I had a bad feeling about that book so I never read it, watched the first three episodes and I firmly believe this was literally written for people of exact 100 IQ.
>this netflix adaptation is dumb therefor the book is low iq
Very much this.
The entire dopey story careens along asking you to accept magic-science less plausible than old Twilight Zone episodes. And it just keeps getting dopier and less plausible, til it reaches Harry Potter with Chinks.
it would be so much better if it was written for 50 iq like the brainlet wojak who is cool like the smart wojak and not like the lame crying wojak in the middle xD
This is always the way of telling someone is a literaturelet. Classic sci-fi does not give a shit about characterization because it's about larger concepts than personal drama. The characters are only there to be a lens for the sci-fi stuff going on.
I had a bad feeling about that book so I never read it, watched the first three episodes and I firmly believe this was literally written for people of exact 100 IQ.
low iq take
the book/s is/are good, the show is trash
The books played with some cool concepts, but weren't really that good.
Tries to be hard scifi, but makes up shit all the time and follows inane premises.
And that's not even counting the fact that's not a very good story or literary work. Inconsistent pacing and no character development
It's ok, i'm sufficiently entertained because i like scifi.
This chinaman wrote wandering earth too, right?
That was full moron scifi. I wish there was better scifi, i wish there serious and good adaptations of good scifi books.At least not shit.
foundation turned to shit, the only good thing was genetic dynasty shenanigans.
Sure. It's made for the masses but for a netflix thing it's really ok. Only the lines the OP pointed really made me roll my eyes.
why is everyone acting like the books are a masterpiece? the trilogy had really cool ideas and concepts, but the characters were so shit and the character decisions make no sense half the time.
The books are tremendous. Minimal romance and emotion bullshit. Just space and VR games and science and war
low iq take
the book/s is/are good, the show is trash
I found the books messy to read, dropped it when VR first started happening.
fair, I almost gave up in the vr parts because I thought they were monotonous parable trash
someone told me to persevere so I said frick it and got the audiobook instead
I didn't like how the dying simp was brained and launched for naughtm it wasn't dramatic enough, they reacted too mildly ant the interesting idea of aliens getting him is wasted
i'll try again. I want to go further and the show's gonna take too long
you homosexuals are seriously asspained by the stupidest shit
>have an incredibly terrible scene that opens the show and immediately tells you they have no interest in depicting science with any nuance - what the series is supposed to be about - but instead will humiliate white men for girlboss political points >Not only that, but it's just an incredibly boring trite scene that I've seen in about 50 different shows or movies >But because the scene is so stupid itself, you can criticize the critics for complaining about "stupid things" - even though it's an objectively terrible scene
Defend these scene and how it's a fantastic opening to the show
>Neurologist was a woman >Waaaah this is the end of the west, this is whuite genocide, they are trying to cut my penis, I'm so gonna end I have become racist, yesterday I only liked hitler now I liek him very much!!!!!!! Gas the israelites, the blacks, the women!!!!!!!!!!
So incredibly dishonest. Don't you feel disgust with yourself going through life?
If you'll be this dishonest so easily over something so irrelevant and meaningless, what a tainted soul you must have
it would have been more natural if she just replied normally with an emphasis on "she"
what annoys me the most is that these forced dialogs are done in such a bad way, it's like a mentally ill american took the script and inserted his agenda here and there randomly
Bait post, wasted holy gets, but I'll reply for anyone who actually thinks like this.
I care because fun-hating, immersion-killing political drones care enough to put it in in the first place.
>fun-hating, immersion-killing political drones care enough to put it in in the first place
Realize that while you feel superior to these people, if you really were superior you would be a positive influence on those people's lives, instead of them being a negative influence on your life repeatedly across time and space.
If you really believe you have the capacity to influence those people, then set a good example for us to follow. If you believe it's not in your power, and you give it this much more focus than it merits, then read below:
By emotionally engaging with their constructed reality and feeding it energy; it is us the people who hate and complain and buy into that reality, who keep it alive in a feedback cycle
Absolutely nothing happened the first episode, and things happened without any context.
For people that know nothing, nothing happened, for the people that are familiar with the book or the chinese show, everything's properly fricked.
What fricking planet do leftists live on where they think that it is common belief that medical professionals are men? I’ve been in and out of hospitals for 30 years and I’ve never batted an eye at who’s gender is doing what. These people act like it is extremely recent and praiseworthy that women are doing med /science shit when I distinctly remember when I was like 6 that my radiologist was a woman. Frick off rewriting history
white and asian male doctors still typically best since they have to be best performers to get past the DEI biases in admissions
fear the most if you get a black woman doctor
Male doctors used to be objectively better, this hasn't been the case for decades though, they are all midwits as modern universities fail to filter out the low IQ people.
They do that with movies too. Black people have been in movies since before the 40s, but they act like they're striking a blow when they cast them now.
Audiobook doesn't have any of the soap opera idiocy but the names are all chink gibberish. There are only 3 characters though so just have to remember those; the traitor to humanity, the physicist and the zogbot.
don't get so sidetracked by the daily cultural angst; it is not hard to imagine that a production of this size doesn't get made today without that level of current-day cultural manipulation
That's day-to-day minutiae and circus compared to the larger scale, interesting realities that are before us.
When reading or watching about your favorite historical era or figure(s) -- aside from when emotionally trying to connect to their situation in the storytelling, how much importance do you place on whatever political and social campaigns were going on at the time?
The sense of importance and urgency and angst that we place when learning about past times (very little urgency, most likely)--
THAT is the level of urgency that we all need to collectively place on the daily manipulations like the one that prompted you to make this thread
Im not saying to not acknowledge it, and to not take action.
Absolutely, call them out on their bullshit if/when it's in your power and move on if possible. Stewing in mindrot and distrust makes us all worse
We all need to be thinking towards a more trust oriented, collaborative future (without being naive and opening up oneself for exploitation out of either a savior complex, self-hatred, or again naively thinking that truly evil people are not out there in large scale, and they don't always look ugly or scary, in fact, often the opposite)
Even you the person reading just thinking about it for 3 seconds is a collective step forward even if it doesn't feel that way. This is an opinion, but to me it seems that compound investing is very effective but our human mind&brains dislike it or can't easily intuit it
Hope you're all having a wonderful day, help me think of how to condense this half-schizo message
Keep calling out the bullshit but dont get tilted by it cause there are bigger things to worry about right now
think bigger scale, there are people from all walks of life who happened to be at the inception of both Cinemaphile and reddit and many other forgottens and have through aged, developed broader perspective or influence
you truly never know who's lurking; only the false impression you get from the vocal minority
the irony of you (and also you reading) dismissing any person/idea connected to reddit, is that in fact you have been directly (and unknowingly, apparently) influenced by people who predate both of these places, into spouting exactly the same kneejerk response you have now
I dont care who you are, but I do care about you regardless.
Nobody wants terrible things to happen (except a very tiny sociopathic or megalomanic few).
Even many of the tiny few are usually horrified by terrible things (but we have to acknowledge irredeemable people exist)
But still:
Terrible things do happen, don't they?
They've happened in my life, they've happened in your life (or will happen, I'm sorry anon), it happens to even the most rich and powerful or anyone you might hate the most; "time heals all wounds" (or at least makes some types of pains hurts less)
the part they leave out is also "time destroys everything you love"
Philosophy aside, the reality is this:
Terrible things that are within human action to influence, those things happen because me, you, them, us -- we all collectively decide to make it happen. Not just "allow it" to happen, no. We make it happen as humanity. By throwing our hands up and not thinking a better way out.
It's not just some big bad shady people allow it to happen. yes that's part of it
>b-b-but I'm good! and I have zero influence in the world, they started it!
"No!"
We don't have that luxury anymore now that we're so interconnected.
One solution is this:
I dont care who you are, but I do care about you regardless.
I'll explain later if I feel like it, how this relates to the 'reddit is cringe' response
Needed to get the importance things out first
think bigger scale, there are people from all walks of life who happened to be at the inception of both Cinemaphile and reddit and many other forgottens and have through aged, developed broader perspective or influence
you truly never know who's lurking; only the false impression you get from the vocal minority
the irony of you (and also you reading) dismissing any person/idea connected to reddit, is that in fact you have been directly (and unknowingly, apparently) influenced by people who predate both of these places, into spouting exactly the same kneejerk response you have now
>predate
pre-date, as in, came before
not predate, as in, hunting prey (that's another conversation entirely)
It's futile to resist
Love of humanity is a more powerful force than apathy of the current day; your biological mechanism is proof of it, every night you go to sleep is proof of it
How haven't we realized that life wants to grow bigger; and thinking is a dimension involved in that growth?
