on short movies or music videos that might get you a step further in your career, or they could be just a gigantic waste of time and effort.
Anyone know what a good lense would be for film making? I have a Sony A7R but no lens
What kind of filming do you do?
None yet, I guess I'd like to try making indie/drama type movies
It's an A7R IV btw
What is your budget for the lens? Do you think you'll be shooting also on your own, or will you have a cinematographer and a 1st camera assistant (focus puller)?
What would be the best balance of price/quality? I guess I could spend my life savings of $5k, but I'd rather start cheaper, like under $1k, unless those are substantially worse. No assistants. Been looking at SEL85F18 85mm f/1.8, is that any good?
Um, he asked for a focus, to help with lense choice. I'm open to any genre, from Terrance Mallick to Tarantino to music videos. What am I supposed to want to do?
Yes I'd like to write my own script. I'd probably find acting students to do roles, they'd probably be happy just having something for their portfolio. Or $50 bucks. I have an M57 for audio, is that good enough? My Macbook Pro is fine for editing.
>from Terrance Mallick to Tarantino
Just had an intro to film studies class this year huh?
Nope. Should I only like French new wave or something? What is the correct response? I also like Wim Wenders, Bergman, Murray, but those styles are too obtuse for a first time film maker.
So how is the script coming along?
No script yet, I'm only starting. Should I only buy a lense once I've completed a script? I thought it'd be a good idea to start learning cinematography, lighting etc, not just writing. I mean, music videos don't even have scripts... and many directors/cinematographors/editors don't write their movies.
So you don't want to be a filmmaker but a cameraman.
Okay. Most bigger budget videos ( music videos, movies, bigger documentaries, tv shows) are manual focus only. Meaning that there is a first assistant cameraman/focus puller, who is manually focusing the lens during the shot. Back in the day they were next to the camera, nowadays they are usually doing it wirelessly with a hand unit. They spin the wheel on the hand unit, watching a focus monitor, and the motor next to the lens moves the motor, thus manually focusing. So I think with your budget and where you are starting from, you are not doing this kind of work yet.
Autofocus for the longest time was basically never used in video. But in the last about 8-10 years, autofocus has improved a lot in video, not just stills. Now there are bunch of shooters who use autofocus on their video shooting. For example "one man" band type of filmmakers like wedding filmmakers, people doing smaller scale social media stuff etc. Your camera is Sony's A7R IV. Sony has the best autofocus on the market, so you are lucky with that.
>Been looking at SEL85F18 85mm f/1.8, is that any good?
That is a good lens, I actually have it. But I think at this point it is not the right one for you. First of all, it is more of a still lens. The autofocus isn't very fast for video, it's kind of noisy and it has noticeable focus breathing.
Secondly and maybe even more importantly, if you are planning to buy just one lens right now, the 85mm focal length is probably not the best choice. It is a short tele lens, meaning that the field of view of the lens is somewhat "zoomed in". It is not a wide or a normal field of view lens and this can give you lots of problems in certain scenarios. For example if you want to shoot indoors in a smaller room/other space, you might not necessarily be able to get the shots you want, because the lens is more tighter than you'd like.
So if you are planning to get just one lens right now, I'd go for some sort of a zoom lens, that has more focal lengths than a prime/fixed lens (which the F 1.8 85mm is). Honestly it might best for you to watch some videos about what different focal lengths are etc. If you are not already aware.
I'd recommend watching some Youtube videos about recommended lenses for Sony mirrorless lenses for video work.
I can recommend couple but I'd recommend you do your own research as well
Sony FE 24-105mm f/4 G OSS
>good focal range, from wide to tele, versatile
>optically good
>not cheap but not also super expensive either
>still quite fast aperture at F4
>though not greatest F stop for low light, you probably should not worry about that at this point though
>lens has internal stabilization, helps with removing micro jitters etc. when you are shooting handheld (camera's sensor is also stabilized)
>focus breathing compensation software support
Some other Sony options, also more expensive:
Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G
Sony FE 24 - 70mm F2,8 GM
I recommended couple ones from Sony since they benefit most from the Sony camera body. However I recommend you research also Tamron, Sigma, Samyang, Nisi, Irix etc. which are all lens manufactures that make lenses for Sony as well. Usually with third party lenses you pay less, negative drawbacks being stuff like autofocus MAYBE being a little slower etc.
Also third option is to start researching fully manual lenses. Either vintage lenses ( in which case you will need an adapter for your body) or modern manual lenses (there are plenty of these made for Sony E-mount). If you go with full manual lenses, you'll be doing all the focusing with your own hand, twisting the lens. This might be a good thing for a beginner, or too much.
Thanks man, I'll check them out
Holy frick you're moronic. You haven't filmed anything and you'd 'like to make indie/drama type movies'... What, are the studios kicking down your door asking you to work for them and you're like 'no - I only make INDIE dramas'?
Are you going to write your own script? How are you going to find your actors? Do you have the audio equipment? Computer and software to do the editing?
https://tubitv.com/movies/707160/sect
There was a thread awhile back where they were posting the movies with lowest budgets to make it on Tubi. I believe this was the one with the lowest budget found - it was made for just a bit over $2,000. Is there any movies with a lower budget?
