Yes
Every 2nd reply in a reddit advice thread contains the word "therapy".
I dated one too and her every solution to feeling down in the dumps was " I better go see my councillor " and her war vet dad used to give her some of his PTSD anxiety medication. I honestly think Americans are controlled by chemicals and brainwashing, its scary
>I’ve been seeing once since January and never was offered drugs
LMFAO then whats the point homie? you need to pay some c**t to tell you that you're a good little boy?
an outside perspective which is simultaneously a mirror and toolset to help you dig at the places of your life and psyche which are productive to excavate and examine and put back into place. people behave like therapy is being sold as a product but it literally is just 'counseling'. It's all you at the end of a day, a good therapist is nothing more than someone who helps you find your toolset and shows you where to get to work.
2 years ago
Anonymous
nice buzzwords >toolset
this is why people can't take this shit seriously lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
is there just one incredibly annoying teenage troll in this thread of are there a big bunch of you arrested development cases working in tandem?
2 years ago
Anonymous
A set of tools means nothing?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>toolset is a buzzword now
ISHYGDDT
>you need a mental "toolset" to get your shit sraight
its called thinking and then acting, mate
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah that’s a good way to say it too. You can talk to someone else and think about what they say and make decisions on how to act. Thinking includes evaluating if they’re right or not on something, you don’t have to do everything someone says, but you could figure out something new from it. That’s what anon means
2 years ago
Anonymous
>everyone is stupid except me
people not working thru their trauma leads to children like you being brought up
2 years ago
Anonymous
>people who need to pay some israelite to tell them not to be such a fricking loser are the brave and clever ones
woah...
2 years ago
Anonymous
based on your behavior in this thread, you desperately need a israelite to tell you to not be a loser. good luck with your life tho
2 years ago
Anonymous
>good luck with your life tho
seems like you're the one who needs it mate lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not him but you live with your parents. You have no room to talk.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you're not getting treated for schizophrenia are you, anon?
2 years ago
Anonymous
My life is fine though. Your behavior is extremely typical of a miserable person. Feeling the need win internet arguments and look down on people constantly are not things mentally healthy people do.
2 years ago
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>sharts in the mart
2 years ago
Anonymous
To be fair you really don’t know what his life is like based on his revulsion to a form of professional counseling
Bang on. You can see how useless it was. Your generally supposed to aim for Therapy to be for a short period where you have set out some goals in terms of your welfare and are looking to achieve them. Good therapy focuses on developing skills and tools to help you function better in the present and you have to practise them yourself. It's not supposed to be an endless deep dive into your past or a brothel for your ego.
Have you seen the situation lately? It's either lock yourself down with some shrink hack or get really high and carry on as usual. I prefer the latter. You get more done that way, less crying more work. Slow, high work. But work.
Plus everyone pushes each other into it. No one talks about things anymore, no one deals with things internally. If someone has a problem you shuffle them off to a doctor you know so you can carry on with your busy day of snorting pills off the coffee table and watching the same 5 shows.
Dealing with things internally means doing it in-house and not sending them off to Dr. Shekelberg, not bottling it all up you fricking troglodyte moron. Context clues.
Mental healthcare is important, but the way people immediately associate it with therapy, psychiatry or any private healthcare consultancy is just not right. If anything, its a further symptom of the hyper-privatisation of the medical industry in the US.
I'm 28 >never been to a therapist >not diagnosed with anything >never been prescribed a medication >never tried drugs >never tried alcohol >never been to a wedding >had sex with two girls ever
How are my stats bros
Americans live in a dystopian hedonistic hellhole, the only way for them not to kill themselves is to stuff their mouth with colorful pills and speak for hours about their own egoistical self, only solace those goblins can get.
they are right that mental health is important but is so wrong in how to go about improving it. The western way is the single mom way which is spoiling you and making you believe the world is nice and full of flowers and everyone can be a celebrity if thye just wish for it hard enough. This is so worng in so many levels and can make a kid very angry when they find out they can just flip burgers.
It sounds corny and have been repeated a million times but make them appreciate the little things and be grateful. This cannot be said by the way, you can't just tell someone to appreciate this and they will immediately feel the same way. As a parent you have to show them that what you do, no matter how small, matters and stop looking up celebrities and the top 1%. Hopefully it rubs on to them and the outside programming from the israelites won't affect them. In the worst case if they just end up flipping burgers they can still be happy. The irony is if they end up thinking what they do matters and have a go at it with a full heart will actually help them improve on it and maybe he'll be branch manger someday or be brave enough to venture to other fields.
>The current ruling ontology denies any possibility of a social causation of mental illness. The chemico-biologization of mental illness is of course strictly commensurate with its depoliticization. Considering mental illness an individual chemico-biological problem has enormous benefits for capitalism. First, it reinforces Capital’s drive towards atomistic individualization (you are sick because of your brain chemistry). Second, it provides an enormously lucrative market in which multinational pharmaceutical companies can peddle their pharmaceuticals (we can cure you with our SSRIs). It goes without saying that all mental illnesses are neurologically instantiated, but this says nothing about their causation. If it is true, for instance, that depression is constituted by low serotonin levels, what still needs to be explained is why particular individuals have low levels of serotonin. This requires a social and political explanation; and the task of repoliticizing mental illness is an urgent one if the left wants to challenge capitalist realism.
because normalizing "mental health" is both incredibly lucrative for the psychiatric and pharmaceutical industries and a convenient excuse for regular people on why they're garbage human beings
I went to counseling on and off for three years. It's free here in Europe. That has nothing to do with the story, just dabbing on the yanks. Anyway, I always found it irritating because they'd give me gay advice like "Hug a tree" (an actual piece of advice I got), or meditation, which I have nothing against I suppose, but I told them like 1000 times doesn't work for me. I'm not a koombya, let's all do drugs type of guy. So therapy/ counseling wasn't for me. Took me three years to figure that out though.
They did a bit of both if I'm honest, but again, after 3 years I just had to be honest and admit that it wasn't working. The thing I don't get about therapy/ counseling is why some people go for their entire life to it, and still feel like shit? It's some cult shit going on. It wasn't working for me, and I left. I don't get why more people don't do that.
Well, for some people, it's just a place to vent and seek approval that they are in control. It's wholly selfish if you're jot trying to address root causes and just moaning about issues caused by those root issues.
It helped me realize that my depression/anhedonia is biological and not situational. That fact gives me the courage to try more unconventional methods like ketamine.
Funny, I nearly did try micro dosing, but in the end I thought that relying on self medication would be several times worse than meds from an actual doctor. I just think having to be chemically altered to exist is a way worse scenario than just straight up depression/ anxiety. I could be wrong. No judgements if it's working for you.
I’m getting the ketamine from a doctor. >I just think having to be chemically altered to exist is a way worse scenario than just straight up depression/ anxiety.
Hard disagree. Getting chemically altered is how I got here in the first place, so I’m willing to alter my chemicals to get back to where I was two years ago.
>The thing I don't get about therapy/ counseling is why some people go for their entire life to it, and still feel like shit? It's some cult shit going on.
Church for atheists
They did a bit of both if I'm honest, but again, after 3 years I just had to be honest and admit that it wasn't working. The thing I don't get about therapy/ counseling is why some people go for their entire life to it, and still feel like shit? It's some cult shit going on. It wasn't working for me, and I left. I don't get why more people don't do that.
