Do people actually think the romance in ATLA was poorly executed?

Do people actually think the romance in ATLA was poorly executed? I feel like the Aang and Katara romance was done really well when compared to other cartoons and shounen anime (as well as compared to any of the relationships from Korra, obviously).

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    why do none of these kids airbend, I am so fricking mad

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It really made no sense. Katara seemed more like a motherly figure to aang despite her age.

      Tenzin

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        The romance was pretty good up until the last 3 quarters of Book 3 where the writers kinda just forgot to develop it. Aang and Katara get one kiss in the invasion 2-parter (which never gets followed up on) and a very clumsy exchange during Ember Island Players. Not counting the invasion kiss that exchange is the first tme Aang and Katara get meaningfully interact 1 on 1 since like Painted Lady and it’s their last interaction in the series before the big kiss. Which leaves the pairing feeling a lot more underdeveloped than it should. Overall however, Aang and Katara are by no means a terrible romance throughout the first 2 seasons, they just fumbled it towards the end.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Aang got that rizz

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          wtf Sapphire Fire is fricking her son?? Does Wang Fire know about this

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wang Fire supports it.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              He's want his mother to move on and find new happiness.
              And he's proud that the son he raised has stepped up to be the man of the house.
              Wang Fire was a legend, on the field, and in the home.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                that portrait makes him uncomfortably look like a rat.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wang Fire supports it.

            Incest is a Fire Nation fetish (on the water tribes is more of an obligation due to the low gene pool)

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous
              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                kek'ed, nice edit.
                My room temperatura IQ ass still doesnt know how to edit words fitting the original artstyle

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Katara seemed more like a motherly figure to aang
        That's hot

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tenzin

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >First two kids are dark skinned
      >One is a non bender the other is a water bender
      >third kid is light skinned, air bends and looks nothing like his siblings
      Katara cucked Aang no less than twice

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wow it’s almost as if their mother was a dark-skinned waterbender or something

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yea but aren't all air nomad kids supposed to be air benders?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Only if both their parents were either Airbenders or between one Airbender and a Nonbender it seems, wouldn’t be the first thing Bryke retconned from ATLA. That’s not even getting into weird cases like the twins from the Fortuneteller with one being an Earthbender and the other being a Nonbender.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Bending seems to come from their location more than anything. We've never seen a natural fire bender be born in the earth kingdom. The Air nomads lived in the highest place that would attune to air. So it's likely that their location was a large factor. It's a mix of environment and genetics.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Apparently the water tribe originally came from some island in the area that would be the fire nation and migrated tp the artic.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wow it’s almost as if their mother was a dark-skinned waterbender or something

        Yea but aren't all air nomad kids supposed to be air benders?

        i dont think that's established anywhere, specially when knowing that neither of toph or katara's parents were benders of any sort.
        still pretty weird how tenzin is physically a copy of his father while the other two brown bastards dont resemble him at all (they're fricking annoying as well)

        Kya was Sokka's
        Bumi was Iroh's
        Tenzin was Bumi's

        how's that possible? tenzin is an airbender while old man bumi was an earthbender.
        Unless you're talking about Commander Bumi from LOK?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Unless you're talking about Commander Bumi from LOK?
          Yes he does

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >cucked by own son
            heart says it's bad to cuck aang but i think this is one of the favorite genres for muh dick.
            Go on?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Not much else to say... Bumi knocks her up with Tenzin, and the two of them regularly spitroast her after

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >has to make up for katara's cuck efforts
                interesting

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bumi is not dark skinned. He's the same shade as Tenzin.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bryke are homosexuals so bending isn't genetic, you don't have "oh your ancestors were airbenders who were exiled after having their bending taken, but you earth people at the foot of the mountains inherited their air powers or some shit". It was just straight up "you can eliminate an entire group because bending can only come from people who are that specific kind of bender". Which was liberal morons trying to eliminate racist connotations but actually made the genocide worse, since in real world genocides like the Moriori being killed by the Maori the Moriori halfbreeds claim the heritage of their ancestors and try to preserve the language and customs, but the airbenders were really finally and absolutely wiped out except for the intervention of the spirit realm making randos into benders.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      if their 3rd kid was not an airbender either, would Aang have kept pushing for more?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/8F9qQqQ.jpg

