Disregarding the gender/race baiting, can you explain why exactly this show is so hated before its even released?

Disregarding the gender/race baiting, can you explain why exactly this show is so hated before its even released?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    People like Lord of the Rings and hate Hollywood ruining a good thing. Put two and two together, shill.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Disregarding his propensity to suck dick and get his anus prolapsed by another man's wiener, can you explain exactly why OP is a gay?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Well... OP got paid 25 cents per thread, so he created at least 6 of them in the last hour without being familiar with loving family-like culture of 4cum. So he looks like John McClane in Harlem.
      Pure fricking cringe

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        We don’t get paid per thread created we get paid on a performance basis mostly related to the amount of replies the thread gets. Most I’ve made from a thread is like $10 and it takes a lot of effort to get that. It’s not as easy and profitable as you guys think.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          well, thank you for the information. one has to make a living. oh and i'm sorry to inform you, but see pic related

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine the cataclysmic ape out if you made a Chinese fantasy, and injected it full of Black folk.

    • 2 years ago
      Black anon

      It has a few black actors in a sea of white, get over it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >white productions have to cater to my skin color
        >black productions don't have to cater to anyone else
        >get over it
        No. People are getting incredibly tired of you spoiled violent animals.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know if you're full on moronic or not but if you haven't noticed the trend of dogshit movies and shows casting Black folk only to suffer from shit ratings then I don't know what to tell you at this point.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        And basically zero other races.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This

          It has a few black actors in a sea of white, get over it.

          Cast is like 30-40% Black.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >It has a few black actors in a sea of white, get over it.
        man you amerimutts just don't get it do you?
        they don't belong among us, frick you and your pets keep them away from our literature

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >get over it.
        I will, by never watching sea of white.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No. I am tired of "getting over it". Well know what message is trying to be conveyed here, and we are sick of it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >that nigress is discussed
        >you have to use the word 'Sea' because shes a literal fricking whale

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    But that's the whole point. It's the hypocrisy. It's medieval European fantasy. You just know it wouldn't make sense to have a Wuxia fantasy film with whites and shit. They'd sneed about it if that happened.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There’s literally a black population in Harad in the legendarium, where both of these characters come from lmfao you fricking mongloid

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    doing something that's already been done and done well

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The relentless marketing and the entire foundational existence of this entire show is *based* on "gender/race baiting". It cannot be disregarded, it is the purpose of it's existence. It is a set piece, designed entirely to promote gender and race baiting.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    blacks, cgi, overall sense of soullessness aside, the sauron design is the most insulting
    it's so transparent to look like an evil white school shooter
    the most beautiful elf, whose malignancy could be spotted by few is overtly presented outright as this
    what a joke, what a joke

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      sauron is supposed to look like this beautiful angelic being before he reveals his true form

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the angelic being has an innate incongruency that only a select few can spot
        and i doubt that true form is what we're seeing now
        he would be wearing black, armor or something else
        no, this is just the amazon version of the angelic being with zero nuance

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Eminem is not Sauron FFS. You are talking right in the advertizingn trap.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        let's hope you're right

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the sauron design is the most insulting
      That's not even him. That's not even A him, that's actress Bridie Sisson, she confirmed it on her Instagram. They're still yet to reveal what Sauron will look like, and they're still likely to frick it up if the elves are any indication, but it's not that character. It's just another misdirect like Meteor Man. That wasn't even her voice at the end of the trailer, some people think it's Joseph Mawle's character.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        She'd actually make a pretty good elf if she had long hair, why the hell does she look like an abomination in this show.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          See first section of this

          The hair and makeup department has done a decent job with the orcs, but a shockingly bad job with everything else
          >short bobbed hairstyles and buzz cuts on elves in a time before electric razors
          >Numenorean royalty with beards
          >Dwarven women without beards
          The show plays havoc with the lore, compressing to an insane degree
          >Isildur has already been born before the reemergence of Sauron, and the forging of the rings of power, meaning the centuries-long span of the will be compressed into a single human lifetime
          >Elrond and Galadriel's roles in the 2nd age have essentially been inverted, With Elrond as the aspiring political leader and Galadriel as the leader of warriors.
          >Celebrimbor looks like a middle aged man when he is younger than Galadriel, and is in fact the son of her first cousin.
          >Hobbits, sorry "harfoots" are already in their wandering days in the second age, which is a compression from the third age
          >Halfling folk are involved in the story of the rings of power at all, when it was significant that they had been absent from the great events and deeds of the world until the late 3rd age
          >Meteor man is nothing. If he's Gandalf, he's too early, as he's supposed to arrive in the 3rd age, if he's Sauron, there's no reason for him to reach Middle Earth on a meteor, he'd already be there. No matter what, he's fanfiction.
          >If the pattern of introducing elements from the 3rd age too early continues the way it seems to, that balrog at the end of the trailer is probably Durin's Bane, meaning the course of events of Sauron's war to claim the rings will be thrown off as well.
          And on top of all this, the dialogue is incredibly generic. Not worthy of the linguist who originated the world. By all means, feel free to add anything I missed.