Its genuinely a sham. I know from the shit my ex's councillor told her to do that its all nonsense and actually counterproductive and out of the realms of reality.
a therapist told me literally to "pull myself together"
b***h im suicidal, have 0 motivation and im constantly fantasizing about ending things, if i could "pull myself together" i wouldnt be here in the first place
frick therapy, frick antidepressants, they only work for mild cases
>frick therapy, frick antidepressants, they only work for mild cases
Sounds like you just don't want to try anything because you think you know better.
Sounds like you had some very vapid surface level issues that were easily solved so now you think therapy is some wonder treatment and not just a waste of money
Nice non-retort homosexual.
Remember to take your numb numb drugs Dr Deandera DeShawn BA prescribed you
2 years ago
Anonymous
>/pol/
2 years ago
Anonymous
And he says we need therapy lmfao.
You're tilting at windmills, maybe you're schizo-typal and are seeing things patterns that don't exist?
My consultation is $300 btw plus tip
2 years ago
Anonymous
You’re the one saying it’s wrong to use a therapist to solve a surface issue. That doing so is weakness and some type of brainwashing? If it can work, why not do it and recommend it?
2 years ago
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Because if you have am IQ above 90 you van overcome it yourself. I know introspection and self awareness is a rarity on Cinemaphile but maybe try it some time instead of relying on some office mommy with a meme degree telling you you're a good boy for escort prices without the privilege of actually fricking the escort
2 years ago
Anonymous
Can you truly say you’ve solved all of your problems and don’t create more for yourself?
He’s saying that a ruthless aversion to therapy or counseling, to such an extent that your insult is ‘I bet you went to therapy to solve a simple problem in your life and it worked’, is a pointless simple problem you could probably ease with counseling
Not all, but she's pretty accurate.
You can meet a well read person give you the exact same advice, they are just intellectual masterbating themselves in the guise of helping people.
Does anyone else feel a level of numbness from holding everything in?
Something bad happened, sort of a final straw thing, and I felt a physical hardening in my chest and a mental switch going off. My empathy responses are fricked, I cry at dogs and cat videos, impoverished kids and all that women bait shit now too.
I used to go to this group therapy thing. There was a strong black business woman and a plumber joe in there. I for reference am a robot that cannot be salvaged. It was hilarious looking back how ill prepared the therapist lady, also a black woman, was to help me. All of her "strategies" involved coping with work, family and friends, of which I had none and she basically acted like I didn't exist after a point so I stopped going.
I'm American and no one in my family has ever seen a shrink. I don't know anybody who does. I think that shit is overrepresented in media because it's an entertaining and it serves as a useful storytelling premise.
I’m calling a substance abuse specialist cognitive behavioral therapist later today to deal with alcoholism smoking and constantly getting stoned, my gf encouraged me to. What can I expect? It’s a man at least
the only pragmatic way out of addictions is to find something you love more than the addiction which is why it just becomes a series of intense obsessions with new hobbies/subjects. to that end you should probably look at finding a new gf too.
I do draw and stuff and im excited to get back into it, when I do I do drink less. But I do have trouble setting myself to do it and really would prefer to always be drunk because it’s pretty frickin fun
if you're lucky at a point you'll naturally enjoy life more whilst sober because of the state of. attentiveness and things you can enjoy compared to being total monged out. that's why i think the main point and really only long-lasting solution of action is to slowly start re-arranging life around to that end so that maybe you'll get there in 10 years. No one pursuit or remedy is a cure because it all collapses again once your faith/interest/encouragement in that singular does. I think as long as you keep in mind it's a piecemeal process with no silver bullet then it's generally an upward trajectory and things can end up turning around quicker than anticipated, or at the very least the general interest in a substance can begin to wane so that you can examine what an enjoyable life sans being monged out could be
Yeah I still drink and smoke just about whenever I can, enough to warrant substance abuse counseling, but I was truly way worse and I’ve managed to keep a job and develop a relationship and buy a house and get better at being productive, it’s helped but i still prefer liquor and weed for leisure pretty much every day. But yes it shows me a big secret is to create a life around you you enjoy living in and staying busy in. I have to say it’s a damn shame because what set my gf off is the cigarettes. She was mostly fine with everything but I’m kind of getting the D.A.R.E. treatment from her for smoking cigarettes. It’s like damn that’s what bothers you?
nothing will make you more of a pariah by the general populace than ciggies these days.. the overreaction i'm sure isn't productive at all, in fact cigarettes are probably the most productive / best case addiction you could roll with.. i don't get the anti-smoking movement personally. stress kills and drives you to far worse things. ciggies ARE kind of a silver bullet to that one if it's a few a day.
but generally just being around a person/or people who are making your life worse and not better drives you to the pleasures of drugs, if they then in turn chastise you for that it's even worse! hope she can become someone who makes things better and if not ... ! Good luck with all of it
2 years ago
Anonymous
She makes my life pretty good most of the time, I abused substance more before I met her. What’s nice about my gf is she actually evaluates on her own if she’s been a bit much, and apologizes without being asked, blew my mind the first time she did it. Beyond that we do get along, she’s a bit lazy but we share some hobbies and plans and she works too. Needs to fricking consolidate her finances and payments though, I told her that.
What awful fricking advice. That's just a dry drunk. You get sober by learning coping skills and strategies for the negative feelings you are suppressing with drugs.
Problem is a lot of it is legitimate boredom. Yes I could meditate and use all these methods to calm a desire for stimulation or fun, but at the same time if I’m bored and alcohol or weed is fun then it’s not a very bad idea at all to get into something and make a night of it. So I agree with the other anon more, more options to commit to work when bored is better than using methods to tolerate boredom. As for being a ‘dry drunk’ when I decide to work on a project I pour a drink anyways and it usually sits there unsipped as I use my hands, or I drink it at about a third of the rate I would just playing a game or fricking around
Therapy is a scam, simple as', I went through it.
It does help your mental state to speak and vent, but it just makes you feel better temporarily, it solves no issue, and you're coming back to pay for more a week later. The average person cannot understand themselves, so an outsider has very little chance. The assumptions shrinks made were frankly laughable at times. Honestly, you're better off trying to actively fix your shit and just go through it, you'll save money.
Also, suffering is normal, you don't need a shrink everytime you feel bad, just analyse why you feel like shit and try to grow from it, it's a natural human feeling, an indication of something going wrong, just like physical pain.
Knock yourself out, as long as it's free.
If being constantly reminded that you need to pay in order to find someone to actively listen to your problems is a kink of yours.
I’m setting an insurance-covered appointment for the purposes of good faith with my gf and a hope an actual counseler would give counsel I would benefit from. Honestly I like the idea of having a free little vizier even if he’s full of shit half the time, though I’m prepared to have a little humility for productivity’s sake
>you don't need a shrink everytime you feel bad
see, i think this is a total misunderstanding of what depression is
the normal person gets left by their partner, is 2-4 weeks "depressed" and then gets over it
a really depressed person is someone whose normal state is numbness of which you rarely get out, either by being super sad or super happy
if you have this "oh my, im sad atm" for a few weeks, therapy/pills might rectify that
I understand what depression is 90% of the time ; acute boredom.
As for the remaining 10%, you don't know how resilient people can be, some people went through absolute heart-wrenching tragedies and still managed to find peace and happiness, it's all about self respect, self love and kindness to others, unironically.
