All these movies are going to flop, and Disney is going to collapse in on itself. >Uh buh buh ESG! Blackrock!
All these movies are going to flop, and Disney is going to collapse in on itself.
Why do you think Disney and all these other ultra woke companies are doubling and tripling down on their failures over and over again? Who in their right mind would alienate half their potential customers by inserting politics and social agendas where they don't belong? The only thing that makes sense is they know no matter how hard their movies, shows, vidya, or any other form of media flops they'll still get paid in the end. And all this messaging is literally going in one direction while framing the other side as evil, immoral, and subhuman (aka white men, religion, traditionalism). And even if all that were conjecture, ESG is not some crazy conspiracy, it's well known and documented how it works. Blackrock is paying all these companies that they own a majority stake in to produce propaganda no matter how subversive or unpopular it is with the public.
>Why do you think Disney and all these other ultra woke companies are doubling and tripling down on their failures over and over again?
The people running these companies 20-30 years ago were shrewd, idealistic capitalists who recognized that they were running a business, their goal was to make money, and their business model for making money was to make a consistently good product that could compete in its market. The people running these companies now are scam artists or communists who think their business model is either selling a con or selling a "culture". People who would argue that "real woke entertainment has never been tried!"
In the 90s, an internal memo from Mike Eisner was floating around the Disney animation studios >We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make a statement. BUT... to make money, it is often important to make history, to make art, or to make some significant statement. In order to make money, we must always make entertaining movies, and if we make entertaining movies, at times we will reliably make history, art, a statement, or all three. We may even win awards. We cannot expect numerous hits, but if every film has an original and imaginative concept, then we can be confident that something will break through.
Eisner was probably the last guy at Disney who really *got* Walt's attitude. They're a business, they're there to make money, but the way they do that reliably is by making the best, most innovative, most original, most imaginative, most entertaining content they can.
The concern now is less with what they can do to make a good product people want and more about what they can do to compel people to pay for it regardless of its quality.
BlackRock doesn't own a majority stake in Disney. They haven't bought any stocks since 2020, and said stocks have been losing value since. They haven't given out a single loan to Disney.
So pray tell, what the frick are you talking about?
I know Cinemaphile hates him but that was massively based. If any other actor insisted that their character fricked their female co-star's character offscreen they would be photoshopping him as gigachad
They even had her have a vision of her as being evil. They really didn't know what they were writing and implying at all.
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"Her grandpa is evil! She fears she might be evil!" It just doesn't work because she has zero connection to him. Not just because they don't associate until the climax of the movie, but because of their stations in life. She's a hero of humble beginnings and he's space Satan. There are no parallels to draw. The part where she accidentally uses Force lightning and the movie tries to suggest it might be the Palpatine in her peaking out like a turtleheading turd says it all. The parallels between Luke and Vader are apparent in the original movie even before the Anakin/Vader retcon, which is why the retcon was effective. Rey Palpatine didn't do anything for the story whatsoever.
it’s weird that jedism and the sith are such stagnant religions. there would realistically be mountains of theology and doctrinal debate, probably like 10 different organised disagreeing sects of jedi and schisms
Yes it's weird how in 20 years everyone forgot the Jedi even existed and referred to them as myth, like that board meeting scene in Episode IV where that officer guy calls Vader an outdated sorcerer even though the guy fought in the fcking Clone Wars with the Jedis.
As for the Siths I always thought the Rule of Two in particular was nonsense. Like how do you even enforce it? How were Palpatine and Vader sure they were the only two Sith's in the universe? I mean it's a big ass galaxy so you cant be fully sure that you are the only two Siths at any given point in time. That's just moronic worldbuilding that doesnt make any sense,
>How did they enforce it?
They didn't. In the EU both had secret apprentices and entire castes of Force Users under their command, all on some technicalities along the lines of "they aren't true Sith".
>it's weird how in 20 years everyone forgot the Jedi even existed and referred to them as myth
I never even thought about this but you're right.