      Do people actually think the romance in ATLA was poorly executed? I feel like the Aang and Katara romance was done really well when compared to other cartoons and shounen anime (as well as compared to any of the relationships from Korra, obviously).

      it's really funny how zuko (the only character with an active and present father figure during his teenage years) is the only one who was a good father

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen frequently parents that come from a bad upbringing and are aware of it will basically make a deliberate effort to do the reverse when they have kids.
        Sometimes overcompensating into spoiling them.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          kids with shitty parents go one of two ways
          either they over course correct and go too far the other way (toph basically ignoring her kids because her upbringing was too strict)
          or they subconsciously end up acting just as abusive as their own parents

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        How do we know Zuko was a good father? Izumi was on screen for a minute and had one line. That isn't enough information to go on.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >How do we know Zuko was a good father?
          He's still there for her.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Toph was there to rescue her family when they were captured. Are you going to call her a good parent, too?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Where did we found Zuko, in some abandoned location or the fore nation capital.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                At an isolated prison in the middle of nowhere.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well we never see any hints that he's a neglectful father like Toph and Aang's kids.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because his kid was on screen for a minute. I guarantee if she got more screen time she'd bring up her daddy issues at some point.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                But she never did so you just have to accept that Zuko was a good dad.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are making assumptions without anything in the series to back it up, friend. An absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You are making assumptions without anything in the series to back it up, friend
                So are you.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, dummie. My very first post in the chain says there isn't enough information to make any conclusion about his parenting.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon but unlike Bumi, Kya, Suyin or Lin Zuko's daughter seems to respect him.
                And if the writters really wanted her to be another generic character with le mommy issues they would have no trouble including her more, something the writers specifically said they wanted to do so but didnt know what to do with the character. That said, the whole gaang kinda sucks on TLOK one way or another.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >went from manlet to chinlet
      character design on whorra was so fricking lame rofl

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      so progressive from aang to take care of sokka's kids like they were his own

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        sokka died alone anon, get over it

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          he sure did after deflowering katara, toph and the moon, there's a reason why they call him the backbender.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            he only did it with suki and he was unfertile

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am beggining to understand why Sokkagays get mocked so often these days despite being an okay character.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >be the last of your race
      >goes for monogamy
      you were the problem aang

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      why didn't tenzin got himself a harem of concubines whose entire role was to breed future airbenders and if they were born non-benders at least make them honorary air nomads with the highest possibility that korra triggering the spirit awakening would end up being air benders or ebing trained as monks using airbending choreographs to attack and defend. i find it so stupid that tenzin stick with only one woman to breed 3 to possibly 4 airbenders being his attempt to preserve his father's culture.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The romance was pretty good up until the last 3 quarters of Book 3 where the writers kinda just forgot to develop it. Aang and Katara get one kiss in the invasion 2-parter (which never gets followed up on) and a very clumsy exchange during Ember Island Players. Not counting the invasion kiss that exchange is the first tme Aang and Katara get meaningfully interact 1 on 1 since like Painted Lady and it’s their last interaction in the series before the big kiss. Which leaves the pairing feeling a lot more underdeveloped than it should. Overall however, Aang and Katara are by no means a terrible romance throughout the first 2 seasons, they just fumbled it towards the end.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    shipping brainrot is too strong, that's why those homosexuals are mad

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I feel like the Aang and Katara romance was done really well when compared to other cartoons and shounen anime
    Well there's your problem right there, judge on it's own merits.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    they were clearly setting up katara/sokka and azula/zuko but the network stopped them

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kya was Sokka's
    Bumi was Iroh's
    Tenzin was Bumi's

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >kataracuck doesnt even rest on new year's eve
      Uuh based

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Katara doesn't take breaks, so neither do I...
        Am I really making that much of a name for myself?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You just know...

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        know what? and why is she trying to kiss the flying lemur?

