Why do I always see this meme as if working for forty years in an office is somehow a great deal? Ince you graduate college you get to look forward to doing the same thing for the rest of your adult life. And then when you are too old to enjoy life you get to retire.
Most of your waking hours are spent working. When you add up travel and prep time as well as the time you need to decompress from work, it’s almost the entire day besides the few hours you get to sleep so you can be rested enough to do it all over again. And then you have your weekend but you are probably going to be too tired to do much besides sit at home and recharge for the next week of work.
I’m just really baffled if people don’t understand this. Likely it’s zoomers who are still in college. Ive seen the ones who graduate and realize what working life is and they don’t like it.
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You'll understand once your older.
This. The government should just give us money so no one has to work. Capitalism has failed.
young people these days just don't want to work...
phyllis and I were absolutely shocked to find that our golf club no longer employs a shoe shiner.
>pic
sends me into an actual rage. that homosexual is the definition of "good goy". how the frick can someone be so content with their own slavery?
You're just angry at him because unlike you he doesn't throw a pity party for himself every day
And you add some le ebin 1844 lingo to your rage to fit in Cinemaphile
It's called fulfilling a service in the society you live in. If everyone is a Luciferian self-centered hedonist, nothing gets done.
Thought there was no such thing as a "former" marine
What a good goy
Hey, we all know military folk aren't the brightest. Cut him some slack.
>former
the same energy as a holocaust survivor
I'm a sovereign citizen.
I work zero (0) jobs.
I have health insurance.
I worked 0-0 hours a week for 0 years.
I haven't had 1 day on my whole life.
I blame ~~*Wall Street*~~.
Suck my fricking wiener wagekek.
God bless NEETs.
Ebin /LULZ/ maymay, sister
Hello wagekek how is it being poor, childless and paying rent at 30 despite pouring 8 hours a day into the machine?
You're trying so hard and getting so little in return, what a pity.
Not to mention you are probably balding with a horrible skin from all the stress by now.
Ebin /LULZ/ maymay, sister
>wagekek wagekek
learn how to fricking talk right its wagecuck. kek is not interchangable with cuck just because reddit thinks it is homosexual
Holy trips of truth
NEETgods shall inherit the Earth
>marine
>no VA coverage
>no GI bill
Did this guy get kicked out day 0 in boot camp or something?
I have a WFH job and work about 1 hr a day on average
I guess this is supposed to be ironic but you can still believe that capitalism works without pretending that it creates utopias
I mean, money would lose all meaning at that point, but a world dictatorial government allocating all resources is the only feasible way forward. We'll all be long dead tho, famalam
Don't Dictatorial governments massively kill their own population like Chairman Mao or Joseph Stalin?
This but unironically.
bump
This is the exact thing that made my father a very jaded and angry person
He was shackled to an office job for 30 years that just chipped away at him and it's not like my mom and us made things easier for him when he got home
When your life doesn't work out the way you expected and you have to settle for mediocrity, it can just kill you inside
No amount of job security or benefits can help something like that
>When your life doesn't work out the way you expected and you have to settle for mediocrity
That's me except 25 and unmarried. It's put me on the verge of breakdown.
You're not missing much. Women and are needy prostitutes. They and kids consume you.
That's just your dad anon. Farm work is the same or worse. Lofe has always been hard. Before we didn't even have 40 hour weeks. Nowdays people are pushing for 4 fay workweeks. Things slowly get better, at some point uts your fault if you always act like things are worse.
People are currently working more hours on average I'm pretty sure, but that's compared to the last 60 years and not 1910.
>Nowdays people are pushing for 4 fay workweeks
lol he doesn't know... true blackpill is reading 1800s leftists talking about how tech was going to free humanity from work.
Medieval peasants had more leisure time than modern workers. The cope about past workers working more than 40 hour weeks just shows how bad things used to be. It’s not like that was the norm or something and now employers are more lenient.
Tradhomosexual urban legend
>I wanna live like a medieval era farmer
>but with fast food, porn, videogames, discord and twitter
lel
>If we worked less than 40 hours a week and tried to make work more enjoyable society would collapse
>we
That's not true anon. People that say that only count the work they did for payment of their land. Afterwards they had to work on their food, they had to tend to their own animals. If you think farm work was fast and easy, you are a moron.
They probably just used slaves or something to do that.
Might as well count all the chores we do today like paying bills, laundry, driving etc
If your work is farming then your work is farming. You were farming to pay taxes and only after that did you farm to be able to eat.
You didn't do this one after the other, you accomplished both tending all the crops during your work hours
the general wealth of our societies is based on 40 work hours/week. working less in general will impact everything. just saying there is a price to be paid for that
People work an average of 3 hours a day. They sit in the office for 40 hours but let’s not kid ourselves they are working that whole time.
>People work an average of 3 hours a day
Lol only if you do bullshit office job
If you do actual job you can't slack off
What exactly is the picture of the OP?
im often mentally tired after a 8 hours day from work
not when millions of people have no jobs at all
the people that are currently working can work less, and those who arent workign at all can work more
>When your life doesn't work out the way you expected and you have to settle for mediocrity, it can just kill you inside
It's a part of growing up. Realising that you're not special.
feeling like you're not being compensated enough despite putting in the effort and commitment is not "thinking that you're special"
that's not growing up. that's setting for a life you don't want out of fear. If you're single and have no one relying on you there isn't any real reason to settle and not try to accomplish your dream
Sounds like your dad has a persecution complex and was probably a pain in the ass to be around
i work so i can get money to do enjoyable stuff on the weekends or go on a vacation every now and then. grow up
imagine working/neeting when you can just steal.
Stability is nice. What's the issue?
Try having an office job in the pre smart phone days.