No matter what you went through, you have the potential to be satisfied with your life.
not that guy but you presume too much
I don't have any emotions whatsoever, aside from fear and frustration, it isn't that I'm sad, it is that I simply do not (and can not) live the human experience.
Nothing in particular triggered this but I've been like this for many many years and for cases like mine there simply is no treatment
lol
you can't feel emotions = you're bored
how much will that be dr shekelberg?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Give you a simple explanation of what is the root cause of your issues for free >You don't need to take any medicine, just get your shit together >get called Dr Shekelberg
2 years ago
Anonymous
>some homosexual that doesn't know me acts like an armchair psych and "helps me"
you're a joke
2 years ago
Anonymous
In your own example it’s a professional psychologist properly telling you you’re normal and don’t need meds
2 years ago
Anonymous
i thought you couldn't feel anything? you sure seem to feel a lot of hate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he thinks you need to be sweating and red with rage to chat shit to some stranger on the internet
I'll amend my statement, I can aslo find things quite funny, lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Please diagnose me mental issues, I'm speciaaal
No homosexual, you're just bored because you spend your days in your room doing nothing, get real
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you're just bored because you spend your days in your room doing nothing, get real
holy projection
I'm fit and healthy and just draduated with a top notch degree
now pay $$$ to go cry to some israelite
you're the gay that needs to be given lables about how much of a b***h you are
2 years ago
Anonymous
>draduated with a top notch degree
lol
lmao even
2 years ago
Anonymous
>a typo >lol
the weakest defence on the internet
2 years ago
Anonymous
>try to brag about how smart you are >dont even proofread your posts
Yeah I’m fricking laughing at you. We all are. LMAO DUMB Black person HAHAHHA
2 years ago
Anonymous
>proof read on a random imageboard
oh boy
2 years ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah, you can tell your therapist how you defeated someone in a scholarly debate at a prestigious forum kek
2 years ago
Anonymous
>get BTFO >”heh actually i didnt really even care”
Cope you homosexual loser
2 years ago
Anonymous
>making a typo is getting BTFO
you're grasping now
2 years ago
Anonymous
>umm no u
Could you get any more pathetic?
2 years ago
Anonymous
could you? you utter loser
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no u
Every time. The mantra of the moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>says the guy getting therapy
glass houses and all that
2 years ago
Anonymous
could you be more of a puerile c**t?
2 years ago
Anonymous
What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little b***h? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the frick out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking dead, kiddo.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Get angry for the slightest thing on the internet like an insecure weak homosexual >Larps as a fit rich dude
Every time
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Larps as a fit rich dude
lol I never said I was rich (I'm not)
funny how mutts are offended by fit people though lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
Surely you're going to be rich with your top notch degree?
Also, I'm not even American
2 years ago
Anonymous
>being rich >in my shithole country
we'll see lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you have that job yet? Are you confident in your transition into the workplace
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm going to finish transitioning before I enter the workplace actually
2 years ago
Anonymous
That’s a diagnosis
2 years ago
Anonymous
man you’re so clueless about the matter, how about you stop talking you dumb shitter
See, that’s the outside perspective of a normie on the matter
the kind that says „just don’t be sad, go on a trip or smth, works for me!“
You’re so damn stupid you don’t even begin to grasp the concept
>People who are not a bunch of helpless lazy losers like me are stupid normies >Why are they so happy while I'm miserable? >Hold on, it's probably because I'm intellectually superior to them, despite every metric indicating otherwise >Yes, yes ! That's it!!
>Therapy is very rarely included in universal healthcare
it is in my country, but at the end of the day if you dont pay for it yourself you have to wait like 6-9months to actually have a place for therapy
and then there are a lot of shitty therapists, but you have to find that one out for yourself
Dentistry and shit like glasses is also not included often in universal healthcare but that doesn't make it not important or bullshit. It's not included because every single country with univeral healthcare limits and rations the shit out of it to keep costs down
I'm American and I've never taken ssris, state of mind altering drugs, or even drank a sip of alcohol. I've never been to a therapists office. I get sad sometimes, and sometimes i get happy about stuff. I have never felt the need to pay someone to listen to my problems just so they can tell me to take a pill that'll make me feel good good good all the time with no bad. That sounds honestly untrustworthy as frick and borderline criminal.
I just think that a lot of people are weak as frick mentally and good people who are vulnerable in a specific moment in their lives get fed to a machine that has no real regard for their well being in the slightest. They get so used to it they don't even know how to live without it. There's a weird for that i think. Addiction? Dependency? It's all fricked
Well for fricks sake anon maybe you’re not mentally ill, ever think about that?
i mean i like to think so. for the past ten years i've literally been peer pressured into thinking i was by people who didn't trust that there was absolutely NOTHING wrong with me. it's a weird feeling, but instantly washed away when you realize the people who are judging you for being actually normal are the very people taking like 15 pills a day just to get out of bed.
i dunno. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to most people that i genuinely think there isn't actually anything wrong with them other than therapists and doctors telling them that there is. it can't actually be that like 90% of people i talk to are that fricked up. it's gotta be some bullshit they're being fed.
I wanted to be a therapist in school, seems easy. Can you do it drunk? Sounds like it’s the same rabid accusing as we post on here, you mean I can do it to a person IRL from a big chair and they’ll pay me?
Maybe, though it’s funny he’s one of the few analysts who actually does the job and meets with clients, the rest of his team he has been trying to force to work but none of them will. They just signed up and don’t do case work
lmfao @ u if you think they'll do anything other than trying to lock you away.
therapists just throw out drugs to get normies back on their feet after they felt a little depressed for a few weeks
they won't actually help you bro, I almost guarantee you are unsalvageable
That’s just not true though. Like wtf you think suicide prevention means being institutionalized? You can’t be forced institutionalized except by a court after commuting a crime you dingbat, in America at least
NA gaygs need it so much more. Because they lives are stress packed. I mean imagine living like this. >worry about what you say to women >worry what you say to your kids and family >worry how to pay 6754588$ for rent >worry how to behave around homos >worry about geting canceled over some shit you typed or said in highschool or preschool >worry about Black folk >worry about your kids get kidnap at a parking lot comming from school >worry about randomly getting shoot at the KINOPLEX >worry about your kids getting shoot in school >all day eating propaganda from your local tv channel, then watching same propaganda but now its in your fav tv show or holly movie >dont cook just eat literal trash order up from some random places where your food is prepared by some dirty ass chinks indians niggs and so....... also your food is full with of hormones and fructose syrup >get randomly dismissed from job, literally 2 days later your homeless lul >shit relationship with your parents and family in general literally only see them on major holidays >random tornado hit your plastic house lul
Narcissists look to maximize attention to confirm their power and importance. The sort of attention doesn’t seem to matter. One would think that being ripped open verbally by your victims would be a downer for a narcissist, but it’s actually a plus. They’re always hard up for attention: any sort will do.
