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they're buying disney for their library after everyone has gotten tired of their shit
>few more years
This has been rumored forever. If Disney wants to stop losing money all they have to do is stop losing money.
>but the propaganda is the point
Well it can't be going too well if this is on the table.
disney (and paramount) went down this path because they lost all market control/influence when the internet went mainstream. given the choice between dropping down to lower/mid budget productions targeting specific demographics and megabudget productions targeting "everyone," they chose the latter. they, of course, forgot they actually needed to make movies/shows people wanted to watch.
Disney cannot be put in the same category as Paramount. Paramount is in actual trouble and will be bought in the next few years, for disney this horseshit rumor has been going on for years, they're doing fine - for a company in this industry - and won't be bought any time soon.
WB was the last time anyone is going to buy a Hollywood studio. everyone knows why AT&T sold them so fast, everyone knows why discovery gutted them.
instead of buying a debt ridden company, the struggle of making it solvent again, the struggle of gutting it, the golden parachutes you need to provide, etc, just let them fail and let the auction block separate the shit from the corn for you.
disney and paramount are in the same level of trouble, disney has just been better at pretending. for instance, imagine how disney would be perceived right now if their only "bankable" franchise was star wars.
Disney has a deep well of nostalgia they can draw from, which paramount does not. As long as they hold the IP rights to the classic films and characters it would be very hard to see them ever truly be "in trouble". They may not expand the way they want to but they're literally too big to fail.
so paramount is still trying to pull from the star trek nostalgia well, the problem is they've completely poisoned the brand, and no one is interested.
disney has also poisoned their brand.
What kills me about Paramount is their refusal to give it up. For many years fans have provided A LOT of constructive negative feedback they could have used to course correct, and the fans would have loved them for this. But, no. All they do is continue to churn out crap, lie about their popularity, attack the fans for bigotry or whatever, and police forums and comment sections. During the TOS movie run and TNG’s debut, there was an EXPLOSION of merchandise. When memes became a thing you’d see older Trek franchises used and are still used today. But with this new shit? No merch and no memes.
Because Star Trek is one of the few brands worth a damn that they have left
>their refusal to give up
that's all due to corporate culture, "giving up" or "course correcting" would be admitting fault.
>Disney has a deep well of nostalgia they can draw from
dont you see the reality? they have been drawing from it for a couple of years now and they are almost out of IPs to milk for it
the well is drying up
Can any of the morons that really think Disney is going to be bought, or seeking to be bought, explain how this same company has one of the highest profit margin in entertainment. No one could even come close, not even Netflix.
Except they are not, disney has huge stream of revenue outside content and even for its content the losses are overblown, like Pixar still allows itself to employ american artist (which explain why disney animations budget are through the roof) because they can afford to.
>disney isn't in trouble! look! their profits have only dropped by two thirds over the last ten years!
lol.
lol.
Disney was in worse shape in the 80s and 60s. Compared to those decades Disney is more than fine right now.
disney had more options in the 60s and 80s than it does right now.
I disagree. Disney is in a much more delicate position. I’m shocked there haven’t been sweeping layoffs, because they’re NOT going to turn loose of their executive paychecks. I was a kid in the 80’s and despite narratives I’ve heard years later of “Disney being in trouble” it didn’t have nearly the impact of today. Not a single day went by in school where there wasn’t some kid wearing a Mickey Mouse t-shirt. There were Mickey Mouse ice cream bars in the cafeteria, and Donald Duck orange juice. Disney coloring books, lunchboxes, backpacks, trapper keepers- you name it. The dream vacation all kids talked about was to go to Disney World. At least once a month there would be some kind of Disney special aired on cable. I don’t see anything like that going on now. Now I suppose they generate revenue from some of these businesses they’ve swallowed up but that’s a corporate conglomerate mentality, and a bad one at that. It would be like Pepsico discontinuing Pepsi products because they own Quaker Oats, Tropicana, etc. Disney as a BRAND is easily in the most trouble it has ever been.
disney was "in trouble" during the 60s because TV was cutting into theaters. disney was "in trouble" in the 80s because cable was cutting into network's viewership. both "troubles" were fixed by simply adapting to the new medium.
right now there is no "new medium" that disney can capitalize upon, as their problem right now is people having nearly limitless options for entertainment.