Goddamn the sequel trilogy is such contrived shit on so many levels.
>like that board meeting scene in Episode IV where that officer guy calls Vader an outdated sorcerer even though the guy fought in the fcking Clone Wars with the Jedis.
the funny thing now is that he should be aware about the inquisitorious and a bunch of dark side force users running around the galaxy hunting jedi, unless that whole inquisitors thing is a black ops thing
>unless that whole inquisitors thing is a black ops thing
Not even sure it is now, I'm sure it's mentioned by the ESB or whatever they are during Andor
>How were Palpatine and Vader sure they were the only two Sith's in the universe?
I mean in the old EU they weren't but if they caught anyone trying to butt into their sith shit they tended to die, plus you had Vader trying multiple times with secret sith assassins and apprentices to 1 up Sideious that always failed.
Wouldn't "Fall of the Jedi" just be the bookend of The High Republic and wouldn't "Age of Rebellion" just be a movement within the Reign of the Empire?
What a weirdly redundant way of trying to set a historical timeline.
These are actual discrete eras with no overlap. Some are long, some are short. The "eras" in the OP's image are not discrete from one another, many of them overlap or are in fact totally redundant.
>These are actual discrete eras with no overlap.
I don't know what this means, though. There's no overlap in OP either. The categories are arbitrary because it's just convenient branding -- the same way New Republic Era and New Jedi Order Era per Dark Horse are separated even though the latter still exists during the New Republic.
>They basically just applied two different labels to the same time period.
They just broke it down further. That's it. You could contain the NJO era within the New Republic era too, but Dark Horse and Del Rey didn't. You're getting caught up over labels.
>who can keep consuming this crap?
My 60yr old dad for one
he consumes literally all star wars media and complains about it all being shit. Except he liked Rogue One and the mandolorian which keeps tricking him into thinking maybe something else will be good.
Basically he saw all 3 original films at the cinema and then the prequels and then the disney sequels so he says hes seen all of it so he may as well watch the rest.
And yes hes even watched the clone wars, rebels etc.
How is the Age of Rebellion separate from the Reign of the Empire? Didn't the Rebel Alliance form almost immediately after the formation of the Empire? Also wasn't the Fall of the Jedi an event that took place during the height of the Republic? For that matter, the First Order existed alongside the New Republic didn't it? I mean until they blew up Coruscant, then it wasn't clear who was controlling the galaxy because the writing in those movies was absolute garbage.
That implies the empire was not reigning during the rebellion, but it clearly was. In the first place there can be no "rebellion" if there is no empire currently in control of things. What would they be rebelling against?
>That implies the empire was not reigning during the rebellion, but it clearly was.
Perhaps, but it's just how they're categorizing material. The range of the movies is more particularized because that's where things are more fixated.
They really aren't. It's laughable how they tried to treat them like a big evil empire when they just appeared out of nowhere, were inexplicably more powerful than the ruling government which managed to defeat the fricking empire, and which was still led by many of the heroes who fought against the empire, and somehow maintained a massive advanced military force without any kind of economic engine of support.
I'm expecting something to surface about that troony that they're holding onto until before the show launches. I always had a bad feeling about that show ever since they announced the casting. It's going to be a whole debacle.
They keep thinking about future movie ideas in terms of "what protagonists there'll be", like the rise of the new jedi order.
But instead the need to conceive of future movies in terms of "what bad shit will happen" and then have protags respond to that.
Rey's new movie (if it happens) won't be about anything except her taking a shit and hitting rocks or whatever because there's no purpose for her.
Stupid shit for stupid people
I could let it be for dweebs until Disney came in and took this already utterly ridiculous and hokey, hackneyed shit and absolutely sucked it dry of anything resembling fun. No self respecting nerd, dweeb or poindexter should be within a 100 miles of anything nuwars.