          It's a running problem with all the hairstyling on this show. I don't know what they're thinking.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Eminem is not Sauron FFS. You are talking right in the advertizingn trap.

      based on the leaks, sauron is the new human character halbrand. i don't think they have the rights to saurons elf form

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Sauron doesn't look like an albino Eminem cosplayer school shooter
        >he just looks like some dude
        Kind of funny tbh

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The works this is derived from is art.
    This is a product.
    It checks boxes for a faceless globohomosexual corpofascist organization.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Guy on the right - doesn't look too bad, more D&D rogue than Tolkien elf personally but as an image, a good one.
    Then we have the left.
    Christ alive, someone has actually signed off on that.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's another notch in the destruction of European history and culture. The end goal being to completely erase white identity from the world. And we're supposed to just be fine with that? Absolute madness. You're asking a people who are being genocided to just accept it because it's a slow genocide instead of a quick one.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      saying middle earth is european history is like saying wakanda is african history

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Great, let’s remake Black Panther with an all white cast then

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Sure. I mean, perhaps in time. When the idea of Wakanda becomes more settled. It's a little to recent to pull that off now. But later, why not?

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >dude's such a hard frickin ass that he's bending scale mail with his armpit

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Black person fatigue

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    > Disregarding the gender/race baiting, can you explain why exactly this show is so hated before its even released?

    No. It’s totally the race and gender baiting. As a Tolkien purist I expect it to be bad, but I have huge problems with the Jackson films too. I don’t particularly hate this show and I will almost certainly watch it despite raging at all the things they changed.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      me too sir are very Tolkin fan will do the needful redeem the show pay many rupee to Mr Bezos Amazon

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a very surface level Tolkien fan and I'm annoyed by changes they've made. Talk to a real Tolkien autist and what they are doing is 10 times worse than what Disney did to Star Wars. It's like they rewrote the Gospel so that Judas was a misunderstood trans woman. It's sacrilegious what Amazon is doing in their eyes and Jackson's movies are only simple annoyances to them.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >whyte pipo owe me views

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >they don't even have the rights to a proper book
    >we already know they've made major lore changes
    >costumes, previews, everything looks like shit
    >ugly short haired elves
    >giant corporation chasing the game of thrones audience
    >huge budget used on shit cgi
    >we already know how amazon cares about fantasy shows, see wheel of time disaster
    >another wave of shills, astroturfed "superfans" etc

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's got that squeaky clean digital look. All the costumes and sets look immaculately new too.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just a friendly reminder to all of you:
    This is a fantasy tale. It's all fantasy. There is no "European medieval history". It's not European, and it's most definitely not medieval.
    They can cast whatever race they want. They can introduce whatever skin tones and genders they want into the world.
    Because none of this is based on historical events.
    Because it's all made up.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Sports are fantasy as well.
      And just like a fantasy worlds rules, sports have rules.
      When you dont follow a rule in a sport, its a foul.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >A technical foul

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Thats the point and author wrote specifically how elves and dwarfs look and they just dont give a shit. They took his fantasy and replased it with their own.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Please quote Tolkien on how he described Dwarves.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      So you’re fine with Galadriel having a lightsaber then?
      It’s fantasy bro

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        So if Frodo suddenly went super sayian and flew up to Sauron's tower and kamehameha'd it you'd be alright with that yeah? It's just fiction bro

        Yes, yes it would.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          based and checked and

          So you’re fine with Galadriel having a lightsaber then?
          It’s fantasy bro

          So if Frodo suddenly went super sayian and flew up to Sauron's tower and kamehameha'd it you'd be alright with that yeah? It's just fiction bro

          BTFO

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Utter bullshit. Frick off, anti-White c**t.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      So if Frodo suddenly went super sayian and flew up to Sauron's tower and kamehameha'd it you'd be alright with that yeah? It's just fiction bro

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You will never be a woman.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It was made up by JRR Tolkien and he was autistically specific about the colouration of different peoples in middle earth, also he intentionally based his world on a primordial earth, where the geographic, cultural and ethnic makeup is chiefly based on North-West Europe. The North Sea Germano-Celtic world essentialy.

      So you see its much harder for you to make this kind of smug flippant argument about it 'all being fictional so you can do whatever you want' in a Tolkien based setting. Because Tolkiens work is like an alternative history; its so detailed and specific you could become a scholar in it as if you were a historian and therefore its very clear to fans when there are blatant anachronisms.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >medieval history
      >historical events
      Cool strawman bro. You sure are good at arguing against it. Don't forget to 41% yourself soon.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >There is no "European medieval history". It's not European, and it's most definitely not medieval.