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't say bad but bland and predictable is more like it.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was a fine teen romance. People were just overtly harsh on because they wanted the 'bad boy' romance between Katara and Zuko and were mad that it didn't happen.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bad boy romance
      It was the better romance, that's why girls gravitate towards it.
      It's star crossed lovers on every level.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, it was dumb.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          It has more foundation to a romantic relationship then Katara and Aang.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            It really doesn't. Its just a shallow tropey ship.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              There's way more depth to what Zuko and Katara had then what Katara and Aang had.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                go read your shitty YA novels and stop b***hing about avatar.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Am I triggering your teenage years spent on livejournal?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Im not the one praising the one-note 'bad boy' romance like it had any actual merit.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It does, more merit then Katara and Aang's relationship.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a relationship with 0 build-up has more merit than one that was built up throughout the series
                NTA, but your NYR should be to stop acting like a homosexual.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You abbreviate New Year's resolution? Those in glasses houses shouldn't throw stones anon.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're not worth the extra chars.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            that's not really a high bar

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              But it passes it.

              fangirls are moronic and gravitated towards it because they interpreted shit like "I'll protect you from the pirates" literally.

              Fangirls are responding to what feels more right.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        fangirls are moronic and gravitated towards it because they interpreted shit like "I'll protect you from the pirates" literally.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You will never be a real woman

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          You guys are so lazy.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Girls gravitated towards 50 Shades of Grey and Twilight. Are you going to tell me with a straight face those are good romances?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm here telling you that Zuko and Katara is a better romance then Aang and Katara.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You said girls gravitating towards the ship makes it a better romance, and I gave counter-examples that proves your claim wrong.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              No you're just using a logical fallacy, those two things are completely unrelated to what we're talking about.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bitch, you're the one making a fallacy here

                >bad boy romance
                It was the better romance, that's why girls gravitate towards it.
                It's star crossed lovers on every level.

                >It was the better romance.
                >that's why girls gravitate towards it

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's not a fallacy, it's a statement of facts.
                Girls like Zutara because it's a girl's romance, katara is the main character of it. Kataang is a little boy romance where she is just a prize.
                Girls picked up on that easily.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, now you're twisting words to try and backpedal. I'm starting to think you are a woman, because only women are this incoherent when trying to be logical.
                Here's what you actually said "Zutara is a good romance because girls like it" which is not a fact as I disproved it earlier by demonstrating that women have shit taste in romance stories.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't disprove anything anon, you just being a juvenile little sexist saying anything girls like must be dumb.
                And I am a dude by the way.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                YOU said girls are the arbiters of quality. I debunked that claim and now you're seething.
                >you're sexist!
                >I'm a dude
                doubt.jpg

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm said girls like Zutara because it was a romance that appealed to them, ehich you don't really deny just try to use two unrelated things as proof that their opinions shouldn't matter.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nope, you added that in later in the conversation to try to save face. I'm a man, sweetie, I can read.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's a 100 % what you did though anon, your dislike for Zutara is based solely that Girls like it and that makes you angry.
                Reflect on that if you can.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm here telling you that Zuko and Katara is a better romance then Aang and Katara.

        Lemme ask, if you were a woman (you aren't) and some twink with a scar on his face and an ugly haircut tries to kill you and your whole tribe, would you still want to frick him?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lemme ask you something, did you not finish the series? Zuko gets redeemed, becomes Katara's best friend, and gets a better haircut.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          zutara sucks but that's the possible worst cope when the Wyoming who watched this show were into that guy and his earth kingdom Walmart brand (which Katara canonical twisted her panties for.)

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    terrible bait to start off the new year
    Cinemaphile never changes

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's true tho

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Compared to other cartoons and shounen anime
    That sentence is doing a fricking lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.
    It's not exactly a secret that romance in 95% of shounen anime is absolute garbage: my thesis is that it's because their target audience are a generation of incels who like having a cute girl to project their romantic fantasies onto, but the series *actually developing that relationship* would just remind them of their real life loneliness. So the entire series is a long will-they-or-wont-they that most of the time they don't bother to resolve.
    Most western cartoons are explicitly targeted at children (either actual children, or pubescent teenagers who want to watch adult content, a'la the target audience for Family Guy, South Park, etc.), whom writers assume are disinterested in serious romantic stories, so that's why those series usually have crap romantic plots.