>Jedi republic republic jedi empire rebllion republic jedi
The Star Wars universe really is tiny. There's frick all else you can do with it, otherwise people will complain it's not Star Wars
>after the old republic it comes the High Republic
You can bet that not only nobody knows a single shit about time periods there but also they don't know or care a single shit about the lore
since they're focusing on back in time stuff they could erase the last three eras and nobody would give a shit. If anything I think it would get people more into starwars.
>Old Republic aka Dark Ages and pretty much constant strife all around >High Republic aka Golden Age right after
I get that it's supposed to be optimistic but how is having more Jedi around increased the overall safety and happiness of the Galaxy?
What doesn’t fit in this timeline? Disney’s shit. Why? Because the morons that made it forgot to include any time skips. The First Order’s “reign” was an eye-blink, like less than 5 years in a history that covers millennia. And another thing that sticks out - the meaning of the names. “Republic,” “Empire,” “Jedi,” all of these terms either require no explanation or are well defined by the world they’re set in. Now tell me what the “First Order” is. The only other times we hear the term “order” used prior to Disney’s butchery, it’s in reference to either the Jedi or one of the other Force religions, but never once in the ST or the other material associated with it is the name ever given any explanation or meaning.
Personally, I believe that the reason we’re never given a meaning for their chosen name is because it was Abrams half-assing something that was an allusion to the old-school fans, painting us as angry, gatekeeping Nazis. This is not only insulting, it’s bad for the setting. Prior to Disney, Star Wars was no stranger to metaphor, but under Lucas’s direction, those metaphors were there to provide the setting with historic and mythic resonance, to immerse the audience in the world of Star Wars. Meta references to the setting’s fans run counter to that, pull the viewer out of the setting.
i do not care
fpbp
I used to be a big star wars fan. Now I've lost all interest in the franchise.
Same, but Alien
This might be the end goal, to stop people from becoming manchildren by ruining the products they consume.
keyed
locked
I care
i dont
All these movies are going to flop, and Disney is going to collapse in on itself.
>Uh buh buh ESG! Blackrock!
All these movies are going to flop, and Disney is going to collapse in on itself.
Why do you think Disney and all these other ultra woke companies are doubling and tripling down on their failures over and over again? Who in their right mind would alienate half their potential customers by inserting politics and social agendas where they don't belong? The only thing that makes sense is they know no matter how hard their movies, shows, vidya, or any other form of media flops they'll still get paid in the end. And all this messaging is literally going in one direction while framing the other side as evil, immoral, and subhuman (aka white men, religion, traditionalism). And even if all that were conjecture, ESG is not some crazy conspiracy, it's well known and documented how it works. Blackrock is paying all these companies that they own a majority stake in to produce propaganda no matter how subversive or unpopular it is with the public.
>Why do you think Disney and all these other ultra woke companies are doubling and tripling down on their failures over and over again?
The people running these companies 20-30 years ago were shrewd, idealistic capitalists who recognized that they were running a business, their goal was to make money, and their business model for making money was to make a consistently good product that could compete in its market. The people running these companies now are scam artists or communists who think their business model is either selling a con or selling a "culture". People who would argue that "real woke entertainment has never been tried!"
In the 90s, an internal memo from Mike Eisner was floating around the Disney animation studios
>We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make a statement. BUT... to make money, it is often important to make history, to make art, or to make some significant statement. In order to make money, we must always make entertaining movies, and if we make entertaining movies, at times we will reliably make history, art, a statement, or all three. We may even win awards. We cannot expect numerous hits, but if every film has an original and imaginative concept, then we can be confident that something will break through.
Eisner was probably the last guy at Disney who really *got* Walt's attitude. They're a business, they're there to make money, but the way they do that reliably is by making the best, most innovative, most original, most imaginative, most entertaining content they can.
The concern now is less with what they can do to make a good product people want and more about what they can do to compel people to pay for it regardless of its quality.
BlackRock doesn't own a majority stake in Disney. They haven't bought any stocks since 2020, and said stocks have been losing value since. They haven't given out a single loan to Disney.
So pray tell, what the frick are you talking about?
>the Rey movie
So is that baboon coming back to lay pipe?