Disney was in trouble because they were putting out mediocre products during those times. The Disney Renaissance is called what it is for a reason because it was a return to form for the company in terms of content production. TV? Disney had been operating television shows since the 50s. Cable? The Disney channel was a premium cable service around that time
>Disney was in trouble because they were putting out mediocre products during those times
Because they thought they had a captive market and had lost a measure of market control. which they regained by taking TV more seriously and then taking cable seriously.
Disney needs to crawl out of it’s own ass and put boots on the ground to recapture the public’s fascination. Paywalling everything, owning everything, and alienating the public with $5,000 hotel resorts is not going to help things, at all. They need to start putting some merchandise out there, partnering with food companies to put a box of cereal on the breakfast table where kids will see Mickey (or whatever) every morning, and dig into their archives to bring back Disney specials to air on cable. Go big, like bringing back Saturday morning cartoons on cable. Go REALLY big, and create a new traditionally animated feature film lacking even the faintest whiff of propaganda. Something like they did years ago with the animated Beauty and the Beast, or Lion King. This company CAN fix itself; it just doesn’t want to take the glaringly obvious and necessary financial risks to do it.
keeping Iger in charge is keeping them from making any smart decisions. when is that Nelson guy gonna kick Bob's ass out and take over.
Apple has unlimited money, the propaganda will continue no matter what
what good is propaganda that no one watches?
>what good is propaganda that no one watches?
To qualify for ESG score + government loans. If it's not woke enough, they don't get paid.
yes yes, but again, blackrock has money they need to burn every year to avoid taxes, hence the ESG grift. but again, they're funding propaganda that no one watches.
Another bot thread
The shilling never ends
You would know.
So what would Disney buy exaclty?
Disney Classics, the parks and maybe Pixar?
>So what would Disney buy exaclty
moron brain
Would they buy Mickey? Would they buy iPad?
>Mickey get iPad
steve jobs should buy disney thoughbeit
the only people who think anyone is going to buy disney, save disney executives from the financial ruin they've engineered for themselves, is disney executives.
when disney collapses their IP will go up for auction. and then, and only then, will apple own any part of disney.
moron take
I accept your concession.
There isn't a single good reason to acquire the morons who've turned disney into the buttfricked abomination it is today. disney's ip might have some value, maybe, in a few years after the stink has worn off. but no one working at/for/in disney has any value and getting rid of them would cost more than the ip is worth.
You are absolutely moronic. The management is the problem with Disney, not the brand. Start making family friendly kids movies without preachy leftism and homosexualry and clean house on Star Wars and people will be lining up again.
>clean house on Star Wars
Star Wars is an IP for boomers and millenials, it was a mistake to bet so much on it, Zoomers and Alpha-gens don't give a frick.
Oh no you mean only the generations with 95% of the money care about it?
you mean the people with big TVs and physical copies and zero interest in anything disney has done to the brand since they acquired it?
yeah.
TFA is one of the highest grossing films of all time. It won't reach that level again, but a new, non-Disney team that shows that they care about Star Wars can absolutely revitalize the franchise.
TFA grossed well primarily because (of inflation) the stink of the prequels had worn off. then new stink set in.
it will take about the same amount of time for the disney stink to wear off. Meaning star wars, as an IP, is currently worthless.
>Oh no you mean only the generations with 95% of the money care about it?
The boomers and millenials who care about Star Wars are not the top earners, usually don't have kids and only love the IP for nostalgia reasons only (so basically they don't even want new content, they want the same shit over and over again, a new realse of the original trilogy in 12K or whatever). That's not a good audience.
Disney's main target for the best revenue should be kids, and Zoomers and Alphas don't give a frick about israelitebaka the bear and the whole "nazi" imagery of the bad guys they don't even relate too. The whole of Star Wars is based on boomer culture, old fairy tales and WWII.
hey, hey, you know what people want? good movies. you know what disney's star wars movies weren't? Good. you know what mandalorian was for one season? you know what seasons 2, 2.5, and 3 weren't?
Owning the Star Wars franchise right now is like owning the rights for Sinbad in the 1980s or 90s.