So no one on this board has any excuse not to put a movie on Tubi in 2024. Make sure to post your movie on Cinemaphile when it is completed. I believe in you, anons. We're all gonna make it.
What benefit do people have from putting their film on Tubi? Is it just about finding an audience?
The ad supported streamers pretty much accept anything. Tubi has a library of over 40,000 movies or something absurd like that. They split the revenue with you based on views right from the start and don't charge anything up front. For an ultra low budget movie, just to be seen and make a few bucks is great. Taking a movie to a film festival and getting a big distribution deal is a pipe dream, so stuff like this is a more realistic option for the vast majority of movies.
This. We’re gonna make it, good luck to you anon
yeah I dream of making a shitty horror movie that profits 100m like all the other dogshit that gets pumped out. But I cannot stand people and cant make a movie without them
no
yes but only for comedy
Nah, I really wanted to be a film preservationist/ archivist when I was younger. I am so glad I never did that because I can’t stand films anymore and it would’ve been a complete waste of money.
nope, never
thanks for asking
All the time but my dreams are too big and my mind is always on blockbusters which are very restricted by suits and executives to even let me breath and do my thing so yeah
I did when I was younger. I started making short little films when I was in elementary school, filming little war movies with green army men, dirt, firecrackers, cardboard buildings, etc. It was all in camera stuff though. It wasn't until 9th grade I got serious with a digital camcorder, video editing software, etc. In 11th grade I shot, edited, and partially directed a short film for my theater arts class. I got an award for best editing at a regional student film thing.I had a nice little youtube channel going, but I got my account banned for copyrighted music. I was so desponded that I lacked motivation to make a new account.
But it's an expensive hobby. I made some money with my camera filming and taking photos at weddings and birthdays. But as iphones and smartphones came along my services were no-longer needed. My old camcorder sucks, and I'm too poor to just spend a few thousands of dollars on new equipment.
The hardest part is finding people who even want to film with you. Everyone is too busy, even when doing nothing.
I'm thinking about making a horror film in the style of a educational film explaining what happened. But i've been telling myself that for years.
Ok chud
No. I never dreamed of being anything in particular. It's a little depressing.
>want to make a metafiction story
>realize it's selfish as frick and give up
>rinse and repeat for 8 years
>Mom is a filmmaker
>Wants me to be one too
>Literally have no creative ideas for scripts and have worked on a set enough to know being a director looks extremely boring and leaves you absolutely no free time for the duration of the shoot.
I think I could be happy being a producer though.
>Mom is a filmmaker
Imagine the population of China. That's how many dudes your mom has blown every year
I have a kino dark comedy script that I could send you, Mr. Big Shot Producer. Think Fight Club meets American Psycho.
No, I wanted to do special effects and makeup. I knew I was never cool enough to direct. Having my name as fine print in the credits that nobody bothers to read is also nice.
I sometimes still think about making machinima/animated series... specifically one about the Dark Brotherhood in Oblivion
I made shorts in highschool, but I never had the means to pursue that way
No. But I had films of being a dreammaker. And that's what no one else did.
sometimes I daydream about the movies I would make
but I get so meticulous and autismo over the types of shots and reasons why certain shots need to be done a certain way that I never make it past the first act
Yes, but i'm a weird guy who only make weird stuff.
A couple years ago, I made this short film for a online film festival and won the award of "Best Documentary", with it.
Is weird, /gif/coded and very NSFW, but some of You can like it:
https://archive.org/details/mondo-come-and-see
Feedback is always welcome.
I've written over a dozen short film scripts and I have a few ideas for features. There's one of my scripts that I know will cost almost nothing to shoot, no dialogue, a friend of mine has already agreed to act in it, I've just been a complete flake for over a year and haven't pulled the trigger. This project has loomed over me for so long that I know I need to do it before I can make anything else; as soon as I get a couple of professional things out of the way I'm promising myself right now that I'm going to hurl myself at it.
what is best resolution for make home kino in
I did but realized it takes hard work and you have to be in charge of a lot of people. I would like to be a food caterer on movie sets though, that would be cool
It depends on what you're filming, anon. A movie about two people in a room talking won't require that big of a cast and crew. Work to your strengths. If you don't like people, just minimize the amount of people you work with it. Every movie doesn't need large crowd shots and dozens of speaking roles. If you have a story to tell, just do it.
I always wanted to make serious movies with puppets. Action, thrillers, horror... Remake Taxi Driver with Oscar the Grouch
Tubi is the cinematic equivalent of shitposting. And we have entered the golden age of shitposting. Just make your puppet movie and make sure it matches their resolution standards and put it up on there. You won't be able to use existing characters or stories, but just make your own shit up. If you start a Kickstarter for your creepy puppet movie I'll give you $5. But I want an assistant producer credit.