AHHHHHHHHH HELP MY CAREER IS GOING WELL AND I LIVE IN A BIG HOUSE AND HAVE TWO CARS
Reminder these movies were both written by homosexuals.
Palahniuk is on the mt rushmore of based homosexuals though alongside Vincent Price
Doesn't change the fact that his idea of "real living" is, like, going to brunch and attending orgies in Brazil.
You say that as if we are supposed to hold that against the films. A lot of great art have had major influence by gays, it's one of the areas where they contribute to society.
You don't get it. Their perspectives are inherently fricked up. They see good things as bad things and vice-versa.
Homosexuals can't ever understand the fulfillment of family life because they can't have families. There's an inherent disconnect there so they fall back on the "he's living a lie" story and the lie is that he's actually a homosexual, but they won't say he is so you have this weird situation where a straight man is somehow not satisfied with being married to an attractive woman and having a steady good career.
a "family" isn't just a wife and a couple kids
too bad is neither a partner, because homosexuals have multiple partners and never engage really one.
all you're doing is proving you don't even know what family means. all you can envision is what you imagine is the opposite.
no homosexual, this is not the kind "the world is my family or other bullshit" meaning, homosexuals talk shit about other homosexuals they don't relate at the same level as family and never will, because the first presence of something similar to family would create a mental reject because their family was the first one on reject them.
you seem to think about gay people a lot.
The Mogul and Investor namegays are all bots. Don't engage.
we talk about homosexuals
>you seem to think about gay people a lot.
was my fault for talking with a moron
>even has multiple categories of gay people
lol
Wait fight club author is gay?
uh yes
What no pussy does to a mf
what sexless marriage does to a mf
what israeli propaganda does to a mf
Coal
You sound like a fat homosexual with no hobbies. Stop being fat and go outside.
Imagine being so perpetually poor you don't understand the lack of fulfillment from "having everything".
I just want to sit down. AC would be nice too. It's really hot and I'm sweating in the sun. My feet hurt. I also don't get paid much.
Yet you have time to post on Cinemaphile... Interesting...
Do you really think you just did something?
WFH is pretty fun though
I just shitpost online lol
How long is your shift today?
I've had a few office jobs. I use my autistic vril to power through tasks that take normies thrice the time, then either knock out projects or kick back on the net. Depends on if I have anything to prove at the time. Compared to shit jobs like retail I have a regular schedule, holidays, PTO, plenty of energy for /fitlit/ after work. It's pretty grand.
I refuse to believe people are making these memes unironically.
Just look at people in this thread.
>grow up
>get hobbies
Op already answered this. Most people will be too tired to feel like having a hobby that takes a lot of energy. It’s why most peoppe when they get home just want to sit down and watch tv. Just go on Cinemaphile and you’ll see people who have just started working complain how they lack the energy to even play video games after work. Going to the gym is a good hobby for people in this respect because the physical exertion relieves stress. But time co aiming energy intensive hobbies are not going to be appealing for people who spend 12 hours of the day devoted to work.
>"SITTING DOWN IN AN AIR-CONDITIONED ROOM ALL DAY IS HARD WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Laborer here. Eat shit and die.
>Laborer here. Eat shit and die.
If it’s so easy and appealing why don’t you get an office job?
Probably because he's an animal that has gorilla strength with an eggshell ego and Mean Girls tier high school girl drama.
I honestly don't understand how anyone can work. As soon as it's 11:00am I need to fap. After that I need to play games for 4 hours and then fap again. Then maybe I go for a walk to get some chips + a box of wine and fap again once I get home. I shower, play some more games and fap again if I feel like it, then go to sleep.
I got a computer wfh job and make over 110k making powerpoints and fapping, at 4pm every day i drink like 4 beers
Wow, that's actually pretty awesome. Sounds like you won the lottery.
No you fricking moron i just went to school and studied and didnt listen to any of the homosexuals trying to demoralize you or sell you shit. Your parents wanted you to study and get good grades and if you didnt do that for any reason it is your own gay little homosexual pussy fault
>I had everything given to me and lucked into my job
Yeah yeah, go frick yourself.
Especially in the case of Fight Club, the fricking movie spells it out for the audience when Tyler says the line early on about the things you own, end up owning you. The big houses, the cars, all the "luxuries" the Gen Z's complain about not having were the very shackles that kept people stuck in office jobs that drained the soul out of people turning them into corporate drones.
Imagine spending 90% of your waking hours just to maintain and take care of your possessions.
IT'S JUST A COUCH
>People are shackled by the homes that they own
>Freedom is paying 50% of your income on rent to someone else who owns your home
Frick off
You can walk away from the apartment you rent without losing anything.
You can walk away from the home with the money you spent on the mortgage instead of rent
Not without losing the thing you previously owned. You have to give it up.
you're playing a dishonest semantic game and you know it
No, I'm pointing out that both the renter and the mortgage payer are just as free as each other. Neither can walk away from their shackles without losing the thing they are chained to.
They aren't shackles, they're just objects. It's up to the breadwinner to decide what he spends his money on. If you decided to waste your money on expensive bullshit, that's not the governments fault. That's your fault. The modern working class needs to start taking accountability.
>israeli usury is a GOY PROBLEM
yeah we get it, schlomo
The government didn't buy that $60k Dodge Charger you're still paying off, dipshit.
the practice of usury was forced on the american people by israelites doesnt matter how much you scream and yell and create false naratives in your head. its your peoples fault it happens in the first place and the ones who perpetuate and gain glee over destroying others financially because their family arent hideous demons bent on world domination. but you knew that...