The growing force in the universe, which in humans, is intuited through love; that force is indifferent to apathy, and the opposite of indifference is love
simpler explanation: >reddit spacing >cringe
that type of response is symptomatic of a growing pains (not apathy) in humanity or whatever comes after [I am neither anti-human nor pro-transhumanism]
again, I don't care who those individual posters are but I do care about them
Their resistance comes out of love and concern, to which I show love back
What I'm saying falls on deaf ears to them, as does any multi-layered message
I wholeheartedly believe that somebody significant is lurking and reading this and understands
I don't really see the contradiction in the Fermi paradox. The universe is a big place, the galaxy is a big place. There is very likely intelligent life in our galaxy, but it's very very far away (from our vantage point), and any signal that we send will be diffuse and impossible to detect once it gets even remotely outside our local neighborhood. Additionally, until we discover a way to bridge the unfathomable distances between stars, i don't see us going anywhere anytime soon. And if that is indeed the case, I don't honestly see other species doing the same. I think the reality is that there are potentially hundreds or thousands of species in our galaxy, hanging out in their local nationhood. Maybe some day we will obtain some evidence that they are there, and that would certainly be cool, but we won't be able to do much with them.
There may be super advanced, galaxy spanning aliens out there somewhere, but then the problem of distances rears its ugly head, even if you figure out intergalatic travel. I dunno, i just think there are really massive technical and logistical problems between covering the kind of distance that the universe deals with.
The contradiction with Fermi is that mega structures should be visible if a civ has even slightly advanced tech. There's no reason NOT to build dyson spheres. Even if everyone sticks to their own region, you'd see that kind of shit even with modern telescopes.
>energy capture is the only purpose of a civilization.
Energy capture, use, and dispersal is the only purpose of any collection of matter in all of existence.
I did not endorse any particular person or organization in my post (at least not explicitly), other than humanity
If that is all you managed to extract from the post, I suppose the message is not meant for you and I try to say that compassionately
(I appreciate the further amplification and propagation)
if anything, despite being a reader of the books and having watched the netflix series but not tencent,
I was hoping to steer the conversation towards Fermi's observation:
why is there no publicly accessible, publicly verifiable proof of aliens?
are they that far away? are we alone?
are WE the grabby aliens?
Is even worse: >10 minutes in >white man approaches girlbosses in karaoke bar and ask them if they are going to sing >girlbosses give the guy a lengthy monologue about how smart and educated (with your normie smart sciency words) they are because they are le smart they do not sing. >Guy just goes to the stage to sing, again they were in a karaoke bar I dunno why they went to a karaoke bar to be rude to people who just want to have some fun singing and meeting new people.
>they were in a karaoke bar I dunno why they went to a karaoke bar to be rude to people who just want to have some fun singing
This is how you know the writers are redditors that think they are smarter than everyone else. The asian lady saying "Wow, courage" smugly because a woman was singing in a fricking karaoke bar, you know, the one place where you go to actually sing badly and have fun with friends?
Didn't this basically happen in she hulk? Which is probably more moronic because they were talking about a court case they are working on (which I assume you would want to keep confidential and not discuss it in a crowded bar)
I really don't buy this lip-filled Instagram model girl as a genius inventor of polymer nanofibers, you know?
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But DEI is also a thing in science and tech. So blowjoblips could have definitely been part of the C-suite of some pump-and-dump startup in [current year]. In that sense the show is realistic...
Shit serie, the book probably its the same but with science exposition to do midwits think they are smart people. Alfred Hitchwiener was right. Realist meme ruins entertainment.
>Hey you know that critically acclaimed chinese sci fi novel? >Well what if we replaced all the chinese people with Black folk and obnoxious white women
Only if the speaker has been sufficiently chastised to use gender-neutral language at all times. Like if they have worked for a Fortune 500 company within the last five years.
>book series famous for cool scientific concepts >show removes all science related plot points >introduces a bunch of scenes about men not appreciating women scientists
that is absolutely NOT what she meant lmao
Are you actually going to stand by this position rather than just realize you were wrong
Because it's an insane position
Did you not see how insanely feminist they acted?
But then they - and the writers of the show - are going to shit all over women? Are you fricking stupid? Just do the "I was pretending I was moronic" thing so you can get out of this
no. she meant it like "women neurologist are the worst"
no
She mean "Oh jesus" as in >who the frick cares about tihs i didnt mean anything by saying "he" i just care about you and your well being and what might have the doctor told you
It was clearly an overt reference to the deranged feminist meme that people say "he" when referring to professionals
I'll just assume you guys are ignorant about this, but it's very dumb you think the show - especially this show - would insult women especially when the entire setup of the scene is praising women
>They have the women go on about how amazing they are because they are women in nanofibers and in astrophysics isn't that amazing >BUT FRICK WOMEN THERAPISTS AM I RIGHT, LMAO?
like what a low IQ, stupid interpretation of what was a pretty obvious and basic yass queen meme.
Da Shi's the only real character in the first book and they absolutely gutted the shit out of him. The only problem with the adaptation I can't forgive at all since it doesn't seem to achieve anything at all.
Da Shi's the only real character in the first book and they absolutely gutted the shit out of him. The only problem with the adaptation I can't forgive at all since it doesn't seem to achieve anything at all.
>Da Shi's the only real character in the first book and they absolutely gutted the shit out of him.
He's also the only asian male they left in, out of an original majority asian male cast. These "diversity and representation" types are always hypocrites, huh?
Asian males and black females always get fricked by diversity pushes. It's pretty transparent that the less profitable demographics are the ones that get waysided.
I've never skipped anything in any media nomatter how bad it gets but im going to skip through cancer guy scenes this is fricking unwatchable
I'd rather watch the minorities
just had a quick browse of wikipedis. It seems like an interesting setting/set up, and the scientific concepts seem like interesting gimmicks but the actual storyline of what the characters do seems pretty lame and actual plot points very sparse.
The opening murder scene explains perfectly what is wrong with this thing. >Chinese version of the show: The first scientist killed herself with a bottle of sleeping pills, and they find a letter from her apartment. Very tasteful, calculated and cold. >Netflix
So uhh, the crime scene right?? Well what if the scientist wrote numbers on the wall with his own blood!!!!! and then we see... he has NO EYES!!
I was laughing out loud of the amount of schlock in this thing, i cant believe it.
I will finish watching the chinese version of this and skip the neftlix.
I started watching the chinese one and now i dont want to go back of the netflix one but theres only 2 episodes of the netflix one left for me to watch and over 9000 of the chinese one
more than half of the characters lack an actual purpose and almost every romantic relationship is meaningless. I haven't read the source material but it's painfully obvious what has been tacked on as an afterthought and what is source material.
It's obvious when a character just dies with no impact.
The struggle sessions and some of the content was cut/dialed down for the series.
Honestly it could be removed entirely without much damage to the story. Only ccp negative scene would be the death of the teacher, and that was left in.
I know they removed the struggle session scene. But there was much more negative stuff in the whole logging site and Red base. This idea people parrot that they "edited out everything that portays the ccp negatively" is completely false and moronic.
>A man and his son get into a car accident. >When they are transported to the Hospital the doctor says "I can't operate on this boy, he's my son."
Why not?
Ah they butchered it. Da Shi was the best character, the comic relief. They turned him into a depressed mancunian. The only scenes that work are the ones that actually follow the book. The rest is poorly written archetypes smugging each other off. Tencent need to drop an English dub of thier version, it is vastly superior, even with all the commie agritprop
being able to do something, and being forced to enjoy it, are two separate things
For one, I'm glad that we exist in a universe that allows individual preferences and where we aren't forced to be clones of you anon
Also, I'm on episode 6 and there is no mention of the dark forest, and this cancer whiteboi is clearly being lined up to be Yung Tianming. Did they skip the whole 2nd book?!?
It's insanely popular in China and by the way Western version is significantly more censored for political reasons than the Chinese version
The book didn't have any girlbossing scenes, trust me
So why does China allow criticizing their revolutionaries now? Don't they realize that is the fundamental basis of their government and as faith in those revolutionaries erodes, it will gradually lead to degeneration and collapse in their future just as the west has already experienced?
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Maybe you've been lied to your whole life and it's your government that's censorious and dystopian and stupid while your enemies are producing art and manufacturing and superior technology
just a thought. But no you're probably on top of the world with all your DEI hires
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China is misunderstood as monolithic like every culture is by outside cultures. They have their own culture war going on there with capitalist China and communist China at each others throats.
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You have that backwards, Capitalist China rules and uses Communist China to keep its people stupid and productive. “Communism” is a scam and the people that believe in it are fricking moronic.