I don't want it to be creepy necessarily, I just like the idea of mixing mediums that shouldn't go well together. I've been casually writing a noir crime drama screenplay where all the 'actors' are sockpuppets. Plays out like a classic Chandler novel. Because I obviously can't manage live actors, I'm writing it so all the dialogue is the protagonist's inner monologue as he describes the events of the story via retrospective narration.
That actually sounds pretty interesting. Just keep it under a an hour and 20 minutes. Anything more than that and the sock puppets might become tedious. You can also look at hiring voice actors for the puppets. It should be easier than working with actors on set if you have social anxiety.
Yes and I’m writing 3 movies. The dream is the only thing keeping me alive.
I still do
Yeah I took a filmmaking class at a community collwge and thw first day we all sat in a circle and said why we were taking into filmmaking. I said I wanted to be a porn director
Yeah but I realized it was a waste of time since even if you "make it" you'll only be filming shitty propaganda for masons and israelites, all while stuck in satanic, child molesting Hollyjew.
Hey man don't knock israeli masonic satanist child molestation unless you've tried it. No wonder you couldn't cut it.
>captcha: Vag n' XY
>goddamn troony mods
>couldn't cut it.
I actually have way too much talent to be one of those gutless hacks, but whatever.
the only think I've ever wanted to make was a tv show called 'The TV Show' which is completely random.
So the idea, for example, the show will be crime drama but at some point, it will start to change and turn into a talk show. Then it might shift into a sitcom for a few episodes before culminating in a musical episode that goes into a few animated episodes and then become a serious news program with actual investigative journalism. The idea is to have clever, gradual transitions. You never know what you're going to get, the only thing that remains consistent is the cast and maybe themes across seasons.
That sounds really postmodern and gay
all the sections have to be done in a genuine, authentic way where everyone is doing their best. So the drama has to be compelling with good acting. The reality TV sections have to be candid and not planned.
Ok might b cool. Still aggressively postmodern though
I just like the idea of show briefly doing something very, very well, transitioning and never returning to the previous specific style again. And you now that if you don't like a particular section, eventually it will change radically into something else.
But that sort of deconstructionist take on television is rooted in postmodern philosophy. You're trying to satirise (don't misunderstand this to mean "make a joke out of") television and pop culture. That is postmodernism; critiquing society. It doesn't matter how good the writing is or isn't, it's a philosophical root rather than a measure of quality.
Quirky and moronic
I did and do and have made a documentary feature that showed at a bunch of festivals, now I'm in the middle of working on my second one. I plan to make a narrative feature as well but not sure how to go about it.
I will say that the industry is pretty cancerous, I hate how funding works, and a lot of the people working in it are leftist dickheads. It's also very difficult if you're an antisocial moron like myself, connections and networking are extremely important.
I always wanted to be an editor, lmao. Sometimes a writer.
Yes but frick it and fricked it. Studied film many years, tried for even more years, end up being a mech engineer. If you are not a social powerhouse, networking, nepotism machine with some kind of charisma forget it.
Become a social/party powerhouse first and then learn to be good at films.
Get accent reduction classes, some acting to get your posture and presentation right and you'll be fine.
>If you are not a social powerhouse, networking, nepotism machine with some kind of charisma forget it.
how come there are these successful directors who feel socially aloof? how do they do it?
Most of them are already "Zogged-in" somehow.
You can be socially aloof if the few friends you have are the right people.
No. I always thought filmmaking would be too difficult. I did like the idea of smaller productions, but big blockbuster films seems like a huge headache with too many people to try to please.
I dream of making traditionally animated Discword kino especially the Tiffany Aching Quadrology
>The Wee Free Men
>A Hat Full Of Sky
>Wintersmith
>I Shall Wear Midnight
only if it was in the 80s or 90s, the days making kinos actually mattered, no good movies or shows exist in modern times and never will again
This. Same.
I would hate t be in the industry now
I'm too talentless, lonely, anti-system and shy to direct a movie anyway, plus my stories are way too out there to be shot with a low budget, but I don't know what other medium would help me to transpose these aduio/video ideas.
>Animation?
Why not, but know how to draw/use the appropriate software/have no friends to help me for the voice acting
>Comics?
Still can't draw for shit, plus you lack the audio aspect of it all. The drawings are also still.
>Novels?
Novels are purely descriptive and they have their own storytelling methods attached to it, it's genuinely hard to describe a sound or anything remotely visual well, especially with the stories i'm drafting
I did when I was younger, and I think deep down I still want to make at least one feature-length film before I die. The sad thing is, compared to when I was young, the cinema-going experience is becoming less important for the general public. Kids don't really seem to care about going to the movies, they are just happy to watch YouTube videos of people overreacting to other peoples content on their iPad. I would go to the cinema almost once a week as a teenager, and back then DVDs were huge and I would religiously scour the aisles at my local stores to find hidden gems I had never heard of like Tetsuo: The Iron Man, etc. It used to very difficult to make a "cinematic" video on a technical-level just 15 years ago, and now it is surprisingly easy with relatively expensive equipment. It has never been easier to make a movie and get it seen, but in a way that has diminished the magic of movie-making and devalued cinema.