      It's set in medieval times, elves are from european mythology, it makes no geographical sense having a bunch of blacks mixed with whites, did only half of he population evolve to be black under the same sun?
      The only blacks/arabs/asian that should exist in lotr is haradrim and easterlings

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Just a friendly reminder to all of you:
      >This is a fantasy tale. It's all fantasy. There is no "European medieval history". It's not European, and it's most definitely not medieval.
      >They can cast whatever race they want. They can introduce whatever skin tones and genders they want into the world.
      >Because none of this is based on historical events.
      >Because it's all made up.
      Yeah but a point for you here : even if it's fantasy, adding onto someone else's story for profit is always going to be looked down upon. If you're creating a story in a universe you do not get to dictate what you like and don't like about it. Another point no one wants to see diverse elves or dwarves, period.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Midwit: The Post

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I say we should put Shrek in it, and maybe Sam & Dean in their Chevy Impala. Oh, and let's put Doomguy in it for a real action scene. And every character from the Wire, even the dead ones, because then we get more blacks in it. And Mad Max, maybe even Naruto.

      Because, ultimately, it's all made up and doesn't matter and wasn't ever described by the author as a mythology for England set thousands of years ago. You fricking pleb.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i dont care, i dont want to look at Black folk

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      > They can cast whatever race they want. They can introduce whatever skin tones and genders they want into the world.
      They CANT, because they didn't create the fantasy world, Tolkien did, and they are purposefully changing his characters to fit their Black person worshipping agenda
      Plus dwarves and elves are not made up creatures, they are part of european mythology.

      One of my favorite fantasy books is stormlight archive, and most characters have tanned skin and asiatic eyes, and nobody gives a shit because that's the setting

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >dwarves and elves are not made up creatures, they are part of european mythology
        >mythology
        So... made up?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Not made up by the show's creators
          You cant have Black person elves because elves arent Black folk according to mythology

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            So it's a case of who wrote it first?
            So explain to me then why people in this very thread that are so adamant on not having POC and women as characters their fantasy story are the very same people that believe Jesus is the son of God and that Christianity is the religion of God. Because, by your logic of course, that would make the Torah one true book that cannot be deviated from as it is the first of the Abrahamic religions no?
            Therefore anything that disputes or contradicts the Torah cannot be true or should even be believed.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >This is a fantasy tale
      Yeah, I heard a similar argument during the shitstorm around Mary Queen of Scots
      The female director openly claimed that she can replace historical figures with africans and asians, because it is a "costume movie" and not a documentary

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >bro just ignore the will of Tolkien who overtly stated he wanted to build a mythology for ethnic Englishmen specifically and overtly designed all of his characters around said theme

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You give off incel vibes.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not nearly as much incel vibes as I give off. Also quick question. What is the maximum size should I cube Paneer? I've seen some videos where they're no larger than an inch on all sides, but I think that is too small for the dish I'm making.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

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    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Shalom rabbi

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What the fricking frick are you talking about. Tolkien specifically said its supposed to be a mythological history of England for the English people.

      This isn't some fricking "sword of shannara" or Dungeons and Dragons type story. This thing for many people, and especially the English, falls more into the category of a religious text.

      For example most of us looking at this are doing so in the exact same way a Muslim would look at an adaption of the founding of Islam where Muhammad is played by a black lesbian. I'm not saying someone is going to take the showrunners out into the desert and behead them on live camera for this, but I doubt many people would be upset if it happened.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Before I do, can you explain why people who define themselves as anti-capitalist leftists spend so much time defending big capital? You are literally simping for the richest man in the world.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Black folk are not a small problem, OP

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The race of the actors is below most Tolkien fans complaints about this show. It's just being spun that way to distract from the tremendous amount of other problems the show has.

    • 2 years ago
      Black anon

      In America we are.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Don't be modest. 12% of the population committing more than half of the violent crime? Blacks have an effect greater than their numbers suggest.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I don't get why the comeback to these stats is to just repeat them in a funny voice. That's how I've seen lefties react to them anyway

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Disregarding her murdering 20 children in the last month, why shouldn't she be our nanny?

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Diversity casting in fantasy = shit. Every time no exceptions.
    And you're the one racebaiting.
    As I predicted you would.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Stop fricking shilling you fricking stupid twat

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    From a legal standpoint, I don't think they are allowed to use this design for a Balrog. This show is not allowed to be associated with the six Jackson movies' original designs or characters as they are meant to be separate from Tolkien's original writings to a meticulous degree and having that passed down through New Line Cinema, Turner then WB through acquisitions over the years does not allow Amazon to use this design unless that's where the 1 billion dollars went to.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine blowing a shitload of money to use a character likeness that isn't even supposed to exist in the time period you chose to set your story

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They must've worked a deal.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    A gigantic c**t corporation demonstrated by action that they thought LoTR a “brand”.
    There isn’t a single part of that which is not detestable.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I just hate the way they put Black folk everywhere or overepresent them for the sake of their obsession of diversity

    Its ridiculous

    • 2 years ago
      Black anon

      I love it, hope it never ends.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        some men just want to see the world burn lol

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >excluding why it's shit can you explain why it's shit

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's fan-fiction. The whole thing just feels dirty and disrespectful.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    At 2:18-2:20 in the new trailer there is literally White orcs in broad daylight fighting a Black elf, insanely heavy handed israelitery in LOTR of all places.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >disregarding the exact reasons that this show is hated, can you explain why exactly this show is so hated before its even released?