I'm not israeli you flaming fricking ignoramus. It's objectively observable fact that it's your own fault if you waste your own money. Nobody is forcing you to throw it away, and you have the power to resist any material urges that come after maintaining societal balance. If you want to bea useless piece of shit do-nothing, just admit it! Nobody's stopping you, and you have complete freedom to do so. The reason people get annoyed is because, instead of having a modicum of self-awareness, people like you decide to put the blame on the world instead of yourself. Take control of your life! You alone have the power to do so!
You will own nothing and you will be happy.
I can’t imagine the level of narcissism it takes a 40 something year old man to lament working a stable 40 hour week job, having divorced parents, and never “fighting in the Great War”. As a millenial it makes me want to hurt Gen Xers
>Dude….ze possessions…own you!
Ok. Why don’t you do the right thing and get rid of all the things own and become homeless.
>office jobs are LE BAD
So I take it you'd rather work as a plumber or construction worker or HVAC technician instead? You'd rather give up the high-paying, stable, pencil-pushing job in a climate-controlled environment, to dig ditches in sub-freezing winters to install pipes or fix some building's A/C under the punishing July summer temperatures?
you sound like a pathetic spineless homosexual…”people” like you deserve to be gassed
I'm just saying it like it is. There's a reason office jobs are desirable, they're stable, high paying, and you don't have to sacrifice your body.
all so mr. shekelstein can profit off of you for pennies on the dollar. White collar workers are total suckers
>Oh noooooo the person above me... EARNS MORE!!!
Big whoop. You're still earning a $90k salary.
money you can use to pay for membership in a decent climbing gym you attend every thursday and tuesday from 18 to 1930
Yeah, tradies are salty as frick all the time. Probably the main reason I'd never do any manual labor again.
>If one thing is better than another that makes it good
This is a fallacy. Imagine living in hell. And you are on the top most lower which is still hell but it is the least bad. Imagine comparing info about how bad hell is and then someone asks if you’d rather be lower down in hell. As if that your position being higher up but still in hell makes your position good.
Name me a better alternative then because so far capitalism has been the only system to make our lives as easy as they are now.
>capitalism
>socialism
>communism
>-ism
holy shit the cringe. I'm assuming you're underaged? you're too moronic to post in this thread.
>NEET calling other people underage
Now that's comedy
I already explained that it doesn’t matter what the alternative is. That even if there were no alternative, the best choice still leads to an unpleasant life, life still is unpleasant.
Anyway an alternative would simply be where the government reigns in capitals for the betterment of the population. Give more rights to workers and focus on making the time people spend at work enjoyable as it is the majority of the time in your adult life you will be at work. Instead of focusing on pointless matters it would be better for people to consider making work more pleasant and tolerable to be at.
One thing that could be considered is that it supervisors and employers are not allowed to verbally harass employees. Go to any big law firm and you’ll see how terribly they treat associates. It’s just one example. Why tolerate that?
I mean, an alternative hasn't ever been introduced that didn't involve a despotic dictatorship and/or plutocracy
Since capitalism is concerned with efficiency, we should realize that "more hours" does not equal "more efficiency". People might actually work better if they got paid more, or even if their schedule was distributed differently, such as using a 4 day week.
why you posted a picture of Dyke's Dlido
>over 900 times on Cinemaphile alone
It’s not my problem. If you don’t want to work in an office, then don’t. Nobody is forcing you.
Work From Home is exceptionally rare and on the way out as it is
Whenever you see an anon bragging about WFH he's actually a NEET larping
It's really not. If anything some more are switching back to hybrid but there are still plenty of WFH roles and if a company actually values you, you can negotiate that for yourself
100%
is it neets or wageslaves posting this cope pasta
Yup
They sometimes sprinkle in some Cinemaphile lingo to make their larp more plausible
It's fricking pathetic
This is you.
wfh dev here. no signs of it being phased out in my company any time soon. the board knows it will lose valuable employees if it imposes attendance
you make apps and websites. your work is bullshit and only pollutes humanity.
>disabled adblock to participate in le ebin 4chin saint patricks day event
Larper
adblock plus doesnt need to be disabled
i like solving intelleczual challenges and building a complex webapp provides plenty of those
posting pro-webdev, pro-wagecuck, anti-human shit like this with a lambda and SICP in your siganture is the ultimate insult to what those things stand for.
ok this wagie is on full mental breakdown mode. it's understandable given how shit his life is and the various strategies he employs to cope.
In the industry that just laid off 100 bazillion people? Oh, no, where would they ever find replacements...?
We're all five years out from Devin replacing us.
It's already happening ITT
Anyone saying they are a wfh wagie is actually a hybrid. It still exists but if you work for a company there are less of those. And like another anon said they still exist and are more common if you can negotiate it with your boss. So hopefully anons on here are good beggars and maybe their bosses will take pity on them
I work from home until I get fired and then collect unemployment
if you're a top employee you can insist on WFH or else having to consider changing your employer
That picture is from last year
Yes. I got fired from that job and then collected unemployment until early this year when I got a new job.
>cucknada
Oh boy it's this coping anon again.
Remember the other day I said I was making 70k and you were coping hard? I got a raise and am now making almost 80k.
>gives his larp promotions and raises
At least you're committed to it I guess
is it actually on it's way out? Should I stick to my 60k WFH job instead of finding a 100k job in person?
Most companies have scaled back WFH or only give it to executives or high importance positions. If you're working a slave tier job and still have total WFH, you're lucky.
They are generally not desired, if you work a remote position you should be saving your funds as there's a real chance it will be eliminated in the near future as execs make a squeeze to force RTO. Hybrid returned almost across the market in the space of a couple months, so this is a concerted effort to ensure everyone goes back. It's asinine, really. It's an inevitability that it goes away except for jobs which are necessary to be done in person.
