With this and the planned ESPN/WBD/Fox sports app, is it fricking happening? Are Disney and Warner, or parts of them, going to merge?
https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/disney-plus-hulu-max-bundle-1235996533/
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And cable's back.
Might as well. Paying for everything separately is moronic.
I called this shit years ago when companies started pulling their stuff off Netflix to make their own services. Here we are now back to consolidating all the content l because consumers said frick this and started pirating again.
People won't stop pirating because of this, though. Cable was irritating and bundles are irritating. Piracy is a service issue and they don't have a service.
>"because consumers said frick this and started pirating again."
More like because you can't have infinite growth, when you already dominate the market, and continue to ruin your service with ads and constantly removing content in order to gain more profit
It’s simply because streaming was a mistake. Everybody using Netflix would have been three times as worse.
Streaming is consolidating all sources of revenue. Ticket sales, tv syndication, DVDs and advertising all collapsed into one singular point that has to compete with YouTube and TikTok. It’s fricked and pirates will only make the problem worse. Original movies died because people stopped buying dvds but every frickwit acts like piracy is a good thing.
There’s a hard limit to the amount of money you can make from streaming. With DVDs every customers could buy more DVDs, buy blu-rays or buy special editions. Cinemas could seek more or less tickets, 3d screenings, special popcorn. With streaming every customer pays one flat rate. Scratch that not every customer, every household.
Once you have market saturation you can’t make more money. More successful things don’t make more money either. If 100% of your audience watched something or if 2% of your audience watches something it makes no difference unless either gained more subscribers.
>pirates
>dvd sales
so move to merchandising, or somehow convince a collectors market that the BD looks better than streaming which it does
theaters are crap now because they don't enforce any rules, you always have some cum sack screaming their cell phone or someone brought a baby. I like the theater, but I hate the people, and you can't fix people.
traditional media including streaming has basically lost the male market entirely to video games and especially live service video games. Males have 0 reason to invest time into a TV show or a movie unless a woman is involved.
Collectors market is tiny and theatres vary due to location. A lot of great movies did nothing at the box office but had great life on DVDs. That can’t be the case with streaming because nothing is watched a week after it comes out.
you aren't gonna beat the convenience of streaming, and kids rewatch the same stupid DVD and streaming movie hundreds of times
Hi, it's me, the stupid bastard who still insists on collecting physical media. Just chiming in to say the biggest thing holding me back is that a ton of the shit I want isn't even on blu-ray. Movies, sure, but cartoon series are lucky to even get shitty overpriced DVD releases and I refuse to pay for an SD release of an HD show.
Hey so Discotek releases a bunch of SD Blu-Rays of old shows, and you'll never get an HD version. Why won't you get an HD version? Because in the 80's they stopped using film and moved to VHS for TV archives. All your favorite cartoons were transferred to then edited on tape, that includes everything on FOX like The Simpsons, X-Men, and Spider-Man. Everything on WB, everything on Disney, USA, Nickelodeon, CN, etc. Up until at least 2006 when they started moving towards HD.
So no you can't get better versions, you can't get good looking AI upscaled versions, you can't get cleaned versions, you can't get anything except maybe better sounding versions because for whatever reason DVD has worse audio than VHS.
Hem, as shit without a paddle as Disco▪cuc°k have become with the Jelloshitpocalypseshit thing, most of the time they output SD BDs, which i have no objections about it, ita because most of those shows are stuck at 480p only with no HD versions available for many of those, SPECIALLY for frankemaster based shows that combine Shot on Film with Early digital, (Mom Colle Knights)
I think Inuyasha is the only one that looks decent from that era
Takahashi holds up in general because it's made for really cheap newsprint and weekly releases on the NHK. Her stuff is simple and fun and bouncy.
>Takahashi's tropes and humor
No thanks, ill take MCU wheadonisms, and i dont want either.
We can't even get an HD Little Mermaid or Cinderella that doesn't look like ass.
the movies? that was Disney using new stupid cheapo upscaling shit for itunes and Disney is about as cheap as they come.
the little mermaid TV show has other problems, like it was made both in 16:9 and 4:3 but has the issues of the DBZ movies where both versions are missing information
Dont forget the darkening filter.
Stars wars and marvel slop is getting pumped out but that’s because it has to. If they know that most of their audience subscribed for that and they want to keep their audience then the only way to do that is produce marvel and Star Wars stuff for every month of the year.
It’s like a dugong at an aquarium. If the keepers stop loading a tone of lettuce every minute into the enclosure to feed the dugong it will starve. If the dugong starves the aquarium will fail. This wouldn’t be a problem if the dugong was in the wild but you can’t return the dugong now that it’s here so they just have to keep frantically loading lettuce.
>Everybody using Netflix would have been three times as worse.