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It was foretold and meme'd into reality. Meme magic is too strong

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I would far more enjoy a ghetto blacksploitation Lord of the Rings than corporate diversity Amazon lord of the rings

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I would far more enjoy a ghetto blacksploitation Lord of the Rings than corporate diversity Amazon lord of the rings

      If they gave LotR the Romeo+Juliet treatment, it could be unironically kino

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I would fully support refugees if they were only hot women

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cause nobody wanted it, knowing every other fantasy books serie that got adapted in a tv/streaming drama turned out to be shit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Japanese anime adaptations are usually fine. Gedo Senki actually went ahead and made Earthsea less black.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Is it a real girl or is it a ladyboy with big breasts?
    Either or, I frick it

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The actors are almost all ugly.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >female desrf without beard
    it was doomed from the start

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The hair and makeup department has done a decent job with the orcs, but a shockingly bad job with everything else
    >short bobbed hairstyles and buzz cuts on elves in a time before electric razors
    >Numenorean royalty with beards
    >Dwarven women without beards
    The show plays havoc with the lore, compressing to an insane degree
    >Isildur has already been born before the reemergence of Sauron, and the forging of the rings of power, meaning the centuries-long span of the will be compressed into a single human lifetime
    >Elrond and Galadriel's roles in the 2nd age have essentially been inverted, With Elrond as the aspiring political leader and Galadriel as the leader of warriors.
    >Celebrimbor looks like a middle aged man when he is younger than Galadriel, and is in fact the son of her first cousin.
    >Hobbits, sorry "harfoots" are already in their wandering days in the second age, which is a compression from the third age
    >Halfling folk are involved in the story of the rings of power at all, when it was significant that they had been absent from the great events and deeds of the world until the late 3rd age
    >Meteor man is nothing. If he's Gandalf, he's too early, as he's supposed to arrive in the 3rd age, if he's Sauron, there's no reason for him to reach Middle Earth on a meteor, he'd already be there. No matter what, he's fanfiction.
    >If the pattern of introducing elements from the 3rd age too early continues the way it seems to, that balrog at the end of the trailer is probably Durin's Bane, meaning the course of events of Sauron's war to claim the rings will be thrown off as well.
    And on top of all this, the dialogue is incredibly generic. Not worthy of the linguist who originated the world. By all means, feel free to add anything I missed.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      where is Gil-galad during all this? Shouldn't he be the one doing everything Galadriel is?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        was Gil-galad ever described as a rebellious amazon? I think not. Sit down sweetie

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Meteor man is nothing. If he's Gandalf, he's too early, as he's supposed to arrive in the 3rd age, if he's Sauron, there's no reason for him to reach Middle Earth on a meteor, he'd already be there.
      Meteor man is Morgoth, back from the outer void. Screencap this post.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    someone should make adaptations of traditional african mythological stories and unceremoniously give all the roles to white people. I would love to see the salt

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The same problem with every movies/series lately

    >10 unnecessary female/minority characters.

    They’re not making a show to be enjoyed they’re making a show to be inclusive which will always fail.

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >elf with a fade
    Don't reply to this shill thread. Add herbs.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    A small but very loud minority of underage/manchild incel racists who hasnt read any Tolkien book at all. They speedwatched the movies and now think they are experts.
    They are basically dumb clowns who are desperate for attention, because they only get beating in the real world. Everything the tv show has shown so far was 100% accurate.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No (You) for you!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Can't wait until they have a movie where they cast Vishnu and Shiva as Black folk, and they have half hearted poo's seething out of their minds while they're forced to shill for their bullshit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Tolkien would have never allowed this fricking lefties, you are clowns desperate for attention

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Everything the tv show has shown so far was 100% accurate.
      I know this is bait, but that is 100% false.
      For one thing, there is no mention of galadriel riding, fighting or even doing shit in the books.
      I dont even think female dwarves were mentioned apart from that beard shit.
      The only nigs are the actual orcs, not the good guys - they are all white. And race-mixed people are weaker than pure bloods (legit fax).

      I dont know why the frick they didnt just divide up the silmarillion and the 1st and 2nd age into short stories about the spectacular shit that happened. No, they just compress an entire age into one season and just add Real Housewife Kardashian drama moronation into it. Make up shit that didnt happen and just being annoying homosexuals about Canon.
      I really dont get this at all, its like they're making it out of spite just to piss off people who enjoy it.
      Its like making a round lego movie.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Orcs are supposed to be closer to Mongols, they're even described as having sallow skin and slant eyes.

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the relentless shilling pisses me off

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Disregarding the whole raping/molesting children thing, can you explain why exactly pedophiles are so hated?

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Aside from the reason it's hated why is it hated?
    It's a Black person elf, idiot. What the frick else am I going to say. It's a Black person elf - look at the big baboon nose, oh god and the dwarf. Frick you.