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Then why are they able to ban random milquetoast Marvel movies for no reason other than a persona non grata being involved?
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You know that Deng Xiaoping (supreme leader after Mao) outright said the cultural revolution was moronic right?
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You need to stop swallowing mainstream propaganda and wrinkle your brain a bit.
> why does China allow criticizing their revolutionaries now
Because they're all dead. Soviets did the same after Stalin died. Allowing the criticism of the past deflects from the failures of the present. What is really not allowed to criticize is the current CCP and to say things like the leaders are corrupt or stupid. Just like in the west you can't talk badly about a certain tribe and all the shit they do, to talk about their influence in western governments and corporations, but its fine to shit on everyone and everything else.
> that is the fundamental basis of their government
It is just the founding myth, but not the fundamental basis of their government. The fundamental basis of their government is that the standards of living have massively increased in the past few decades and they're now a world power, and the population believe their authoritarian system of government is superior to the west, even if not perfect.
> it will gradually lead to degeneration and collapse
They're not moronic. Just like Russia they still believe in strong technocratic government and know western "democracy" is a scam. They're not gonna become morons just because their revolution was a scam too.
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The CCP's legitimacy comes from the standard of living it has given the Chinese people and the power it has given to the country.
Also Xi fricking hates the Cultural Revolution because they ruined his life.
So why does China allow criticizing their revolutionaries now? Don't they realize that is the fundamental basis of their government and as faith in those revolutionaries erodes, it will gradually lead to degeneration and collapse in their future just as the west has already experienced?
The Chinese version doesn't have the cultural revolution parts at the start iirc.
I'm curious about what censorship the english translation has. It still has women ruin everything whenever they get power, did they tone it down a little?
Just watch the original chinese version, it's one of the most based things I've seen in a long time. Doesn't make up bullshit just tells the original story and has some really interesting characters. It doesn't waste hours on interpersonal drama it just tells the story and lets you figure it out as you go along. The only downside is some poor cgi in VR scenes and the translation is a bit rough but they are minor issues compared to the nigflix trainwreck.
I'm watching it and am coninced that it was made for 'cool moments', but watching a yt about the books would be a better use of my time than finishing this.
I fricking hate like 95% of Sci-Fi cause it spends most of its time going into lore I don't give a shit about. Is this any better? I like Philip K. Dick.
>all the chinese propaganda
the story is literally about a chinese woman who hates the CCP and decides to doom the earth to destruction because of what commies did to her and her family
kys apologist, the entire fricking story is butchered not just that one fricking scene.
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Anonymous
trust me, there's a lot to get worked up over the shitty show, but that change isn't one of them. It literally changes nothing.
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Isn't it past your bedtime david?
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I don't get why you're so butt blasted by it. I'm not saying it's good or that the show is good. The show was a huge disappointment. That change was inconsequential.
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If it doesn't matter than why change it?
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because the show is clearly working towards the long game. They don't want to introduce new characters in future seasons, so Wade was introduced in the first and they have to establish that he's an butthole willing to kill kids. The whole thing is stupid but to get worked up that they put a community on the boat and cry because it's not like that in the books is bonkers to me.
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>It literally changes nothing.
I don't get why you're so butt blasted by it. I'm not saying it's good or that the show is good. The show was a huge disappointment. That change was inconsequential.
>That change was inconsequential.
Brainlet read this, it changed the entire political subtext
because they wanted to destroy the entire story of ETO. Turned Evans from a treehugging psychopath eco-terrorist into misguided Alien Pope, and turned Ye Wenjie from dejected and fatalistic "hope humanity can be saved by space bros" into revenge b***h genocide humanity because of commies.
Because China Bad, and ecologists good, or some shit.
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yeah, I get that. But that one scene specifically doesn't change anything. Having the kids and families there doesn't change anything. The show already had ruined the whole ETO story line by then. What specifically do you object to that it wasn't just sailors and mercs?
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Well in that sense yes... the ETO story had already been butchered before that scene. In that scene it was just for extra shock value and so blowjoblips can call Wade a fascist and throw a tantrum. This is from the makers of GOT after all.
because they wanted to destroy the entire story of ETO. Turned Evans from a treehugging psychopath eco-terrorist into misguided Alien Pope, and turned Ye Wenjie from dejected and fatalistic "hope humanity can be saved by space bros" into revenge b***h genocide humanity because of commies.
Because China Bad, and ecologists good, or some shit.
>Ye Wenjie from dejected and fatalistic "hope humanity can be saved by space bros"
been a long time since I read the book but I remember her wanting them to come to destroy humanity.
I read them you mongoloid. The book is obviously critical of the cultural revolution but it doesn't criticize contemporary China, if anything the majority of the book plots glorifies a technocratic ruthless government and shits on democracy as weak. However this Netflix slop goes out of its way to shit on everything Chinese because its made by ameriburgers and there's a fricking cold war going on in case you haven't noticed. When this show was first anounced literally everything was about how fricking brave they were for showing the struggle session scene, which was CENSORED in china!!!1!
Also the TV show didn't want to show an eco-terrorist anti-human sociopath because ecologism is a fricking religion for the Netflix audience and showing it in any potential negative light would be like pandering to rightwingers in their delusional minds. My comment had nothing to do with the way the books treat the subject.
>if anything the majority of the book plots glorifies a technocratic ruthless government and shits on democracy as weak
yes anon that's what happens when a race of superior aliens are on the way to exterminate us. you're not wasting time holding elections when it's doomsday. ruthless authoritarianism is the only option in that scenario
I thought it's alright. At first I was fuming how they split one character into four, but they did a good job of joining/blending arcs and characters. Same with taking from World's End into first season for the grand surprise if they ever get a third season, or maybe they'll cram two books into one. What I don't get is how did this cost 300m when it's onwards when crazy space shit happens that'll need expensive sets and/or cgi, while here there was only the ship, sophon assembly, fleet start and I guess VR. It's probably going to die here because I doubt they'll get more cash.
>but they did a good job of joining/blending arcs and characters.
literally the worst part. I don't like how this small circle of friends will now pretty much be present at all of humanity's biggest and final events.
People were always the weakest part of the series, and with the hibernation shit it was even worse. I don't mind them taking this route of black Sheldon and crew being eased out to the audience. It's not like I remember most of the chink characters names.
In the books there already grows a group of hibernating friends. I'm letting this slide for tv hook magic. If there's something to b***h about it's the fat nerd guy who only exists to say frick and holy frick and then die and pass money to friend. Flying head might have as well been rich from get go.
Haven't read any of the threads including this one. Only 4 eps in. I've also never read the books. My $0.02...
It's a phenomenal sci-fi by Netflix standards, but that qualifier matters. The CGI is so cheaply done it hurts this show, and I'm not someone who typically cares about lesser quality CGI. It really does hurt this show tho. Also, knowing nothing about the book, I hate that all the chars are 420 BLAZE IT gayIT chars. The world's foremost physicists aren't like this, and while accurately portraying would make for a boring show, there has to be a comfy median.
7/10 I like it but why did Netflix cheap out on the CGI so hard?
The whole thing is on youtube, but you can find it on any torrent site as well. It's just called 3 body. If you need "drama" and GRAPHICS to be engaged don't bother. It's a slow story about smart people having conversations about science trying to figure things out.
But it's a thousand times better than any western slop to come out in the last 5 years. Great characters and people actually acting like real human beings instead of walking quip machines.
I think it was decent. Obviously has a lot of cringe Netflixisms (diversifying the cast, "strong women", needless insertions of modern politics), but I think many of the other changes were perfectly fine--even good.
Making Thomas Wade a much more prominent character was great. Making all the main characters a group of friends--maybe a bit implausible, but it enables a lot of nice scenes and lets them use dialogue to tell the story. A truly faithful adaption here would have pretty much none of the main characters talking to one another. Bringing forward some Dark Forest/Death's End plotlines was also totally fine, I think the show had very good pacing.
The only big mistake was making Augustina so fricking horrible. God, she's a braindead obnoxious moralist in every scene. Absolutely horrible.
Putting human mindset/thinking on that of aliens. Doesn't factor in vastness of space or civilizations dying out due to x, y, z. It's literally cope for the Fermi paradox
The problem isn’t projecting human values, it’s assuming technological explosion and subsequent scarcity of resources. There’s no current suggestion that miracles like strong force manipulation, space warping, or dimensional compression are possible, and travel will probably be limited by the speed of light between very distant solar systems. Hence there is very little motivation to attack and destroy all other possible alien civilizations. Game theory suggests that such an aggressive posture would backfire in the long run.
>Game theory suggests that such an aggressive posture would backfire in the long run.
