>directors suck after ten movies
Can you prove him wrong?
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>directors suck after ten movies
>directors suck after ten movies
Can you prove him wrong?
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Zack Snyder sucked almost immediately
Nah the Dawn of the Dead remake is great. It's just everything after that sucked
wrong, watchmen is fantastic
Watchmen was dogshit. 300 is the only kino Snyder ever directed.
although he might be the exception that proves the rule
Goodfellas was like his 12th film but I’m sure Tarantino has a terrible opinion that everything after Goodfellas sucks
He's still making great stuff even now. Man's a goddamn film-making machine
>released one of the most evil characters of all time in Flower Moon
>terrible
I hope Tarantino doesn' tthink so
He usually doesn’t talk about Scorsese anymore. Scorsese never really says anything about Tarantino either besides that they’re very different filmmakers
Flower Moon feels like something Tarantino would enjoy, but what do I know
Scorsese made The Departed in 2006 and that's a perfect movie. Man still has it and even Tarantino would recognize.
>moron has never heard of Casino, The Departed, Wolf of Wall Street, Silence, The Irishman and Killers of Flower Moon
this point buckbreaks the tarantino
he's just being lazy
Did you misunderstand me or something? I was saying that Tarantino probably thinks all of those suck. Have you ever heard him talk about movies?
Didn't he just rip off some movies point black?
or was that infernal affairs verbatim remake just some wild fever dream I had while living in Asia?
Point blank I meant but I guess point black would be blackifying them? I could see him doing that too, but his favourite actors would have to blackface so maybe not.
Maybe that was the fever dream...
Well it's a remake, it's not like they claimed otherwise. And besides the script-writer had seen it but Scorsese himself purposefully avoided watching the original until he'd finished making The Departed, so he wouldn't be influenced by it and end up ripping off the directorial choices. It's very different from an actual rip-off (Yojimbo and Fistful of Dollars comes to mind, and they're both GREAT movies)
Oh wow, thanks for the informative post.
I didn't know about that claim that Scor avoided watching it but the script writer did.
That paints a lot more questions now like how closely he stuck to the script when shooting and just WHY THE FRICK EVERYTHING ELSE EXISTED lmao but I guess I get it, gotta make it different, more Americanised.
but frick, yeah I can see how that set of circumstances could lead to that.
A little hard to appreciate as an IA simp but fair enough, credit where it's due if he genuinely didn't see it. That's a very interesting set of events.
Now, about that oldboiiiiiiiiii film..
Honestly I still haven't seen Infernal Affairs, I really should. I've loved Tony Leung in everything I've him in so far, I generally love Hong Kong movies and I really liked The Departed so I have no idea why I haven't seen it yet
It's a good enough flick, one of my personal HK favs but it's my fav for leung & chau sang wong.
The movie is hard carried by Leung & an ambitious director. The other films in the trilogy are just lmaoooo. If you've seen the departed idk, might ruin it a bit but might leave you pleasently surprised at how hands on & off it can be without the fluff.
I'll check it out sometime, thanks anon
smiley smug manlet israelite
he actually makes 6/10 mini-series now, disguised as epic-long movies
Silence was good, but iirc that was a project he was working on for decades
SHIT SHIT SHIT YOU ARE REMINDING ME
DIDN'T HE MAKE A FRICKING GEORGE HARRISON REVIEW THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE KILLER?
I couldn't find a torrent at the time and missed out, couldn't afford it.
I love George to bits and would have loved to watch it, I'm hoping it's around somewhere now. Also apparently he was EP on a late 80's gabriel tour. I'd love to know his involvement in that project since Gabriels tour footage & recording at that time was stellar!
No Country For Old Men is number 12. Tarantino thought that sucked though. Probably never watched A Serious Man but they’ve had a few good ones after 10
He is just obsessed with the idea of coming up with 10 great ideas and go out on top to avoid muddying his filmography.
>go out on top to avoid muddying his filmography.
This. He's trying to avoid sucking as he ages. Brian De Palma's one of his heroes and is still making films but they're nowhere near Blow Out quality and barely anyone gives a shit anymore
De Palma still does movies? Wow he must be really bored or hurting for money
Last one he did in 2019 and went straight to VOD
Guess he should have stopped at Django.