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Disregarding the reason why people hate modern soulless products that only care about maximizing profits and demoralising whites can you tell me why people hate it?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The fact that the recent new Jurassic World movie full nostalgia throwbacks with the actors from the First Jurassic Park has a scene that is a callback to couples making love in open cinemas except it's with black mans and white womans really shows that it's nothing but endless propaganda made to subvert the past and brainwash the modern folks

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's clear the showrunners don't care about the property. When told this, their response is to insult their audience and get a bunch of black zoomers to talk about how awesome it is

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Even the whites are miscast they only have the rights to the most boring basic shit apendicies it's Gonna be the worst show of the decade

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Here is the thing... Tolkien wrote precious little about the second age so except for a few key historical events whose point was mostly to set up LOTR`s main story (like the fall of Numenor, the forging of the rings or the last alliance) this show is going to be purely original content/ filler and as so it likes any kind of value for the canon. Not the first time something like this happens though, those shadow of games (and actually most LOTR satellite media) are always shitting on the lore so that`s nothing special. In any case my point is the whole thing only uses Tolkien`s work as a frame of reference for original content. I don`t know about other fans but i, plain simply, have no interest on that. I guess that when it comes to adaptations fans of the original source material always see themselves as the target audience thinking "hey, i helped grow this IP, it should be FOR ME" but that`s not really how that works.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If he wrote precious little about the second age it's probably because there was precious little to write about. History has a few lulls in it where interesting things just don't happen. That's likely why he didn't bother, he wanted some periods of relative peace to exist. Considering the spending they're doing on it amazon is definitely hoping to recapture all of the audience of the other properties though for anyone who actually cares about LotR I can't see why they would bother. Keep faithful to the original vision or don't bother.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I agree. Which is why i don`t see the point. There is no value in there for those looking for characters or story. Maybe there is value for those that don`t care for LOTR at all or for those looking to watch some cool VFX.

        Tolkien is not just an "IP" you humongous shithead.

        I know man but it sure is treated that way. Everything is these days. We live in an age not of significant or meaningful stories but of content.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Tolkien is not just an "IP" you humongous shithead.

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine if Peter Jackson did his best to hype up his adaptation by constantly talking about how he’s going to “fix” and “modernise”, and it’s biggest advocates were people who weren’t Tolkien fans and knew nothing about it

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    > amazon
    > writing new middle earth lore
    how anyone can have any expectations for this is beyond me. it's gonna be your typical fantasy tv show with all that entails, but with higher budget

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Tolkien was a complete one of a kind, the sort of writer/thinker who crops up every century or two. His legendarium is the product of the specifics of his own unique life and mind and will never be replicated.
      Some ragtag committee of young American screenwriters are categorically NOT going to produce anything of any value, politics or no, and the very attempt to do this is offensive and a symbol of everything shit and hubristic about our modern world, simple as.

      I honestly can't think of a worse company to write an adaptation of Tolkien's work than Amazon.
      They don't understand it and would actively fight against it if they did. Even the Mouse would be a better option.

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The entire marketing campaign is just "KILL WYPEEPO" how the frick is this supposed to be Lord of the rings or entertainment at all?

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Tolkien was a complete one of a kind, the sort of writer/thinker who crops up every century or two. His legendarium is the product of the specifics of his own unique life and mind and will never be replicated.
    Some ragtag committee of young American screenwriters are categorically NOT going to produce anything of any value, politics or no, and the very attempt to do this is offensive and a symbol of everything shit and hubristic about our modern world, simple as.

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Part 1

    Part 2

    Part 3

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Disregarding the gender/race baiting, can you explain why exactly this show is so hated before its even released?
    It was created because Bezos wanted prime to have its own GoT. There was never any intention to make a good show. They're just going to shove elements from lotr into their little formula and collect their payout. The soulless art and boring trailers confirm it.

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >WoT
    >Witcher
    We've been down this road before and it always ends in disaster.
    Remember to cancel your prime subscription, friends.

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Let’s be honest OP it’s because the vast majority of Cinemaphile is a tragic mix of autistic and racist

    There’s a narrow gap in media that could satisfy this breed of “human” and coming here for anything other than shitposting about Stannis is a waste of your time

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Unfortunately Cinemaphile is sadly the last bastion of free speech on the net, these guys clearly not want to make a good story
      They want the net to approve the making everything and convert everything into minorities, so they can control and serve them completely like robots

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        "Only 4chin is free, we're the last hope of humanity"
        Frick you, your mods are just too lazy to moderate or actively complicit in spreading nazis talking points
        https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/m7aap8/the-man-who-helped-turn-Cinemaphile-into-the-internets-racist-engine
        Cinemaphile is not the Internet quirky hero, Cinemaphile is a guy selling Der Sturmer dressed as a clown

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I never said Cinemaphile is a hero and that humanity has a chance gay, i just said this is the last place people can say what they want without having their posts deleted well until reddiscord moderators step in
          I know that hating black people because of their appearance alone is not good of a motivation but if the characters were forced and do not contribute anything good to the story or end up retconning everything decent a series was, the dislike makes sense and should not be silenced

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Cinemaphile is the only place somebody can say just about anything they want to and suffer no consequences for it.
          Anywhere else bans or silences you the moment you step outside the line of acceptable behaviour as dictated by corporate america and its laws.
          As sad as it is, this is the only place left.
          The only place people can truly be who they are and think what they believe without restriction from social conditioning

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          you will never be a woman, commie

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >we've got leaked logs from jannies, we won't show them to you but here's what they said
          okay, vice

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because we know they don't give a shit about Middle-earth. The gender/race baiting is entirely a symptom of them not caring, they clearly have no idea what the aesthetic is.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Oh frick off.