Did you care about Sinbad when you were a kid?
Did you want to see sequels of The 7th Voyage of Sinbad? Over and over and have a theme park about Sinbad?
>Did you care about Sinbad when you were a kid?
no
>Did you want to see sequels of The 7th Voyage of Sinbad?
no
>Over and over
no
>and have a theme park about Sinbad?
no
even when i was a kid I cared about the movie being good. everything else was secondary. only morons fell for the "hey this is the same color as good thing that must mean its good too!" bullshit.
I did actually watch the Sinbad animated movie. I didn't give a shit about the IP, but I liked pirates.
Stop pretending that it's impossible to get kids into a sci-fi series with laser swords and spaceships. They just need a good movie, kids haven't lost interest in sci-fi.
don't forget the breasts. had deja thoris been significantly less clothed, john carter would've been a game changer.
>Stop pretending that it's impossible to get kids into a sci-fi series with laser swords and spaceships
Yes but you don't need to own Star Wars for this.
The franchise is even a handicap, because the sci-fi that talks to younger audiences now is things like Guardians of the Galaxy, because it's fun, modern and actually alive, not the same rehashed "universe" and tone that you can't change without upsetting millenials.
>"universe" and tone that you can't change without upsetting millenials
What a lame excuse. Yeah, it's true Star Wars geeks are a little reactionary but acting like the current projects are constrained by the past in some way and that's why they fail is ridiculous. Even within the framework that's already established there's almost infinite possibilities. You can make any sort of planet you want, you can make any kind of crazy alien species that you want, you can tell any kind of story that you want. The problem is that they have no original ideas it's all just bastardizations
>what if a stormtrooper but he was black
>what if the Empire but they're literal Nazis now
>what if the death star but EVEN BIGGER
>what if Luke Skywalker but a girl
And people use TLJ as a kind of "see what happens when they actually try something new" straw man but the problem wasn't that it went in a different direction, it's that it went in a different direction while being a cynical, half-assed deliberately contrarian mess that purposefully wiped its ass with the lore and character just for the sake of muh subverted expectations. We hated it because it was shit written by a hack with nothing to like about it, not because it "dared to be different"
>Did you care about Sinbad when you were a kid?
>Did you want to see sequels of The 7th Voyage of Sinbad? Over and over and have a theme park about Sinbad?
As a matter of fact, yeah. I did. I fricking loved those movies. Had no enthusiasm for an animated version, though. It was all about the harryhausen creatures moreso than Sinbad himself
Star Wars had a really good thing going before the Sequel Trilogy. George's world building in the prequels set up an expanded universe that was thriving through video games, comics, tv shows, etc. All Disney had to do was keep the ball rolling and expand it.
Instead they threw it in the garbage can and changed the whole thing so female journalists would nod in approval and now the brand equity is completely dead.
They shut down Lucasarts immediately which was absolutely moronic
The force is female.
>Lucasarts
No it wasn't. Disney wanted out of the game development business and was more than fine simply outsourcing it to other studios. You don't keep assets you don't want.
just proves how fricking stupid Disney is Lucasarts was making bank in the 90s-00s. why cut of a revenue stream that could of made billions. there have only been a few games made in the last decade no wonder zoomers don't give a frick about starwars.
You don't get it moron. They wanted out of the business. If you already know your heart won't be in the process then you shouldn't keep doing it.
>If you already know your heart won't be in the process then you shouldn't keep doing it.
''our hearts are just not in the making money place right now bro''
are you the biggest spastic moron on this board or what holy shit
>there have only been a few games made in the last decade no wonder zoomers don't give a frick about starwars.
Yeah as a '99 zoomer, Battlefront, Lego Star Wars, Force Awakens, and Republic Commando are what got me into Star Wars. Kids now won't have that and aren't gonna become interested.
>Did you care about Sinbad when you were a kid?
Yes
>Did you want to see sequels of The 7th Voyage of Sinbad?
Yes
>Over and over and have a theme park about Sinbad?
This part I don't care about
>Zoomers and Alpha-gens don't give a frick.