I tried going to a counselor. From my experience it's a meme. He spent probably 85% of our hour long meeting dominating the conversation. I kept trying to interject to tell him things that bother me but I could never butt in. I left feeling like nothing was accomplished that session. I went back the next week and the same thing happened. He would ask weird questions that seemed completely irrelevant and I didn't know what he was getting at. Every time i was able to tell him whats on my mind he would quickly gloss over it and then pivot the conversation in a different direction. Apart of me thought he was just trying to burn out the clock. I did this 2 more times so I saw him for a full month, and I didn't feel any better than when I started, in fact i felt worse. He had a way of making me feel like shit whenever I was able to interject and tell him about things that bothered me. It felt like such a waste of time. Luckily I didn't pay for it. That experience really turned me off of therapy or counseling tho. And it's shitty because sometimes I really do feel like I could use someone to talk to
I'm personally not convinced by therapy, but your therapist was moronic, that's definitely not how you're supposed to treat a patient.
The average shrink speaks very little and mostly listens
Well really the series is deeply psychological and focuses fully on psychological terms and analyses to explain and drive the action of the series. Melfi may be a dumb twat who can’t do the job she thinks she does, but all that shit about being in denial Pussy is a rat until it occurs to Tony in a dream, Tony destroying Tony B and B destroying himself over Tony’s unwillingness to share turf and power with his old friend, Junior and Feech and Phil all demanding respect and power through seniority, all of this stuff is directly psychological
But it’s nothing to do with therapy or the psychology industry why Tony was in denial Pussy was the rat, and could only figure it out in a dream. It was because Pussy was a long time loyal friend who was very much like an equal to Tony, and he had built this worldview that people like him would never rat, so he was blind to it when it was obvious. That’s not therapy or pills, that’s real human psychology, which does exist regardless of how people diagnose or meditate it. The show believes in real human psychology and generally a Jungian perspective of it, but is very skeptical of the industry and the people working it it.
I think what the show was actually displaying was that therapy is worthless without concrete and serious action. Tony's fundamental problem is that his mob lifestyle and the violence and deception it requires prevents him from forming any meaningful social bonds, fosters paranoia, and prevents him from controlling his worst impulses. Carmella had the same thing in miniature when she went to a psychiatrist and he told her that her life sucks because she's married to a mass murdering sociopath. Carmella acknowledged that in the moment but never acted on it.
You generally want to avoid pyschodynamic therapists like Melfi and get a CBT therapist if you're serious about recovery, and even then the majority of CBT therapists are incompetent. Therapy really can be fascinating and effective because some people really don't have any way of figuring out what's even bothering them and how to fix their own lives, but much of it is practiced by deluded wine aunts.
I have gone to premarriage counseling if thst counts. It was good, helped us get our worries on the table and communicate better.
I want to see a therapist but I am fearful that if I say I have suicidal thoughts theyll lock me away and force me to take medicine. Therefore I dont trust divolging any information to a therapist so it would be pointless.
no it is a psyop to normalise men who compromise every conceivable position in their own lives, if a woman is not listening or following your lead she is wanting to be a man.
The older I get the more I realize being an American means that I have no culture or soul. Our lives boil down to cars, foodstuffs (not even real food), Black person entertainment, and rampant medication.
We have nothing meaningful or of true purpose. We live in a cultural hellhole. We're bread and circus the country, but instead of bread it's a Little Debbie Cosmic Brownie.
Not American but it's pretty accurate, my psychiatrist is literally a top model on her free time, she doesn't want to medicate me and think talking with her is better.
I think she's in love, or she wants my 150 euros per session I dunno.
When I need therapy I just take mushrooms and talk with my cat.
Why, you don't think I'd actually go spend a lot of money just to talk to a person, do you?
Yes, americans being congenitally mentally ill is not a meme. Being genitally mutilated at birth probably doesn't help with their autistic development either.
You could call if ADD or an addictive personality, I just want to always get into something. When I start it can be hard to turn it off, so engaging work is often best
Lmao yeah so for every therapist out there I can likely find their rape blog? They’re not just wistful college grads selling some cheap talk they believe in, they’re actually all as bad as the absolute worst doctor you can name from history? Strongly doubt
Okay you Neanderthals you may talk all this shit, but aren’t you forgetting that psychiatrists will give you an endless supply of legal amphetamines and have your insurance pay for it?
Yes
Every 2nd reply in a reddit advice thread contains the word "therapy".
I dated one too and her every solution to feeling down in the dumps was " I better go see my councillor " and her war vet dad used to give her some of his PTSD anxiety medication. I honestly think Americans are controlled by chemicals and brainwashing, its scary
Amerishartmutts are not people sorry
I learned that the hard way
You can go to therapy without getting meds. I’ve been seeing once since January and never was offered drugs
>I’ve been seeing once since January and never was offered drugs
LMFAO then whats the point homie? you need to pay some c**t to tell you that you're a good little boy?
sounds like that's what you want with these puerile posts that sound like an angry little boy?
you are an actual braindead idiot holy shit
t. homosexual ass homies that can't even function without paying someone to pretend to care about their moronic, shit lives
>t. dumb Black person
>t.
So what do you actually gain from therapy?
an outside perspective which is simultaneously a mirror and toolset to help you dig at the places of your life and psyche which are productive to excavate and examine and put back into place. people behave like therapy is being sold as a product but it literally is just 'counseling'. It's all you at the end of a day, a good therapist is nothing more than someone who helps you find your toolset and shows you where to get to work.
nice buzzwords
>toolset
this is why people can't take this shit seriously lmao
is there just one incredibly annoying teenage troll in this thread of are there a big bunch of you arrested development cases working in tandem?
A set of tools means nothing?
>you need a mental "toolset" to get your shit sraight
its called thinking and then acting, mate
Yeah that’s a good way to say it too. You can talk to someone else and think about what they say and make decisions on how to act. Thinking includes evaluating if they’re right or not on something, you don’t have to do everything someone says, but you could figure out something new from it. That’s what anon means
>everyone is stupid except me
people not working thru their trauma leads to children like you being brought up
>people who need to pay some israelite to tell them not to be such a fricking loser are the brave and clever ones
woah...
based on your behavior in this thread, you desperately need a israelite to tell you to not be a loser. good luck with your life tho
>good luck with your life tho
seems like you're the one who needs it mate lol
Not him but you live with your parents. You have no room to talk.
you're not getting treated for schizophrenia are you, anon?
My life is fine though. Your behavior is extremely typical of a miserable person. Feeling the need win internet arguments and look down on people constantly are not things mentally healthy people do.
>sharts in the mart
To be fair you really don’t know what his life is like based on his revulsion to a form of professional counseling
>toolset is a buzzword now
ISHYGDDT
It’s covered for free under my health insurance
psychologist is for drugs, therapist is for talking
My favorite is when you see liberals saying "bonus points for being in therapy" or similar in their dating apps.
>therapy
>Third worlder casually justifying America nuking them
Maybe daddy putput will you
>people are making fun of me??! THEYRE ASKING TO GET NUKED
It’s not happening and the American military doesn’t care about you getting trolled
We medicate children so it almost guarantees it can fund the therapy machine later on.
it's a very accurate representation of psychoanalysis, which almost nobody practises anymore
Bang on. You can see how useless it was. Your generally supposed to aim for Therapy to be for a short period where you have set out some goals in terms of your welfare and are looking to achieve them. Good therapy focuses on developing skills and tools to help you function better in the present and you have to practise them yourself. It's not supposed to be an endless deep dive into your past or a brothel for your ego.
>and he don't speak english
apparently, neither does "dr." Phil
>take your money for years until "realizes" a mafia boss is a sociopath
bravo
it is very silly that a professional psychologist only learns what psychopathy is after years of practice
No. It's all just a racket for the israelites. Livia was based.