    So maybe don't defend the romance in A:TLA as "better than anime/other cartoons", because all you're doing is burying the bar under the Marianas Trench.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I never really liked Kataang because boys like Zuko and Jet are clearly established to be the sort of type of guy that Katara is into. While Kataang sounds sweet on paper, it's never really a properly written romance: Katara and Aang only get together because the script demands it even if there's no actual commitment to making it work or seeing it developed. They just get together because...it's written that she's the love interest and therefore Aang "earns" her because now he's saved the world and junk. And even that would be fine if:

    >Katara wasn't established consistently to be something of a mother figure to Aang
    >Katara was shown to be consistently interested in Aang and carry a compelling reason for her interest (what makes Aang a good partner?)
    >Aang liking Katara for reasons beyond a boyish crush/infatuation

    But we don't really get any of that because the direction just ASSUMES that Kataang is inevitable because "aang is the hero and he likes Katara, easy peasy". And that creates further problems like

    >well now Katara has no agency or motive in this potential romance, you've turned her into a prize to be won
    >and Aang's infatuation with Katara repeats in the same way on loop, and there's no deeper look as in to why

    And in the Kataang-centric episodes, Katara is written to be all soft/affectionate back to Aang when romance is teased but at the cost of her autonomy...and she's even drawn to look younger when shown near Aang.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      A good romance in fiction has to be born out of chemistry between characters, and there's no romantic chemistry between Katara and Aang. Most of this is Aang's fault because he's not really a character geared towards romance, but that has less to do with the fact that he's young and more to do with the fact that as a character, he's only a few steps away from being a plot device no different than an object or magical animal McGuffin.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Katara/Zuko ship is just the Hermione/Draco ship for weebs instead of femcels, and sucks for all the same reasons.

      Katara's lack of agency in their relationship is, I think, key to understanding what's wrong with their romance. There's exactly one scene where Katara seems like the relationship with Aang might be something she'd actively pursue, and it's the ending of the Fortuneteller episode back in season 1, when Sokka's remarking that Aang is a "powerful bender" [spoilers]kek's in British[/spoilers] makes Katara silently contemplate if the fortune she received isn't referencing Aang.
      .......And that's it. That's the only time Katara is ever shown to think that Aang is someone she'd want, and it's just a mild "huh, I guess he technically matches the vague description provided by that dubious fortune I got!"

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Except Zuko and Katara ended up having on of the strongest relationships in the show.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          zuko and sokka have a better relationship than zuko and katara.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            And Zuko and Aang and Zuko and Toph. Hell Zuko probably had the weakest chemistry with Katara out of all the gaang members unless you wanna count Suki

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's a bald face lie though anon. Crystal Catacombs in Ba Sing Sae, The Southern Raiders, the final Angi Kai, you have to desperate to pretend that's not chemistry.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                These episodes do a good job of developing the relationship between Zuko and Katara.

                They ABSOLUTELY do not depict romantic chemistry between them.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                They do though, every single instances is romantic.
                >sharing your deepest secrets in a dark secluded area.
                >unconditionally support.
                >literally willing to die for them.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                1. Aang did that as early as the Storm
                2. You're actually insane if you don't think Aang unconditionally supported Katara
                3. Same for point 2

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Name one time Aang has shown her unconditionally support.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Aang's literally the reason Katara even had a shot at learning Waterbending. H defended her against Master Pakku and was even willing to give her secret lessons which cost him his Waterbending instructor

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                But Aang didn't support when she wanted to avenge her mother's murder which mean Aang does not unconditionally support Katara.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You know some people would say setting boundaries in a relationship like "it's not ok to murder people" is a healthy thing, but that's just me. Moreover, while didn't agree with Katara's decision to seek revenge he didn't stop her either. Aang even went as far as to lend her Appa for the mission because he trusted her that much to make the right decision, which she does.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's her mom's killer and he's acting like a condescending butthole to her. That is not supporting her in anyway.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but he's not condescending, he voices his opinion on the situation, that revenge won't work the way katara wants it to, and when katara decides to go through with the plan to find him anyway, he understands despite disagreeing and is okay with her going off and making the final choice herself.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                We must not have watched the same episode, Aang never condescends to Katara during that exchange if anything Katara's the one acting abrasively towards Aang and her brother. Once again actions speak louder than words Aang tells her that it's something she must face even if he doesn't agree with her taking revenge, that's the difference between support/trust and blind enablement.