      The Peter Jackson films didn't give a shit about the aesthetic.

      Everyone's in plate armour, which doesn't exist in Tolkien's world. Aragorn has fricking facial hair despite being Numenorian. Frodo is the same age as the other Hobbits, despite being twenty years older. The Uruk Hai are mutants hatched out of the ground. They're led by some guy with an Ariana Grande haircut and an American accent. The Balrog has wings and is a literal Godzilla sized demon. Elrond is noticeably older than his fricking mother in law, Galadriel. He's also angry and miserable. Legolas has fricking blonde hair. Christopher Tolkien despised these films.

      The whole thing is different when you get this anal. It's Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings. The show is Payne and McKay's. Neither are Tolkien's. If you expected something else, you're fricked in the head. There's no point acting surprised or spending your time complaining. Just don't watch. Touch grass instead.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >The Peter Jackson films didn't give a shit about the aesthetic.
        You have no clue what you're talking about. They went out of their way to have specific themes and motifs for each culture, hand made almost every prop with details that would never get shown on screen, had two guys working constantly on cutting rings to make chainmail, actually forged the weapons, and told the production teams that they were aiming for this to feel historical rather than fantasy. Jackson knew exactly what the aesthetic was and he got it nearly perfect because he genuinely loved the books.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I like Jackson's movies, but they're their own aesthetic, not Tolkien's.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They're as close to Tolkien as you can get without your eyes getting wet.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Tell that to his Son and collaborator, Christopher.

              It's okay to like the films but know they're not what Tolkien would have wanted. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette.

              Go back and read the books. Even Legolas' hair is wrong. Only the house of Finrod was blonde, as per the appendices.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Even Legolas' hair is wrong. Only the house of Finrod was blonde, as per the appendices.
                Thranduil is described as have blonde hair and wasn't from Finrod's house, either. So I guess you're disagreeing with Tolkien, then, which is funny since you think you can talk for him. Frick off, Radh.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You're wrong. Plate armour doesn't exist in Lord of the Rings. All those things I listed are true. Read the books.

          The Lord of the Rings films are well made, but they're not the aesthetics Tolkien intended.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Read the books.
            Dismissed, you arrogant, patronising little c**t.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Bit embarrassed at being called out, eh? You don't know your shit if you're saying Jackson's LOTR captured the aesthetics of Tolkien's vision. Why the frick is Frodo played by a literal teenager? Why the frick are the Wargs giant hyaena monsters? Why did Jackson think it was a good idea to make the Oliphaunts a literal species of monster elephant? Where's the Mediterranean/Byzantine influence in Gondor? Tolkien literally illustrated what the crown of Elessar looked like, and it was Egyptian as frick, so what's the shit we get in the film?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Jackson's LOTR captured the aesthetics of Tolkien's vision.
                Not him. Never read the book, tried to watch Jackson movies. It's a dreadful mess. Made me completely disinterested in LOTR. Why are morons praising this hack? The films are awful.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You do you, guy.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Plate armour doesn't exist in Lord of the Rings
            Boromir shoulder armor is described in books, which suggests there was plate armor at least in Gondor

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm tired of having ugly weirdos forced down my throat at every opportunity
    If I wanted to look at some disgusting piece of shit I'd buy a mirror

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Unfortunately the trailer doesn't look so good as shots posted previously. With the only one exception, she fits perfectly in the scene from the trailer.

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Ignoring the things that objectively ruin it, why do you think its bad?
    Are you fricking moronic?

    Its like saying 'Disregarding the shitty fight scenes, why do you think Dragon Ball GT is bad?'

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The manner in which it's being marketed here annoys me enough to not want to watch it.

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Sauce/JAV code, I beg you

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >He can't reverse image search

  65. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No reason for it to be full of Black folk.
    Will we ever see an all white Wakanda?

  66. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Very simple rational reasons actually:
    >very few established franchises have been adapted into TV or Movies properly. (Not commercially unsuccessful necessarily, but that's hard to tell with streaming services. Some people use amazon prime purely for free shipping for example)
    >the common denominator which resulted in lukewarm/negative reception was a bad script
    >most other franchises had basically a full storyline waiting to be adapted and twisted. I.e. Halo is the most recent example. This should be an easy task for a screenwriter.
    >despite having plenty of source material and beloved stories available, TV writers end up telling different stories that are often times worse or even batshit insane compared to the original stories.
    >The source material on which Rings of Power is based on does not offer a story that is easy to adapt into a TV show compared to those franchises. Writers will need to do a lot of creative work to create a entertaining story.