Kurosawa made Rashomon, Seven Samurai, and Ran after 10 movies.
>hackerino BTFO'd once again
i think it's much harder for writers to have more than 10 good ideas though. directors just need good material to work with.
Jurassic Park was Spielberg's 16th movie
Why'd he move to Israel? Is he going to make more movies?
Why all know why: Israeli feet
Yeah, Tarantino sucked before he'd done any!
DOOOOOOOOO HO HO HO
nice.
Tenet 11th, Oppenheimer 12th.
To be fair Tenet wasn't very good, but Oppenheimer was great and a return to form
Tenet is Nolan's second best movie.
You two should go on a date sometime
>To be fair Tenet wasn't very good
Understatement of the century. Tenet was literally insufferable. It was so bad that it's actually a litmus test for moronation. As in if someone likes it, it actually proves they are likely below 100 IQ.
>Black person lead
>he has no name
>time travel out wait not really
Passed on it after watching the trailer for 30 seconds. I didn't give Oppenheimer a chance because of the gratuitous sex and the fact that Hollywood hasn't put a good film in years.
If the movie ended at the 90 minute mark, it would have been great. There's a whole nother hour of movie after this that's painfully predictible. Except the ending, I didn't think the ending would be so stupid as to have a forward and backward army for no good reason other than some neat visuals.
Get fricked. Oppenheimer is pretentious dull slop. Some of the dialogue is eye rolling bad and it doesn't really make use of its long runtime in any meaningful way.
I liked Tenet more than Oppy tbqh.
>To be fair Tenet wasn't very good
Tenet was arguably dragged down by the charisma and talent vacuum that was Branagh who has recently been cursed with only starring in the worst shit, of all time, without refute.
Patty was good in it tho, same for the beak!
>Ridley has directed more than 50 films
>That's not a very good rate.
Yeah, he really is such an up and down director. Everyone has a favourite Scott film or two, a favourite niche of his even if it's a weaker one dragged down with shit acting like Black Rain.]
Someone's gotta like his miss movies right?
I mean I get it. I'm a contrarian since I like matchstick men and the like and I don't hate prometheus. Surely there's people out there dying for Robin Hood and Kingdom of Heaven and the like. People who are excited for a tasty inaccurate biopic. Not sure who but there's definitely an audience right?
Both are shit.
He sucked after one.
Literally any Old Hollywood director like John Ford or Cecil DeMile proves him wrong
He sucked after his first three. So I think his theory is flawed. At least in his case. I actually think truly great directors have only about 6 or 7 great ones in them. Usually they get a couple bland movies out of the way to establish and refine their style. Then they go on a tear and shit out like 6 or 7 classics over a 10-15 year period. Then it's all downhill from there.
>He sucked after his first three
I dunno, I really liked Once Upon A Time In Hollywood and Inglorious Basterds. I was willing to write him off during that whole post-Kill Bill, Grindhouse/Death Proof era but I think that turned out to be just a short phase in his career
His movies are perfectly enjoyable. But they don't compare to his first three. Steep drop off after Jackie Brown. He got so much creative autonomy that his autism took over and there was no one to reign him in. His movies are all a hot mess now with meme dialog and awful structural problems.
OUATIH can be excused as 1 long nostalgic daydream. His regular editor died after Inglorious.
Respectfully disagree. I thought the two I mentioned are up there with his 90s work. And while I didn't love Django or Hateful 8 they were perfectly good movies. I think he's still got it and I respect the fact that he wants to go out on a high note before he starts phoning it in
How old are you? Let me guess, under 30? If so, give it another 10-15 years and your opinions will change.
Both are shit though, and you opinion on the matter is irrelevant.