Why? Eliminating players early is a winning strategy where goal is survival.
Because, unless you are one of the very first species, it is unlikely that you will be advanced enough to threaten the others. Attacking everyone at once will lead to your extermination. And if the very first species decided that omnixenocide was best, why are we even here? They’ve had millions if not billions of years to map the entire galaxy.
The most plausible solutions to the Fermi paradox are:
1. Intelligent life is very rare / we are the first.
2. Alien civilizations don’t bother to expand physically.
3. The Prime Directive is real (the silliest one but plausible if you think UFOs are aliens).
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And now you're talking from a human point of view, that is a young civilization. Assuming space is millions of years old and that in meantime there were others they could have seen what happens when one solar system tried to expand. It might have been interstellar nukes, dogfights in orbits, subjugation on land, many losses, comebacks, pleas, truces, betrayals. Ultimately they decided to just frick it and nuke you if you even start to pose a threat. It makes even more sense in the dimension shattering tech because far away civilizations could have had their own galaxy wide wars and end up with same idea. If you want to go out and say "Hey we're not that bad!" you get blasted because frick you we've heard that before.
>it doesn't matter >its already ruined >its bad trust me goy >also I'm going to vehemently defend it while at the same time claim it doesn't matter
Don't waste your time arguing with gods chosen people, they will twist their words just like the snake they were born from.
You don't think a woman can be a Neurologist?
I have a family member with spastic severe cerebral palsy and her Neurologist was a woman and this was in 1989.
This seemed a complete normal thing to me.
Book 1 is critical for Book 2.
Book 2 works as an ending to the series. Book 3 is okay but it gets away from itself. The characters have zero agency and everything happens around them by them literally doing nothing.
why is everyone acting like the books are a masterpiece? the trilogy had really cool ideas and concepts, but the characters were so shit and the character decisions make no sense half the time.
the slicing was pretty intersting but the speed of it all seemed inconsistent, if it matched the camera speed then the people diet to fast, if it was faster then people shouldn't die so quick and easy
I had a bad feeling about that book so I never read it, watched the first three episodes and I firmly believe this was literally written for people of exact 100 IQ.
>this netflix adaptation is dumb therefor the book is low iq
lol
clown
>this netflix adaptation is dumb therefor the book is low iq
Very much this.
The entire dopey story careens along asking you to accept magic-science less plausible than old Twilight Zone episodes. And it just keeps getting dopier and less plausible, til it reaches Harry Potter with Chinks.
Finished the first book yday and I liked it. Yes, that means it's pretty good
low iq take
the book/s is/are good, the show is trash
The show is literally nothing like the book. It can barely be called by the same name. Its more different than the wheel of time show
it would be so much better if it was written for 50 iq like the brainlet wojak who is cool like the smart wojak and not like the lame crying wojak in the middle xD
The books are tremendous. Minimal romance and emotion bullshit. Just space and VR games and science and war
There's always that girl who reads science fiction expecting characterization and relationship drama.
giving them literacy was a mistake
This is always the way of telling someone is a literaturelet. Classic sci-fi does not give a shit about characterization because it's about larger concepts than personal drama. The characters are only there to be a lens for the sci-fi stuff going on.
The books played with some cool concepts, but weren't really that good.
Tries to be hard scifi, but makes up shit all the time and follows inane premises.
And that's not even counting the fact that's not a very good story or literary work. Inconsistent pacing and no character development
Since you're so smart, expand
It's ok, i'm sufficiently entertained because i like scifi.
This chinaman wrote wandering earth too, right?
That was full moron scifi. I wish there was better scifi, i wish there serious and good adaptations of good scifi books.At least not shit.
foundation turned to shit, the only good thing was genetic dynasty shenanigans.
Sure. It's made for the masses but for a netflix thing it's really ok. Only the lines the OP pointed really made me roll my eyes.
I found the books messy to read, dropped it when VR first started happening.
fair, I almost gave up in the vr parts because I thought they were monotonous parable trash
someone told me to persevere so I said frick it and got the audiobook instead
I didn't like how the dying simp was brained and launched for naughtm it wasn't dramatic enough, they reacted too mildly ant the interesting idea of aliens getting him is wasted
i'll try again. I want to go further and the show's gonna take too long
he gets a great comeback, assuming they get that far in adaptation. I'll be mad if they just have him yapping instead of some animated fairy tales.
there is nothing in my body or mind that compels me to watch this
she what
She
She screams in silence
A sullen riot penetrating through her mind
Waiting for a sign to smash the silence with the brick of self-control
you homosexuals are seriously asspained by the stupidest shit
Black person YOU are asspained enough to put nonsensical shit like that in movie scripts.
>We need to remind everyone that women can be doctors too!
Nah, you're a fricking idiot bud
keep it in your diversity seminar, becky
this by the way
>have an incredibly terrible scene that opens the show and immediately tells you they have no interest in depicting science with any nuance - what the series is supposed to be about - but instead will humiliate white men for girlboss political points
>Not only that, but it's just an incredibly boring trite scene that I've seen in about 50 different shows or movies
>But because the scene is so stupid itself, you can criticize the critics for complaining about "stupid things" - even though it's an objectively terrible scene
Defend these scene and how it's a fantastic opening to the show
>Neurologist was a woman
>Waaaah this is the end of the west, this is whuite genocide, they are trying to cut my penis, I'm so gonna end I have become racist, yesterday I only liked hitler now I liek him very much!!!!!!! Gas the israelites, the blacks, the women!!!!!!!!!!
I have ample reason to believe a woman neurologist has only reached that position because of affirmative action.
So incredibly dishonest. Don't you feel disgust with yourself going through life?
If you'll be this dishonest so easily over something so irrelevant and meaningless, what a tainted soul you must have
Can you go five minutes without thinking about asspained homosexuals?
it would have been more natural if she just replied normally with an emphasis on "she"
what annoys me the most is that these forced dialogs are done in such a bad way, it's like a mentally ill american took the script and inserted his agenda here and there randomly
t. womynist ally
Bait post, wasted holy gets, but I'll reply for anyone who actually thinks like this.
I care because fun-hating, immersion-killing political drones care enough to put it in in the first place.
>fun-hating, immersion-killing political drones care enough to put it in in the first place
Realize that while you feel superior to these people, if you really were superior you would be a positive influence on those people's lives, instead of them being a negative influence on your life repeatedly across time and space.
If you really believe you have the capacity to influence those people, then set a good example for us to follow. If you believe it's not in your power, and you give it this much more focus than it merits, then read below:
By emotionally engaging with their constructed reality and feeding it energy; it is us the people who hate and complain and buy into that reality, who keep it alive in a feedback cycle
Tsmt
This is a thing that happens in conversations all the time and nobody interprets it as a "girl boss moment". You people need to relax
Absolutely nothing happened the first episode, and things happened without any context.
For people that know nothing, nothing happened, for the people that are familiar with the book or the chinese show, everything's properly fricked.
>meanwhile
and it’s that she found nothing wrong with her, despite the fact something is objectively wrong. It makes the neurologist sound incompetent
>This is actual dialogue from pic related.
I look like that.
nice self portrait
My self portrait looks like that
Why are you posting pictures of me?
He cute
What fricking planet do leftists live on where they think that it is common belief that medical professionals are men? I’ve been in and out of hospitals for 30 years and I’ve never batted an eye at who’s gender is doing what. These people act like it is extremely recent and praiseworthy that women are doing med /science shit when I distinctly remember when I was like 6 that my radiologist was a woman. Frick off rewriting history
Especially when doctors have 0 credibility left after the pandemic scam and killing everyone to keep their government approval.
Doctors have zero credibility because it’s been filled with women who aren’t paternal.
white and asian male doctors still typically best since they have to be best performers to get past the DEI biases in admissions
fear the most if you get a black woman doctor
I don't care how racist it is I will only ever trust an asian guy if I ever need any work of any sort done that requires an academic background
Male doctors used to be objectively better, this hasn't been the case for decades though, they are all midwits as modern universities fail to filter out the low IQ people.
I thought the dialogue implied that the doctor is a troony.
>she
Most surgeons are male
Most intelligent people are male
They do that with movies too. Black people have been in movies since before the 40s, but they act like they're striking a blow when they cast them now.
Same with strong women roles.. common in the 40s
Finally, a show for people that say "I FRICKING LOVE SCIENCE!"
WHAT EPISODE IS THIS?? I fast forward sometimes because it was boring myst have mised this scene
>WHAT EPISODE IS THIS?? I fast forward sometimes because it was boring myst have mised this scene
It's from the 30 episode slow as frick chinese version that was released first.