                It is incredibly condescending to tsk-tsk Katara's hatred of her mother's killer considering this is the kid who was gonna kill an entire tribe of people over Appa.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                The Appa thing is way more justifiable given that it was a recent loss Aang was suffering through. Moreover it's insane how you can't realize the symmetry here. Katara brought Aang back to reality when he was about to lose control and now it's Aang's turn to do the same with Katara. What exactly are you trying to say here? That Katara should've let Aang go ham against the Sandbenders? Because you can't say that Katara deserved vengeance for her mother without also shaming Aang for the Sandbender incident.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The Appa thing is way more justifiable
                No it's not, Katara mom is a human being who sacrificed herself for her daughter.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                And Aang was right in the end so

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                He wasn't though, the episode literally ends with Katara saying Aang is wrong and how she can never forgive her mom's killer.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                No it doesn't, the episode ends with Zuko telling Aang he was right about violence not being the answer and then asking him about what's gonna be the plan for when Aang has to face down Ozai.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It totally does end with Katara pointing out that Aang never understood what she emotionally needed.
                >so you forgave him?
                >no I can never forgive that man.
                Plain as day.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                So? She still ultimately followed Aang's advice and chose not to take revenge. And while she didn't forgive her mother's killer it's not as if Aang's lesson on forgiveness didn't get through to Katara since she chose to forgive Zuko right after.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It means Aang doesn't see Katara as her own person and neither do if you think Aang taught her anything about not going down the path of revenge, she came to that conclusion herself.
                Aang is a self-centered kid, He's gives out advice he himself doesn't follow considering he was gonna kill an entire tribe over his pet being missing.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                see

                The Appa thing is way more justifiable given that it was a recent loss Aang was suffering through. Moreover it's insane how you can't realize the symmetry here. Katara brought Aang back to reality when he was about to lose control and now it's Aang's turn to do the same with Katara. What exactly are you trying to say here? That Katara should've let Aang go ham against the Sandbenders? Because you can't say that Katara deserved vengeance for her mother without also shaming Aang for the Sandbender incident.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                See

                >The Appa thing is way more justifiable
                No it's not, Katara mom is a human being who sacrificed herself for her daughter.

                you fricking psycho.
                Do you seriously belive that Aang had more moral justification to be angry then Katara?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Regency is the deciding factor here not what was lost. Aang just happened to stumble into the same man who stole his Bison the day before subjecting him to untold amounts of mistreatment and fear. That experience ends up forever scarring Appa. While the death of Katara's mom is tragic obviously it also happened a long time ago and it's something that Sokka was able to reconcile all on his own. The fact that Katara goes as far as to diminish Sokka's love for their dead mother should be plenty evidence that this is unhealthy

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Regency is the deciding factor here not what was lost
                Why? Anon, be human for like a second.
                That's her mom who offered up her own life because the fire nation heard about a waterbender in her village. You can keep pretending if you want but I think most people are just gonna be disgusted with you.
                I know I am.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Why?
                Because emotions run stronger the more recent the tragedy is, can you not grasp this? Are you saying that Aang had no right at all to be upset about Appa being stolen and mistreated just because Appa's an animal?

                >You can keep pretending if you want but I think most people are just gonna be disgusted with you. I know I am.
                You ought to remind yourself that we're talking about fictional lives here, you're acting as if I'm trying to diminish real life tragedy here. It's just a cartoon bro, it's not that deep

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's a fictional world but it's a real life morality we're talking about here.
                You're equating the lost of a pet worse then a little girl seeing her mom dragged to a death sentence, which you know you can't actually defend.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're diminishing Aang's loss of Appa entirely just because Appa was an animal. I must assume you've never owned a pet if you can't empathize or you're just a psychopath

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're diminishing Aang's loss of Appa entirely just because Appa was an animal
                Hell yeah.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, so you are a psychopath

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                didnt he leave his friends to die on that episode? I dont think even the point of le hecking animal abuse makes sense given that the kid kills some bird

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >didnt he leave his friends to die on that episode?
                No

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >fricks off in the middle of the desert with Sokka drunk and Toph completely useless due to the sand
                I kinda remember Katara stepping up on that particular episode but I havent watched a full episode of Avatar since late 2011 so I may be wrong.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                He went looking for Appa until nightfall, which if he did find would've saved everybody, but returns once he realizes Appa's long gone. It's also worth mentioning Sokka was not drunk when he left.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                > It's also worth mentioning Sokka was not drunk when he left.
                You mean when the guy looked like he was gonna pass out from dehydration? Dunno lad, doesnt seem he priorized the group's safety on this one