Technically his buddy PTA is doing his 10th movie this year too. Pretty crazy they both are matched with the amount of movies
its because theres no more toes after 10
jej
Tarantino has terrible taste so I wouldn’t be surprised if he honestly believed most directors really suck after 10
Ingmar Bergman
John Ford
Jean Luc Godard
Akira Kurosawa
Charlie Chaplin
Alfred Hitchwiener
>Alfred Hitchwiener
This one is wild to me when you compare Tarantino to him. Hitchwiener did sooooo many movies. So, you kind of have to push the quantity aside, so look at age. At around 60 Hitchwiener made his BEST movies. Vertigo, North by Northwest, Psycho and The Birds. 4 great movies, one after another. Tarantino is about 60 and wants to quit. Tarantino is too meta and needs stop worrying about his "legacy" and just keep doing what he does.
>"I didn't go to film school, I went to the movies."
>All the movies he watched were grindhouse schlock.
>His entire career is repurposing scenes from better movies into a pop culture frame, plays it off by saying, "I'm a hip hop director, I remix movies."
>made a single, actually good movie
>is a foot gay who injects his fetish into his movies
Why do people worship this fraud?
>made a single, actually good movie
Which one?
The Hateful Eight.
Everything you described aren't flaws, they're qualities.
once upon a time in hollywood is the best movie ever made so i dont care
>outing yourself as a zoomer
Tarantino, Nolan and PTA are the pinnacle of midwit directors
>All the movies he watched were grindhouse schlock.
that's based
Because their masters in the media tell them too, those same masters who rape kids with tarantino.
Kill Bill was when I realized what a hack/fraud he was, having seen most of the stuff he quoted. But the perf he got out of Carradine was like Charles Bronson directed Bergman. Full of mystery and a bitter life lived. Hateful 8 and Django have serious pacing issues.
>Can you prove him wrong?
It‘s…harder to find directors that rule actually applies to. If a director falls off it usually happens way before movie #10 or way after when they’re nearing the end.
Do people actually think this? The Hateful Eight and OUATIH are his best work imo.
Reservoir dogs is kino and has the best soundtrack. First big movie for a lot of A listers too.
Jackie Brown is garbage outside of the opening scene.
Pulp Fiction is overrated and has aged poorly but launched, relaunched, or saved the careers of most of the cast.
Inglorious Basterds is trash outside of the German characters/scenes
I've never finished Deathproof but I probably should because Kurt Russell, and the lap dance scene.
Planet Terror was funny and enjoyable but I'd never watch it again.
True Romance wasn't his movie but he did some work on the script and it feels like his movie and it's pretty good. SLJ first big movie.
Django had some good scenes but was largely silly outside of Candy
Kill Bill 1 was great
Kill Bill 2 was too long
I'm sure I left some stuff out but it's funny that I grew up watching all his stuff and think his most recent work is the best. OUATIH was a great love letter to the era and I liked they gave Sharon Tate and her killers a proper ending.
The Hateful Eight is a completely different movie the second time you watch it. You notice all these little signs and indicators that were innocuous before.
This is an interesting, albeit moronic, take.
Post your five favorite movies.
You called Kill Bill vol. 2 too long, I have nothing to prove to your feeble mind
Incredibly plebbit
>and I liked they gave Sharon Tate and her killers a proper ending.
what a disgusting thing to say. Tate’s stpry deserves to be told. How she was horrifically abused by polanski and how his video tapes of the abuse were taken by the police to protect him.
>video tapes
>in 1969
Frickin' moron
You know what I fricking meant. Reels of Polanski making tate be gangraped by Black folk.
>The Hateful Eight and OUATIH are his best work imo.
Then you must have a very poor opinion of the rest of his pictures, those are total garbage. You should have a nice day
>I liked they gave Sharon Tate and her killers a proper ending
What a disgusting thing to say. There's nothing proper about writing fanfiction about how he would've Captain Save a Hoe'd some bawd who was murdered decades ago. It's gross
>Jackie Brown is garbage outside of the opening scene.
It grows on you with rewatches, moreso than a lot of his others.
>Jackie Brown is garbage outside of the opening scene.
>t. mental zoomer
Battle Royale, one of Quentin Tarantino's top 10 films of all time, was Kinji Fukusaku's SIXTY-SECOND FILM. Hollywood directors are all lazy hacks compared to the average Yakuza director.