It is not inevitable when most executives are against it. Executives are tyrants and businesses are their tyrannies. Employees cannot stop them from forcing whatever model that they want as long as that model is legal.
I work from home 100% of the time. I work at a major broker-dealer. The only reason why WFH is becoming rarer is because increasingly commercial real estate is failing, motivating RTO, and management feels like they have less control over employees at home --this is not true, but that's how they feel. Gradually WFH will become a reality for a dwindling job market as AI becomes commonplace and execs have to face the facts that increasingly few people are motivated to work at all, let alone drive into the office.
People are always motivated to work, because if they don't work, they don't eat.
Life doesn't make a lot of sense when you don't have children, you know, like God instructed.
I work so that my kids have a fricking normal early adulthood instead of living in agony while they try to piece together a career and family of their own (as I did).
you wageslave for 80 years to produce new wagies to wageslave for 80 years to produce new wagies to wageslave for 80 years
No you fricking idiot, I produce people who make me a more fulfilled human being than you could ever imagine. Sorry your life revolves around gooning and anything which interrupts it is torture.
it's fulfilled because they're gonna wageslave for 80 years.
We need to make a society where robots perform all basic labor and AI performs all cognitive tasks. We need to get rid of scarcity, get rid of the dollar and make a world where everyone can have whatever they want in life.
Impossible since we are social creatures which makes status incredibly valuable. And status is always measured against everyone else.
That's great but I don't care about that stuff and this automatically makes your argument wrong. I literally just want to have an infinite supply of chilli and lime kettle chips and the option to fly fighter jets when I feel like it.
society should not be built around those who dont want to work no
Nice utopia, I'm sure it's gonna happen soon when people are getting stupider and white people are dying out
When robots are made by pajeets you'll need like 3 white guys to unfrick the mistakes they made when programming it because if their code returns an error they'll just omitt that data and say look, it the code works.
Imagine raising future wage slaves for the state lmao
breeders are absolutely hilarious
We get it, you can samegay
ebin pedophile maymay, xixter
ebin /LULZ/ maymay, sisters
And do you expect your kids to also work for most of their lives? I’m just wondering becuase unless I could obtain generational wealth I am unsure what I could do to help my future kids besides helping them become better wagies
Gen X had unrealistic expectations for what life should be like. Seems like you do to. Life has always been a tiresome drudge since the beginning of human history.
Gen X is fine. It's homosexuals who propagate child rape, hate their families, and hate Christ.
Ok
How can you be expected to enjoy a life that is unpleasant? You don’t really think mindset really can change that can you
Basically gen X saw their parents having stable jobs and being able to buy a house for cheap and was hit by the reality that boomers sold us out and we can't have the easy lifestyle they had. It's still not bad but like you said, unrealistic expectations.
gen-x was still dreaming about being rockstars
It's mostly because they mope about "not living life". Seriously, do one contract in the armed forces and then you'll love being in a comfy desk job for the rest of your life.
t. Did one contract as a recon soldier and now sitting in an air conditioned room crunching on a computer is peak comfy
>Seriously, do one contract in the armed forces
Hahahha frick no you zogbot.
>free healthcare
>free college
>get paid a couple of thousand tax free in disability every month
I'm back in college now and lmaoing at these kids complaining about money and student loans
t. Faust
>in disability
just have a nice day bro
It actually takes a lot of work to get disability and you're deliberately shutting a lot of doors for yourself by pursuing it. Getting disability is a life choice. It's free money, but you need to give up dignity to get it.
military route is so easy and you get tons of benefits. You’d be moron to not do it
I think it's mostly cope. Around 71% of the population 18-25 don't qualify for service and 30% of the people that enlist don't even last for 36 months and therefore don't get the bennies.
Plus VA is kind of dogshit and will constantly deny healthcare coverage/ procedures so now you are just some PTSD addled vet who’s suicidal . Not a great route
VA has actually been really good down here in Texas. Most of the shit you hear is from what it was like a couple of decades ago.
I'm 30 years old and I've never worked a day in my life.
>people without souls can't understand soul crushing
NEETposting should be a bannable offense
/LULZ/ is a containment board after all
> t. Boomer parasite
You've been crying about boomers for 3 years
this
>hmm what is the perfect website for a soulless normgroid wagecuck like myself? oh I know Cinemaphile
Ebin /LULZ/ maymay, sister
>Sold CHUCK at $100
I'll never be rich.
there is no reward that could ever justify working 8hours+ for 5+ days a week.
that's your entire life.
inb4
>hobbies! I go to the climbing gym 2 times a week
>I am le Cinemaphile software engineer and only work 2 mins a day from home
This. We need a 4 day work week
>wall of text
>edit of some litetally who webcomic
NEETs can't meme
This is you.
>different flavor of goslingposting
Neets can't meme
You're trying and failing to use a meme yourself.
i work 40 hours a week but i like my job so im not bothered by that very much
32 hours a week is an option in plenty of IT companies. i was asked during a job interview if i wanted to do the full 40 or less.
that's not better and you're a soulless NPC automaton.
you glue various bullshit ugly bloated frameworks together to make worthless shit no one needs. only a truly nasty creature could find enjoyment from that.
>intelleczual challenges
those are found in math books. no jobs pay for this. it's a trick they tell people to get more codeshitters. professional codeshitting has nothing to do with this.
the challenge is in gluing them together in a maintainable and readable manner, which involves psychology. i like it
even MIT doesn't use SICP anymore since modern software is all about subhuman drones like yourself shitting out bloat. has nothing to do with understanding or elegance or intellectual challenges fricking kek. what an absolute homosexual you are.
the only people who care about LISP are NEETscholars. you are subhuman.
are you a pajeet?
stuff like spring boot, lombok, kotlin, openapi, absolutely reduces the code you have to write and maintain
century gothic is the goat
My goal is to work 80%. Just sitting at home playing video games or watching movies all day isn't that fun anymore. I get restless and I almost start to look forward to going to university lectures, the gym, or even the grocery store. I really don't know what happened to me.