I've never seen a therapist office in my country, why do americans worship "mental health" ?
Health is good.
Shovelling cheeseburgers into your gullet is ok as long as you engage in talk therapy?
No, that’s not okay.
Have you seen the situation lately? It's either lock yourself down with some shrink hack or get really high and carry on as usual. I prefer the latter. You get more done that way, less crying more work. Slow, high work. But work.
Plus everyone pushes each other into it. No one talks about things anymore, no one deals with things internally. If someone has a problem you shuffle them off to a doctor you know so you can carry on with your busy day of snorting pills off the coffee table and watching the same 5 shows.
>No one talks about things anymore, no one deals with things internally.
Pick one of these.
someone's an optimist
Dealing with things internally means doing it in-house and not sending them off to Dr. Shekelberg, not bottling it all up you fricking troglodyte moron. Context clues.
Shekelberg > old wive’s tales from your family and friends
Wrong, but also if people had family and friends that gave a shit in the first place they wouldn't need some quack to get basic advice from.
>Shekelberg > old wive’s tales from your family and friends
this is what amerigolems actually believe
Mental healthcare is important, but the way people immediately associate it with therapy, psychiatry or any private healthcare consultancy is just not right. If anything, its a further symptom of the hyper-privatisation of the medical industry in the US.
Why do people like you stick around complaining and never doing anything the frick about it?
I'm 28
>never been to a therapist
>not diagnosed with anything
>never been prescribed a medication
>never tried drugs
>never tried alcohol
>never been to a wedding
>had sex with two girls ever
How are my stats bros
Americans live in a dystopian hedonistic hellhole, the only way for them not to kill themselves is to stuff their mouth with colorful pills and speak for hours about their own egoistical self, only solace those goblins can get.
when you get mutilated at birth you'll have mental issues for the rest of your life.
Because 3rdies like you don't have higher intelligence and self-awareness.
Surely the self-absorbed, pill-guzzling, multilated American society is superior.
they are right that mental health is important but is so wrong in how to go about improving it. The western way is the single mom way which is spoiling you and making you believe the world is nice and full of flowers and everyone can be a celebrity if thye just wish for it hard enough. This is so worng in so many levels and can make a kid very angry when they find out they can just flip burgers.
what is the right way then?
It sounds corny and have been repeated a million times but make them appreciate the little things and be grateful. This cannot be said by the way, you can't just tell someone to appreciate this and they will immediately feel the same way. As a parent you have to show them that what you do, no matter how small, matters and stop looking up celebrities and the top 1%. Hopefully it rubs on to them and the outside programming from the israelites won't affect them. In the worst case if they just end up flipping burgers they can still be happy. The irony is if they end up thinking what they do matters and have a go at it with a full heart will actually help them improve on it and maybe he'll be branch manger someday or be brave enough to venture to other fields.
>The current ruling ontology denies any possibility of a social causation of mental illness. The chemico-biologization of mental illness is of course strictly commensurate with its depoliticization. Considering mental illness an individual chemico-biological problem has enormous benefits for capitalism. First, it reinforces Capital’s drive towards atomistic individualization (you are sick because of your brain chemistry). Second, it provides an enormously lucrative market in which multinational pharmaceutical companies can peddle their pharmaceuticals (we can cure you with our SSRIs). It goes without saying that all mental illnesses are neurologically instantiated, but this says nothing about their causation. If it is true, for instance, that depression is constituted by low serotonin levels, what still needs to be explained is why particular individuals have low levels of serotonin. This requires a social and political explanation; and the task of repoliticizing mental illness is an urgent one if the left wants to challenge capitalist realism.
Simple as.
because normalizing "mental health" is both incredibly lucrative for the psychiatric and pharmaceutical industries and a convenient excuse for regular people on why they're garbage human beings
I just snort harddrugs in the weekend
I went to counseling on and off for three years. It's free here in Europe. That has nothing to do with the story, just dabbing on the yanks. Anyway, I always found it irritating because they'd give me gay advice like "Hug a tree" (an actual piece of advice I got), or meditation, which I have nothing against I suppose, but I told them like 1000 times doesn't work for me. I'm not a koombya, let's all do drugs type of guy. So therapy/ counseling wasn't for me. Took me three years to figure that out though.
Sounds like awful councilling and not psychotherapy
They did a bit of both if I'm honest, but again, after 3 years I just had to be honest and admit that it wasn't working. The thing I don't get about therapy/ counseling is why some people go for their entire life to it, and still feel like shit? It's some cult shit going on. It wasn't working for me, and I left. I don't get why more people don't do that.
Well, for some people, it's just a place to vent and seek approval that they are in control. It's wholly selfish if you're jot trying to address root causes and just moaning about issues caused by those root issues.
Hit the nail on the head anon
It helped me realize that my depression/anhedonia is biological and not situational. That fact gives me the courage to try more unconventional methods like ketamine.
Funny, I nearly did try micro dosing, but in the end I thought that relying on self medication would be several times worse than meds from an actual doctor. I just think having to be chemically altered to exist is a way worse scenario than just straight up depression/ anxiety. I could be wrong. No judgements if it's working for you.
I’m getting the ketamine from a doctor.
>I just think having to be chemically altered to exist is a way worse scenario than just straight up depression/ anxiety.
Hard disagree. Getting chemically altered is how I got here in the first place, so I’m willing to alter my chemicals to get back to where I was two years ago.
>The thing I don't get about therapy/ counseling is why some people go for their entire life to it, and still feel like shit? It's some cult shit going on.
Church for atheists
>It's free here in Europe.
You pay for it with your low, highly taxed salary.
Its genuinely a sham. I know from the shit my ex's councillor told her to do that its all nonsense and actually counterproductive and out of the realms of reality.
a therapist told me literally to "pull myself together"
b***h im suicidal, have 0 motivation and im constantly fantasizing about ending things, if i could "pull myself together" i wouldnt be here in the first place
frick therapy, frick antidepressants, they only work for mild cases
>frick therapy, frick antidepressants, they only work for mild cases
Sounds like you just don't want to try anything because you think you know better.
yeah ofc im not trying, thats why i went to two different therapists and a psychiatrist to try 3 different drugs
frick off c**t
>gave up
Yeah, you're not trying.
You just want to moan online because your neuroses is all you have as an identity.
>your neuroses is all you have as an identity
youre projecting a little too much there
Cut a little too deep?
what? youre the one projecting here
Sounds like you had some very vapid surface level issues that were easily solved so now you think therapy is some wonder treatment and not just a waste of money
The irony of this projection.
Nice non-retort homosexual.
Remember to take your numb numb drugs Dr Deandera DeShawn BA prescribed you
>/pol/
And he says we need therapy lmfao.
You're tilting at windmills, maybe you're schizo-typal and are seeing things patterns that don't exist?
My consultation is $300 btw plus tip
You’re the one saying it’s wrong to use a therapist to solve a surface issue. That doing so is weakness and some type of brainwashing? If it can work, why not do it and recommend it?
Because if you have am IQ above 90 you van overcome it yourself. I know introspection and self awareness is a rarity on Cinemaphile but maybe try it some time instead of relying on some office mommy with a meme degree telling you you're a good boy for escort prices without the privilege of actually fricking the escort
Can you truly say you’ve solved all of your problems and don’t create more for yourself?
cut a little too deep there buddy?