Older zoomers literally grew up with Star Wars
The problem is the lack of good content caused zero new investment
>The management is the problem with Disney, not the brand
buying disney right now means buying the management too. also buying the poison they've corrupted the brands with.
the logic of buying disney while it is weak only holds if disney isn't going to get weaker, which it will, and it will collapse.
the element you're forgetting is apple is part of the collective bargaining firm on the other side of the strikes. so is sony and comcast. apple, sony, and comcast aren't going to be hurt by the strikes going on forever. only disney, paramount, and possibly lionsgate are going to feel any pain here.
Okay, if buying Disney means keeping Iger, KK, and crew then you're right.
the big point is they all have golden parachute contracts. so buying disney means honoring them. also taking responsibility for cleaning house. also acquring all the debt disney has accrued by leveraging their ip.
after warner brothers, no one is going to make the mistake of buying a hollywood studio again.
>Buying Disney means buying management
That's not at all how acquisitions work moron. Management is typically the first to go after an acquisition unless they're extremely good at their job because the buyer typically has their own people they want in those positions instead.
Can you explain what’s family friendly about reactionary bullshit and hate?
Hateful reactionary nazis actually have and raise children while your ilk just rapes them.
Disney is honestly only in the hole they're in now because they bought FOX for 70 bil they didn't have. Iger spent all those billions on a glut of IPs they haven't even used outside of The Simpsons
disney is in the hole they're in now because they thought the entertainment market fractionalizing beyond their ability to draw large audiences wasn't a problem or they could figure ways around it.
there is no problem. disney pays itself billions of dollars every year to inflate production budgets and marketing expenses to make sure they are barely profitable and pay as little tax as possible. only a moron would think they are actually spending 300 million on shit like indiana jones.
>disney is embezzling from itself that means they're perfectly fine
lol
>when disney collapses their IP will go up for auction. and then, and only then, will apple own any part of disney.
The Disney name is more valuable than any of the IP.
Big brain take
good. frick disney
once this happens it will be the best day in Cinemaphile history
sticky thread and celebrations
>megacorps confirmed
im chipping chummerloid
Was this Apples plan all along? Playing the long game?
apple has no interest in buying disney. this is just bullshit disney is trying to "meme-magic" into reality, as it flails desperately in a sea of its own vomit.
It will still be run by israelites and create goyslop so who cares who owns it
An acquisition that big would ruin Apple, they have a different corporate culture that goes back to the Jobs days, Yidsney would eventually poison it
Didn't the same thing happen to Sony when they let ~~*entertainers*~~ inside their company?
anon apple is 20 times larger than disney, and even still they have no interest. AT&T was also about that much larger than WB when they bought WB. they still dropped WB as quickly as possible. Then WB was bought by sharkweekdynasty, and then was COMPLETELY FRICKING GUTTED, to get it out of debt. because WB had been leveraging its IP to stay afloat. just like disney has been.
also reminder that slave leia was a nod to princess of mars
> OP doesn't link.
All OPs died in the womb:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/disney-apple-deal-1235559416/
The usual "Apple has a lot of money, they can buy anything -- so how 'bout this?" zero content article.
It's honestly ridiculous how long this shit has persisted. Apple has been rumored to buy Disney for nearly 20 years now.
the answer, of course, is disney is paying shills to "float" the idea, to get it into the heads of shareholders
That Snow White is way too white.
That doesn't slim the company for Apple.
yey, even more monoply
USA will truly become a cyberpunk shithole
Apple designed the Mac Pro almost specifically for Pixar back in the day. They've always been close. The only thing is I don't think Apple wants frick all to do with the parks.
>next few years
might as well be a century. financial analysts cant predict shit more than 2 or 3 months out
I’m not sure if I’ve ever witnessed more self-destructive business management in my lifetime. Disney went on a franchise spending spree diluting their brand, then destroyed their public image of quality entertainment because they had no idea how to run these franchises. Then, add to that their aggressive LGBTQ+ agenda, AND their pricing normal middle-class families out of their parks. Disney’s older model, which had an intense Mickey/Donald/Goofy(etc.) focus while crafting entertainment to drive park traffic was not only very successful but it pleased the public. If you had told me years ago there would be a day where Disney churned out constant box-office flops, their parks were largely empty save for locals with season passes or foreign tour groups, and most young children had no idea who Mickey Mouse was I wouldn’t have believed you.