No it wouldnt be. The free market is a fake idea and some things need to be regulated monopolies or owned by the government. These streaming services making moronic decisions is literally making bucket loads of lost media
monopoly needs to be redefined as 22% of the market not 51% to encourage healthy competition
Not necessarily. You need robust small business protection laws and to make sure that they're allowed to bend the rules a little bit as well. If any macroeconomist had the guts to tack protecting small businesses onto relatively orthodox Keynesianism/MMT they'd create a winning playbook.
Whenever media is "written off", it should become available to everyone (such as a free, ad-free version of the company's streaming service) and be subject to fair use.
A monopoly is one business. It's technically not a monopoly if it's 99%, but I do agree that 50% should be the maximum threshold.
It is not the responsibility of the state to supply you with cartoons.
Frick you pbs kids is kino.
Disney should of just partnered with Prime or Netflix and let them figure out streaming cost.
Youtube itself IS consolidation. Tell me what other streaming service have very old videos of 1930, a news video of 1980 about gas prices, random videos of Chattanooga in 1990, with random clips of Tv stations of UK, Africa, India, Australia, Argentina, etc.
Netflix and others have the same Hollywood garbage and no foreign content outside of anime
Netflix have plenty of Korean content and are legally required to have European and Australian content
YouTube is only profitable due to its massive size.
YouTube isn't profitable; Google just wants you to think it is so you don't lose faith and stop investing. They haven't made an actually viable product since Gmail, and what, are they going to duel with Microsoft over an office software suite?
Page and Brin made the wrong decision to turn a search company into a religion and it's biting us all in the ass. Stick to search, go into Gmail, groom Pichai. Was destroying America and the minds of a generation worth Wojcicki's pussy?
gmail isn't even close to standard for business, maybe some shitty small businesses use it but nothing that matters. Everyone uses 365, it's just a better system even as shitty as it is.
Exactly. But it's the only thing they developed for themselves still standing that they didn't buy. Google can't even make an RSS reader that's good. They are entirely coasting off of the momentum of a single white paper for an era of the internet that they themselves helped end. The future is not massive web crawlers and automatic site indexing, but curator driven indexing. Think yellowpages or blog repositories.
It's a shame. They ought to have kept gmail as the instant reputable thing you can get instead of pushing all the bad faith users into disposable emails. If you can control criminals and make sure they don't do anything that will get you in trouble, you have the world in your hands.
I dunno about that, I mean, ChatGPT is much better at Google than Google, like stupidly better.
>gmail discontinued basic html view so you have to deal with their shitty, slow, bloated new version
Gross.
>Netflix and others have the same Hollywood garbage and no foreign content outside of anime
Are you blind? Just look at how many Korean tv series and movies are on Netflix. Along with tons of Turkish and Arabic series
>I called this shit years ago
Good to know you have the mental understanding of a high schooler. You say this like no one else saw this coming 2 decades ago.
Only more expensive and less reliable.
cable subscriptions were often significantly more expensive than maintaining multiple streaming service subs, especially because you paid extra for the "good" channels.
i'm not sure what you mean by reliable though.
>less reliable
I get that stuff randomly disappearing is sub-optimal but at least now we have some degree of control over what we watch rather than just whatever's on.
This is just cable except you're still paying the cable company $50-80 a month just for the internet connection
And like cable eventually the "bundle" will be $150/month plus the Internet.
Streaming services are losing their identity with all this merging crap. No reason for TV-MA shows to be on Disney+ for instance.
Disney doesn't care about its identity anymore, they finished their transformation into a generic corporate blob when they assimilated Fox.
They had a good thing going before. Disney+ was the kids/family/everyone service, while Hulu was geared for primarily adults. Now too many shows are overlapping both services and inheriting from others, it's a mess.
It's because they need to do it to try to turn a profit, even though they're just shells on the same infrastructure. The jump to streaming will fell every major media company and force them to unwind.
>Disney+ was the kids/family/everyone service, while Hulu was geared for primarily adults
And that never made any sense, there is no reason to even split the content, youtube kids only exist so toddlers can use the internet without their parents having to be around micromanaging everything they click.
It makes sense if you want to offer both a family friendly service but also have a bunch of adult content to offer. That was one of the points of Disney+ but it lost that identity.
You can just have the kids profile.
i'm already getting disney & hulu for $20.
so how much will it add with max? $30?
cause then i can afford streaming finally.
20$? you know that it was always 30$, right? why you're still waiting a 50$ offer for? 60$ take it or leave it! 70$ is insane, we're going broke!
lol, lmao even, this is just overpriced cable + having to pay to your ISP the internet conexion to stream in the first place.
Expect a huge rise in piracy
This is just an optional bundle though? You can keep select services if you choose.