He’s saying that a ruthless aversion to therapy or counseling, to such an extent that your insult is ‘I bet you went to therapy to solve a simple problem in your life and it worked’, is a pointless simple problem you could probably ease with counseling
you sound like a homo. pull yourself together man.
Pull yourself together.
That's basically it though. If the system doesnt work for you then you must find your own way
>It's free here in Europe.
lmfao shut the frick up homie europe isn't a single country, it sure as hell isn't free in my country
>That has nothing to do with the story, just dabbing on the yanks.
Uhh, hello, based department?
>"It's free"
>proceeds to pay high taxes so some moron can tell other morons to hug a tree
LOL
Not all, but she's pretty accurate.
You can meet a well read person give you the exact same advice, they are just intellectual masterbating themselves in the guise of helping people.
Does anyone else feel a level of numbness from holding everything in?
Something bad happened, sort of a final straw thing, and I felt a physical hardening in my chest and a mental switch going off. My empathy responses are fricked, I cry at dogs and cat videos, impoverished kids and all that women bait shit now too.
I used to go to this group therapy thing. There was a strong black business woman and a plumber joe in there. I for reference am a robot that cannot be salvaged. It was hilarious looking back how ill prepared the therapist lady, also a black woman, was to help me. All of her "strategies" involved coping with work, family and friends, of which I had none and she basically acted like I didn't exist after a point so I stopped going.
Was it some free service?
It was free UK therapy.
lol
some people really are beyond help, thats the hard truth
she was probably trying to milk your money but felt awkward about it
I'm American and no one in my family has ever seen a shrink. I don't know anybody who does. I think that shit is overrepresented in media because it's an entertaining and it serves as a useful storytelling premise.
And I'm about the only person in my friend/family group who can sleep at night and doesn't need therapy
You are probably a hillbilly country bumpkin from the Midwest.
t. brainlet who needs therapy
>it's a person who can't even understand themselves thinks they understand psychology episode
What anime is that from?
>Why don't we take this realistic behavior of boys and put it on these two girls, pedophiles will think it's really cute hehe
I hate Japan
I’m calling a substance abuse specialist cognitive behavioral therapist later today to deal with alcoholism smoking and constantly getting stoned, my gf encouraged me to. What can I expect? It’s a man at least
the only pragmatic way out of addictions is to find something you love more than the addiction which is why it just becomes a series of intense obsessions with new hobbies/subjects. to that end you should probably look at finding a new gf too.
I do draw and stuff and im excited to get back into it, when I do I do drink less. But I do have trouble setting myself to do it and really would prefer to always be drunk because it’s pretty frickin fun
if you're lucky at a point you'll naturally enjoy life more whilst sober because of the state of. attentiveness and things you can enjoy compared to being total monged out. that's why i think the main point and really only long-lasting solution of action is to slowly start re-arranging life around to that end so that maybe you'll get there in 10 years. No one pursuit or remedy is a cure because it all collapses again once your faith/interest/encouragement in that singular does. I think as long as you keep in mind it's a piecemeal process with no silver bullet then it's generally an upward trajectory and things can end up turning around quicker than anticipated, or at the very least the general interest in a substance can begin to wane so that you can examine what an enjoyable life sans being monged out could be
Yeah I still drink and smoke just about whenever I can, enough to warrant substance abuse counseling, but I was truly way worse and I’ve managed to keep a job and develop a relationship and buy a house and get better at being productive, it’s helped but i still prefer liquor and weed for leisure pretty much every day. But yes it shows me a big secret is to create a life around you you enjoy living in and staying busy in. I have to say it’s a damn shame because what set my gf off is the cigarettes. She was mostly fine with everything but I’m kind of getting the D.A.R.E. treatment from her for smoking cigarettes. It’s like damn that’s what bothers you?
nothing will make you more of a pariah by the general populace than ciggies these days.. the overreaction i'm sure isn't productive at all, in fact cigarettes are probably the most productive / best case addiction you could roll with.. i don't get the anti-smoking movement personally. stress kills and drives you to far worse things. ciggies ARE kind of a silver bullet to that one if it's a few a day.
but generally just being around a person/or people who are making your life worse and not better drives you to the pleasures of drugs, if they then in turn chastise you for that it's even worse! hope she can become someone who makes things better and if not ... ! Good luck with all of it
She makes my life pretty good most of the time, I abused substance more before I met her. What’s nice about my gf is she actually evaluates on her own if she’s been a bit much, and apologizes without being asked, blew my mind the first time she did it. Beyond that we do get along, she’s a bit lazy but we share some hobbies and plans and she works too. Needs to fricking consolidate her finances and payments though, I told her that.
What awful fricking advice. That's just a dry drunk. You get sober by learning coping skills and strategies for the negative feelings you are suppressing with drugs.
Problem is a lot of it is legitimate boredom. Yes I could meditate and use all these methods to calm a desire for stimulation or fun, but at the same time if I’m bored and alcohol or weed is fun then it’s not a very bad idea at all to get into something and make a night of it. So I agree with the other anon more, more options to commit to work when bored is better than using methods to tolerate boredom. As for being a ‘dry drunk’ when I decide to work on a project I pour a drink anyways and it usually sits there unsipped as I use my hands, or I drink it at about a third of the rate I would just playing a game or fricking around
>dry drunk
not him but thats me. i come on Cinemaphile to do my talk therapy, would rather a milf therapist though
Bros, I really hate israelites, a LOT.
Thing is, I'm a quarter Ashkenazi and my entire mother's side of the family larps hard as pure blood israelites.
What do I do?
They even made me do a bar mitzvah, despite being too young to know what I was agreeing to.. I feel mentally abused.
I also really like bacon and white people.
post nose
Do I pass?
stop being a gay
t.jew
Therapy is a scam, simple as', I went through it.
It does help your mental state to speak and vent, but it just makes you feel better temporarily, it solves no issue, and you're coming back to pay for more a week later. The average person cannot understand themselves, so an outsider has very little chance. The assumptions shrinks made were frankly laughable at times. Honestly, you're better off trying to actively fix your shit and just go through it, you'll save money.
Also, suffering is normal, you don't need a shrink everytime you feel bad, just analyse why you feel like shit and try to grow from it, it's a natural human feeling, an indication of something going wrong, just like physical pain.
What about when your work insurance covers it
Knock yourself out, as long as it's free.
If being constantly reminded that you need to pay in order to find someone to actively listen to your problems is a kink of yours.
I’m setting an insurance-covered appointment for the purposes of good faith with my gf and a hope an actual counseler would give counsel I would benefit from. Honestly I like the idea of having a free little vizier even if he’s full of shit half the time, though I’m prepared to have a little humility for productivity’s sake
>you don't need a shrink everytime you feel bad
see, i think this is a total misunderstanding of what depression is
the normal person gets left by their partner, is 2-4 weeks "depressed" and then gets over it
a really depressed person is someone whose normal state is numbness of which you rarely get out, either by being super sad or super happy
if you have this "oh my, im sad atm" for a few weeks, therapy/pills might rectify that
I understand what depression is 90% of the time ; acute boredom.
As for the remaining 10%, you don't know how resilient people can be, some people went through absolute heart-wrenching tragedies and still managed to find peace and happiness, it's all about self respect, self love and kindness to others, unironically.