I know Cinemaphile hates him but that was massively based. If any other actor insisted that their character fricked their female co-star's character offscreen they would be photoshopping him as gigachad
Unless they make her embrace her Palpatine, it will flop.
Who cares about any of this shit. Imagine being a grown man or woman and getting excited about le space wars like a fricking child
see
What should people be excited about? Genuine question. I'm not excited about much these days.
Not him but probably a nice holiday, your son's graduation, son's marriage, etc
I heard they were building another death star
i hear palpatine is coming back
Shiv possesses Rey's body now. They can't unwrite that shit, they made it happen.
they can just do another fortnite event to hand wave that
They even had her have a vision of her as being evil. They really didn't know what they were writing and implying at all.
"Her grandpa is evil! She fears she might be evil!" It just doesn't work because she has zero connection to him. Not just because they don't associate until the climax of the movie, but because of their stations in life. She's a hero of humble beginnings and he's space Satan. There are no parallels to draw. The part where she accidentally uses Force lightning and the movie tries to suggest it might be the Palpatine in her peaking out like a turtleheading turd says it all. The parallels between Luke and Vader are apparent in the original movie even before the Anakin/Vader retcon, which is why the retcon was effective. Rey Palpatine didn't do anything for the story whatsoever.
He obviously doesn't, but I don't understand what they were thinking with that plot point.
Somehow.
Life events, hobby goals, getting really sweaty and dirty and then taking a shower. Maybe sex if you're one of the lucky few on this site.
Be excited when you gain a career. When you get married. When you have a child. Not disposable movies.
I don't care about any of those things.
the third Jedi game might be good
...that's about it
holy fricking shit they are not making this many goddamn movies are they? this has to be a fricking joke
you stupid b***h.
it’s weird that jedism and the sith are such stagnant religions. there would realistically be mountains of theology and doctrinal debate, probably like 10 different organised disagreeing sects of jedi and schisms
The Jedi brook no heretics while the Sith killed each other too much.
Yes it's weird how in 20 years everyone forgot the Jedi even existed and referred to them as myth, like that board meeting scene in Episode IV where that officer guy calls Vader an outdated sorcerer even though the guy fought in the fcking Clone Wars with the Jedis.
As for the Siths I always thought the Rule of Two in particular was nonsense. Like how do you even enforce it? How were Palpatine and Vader sure they were the only two Sith's in the universe? I mean it's a big ass galaxy so you cant be fully sure that you are the only two Siths at any given point in time. That's just moronic worldbuilding that doesnt make any sense,
>captcha - D08000
its midichlorians i dont have to explain shit
>How did they enforce it?
They didn't. In the EU both had secret apprentices and entire castes of Force Users under their command, all on some technicalities along the lines of "they aren't true Sith".
This is part of why the Chosen One prophecy was a nonsensical addition to the story.
>it's weird how in 20 years everyone forgot the Jedi even existed and referred to them as myth
I never even thought about this but you're right.
Goddamn the sequel trilogy is such contrived shit on so many levels.
>like that board meeting scene in Episode IV where that officer guy calls Vader an outdated sorcerer even though the guy fought in the fcking Clone Wars with the Jedis.
the funny thing now is that he should be aware about the inquisitorious and a bunch of dark side force users running around the galaxy hunting jedi, unless that whole inquisitors thing is a black ops thing
>unless that whole inquisitors thing is a black ops thing
Not even sure it is now, I'm sure it's mentioned by the ESB or whatever they are during Andor
>inquisitorious
"We want the 40k audience."
Or... And it may sound crazy... He just chose those words to piss off Vader. You know, what an insult is supposed to do.
>tips fedora at the 7' tall cyborg with a laser sword who has a basement full of dead kids confirmed as of Kenobi.
>How were Palpatine and Vader sure they were the only two Sith's in the universe?
I mean in the old EU they weren't but if they caught anyone trying to butt into their sith shit they tended to die, plus you had Vader trying multiple times with secret sith assassins and apprentices to 1 up Sideious that always failed.
how is that guy any different from modern fedora tippers?