Why didn't he just get a new job? No one's forcing him to stay.
NOOOO I HAD TO WORK 4 YEARS TO SAVE UP FOR THIS $30,000 HOUSE. IT'S LITERAL SLAVERY!!!
>Misses the entire point of Fight Club
Standard zoomie brain
I just want a nice four walled cubicle to work in so I can have a cheeky lunchtime fap in peace.
>he spends 70 percent of his life making money, and not sitting at home playing games/watching movies.
You gotta keep working in the cuck cubicle so Mr Shekelberg gets richer while you live in a bug pod
Ebin /LULZ/ maymay, sister
I don't browse that board homosexual
Because it's a bullshit job which gives you zero fulfilment
You just do some stupid monotonous task to keep you distracted while you pretend you do something important
and you get paid $90k for doing it, I don't see the problem
The reason is that zoomers cant get this Jobs because pajeets and women take them from them, and the ones that do get the job are ridiculously over qualified and get less pay than their boomer counterpart, on top of not being able to afford a house and having the least sex and the wost women
Boomers and early milenians should unironically stop being homosexuals and accept how good they had it
Because working in an office fricking sucked in all of all history, duh?
Consider it paid fairly well back then, nowadays you sit 8 hours inside a cubicle for pocket change and to be replaced by a chatbot within the span of five years.
because it was a pretty bad way to live. you zooms don't understand how incredibly dull life could get at points.
>My office job is requiring me to login on sunday at 7AM twice a month
>Everyone is acting like Im crazy for not liking this because you get paid whopping extra 40 (forty) euros
?????
This is my first job since graduating and Im shocked how fricking into it everyone is. My boss fricking logs in on weekends to send us emails and my colleagues log in after going home. When I part timed at the factory my job was at least over on the dot. 8 hours were up, shift's over everyone goes home and cant turn their brains off
dont have an office or tech job then. I work graveyard shift but I dont have to do shit once I go home
That's what you get for going to college. There are no off days and there is no free time. You work 24/7.
Wish I had become a plumber instead.
I’m astounded at the people who defend moder work culture. I have to inagine they are right wingers who believe that anyone who insists work could be managed better in society is some gay/trans communist, and so they feel the need to defend working 40 hours at all cost.
>posted from an iphone
On average we work less than any other period in history and are unlikely to die or become crippled while in the workplace too. From a historical standpoint, it's basically the best things have ever been for the plebs.
>From a historical standpoint, it's basically the best things have ever been for the plebs.
Why is depression rising then? Just because it might seem like things are good if humans aren’t getting happier what exactly is going on? By your reasoning people should be ecstatic about life, but they aren’t. Is your opinion that people are delusional? They just can’t see that they should be happy?
>. Is your opinion that people are delusional?
My opinion is that work-life balance is the best that it's ever been for the plebians, and we're becoming more miserable for a number of other reasons.
Work is the number one reason. It’s where people spend the majority of their waking hours. It’s unbelievable to think that the quality of life people experience while at work should be overlooked and instead it has to do with tinder
Unironically social engineering, just watch american cable for an hour and count how many medication commercials you run into
>Why is depression rising then
Destruction of religion and family unit
>Destruction of religion and family unit
Except the happiest countries are irreligious like Finland. And they are far more concerned about creating happy lives while at work for adults and at school for kids. It’s why they banned homework. To give kids more time to enjoy their time.
>posted from an iphone
>the happiest countries are irreligious like Finland
That's bullshit it's actually countries like Indonesia
Depends on how they are looking at happiness I guess. The tools to measure it.
That's all propaganda.
t. Finn
>irreligious
>Finland
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Spiritual happiness is imo different from physical happiness. You don’t become Christian to become happy you do it to save your soul.
As opposed to the left wingers who think we need to only listen more to what the Experts say and what the government commands.
Why does the organization with a monopoly on force run Social Security?
Because most commies don't want actual solutions, they just want free shit while they do something stupid like streaming
And yet people are more depressed than ever, women are awful, marriage and family is dead and birth rates are lowest in history
>And yet people are more depressed than ever, women are awful, marriage and family is dead and birth rates are lowest in history
Would slaving away on an substinence farm for 80 hours a week change any of things?
No, keeping women out of the work force would
But that's not gonna happen because we need more profits
>Would slaving away on an substinence farm for 80 hours a week change any of things?
According to philosophers like David Serbian, yes
Any chance you're gonna turn off your PC and actually go do that?
It would have to be at the societal level. It’s no coincidence that things like autism and eroticism are increasing as we keep making society more advanced.
Meant to say neuroticism
>eroticism is a new thing
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Never study medieval literature, anon, and realize all your beliefs are merely carryovers from first the Puritans and then the Victorian era.
Even dumber then. The ability to detect something instead of blaming it on demons does not correlate with an increase of ailments.
bruh, autism is increasing because the exclusion criteria for diagnosing it was basically removed.
why do you try to talk on what things were like in the past when you haven't read even a single relevant book on the topic in your entire life?
more wageslave cope?
The idea that medieval serfs just worked in their fields a few hours a week and spent the rest of the time at the tavern and taking part in religious/cultural festivals is pure tradhomosexual cope and not rooted in reality. Every facet of life may not be better today, but on average you're definitely spending less time toiling away then you would be 1000 years ago.
it's irrelevant and you don't know anything about the topic.