I remember a few years ago, people were discussing the possibility of Marvel buying DC. It's amazing how fast Disney fell off.
Marvel could still buy DC but it wouldn't even want to given the sad state of the corpse.
Those include pandemic years, and I'm not saying they are not in "trouble" (whatever that means) but they have among the best position in the industry and their trouble are overblown.
It's like looking at a seeking ship and beeing worried about this one guy who got in the life boat. Yeah he is not fine, but come on.
bruh that's profits from 2013 compared to 2022. it doesn't "include the pandemic years."
shit homie you remove netflix from the bottom and its disney and paramount fighting over a market worth a 20th of what it was ten years ago.
2022 was still a pandemic year as China was closed off, attendance at disney parcs limited and some restrictions still in place keeping operating cost high.
>shit homie you remove netflix from the bottom and its disney and paramount fighting over a market worth a 20th of what it was ten years ago.
Why would you remove netflix? Netflix is the main reason these companies are losing, the entertainment market is getting into streaming.
This is the huge shift that's causing trouble for disney. But even removing netflix you can see disney dominates the industry, in fact it makes more profit than netflix though not as much as it used to.
>as China was closed off
the idea of china being a big entertainment market is very recent, and is simply trading yield for volume, because volume in the US market is no longer attainable.
and you remove netflix because its part of the problem that has put disney/paramount in their current state.
>Netflix is winning
Streaming largely still operates at a loss while cable still operates at a profit. The only streaming service with positive cash flow right now is Crunchy Roll because it has none of the overhead those other services do
>Streaming largely still operates at a loss while cable still operates at a profit.
Netflix has been making a profit for a few years now.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/18/netflix-message-to-shareholders-focus-on-revenue-profit-not-subscriber-adds.html
Netflix losing money is largely a myth.
Crunchyroll is lucrative because they spend as little as possible on everything that isn’t license acquisitions. Their app is an embarrassment. Their dubs are shit because they cast no-names off the street (reminiscent of the 90s dubbing scene). The only reason they aren’t as hated as Funimation because they don’t frick up *as* loudly.
>Apple buys ESPN
Here's how FSU can still get out of the ACC
I just scrolled through Apple looking for something to watch and once you get past all the promotional shit, all the movies are sorted by race instead of genre. What's that about?
>all the movies are sorted by race instead of genre.
That sounds hilarious. Can you post a pic?
All the media companies are in play, Disney, Warner and Paramount. Inflation has boosted the value of their libraries and someone like Apple may want to come in for one of them to boost its Apple tv offering, but you can also see Netflix and Amazon also try and snap them up.
I don't think Netflix has the money for it. Apple could buy it in a snap with their 15+ trillion dollars they have but for anyone else it would be a risk. For Apple it's more like deciding whether or not it's good for their brand rather than anything financial.
Netflix doesn’t seem to have a lot of funds, but they have access to them. It became some kind of weird propaganda arm of the government when Susan Rice stepped in, later onboarding the Obamas, then left them to manage things while she quietly slipped off into Biden’s administration. It’s all tied to Obama’s administration legalizing domestic propaganda in our entertainment industry around 2013. While it’s possible Netflix has access to the resources for a buyout like that I don’t think they have any interest in it.
Apple can afford to pay off their debt, Iger fricked them with the Fox purchase and then digging an even bigger debt hole with Disney+
Marvel is by far the most successful franchise of all time, it made more than the following three COMBINED. All their movies trust the top among biggest box office of all time even their fricking streaming service is the second biggest after netflix (prime video is largely a meme).
But here you have people casually telling you this company is about to be bought because some empty article said Apple made a shit ton of money... why is Cinemaphile so dumb?
the reality is disney is completely inundated with debt, as leveraging their IP was the only way they could stay afloat, and they're not going to be able to repay any of it, same situation WB was in.
That's a myth, disney still make a profit, isn't in debt, this is why they can afford luxuries like putting hundreds of millions in meme shows like secret invasion or hire north american artist, unlike other companies which hire oversea, which explain why disney production cost so much.
