>directed by a feminist
>based on a book written by a bisexual man
Umm chuds? I don't know how to feel about it... Why is this our favourite movie when a hecking roastie made it? Patrick Bateman is supposed to be cool right? Its not about toxic masculinity or something like that right chud bros?
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Stop pretending to be something you're not.
also Screenplay was by a lesbian
bret easton ellis pretends to be a gay to hide his power levels. Nobody can read less than zero as anything but a hatred for gay degeneracy
>Leftshit hates other leftshits
On brand
i listened to a couple of his podcast -c. 2016- and he only talked about how wokeness was destroying society. didn't sound very lefty to me
I know several lefties who despise woke. Woke isn't left per se, it's an anti-white movement.
It's anti-liberal at its core - a rejection of enlightenment values, in favor of power relationship analysis. Ultimately it's anti-democratic, anti-equality, and anti-science. Applied to USA and Europe, it means hating whites since they are the dominant power.
I'm not that eloquent. Agree with you.
Yeah chuds like you always get the right message from media for sure just like with american psycho and fight club. All these Gay leftists must be secret chuds.
>Yeah chuds like you always get the right message from media for sure
This but unironically.
>t. mentally ill freak
Easton Ellis is openly right wing lol
Easton Ellis literally said the movie is not good and women are incapable of being good directors because they don’t have the eye for it
Did he actually? This was my impression, too. In fact, the whole reason I even got into Ellis was because I watched the film and felt sort of betrayed by the hype around it. Book was much better.
>bret easton ellis pretends to be a gay to hide his power levels
He doesn't pretend he's a full blown gay
in denial chud.
BEE is gay as shit, if you hear him in any interview he's a self hating gay homo. if anything, less than zero is just more proof of him being gay as shit since so much of it is based off his own life as a nasty trust fund kid
I didn't "get" it.
It's just a movie about a man who acts like a woman and how he'd be seen as a psycho for behaving how a billion women do.
It's only a movie!
Based on a fictional book.
Stop acting moronic.
Nothing is worth it
Conservatives cant make good art and lack media literacy so they latch on media that criticize them, or media critical of capitalism(Matrix, They live)
These are false-flag bait posts.
More false flags. Ghost writers and directors are common. There was a HUGE moral panic about violence in media at the time, and the idea of turning this sick twisted book that glorified a serial killer into a film was offensive. It is possible she wasn't a ghost director, but her not making kino before or since is interesting. It's possible the films look was more due to the cinematographer.
Yeah, Bateman is a lizardman narcissist. he has no idea how to act and just seeks acceptance from others and copies what they do. He's a shallow loser.
It's hard to stress at the time how much of a moral panic about films and violence there was.
I find him to be very human personally
The way he's portrayed makes him out to be a victim of circumstances rather than inherently sick
He's definitely sick with some kind of affliction, namely a cluster-b personality disorder. He's juts a hollow husk. But rather than getting some help, he's just this lizard-man trying to blend in among these other shallow idiots. The satire element is that among Wall Street execs they can't spot a psychopathic killer because they're all shallow narcciistic people lacking empathy to begin with.
by a feminist
This is a bit sus, since she hasn't done anything quite as good before or since so she was likely the ghost director. There was a bit of a moral panic about the book in the 90's after it was found out that serial killer Paul Bernardo owned a copy.
All of this is completely forgotten about now, since we know what the subject and themes of the film are about now, but at the time it was viewed as a sadistic book glorifying violence against women. Thus it would make sense to hire a woman to act as the ghost director to take the heat off.
>resorts to schizo conspiracy theories
chuddy pls...
>perhaps the most gruesome crime novel ever written
I read it, it wasnt that gruesome. Felt the same with Blood Meridian. Are most people that oversensitive to portrayals of violence or is something wrong with me?
Books a lot more graphic, think The House That Jack Built levels of torture. And yes there’s something wrong with us, and everyone else on this board.
But I read the book. Sure some of the murder scenes were "graphic" but idk how it could cause much outrage or be seen as THAT bad.
I know this will sound crazy, but back in the 80s and early 90s all the moral outrage came from conservative types who thought dungeons and drgaons made kids kill themselves and serial killers were created by acdc songs.
Somehow, they were still more sane and reasonable than today's woke mobs.
Bateman tells you himself that he's about to break down into tears because he's worried that he won't be able to get a table
It's pretty clear that he isn't a cool guy
>directed by a feminist
>based on a book written by a bisexual man
...and?
>Umm chuds? I don't know how to feel about it... Why is this our favourite movie when a hecking roastie made it?
Do you really need a bunch of anonymous internet imageboard users to tell you how to think?
>Own it, snowflakes: you've lost everything you claim to hold dear.
>White is Bret Easton Ellis's first work of nonfiction. Already the bad boy of American literature, from Less Than Zero to American Psycho, Ellis has also earned the wrath of right-thinking people everywhere with his provocations on social media, and here he escalates his admonishment of received truths as expressed by today's version of "the left."
>Eschewing convention, he embraces views that will make many in literary and media communities cringe, as he takes aim at the relentless anti-Trump fixation, coastal elites, corporate censorship, Hollywood, identity politics, Generation Wuss, "woke" cultural watchdogs, the obfuscation of ideals once both cherished and clear, and the fugue state of American democracy. In a young century marked by hysterical correctness and obsessive fervency on both sides of an aisle that's taken on the scale of the Grand Canyon, White is a clarion call for freedom of speech and artistic freedom.