>slow as frick chinese show
they actually took the time to cover most the book instead of glossing over 10 different sideplots in 12 episodes
>You dont even have a girlfriend.
>What if i like boys?
There were at least 5 allusions to someone being gay or knowing someone who was gay, or it being okay if someone was gay.
Each one felt hilariously forced.
Should I watch this with a tube amp?
shes so cute bros
this and that ancient chink granny swearing like a teenage girl out of nowhere actually had me cringe.
frick these writers, honestly can't wait for all of them to be replaced by AI.
Thats weird. I heard her say frick a few times and wasn't bothered. I know old people who curse like you wouldn't believe, its just how they speak.
Chinese women who lived through the cultural revolution do not routinely say "motherfricker"
It's not the fact that she cursed, its that it was completely out of character for her to do it.
Audiobook doesn't have any of the soap opera idiocy but the names are all chink gibberish. There are only 3 characters though so just have to remember those; the traitor to humanity, the physicist and the zogbot.
>T. amerimutt and his inability to wrap his head around anything non-mutt
It's more the case of the abbreviations phonetically not resembling the full name. I had the same problem with the audiobook, but not the actual book.
I literally just turned this off a moment ago after the woman scientist elbowed the black man commenting on her ass.
I'm tired of Black folk and girl-bosses
the books have none of that stuff
yes but let's ask the real questions
don't get so sidetracked by the daily cultural angst; it is not hard to imagine that a production of this size doesn't get made today without that level of current-day cultural manipulation
That's day-to-day minutiae and circus compared to the larger scale, interesting realities that are before us.
When reading or watching about your favorite historical era or figure(s) -- aside from when emotionally trying to connect to their situation in the storytelling, how much importance do you place on whatever political and social campaigns were going on at the time?
The sense of importance and urgency and angst that we place when learning about past times (very little urgency, most likely)--
THAT is the level of urgency that we all need to collectively place on the daily manipulations like the one that prompted you to make this thread
Im not saying to not acknowledge it, and to not take action.
Absolutely, call them out on their bullshit if/when it's in your power and move on if possible. Stewing in mindrot and distrust makes us all worse
We all need to be thinking towards a more trust oriented, collaborative future (without being naive and opening up oneself for exploitation out of either a savior complex, self-hatred, or again naively thinking that truly evil people are not out there in large scale, and they don't always look ugly or scary, in fact, often the opposite)
Even you the person reading just thinking about it for 3 seconds is a collective step forward even if it doesn't feel that way. This is an opinion, but to me it seems that compound investing is very effective but our human mind&brains dislike it or can't easily intuit it
Hope you're all having a wonderful day, help me think of how to condense this half-schizo message
Keep calling out the bullshit but dont get tilted by it cause there are bigger things to worry about right now
also
reddit post
think bigger scale, there are people from all walks of life who happened to be at the inception of both Cinemaphile and reddit and many other forgottens and have through aged, developed broader perspective or influence
you truly never know who's lurking; only the false impression you get from the vocal minority
the irony of you (and also you reading) dismissing any person/idea connected to reddit, is that in fact you have been directly (and unknowingly, apparently) influenced by people who predate both of these places, into spouting exactly the same kneejerk response you have now
what are you talking about
I dont care who you are, but I do care about you regardless.
Nobody wants terrible things to happen (except a very tiny sociopathic or megalomanic few).
Even many of the tiny few are usually horrified by terrible things (but we have to acknowledge irredeemable people exist)
But still:
Terrible things do happen, don't they?
They've happened in my life, they've happened in your life (or will happen, I'm sorry anon), it happens to even the most rich and powerful or anyone you might hate the most; "time heals all wounds" (or at least makes some types of pains hurts less)
the part they leave out is also "time destroys everything you love"
Philosophy aside, the reality is this:
Terrible things that are within human action to influence, those things happen because me, you, them, us -- we all collectively decide to make it happen. Not just "allow it" to happen, no. We make it happen as humanity. By throwing our hands up and not thinking a better way out.
It's not just some big bad shady people allow it to happen. yes that's part of it
>b-b-but I'm good! and I have zero influence in the world, they started it!
"No!"
We don't have that luxury anymore now that we're so interconnected.
One solution is this:
I dont care who you are, but I do care about you regardless.
I'll explain later if I feel like it, how this relates to the 'reddit is cringe' response
Needed to get the importance things out first
>predate
pre-date, as in, came before
not predate, as in, hunting prey (that's another conversation entirely)
Go back
It's futile to resist
Love of humanity is a more powerful force than apathy of the current day; your biological mechanism is proof of it, every night you go to sleep is proof of it
How haven't we realized that life wants to grow bigger; and thinking is a dimension involved in that growth?
The growing force in the universe, which in humans, is intuited through love; that force is indifferent to apathy, and the opposite of indifference is love
simpler explanation:
>reddit spacing
>cringe
that type of response is symptomatic of a growing pains (not apathy) in humanity or whatever comes after [I am neither anti-human nor pro-transhumanism]
again, I don't care who those individual posters are but I do care about them
Their resistance comes out of love and concern, to which I show love back
What I'm saying falls on deaf ears to them, as does any multi-layered message
I wholeheartedly believe that somebody significant is lurking and reading this and understands
Redditor without question
I don't really see the contradiction in the Fermi paradox. The universe is a big place, the galaxy is a big place. There is very likely intelligent life in our galaxy, but it's very very far away (from our vantage point), and any signal that we send will be diffuse and impossible to detect once it gets even remotely outside our local neighborhood. Additionally, until we discover a way to bridge the unfathomable distances between stars, i don't see us going anywhere anytime soon. And if that is indeed the case, I don't honestly see other species doing the same. I think the reality is that there are potentially hundreds or thousands of species in our galaxy, hanging out in their local nationhood. Maybe some day we will obtain some evidence that they are there, and that would certainly be cool, but we won't be able to do much with them.
There may be super advanced, galaxy spanning aliens out there somewhere, but then the problem of distances rears its ugly head, even if you figure out intergalatic travel. I dunno, i just think there are really massive technical and logistical problems between covering the kind of distance that the universe deals with.
The contradiction with Fermi is that mega structures should be visible if a civ has even slightly advanced tech. There's no reason NOT to build dyson spheres. Even if everyone sticks to their own region, you'd see that kind of shit even with modern telescopes.
Telescopes are showing you million year old space, why would you see a modern mega structure ?
dyson spheres are 20th century imagination of what hyper advanced civilization would be if energy capture is the only purpose of a civilization.
>energy capture is the only purpose of a civilization.
Energy capture, use, and dispersal is the only purpose of any collection of matter in all of existence.
>The contradiction with Fermi is that mega structures should be visible
That's assuming mega structures are both feasible and preferable
>just enjoy the slop goyim
yikes
I did not endorse any particular person or organization in my post (at least not explicitly), other than humanity
If that is all you managed to extract from the post, I suppose the message is not meant for you and I try to say that compassionately
(I appreciate the further amplification and propagation)
if anything, despite being a reader of the books and having watched the netflix series but not tencent,
I was hoping to steer the conversation towards Fermi's observation:
why is there no publicly accessible, publicly verifiable proof of aliens?
are they that far away? are we alone?
are WE the grabby aliens?
>If you don't shut the frick up I'll put my fist through your head
Actual dialogue
>It never happened its a deepfake
I damn near dropped it right there.
>10 minutes in
>white man approaches girlbosses in bar and is,,, le bad for doing so
>gets humiliated on screen
Every scene has something cringe in it. Unwatchable.
Is even worse:
>10 minutes in
>white man approaches girlbosses in karaoke bar and ask them if they are going to sing
>girlbosses give the guy a lengthy monologue about how smart and educated (with your normie smart sciency words) they are because they are le smart they do not sing.
>Guy just goes to the stage to sing, again they were in a karaoke bar I dunno why they went to a karaoke bar to be rude to people who just want to have some fun singing and meeting new people.
this
it's like theyre trying to make the guy looks bad but the b***hes ended up looking like a bunch of buttholes and the guy seems chill
>they were in a karaoke bar I dunno why they went to a karaoke bar to be rude to people who just want to have some fun singing
This is how you know the writers are redditors that think they are smarter than everyone else. The asian lady saying "Wow, courage" smugly because a woman was singing in a fricking karaoke bar, you know, the one place where you go to actually sing badly and have fun with friends?
>goes to bar
>"We're here to talk science, chud."
>White people having a good time
>"This bar has gone to shit. Save me space Black personman!"
Didn't this basically happen in she hulk? Which is probably more moronic because they were talking about a court case they are working on (which I assume you would want to keep confidential and not discuss it in a crowded bar)
>Didn't this basically happen in she hulk?
Yes, basically the same ball breaking.