>Is there a way to make these kinds of movies at a lower price point?
>That’s a constant question. One of the ways you make these films for less money, and almost all of our competitors do this, is to do work offshore. It’s only us and Disney Animation that makes animation films in the U.S. anymore with all of the artists under one roof. We feel like having a colony of artists approach has differentiated our films. We hope to find a path to make that work. “Elemental” was particularly expensive because all the characters have visual effects. We had been getting the film costs down.
>The other thing I’ll say about our film budgets is that our whole company exists only to make these films. So when we say a budget, that is everything it takes to run the whole company. Sometimes, the budgets [for other films] that get reported are physical production costs and don’t include the salaries of executives and things like that. Our budgets include all of that, so there’s some accounting context that gets lost. But that doesn’t mean they’re not expensive.
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/pixar-elemental-box-office-rebound-1235691248/
If Disney start being in REAL trouble, instead of relative like they aren't doing as good as they used to, it will show through facts and not vague interpretation like we see in this thread.
>isn't in debt
All corporations are in debt. But that's how they function. Corporate debt works different from individual debt. But since we're talking f9nancial trouble, this is absolutely the case with Disney, as we've seen with their layoffs and internal restructuring
you can have debt and still "profit." they aren't mutually exclusive.
Anon you're huffing PR copium like a good shill but Disney is pretty much fricked, Disney+ alone is such a money pit it would kill a much stronger company. Disney is alive because "institutional investors" (aka uncle joe) aren't selling like every other investor would
Disney+ first spending is disney's content, everytime a disney movie is put on the catalog disney+ pays disney thus why it appear as losing money. And even then it probably won't for long.
Damn that's some pathetic cope, okay dude then disney proper loses those hundreds of millions every month and not disney+, whatever you say
No it doesn't since disney overall is making a profit you absolute moron.
>disney overall is making a profit
They're not, but go off.
They are. Learn to read.
Yeah and all those tv shows nobody watches are all free too right? Like Andor had a $200 million budget and literally nobody who was paid by disney to watch it actually watched it, that might explain the billion in the red every quarter situation right?
Disney+ losses went from a billion last year to 500M this year, in one to two years they'll be making a profit.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/disney-earnings-streaming-1235559975/
Disney going bankrupt isn't happening, no matter how hard you wish for it. This thing is too big.
>Disney going bankrupt isn't happening, no matter how hard you wish for it. This thing is too big.
They don't have to go bankrupt. They can fade into irrelevancy like Eastman Kodak. The movies are already irrelevant (woke)
They would have if they made the same mistake kodak made back then, which is pretty much what half the morons in here recommended them to do. Kodak became irrelevant because they refused the digital revolution, they knew digital was going to cut their profit margin, which was true, but the digital revolution was happening anyway.
Disney saw the streaming revolution coming, it jumped in a bit late compared to netflix but still early enough. Half the morons in here are still adamant they never should have, despite it being the best choice they made in the last 10 years. Their margins are going to decrease, but the streaming revolution was happening wether they liked it or not the only question was how big their share of the pie wad going to be.
the chief issue for disney is the entertainment market being divided between too many mediums/companies for disney to be able to draw the audiences necessary to sustain themselves. netflix was part of that market division. everyone jumping to make their own streaming platform just worsened the division of the market.
Anon their biggest show was the mandalorian, see how well it actually did
>https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fg%2F11f7kcy25m,%2Fg%2F11fd6dg0by
It's over, they just don't have the talent to compete in streaming
the point is they're spending tens and hundreds of millions of dollars and their competition is some homosexual or bawd on twitch
>fire everyone and stop making content
>still lose half a billion every three months
Damn I don't think even Apple is going to buy this tire fire of a "company"
I just don’t understand why morons INSIST these streaming platforms are generating profit. If they’re doing so well, why are they threatening to insert commercials? Why are some of them pulling shows to free up space? Why are they writing these shows off as tax losses? Most Wars fans I know do not subscribe to Disney+. But, let’s say that they did. It’s only $8 a month and the people that I have known to subscribe did it for free. But let’s say they all pay $8 a month. How can that even begin to cover these $200 million budgets plus operational costs? I just don’t see the money in it. A theatrical release generates immediate income from sales and income later selling DVDs or digital downloads. THEN they can release it to streaming if they please. But all of this exorbitant expense to create content only to squirrel it away behind a paywall they must maintain while collecting pennies a day seems insane.