I always love it when I go to a restaurant and it's like
>Burger: $5.99
>Fries: $3.49
>Soda: $1.99
>Burger Combo: $12.00
>Are Disney and Warner going to merge?
Not in your wildest dreams. Disney still has yet to complete its buyout of Hulu first.
>food anal(you)gy
>Oh really, how did that Microsoft lawsuit go?
Stay on topic, moron. Oh, and don't forget to read actual news.
How would Cinemaphile Cinemaphilepe if Disney and Warner merged one day?
It would be a weapon to surpass not only Metal Gear but Bendis. We can't let such a monopoly come to pass.
>marvel & dc are both canon to my bullshit rhetarics
Cheers!
>Star Wars
>Dune
>Harry Potter
>Marvel
>DC
>Monsterverse
>Planet of the Apes
>Avatar
>Stephen King verse
What would be even left? Transformers and...?
the other famous Hasbro franchise that has a board here
Is that even possible? DIsney is already huge but by absorbing WB they would have undeniably control over the majority of most movies, most animated series, most series etc
Nervermind how that would be a company that makes
>streaming
>movies and series
>video games
>theme parks
at that point they would produce everything but toys
The FTC won't let them.
FTC has been taking nothing but L's. There's nothing particularly special about Disney or WB that would prevent them from merging.
>MUH MARVEL, MUH DC
Nobody cares.
Read some actual news and not just outrage bait. The FTC has absolutely annihilated plenty of mergers.
Oh really, how did that Microsoft lawsuit go? How about the Disney-Fox merger?
I think the WB-Discovery-Viacom merger getting btfo is proof that one was a wake-up call for them.
Also to be fair, Disney-FOX was pretty fricking embarrassing in hindsight because the general public were basedjacking about the X-men while no one was thinking of the streaming shares
>Microsoft lawsuit
Temporary setback, Microsoft is already dying
>Disney-Fox
Oh, golly, and I bet you think that Assad guy's one hell of a fellow!
Things take time to change. You're stuck in an infinite loop of short term e-girlcontrarian hits.
Maybe they’ll have to jettison some stuff, like what happened with GE.
they won't exactly merge but with this whole thing, we know that Discovery is more than willing to sell off pieces of WB, especially those that are scripted IP's.
So expect most of DC to end up at Marvel within 5 years and WB will retain Batman and probably nothing but Batman.
Yeah, I see absolutely no reason for this deal other than Disney trying to normalize it's links with WB, everybody will see those 2 as very close partners so a merge would be way more accepted by the public
Why only Warner Bros? Why not invite Paramount?
Unironically the death of Cinemaphilentent. I'd only be able to cope the same way I always do by ignoring the problem.
>content
kys
You first.
why? i'm not some slop consooomer crying over da Cinemaphilentent
Disney literally can’t afford it, they’re about to be forced to buy the remaining shares of Hulu Comcast owns, which will be anywhere from 27.5 billion to 100 billion dollars; coming after the hope Disney would only pay 8-12 billion dollars. They’re fricked
I dont know why anybody would be suprised, pure streaming services dont actually make any money so why not rebrand cable and refeed it to consumers in a new package.
First this, then it buys Warner Discovery, then Netflix and finally Cable2 comes out.
Either that or it becomes the third largest political force in the United States.
"It all returns to nothing"
This isn't what you think it is. This is the first step towards a Disney-WB merger.
Yeah, I told them to just merge everything into one service already. The fact remains, no one is gonna pay $60 for 5 different services, no one, if corporations want to survive they must bend the knee to the consumer, and do everything in one service now, there is no longer room for competition. They need to invite Viacom while they're at it.
>I told them to just merge everything into one service already.
I knew it was you, you did it just to piss me off didn't you?
Yeah, I told Disney to put more black girls into their movies and tv shows too, it's always been me anon, and I'll fricking do it again just to inconvenience your life more.
You also told them to add galaxys edge too Disneyland instead of California adventure? You MONSTER!!
How could you ruin my pure, Disney brand with those filthy super heroes and light sabers?!
what the actual frick
Let's add every other company to it
name it... Nettflix
So…. Cable?
does this means those stupid tv remotes with very specific buttons will be gone for good?
lol no, even the cable companies have moved over to streaming with Xumo and they have the buttons
half of $30 a month is better than $10 a month
Not CommieInflation fricking you up.
Both companies are beyond fricked if they're this desperate, holy kek.
Capitalism was a mistake.
Netflix and Youtube won, everyone else lost
Unless they begin sharing resources and technology, this alliance will not beat Netflix. As they are now, they are paying duplicate/redundant operating costs.
They are desperate to mitigate the damage once 2025 Crash hits them hard
The big ones are offering voluntary layoffs to a ton of people to save money now, but that isn't working.
Couldn't get that sports deal so now they're trying this. There's no way this ends well for anyone, especially the consumer.