No matter what you went through, you have the potential to be satisfied with your life.
not that guy but you presume too much
I don't have any emotions whatsoever, aside from fear and frustration, it isn't that I'm sad, it is that I simply do not (and can not) live the human experience.
Nothing in particular triggered this but I've been like this for many many years and for cases like mine there simply is no treatment
That's exactly what I said, you're part of the 90%
lol
you can't feel emotions = you're bored
how much will that be dr shekelberg?
>Give you a simple explanation of what is the root cause of your issues for free
>You don't need to take any medicine, just get your shit together
>get called Dr Shekelberg
>some homosexual that doesn't know me acts like an armchair psych and "helps me"
you're a joke
In your own example it’s a professional psychologist properly telling you you’re normal and don’t need meds
i thought you couldn't feel anything? you sure seem to feel a lot of hate.
>he thinks you need to be sweating and red with rage to chat shit to some stranger on the internet
I'll amend my statement, I can aslo find things quite funny, lol
>Please diagnose me mental issues, I'm speciaaal
No homosexual, you're just bored because you spend your days in your room doing nothing, get real
>you're just bored because you spend your days in your room doing nothing, get real
holy projection
I'm fit and healthy and just draduated with a top notch degree
now pay $$$ to go cry to some israelite
you're the gay that needs to be given lables about how much of a b***h you are
>draduated with a top notch degree
lol
lmao even
>a typo
>lol
the weakest defence on the internet
>try to brag about how smart you are
>dont even proofread your posts
Yeah I’m fricking laughing at you. We all are. LMAO DUMB Black person HAHAHHA
>proof read on a random imageboard
oh boy
I accept your concession.
yeah, you can tell your therapist how you defeated someone in a scholarly debate at a prestigious forum kek
>get BTFO
>”heh actually i didnt really even care”
Cope you homosexual loser
>making a typo is getting BTFO
you're grasping now
>umm no u
Could you get any more pathetic?
could you? you utter loser
>no u
Every time. The mantra of the moron.
>says the guy getting therapy
glass houses and all that
could you be more of a puerile c**t?
What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little b***h? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the frick out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking dead, kiddo.
>Get angry for the slightest thing on the internet like an insecure weak homosexual
>Larps as a fit rich dude
Every time
>Larps as a fit rich dude
lol I never said I was rich (I'm not)
funny how mutts are offended by fit people though lmao
Surely you're going to be rich with your top notch degree?
Also, I'm not even American
>being rich
>in my shithole country
we'll see lol
Do you have that job yet? Are you confident in your transition into the workplace
I'm going to finish transitioning before I enter the workplace actually
That’s a diagnosis
man you’re so clueless about the matter, how about you stop talking you dumb shitter
See, that’s the outside perspective of a normie on the matter
the kind that says „just don’t be sad, go on a trip or smth, works for me!“
You’re so damn stupid you don’t even begin to grasp the concept
>People who are not a bunch of helpless lazy losers like me are stupid normies
>Why are they so happy while I'm miserable?
>Hold on, it's probably because I'm intellectually superior to them, despite every metric indicating otherwise
>Yes, yes ! That's it!!
normie detected
maybe you all should see a psychologist because you cannot seem to go more than 5 minutes without crying about americans
We're not crying, we're mocking them.
I'm not going to spend 50€ to laugh about Americans for an hour with a stranger, thanks for the idea, though
whatever you say friend. sounds like you have a mentally unhealthy obsession
Why don't they just do it the European way and become alcoholics?
Wait I though Europe was the one of free health care and state directed social engineering
Therapy is very rarely included in universal healthcare, almost as if even the state knew it was bullshit.
Really makes u think, don't it?
Look one way or another I don’t know why we suddenly trust the state
>Therapy is very rarely included in universal healthcare
it is in my country, but at the end of the day if you dont pay for it yourself you have to wait like 6-9months to actually have a place for therapy
and then there are a lot of shitty therapists, but you have to find that one out for yourself
Dentistry and shit like glasses is also not included often in universal healthcare but that doesn't make it not important or bullshit. It's not included because every single country with univeral healthcare limits and rations the shit out of it to keep costs down
I'm American and I've never taken ssris, state of mind altering drugs, or even drank a sip of alcohol. I've never been to a therapists office. I get sad sometimes, and sometimes i get happy about stuff. I have never felt the need to pay someone to listen to my problems just so they can tell me to take a pill that'll make me feel good good good all the time with no bad. That sounds honestly untrustworthy as frick and borderline criminal.
I just think that a lot of people are weak as frick mentally and good people who are vulnerable in a specific moment in their lives get fed to a machine that has no real regard for their well being in the slightest. They get so used to it they don't even know how to live without it. There's a weird for that i think. Addiction? Dependency? It's all fricked
Well for fricks sake anon maybe you’re not mentally ill, ever think about that?
Why have you never drank?
saw what it did to my mother and father.
i mean i like to think so. for the past ten years i've literally been peer pressured into thinking i was by people who didn't trust that there was absolutely NOTHING wrong with me. it's a weird feeling, but instantly washed away when you realize the people who are judging you for being actually normal are the very people taking like 15 pills a day just to get out of bed.
i dunno. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to most people that i genuinely think there isn't actually anything wrong with them other than therapists and doctors telling them that there is. it can't actually be that like 90% of people i talk to are that fricked up. it's gotta be some bullshit they're being fed.
Hey whatever works.
Wait I though Europe was the one with free health care and state directed social engineering
I should go back to therapy but I'm too poor and also way worse than I was before.
I wanted to be a therapist in school, seems easy. Can you do it drunk? Sounds like it’s the same rabid accusing as we post on here, you mean I can do it to a person IRL from a big chair and they’ll pay me?
My father-in-law is a top analyst at the Jung Institute, what do you think about that?
he sounds like a grifting pseud homosexual
Maybe, though it’s funny he’s one of the few analysts who actually does the job and meets with clients, the rest of his team he has been trying to force to work but none of them will. They just signed up and don’t do case work
>How bout that
>How bout that
I need to go to therapy because I tried killing myself.
I'll probably try again later this year.
lmfao @ u if you think they'll do anything other than trying to lock you away.
therapists just throw out drugs to get normies back on their feet after they felt a little depressed for a few weeks
they won't actually help you bro, I almost guarantee you are unsalvageable
I know, this is why I'll try again.
it isn't like you'll miss out on much anyway don't worry
It's another episode of anon doesn't even know what therapy is and conflatez it with other services
That’s just not true though. Like wtf you think suicide prevention means being institutionalized? You can’t be forced institutionalized except by a court after commuting a crime you dingbat, in America at least
>You can’t be forced institutionalized except by a court after commuting a crime you dingbat, in America at least
not in my shithole country
Ah different story then.
Someone post the picture of that social media woman with her bag of daily medicine
not even gonna lie, I'm here for Dr. Melfi
for me its the Bing girls. Strippers are better listeners than therapists
Nice bit of based samegayging in this thread
It's not samegayging, it's online roleplaying
Two words: Roleplaying chatroom, dude!
NA gaygs need it so much more. Because they lives are stress packed. I mean imagine living like this.