It's irrelevant because you're a loser who's not working full-time anyway.
>but we have all these ~technogadgets~ we are so better off
meanwhile today everything is dysfunctional and we are replaced by foreigners...
Who are you quoting
why are zoomers so conformist?
So what benefits do common people actually have from companies reaching record profits?
Why should you work for someone who gets billions while you can barely pay rent?
A guy like that had no escapes. Almost as bad as way too many escapes like it is now.
Why is it that right wingers argue in such disingenuous ways when talking about capitalism? The right winger will praise capitalism as if it is amazing and it makes life wonderful. Someone will then complain about capitalism and the right winger will retreat from his initial position about capitalism being amazing to instead defending the position that capitalism is just the best of all the alternatives. And that while life might not be very enjoyable, it is at least less bad than in the past. Like ok, but why be so dishonest about it. If you really just love being a wage slave and having to spend the majority of your life working instead of enjoying life that’s cool. But just be upfront about instead of arguing so disingenuously.
Besides most people who criticize capitalism and call themselves socialists are actually not socialists. They just don’t understand what socialism is. They usually just want work to be made more tolerable for workers. More security from employers and supervisors harassing employees. More job flexibility as in mandatory work from home for jobs that support it. Less working hours. More vacation time. That’s cool if you oppose it, but most people would like to enjoy life. We basically live in a sci fi reality with how advanced technology has come but still people believe that we lack the ability to make work where people spend the majority of their waking hours a decent experience and not something that is dreaded.
>posted from an iphone
Dude the far right is anti capitalist
The only people who defend modern work place culture are trannies and dems
>the far right is anti capitalist
i love how they've got you spewing utter gibberish just because they put rainbows on their logos
I didn’t say far right. Maybe I should have specified the boomer right but it’s still the right wing.
capitalism is a broad term that just means the free market. being against capitalism is wanting state ownership aka the government owning everything. why is this so hard for people?
because capitalistic entities started putting rainbows on their logos.
then dont buy from the companies that do that. but in less you want to go live in the middle of nowhere because you hate gay people that much, I cant help you
Nice bot-response. the point is the largest most powerful corporations (read: citizens of the united states) have completely inverted the political landscape into a clownfight over non-issues, to prevent another occupy.
>le capitalism is when brown pipo get offended
Why is it that left wingers argue in such disingenuous ways when talking about capitalism?
wtf is this AI/filter that gives him brown eyes and dilapitated wiener eye? is it to make it more relatable to the average zoomer?
Kill the salesman, he only live to steal.
Jobs aren't fun. They were never meant to be. The less fun a job is, the less people will want to do it, the higher value it will be to do it.
The joke here is that, of all the work available, like
>soul crushing warehouse/factory labor work
>soul crushing retail/food service
>soul crushing construction or trades
>soul crushing medical work
Your typical paint by numbers office job is hardly anything to dread. It's whiny to assume so. Yes you can resent being tied to a place for 40 hours a week but no you can't go and get melodramatic about what is near the top in terms of comfort. A lot of corporate/white collar work is borderline welfare at this point with how useless it is for the effort and pay.
>Your typical paint by numbers office job is hardly anything to dread.
And yet it is dreaded by almost everyone. You can say how mild it is all you want but the reality is that the typical work life I’m for an office wagie is terrible. Literally a humiliation ritual.
It's not a humiliation ritual. The structure of society relies on the working class. If you destabilize the working class, the bourgeois gets more powerful, and society swiftly collapses. If there are few workers, and majority hedonistic do-nothings: there will be less people to do the things required to maintain all the fragile structures holding up that well-utilized apartment or home you pay for. Your greed is reliant solely on the selfless people who work to give you a better life. I used to think like you and then I quickly realized what a fricking mess we'd all be in without good, hard workers. Stop shifting the blame on the government and take accountability. There are infinitely more people in the working class, world-wide, than in government offices. The government doesn't provide your electricity, water, food, and plumbing. Hard workers do. All the government does is pay the people who do those services to maintain the structure of society.
That’s a whole lot of words to just say
>let’s just do nothing
Like here’s one proposal, why not make it illegal to verbally harass employers like they do at big law firms. There are firms called screamers where they regularly scream at you. Why tolerate that? This is just one step. Most people spend most of their life at work but whenever people talk about trying to make that time better you get pushback like this. Another proposal, any job that is capable of being email for home, legally is required to be world from home. Employers cannot force somoene like a software developer who worked from home during covid to come back into the office. Plenty of these things are perfectly reasonably but you get these boomer posts defending the current state of affairs like their lives depended on it.
Because they haven't experienced the truly shit work. I have. It's all about perspective. No I don't like having to do this. Yes it's way preferable to most everything else. Go try a labor job sometime. You will come crying and running back to your office and computer.
Something g being preferable to something else doesn’t make it good. It’s just like how just because lower levels of bell exists it doesn’t make the top layers of hell pleasant to exist in
You homosexuals think you're being profound when you're really just dullards. There are so many different ways to manage life. You wouldn't be contributing in any meaningful way otherwise, go to your desk job and do your robot work, robot.
how often do you need to remind yourself that you're "meaningful"
You can’t even argue your point. The same point. Keeps getting argued by those defending the current state of affairs and it’s a fallacy. That there are worse options does not make the current one pleasant. It would be like telling a chattel slave that his position in life is good because at least he’s not being sent to aushwitz
>That there are worse options does not make the current one pleasant
Not him but that is not the point. The point is I cannot relate to this movie character.
>I cannot relate to this movie character.
so you have a weak theory of mind
And you have a weak everything irl you little pussy.