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I like how its basically common knowledge that hollywood uses creative accounting to make profits disappear, but for some reason don't think it can also make profits appear as well.
Hollywwod accounting is playing with the books like paying yourself to make it appear like a project is more expensive than it really is, you can't make money appear out of think air that's ridiculous.
its just numbers in a computer file. Yes, the books can be cooked to make something look more successful than it is.
The success of the MCU brand is the only thing keeping Disney afloat, and that brand is quickly deteriorating in a more damaging way than Star Wars deteriorated. All those billions earned amount to nothing when Iger spends so much more, purchasing other media brands and running them to the ground. The endless Disney live action adaptations should be a sign to you that they are desperate for audience interaction
That also means they still have cash cows, remake and sequels are sure revenue stream they can spend on originals which more often than not will flop.
The toher studios are trying to mimick their behaviour but thye do not have as much IP, thus why Paramount is milking star trek into the ground.
Marvel is the only franchise that’s still consistently successful though and even then they’re still 3 years away from the Avengers coming back.
>consistently successful
>is currently on a flop streak
>flop streak
LMAO, only a signle marvel movie flopped, Quantumania, and even then it didn't flop that hard. DC can only dream such numbers.
Strange World and Lightyear were massive flops. Elemental barely broke even. Haunted Mansion got destroyed by Barbenheimer. Dilator of Dysentary earned less than a $15 million child trafficking documentary. Their only successes this year were GotG 3 and Little Mermaid.
Learn to read, the other anon was tlking about marvel.
Of the last 6 MCU movies, only one flopped.
Disney+ is fricked mate, they lose like a billion every quarter, they have so much share because they give it away for free or close. Marvel used to make money but no more, that's fricked too. I'd be working on my CV if I was a pajeet shill like you
note that parrot analytics doesn't have any actual data, they go by social media mentions. that's basically just a piechart of who has the most memes.
>note that parrot analytics doesn't have any actual data,
And they make that shit up too, I can go to google trends right now and literally their most popular show would lose to your average FOTM netflix shit or anything HBO puts a little marketing on. That shit's really dead
>Disney will cost more than 200 billion dollars
That's 130 billion dollars more than Activision-Blizzard. I forgot just how rich Apple really is. They have a market cap of 3 trillion dollars.
disney is barely worth 50b right now, what the frick you even talking about
Disney's market cap is 160 billion right now, Apple is going to have to pay more on top of that to acquire them.
the only people who think disney is going to be bought, by anyone, are delusional disney executives praying to be rescued from their own mismanagement.
Exactly
May as well get disney cheap
Disney as a whole consists of too much superfluous crap that Apple would have zero interest in. Maybe they pick off individual aspects of Disney, them getting Pixar would be poetic.
Do people in here even think? Like even assuming apple bought disney, what do you think is going to happen, they are going to unwoke it? Have you looked at apple tv's catalog for a second?
Luck was so fricking bad
Apple World, the most magical place in the world
I'm half expecting Disney to buy games workshop at some point. They already own star wars and alien, and warhammer is mostly just capeshit in space now and wouldn't be different the GOTG ultimately
Because they're both awful? Yeah it would fit.
The FTC is a joke. They couldn't block Microsoft, so there's no chance in hell they'll block Apple.
They couldnt block MS because their deal was pro consumer and everyone in the rest of the world saw that.
Nothing MS does is pro consumer
>t. seething sonygger
See you 10 years when snoy becomes a third party publisher for the Xbox Series Z and Nintendo Switch 3, troony.
Does anyone here know if Aple owners are woke like Disney owners?
>every new show on d+ bombs or gets severely mogged by netflix and HBO
>not a single movie breaks even in 2023
>indiana jones 5 is the biggest financial failure in the history of filmmaking
The media side of disney is already dead, deader than anyone else actually, but the parks and merch are enough to keep the conglomerate alive. Thing is how long will they keep subsidizing it especially when it's such a public source of embarrassment and ridicule