He doesn't sound very leftist to me
Twisted transistors...I thought gay men were supposed to be fellow political commissars
HE'S A CHUD?!?!
lmao
>Author Bret Easton Ellis caused a firestorm of criticism on Twitter when he tweeted: 'I like the idea of "Glee" but why is it that every time I watch an episode I feel like I've stepped into a puddle of HIV?'
>Mr Ellis followed that up with another tweet five hours later defending his comment: 'No, I wasn't drunk last night. I was watching Chris Colfer singing, um, "Le Jazz Hot" and felt like I had suddenly come down with the hivs.'
he's a great poster. makes me wonder what older authors would say if they had twitter
Not all movies are propaganda reflecting some marginalized folks' bland ideology.
youtube essay gays and redditors getting their panties in a bunch over interpreting patrick bateman sigma memes as serious and right wing will never not be amusing to me
>youtube essay gays and redditors getting their panties in a bunch over interpreting patrick bateman sigma memes as serious and right wing will never not be amusing to me
The only thing is that Cinemaphile starts a bunch of ironic memes which idiots on the internet take seriously at face value. First we start mocking the shit out of the prequels but then reddit embraces these jokes and creates /r/prequelmemes/. Then for American Psycho, Bateman is such a god damn lunatic it's impossible to NOT revel in him and Bale's performance. But we know he's a loony tunes weirdo. Then the rest of the net takes our jokes at face value because they're dumb.
reddit (the wider internet) takes everything from here and misinterprets it and runs it into the ground
Politics rotted your brain. It doesn't fricking matter who made it. What matters is the content of the movie itself.
>Its not about toxic masculinity
Note. Bateman is extremely feminine.
Christian Bale is the only reason why everyone loves this movie. And Bale is based
The book was inspired by Bret's hatred (and envy) of yuppies, it literally beats you over the head with how shallow and awful and inhuman these people are.
People relate with Bateman because some people feel adrift in life and that their emotions aren't as real as others, that their entire being is performative in order to *fit in*.
The materialism and narcissism is another surface level aspect that appeals to dumber people, the Logan Paul and Saudi life style types.
The author didn't have this in mind while writing.
I don't think it's even that deep. Bateman is handsome, rich, muscular, and seems to have "made it". People want to be like that because it's a nice fantasy. The violence just shows he's an "Alpha" macho male who can dominate others. it's a metaphor for the dominant successful executive type. They figuratively "kill" and brutalize others.
It's a bit like hood homies emulating Scarface because they see Tony Montana as a figure of aspiration when he's kind of a dumb hood fool.
Yes that's the surface level attraction I touched on, who wouldn't want to be rich and good looking and seemingly powerful.
If you watched the movie or read the book you'd know Bateman isn't having a good time and he has something resembling some self awareness as he laments his fate and lack of substance.
Meanwhile in reality... the real life American Psycho.
“…there is an idea of a Patrick Bateman, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable: I simply am not there. It is hard for me to make sense on any given level. Myself is fabricated, an aberration. I am a noncontingent human being. My personality is sketchy and unformed, my heartlessness goes deep and is persistent. My conscience, my pity, my hopes disappeared a long time ago (probably at Harvard) if they ever did exist. There are no more barriers to cross. All I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused and my utter indifference toward it, I have now surpassed. I still, though, hold on to one single bleak truth: no one is safe, nothing is redeemed. Yet I am blameless. Each model of human behavior must be assumed to have some validity. Is evil something you are? Or is it something you do? My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape. But even after admitting this—and I have countless times, in just about every act I’ve committed—and coming face-to-face with these truths, there is no catharsis. I gain no deeper knowledge about myself, no new understanding can be extracted from my telling. There has been no reason for me to tell you any of this. This confession has meant nothing….”
“Where there was nature and earth, life and water, I saw a desert landscape that was unending, resembling some sort of crater, so devoid of reason and light and spirit that the mind could not grasp it on any sort of conscious level and if you came close the mind would reel backward, unable to take it in. It was a vision so clear and real and vital to me that in its purity it was almost abstract. This was what I could understand, this was how I lived my life, what I constructed my movement around, how I dealt with the tangible. This was the geography around which my reality revolved: it did not occur to me, ever, that people were good or that a man was capable of change or that the world could be a better place through one’s own taking pleasure in a feeling or a look or a gesture, of receiving another person’s love or kindness. Nothing was affirmative, the term “generosity of spirit” applied to nothing, was a cliche, was some kind of bad joke. Sex is mathematics. Individuality no longer an issue. What does intelligence signify? Define reason. Desire- meaningless. Intellect is not a cure. Justice is dead. Fear, recrimination, innocence, sympathy, guilt, waste, failure, grief, were things, emotions, that no one really felt anymore. Reflection is useless, the world is senseless. Evil is its only permanence. God is not alive. Love cannot be trusted. Surface, surface, surface, was all that anyone found meaning in…this was civilization as I saw it, colossal and jagged…”
>I saw Bono from U2 and I creamed my Calvin Klein boxer shorts. Then I fantasised about murdering a homeless man to compensate for being a self loathing gay
- the entirety of American Psycho, tl;dr'd
The controversy at the time seems overblown, and it makes me sympathetic of simpler times.
Feminists hated the book and saw it as a how to guide to murder women and tried to get it banned.
The film got so much flack from feminists they decided to tone down the violence, and to hire a feminist leaning director as well.