>worry about what you say to women
>worry what you say to your kids and family
>worry how to pay 6754588$ for rent
>worry how to behave around homos
>worry about geting canceled over some shit you typed or said in highschool or preschool
>worry about Black folk
>worry about your kids get kidnap at a parking lot comming from school
>worry about randomly getting shoot at the KINOPLEX
>worry about your kids getting shoot in school
>all day eating propaganda from your local tv channel, then watching same propaganda but now its in your fav tv show or holly movie
>dont cook just eat literal trash order up from some random places where your food is prepared by some dirty ass chinks indians niggs and so....... also your food is full with of hormones and fructose syrup
>get randomly dismissed from job, literally 2 days later your homeless lul
>shit relationship with your parents and family in general literally only see them on major holidays
>random tornado hit your plastic house lul
Pretty much, actually
Narcissists look to maximize attention to confirm their power and importance. The sort of attention doesn’t seem to matter. One would think that being ripped open verbally by your victims would be a downer for a narcissist, but it’s actually a plus. They’re always hard up for attention: any sort will do.
Thanks for refocusing the thread onto me.
I was worried you were devolving into sane conversation as opposed to indulging my narcissistic fantasies.
Cheerio and top of the cobbleswob to you and merry now laddy.
I'm not a mental midget
i saw it last night.. on a program
that was real?!
I tried going to a counselor. From my experience it's a meme. He spent probably 85% of our hour long meeting dominating the conversation. I kept trying to interject to tell him things that bother me but I could never butt in. I left feeling like nothing was accomplished that session. I went back the next week and the same thing happened. He would ask weird questions that seemed completely irrelevant and I didn't know what he was getting at. Every time i was able to tell him whats on my mind he would quickly gloss over it and then pivot the conversation in a different direction. Apart of me thought he was just trying to burn out the clock. I did this 2 more times so I saw him for a full month, and I didn't feel any better than when I started, in fact i felt worse. He had a way of making me feel like shit whenever I was able to interject and tell him about things that bothered me. It felt like such a waste of time. Luckily I didn't pay for it. That experience really turned me off of therapy or counseling tho. And it's shitty because sometimes I really do feel like I could use someone to talk to
I'm personally not convinced by therapy, but your therapist was moronic, that's definitely not how you're supposed to treat a patient.
The average shrink speaks very little and mostly listens
And it wasn’t the type of stuff you could think on and self improve? What type of stuff did he say when deflecting you
I’ve had a different experience, did 90% of the talking and she was just taking notes
Wealthier people maybe. Lower class people don't. That shit isn't free.
>goes to her for six years
>no improvement
Pretty accurate
He stopped having panic attacks, so it worked.
More like 8-9 years
I think in the show at the end he says he has been seeing her for 6 years?
Tony used therapy for his own desires.
hoped this would be a soprano thread
same
unfortunately people had to chime in with their own "issues"
people that go to therapy feel the need to tell everyone that they go to therapy
It's a class signifier since it shows 1) you can afford to pay for it, and 2) you qualify somewhere on the victim/oppressed scale.
stop making me jack off.
stop watching the sopranos then
I cant promise that, Chrissy
>It's a racket for the israelites.
it is honestly amazing how many people drank the koolaid and actually go to some therapist quack
Well really the series is deeply psychological and focuses fully on psychological terms and analyses to explain and drive the action of the series. Melfi may be a dumb twat who can’t do the job she thinks she does, but all that shit about being in denial Pussy is a rat until it occurs to Tony in a dream, Tony destroying Tony B and B destroying himself over Tony’s unwillingness to share turf and power with his old friend, Junior and Feech and Phil all demanding respect and power through seniority, all of this stuff is directly psychological
Psychology/therapy/pills/all that shit is bullshit was the point of the show.
But it’s nothing to do with therapy or the psychology industry why Tony was in denial Pussy was the rat, and could only figure it out in a dream. It was because Pussy was a long time loyal friend who was very much like an equal to Tony, and he had built this worldview that people like him would never rat, so he was blind to it when it was obvious. That’s not therapy or pills, that’s real human psychology, which does exist regardless of how people diagnose or meditate it. The show believes in real human psychology and generally a Jungian perspective of it, but is very skeptical of the industry and the people working it it.
I think what the show was actually displaying was that therapy is worthless without concrete and serious action. Tony's fundamental problem is that his mob lifestyle and the violence and deception it requires prevents him from forming any meaningful social bonds, fosters paranoia, and prevents him from controlling his worst impulses. Carmella had the same thing in miniature when she went to a psychiatrist and he told her that her life sucks because she's married to a mass murdering sociopath. Carmella acknowledged that in the moment but never acted on it.
>mass murdering sociopath
Don't be so dramatic he only kills a few people and they deserve it.
I guess mass murderer is not the correct term since he usually kills people one by one. And he ordered dozens of hits throughout his career.
Yes, all Americans go to therapy. That's why people in the US are so mentally stable.
I've gone to multiple therapists over the course of the last years. It hasn't helped me much.
You guys realize some people go to therapy after like their son dies or they find out they have cancer and shit, right?
the losers ITT go to therapy to cry about how hard their life is when all they do is jerk off and watch anime all day.
why do people pay for therapy when when they could just buy funko pops to make themselves happy?
You generally want to avoid pyschodynamic therapists like Melfi and get a CBT therapist if you're serious about recovery, and even then the majority of CBT therapists are incompetent. Therapy really can be fascinating and effective because some people really don't have any way of figuring out what's even bothering them and how to fix their own lives, but much of it is practiced by deluded wine aunts.
I'm not into wiener and ball torture.
Then stay miserable
I have gone to premarriage counseling if thst counts. It was good, helped us get our worries on the table and communicate better.
I want to see a therapist but I am fearful that if I say I have suicidal thoughts theyll lock me away and force me to take medicine. Therefore I dont trust divolging any information to a therapist so it would be pointless.
no it is a psyop to normalise men who compromise every conceivable position in their own lives, if a woman is not listening or following your lead she is wanting to be a man.
The older I get the more I realize being an American means that I have no culture or soul. Our lives boil down to cars, foodstuffs (not even real food), Black person entertainment, and rampant medication.
We have nothing meaningful or of true purpose. We live in a cultural hellhole. We're bread and circus the country, but instead of bread it's a Little Debbie Cosmic Brownie.
Also don't forget the fact that you forced yourselves on most of the world.
Not American but it's pretty accurate, my psychiatrist is literally a top model on her free time, she doesn't want to medicate me and think talking with her is better.
I think she's in love, or she wants my 150 euros per session I dunno.
The sheer psychology of a paypig…
When I need therapy I just take mushrooms and talk with my cat.
Why, you don't think I'd actually go spend a lot of money just to talk to a person, do you?
Yes, americans being congenitally mentally ill is not a meme. Being genitally mutilated at birth probably doesn't help with their autistic development either.
You could call if ADD or an addictive personality, I just want to always get into something. When I start it can be hard to turn it off, so engaging work is often best
Therapists tend to be "Dr" Money types who publicly document how they rape and murder children yet are inexplicably untouched by law enforcement.
Lmao yeah so for every therapist out there I can likely find their rape blog? They’re not just wistful college grads selling some cheap talk they believe in, they’re actually all as bad as the absolute worst doctor you can name from history? Strongly doubt
How to find a therapist? I specifically want a white milf to help me deal with my women issues.
Okay you Neanderthals you may talk all this shit, but aren’t you forgetting that psychiatrists will give you an endless supply of legal amphetamines and have your insurance pay for it?
>aren’t you forgetting that psychiatrists will give you an endless supply of legal amphetamines
really? I cant imagine that happens outside the US