The point is self evident. Office work is easy. You sound like a whiner. It isn't about office work at all, but work in general. You're lazy and want to laze about. That's all there is to it. Nothing deep, profound, yes jobs aren't usually joyful, they are still necessary. If you're a clever person you can find a way to shorten your career and get into novel work that engages you. If not, enjoy the wagie mill.The end
More tactical nihilism.
>stop talking about problems just accept how things are
More dunning kruger arrogance
>whining about things on twitter and Cinemaphile is going to have any effect on macroeconomic machinations
You are getting poorer. Less valuable. They dump more 3rd worlders into your country by the year. How does that feel? The same 90's/2000's economic context we're splitting hairs over doesn't even exist anymore. Your whining isn't doing anything, your economy continues to crumble as you do.
what's the solution then?
Start using your money, youth, knowledge, and living actions to put some effort into fixing your society. You can't all sit around and wait for things to fix themselves. Think of a sensible solution for small problems locally (or wherever you choose), and either do it yourself or campaign for it.
Who said I’m expecting a thread on Cinemaphile is going to change policy? It’s literally a thread to discuss things for fun.
You're a pussy. Go work fast food if you think it will be better. Do construction.
Seriously, work concrete in the summer when the only times it's cold enough to pour is at 8pm to 8am and you're on your feet for 12 hours straight in the middle of the night laying a highway 6 days a week. A desk job seems like a dream when you do that for a while.
You guys keep repeating this tired fallacy. Something bei be better than something else doesn’t make the original thing good. You can imagine the layers of bell as an example.
Sorry I just don't want to listen to you b***h from what seems like an ivory tower from where I'm standing. Can you try to keep it together?
If it’s so nice and easy to work an office job why don’t you do it? I love how the so called laborers talk a big talk about how great it would be to work in an office and how easy it is. So why not take that sort of job? Is it to hard or something?
>If it’s so nice and easy to work an office job why don’t you do it?
Because I can't? They aren't hiring people like me. Idiot.
Why don’t you become one? It’s not like people are just born office wagies. People go to college and even graduate school to become one. But maybe that process is hard after all.
I'm in school right now as a 33 year old. Shit sucks but the alternative sucks worse so I'm going to do whatever it takes to make it through.
>The less fun a job is, the less people will want to do it, the higher value it will be to do it
then why is cleaning toilets for a living not the highest value job? youre ,making zero sense
Because there is 0 skill barrier to entry. Part of the ardor of a job is the training. High training + high unpopularity = mega paid.
Low training + high unpopularity, still paid more than low training + high popularity, which are basically done for free (think starving artist).
>OH MY HECKIN GOSH IS THAT A CUSHY AIR CONDITIONED DESK JOB WITH A SIX FIGURE SALARY?
>AAAAAARRRRRRRGH I'M GOING INSAAAAAANEEEEEEE
That meme is also blaming the wrong generation. It wasn't Gen X that's just being pushed now. Boomers were a huge fricking generation population wise that didn't retire until the last past ten years, because they wasted all their money on frivolous bullshit like cruises and collectable plates, so they sat at top positions on jobs when they didn't need college degrees to get those jobs. They now collect more in social security then they ever paid into, and b***h they still don't have enough money. Gen X was required to pump out money on degrees too just like millennials, but Gen X was also a relatively small population unlike millennials. I'm guessing Gen Z is around just as small when considering not many kids were born past 2008, because of the recession.
I would like to work less and make more money. I would also accept working less for the same amount of money. Anyone I can talk to in order for this to become a reality?
Yeah, your boss. Go part-time
That means I get less money. And if I look for a different job then I'd need to do the process all over again. I any some kind of mandated change that everyone complies to. Is there anyone trying to make that happen?
Bernie Sanders wants Part-Time to be the new standard, if that's what you're asking
Everybody has to work to live this life. Some way or another
What’s the alternative? What do you want to do with your time? You’re just complaining about the world you were born into.
Look at how most people spend their retirement: rotting in front of a tv. Gotta love midwits acting like they're useful for anything other than the wagie mill. There are actually are a lot of crazy, niche opportunities out there, by definition the boring of mind aren't ever going to find or notice, just lazily whine about their obligations.
Name 2 opportunities.
Hookin
Hoen.
Basically if you don't have a stomach full of cum by the time the sun sets you just didn't want it bad enough and girls like me, we go out and get it.
Dirty Jobs Seasons 1-20
I wasn't talking about myself. I'm involved in a lot of things and am on track for an early retirement, where I will be buying my own business. I was talking about your moronic ass acting like there is no alternative or escape from office work. Don't say dumb things if you don't want to get categorized as dumb.
>blue collar work is less soul-crushing than office work
Ok so just say it
>IF YOU MAKE ME DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN PLAY VIDEO GAMES AND BROWSE Cinemaphile I'M LITERALLY GONNA HECKIN FREAK
I work in a pharmaceutical lab.
>i have accepted life will be shit
i have condensed all your posts to one sentence
>the alternative to working a shitty job is just... not working! doing nothing! exclusively!
i like how they've ground you down to a point where you can't even imagine a better life.
How about the government makes work life better? Not allowing employers to verbally abuse employees. Work from home is required if the position is capable of being wfm. 4 day work week.
Fight club is absolutely insufferable to watch for anyone who is a millenial or younger. Literally affluenza: the movie. Gen X are nearly as bad as boomers
>I CAN'T FIND HOBBIES WAAAAAAAAAH
Skill issue on Gen Xers part. Work is work and is nothing but a means to an end to enable you to do things you actually like.