    TL;DR: All indicators point to Rings of Power having an abysmal story and dialogue. Low quality costumes (spandex armor and shirts) do little to alleviate those concerns.

  67. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >How far into the darkness would you go to protect the things you care about the most?
    This is the tagline they're using to describe the plot. If that doesn't tell you everything about how bad this is going to be, you've got no hope.

  68. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Stay mad chuds

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      what's this supposed to mean? they're popular therefore they're great?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this literally shows how astroturfed and fake and gay any excitement is.

      How can people rate a show that is literally not out yet? It could turn out to be a turd you know? And if it does we're supposed to look at a timeline of reviews while some c**t says "clearly this is reviewbombing, Rings of Power was even in the top ten shows prior to being released"
      Sadly people are to stupid this tactic will work 100%.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >How can people rate a show that is literally not out yet?
        Are you moronic? The Rings of Power has no rating there, use your eyes.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Let me rephrase: What is an unreleased show doing in a "most popular shows" list? On what evidence is Rings of Power believed to be "no 5 most popular show?" If I tweet the appropriate hashtag will it be no 1? Is it the number of shill threads on Cinemaphile? Are we counting the trailer views on youtube or what? Or the number of magazine covers with the actors on them?

          Every other show on that list obviously doesn't have the benefit of being the "upcoming" thing, and we've seen the show, so we actually know if its shit or not.

          People are selling the sizzle not the steak here.

  69. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because of the disgusting Black folk you moron

  70. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It’s literally fan fiction

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'd have more respect if they admit that it is just a fanfiction interpretation of the second age. Instead of trying to bend twist and backflip through so many logical hoops to justify their BS.

  71. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Disregarding the gender/race baiting
    This is not a fricking book, it's a visual medium. How can you disregard the visuals. Other than that, who wants to watch a pozzed series about tronk 4/10 womny knight and womyn kang while the male are just homosexuals in the background or damsels in distress?

  72. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Good luck convincing all the tiktok brain burned kids and fighting a society that knows everything about you and can send armies in front of your house

  73. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Speaking as someone who has read nearly every word Tolkien ever wrote, including all the Histories of Middle-earth books, I never had any hope this semitic abortion of a show would be anything but the most risible of fanfics; and I genuinely look forward to hate-watching it and laughing at it with you fellows.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Tolkien wrote more than just LOTR, Hobbit, and Silmarillion
      Damn, I honestly never knew.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Seriously? He's written and translated tonnes, both fiction and non-fiction.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Man, I wish I could take a photo of my Tolkien collection but it's too scattered.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Find one shelf to bring them all and in the shade bind them.

  74. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why would i not hate a generic streaming service original, it makes no sense not to hate it

  75. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  76. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    does anyone actually believe amazon can go up against this?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. Amazon thinks if it just throws money and a bunch of sheltered lefty "screenwriters" hired through nepotism at it, they'll succeed. Even without all the shitty trash politics involved and stupid modern sensibilities, they will never achieve what Jackson achieved with his team. What Jackson did was take something everyone believed would fail, on a stupidly low budget, and through sheer hardwork and passion for the project, produced the greatest fantasy film series that will likely ever exist. It has soul, it has devotion, it has a cast who were as dedicated to bringing life to the vision as they were at enjoying themselves while they did it. The kino of the Behind the Scenes on the extended editions shows exactly why the films succeeded (and why the Hobbit films didn't).

      There's absolutely no hope for Amazon, it truly is soul vs soulless.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Let's not forget that despite how well he did, people who've read the books STILL to this day argue about how annoyed they are with some of the changes. Heck everyone including those who never touched the books argree that the elves at Helms Deep was rubbish. Originally freaking Arwen was filmed doing fighting there, but enough people cared to draw a line on that so it got cut avoiding disaster.
        If Amazon filmd Helms deep, not only would Arwen would of turned up, it would be with only < 7 bodyguards, of whom most of would be women who look like they haven't lifted a heavy bag of shopping in their lives before, let alone hardened warriors. Then Arwen would be the one that actually turned the tide of the battle and Erkenbrand/Éomer would of only been there to scare off reinforcements that were coming afterwards.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          no arwen would hold out her hand and shout with blood coming out of her nose as orcs fly away from her in slow motion

  77. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Its glorified overexpensive fanfic. I hate it because of the audacity of these homosexuals, they pretend like it isn't fanfic, and place it on the same level as Tolkein? Frick off.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Who isn't saying that? That's what any adaptation is.

      It's like you've grown up in some alternate universe where there's no western culture of reinterpreting stuff for stage and cinema. Were you born yesterday?