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're misremembering, you might want to watch the episode again.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                maybe I am or maybe not but alongside what I remember plus >He went looking for Appa until nightfall, which if he did find would've saved everybody
                implies that the whole group was on a critical situation, if my friends were potentially dying I wouldnt be going around slaying in half some insect in the desert.
                katara holded the group together on this episde on her own.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well that’s kinda the point, that Aang is letting his emotions lead him to making rash shortsighted decisions. He doesn’t don’t directly endanger anybody but he is unambiguously acting selfishly and the episode frames it as a very bad thing. The following episode has Aang over correct his mistake instead choosing to cast aside all emotion to prevent something like the desert from happening again.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >He doesn’t don’t directly endanger anybody
                Am pretty sure he putted everyone in danger by going into the avatar state and ends up killing that animal
                >The following episode has Aang over correct his mistake instead choosing to cast aside all emotion to prevent something like the desert from happening again
                I dont quite remember the next episode but it wasnt neither the first, nor the last time aang allowed his feelings get into the middle of his responsabilities.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >katara holded the group together on this episde on her own.
                Like she usually does.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Frick off you know that’s not true, 3 episodes before this she was cussing out Toph from the group for insanely petty reasons.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair running away is a core character trait of Aang.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                fair enough but I thought he had learned something by that point of the show, specially since S2 is the peak of Avatar IMO but guess I was wrong.
                Still, I guess he's not as bad as Steven fricking Universe.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Aang doesn't see Katara as her own person
                Anon, your headcanon is not a reality

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                He calls her his forever girl.
                God that's something only creepy losers who call themselves nice guys would do.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                in his sleep deprived hallucination, yeah

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's a bullshit possessive claim on someone who treats her like a nanny most of the time.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I forgot about that ending where everyone starts shitting on Aang for being a bald manlet, I think it was only available for schizophrenic Zutara tumblr trannies though

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                We must not have watched the same episode, Aang never condescends to Katara during that exchange if anything Katara's the one acting abrasively towards Aang and her brother. Once again actions speak louder than words Aang tells her that it's something she must face even if he doesn't agree with her taking revenge, that's the difference between support/trust and blind enablement.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Zuko is the one who actually helped her got closure and the episode even ends with Aang still clearly not understanding Katara's feelings.
                I

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, you need to quit the copium. By this logic you could insist Toph and Katara were secret lovers the entire show. S3E7 The Runaway does all three of those for Katara and Toph in a single episode.

                So either admit you're grasping at straws to justify the Zutara ship, or admit you're homophobic that you aren't justifying the clearly superior (by your own logic) Katoph ship.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can't use that logic for Katara and Toph because Toph never sacrificed her life for Katara.
                Zuko did and that's why Zutara just feels natural to most people.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Crystal Catacombs
                Not the best example when Katara went running to Aang as soon as he showed up
                >The Southern Raiders
                The weakest Zuko field trip episode by a wide margin
                >Final Angi Kai
                Katara's inclusion actively made that fight worse by robbing Zuko of his win over Azula
                Here's your reminder that Zuko smiled during his time with Sokka and Aang but never with Katara

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Not the best example when Katara went running to Aang as soon as he showed up
                C'mon man, she went from seeing Zuko as the face of the enemy to offering to erase his mark of shame.
                >The weakest Zuko field trip episode by a wide margin
                I don't think you have the literacy to make that qualification, see above for reasons why.
                >Katara's inclusion actively made that fight worse by robbing Zuko of his win over Azula
                You know that's something that makes it obvious how much of a contrarian you're being.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >C'mon man, she went from seeing Zuko as the face of the enemy to offering to erase his mark of shame.
                Well that's just who Katara is, she's somebody who offers compassion to everyone. You also must remember that she wasn't the first person to see the good in Zuko, Aang was. You're also conveniently leaving out that she went right back to viewing him as the face of the enemy after Zuko betrayed everyone and was more venomous than ever towards Zuko prior to their eventual reconciliation, Compare that to his outing with Sokka where the two basically hit it off right off the bat.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're also conveniently leaving out that she went right back to viewing him as the face of the enemy after Zuko betrayed everyone and was more venomous than ever towards Zuko prior to their eventual reconciliation
                >their eventual reconciliation
                >reconciliation
                Which meant a lot more then one episode.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah it obviously meant they should've started shagging each other right then and there