Why didn't Sheev continue to do galaxy-wide midichlorian screenings to find all the Force Sensitives?
Anybody could just look up a wikihow on using the Force and become a notJedi.
More thought went into the process of creating the symbols than into the movies themselves
Sneed are you there? Sneed? SNEEEEEEED!!!?!!?!?
I don't give a shit what Disney says, NJO means the Yuuzhan Vong invasion and always will be.
If they get their Mary Sue then Shadow Skywalker deserves to exist too. It's only fair.
All I see is flops.
Wouldn't "Fall of the Jedi" just be the bookend of The High Republic and wouldn't "Age of Rebellion" just be a movement within the Reign of the Empire?
What a weirdly redundant way of trying to set a historical timeline.
It's because they're keeping time periods associated with the movies distinct. It's just branding.
THE DEAD SPEAK!
>THERE ARE HEROES ON BOTH SIDES
They at least attempted to mirror George's gravitas for the title crawls but they are too amateur.
>Literally in Minecraft
>3 eras last thousands of years
>6 eras span around 50 years
this is so fricking moronic. who can keep consuming this crap?
It's just a way of categorizing stories. Old EU guides were often kind of similar.
These are actual discrete eras with no overlap. Some are long, some are short. The "eras" in the OP's image are not discrete from one another, many of them overlap or are in fact totally redundant.
>These are actual discrete eras with no overlap.
I don't know what this means, though. There's no overlap in OP either. The categories are arbitrary because it's just convenient branding -- the same way New Republic Era and New Jedi Order Era per Dark Horse are separated even though the latter still exists during the New Republic.
>There's no overlap in OP either
There is considerable overlap. They basically just applied two different labels to the same time period.
>They basically just applied two different labels to the same time period.
They just broke it down further. That's it. You could contain the NJO era within the New Republic era too, but Dark Horse and Del Rey didn't. You're getting caught up over labels.
>who can keep consuming this crap?
My 60yr old dad for one
he consumes literally all star wars media and complains about it all being shit. Except he liked Rogue One and the mandolorian which keeps tricking him into thinking maybe something else will be good.
Basically he saw all 3 original films at the cinema and then the prequels and then the disney sequels so he says hes seen all of it so he may as well watch the rest.
And yes hes even watched the clone wars, rebels etc.
>And yes hes even watched the clone wars, rebels etc.
Your father seems to be a good soul. Treasure him.
Damn this is my dad
Truly sad, we enjoyed so many kinos together, then it all went to shit.
Bro I'm in the exact same situation to a T. Except he doesn't watch the animated shit
How is the Age of Rebellion separate from the Reign of the Empire? Didn't the Rebel Alliance form almost immediately after the formation of the Empire? Also wasn't the Fall of the Jedi an event that took place during the height of the Republic? For that matter, the First Order existed alongside the New Republic didn't it? I mean until they blew up Coruscant, then it wasn't clear who was controlling the galaxy because the writing in those movies was absolute garbage.
>ow is the Age of Rebellion separate from the Reign of the Empire?
Reign of Empire is like between Episode 3 and 4 and then age of rebellion is the original trilogy
That implies the empire was not reigning during the rebellion, but it clearly was. In the first place there can be no "rebellion" if there is no empire currently in control of things. What would they be rebelling against?
>That implies the empire was not reigning during the rebellion, but it clearly was.
Perhaps, but it's just how they're categorizing material. The range of the movies is more particularized because that's where things are more fixated.
first order doesn't seem like that big of a deal
They really aren't. It's laughable how they tried to treat them like a big evil empire when they just appeared out of nowhere, were inexplicably more powerful than the ruling government which managed to defeat the fricking empire, and which was still led by many of the heroes who fought against the empire, and somehow maintained a massive advanced military force without any kind of economic engine of support.
They just seem like some rogue war party that managed to get their hands on a nuke. It felt like they ruled over nothing and had no government.