I really don't buy this lip-filled Instagram model girl as a genius inventor of polymer nanofibers, you know?
But DEI is also a thing in science and tech. So blowjoblips could have definitely been part of the C-suite of some pump-and-dump startup in [current year]. In that sense the show is realistic...
>wow, courage
No. They did not say that. I refuse to believe it.
It wasn't courage, but yeah.
I just want for Shinji Aoba to escape and go after Netflix instead.
Shit serie, the book probably its the same but with science exposition to do midwits think they are smart people. Alfred Hitchwiener was right. Realist meme ruins entertainment.
women can be neurologists too. don't ever assume a doctor's gender, chud.
>Hey you know that critically acclaimed chinese sci fi novel?
>Well what if we replaced all the chinese people with Black folk and obnoxious white women
we get it you hate women cause you have never had sex
That's why I don't give a shit when Netflix releases something. It's like Disney on the other side of the coin.
Wouldn’t most English speakers say “what did they say” in this context? Even if they assumed the neurologist was a man.
yes but then you can't have the feminism pandering
Why would they say that? Neurologist is singular
Only if the speaker has been sufficiently chastised to use gender-neutral language at all times. Like if they have worked for a Fortune 500 company within the last five years.
English speakers would have said
>i went to the neurologist
>what did he say
>she said i have brain cancer
>thank god you're finally gonna die
Exactly, you would ask "what did the neurologist say?" or "did they explain what was going on?"
only AI movies will be good in the future since everything that needs a budget will have to comply to these moronic requirements
I hate the cancer character so much
all this b***hing about blacks and women when the white male is by far the worst fricking character
Genuinely why does netflix keep doing this, it must be costing them millions with these failed shows.
they're indebited to making this slop because of ESG/ DEI money from Blackrock/ Statestreet/ Vanguard
>book series famous for cool scientific concepts
>show removes all science related plot points
>introduces a bunch of scenes about men not appreciating women scientists
Nice bait. Just leave out the next line where they be like "she? oh jesus"
You misinterpreted lmao
She meant "oh jesus I'm so silly for assuming it was a man and saying He and not assuming it was a stunning brave woman"
no. she meant it like "women neurologist are the worst"
that is absolutely NOT what she meant lmao
Are you actually going to stand by this position rather than just realize you were wrong
Because it's an insane position
Did you not see how insanely feminist they acted?
But then they - and the writers of the show - are going to shit all over women? Are you fricking stupid? Just do the "I was pretending I was moronic" thing so you can get out of this
no
no
She mean "Oh jesus" as in
>who the frick cares about tihs i didnt mean anything by saying "he" i just care about you and your well being and what might have the doctor told you
It was clearly an overt reference to the deranged feminist meme that people say "he" when referring to professionals
I'll just assume you guys are ignorant about this, but it's very dumb you think the show - especially this show - would insult women especially when the entire setup of the scene is praising women
>They have the women go on about how amazing they are because they are women in nanofibers and in astrophysics isn't that amazing
>BUT FRICK WOMEN THERAPISTS AM I RIGHT, LMAO?
like what a low IQ, stupid interpretation of what was a pretty obvious and basic yass queen meme.
Wade and the Cop are the best characters. The poor Cop is divorced and has a homosexual son.
Da Shi's the only real character in the first book and they absolutely gutted the shit out of him. The only problem with the adaptation I can't forgive at all since it doesn't seem to achieve anything at all.
>Da Shi's the only real character in the first book and they absolutely gutted the shit out of him.
He's also the only asian male they left in, out of an original majority asian male cast. These "diversity and representation" types are always hypocrites, huh?
Asian males and black females always get fricked by diversity pushes. It's pretty transparent that the less profitable demographics are the ones that get waysided.
black men are on average far less profitable than attractive brown women, which do exist but are rarely if ever utilized.
It's worse
>An ingrate homosexual son
I like ser onion knight in this, i had never seen him in anything other than game of thrones
I've never skipped anything in any media nomatter how bad it gets but im going to skip through cancer guy scenes this is fricking unwatchable
I'd rather watch the minorities
Anyone else gets a Michael Crichton vibe from the show?
White people and israelites genuinely don't know how to adapt things anymore.
Every time they try they just make it worse.
Just get the HBO Chernobyl people. Imagine what they would have done. Like 100% Asian cast.
YASSS KWEEN
Fighting the patriarchy is a neverending battle
At least they didn't shoehorn in the doctor being Indian or Somalian or some even more forced crap.
I am just bummed out about the fact that the science is not front and center. Now it's all about the characters.
shut up bigot, now watch the girlboss and her black boyfriend
just had a quick browse of wikipedis. It seems like an interesting setting/set up, and the scientific concepts seem like interesting gimmicks but the actual storyline of what the characters do seems pretty lame and actual plot points very sparse.
>David Benioff
>D. B. Weiss
>Ram Bergman
>Jeremy Kleiner
Yeah
>Dabid
>And Dabid
Pass.
>PRODUCED by
> Brad Pitt
> Rosamund Pike
> Rian Johnson
Wait... what?
More like Rosamund israelite
3 goy problem.
Not watching this sinslop
it was pretty sick until episode 5
everything from ep6 onwards was total a waste of time
more like 3 bo DEI problem.
instead of spamming the catalog buy an ad chang it's like three fiddy for a whole month
nineteen eighty nine tiananmen square massacre
this actually happens anon then you just quickly move on
a normal person would have simply continued, e.g. "she said blah blah blah", not screeched out some anti-male girl power propaganda seethe about it.
though more realistically in real life the first guy would have said "what fake illness did that israelite diagnose you with this time?"
The opening murder scene explains perfectly what is wrong with this thing.
>Chinese version of the show: The first scientist killed herself with a bottle of sleeping pills, and they find a letter from her apartment. Very tasteful, calculated and cold.
>Netflix
So uhh, the crime scene right?? Well what if the scientist wrote numbers on the wall with his own blood!!!!! and then we see... he has NO EYES!!
I was laughing out loud of the amount of schlock in this thing, i cant believe it.
I will finish watching the chinese version of this and skip the neftlix.
>netflix series
what the frick did you expect lmao. it's always slop of the lowest degree written by hacks. no exceptions
>m-muh nanofibers can do anything!!!!!1111
Practically capeshit.
Wonder if Netflix will decide it deserves another season, and if so, how long it will take. Late 2027, maybe?
It was two women that said those things, it was supposed to be funny you snowflake
I had a feeling it will be pozzed, guess i'll go watch the chink version.
>Chinese guy doesn't mind being called a bug.
Pottery.
>watching Shitflex originals
You bought it upon yourself
I started watching the chinese one and now i dont want to go back of the netflix one but theres only 2 episodes of the netflix one left for me to watch and over 9000 of the chinese one
more than half of the characters lack an actual purpose and almost every romantic relationship is meaningless. I haven't read the source material but it's painfully obvious what has been tacked on as an afterthought and what is source material.
It's obvious when a character just dies with no impact.
I will now never watch your show.
listen to the audiobook or at least watch the chinese show. It's pretty good.
>or at least watch the chinese show
It's over long and they edit out anything that might portray the ccp negatively...
>they edit out anything that might portray the ccp negatively...
Bullshit. Where did you midwits get this idea?
The struggle sessions and some of the content was cut/dialed down for the series.
Honestly it could be removed entirely without much damage to the story. Only ccp negative scene would be the death of the teacher, and that was left in.
I know they removed the struggle session scene. But there was much more negative stuff in the whole logging site and Red base. This idea people parrot that they "edited out everything that portays the ccp negatively" is completely false and moronic.
>A man and his son get into a car accident.
>When they are transported to the Hospital the doctor says "I can't operate on this boy, he's my son."
Why not?
The doctor was the boy’s other father.
Ah they butchered it. Da Shi was the best character, the comic relief. They turned him into a depressed mancunian. The only scenes that work are the ones that actually follow the book. The rest is poorly written archetypes smugging each other off. Tencent need to drop an English dub of thier version, it is vastly superior, even with all the commie agritprop
>Tencent need to drop an English dub
is reading really so hard for you?
No but you can see the actor emote and read at the same time. The audiobook sounds like anime. An anime sounding dub for Tencent would be awesome
being able to do something, and being forced to enjoy it, are two separate things
For one, I'm glad that we exist in a universe that allows individual preferences and where we aren't forced to be clones of you anon
Also, I'm on episode 6 and there is no mention of the dark forest, and this cancer whiteboi is clearly being lined up to be Yung Tianming. Did they skip the whole 2nd book?!?
kek how will that translate back into the chinese dub which only differentiates between pronouns in writing
Did you see the opening scene? There won't be a Chinese dub, because no way this isn't banned in China.