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It just means they have amazing chemistry together.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Remember that she also threatened to kill the frick out of him, just not in those words, should he ever betray them (especially Aang) again

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Zuko should've just banged everyone
              A big bisexual racemixing orgy

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Zuko and Sokka
            They spent their episode together daydreaming about their girlfriends (Azula and Katara)

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're not wrong, but their relationship is also pretty explicitly friendly, and really just speaks to how underwritten the Aang/Katara relationship is.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        > The Katara/Zuko ship is just the Hermione/Draco ship for weebs instead of femcels
        don't think I could've put it better, its boring fanfic schlock

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Man, katara and aangs romance had been getting hinted at/developed ever since the first season, what the hell are you talking about?

      Also as it stands, Zutara never really had much better reasoning, considering the main draw for shippers was just the appeal of the bad-boy romance trope (which even in-show, katara had matured out of)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I never really liked Kataang because boys like Zuko and Jet are clearly established to be the sort of type of guy that Katara is into.
      Jet maybe, but not fricking Zuko. Even then she's over Jet by end of his debut episode

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Katara wasn't established consistently to be something of a mother figure to Aang
      Name these "consistent" instances where she is viewed as a mother figure by Aang.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        NTA, but you're misreading what they're saying. **Aang** never viewed her as a mother figure, but she is depicted **by the show** as a motherly/sisterly figure towards Aang

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Then name the instances when the "show" portrayed her as Aang's mother figure. Because one of their very first interactions is Aang telling her she's still just a kid as they penguin sled, showing you how he views her as a peer and not a mother.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Literally during their entire travels where she cooks, cleans, takes of any expenses, has to constantly remind that he can't spend all his times playing like in the kiyoshi island episode.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >she's even drawn to look younger when shown near Aang
      ...what

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly would be fine with Kataang if Aang wasn't so underwritten, boring, or annoying at his worst. At that point it makes me question why Katara would even like him.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >somebody finally shared the newest pages of that Sokka x Katara Milky Bunny comic

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's planned to be 37 pages long
      I'm personally waiting here for when she starts doing the Zucest comic tbh.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      One of the hottest things I've ever read...

      >has to make up for katara's cuck efforts
      interesting

      What do you mean?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        salsa? r34 seems to have purged this artist's work for some reason

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I will say that I don't think the romance was done too well, when all is said and done. Bryke aren't the sort of people who can write a romantic relationship because they're...both hollow in that weird basedjak neoliberal Protestant spoiled manchild midwit Gen X way.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Spoiled is a good word for them, you can tell they see Avatar as theirs instead of being a group effort by a whole team of dedicated writers and artists.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Katara just never had chemistry with Aang. Toph seemed better in the first 2 seasons.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    no fricking way aang was faithful his whole life to katara. The age gap is alot between them and the goddamn avatar won't settle for a hag. I mean thing about it,bro brought on world peace he had to get mad pus. I bet you money aang fricked tons of b***hes while "married". Whats his secret?Airbending Airbubbles in his dickhole, no way he will get a baby mama if he can't cum except on command. Man's a genius. Plus you just know him and toph fricked.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      He should've just impregnated Ty Lee and all her sisters, frick it throw in the air acolytes too, and all the girls from when he went to the fire nation school

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Katara spends 99.9% of the series viewing and treating Aang as a little brother, often explicitly stated.
    >Ending she suddenly actually loved him the whole time.
    Avatar crew has never been good at romance. Their main pairings are almost all poorly to nonexistantly written or the characters have better chemistry with other characters or one offs i.e. Aang/On Ji or Zuko/Jin. I honestly think Zutara wouldn't have been as much of a thing if Kataang and Maiko had been written as actual romances present from the start and showing the actual romantic feelings develop instead of coming off as happening becauase the writers said.

    Same problem Korra had too which is why all the good ships (like Lin/Mako) are basically fan pairings since the characters were able to develop real chemistry without romance being shoved in by people who have no idea how to write it. Sokka/Suki is basically a complete aberration across both ATLA and Korra by being a well written romance between two characters with great chemistry... so of course the comics had to go and ruin that.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >good ships
      >Lin/Mako
      is someone actually shipping these two?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Men of taste

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          men with shit taste

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah that's you

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