I don't think it has to do with age or number, I think it's more the creative aspect. You look at a prolific director like Spielberg who's got a similar count, he stopped making movies back in the 80s and basically kept rehashing the same plot points and emotional beats but would seem fresh because he always switched it up between a fun movie and a serious movie. Of course any and all effort he had died in the 2010s, at least in the 00s he still had some decent flicks
You're absolutely right, I just think it's funny to see le 10 movie man heap praise on a director who was known for churning out several movies a year in the 70's. I also wonder what insane logistics are going on in Hollywood that make movies take several years to produce when you've got guys like Takashi Miike still doing that over in Japan land.
Different discipline and work ethic, movies here have bloated budgets so everyone takes a fat check home but then they measure its success by whether or not it turns a profit, meanwhile in Europe and Asia they measure success by tickets sold and cultural impact.
>Takashi Miike
Yeah, but hes not the type to stick to a style.
>having this shit of a movie as one of your 10 of all time
kek.
well it's quentin tarantula what did you expect
Fukusaku was an employee of Toei studio for almost 30 years. They used to work up from assistant director.
he sucked after 3
His first two movies and his last were great, the rest suck and can be discarded. If you disagree then you probably think There Will Be Blood was a good movie.
what the frick does There Will Be Blood have to do with anything? just looking for (You)s?
Kubrick did 18.
Can almost guarantee that Tarantino has some edgy opinions on Full Metal Jacket and The Shining. Not even including Eyes Wide Shut
He's said that he thinks Kubrick is overrated and envisions the two of them as having a "sibling rivalry." I love both directors but Quentin is definitely a dweeb like Refn with his obsession over stature in the "canon".
Full Metal Jacket is fairly shit I thought people accepted this
He sucked after one.
>making less than ten pictures a year
"Artists" suck fat dick
Its insane woo is still making movies
Hateful Eight fricking sucked. What was with that 20 minute flashback sequence when we literally knew what was already going to happen? Tough to create tension with that
If you're referring to the big black dingus, yeah the whole point was SLJ giving himself a legitimate reason to kill that old geezer. The question and tension building was whether or not the old man would wait to hear the whole story or freak out and pull his gun sooner. Also it's not his best film but it his his best shot film, the cinematography is top-tier.
I liked it very different format a western house of horrors
cozy cabbin
period peace
murder mystery
gratuitous moments throughout
macarbe humour
cathartic end
morally black cast
itsa reverse murder mystery were director murders all cast lol pretendin to be a real murder mystery entire premise is kino as frick
Why do you type like Black folk talk?
brain rot and ease you?
I was referring to the scene where they took over the cabin. We can safely assume they murdered all of the people, yet Tarantino draws it out like it's supposed to be suspenseful when they just end up easily shooting them all with zero issue.
I feel like he learned that redditors came in their pants to the intro to Inglorious Bastards and has tried to do that in every movie ever since. The one in Once Upon A Time at the Manson ranch didn't work for me either
nicest part about once was it was made to feel warm optimistic fun
it seemed like a beautiful place to live
Child toe sucking biden voter. So typical. The party of child abuse.
Michael Bays 10th movie was Pain and Gain...bros he might be onto something here
lucas did 8 full length films
He never said that though. He did say directors' last few movies before they die suck.
How many movies did Michael Mann make
How many movies did Scorsese make
How many movies did de palma make
How many movies did Ron Howard make
How many movies did Michael Bay make
All these guys fell off incredibly hard in the past decade
No Country for Old Men was the Coens 12th movie and it's their best. Nice try, Tarantula.
he didn't like this movie
nope, you are incorrect that people "accepted this"
he sucked after 1 lmao owned
>Ridley's 11th movie
Scott's a fricking rollercoaster ride tho and tell me, lad
be honest now
he loves the slop dun he?
You're looking at 11, but mate. Look at 12.
Hannibal? That butchering of an already bullishly hamfisted follow up?
Black hawk!?
Matschstick men. What the frick was he, how is this even a Scott piece, why does he fricking do this. He's reinventing the fricking wheel man. He's showing us he still has fricking balls.
Kingdom of slop!
A good year! It was a good year!