You're right, just wait til Mr. China finds out it's a book and now he has to ban that too!!..ohhhhohoho imagine the look on his face
The book has to already be banned in China, there's no way they'd allow a book that criticizes the Chinese revolutionaries.
just end yourself.
It's insanely popular in China and by the way Western version is significantly more censored for political reasons than the Chinese version
The book didn't have any girlbossing scenes, trust me
So why does China allow criticizing their revolutionaries now? Don't they realize that is the fundamental basis of their government and as faith in those revolutionaries erodes, it will gradually lead to degeneration and collapse in their future just as the west has already experienced?
Maybe you've been lied to your whole life and it's your government that's censorious and dystopian and stupid while your enemies are producing art and manufacturing and superior technology
just a thought. But no you're probably on top of the world with all your DEI hires
China is misunderstood as monolithic like every culture is by outside cultures. They have their own culture war going on there with capitalist China and communist China at each others throats.
You have that backwards, Capitalist China rules and uses Communist China to keep its people stupid and productive. “Communism” is a scam and the people that believe in it are fricking moronic.
Then why are they able to ban random milquetoast Marvel movies for no reason other than a persona non grata being involved?
You know that Deng Xiaoping (supreme leader after Mao) outright said the cultural revolution was moronic right?
You need to stop swallowing mainstream propaganda and wrinkle your brain a bit.
> why does China allow criticizing their revolutionaries now
Because they're all dead. Soviets did the same after Stalin died. Allowing the criticism of the past deflects from the failures of the present. What is really not allowed to criticize is the current CCP and to say things like the leaders are corrupt or stupid. Just like in the west you can't talk badly about a certain tribe and all the shit they do, to talk about their influence in western governments and corporations, but its fine to shit on everyone and everything else.
> that is the fundamental basis of their government
It is just the founding myth, but not the fundamental basis of their government. The fundamental basis of their government is that the standards of living have massively increased in the past few decades and they're now a world power, and the population believe their authoritarian system of government is superior to the west, even if not perfect.
> it will gradually lead to degeneration and collapse
They're not moronic. Just like Russia they still believe in strong technocratic government and know western "democracy" is a scam. They're not gonna become morons just because their revolution was a scam too.
The CCP's legitimacy comes from the standard of living it has given the Chinese people and the power it has given to the country.
Also Xi fricking hates the Cultural Revolution because they ruined his life.
The Chinese version doesn't have the cultural revolution parts at the start iirc.
I'm curious about what censorship the english translation has. It still has women ruin everything whenever they get power, did they tone it down a little?
I'm glad I'm not autistic enough to notice things like this. It'd really make any media impossible to enjoy.
>Shi and Wangs expanded relationships
>Scene with the daughter
>The music
China is now able to add soul, while the west removes it. It's over.
The west made this show, anon.
yes, I was comparing this garbage, soulless western show to the superior Chinese version with Soul
this site needs a button to auto go to (you)s.
I don't read anything but my own replies.
>he doesn't use CinemaphileX
God imagine actually sitting at a computer to talk to you morons. Also 2 away from greatness.
Extensions have been supported for some phone browsers for a few years now
It's a great quality of life update
Oh, sorry, snowflake, should they have added a trigger warning for you? Maybe try talking about it with your therapist.
He said she? I don't get it.
Drive the point home in a subtle way
He said she oh Jesus? The frick does that man? Jesus was a man.
This is so pointless.
>This is so pointless.
It's a random stab at the viewer to remind them of gender assumptions. It wasn't needed and added nothing.
most of the first episode wasn't needed and added nothing.
WHAT THE HELL THIS MEANS??? can someone please explaine i dont understand
He said she what?
When you don't know the sex of the person you're tailing about you use the gender neutral form "he".
Get it? Because she was actually a Woman you silly billy! Why did you assume?
The writers really got you there.
The doctor was g-g-gh-ghost!
Then who the hell was phone?
Heat Legend
I assumed the doctor or the accident victim was divorced and had remarried. Discuss.
Alex Jones must have read the books because half of his rants from 10 years ago sound like he's describing the plot angrily.
They're interdimensional demons
Just watch the original chinese version, it's one of the most based things I've seen in a long time. Doesn't make up bullshit just tells the original story and has some really interesting characters. It doesn't waste hours on interpersonal drama it just tells the story and lets you figure it out as you go along. The only downside is some poor cgi in VR scenes and the translation is a bit rough but they are minor issues compared to the nigflix trainwreck.
>The only downside is some poor cgi in VR scenes
considering how hilarious it looks, it's almost an upside.
It really didn't bother me but I know most people under 30 graphics is the only thing they care about.
>poor cgi in VR scenes
It's supposed to be a vidya in 2007, it was more than appropriate.
The chinese version might not be woke, but the direction Is dogshit snooze AND that it's in this case way worse
>in this case way worse
Absolutely fricking not. Beyond the woke bullshit tis netflix trash is a fricking insult to intelligence.
Sorry zoom zoom, it's not your fault social media has destroyed your attention span. Good news is there's plenty else on netflix more your speed.
Da Shi was great in the Chinese series. They cast him well
I’m going to watch the first episode tonight if episode 2 of Shogun doesn’t draw me in enough to start marathoning it.
Those lips have some immense suction power. Wish i could have as my sex slave when the aliens take over.
One of the most dis-likable characters in while. Every second she's on screen you're given a reason to switch it off.
Even the black boyfriend gets put in his place.
It's fine for women to hit men, haven't you heard?
Wang Miao is a hot chick in the US version?
I'm watching it and am coninced that it was made for 'cool moments', but watching a yt about the books would be a better use of my time than finishing this.
I fricking hate like 95% of Sci-Fi cause it spends most of its time going into lore I don't give a shit about. Is this any better? I like Philip K. Dick.
My beautiful wife Tatiana 🙂
Wade is so based he makes up for all the woke shit. Wong is pretty good too
Why does Luoji wants to frick Wang Miao? I don't remember this part of the books.
That would unironically had been so bad it would have been good.
>We don't understand
>But we did have breakfast this morning
WHAT Y'ALL SAYIN', A WOMAN CAN'T BE A NEUROLOGIST?
>He said "She"? That's it?
Isn't this a chink novel? Why would you ever willingly subject yourself to chink writing?
Because it's good and you could never write anything that even comes close
if you don't take all the chink propaganda seriously, it's solid scifi
>all the chinese propaganda
the story is literally about a chinese woman who hates the CCP and decides to doom the earth to destruction because of what commies did to her and her family
>BMWF
not watching it
She treats him like crap
Ironically, it's they were paired yo enmasculate him..it's lil nas - Finn boyega tier. The israelites simply want everyone to look like trash
kino
Why is there an old grandma and kids decorations? It's supposed to be some hardened mercs and a few sailors.
they turned it into a community of followers living there. I think it was done this way to make Wade seem ruthless for the future events.
There's no way this sewage is getting a second season.
I mean, it wasn't that much of a big change. Like it doesn't really affect anything from the books.
kys apologist, the entire fricking story is butchered not just that one fricking scene.
trust me, there's a lot to get worked up over the shitty show, but that change isn't one of them. It literally changes nothing.
Isn't it past your bedtime david?
I don't get why you're so butt blasted by it. I'm not saying it's good or that the show is good. The show was a huge disappointment. That change was inconsequential.
If it doesn't matter than why change it?
because the show is clearly working towards the long game. They don't want to introduce new characters in future seasons, so Wade was introduced in the first and they have to establish that he's an butthole willing to kill kids. The whole thing is stupid but to get worked up that they put a community on the boat and cry because it's not like that in the books is bonkers to me.
>It literally changes nothing.
>That change was inconsequential.
Brainlet read this, it changed the entire political subtext
yeah, I get that. But that one scene specifically doesn't change anything. Having the kids and families there doesn't change anything. The show already had ruined the whole ETO story line by then. What specifically do you object to that it wasn't just sailors and mercs?
Well in that sense yes... the ETO story had already been butchered before that scene. In that scene it was just for extra shock value and so blowjoblips can call Wade a fascist and throw a tantrum. This is from the makers of GOT after all.
because they wanted to destroy the entire story of ETO. Turned Evans from a treehugging psychopath eco-terrorist into misguided Alien Pope, and turned Ye Wenjie from dejected and fatalistic "hope humanity can be saved by space bros" into revenge b***h genocide humanity because of commies.
Because China Bad, and ecologists good, or some shit.
>Ye Wenjie from dejected and fatalistic "hope humanity can be saved by space bros"
been a long time since I read the book but I remember her wanting them to come to destroy humanity.