  78. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's not just that the shoehorned diversity is obnoxious in of itself, it's just that there's been such a long history of American and Bong writers using it as a substitute for good writing and then crying bigotry when someone reasonably criticises their garbage

  79. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Just a friendly reminder to all of you:
      >This is a fantasy tale. It's all fantasy. There is no "European medieval history". It's not European, and it's most definitely not medieval.
      >They can cast whatever race they want. They can introduce whatever skin tones and genders they want into the world.
      >Because none of this is based on historical events.
      >Because it's all made up.

      When babies are born they know nothing like empty vessels, being empty means that they can be filled with whatever their master wants and driven to do, think and say what they want

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      These subhumans should be shot

      "Only 4chin is free, we're the last hope of humanity"
      Frick you, your mods are just too lazy to moderate or actively complicit in spreading nazis talking points
      https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/m7aap8/the-man-who-helped-turn-Cinemaphile-into-the-internets-racist-engine
      Cinemaphile is not the Internet quirky hero, Cinemaphile is a guy selling Der Sturmer dressed as a clown

      have a nice day homosexual

  80. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't look like lord of the rings and normies have been redpilled about soulless cash grabs that rape the source material

  81. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Just a friendly reminder to all of you:
    >This is a fantasy tale. It's all fantasy. There is no "European medieval history". It's not European, and it's most definitely not medieval.
    >They can cast whatever race they want. They can introduce whatever skin tones and genders they want into the world.
    >Because none of this is based on historical events.
    >Because it's all made up.

  82. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because amazon makes cheap lazy garbage. So far everything they have shown just feels like the same stupid cliche 2018 stronk female cookie cutter bullshit as every other movie or show that comes out now. It's already boring and played out, before they even release it

    Also they flat out shit on established lore, because they're too fricking lazy and stupid to respect it, and they are too proud to admit they can't fricking do it. So instead they act like abrasive butthole about the whole thing. They put out press release after press release about how their shit doesnt stink, and YOU are the problem for not sticking your nose into their big steaming pile.

    They feel like they are just entitled to profit and success based off the fact that Jackson's trilogy was a fricking masterpiece. They just fricking expect this to be a major tent pole for their streaming service. They desperately want the brand and name recognition, but they don't want any of the people who actually liked and supported it. And they are too fricking stupid to understand that a brand is only as valuable as the fans that fricking carries it

    TLDR, Frick Bezos

  83. 2 years ago
    Small kitchens

    Where do I find job postings for these shill jobs? Must be everywhere if there are so many shills

  84. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Everything Jeff Bezos touches turns to shit. Funny to see leftists sucking Amazon's dick to own le chuds.

  85. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Jackson already ruined the brand years ago, Amazon is a mega-corp, nobody of repute is involved in this.

  86. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The design on the left looks like dogshit regardless of race, the gold in her hair looks like dandruff and the gold on her fingers looks like cheeto dust, two very real, and unpleasant things. It's a total miss for a fantasy universe and I have no idea how anyone approved that design other than no one wanted to speak up because she's a heckin valid blaqq queen.

  87. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    is she wearing triforce?

  88. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just not interested in watching something that has black people in it, especially ones that are so grotesquely ugly.

  89. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Where do you even begin? It looks cheap despite the money invested in it, it has Black folk in it despite no Black folk in Tolkien's works, and judging from the trailers it obviously leans around feminism and modern day politics a little too much for my liking. After all, fantasy is meant as an escapism, not to be bombarded with our dull reality and "social issues".

    On top of it all, it's a fricking fiction and it will have barely anything to do with LOTR. And who are the successful writers that are going to write this new story? Some Amazon diversity hire rejects who you've never even heard of.

  90. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Amazon wasted shitloads of money on a series NOBODY asked for, not even the most obsessed Tolkien fans. And they could have funded Hannibal S4 instead.

  91. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hate Black folk. I want to see them eradicated from the face of the planet.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Your offspring, assuming you ever come close enough to a woman to lose your virginity, is going to be penetrated by a black male. Whether you like it or not, the future of your bloodline is African and there's nothing you can do to stop it. All you can do is watch as your daughter or son gets their holes demolished by the infamous BBC.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nuclear radiations will make short work of them

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nice amerimongrel fantasy you got there, subhuman homosexual.
        Every single one of your ilk will be eradicated by the ruthless hands of the chinks as amerimongrel empire collapses. Black folk will be hunted for sport like the feral animals they are. Liberal world order has no future.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >the mutt is delusional again
        Is it something in the water of burgerland that causes this?

  92. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    All americans, israelites and Black folk should be exterminated. Every single one of them should be put to death. Bash in their heads with bricks, shoot up their children, strangle their grandparents with their bedsheets.
    Kill all americans.
    Kill all israelites.
    Kill all Black folk.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Let's kill whites too while we're at it. Every racial minority on Earth should be nuked in fact tbqh because they have proven time and again throughout all of human history that they are nothing but a shit stain in society.
      The victor shall come out on top, as the gods will it.

  93. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Turns out, despite what they say publiclly - people don't like Black folk

  94. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They are literally trolling /misc/ at this point, I think it's hilarious

  95. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >God grants us free will
    >God grants special favors to world leaders, altering The course of humanity on a global level
    Choose one.

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