I genuinely enjoyed the space Antifa show
The only cool canon rebel mook to ever exist
>Disney
>a franchise the creators didn't want creating manchildren
Stop, please. Thanks. Go to TikTok or Facebook or Reddit or something.
>they got a troony for Acolyte
wondering if were gonna get a bud light situation.
I'm expecting something to surface about that troony that they're holding onto until before the show launches. I always had a bad feeling about that show ever since they announced the casting. It's going to be a whole debacle.
acolyte is soft cancelled
They're morons but that isn't news.
They keep thinking about future movie ideas in terms of "what protagonists there'll be", like the rise of the new jedi order.
But instead the need to conceive of future movies in terms of "what bad shit will happen" and then have protags respond to that.
Rey's new movie (if it happens) won't be about anything except her taking a shit and hitting rocks or whatever because there's no purpose for her.
man they're gonna release some turds with the old republic. I'd rather it stay dead.
Star Wars itself should have ended in 1983.
Stupid shit for stupid people
I could let it be for dweebs until Disney came in and took this already utterly ridiculous and hokey, hackneyed shit and absolutely sucked it dry of anything resembling fun. No self respecting nerd, dweeb or poindexter should be within a 100 miles of anything nuwars.
So the first 3 "ages" span hundreds of years and the middle 3 are just about 20 ? Makes sense
The Old Republic is 20,000 years.
>an entire "era" is less than 6 months
>Jedi republic republic jedi empire rebllion republic jedi
The Star Wars universe really is tiny. There's frick all else you can do with it, otherwise people will complain it's not Star Wars
The Empire and the Sith did nothing wrong
The sith were morons but the Empire objectively didn't do anything bad.
How was the New Republic even an era they literally blew it up like five minutes into TFW and didn't even show anything.
REMINDER
Andor is the only acceptable content from this entire franchise if you're over the age of 16
cope and seethe
>after the old republic it comes the High Republic
You can bet that not only nobody knows a single shit about time periods there but also they don't know or care a single shit about the lore
what about the era where the jedi genocided all the sith (oops)
since they're focusing on back in time stuff they could erase the last three eras and nobody would give a shit. If anything I think it would get people more into starwars.
>Rise of the First Order
Why call their whole era that? Does the First Order still exist after Palpatine gets zapped?
They will be fighting Space Chud holdouts just like the EU they erased.
Is there a reason the first Jedi looks like a girl?
what do those wings in emblems mean, there's no birds in space
Just let it die already pleaseeeeee
>Old Republic aka Dark Ages and pretty much constant strife all around
>High Republic aka Golden Age right after
I get that it's supposed to be optimistic but how is having more Jedi around increased the overall safety and happiness of the Galaxy?
Where my highrepublicbros at.
And Disney saves me more money.
>Disney unveiled the canon eras of Star Wars!
What doesn’t fit in this timeline? Disney’s shit. Why? Because the morons that made it forgot to include any time skips. The First Order’s “reign” was an eye-blink, like less than 5 years in a history that covers millennia. And another thing that sticks out - the meaning of the names. “Republic,” “Empire,” “Jedi,” all of these terms either require no explanation or are well defined by the world they’re set in. Now tell me what the “First Order” is. The only other times we hear the term “order” used prior to Disney’s butchery, it’s in reference to either the Jedi or one of the other Force religions, but never once in the ST or the other material associated with it is the name ever given any explanation or meaning.
Personally, I believe that the reason we’re never given a meaning for their chosen name is because it was Abrams half-assing something that was an allusion to the old-school fans, painting us as angry, gatekeeping Nazis. This is not only insulting, it’s bad for the setting. Prior to Disney, Star Wars was no stranger to metaphor, but under Lucas’s direction, those metaphors were there to provide the setting with historic and mythic resonance, to immerse the audience in the world of Star Wars. Meta references to the setting’s fans run counter to that, pull the viewer out of the setting.
tl;dr: Abrams is a lazy hack.
whatever, its shit since the sequels