No, she believed humanity needed guidance from a superior civilization. Not getting genocided.
>the show came up with "china bad, ecology good'
tell me you didn't read the books without telling me you didn't read the books
I read them you mongoloid. The book is obviously critical of the cultural revolution but it doesn't criticize contemporary China, if anything the majority of the book plots glorifies a technocratic ruthless government and shits on democracy as weak. However this Netflix slop goes out of its way to shit on everything Chinese because its made by ameriburgers and there's a fricking cold war going on in case you haven't noticed. When this show was first anounced literally everything was about how fricking brave they were for showing the struggle session scene, which was CENSORED in china!!!1!
Also the TV show didn't want to show an eco-terrorist anti-human sociopath because ecologism is a fricking religion for the Netflix audience and showing it in any potential negative light would be like pandering to rightwingers in their delusional minds. My comment had nothing to do with the way the books treat the subject.
Now frick off.
>if anything the majority of the book plots glorifies a technocratic ruthless government and shits on democracy as weak
yes anon that's what happens when a race of superior aliens are on the way to exterminate us. you're not wasting time holding elections when it's doomsday. ruthless authoritarianism is the only option in that scenario
I thought it's alright. At first I was fuming how they split one character into four, but they did a good job of joining/blending arcs and characters. Same with taking from World's End into first season for the grand surprise if they ever get a third season, or maybe they'll cram two books into one. What I don't get is how did this cost 300m when it's onwards when crazy space shit happens that'll need expensive sets and/or cgi, while here there was only the ship, sophon assembly, fleet start and I guess VR. It's probably going to die here because I doubt they'll get more cash.
>but they did a good job of joining/blending arcs and characters.
literally the worst part. I don't like how this small circle of friends will now pretty much be present at all of humanity's biggest and final events.
People were always the weakest part of the series, and with the hibernation shit it was even worse. I don't mind them taking this route of black Sheldon and crew being eased out to the audience. It's not like I remember most of the chink characters names.
it's one thing to introduce the characters early, it's another to make them all close friends.
In the books there already grows a group of hibernating friends. I'm letting this slide for tv hook magic. If there's something to b***h about it's the fat nerd guy who only exists to say frick and holy frick and then die and pass money to friend. Flying head might have as well been rich from get go.
>It's probably going to die here because I doubt they'll get more cash.
I sure hope so, this insult to intelligence is already bad enough
The copium got another one.
Haven't read any of the threads including this one. Only 4 eps in. I've also never read the books. My $0.02...
It's a phenomenal sci-fi by Netflix standards, but that qualifier matters. The CGI is so cheaply done it hurts this show, and I'm not someone who typically cares about lesser quality CGI. It really does hurt this show tho. Also, knowing nothing about the book, I hate that all the chars are 420 BLAZE IT gayIT chars. The world's foremost physicists aren't like this, and while accurately portraying would make for a boring show, there has to be a comfy median.
7/10 I like it but why did Netflix cheap out on the CGI so hard?
>accurately portraying would make for a boring show
It didn't, watch the chinese version.
movie or show? by the same name? i'd like to torrent it. didn't even know there was one, just that there's a chinese sci-fi novel.
show. I think it's called 3 body. I couldn't get past a couple of episodes, it's really dry.
The whole thing is on youtube, but you can find it on any torrent site as well. It's just called 3 body. If you need "drama" and GRAPHICS to be engaged don't bother. It's a slow story about smart people having conversations about science trying to figure things out.
But it's a thousand times better than any western slop to come out in the last 5 years. Great characters and people actually acting like real human beings instead of walking quip machines.
pozzed troony shit right?
YASSS SLAY
I think it was decent. Obviously has a lot of cringe Netflixisms (diversifying the cast, "strong women", needless insertions of modern politics), but I think many of the other changes were perfectly fine--even good.
Making Thomas Wade a much more prominent character was great. Making all the main characters a group of friends--maybe a bit implausible, but it enables a lot of nice scenes and lets them use dialogue to tell the story. A truly faithful adaption here would have pretty much none of the main characters talking to one another. Bringing forward some Dark Forest/Death's End plotlines was also totally fine, I think the show had very good pacing.
The only big mistake was making Augustina so fricking horrible. God, she's a braindead obnoxious moralist in every scene. Absolutely horrible.
Dark Forest could make a good 2nd season but Death's End is pretty much unfilmable. The Doomsday battle would be great if Netflix greenlights it
How did China go from left to right in a single decade?
>How did China go from left to right in a single decade?
Capitalist roaders / revisionists took over
Reminder Dark Forest theory debunked bullshit.
How is it debunked?
>How is it debunked?
Putting human mindset/thinking on that of aliens. Doesn't factor in vastness of space or civilizations dying out due to x, y, z. It's literally cope for the Fermi paradox
But all of that is addressed?
>But all of that is addressed?
No, you missed the asteroid part?
I think I did, please explain.
There is an asteroid that was sent to the aliens, but it's not traveling at LS meaning there is zero chance, ZERO it will make it there in 300 years.
I really don't remember, are you talking about one of the bullshit silly plans humans try during the coming of Trisolarians?
What if it was launched from the ass of a giant artillery Bug?
This doesn't sound like much of a debunking, it just sounds like your opinion!
The problem isn’t projecting human values, it’s assuming technological explosion and subsequent scarcity of resources. There’s no current suggestion that miracles like strong force manipulation, space warping, or dimensional compression are possible, and travel will probably be limited by the speed of light between very distant solar systems. Hence there is very little motivation to attack and destroy all other possible alien civilizations. Game theory suggests that such an aggressive posture would backfire in the long run.
>Game theory suggests that such an aggressive posture would backfire in the long run.
Why? Eliminating players early is a winning strategy where goal is survival.
Because, unless you are one of the very first species, it is unlikely that you will be advanced enough to threaten the others. Attacking everyone at once will lead to your extermination. And if the very first species decided that omnixenocide was best, why are we even here? They’ve had millions if not billions of years to map the entire galaxy.
The most plausible solutions to the Fermi paradox are:
1. Intelligent life is very rare / we are the first.
2. Alien civilizations don’t bother to expand physically.
3. The Prime Directive is real (the silliest one but plausible if you think UFOs are aliens).
And now you're talking from a human point of view, that is a young civilization. Assuming space is millions of years old and that in meantime there were others they could have seen what happens when one solar system tried to expand. It might have been interstellar nukes, dogfights in orbits, subjugation on land, many losses, comebacks, pleas, truces, betrayals. Ultimately they decided to just frick it and nuke you if you even start to pose a threat. It makes even more sense in the dimension shattering tech because far away civilizations could have had their own galaxy wide wars and end up with same idea. If you want to go out and say "Hey we're not that bad!" you get blasted because frick you we've heard that before.
Debunked
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9sw5gwYGo3U
>it doesn't matter
>its already ruined
>its bad trust me goy
>also I'm going to vehemently defend it while at the same time claim it doesn't matter
Don't waste your time arguing with gods chosen people, they will twist their words just like the snake they were born from.
Wade should be like 30 years younger
You don't think a woman can be a Neurologist?
I have a family member with spastic severe cerebral palsy and her Neurologist was a woman and this was in 1989.
This seemed a complete normal thing to me.
Why is every other sentence a curse word? They are talking about something mundane but they gotta throw a "frick" in there for no reason.
Because they FRICKING LOVE SCIENCE. That's how science is done, frick!
frickety fricking frick, If I say frick some more does it make what I am saying more impactful?
I'm like 3/4 of the way through book1 and im a little burnt out by it
i hear book 2 is the real kino, am I missing much by just reading the wiki and moving to book 2
YOU ARE BUGS
now move on to The Kino Forest
Book 1 is critical for Book 2.
Book 2 works as an ending to the series. Book 3 is okay but it gets away from itself. The characters have zero agency and everything happens around them by them literally doing nothing.
why is everyone acting like the books are a masterpiece? the trilogy had really cool ideas and concepts, but the characters were so shit and the character decisions make no sense half the time.
It's one of thos niche nerd books that people praise inside their bubble, not praising it means you are NPC
yikes hit a nerve here aye?
didn't even try to dispute that the characters are shit lmao
you have to be an adult to appreciate it, which you clearly aren't
see
doesn't make sense, book characters are autistic as frick
OMFG did character A correct charcter B when they were having a discussion!! OMFG this is teh end of the world!!! WESTERN CIVILISZATION HAS FALLEN!!!!
I now remembered the trash adaptation of childhood's end. Scifi is a cursed genre for tv
the slicing was pretty intersting but the speed of it all seemed inconsistent, if it matched the camera speed then the people diet to fast, if it was faster then people shouldn't die so quick and easy