American slopster! FRICKING YAWN MATE YAWN
BODY OF LESGOFRICKINSLEEPYTIME
THHOOODO
oh, you think he's washed up right? nah frick you mate, prometheus, b-b-b-b-b-buh it made the awiens fans mad, b-b-b-buh he directed a movie and had a seqwuel!
Yes.
>the counselor
Okay this one we can interject with, was alright, mid tier but not nearly as bad as his post glad slop but not quite matcstick men but this one's tough because it's hard to say how much is mccarthy and how much is scott. It's rough but it's amibitious.
>exodus
>the martian
SLOP!
>alien covenant
I listened to the aliens fans and they were right! so I subcontracted half this movie out to someone else and made an incoherent mess for noevels to fi-
Yes.
>All the money in the world
Passion project, suitably mid but dragged down by marky mark.
>last duel
covenant tier incoherent schizobabble direct- actually wait it's not that bad!
>the gooch FF: the spirits within
It was terrible
>Napoleon
MORE SLOP!
Will Gladiator 2 be pure and utter kino? Can you track the height highs and the lowsy lows of scottster because that man is a fricking walking enigma with no integrity. At times he'll leave you thinking he's a fool, then at times you'll think maybe it's just the collaborators then he fricking slams it home full frickin force and laughs at you.
but really, aliens fans are fricked in the head, he should smithee that one since he barely touched it.
Ridley has directed more than 50 films. 5 are very good. The rest are trash and slop. That's not a very good rate. I mean, Kubrick had like a 70% rate of making kino. Almost 100% if you take out the first few years of his career.
Ridley is a god that I loki worship
>preemothiest is actually good marvel ruined action kino
yus brother
Sidney Lumet takes a diarrhea shit over this rule
>The Offence (18th)
>Dog Day Afternoon (22nd)
>Network (23rd)
>Prince of the City (27th and his magnum opus)
>The Verdict (29th)
>Q&A (36th)
>Before the Devil Knows You're Dead (43rd and final feature film)
uno farto is just a pussy can't admit he's run out of ideas
Manderlay
Antichrist
The House That Jack Built
Tarantino hasn't made a good movie since the 90's.
Stanley Kubrick
Akira Kurosawa
Alfred Hitchock
I broke up with my girlfriend a few months ago and the only thing I miss about her are the footjobs.
Ford after 30+ films before he really got good. George Stevens was a film series director before he started making serious films.
I wasn't even a footgay until I met her. She has soft, tiny feet that did something to me.
Joh Huston also disprove this theory
OMG does she know she's being secretly filmed?
they can't all be bad
I'm gonna def hop in to ask about the lynch one. Inland Empire is there but Straight Story isn't and Dune is sitting there big dicking it? idg what this chart is supposed to represent when I look at that.
If I look over at the panel next to it we get into adaptation territory and hell, even above it let's stop there. Haven't seen the Pynchon adapt, have seen the McCarthy adaptation tho. Why is this in a grid of 9, out of order and what does it represent? Is it a scizoboard or something assembled and scraped off of some hellscape normalhomosexual website?
Those 3 grids alone make no sense at all an require explanation.
Ridley Scott made Gladiator, Black Hawk Down and Kingdom of Heaven post 10
You just naming 3 of his most uninspired films? Coo. I can get behind that bro.
If you think those are his most uninspired I have news for you
Thanks for comfirming my thoughts anon. I always knew I was absolutely right that Scott produced a trio of slop in the middle of his career.
>in the middle of his career.
Wait until you see the later part
my god, what an ugly man. reminds me of one of those things dying for crabby patties on Sponge Bob's first day
All the old golden age studio guys that pumped out shitloads of output prove him wrong.
People like Ford had over 100 films under their belt and were still making kino in the twilight of their careers.
>finishes his career with Once Upon a Time in Hollywood instead of Django Unchained
He proved himself wrong
uno farto @ 3:17
that's not how growth works, you're not in some magical zone at your 5th movie, nor is it a guarantee you're making better films after 10th but exponantial growth is a thing so it is far more reasonable to assume that the more you work on something the better you get at it.