Please give me a realistic Wednesday for how people should spend their time. Where are these hobbies in a typical workday. Go and give me an entires day schedule of what it looks like. Hard mode, you need to fit in 10 full hours reserved for sleep.
office work makes you behave in a oversocialized feminine manner, only women like office work
t.currently doing an internship
Working is based if it's something you have a passion for. I personally love my job - AI and nanotech research. I get to work towards scifi concepts every day and have a good amount of free reign to do as I please with both government and private donor grants. For the moment it's focused on medical applications, but my ultimate dream is advancing AI to the point that it supplants humanity. The only thing I'd rather be doing than this would be working on the manhattan project back in the day.
>People once again don't understand the point Fight Club
The narrator / Tyler is suffering from extreme insomnia and becomes disillusioned with his work not because he's working in an office but because he's covering up what should amount to manslaughter charges for a larger corporation that doesn't care about him in an economic system that only tries to control him.
Its not literally the office environment that drives him insane , it's used as a symbol.
>tfw wfh
>get paid $160k/year to code for 2 hours a day and attend a couple meetings
I'm 36 and never worked a day in my life, my parents left me a lot of properties which I merely collect rent from every month. I live a pretty Spartan life, only have a few kitchen appliances, washing machine, a mattress a this small desk which I'm currently using. No chair, I sit on the floor and my PC is fairly old.
People like you who b***h about having a 90k salary doing menial tasks on computers need to get hobbies outside of work if it's really that unfulfilling for you.
Plan me an average Wednesday. I must be unreasonable since everyone has been saying to just get a hobby. See the criteria for the plan here
Eat at work. I've never had an issue doing this. Prepare your meals on the weekend, preferably Sunday night. Take them to work, eat dinner at work. Buy your own exercise equipment. Buy a rowing machine, do 25 minutes every day and some stretches. You'll be more than fit. Let's say you get home at 7PM - if you've already eaten dinner, you have an hour to exercise and shower, and about another 4 hours to pursue whatever hobby you want. You just need to be better at planning. I'm sorry but sometimes it really is that simple.
What time do you sleep? What time is wake up?
I go to sleep at 12am, sleep for 8.5 hours, shower for 7 minutes and eat a light breakfast or just eat it at work half the time. I get to work at 9am. I am lucky because my job is 10 minutes from me, but let's say your commute is 30 minutes. You still have 3 hours of free time before sleep in my case. And none of this is mentioning all the free time you have on weekends.
its also the bit where they're exhausted by doing nothing.
This. You can get a hobby, learn a new skill, start a family or find your love, try new things.
>Be grateful for the two hours you have when you get home
There really is no other way. You can either post about it on Cinemaphile where no one can help you, you could try to approach your boss about it and risk getting fired, or you could try to look for a better job with the benefits you want. None of these is ideal.
>there just is no other way. We just have to accept working six days a week
You mean 5. So what do you want to do? Organize your workers and demand less work? EXTREMELY RISKY and dangerous, moreso than just sharing concerns with a boss. Try to somehow push for a nationwide 4 day work week? Good luck if you're in the US where businesses are more human than human.
The best option is typically to look for another, better job.
I’m interested in those saying that work isn’t a big deal to plan out an average workday. I want them to design me a an average Wednesday to show me how actually I have a lot of time for hobbies outside of work. Criteria would be having to include not just an 9hour workday but prep and community time to add into that 9hours. Time to prepare dinner unless I’m expecting to just get takeout. One hour of exercise unless exercise is considered a luciry and not required for general health. And ten hours reserved for sleep since we can’t assume that just because it’s a workday that it’s a luxury to have the sleep required for optimal health.
Sleeping over 9 hours is not healthy. 7 minimum, 8 is optimal, 9 is a little much. Depends from person to person but considering how lacking in time we are you should aim for lower while keeping healthy.
Stop listening to huberman. That advice is so nonsensical.
Who?
What exactly is your alternative? Be a bum on the street after trying to get lucky in a creative gig or being a youtuber and earning no money with 4 viewers?
False dichotomy. Just make work more tolerable /pleasant. Force companies who can to make their positions work form home for one
The 40 hour work week was negotiated early in the 20th century. It used to be much, much worse before this. You have it easy compared to your forebears and if somehow businesses grated you a 4 day work week you'd still consider that hell because fundamentally working is slavery and its meant to be hell. No office job would be satisfactory for you. You desire to be paid for doing nothing. I know because I am you.
>It used to be so much worse. Be thankful for what you have, GOY.
Wfh would be fine
I already have WFH. It isn't enough. You will always desire more. That's human nature.
Doubt. I used to be happy. Have become less happy.
If they take things away from you you will become even less happy. Unless you mean WFH has made you less happy in which case thats weird.
You can make work more tolerable/pleasant by simply finding a way to make money being self employed, millions of people do it. If you dont have the drive or motivation to do that then how is it the company's problem to accomodate you rather than you accomodate to them? There ARE alternatives to working for them, and a lot of them are more lucrative. People take jobs so they dont have to think of all that comes with it, including responsability, and it comes at the cost of that
Being self-employed would not solve his problem. Small business owners have to work a lot more than 40 hours a week and until they "make it" have to live in constant worry of their business suddenly going under and owing tons in debt. Not to mention this is the worst economic state for small business owners in over 40 years
Yes, either have the stress and responsability for failure or adapt to someone who is taking on that risk, but accept their conditions. If you were starting a company and had all the risk of going under and an employee just waddles over and tells you he wants to be as comfortable as possible (more confortable than you who you say as a business owner have to work more than average and have extreme risk) while having zero risk and wants to get paid well, youd be wondering who the frick is this guy.
Life has never been more comfortable than it is today either as a wageslave or self employed, yes it coudl be better, but it can also be much worse and if you are in the first world you already hit the lottery.
Self employment is becoming far more uncommon. Most people who do that open up restaurants.